high sleeper mid sleeper cabin bed argh!

(41 Posts)
bigbadbarry Thu 08-Nov-12 14:16:52

We are just about to decorate a room for my nearly-9-year-old DD (up until now she has been sharing with her sister). The room is (significantly larger than the room I had as a child) medium sized - maybe 2.5 x 4m, that sort of size. I think a bed that we could put something useful underneath would be grand but I am utterly befuddled by all the choices out there. Has anybody done this recently and has words of wisdom to offer? High (hard to make in the mornings and change sheets?) vs mid? How is a cabin bed different? Bookshelves/futon for a friend/wardrobes...the only decision I have I think made is that we should pop a little desk under there. But if there is a brilliant one that has other things, the desk could be separate.

My view - don't do it. Got one for DD1...she loves it but I hate it because
1) PITA to make/change
2)PITA to give her a kiss goodnight when we go to bed.
3)PITA to read a story
4)PITA as the play space underneath is just a place for her to make a mess
5)PITA as have now lost the storage space with did have under her bed
6) Hers came with a desk - but this s separate in the room as there is not really enough head room for her to use it afterward
7)PITA as now we have moved it is a big to bog/looming/high for her room - so we are having to now give to DS.

But this is my experience. Others love them. TBH I am hoping it falls to bits when we move it out of storage and into the house. And so you know we have a mid-high sleeper - so mattress about shoulder height on me (though I am a shorty).

If I were to buy her a bed again I would consider a slightly higher than normal but still normal height (IYSWIM) either day-bed like thing or something with lots of drawers/storage underneath.

drivinmecrazy Thu 08-Nov-12 14:31:49

Don't get a high bed for all the reasons FishfingersAreOK says, and more! Having said that my 11yo has loved hers, but the few times I have snuggled in with her it feels like a coffin. so close to ceiling.
Also means we can't use her room as an emergency spare if we have unexpected guests.
She has now outgrown it so offered it to DD2. I don't think so!!!!
Fortunately hers can be made into a very nice normal single bed which is what we will be doing very shortly.
Storage is a myth!! all it becomes is a convenient place to put all her crap when she is asked to tidy her room, all gets pushed under and out of the way, invisible to her but not to me

SkaffenAmtiskaw Thu 08-Nov-12 14:32:27

I've got one like this (without the seat) for my dd's room which is quite small. It's really well made and solid, I got it quite cheap on Ebay.

I have solved the changing the sheets problem by getting dd to do it herself from about the age your dd is now, with help to start with. We don't bother with making the bed in the mornings [slattern]

We had an Ikea Kura bed before, which is reversible (low or mid sleeper) but I found it not so useful as the space underneath is quite small when in the mid-sleeper position, so only good for storing stuff. In practice there it meant a lot of wasted, unused space in the bedroom

Hope that helps! smile

PhyllisDoris Thu 08-Nov-12 14:33:08

Completely agree with Fishfingers - stay clear!

*A bugger to make the bed and change the sheets
*A bugger if DC is ill and particularly if they feel sick - nowhere to put a bowl by the side of the bed
*Impossible to put them to bed if they fall asleep somewhere and you carry them to bed
*Really hard to cuddle them once they are in bed
*Really difficult to cuddle up for a bed time story
*Space underneath is too small to do anything useful with
*They won't really use the desk as a desk - just as a place to dump stuff
*Takes ages to get down in a toilet emergency

I could probably go on...

betterwhenthesunshines Thu 08-Nov-12 14:35:03

DS had one when he was about 7. It was a cheap one (Kuka or Kuba or Kavla?) from IKEA. Wooden frame that was reversible so you could have a low bed with a four poster effect ( fun for making camps but a bit pointless and I always bumped my head) or as a mid height bed with play space under.

He decided fairly soon that he missed bedtime cuddles, stories together etc so we ended up chopping the legs off! Glad it wasn't one that cost ££££

It also makes a small room seem smaller I think as there's a large 'block' of furniture just at chest height. I would go for a bed with good storage underneath (pull out drawers great for all sorts of toys and bulky jumpers etc or even underwear/clothes). And then wall shelves up the wall over the foot of the bed where she won't bang her head on them.

If she wants it a bit more girly and special you could always put up a netting princess hoop thing which you can take down later

bigbadbarry Thu 08-Nov-12 14:41:24

Gosh I am obviously very mean - I couldn't tell you the last time I got into her bed for cuddles and a story! The downside of being the eldest, I guess sad I haven't carried her to bed from elsewhere for several years either. However, take the point about sheet changing and a messy area underneath. Though the pull-out futon for sleepoevers seems like a good idea? And hadn't thought about a sick bowl! What about the mid-height ones, I could reach to change sheets on them ok?

bigbadbarry Thu 08-Nov-12 14:44:33

Also, we will never need to use it as a spare room, so that isn't an issue.

steppemum Thu 08-Nov-12 15:11:47

my ds has had one for 3 years and is now desparate for us to change. We also had bunks in the past, issues are similar

pros
more space (his is medium height, has space under)
he uses under space for lego, and then the rest of the floor is walkable and lego is defined

cons
horrid to change
can't cuddle ds in bed
can't do bedside story in his bed
he can't flop on bed with friends to play on dsi
he can't sit on or laze on bed without climbing up

dd1 is about to get new room which is smallish, she want ssame as ds but we won't buy it, instead we are looking at a low cabin bed, one that has drawers under and has NO WOODEN front edge, so we can sit on it, I can do stories on it etc

Ikea has a nice wooden daybed/sofa thing that looks good, we are selling it to her on the sofa bed front

YDdraigGoch Thu 08-Nov-12 15:14:30

No cuddles and no bed time story!!! Shock horror!

Reall - don't go there with any kind of raised bed - you will be so sorry. When my DDs were small, DD1 was sick in the top bunk - she lent over the side and it splashed all down the ladder and onto DD2 sleeping in the bed below - uch!

bigbadbarry Thu 08-Nov-12 15:50:06

She has cuddles! But not in bed. And she'd rather read to herself.

steppemum Thu 08-Nov-12 16:11:40

we do cuddles and stories on my bed, and now ds is older he isn't so botherd, but now he is really complaining about the place to flop and sit with friends round. dd really likes her cuddles and stories on HER bed so I know she will mind

the being ill is a nightmare too, I often end up pulling mattress off cabin bed/top bunk on to the floor, so they can easily go to the loo or be sick without the whole room getting covered. we have had a similar sick episode YD, and cleaning up 2 children and 2 beds at 3 am is not funny

steppemum Thu 08-Nov-12 16:15:35

actually looking at other comments, my ds really uses the space underneath to play. At the moment he has a lego train set there and he can often be found sitting there buiding lego. It is a sort of lego den. I think it works best if you have something specific under there. Or even a couple of bean bags and a cd player.

SunnyUpNorth Thu 08-Nov-12 16:16:48

Annoying my post just disappeared mid type, grrr.

Anyway no experience of the above but I alway thought the ikea daybed looked great for your age daughter.

It can be used as a sofa in the day which should make her feel grown up. It has storage drawers and a pull out bed underneath which is handy for sleepovers and as an emergency double for guests should you ever need it.

bigbadbarry Thu 08-Nov-12 16:29:32

I think I might have a look at this one since we live close to their showroom. Not too high and doors on things to hide the mess. I did quite want a pull-out bed for sleepovers but I guess we can get a little futon or something.

partystress Thu 08-Nov-12 17:33:02

Oh dear... just about to order one of these which my DD (9 and v tall) has set her heart on.

Reading and cuddles we do on my bed anyway, as my fat arse we don't both fit on hers. She assures me she won't feel claustrophobic in it. I hadn't thought about vomit-related problems, and bed-making in our house is shake and smooth, so not too worried about that. This just seems like a great value way of getting a spare bed and desk without using valuable floor space, and DD actually likes it, which is major achievement given her hormones all over the place sad.

Will watch further posts with interest...

PolterGoose Thu 08-Nov-12 17:59:13

Never ever again for all the reasons mentioned but especially the vomit issue. Cleaning vomit projected from height is not pleasant, you will never find all the vomit however hard you look grin

betterwhenthesunshines Thu 08-Nov-12 19:31:04

The only other thing - if she's 9, she's not far off from wanting to use her room as a separate sitting room when all her friends come over. A mid height bed will be trickier to all sit and chat / do nails on / cast discarded clothes across plan outfits or whatever.

Elegantlywasted Thu 08-Nov-12 20:58:15

DD nearly 12 and had her high sleeper for a year, is PITA to change also you need to bear in mind the hassle when you move, depending on how it is put together, it may need to be taken apart and re-assembled, so don't lose the instructions!

We don't snuggle up for a bedtime story anymore, she is far too old for that, or so she tells me. Her bed has a sofa for 2 underneath which converts to a spare bed and a desk which she does use.

Unless you have a large room though they can dominate the room, I think including the frame the one we have is just over 7ft in length.

On the odd occasions when she has been sick she has managed to get down quickly enough and then she sleeps on the spare bed underneath as she can have a bowl by her side or get to the loo quicker.

Startail Thu 08-Nov-12 21:06:18

DD1 has a high sleeper and it almost touches the ceiling. she loves it. she's 14 and has her lap top, ipod books and all manner of junk up there.

It is a pita for all the reasons listed and it's ladder sticks out and attacks your toes every time you enter the room and I bang my head on it rounding up her washing.

TalkinPeace2 Thu 08-Nov-12 22:42:52

DS and DD both have high sleepers that they love
DS bed is a second hand Stompa that we bought on Ebay
DD wants to get a normal bed next year (she'll be 15)

mine change their own sheets ...

LimeLeafLizard Thu 08-Nov-12 22:52:17

DS has a cabin bed which he loves. It fits a small cupboard and chest of drawers underneath which is a great space saver. There is also a little gap for a pull out desk, which we don't use so the boys crawl under it and make a den round the back.

Normally it isn't any problem to change the bedding, although I am pg atm and now I have a biggish bump I am getting DH to change it as I can't quite reach.

Overall it was good value for money (50% off in M&S sale a few years ago) and I don't regret buying it.

I also like those beds which have a spare mattress in a drawer underneath.

ilovetermtime Thu 08-Nov-12 22:53:39

Both my DS's have these: http://www.childrensbedworld.co.uk/p/Gami_Montana_High_Sleeper.htm
And love them.

I get up in them to read a story and have a cuddle and I think they're really cosy, I'd have loved one when I was little! They are a pita to change, but it's not THAT big of a deal.

The built in wardrobe is especially useful I think, especially considering how much wardrobes actually cost!

ilovetermtime Thu 08-Nov-12 22:54:43
eyestightshut Thu 08-Nov-12 23:00:32

www.hancockbedsnottingham.co.uk/prod.php?prod=196 We got this for DS - it's just the right height for changing sheets without having to bend (I'm 5'6") and for cuddles at night. Loads of storage space and we got it cheaper at bedzrus.co.uk

MuddlingMackem Thu 08-Nov-12 23:09:39

DS has a shorty mid-sleeper from Argos and DD has a high sleeper, from ebay but originally from Ikea, off which we had to lop off 7 inches from the length in order to fit it in her room.

I don't really see the point of them if you have a decent size room, although I suppose a mid-sleeper can get you some extra storage and not be too much of a pain to change. However, our kids' bedrooms are tiny so it's the only way we could fit a single bed in for them, and even then they can only have the 5' 9" x 2' 6" matresses. I wish we could fit a high-sleeper in DS's room to put a wardrobe underneath and give him some more floor space, but his ceiling slopes so there isn't the height. sad

(When we were shopping for DS's he wanted the one with a slide. We pointed out that if he had space for a slide we wouldn't need to buy him a mid-sleeper! Interestingly, I don't think Argos do the slide option any more. grin )

magichamster Thu 08-Nov-12 23:18:36

Ds has a mid sleeper with a slide from Argos. It's really well made and he loves it, but it's a pain in the backside when they're sick. Changing the bed covers is a pain, but a top tip is to use a double sheet on the single mattress and tuck it round - much easier.

MuddlingMackem Thu 08-Nov-12 23:25:04

Ah, magichamster, so somebody actually bought the slide version. grin My DS would be so jealous of yours. LOL!

bigbadbarry Fri 09-Nov-12 14:10:39

Thanks - glad to see some people don't hate them!

greebo Sat 10-Nov-12 10:01:57

We have had both a high and a mid sleeper and they were both a PITA. Have found the best option is a normal bed but higher legs like this www.warrenevans.com/beds/?fgid=12 but with storage boxes under. we used these www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/products/80098516/ much cheaper.

hermioneweasley Sat 10-Nov-12 13:14:09

Marking place

Devora Sat 10-Nov-12 20:53:51

My dd has a mid sleeper, one a bit like this but without the tower: www.toysrus.co.uk/Toys-R-Us/Kids-Room/Beds/Pink-and-Lilac-Tent-Mid-Sleeper-Bed-Frame-with-Slide(0065156)

I have to say it's worked really well for us. I'm tall and it comes up to chest level on me, so pretty easy to lean over for cuddles/ reading/ bedmaking. I have the slide, which both my children absolutely love but which can easily get removed when they get older. I have got rid of the cheap and nasty tent that came with it, and made my own curtains from nice vintage fabric.

Underneath we have some storage drawers, and strings of fairy lights, and one of those fold-out seats that converts into a single bed. So it's a lovely place to sit and read and play - like a fairy cave - and also gets used for sleepovers. Children love sleeping under there.

Yes, all the clutter gets thrown underneath, but I think it's FANTASTIC to have somewhere you can hide your mess in a hurry, so no complaints from me there smile

bigbadbarry Sun 11-Nov-12 16:06:51

I've just ordered this one because when we went in to look, much as I really liked the one with the proper stairs, they did make it rather huge and were fixed at one end (ie you couldn't reverse it)

2kidsintow Tue 13-Nov-12 22:33:00

My DD2 has the mid sleeper with the slide. We have strung fairy lights on the slats under the bed which gives a really good light to read/play by. It is the right height to lean over and give a little hug and a goodnight kiss. I do have to climb up to change the sheets.

DD1 has bunks. Nightmare. She has to change her own bedding and has done for a couple of years now.

SissySparkles Tue 13-Nov-12 23:19:02

DD has had a mid sleeper since she was 2.5, she's now 5.

It's fine. Changing the sheets is fine and I'm only 5ft3. I potty trained her at night in this bed, so had to do a few middle of the night changes of bedding and it was ok. Luckily she's never been sick <touches wood>

I can still read to her in bed and cuddle her, I just climb into bed with her grin I've even slept in it myself and it's very comfortable.

The under bed space is brilliant, and it means she has some floor space to actually play with her toys. And there's somewhere for her cousin to sleep when she comes for a sleepover.

lljkk Tue 13-Nov-12 23:28:15

Mids sleeper fine, high sleeper nightmare (for reasons listed).

ilovetermtime Wed 14-Nov-12 05:25:19

2kidsintow that's just reminded me of another good point of high sleepers. Because they're a pita to change, it encourages you to get the kids to change their own beds sooner than you may have done and therefore gives them greater independence at an earlier age grin

Dd age 9 has high sleeper as her room So small it mean Only a bed otherwise . It's fine she loves it cuddles in my bed story wise she rather read to herself

She strips her bed and does try to put sheet on but her big brother often called into help . Vomit wise she just takes bowl up with her

yawningbear Wed 14-Nov-12 07:08:53

Loving the idea of fairy lights strung though the slats, we just bought a second hand mid sleeper for DD who is nearly 4, so much younger than your DD but she totally loves it, we built it on Sunday afternoon and by 5 she was in pj,s and asking to brush her teethgrin. I had been thinking fairy lights in the den underneath would be lovely but had been imagining some major mishap could occur, but I will try the bed slat idea. Hope your DD likes her new bed smile

2kidsintow Wed 14-Nov-12 19:47:01

We got a set of the LED low voltage ones and have fastened them to the slats with cable ties. They are secure and don't touch any fabric. And as they are low voltage LED then they don't warm up either.

Aethelfleda Wed 14-Nov-12 22:49:20

We have a mid-sleeper for our smallest bedroom simply
cos it's the only way we could fit clothes/books/toys into the room. At the same time as the bed. We had a kind chippy friend build it for us, and DD1 loves it. It's not superhigh, prob does make the room look even smaller but it did solve the storage issue really well and short of moving house we wouldn't get more space in there any other way. It's got 8 drawers, 3 small shelves and a double toystore area.

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