Anyone familiar with Grappenhall Heys (outskirts of Stockton Heath/Appleton)?

(45 Posts)
suebfg Fri 16-Dec-11 21:55:24

Have seen a house I really like here but not sure what it's like to live there. Does it feel quite remote?

chatee Fri 16-Dec-11 21:59:34

no , not remote in the least...good but overcrowded roads.

suebfg Fri 16-Dec-11 22:01:55

Overcrowded - do you mean in Grappenhall Heys or Stockton Heath?

chatee Fri 16-Dec-11 22:03:22

Stockton heath and warrington in general and the surrounding motorway network

suebfg Fri 16-Dec-11 22:05:07

Hi, yes I'm familiar with Stockton Heath and Appleton but less so with Grappenhall Heys. Not sure whether it's seen as an attractive place to live - house prices seem lower there - not sure why?

KellyKettle Tue 20-Dec-11 17:31:25

I live very close to GH. It is desirable although mainly (only?) new build housing from what I can tell. Countryside and nice walks nearby but very close to Stockton Heath for shops/night life and motorways for travel. We don't find roads or motorways overly busy.

The primary school is very good and is a feeder for Bridgewater High which is one of the best in Warrington.

Do you live near here?

buggyRunner Wed 21-Dec-11 17:47:39

Beautiful conservation area, near Stockton Heath- great shop/ restaurant place real village feel, good motorway links, good price compared to the other side of m56

suebfg Wed 21-Dec-11 20:28:16

Hi yes, we're looking for a modern house so Grappenhall Heys would appear to fit the bill. But we'e currently on a bus route with some local amenities - and Grappenhall Heys doesn't have these, although as you say, they're only a short drive away.

KellyKettle Wed 21-Dec-11 20:31:03

I think there is a bus through GH or at least the number 8 passes very near by and through to Stockton Heath. I wouldn't be put off by that. smile

sixtiesqueen Thu 22-Dec-11 12:51:15

I live nearby and have to buck the trend and say I dont like most of Grappenhall heys - the Poster who referred to overcrowded roads might have been referring to the narrow streets

sixtiesqueen Thu 22-Dec-11 12:58:46

Didn't mean to post as hadn't finished typing! Some of the roads are better and some of the houses better in terms of sPace. I find the area around the Primary school has narrow roads and some other bits are very overlooked though broughton close and croft gardens are better. In general I think the area has too few facilities and though this may eventually change, my understanding is that the local council are not allowing new development before 2015 So there isn't much hope of even a shop. Parts of Appleton would Prob suit you better as more facilities and generally easier to get about. GH school is good and has excellent reputation but so does Appleton thorn school and st Matthews is good too. Cobbs and broom fields separate infants and juniors on two sites and have about three classes for every year

sixtiesqueen Thu 22-Dec-11 13:00:45

Didn't mean to post as hadn't finished typing! Some of the roads are better and some of the houses better in terms of sPace. I find the area around the Primary school has narrow roads and some other bits are very overlooked though broughton close and croft gardens are better. In general I think the area has too few facilities and though this may eventually change, my understanding is that the local council are not allowing new development before 2015 So there isn't much hope of even a shop. Parts of Appleton would Prob suit you better as more facilities and generally easier to get about. GH school is good and has excellent reputation but so does Appleton thorn school and st Matthews is good too. Cobbs and broom fields separate infants and juniors on two sites and have about three classes for every year

suebfg Fri 23-Dec-11 20:08:30

Yes, I don't like the area around the Primary school - it feels like a Prison camp.
I like the Broughton close area though.

Tbh though, Appleton doesn't have many facilities and if you live in 'old Appleton' i.e. Firs Lane side, there's nothing over there at all.

sixtiesqueen Fri 23-Dec-11 21:44:29

yes, you're right about Old Appleton, but it somehow feels much closer to Stockton Heath - takes about 15 minutes to walk down there (longer back - uphill!!) and less remote than GH. Even nice houses in GH take much longer to sell, whereas nice houses in Old Appleton (the area you describe) are snapped up and the prices are much higher, which there must be a reason for - as far as I can tell, the reason is the houses have more character and they are closer to Stockton Heath - are you mindful of re-selling in the future or is this not a factor?

It sounds as though you've already made up your mind - and it's really a very nice area to live - but you did start the thread asking for opinions and still my opinion is that it's much more 'remote' feeling than some other areas would be if that sort of thing bothers you. You might like a 'new' house on Calderfield Close better - it's in Stockton Heath - there's usually one or two for sale there and they don't last long!

suebfg Sat 24-Dec-11 06:43:52

Thanks. No,I've not made up my mind. I've noticed too that they take longer to sell in GH and the house prices are lower - the same houses would be worth an extra £50 - £100k in Appleton. Resale/rental potential is a huge factor for us as we don't know what the future might bring!

sixtiesqueen Sat 24-Dec-11 14:23:31

I don't know what your budget is but if you are considering broughton close and that sort of price then I would look at the properties for sale at the 575k mark on both Hatfield gardens and fox hills close in Appleton. Personally I'd prefer the one on Hatfield because it's close to a little playground and there's tonnes of open space for kids, though fox hills is perfectly nice too. Quite by chance I have been inside the house on Hatfield gardens and it's really really lovely and has a great garden which doesn't seem to feature much in the property spec on right move. No harm looking, I think you'd feel less isolated there than you would in GH.

sixtiesqueen Sat 24-Dec-11 14:24:42

And no I'm not the owner or even a friend of the owner, I just know lots of the properties in this area!

suebfg Sat 24-Dec-11 15:15:46

Hi, yes that's around our budget. There are a couple on Hatfield - which one have you been in?

sixtiesqueen Sat 24-Dec-11 19:42:14

There's one at 560k that's been on the market for ages- not that one - there's one that's slightly more expensive - I think it's 575k and that's the one I have been in. It's at the end of a row so no through traffic and it's been beautifully maintained. I would have bought it if had come to the market this time last year but it didn't so we bought another renovation instead. It came to the market about 3 weeks ago and I though 'doh'!!

sixtiesqueen Sat 24-Dec-11 19:52:29

And of course thats your other option, buy a house at knock down that needs renovating if you have the stomach for it. We bought a 1961 house (hence Mumsnet moniker) and completely stripped it out. The house cost 345k, we spent 170k making a total of 515k and 12 months later it's worth about 600k. We have no intention of moving but it made sense financially and it's a new house to all intents and purposes with the advantage of being on a large plot with no overlooking. I'm struggling to think of anything similar in the market at present but when we bought this there was another two round the corner we could have chosen from so they do come up and more are likely in the new year

suebfg Sat 24-Dec-11 20:40:36

No, we haven't the stomach for a renovation - been there done that and have no intention of going there again! It has to be modern this time round.

I'll have a look at the Hatfield Gardens ones - I prefer the look of the £560k one tbh but as you say, it's been up for a while now.

serin Tue 27-Dec-11 19:14:06

Not at all remote and close to motorways BUT souless and as for beautiful err .... No!

Stockton Heath is as rough as hell in the evenings and on a good day it takes about 20mins to drive through it, a lot more if the swing bridge is up.

There are much, much nicer areas of cheshire, with much nicer schools and certainly better sixth forms.

suebfg Tue 27-Dec-11 19:49:15

Serin, which areas of Cheshire would you say are better? I think the Stockton Heath/Appleton area is really nice, with great schools. Agree that traffic can be a problem in Stockton Heath but lots of popular places are the same.

serin Wed 28-Dec-11 23:08:31

Okay, Nantwich is lovely and a better distance from Warrington! (like 20 odd miles away!)

Hale, Tarporley, Knutsford, Kelsall, Delamere and Hartford are all much nicer and have far less traffic problems, better schools and nice communities with things going on!.

Malpas and Wybunbury are also sweet.

All depends what you are looking for, we are more rural types!

sixtiesqueen Wed 28-Dec-11 23:54:46

I agree with Serin about Nantwich, Tarporley etc. However, Hale is hardly 'rural', suffers airport noise and a high number of poncey wankers, sadly.

Knutsford is great but I always noticed when I had children in pushchairs that nobody let me pass on the narrow pavements and thought that Knutsford was up its own arse thereafter (and the high school has a poor reputation).

Wybunbury is indeed very sweet. Twee almost.

South Warrington is not 'twee' or 'sweet' but some of the areas Serin describes are superficially 'sweet' whilst full of smug Wankers (don't get me started on Lymm!). Stockton Heath is lively at night - I wouldn't say 'rough' but equally wouldn't want to live there. The area has the advantage of excellent motorway links, which is crucial for some people (including us). If I had a choice and didn't need to be near a motorway I'd probably live in Nantwich or Tarporley. And I'll retire to Poole!

suebfg Thu 29-Dec-11 07:10:07

Yes, we're not really into rural living.

We've looked around pretty much the whole of the area and I like South Warrington as it's not as 'poncey' as some of the other areas mentioned like Lymm and Hale and it has great schools. Knutsford has terrible aircraft noise.

Tarporley and Nantwich do seem nice but are ruled out because of the commute.

Interesting that you've mentioned Hartford as there are one or two houses there that I like the look of. But I'm in that area quite a lot and I thought it seemed a bit rougher than the Stockton Heath/Appleton area and without the restaurants/facilities. Any comments on Hartford please?

buggyRunner Thu 29-Dec-11 07:39:19

Hartford is nice but you pay £££ for the direct London train line. Davenham is far nicer and cheaper- saying that if you have older children hartford is great for them to get about.

Have you looked at Frodsham?

KellyKettle Thu 29-Dec-11 08:12:21

We looked at Hale and Knutsford but were put off by wag-ish-ness (Hale) and High School (Knutsford). Our DDs are only small but it seemed that people take the gamble on their children getting into Atly Grammar. Otherwise, we love Knutsford, it would have been our first choice.

Having said that, DH and I need the motorways for work & family. We moved to
South Warrington last year from Yorkshire and have been really happy here.

We neighbour GH. Great school & playgroups etc for DDs, friendly people, Stockton Heath really convenient. We've only been for meals there in the evening so no idea what the bars and pubs are like but we've really enjoyed some of the restaurants. Our local pub is nice.

Lymm we found to be really over priced. The village centre is lovely but a lot if the houses outside of the centre were ugly, small and £100k more than here. We'd also heard there were problems with over subscribed primaries (are your DC primary age Sue?).

suebfg Thu 29-Dec-11 15:27:16

Is Hartford a strong property market? We may, in the future, want to rent out any house we buy. South Warrington appealed to us as the market is quite strong there but not ridiculous like Lymm for example. But Hartford might suit - especially if on direct line to London. South Warrington isn't great for rail links.

Yes, our DC are primary age so schools are a consideration. We were put off Lymm for the saem reason as yourself KellyKettle.

KellyKettle Thu 29-Dec-11 17:43:37

Appleton Thorn primary is an outstanding (ofsted) school & a feeder for Bridgewater.

Lymm High is very good and Grappenhall primaries are feeders for there.

I don't know Hartford really except that it's nice/pretty.

Runcorn is on the line to London I believe. The station is in an ugly place but not too far from South Warrington down the Daresbury Expressway, I've user it a few times.

Is there a MN local for Hartford? How soon do you need to move? Could you browse Rightmove for Hartford for a while to get a feel for it? I imagine the location & good schools would certainly help the rental Market.

suebfg Thu 29-Dec-11 21:34:55

We would like to move in the next 6 months ideally. We are more familiar with South Warrington tbh and have visited the schools already so it will be South Warrington unless we find somewhere better.

There just happen to be a few new homes for sale in Hartford at the moment whereas there aren't any new developments in South Warrington - we want a new house or very modern at least.

buggyRunner Fri 30-Dec-11 06:33:03

There's a new development in Hartford which is Lovely (way above our budget) it's advertised by Williams estate agents. It is a very strong Market in Hartford- we didn't want to move there as we couldn't get the house we wanted for our budget (ours was 375 max)
Really good sense of community- lots of toddler things on and v family friendly (I love quite close so if any questions feel free to ask!)

KellyKettle Fri 30-Dec-11 09:00:33

That sounds lovely buggy

Sue there are three developments that I can think of. Swans Reach in Daresbury (though think this might be catchment for Runcorn schools).

In Walton there is one called Walton Locks I think. Nearest primary is probably Stockton Heath primary which I think is on special measures but is a feeder to Bridgewater and local parents quoted in the newspaper in support of school and aghast at special measures.

In Stockton Heath there's a development called The Heath but it's actually Latchford, opposite Morrisons.

The development in Walton has some beautiful show homes.

There are a few new-ish homes around Appleton Thorn and Stretton (opposite Pewterspear which is a lovely conservation area for walks, feeding ducks, kids to play etc.) The Sports Pavillion is also there. Stretton St Matthews school is a good school but CofE.

There's a lovely house on Green Lane towards Cann Lane for £499k. 4 bed detached with a little annex. It's lovely inside & Green Lane is lovely, we often go for walks down there.

suebfg Fri 30-Dec-11 22:07:24

Had a scout around Hartford today and enquired about the Hollies development but they're all sold now anyway. Tbh, I wasn't that overkeen on Hartford - I know it has the schools and colleges but it doesn't seem to have the facilities of South Warrington in terms of shops and restaurants.

We're not keen on the Daresbury/Walton area as we'd rather be on the other side of Stockton Heath, closer to the motorway network and not impacted as much by the traffic in Stockton Heath. So mainly the Appleton/Grappenhall/Stretton areas.

I did drive past the house on Green Lane a couple of months back but it's been discounted as it's a bit quirky. We're looking for a largish modern property that needs no work (apart from maybe some superficial decoration) and is standard in every way. I love the houses in the High Warren Close area but they're more than we want to pay and are a bit big for our requirements really.

NoMC Sun 22-Jan-12 18:03:07

Just want to say that Grappenhall Heys is a great area, there is a walled-garden nearby and beautiful walks. I am living in GH, and I am loving the area. Very calm and quiet, nice neighbours, safe and close to motorway...

CQ777 Wed 19-Jun-13 11:18:43

I heard that Grappenhall Heys Primary school is not so good. Know lots of people who have taken their kids.

tb Thu 20-Jun-13 19:46:06

Traffic in Knutsford is appalling any time that there is a problem on the M6 between jn 20 and about jn16. The A50 was the main road before the motorway, and it's where all the traffic ends up when there's a problem.

Also, Knutsford High - although they say how great they are - is where pupils end up when Alty Grammars say their pupils would be better elsewhere ie when they get chucked out. On a regular basis they're banned from Boots/Booths/Martins (the ctn) for shoplifting.

Loads of great places to eat, mix of housing, but there is aircraft noise from the second runway.

BrendaH Mon 24-Jun-13 12:36:37

I have heard unpleasant things about the Grappenhall Heys area and especially the school. Maybe best to steer clear.

doodlemumtoo Tue 23-Jul-13 22:58:19

All unfounded I'm afraid. Gh is a brilliant school and turns out lovely, confident kids. Sad that some people seem to want to publish bad things about it. Go and look for yourself and make up your own mind!

Sixtiesqueen Wed 24-Jul-13 17:16:02

I live locally, my children go to a different school but as far as I know, grappenhall heys school has a good reputation. I've never heard a 'bad' word about it.

The only thing I have heard (from several people) is that the parents can be a bit competitive. They used to say it was 'run like a private school' and parents were expected to contribute more money than in other schools.

I have no idea whether this is true.

holidaybug Wed 24-Jul-13 22:18:50

Hi, I have heard that there have been issues with teaching of in the middle school years at that school - that was a couple of years ago though. I've been to the school - it was a close contender for us and seems as good i(if not better) than any in the immediate area.

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Helliecopter Sat 21-Sep-13 07:41:55

I've got family round Northwich way - Hartford, Barnton, Weaverham etc., which are lovely spots and often get overlooked as they're a bit further into Cheshire but still pretty accessible from the motorway.
Some lovely, lovely houses and vibrant communities round there too.

Cusal30 Tue 01-Oct-13 19:55:35

I've got two children at grappenhall heys school and can't speak highly enough of it. The teachers are fantastic and the children aren't just numbers as I felt they were when I visited other schools in the area. It's a small school and there are always going to be people unhappy with some things- but in mu experience and there are many many like me- I feel they really do try very hard to support children and parents in a very individual and nurturing way. My kids have both flourished since starting at the school and become more confident and are so happy there. What more can I ask for!

Jubbly123 Wed 02-Oct-13 18:32:37

WOW - love that people can comment on here when;
1. They do not live in Grappenhall Heys.
2. Their children do not attend the school.
I have lived here for 10 years and I am also in my tenth year at the school, both my children (one has now gone up to high school) have been here since they were 3 years of age, in short Fantastic Community School, with Fantastic Head Teacher and Staff who nurture, develop, build confidence and treat them all as individuals, and more importantly make it fun to learn, I have a very happy boy there who has never once said he does not want to go to school, 100% attendance in fact.
Oh and my house is a gorgeous too, and doesn't look like prison block ��

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