Decorating - we've been quoted £13,750 - please tell me they're taking the Michael?

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KindleMum Tue 02-Apr-13 22:24:53

We complete new week on our new house and are getting quotes for work at the moment. The first complete quote has been rather a shock and includes £13,750 for decorating - that's just papering and painting, not plastering. Please tell me they're trying to take me for a ride because if all the quotes are in that league I'll have to learn to wallpaper and do it myself.
It does have 3 receps and 5 bedrooms but they are not enormous rooms. And I'd be providing any patterned paper and top colour paint on top of that. They're only including undercoat or lining paper in that figure.

silverfrog Tue 02-Apr-13 22:30:03

we paid upwards of £5,000 last year just for re-painting a similar sized house. nothing fancy, just plain magnolia throughout, and white wood/ceilings.

so I can't see that your quote is so very outlandish for papering too, as can be time consuming.

KindleMum Tue 02-Apr-13 22:34:17

Ah bother! That's not what I hoped to hear. We're only papering because they advised it would be cheaper than making the walls perfect to paint straight onto. Though the walls look ok to me.

I'd better start learning to decorate then. We're in the north for goodness sake, it's supposed to be cheaper here!

fieldfare Tue 02-Apr-13 22:35:32

That's absolutely ridiculous. I've renovated houses in the past and it averaged out about £500 per room - glossing woodwork etc, painting ceiling and coving, lining walls and painting. He provided all base materials and I provided wallpaper and coloured paint.

KindleMum Tue 02-Apr-13 22:38:37

fieldfare - you've given me hope again! Thank you - hopefully the later quotes will be lower.

gallicgirl Tue 02-Apr-13 22:39:50

We paid £300 last year to have an average sized bedroom replastered so think that price is taking the p.
In fact, think my mom had a small extension done for similar price.

mercibucket Tue 02-Apr-13 22:43:14

lolol

did they mis print it???

what daily rate do you think is ok, plus materials, then times it by the number of days it will take

TheDetective Tue 02-Apr-13 22:46:16

There is an extra digit in there surely. I'd laugh in their faces, and ask if they thought I was a stupid cunt.

Then go elsewhere!

At 2 days per room, £100 a day, I would expect about £2000, no more than £3000, and I'm being generous.

FWIW, a newbuild is fairly easy to decorate yourself. I've done it a couple of times. And I'm a total novice. And they looked good. No one has ever noticed. And are always shocked when I say it is all my own handiwork!

KindleMum Tue 02-Apr-13 23:02:53

I do think they are trying it on with the whole quote. They have broken down into minute detail all the cheap bits and all the big figures are not broken down at all so you can't see what you're paying for say the new boiler, tank and radiators and how much is for the plumbers time. They were highly recommended to me but I think they've either slipped or thought let's rip off the southern female, they don't know any better.

In case none of the quotes are sensible - it has also occurred to me that due to the recession, I have some friends who are good decorators, can't afford a holiday this year and could well be interested in taking paid holiday from their jobs and using the time to get paid to decorate my house. One friend is having a very rough time financially and her decorating has always looked great to me. I might well ask her as I know she decorated a mutual friend's previously, presumably for cash.

AuntLucyInPeru Tue 02-Apr-13 23:14:16

You're being fleeced. Get more quotes And I speak as a letting agent with several hundred properties under management. What part of the country are you in?

FiveGoMadInDorset Tue 02-Apr-13 23:15:04

Where are you?

silverfrog Tue 02-Apr-13 23:16:20

our quote, though it seems outrageous, was for 3 men, working 12 hour days (and often into the night as well - the house was completely empty at the time) for 8 days, and included all materials.

some rooms required 3 coats of paint, let alone the undercoat etc (yes, the 70s monstrosity that it was, the rooms were all turquoise and orange, or conversely really dark forest green etc).

so though it seemed high, it worked out not too unreasonable - just over £200/day for a rush job (albeit an easy one since no furniture to worry about shifting around), but it really did include all woodwork and doors, fitted cupboards (inside and out) as well as skirting, dado rails and window frames.

even taking all that into consideration, I seriously contemplated asking a friend to do it with me - it's stupid money to be paying 'just' for putting some paint on the walls (inverted commas as they did do a very professional job to be fair). it was only the heatwave (ah, seems but a distant memory!) and me being 8 months pregnant that stopped me...

we are in the highest postcode-pricing area though (poshville, Surrey)

formicaqueen Tue 02-Apr-13 23:25:22

How many days work is it in total? How much is usually paid per day in your area?

15000 is a joke

formicaqueen Tue 02-Apr-13 23:27:11

I'd expect two or three days per room at about 120 pounds per long day. Based on one person doing the work.

Good god. No. There must be a mistake my excellent decorator takes £10 an hour

GinAndSlimlinePlease Wed 03-Apr-13 08:16:04

If just redecorating, you're being taken for a ride!

But you mention new boiler too? If they're redoing the heating system that will be expensive!

Badvoc Wed 03-Apr-13 08:18:07

That ridiculous!

SizzleSazz Wed 03-Apr-13 08:21:45

We paid c.£100 per day but that was about 5 years ago. £13k is mad!

libertyflip Wed 03-Apr-13 08:22:37

My house is a lot smaller - 2 bed terrace but I paid £400 last year for the whole house including paint.

SizzleSazz Wed 03-Apr-13 08:22:41

If you don't mind posting a general location, someone may well be able to help with a recommendation.

marriedinwhiteagain Wed 03-Apr-13 08:24:07

We live SW London - our decorator/handyman is £120 a day and works like stink. He is presently about to start repainting the house and we expect the job, with materials to come to about £6000 to £7000 - no wallpapering. But there are a lot of stairs/bannisters/intricate stair railings and very high ceilings - we estimate the hall and landings will take three to four weeks and the rooms another five to six. Lots of rubbings down, etc. All being done very simply to get ready to sell.

CadleCrap Wed 03-Apr-13 08:28:07

DH told me that if they don't want to job (too much work on or too many potential problems) that builders/decorators will quote a stuipd amount.

reastie Wed 03-Apr-13 08:39:21

gregs for £10 an hour does that include any materials/providing own equipment? How long does he take to do a whole room? Sorry for hijack, it's just we are going to pay FIL to redecorate for us soon (he isn't a decorator, he's retired and in want of a bit of extra money). We don't want to take the mickey by paying him next to nothing but equally we can't afford a proper painter/decorator and money is tight for us, and FIL is such a slow worker I'm at pains to pay him by the hour as he will take alot longer than if we got an actual decorator in to do the work so could easily end out paying more than if we got a decorator in!

KindleMum Wed 03-Apr-13 08:51:15

GinandSlimline - that amount is indeed just for papering and painting. I am getting lots of other work done but that is all separate in the quote. It doesn't even include the making good and replastering after the earlier works, that's quoted for on top.

CadleCrap - that had occurred to me, but in that case they've wasted a foolish amount of time in quoting for this and in bringing out plumbers and electricians to quote for the other bits. There are quicker ways to turn down work!

We are in West Yorkshire and I am hoping that this particular quote is an opportunistic attempt to rip off a southerner, as we've not been up here long and they know it.

They advised a particular product for one part of the work and due to a miscommunication, I got a quote from the local supplier myself to supply and install it. The builder then said they would sort it out direct as they'd get a better price as trade - but their quote is charging me 25% more for this item than if I bought it retail and had it installed by the supplier. I think that tells me all I need to know about them really.

The work plan indicates they're allowing two and a half weeks to decorate. It doesn't say how many people. The house will be empty of furniture etc as we are not moving in until all the work is done. The rooms themselves are simple - rectangular, no alcoves or fancy cornices/ceiling roses/plasterwork. Ceilings are relatively low (it was built in the 1960s) and there is one short staircase with no banisters or balustrades. Doors should not need painting as they're all being replaced so we'll buy the ones that come painted white already.

We are getting other quotes, it's just a bit of a heart-attack moment that this is the first complete quote to come back and it's been so high.

Eskino Wed 03-Apr-13 08:57:12

Ill do it for £10k wink

Sounds like a nice thing to do to ask your skint friends if they want the job though. I'd rather see my friends getting a holiday out of it.

Suttyshotty Wed 03-Apr-13 09:03:48

They are taking the pee surely, that's is an annual salary in some jobs! Wallpapering is dead easy, tell them thanks....er but no thanks! shock

KindleMum Wed 03-Apr-13 09:21:09

Eskino - I'd never use unqualified people to do electrics or gas etc but for decorating then yes I think it could work out very well for both sides. I have friends who don't really want to take their annual leave as they can't go anywhere due to no money and they're afraid they'll still spend too much just by having the free time. So if I can't get a sensible and affordable quote, I think I will ask a friend.

Hi. He uses his own equipment but I provide paint etc.

Last job he took 2.5 days to do one room however, it was for DS and the colours used are red, blue, yellow and green - think Lego colours. He therefore had to do 3 coats each. If it were painting neutral on neutral I would imagine it would be quicker.

Potterer Wed 03-Apr-13 10:16:35

I'm in Leeds West Yorkshire and that quote is ridiculous!

If I remember correctly, when I had my double garage converted into a playroom 2 1/2 years ago I painted it myself but the builder said his decorator would do it for £450.

That would be probably 2 mist coats as it was newly plastered and 2 coats of paint. The room is 5.4m long x 3.6m wide. It would have included the ceiling and the coving.

Personally I would have the rooms replastered whilst the house is empty as wallpapering poor walls will look awful. I assume they are getting round the wall quality by putting lining paper on.

I prefer painting as if you change your mind about a colour a year later, you just repaint, no faffing with wallpaper stripping. Plus I have two boys who have knocked into wallpapered walls before and ripped it.

My lounge is 4.5m square and I was told it would cost me about £350 to have it replastered, it is currently wallpapered but has been painted over in the past. So when we come to decorate the lounge, then we will be having it plastered.

Rikalaily Wed 03-Apr-13 10:41:19

Wow, dp & I must have saved a bomb over the years decorating our own place. He's a plasterer and has skimmed almost the whole house, I paper and we both share the painting. He's also re-tiled the loo and put a breakfast bar in the kitchen. He'd never done either before but gave it a go and did a fab job with both so even if something is new to you, give it a try!

It might be cheaper and easier in the long run getting the walls that need it skimmed instead of papering, once it's skimmed the upkeep is easy and will save you alot of decorating money and time in the future.

I used to have to paper my whole house as the walls were a bit crap, when dp moved in one of the first things his did was strip and skim everywhere and now decorating is a doddle, a few hours and a couple of tubs of paint vs days of stripping and re-papering. In fact I'm going to be redoing the landing today while he's at work, will take me about 2 hours I think. If I'd had to paper it would take the whole day by myself.

flowery Wed 03-Apr-13 10:45:20

"their quote is charging me 25% more for this item than if I bought it retail and had it installed by the supplier."

That's your cue to walk away right there.

KindleMum Wed 03-Apr-13 10:45:57

Ok, taking the comments on board and will get a quote for total replastering/skimming. Any ideas what that "ought" to cost per room?

lightrain Wed 03-Apr-13 10:46:13

OP - my DH is a painter and decorator and we are in west yorks. PM me if you would like (his quote would certaily not be £13k!!!!).

lightrain Wed 03-Apr-13 10:47:09

*certainly

ENormaSnob Wed 03-Apr-13 10:54:47

That is an obscene amount shock

flow4 Wed 03-Apr-13 11:18:50

I'm in West Yorkshire too, and agree it's a totally ridiculous amount! I had an insurance claim in 2010 (after a bath leak) and they paid out £2k to replaster, repaper and repaint a 4x5m room, hallway and stairs. I was surprised because I knew it would actually cost well under £1k using local trades people. But apparently insurance companies use set prices/formulae. Maybe this company does mostly insurance work, so quotes high...?

KindleMum Wed 03-Apr-13 17:10:11

Ok, the builder phoned this morning to see what I thought of his quote and I'm still deciding whether to feel entertained or insulted by his explanations.

I said that we were waiting to compare it with other quotes but we felt it was much too high and a couple of things eg the decorating were just ridiculous. He said that they'd allowed headroom in the decorating price for problems etc and it was easily reduced. Isn't that just builder-speak for either " I thought I could get away with it as you're stupid" or, worse "I'll reduce it now to secure the work and then I'll find the aforementioned problems at a later date and put it back up"?

Anyway, it was a quote, not an estimate so if I'd paid I wouldn't have got this "padding" refunded, they do think I'm stupid, don't they?

Even better, I explained my confusion over the item where they're claiming to be buying for me so that I benefit from their trade discount and yet the cost to me is more than buying it retail and having it installed by the manufacturer's approved supplier. The explanation for that was that he has to charge me the gross price he pays and then add his VAT on top. The funny bit there is that he knows I'm a chartered accountant - wouldn't you assume I have a working knowledge of VAT and not try to lie about it. I know full well he gets to reclaim the VAT he's paid to his supplier. Yes, he has to charge me VAT but not VAT on VAT thank you very much! And there's still no trade discount in any part of that calculation, in fact his "trade" price from the supplier is dearer than my retail one for the identical item.

And I queried to confirm that "fit" means I'd be supplying the item and "supply and fit" means they've included buying the item in their price. Obvious but I had reason to be suspicious from the quote. Answer - it depends! They "might" have put "fit" in some places and meant "supply and fit". They will check and make it clearer. Really. Riiiiiight.

Why do they think I have the IQ of Homer Simpson? What did I do to make them think that?

DaisyBD Wed 03-Apr-13 17:54:52

Why do they think I have the IQ of Homer Simpson? What did I do to make them think that?

Failed to have a y chromosome, probably.

KindleMum Wed 03-Apr-13 18:18:36

Oh Daisy, it's so depressing that it's still like that. It really is. I'm not 100% sure whether me being female or DH sounding posh is the bigger problem - wrt to leading them to think that we're idiots.

Thing is, as I'm SAHM for another year or so, it will be me that is mainly dealing with builders, not DH. So I'm going to have months of being treated as a idiot ahead of me. Lovely.

flow4 Wed 03-Apr-13 19:03:00

They probably think you're idiots it's worth a punt, because...
You're female.
Your husband is 'letting' his wife negotiate with builders.
You're from 'down south'.
At least one of you 'talks posh'.
You have a very big house.
You are at home with children and don't have a visible job (when you say he 'knows' you're a chartered accountant, you actually mean you've told him, don't know? He doesn't necessarily believe you! grin )
... They were definitely trying it on. And yes, you're right it's depressing. sad

flow4 Wed 03-Apr-13 19:05:00

But no, you don't have "months of being treated as a idiot ahead" of you. You've simply ruled out this company, and you need to find the right trades-people who don't think like this. smile

pollypandemonium Wed 03-Apr-13 19:19:18

I guess it does depend on the existing condition and the standard required. You could say it would take a day to paint one room with two layers, but then there is preparation which could take longer. You want to be paying around £120 per day and if that's 4 days per room (generous) you're looking at £500 per room. Multiply that by 8 (5 beds 3 receps) and you have £4K add the stairs and any fiddly bits and you're looking at 5K just for the walls.

Woodwork if it includes doors and any 'making good' could take the same amount of labour again. But £10k would be absolute maximum although if they are including VAT it would come to £12K.

As I said it would depend on the condition of the surfaces and the quality you require.

Apparentlychilled Wed 03-Apr-13 19:21:50

I'm in West Yorkshire too and paid about £500 for a room 4m x3m to be painted last year. Pm me I you'd like the details. Sounds like bonkers money to me.

ImTooHecsyForYourParty Wed 03-Apr-13 19:25:55

Good grief. Do not use him. He is a con man.

I am VERY pleased that we do it ourselves. I can't believe how much people are saying it costs to have your home decorated. I had assumed a couple of hundred quid, max.

silverfrog Wed 03-Apr-13 19:35:21

it does all depend on what you're getting for the money though, Hec.

eg last year when we spent just over £5k redecorating our house (5 beds, 3 bathrooms, 4 reception rooms - all rooms bigger than 4mx5m) we had a minimum of 3 people in virtually 24/7 (house was empty as before we moved in) for 8 days. call it 18 hour working days (they were deffo there at midnight, and would be arriving as dh went to work at 6am - moving across the road has massive advantages when it comes to keeping an eye on workmen grin), that makes at least 430 man hours (actually more as towards the end there was another guy working too to get the job done). that comes to £11.50/hour, inclusive of materials - not such a bad price after all.

the bill was eyewatering, and I was shock that dh wanted it done so badly. now, a year on, I am glad he did - at lest we havent sat looking at lurid 70s decor for the last year grin

noddyholder Wed 03-Apr-13 19:37:02

What size type of house is it? I renovate houses for a living It seems too much to me

ImTooHecsyForYourParty Wed 03-Apr-13 19:43:25

good grief.

I am either Scrooge or just really out of touch.

Either way, I am really glad we do it ourselves. We are lucky in that we just have plain painted walls in every room.

Anyone can do that! I don't think we'd be able to do wallpaper. Ok. I know we wouldn't. grin

Although, we are having a new kitchen atm and as part of that they stripped the walls back to the plaster and skimmed it again - is that the right word? A new coat of plaster?

And the language they were using as they tried to scrape off 7 years worth of paint that was coating the original backing/wallpaper. Well. It'd make a sailor blush grin

Kiriwawa Wed 03-Apr-13 19:50:18

I totally agree with what flow4 said. I'm a single parent so woman on my own, sound posh and I've had ridiculous rip off quotes from people in the past.

Get a few more quotes

KindleMum Wed 03-Apr-13 20:02:52

flow4 - well, he should at least believe that DH is a chartered accountant, but then, as you noted, DH "lets" me deal with the builders so is clearly a fool! And he's making too many assumptions - like many people, we have a largish house because we have been careful with our money over the years, no inheritances or windfalls, we've worked for it and we didn't get to be mortgage-free in our 30s by flinging cash at builders like confetti! I don't see why they think it's a good idea to assume we did. But thank you for being a calming voice of reason and pointing out that I just have to find a not-at-all sexist or prejudiced and 100% honest and good value builder! Hopefully most will be better than these guys. But I am disappointed as they were the most-recommended to me.

Polly - prep work is a good point but they've charged for that seperately! Charges additional to the decorating for stripping woodchip and skimming artex. It appears I should pay thousands for a plasterer and then be told the walls aren't good enough to be painted! We do apparently look that stupid, or that flush with cash. (can't be that as the BBC says I'm traditional working class)

Hecsy - as a result of this thread I am giving serious consideration to paying for perfect plastering so that I can paint the walls myself in future and give up on paper entirely. It sounds like it will save me a lot of time, hassle and money in the future.

noddy - iirc, about 177 sqm.

There are a fair few Poles around here. I wonder what they charge for stripping woodchip paper etc. They used to be good value in London a few years ago.

lalalonglegs Wed 03-Apr-13 20:51:28

Even in London I wouldn't pay excellent decorators more than £175 per day and I'd reckon on two men taking 3 weeks to do a building that size which comes to £5250. I know day rates are far lower in Yorkshire.

As others have said, the builder is being untrustworthy and disrespectful from the off and you shouldn't even give him the time of day. Use his quote as a yardstick to measure others against though.

marriedinwhiteagain Wed 03-Apr-13 23:51:35

OP - my DH is from W Yorks and is very poor at negotiating; haggling. I think it's a cultural issue and they have quoted a toppy price because they don't expect it to be haggled.

Angelico Thu 04-Apr-13 00:04:11

We got our whole house done for two grand and felt like we'd paid a lot so am shock at your quote. That said it was a team of guys and they did a good job. Your quoters are taking the piss. I wouldn't hire them on principle.

I did my whole house, painted living rooms and large extension, hall stairs and landing, 2 bathrooms and three bedrooms - 2 coats of paint for £46 using dulux paint - plain magnolia - but fresh and nice.

I'll come and do yours, and wallpaper where you want for less than half what you've been quoted!
Wallpapering is easy BTW!! smile

80sMum Thu 04-Apr-13 00:14:20

Gosh I'm surprised that so many people say £120 is the going rate for a day's labour. IME it's more likely to be £250. When you add on the VAT of course it's even more.
You'd be better going directly to a decorator, rather than through your builder, I think. Their rates are likely to be lower.

pollypandemonium Thu 04-Apr-13 00:31:06

Kindle if they are charging additionally for prep work, they can go and take a hike. Get your mates up and give them the job.

flow4 Thu 04-Apr-13 00:51:59

I definitely think your mates are the answer... Much more pleasant to have around your house, for a start. smile

£250/day would mean you'd be paying your decorator 4-5 times what you'd pay a cleaner, and almost twice what you'd pay for private music tuition, here in W. Yorks. You'd be paying your decorator more than your builder, accountant and perhaps even your solicitor!

I'd personally aim to pay about £10/hr but I'd be more likely to pay per wall or per room - there are adverts on Gumtree placed by local decorators who charge £80-100/room.

Rates won't necessarily correlate with skill. Really you need some local personal recommendations. I know you're new to the area, but have you made any friends/acquaintances yet? Other mums of the school run..? Playgroup..? Local shops..? Even your next door neighbours... I know my neighbour is the first person I'd ask if I wanted a decorator who wasn't my friend. smile

westcoastnortherner Thu 04-Apr-13 00:52:38

It's too high, best thing to do is to get at least four quotes, then pop them all into a spreadsheet so you can easily see what they have included for or left out..

DontSHOUTTTTTT Thu 04-Apr-13 01:00:11

You could post on MoneySavingExpert's forum. They have a section called 'is my quote fair' or something similar. You get lots of good advice there (not that you don't here smile ).

DontSHOUTTTTTT Thu 04-Apr-13 01:08:13

You could always employ a local quantity surveyor to draw up a proper spec and tell you what you should be paying. It would cost you a few hundred (or more depending what you have done) but it takes the guess work out of things.
I did this for a lot of the renovations we carried out on our home and found it extremely useful. I definitely saved a bundle of cash. I told the builders what I was doing before they gave me their quotes. They didn't mind at all.
When I got the quotes the quantity surveyors calculations were really useful.

haveapear Thu 04-Apr-13 07:08:17

We were quoted 3 grand to decorate 2 bedrooms - just paint them. We have a period house with very high ceilings. Dh bought some scaffolding and we painted them ourselves.

noddyholder Thu 04-Apr-13 07:48:52

Usually apprentices/juniors do the prep. If there is a lot of tricky period detail it costs more eg cornices and doors needing a lot doing. I would expect a large 16x 17 high ceilinged room to be about 750-1000 smaller lower ceilinged no fiddly bits (technical term) 12x12 ish about 400.

wonkylegs Thu 04-Apr-13 07:56:26

Sounds a lot to me - we've just had halls & 2 staircases, dining room & living room ceiling done. Job was complicated by requiring a lot of prep & ornate plasterwork, lots of stainblock, lining & painting very high ceilings and an awful lot of spindles & doors. Took two guys 10days working round furniture £1200 & loads of coffee & biscuits. grin

flow4 Thu 04-Apr-13 09:56:46

Yeah, that sounds more like it, wonky. smile

allmycats Thu 04-Apr-13 10:13:06

we paid £100 per day labour to our decorator (extra if he supplies paint/paper etc) and he usually takes between 3 - 5 days to paint and
paper a room depending on size - and he does a very good job.
we also have a 60's house with very large rooms

herbaceous Thu 04-Apr-13 10:36:08

We just had our hall, stairs and landing done, in London. They stripped any fiddly woodwork right back to the wood, sanded, stripped off patches of woodchip, relined with lining paper, filled missing bits of coving, and painted all walls, woodwork, and the floor.

£800, for two people, over eight days. Your builder is a chancer and an arsehole.

DontSHOUTTTTTT Thu 04-Apr-13 12:36:22

[Shock] shock. £800 for two men over 8 days = £50 a day each. That's only just minimum wage.

I pay about £120 - £150 as a day rate. I don't pay cash in hand. (Except for a gardening bloe. Who does a few hours here and there)

DontSHOUTTTTTT Thu 04-Apr-13 12:56:44

Typo... 'Bloke' not bloe

NotAQueef Thu 04-Apr-13 13:05:03

Could it be that they don't want the job so have deliberately quoted over the top - a bit like those insurance companies who quote £25000 for teenage boys (ie they don't want to insure them)?

herbaceous Thu 04-Apr-13 14:03:54

DontSHOUT - I know, ridiculously cheap. And it wasn't even cash-in-hand. They're a retired couple, who do decorating to supplement their pensions. Thus, not a very good comparison. But, say, they both got paid £100 a day, the job would still have been £1600, which is still a damn sight better value than the OP's quote!

myron Thu 04-Apr-13 15:13:35

I have paid £100 day rate (labour only) for a 5 day job - 2 rooms - ceiling, walls, skirting, window ledge & door but that was in Feb '12 when my painter wasn't that busy and accepted a lower rate. In Jul '12, his rate was £250 per day (for 2 men) for a 10 day job. He was busy and he did an excellent job the first time round so I was prepared to pay him his 'normal' rate minus a modest discount for being a repeat customer! SE (outside London)

cooper44 Thu 04-Apr-13 15:52:46

Kindle I just had entire place done (3 bed but big rooms) and it was about £4k I think poss even less. There was tons of prepping work sanding back all the original window frames bannisters etc. only one bedroom wall papered. They worked their butts off. Came back to do any snagging. Generally bent over backwards. I'm
In SW London.
Sorry for typos am on the phone.

LadyHarrietdeSpook Fri 05-Apr-13 16:01:23

I don't know...when we moved to our current place (also five beds) we had to strip walls of lining paper, replaster and repaint four bedrooms, repaint the front of the house...take paper down in bathroom and repaint...and that was round about £11,500. A different guy painted the loft room (much easier job) - for £300...hall ways £500 (good price) and just under a grand for the two sitting rooms.

I thought ours was expensive at the time. But we're in Greater London...and the job wasn't easy...taking all that paper down including stuff on the ceiling. You are wallpapering...it's difficult to say really. You might get him down to £12K.

I wouldn't be surprised to hear about the 'opportunism' you speak of. But it can be a huge shock to see how much more it is to decorate a larger place. We had budgeted £5K based on our 3 bedroom house...! blush And had to have a stiff drink after the decorator came round.

Moominsarehippos Fri 05-Apr-13 16:06:36

A rough guide is £200-500 per room (for everything).

Viviennemary Fri 05-Apr-13 16:07:53

That sounds a huge amount of money. But I know somebody who got a huge quote for a hall and stairs because they were very high ceilings. Somebody said around £500 per room is reasonable. Less for a small room, more for a larger room. And also £10 per hour sounds about right if an hourly charge is applied. It's not unheard of for a very big job for a quote to be half as much as another one. Hope you get sorted out.

UptheChimney Fri 05-Apr-13 16:15:57

I am renovating a big old Victorian terrace: 3 receptions, 4 bedrooms. Plastering etc has been done. I only want white semi-satin throughout, with white gloss woodwork, and the quote was for just under £4000.

ivykaty44 Fri 05-Apr-13 16:23:00

Kindlemum - he thinks your thick and is trying to fleece you - problem is he is not very bright and didn't even think about the fact you were an accountant as he probably doesn't understand accountants deal with VAT...

Go and find a large barge pole and keep him that far away from you at all times

then find another decorator and explain when you want the quote you are an accountant and the last builder tried to fleece you thinking you wouldn't understand the accounting part - which will then hopefully sink in that you know about figures and VAT

I've just had a double height hallway painted, I cried at the first quote £1200. Managed to get it down to £650 after getting quotes from every company in the area and offering one guy to do it as a weekend job. I think the moneys going straight into his back pocket, but hey my halls lovely now.

shock I would expect my whole house to be gold leafed for that price.

MmeLindor Fri 05-Apr-13 16:35:42

Blimey! I am quite happy with the quote of £1100 to paint our whole house now. That is only painting, and it is a 3 bed ex LA house but still.

That is almost half the budget for our whole house renovation.

maevesport Fri 05-Apr-13 17:47:20

I paid £9000 ish for a large 4 bed,4 recep,kitchen,utility,2 ensuites ,a wc and a family bathroom.
Backing paper and then painted white throughtout.Doors and skirting board as well.
I thought that was expensive but seems not !!

serin Fri 05-Apr-13 22:01:57

Good God that is ridiculous.

We had a whole new roof for slightly more than that (large 4 bed detached).

AChickenCalledKorma Sat 06-Apr-13 20:34:28

We have just paid about 5000 to decorate the whole of our newly extended 4 bed house. That included all paints, including lots of woodwork, but no papering. We are in Surrey.

Smiles26 Sun 07-Apr-13 13:00:01

Kindlemum, I have a property maintenance business, where are you located?

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