Moving to Manchester - and I have no idea where to go. HELP ME PLEEEEAAAASE(490 Posts)
So, we are going to Manchester, DP has a job in Salford.
So far I have investigated Altrincham but the LEA have told us that its highly unlikely the children would get into the same school. Its really important to me that they do as they are upping sticks and leaving all their friends behind. I don't mind home educating until places come up, but not as a long term solution.
Or, we could move further out and move out from the city (currently in London so that appeals). If DP can do a maximum one hours commute, its possible.
We have 4 DCs so want to base our search around good schools - they are in primary at the moment, but will soon be in Secondary and we don't really want to move twice, so we'd like to get it right first time round.
I am stumped and have no idea where to look. Any suggestions, words of wisdom or pointers would be greatly appreciated!
Have fab secondary grammar near us Rossendale Lancs 'BRGS'.
When working my commute to Manchester was 45 min!
Maybe bit too far though to Salford ??
Have you looked at Chorlton , Didsbury , Heaton Chapel ??
BRGS Bacup and Rawtenstall Grammar School
Brilliant start Lilyloo! Thanks.
I have looked at some property in Didsbury, on property websites as it goes. I'll check out the other places you've suggested.
there are some great schools round south manchester - didsbury and chorlton for both primary and secondary..
But it really depends on what type of school you are looking for.. and environment you want to bring kids up in .. 1 hour out of manchester can take you to north wales! I live in manchester and find it varies wildly within very short distances.. both in terms of culture, schooling house prices etc..
I moved from London to manchester and found it quite hard to start with so let me know what you are looking for - wish I had had that info before I moved!
Thanks ZZMum! That is very kind of you
I've got absolutely no idea at the moment. My older children love school and are quite academic, but also love sport. I initially was looking at Trafford because of the 6 grammer schools. I'd rather keep them in state schools, especially at Primary school.
Open space is quite important to us, somewhere to run about. We could spend up to £400k on a house I think.
I suspect that it will be similar to London insomuch there are deprived inner-city areas up against more well-to-do areas. We can't really decide whether to go for this as we are now, or make a move to the country. But that's because we don't know anywhere.
You could even head out into Cheshire....Poynton has an excellent school and is on the train line to Manchester.
Is that go South Manchester, or stay south of the Country
Cheshire is a definate possibility too.
OK I would agree with Trafford for good grammar schools.. Some places I would look at are Hale which has some lovely restaurants and bars - quite close to country but backs onto the city.. Also Bowden but you might not get a big enough house for £400K there as it is quite expensive. Try Sale or Altrincham - they are nice and get you close to the grammar schools. I would personally stay in south manchester or cheshire - it has more similarities with London and the south east.. cheshire is very much like surrey..
Knutsford is another option - nice town centre but lots of countryside..
The one thing to think about moving out too far is that transport links are not as good as london - you do not want to land up having to drive everywhere..
Mmmm quite a tricky one to advise on as I found when I moved from london, manchester seemed quite small and did not have half of what i was used to in London - this is not true anymore but most of the good stuff is in the centre of manchester so I would not recommend being too far away from it all - but guess that depends on what you want to spend free time doing...
I relocated to the area 7 weeks ago and also have 4 dcs.
We chose a village about 40mins south of manchester.
The schools in the village are excellent (both primary and secondary).
I love the area and the people have been really friendly and welcoming.
What type of area are you looking for?
We were advised to contact the schools of our choice and find out where had places before we looked at any properties.
there are some pretty decent state non-selectives in greater manchester area - bury secondary schools tend to be good.
manchester has a good tram system - running between altrincham and manchester and bury and manchester.
If working in Salford would definately go for North Manchester. Bolton has good primaries and for secondary independents Bolton School and Bury Grammar. Personally I'd go for the Bury side and B Grammar relatively a bargain
BGS is a good school (I went there ), and Bury and its environs are fine, but South Manchester and Cheshire are much nicer places to live, imho. I grew up in North Manchester and most of it is pretty grim.
Are your children all Secondary? Chorlton is a very nice place to live but the Secondary Schools are not that good.
Arrgh....hadn't finished! Stertford Grammar is practically in Chorlton though. Old Trafford / Streford and Chorlton much much easier than Didsbury to commute to Salford.
There is a City Academy in Whalley Range called William Hulme that used to be a private school until recently but I think you have to live within 500m to get in on distance grounds.
Surely relying on them all getting into a Grammar school is a big risk?
Sorry, should have read OP. Right, definitely live near Longford Park in Chorlton, primaries are good and the kids can go to Stretford Grammar ... sorted .
Just got back from football and logged in, thanks so much for all your messages and wisdom!
there are some lovely areas of north manchester, which are not as pricey as south
e.g prestwich and whitefield which are near salford and also good transport links.. metrolink and buses, trains etc
LOL Accidental Mum! Job done then!
Yes, it is a big risk thinking they could all get into grammer school, but I'm staying positive. So far they've done really well at school. Of course that could change, a big move could disrupt them for instance. That's why I want to get this right.
I hadn't considered Bolton. Its quite important to me to live in a 'nice' area, with some open space.
Although we're in London the part we live in is quite green, and to be honest I don't venture out of it much It's got quite a community feel and the kind of place you know your neighbours. That's ideally what I'm looking for.
Lucewheel, how are you finding it so far? Did you have any knowledge of Manchester before your move?
Should I be looking at areas first and foremost, or schools? I know that the school thing is a gamble.
Is Chester too far?
What about somewhere on the coast? Or is that madness?
I don't really know if I want City or Country. Having lived in big cities all my life, its more natural to me, but the thought of bringing the children up somewhere more countryfied appeals. But not in a tiny village where everyone knows your business, and there is only a pub and a post box. I do know that much
I had never been to either Manchester or Cheshire before DH was offered his job here.
We came on a scoping visit to look around the region and found that areas are all very different. We were also told that getting the dcs into the school of our choice and even being able to get them all into the same school would be very difficult.
We found a village and schools that we were happy with and had no problem getting the children in thankfully.
I miss my friends but am otherwise very happy here. The children have settled in better than I could ever have hoped.
Will you be able to go and have a look at the North West before you make any decisions?
Yes, in April we are going up.
Lucewheel, that is really good to know. Comforting infact. I'm dreading it if I'm honest. I love where we live now. I can walk to the shops and will see someone I know, schools are great, and there's lots of green space. Its a good move for the family as a whole, but personally it makes me sad.
One of the brilliant bits about Chorlton, Sale, Stretford, Didsbury etc is closeness to the Mersey Valley park land (Chorlton Ees/Meadows) lots of open space to walk and play, lots of wildlife. Makes it a brilliant place to bring up kids. I grew up there and miss it a lot.
Parts of Stockport (Heatons especially but also Bramhall etc) good also (and I think still a direct train to Salford...?) and Stockport Grammar (though a private school not an actual grammar in the old style) is very academic.
Not completely up to date but as far as I know the state schools in South Manchester are not awful - it is not like London at all.
If a commute to Salford is important, you either need to be on the trainline, the Metro or close to the M60. But TBH that is most of South Manchester!
Cheshire towns/villages all lovely but longer commute. Knutsford, Alderley Edge, Prestbury, Wilmslow all upmarket and expensive in places. Dunno about schools though doubtless loads of private ones. Macclesfield centre on train route but not quite as posh.
Chester a bit far for a quick commute though places in between - Round Tarporley etc with good access to M56 are lovely.
So how did you find your village?
Thanks Wilfself Chorley has come up a few times, so I will look at that more too.
I love MN! Far more useful information than anything given by the company.
NOT Chorley! Chorlton, you muppet. Don't end up in Chorley by mistake. You will be disappointed...
PS Worsley is IN Salford and the village (though really a suburb) is v posh in places and nice walks along canal etc. Like Cheshire, lots of footballers live there. A fact that would put me off but no idea what floats your boat . Mixed housing types though, not all nouveau riche palatial...
If you want open space Southport is lovely but is around 40 miles from Salford. It is on the coast and has lots of parks and green space - good schools too. My kids are in primary and but there are definitely a couple of good secondary schools in the area. Your £400,000 would get you a nice house here.
under budget, nice area and swimming pool!
I moved here from Scotland 18 months ago and haven't looked back once.
Isn't Salford a bit, umm, shit? I mean there are apparently gated residences (I believe they call them), then boarded up squats next door. I may be stereotyping here, I read an article in the Guardian about Salford once.
I am not fussed about footballers one way or the other, but my boys, oh they would love it!
Was going to say Worsley.
Also Ramsbottom/Rossendale north of Manchester. Bit more rural and some v good schools
I live in Rossendale and DH commutes to Manchester no probs
DH lived in Salford during his Uni days
I'd avoid tbh
Crikey Schneebly! That's not bad.
And, I think I've been to Southport a few years ago. Is it quite a traditional sea-side town? Although I've probably got that confused with somewhere else. Geography/paying attention was never a strong point
Yeah, parts of Salford are a bit shit, but then so are parts of London! Like most big cities, posh bits live right next door to rough bits. Worsley is pretty upmarket but perhaps not quite Surrey!
Worsley village info
Sorry, not clear, Worsley is NOT the area of salford I was thinking of!
Worsley is nice
FWIW I would NOT commute to Salford from Southport. 40 minutes when the traffic/roads are clear; 2 hours when not...
I had an idea of what I was looking for when we came to look around and just loved one village. After I had seen it nothing else seemed right.
I was also dreading the move but I feel like I have been here for ages now. I find life alot less stressful and everyone has been so welcoming.
GRRR at all the slagging off of North Manchester!
We've just moved from London to Prestwich, and love it. Bury borough is at least as good as Stockport borough for schools, and I believe Bolton is the same.
DH is from Heaton Moor originally, and TBH for the inflated prices you'd pay to live there it's all a bit "meh". A branch of Krobar doth not an urban village make.
I find Didsbury a bit braying (think Fulham/Clapham).
Chorlton on the other had is lovely (more Stoke Newingtony) but is in Manchester City borough and the state schools there are not as good as in the outlying boroughs.
Stretford has some lovely bits if you want to do the grammar school gamble.
Traffic up here stinks though, even on the motorway at rush hour, so I wouldn't want to be too far out in terms of commuting.
How long is his commute Lizzylou? DP doesn't mind commuting. He can do his current one in 40 minutes on a good day, over an hour on a bad. Its not even that far away. If its a decent run, I think it'll be fine.
Besides, he just wants me to be happy. Probably
I am SO pleased I started this thread! Now I feel I have something useful, something to actually work with.
Thank you everyone
Keep it coming!
the other thing I would add is that public transport here is not at good as London. If your DH is working within walking distance of Salford Crescent/Central stations then you might be able to get away with a public transport commute, but if not, it's likely that he'll have to endure the rush hour traffic with the rest of us.
I know people knock London transport, but I miss it now .
Ohfox I looked into good secondary schools because we found that most primaries are very good. It will give you a starting point to be able to compare areas.
I also used Up My Street to look at the social qualities (or lack of ) for different areas to give me a more balanced view.
yes tradiotional seside town but has had lots of work done in recent years and has a nice, almost continental feel.
You should listen to WilfSell though - I have never attempted to commmute from here to Salford do wouldn't know how long it would take - 2 hours would be awful!
fox, do you mind me asking where in London you are, and what you like about it? Might help work out what areas of Manchester would correspond?
<puts money on Fulham now that I have been disparaging about it>
I would love to live in a seaside town.
I have found a 5 bedroomed house in Chorlton which looks sufficient
We have a 3 bedroom flat at the moment. It is a good size and accommodates the 6 of us just fine, but everything up there looks enormous, and very, well, grown-up!
I could have a loft! Somewhere for all DPs crap much loved stuff.
LOL Paddingtonbore, erm, it was the other one actually!
But I'm not like that! Honest!
I like where we are because
it has a Common
The council's leisure facilities are good for the kids, we have great sports activities in the school holiday
it is walkable to decent shops and supermarkets
schools are good - Primaries are anyway. Secondaries are OK, or very good but hard to get into
It has a community, and feels like a neighbourhood.
I'm a SAHM, so all of this is important to me.
I knew it!
I'm only jealous - we lived in Peckham.
If you like Clapham, Didsbury does share many of it's good points: not too far from the centre of town, but quieter, a family feel, green space, good local shopping and bars.
The "braying" comment really only refers to the young professional types who colonise the main drag on a weekend evening. IMO West Didsbury is a bit more grown-up and family friendly (plus has better restaurants) than the centre of Didsbury.
If you've somewhere to sell in Clapham then Didsbury should be in budget. The schools aren't the greatest, but if you are planning on going independent, Manchester Girls High and Manchester Grammar are highly rated, though selective and therefore not easy to get into.
you might like Chorlton too though - shares most of Didsbury's good points, but has a more alternative home (aka The Muesli Belt). I'd live there in a flash if we could stretch to a 3 bed house there.
alternative fell, I meant.
I would second Preswich if thinking up North.
We live in Stretford and it is fine. As a guardian reader Chorlton would be right up your street (probably the biggest distrubtion centre of the Guardian in the country!)
If I had the choice I would live on the stretford side of longford park - kenwood road area, lovely houses about £100 grand of chorlton proper prices, but near enough to walk into chorlton. But you get all the great trafford schools (even the non- grammar schools are good and all pretty much are 'better' than Manchester schools)
I go to Salford uni and it takes me about 20 minutes at rush hour.
Further out my DSS lives in Hebden Bridge (about an hour away in rush hour) - in west yorkshire; grammar system but he is decided to stay at the excellent local state (Calderdale high), v. guardian!, lots of lovely countryside. He and his mum love it there. He has so much mmore freedom than when he lived in manchester.
I'm a South Manchester girl so I'm biased I'm afraid - I'd be tempted to head south into Cheshire - Wilmslow has a good selection of differently priced houses and the school is pretty good. Stockport schools are good (well with a couple of exceptions) and academically do much better than the south Manchester secondaries.
Bramhall might suit you?
not as trendy as Chorlton maybe but more 'old money' iykwim and more suburban.
Something like this house? or would you want more traditional?
I grew up in East Manchester, Droylsden to be exact. Don't move there, it used to be nice when I were a lass but now it is grim. Mucho violent crime and deprivation
Have also lived in Salford, in a fairly grim bit. Eccles (just outside of Salford on the Swinton side) used to be nice, as did Patricroft (although there was a power station there, I remember going to it on school trips!). Don't know what the areas are like these days though.
If I were to move back that way with your budget I'd be looking at Worsley and further out to Cheshire. FWIW, Congleton is much more affordable than the real footballer belt of Alderley Edge etc but is still only a mere hop skip and jump away. Also agree with the person/people who mentioned Knutsford.
Ramsbottom is lovely too
When I lived in Manchester Chorlton was not posh and Whalley Grange was full of hookers . Such a shame as it is full of enormous, beautiful Victorian properties which in those days were mainly carved up into horrid bedsits for the dealers and addicts . I'm always faintly amazed to hear/read about the gentrification of it and the high prices given how I remember it not that long ago.
I would avoid chorlton tbh. we moved after a gang broke into our house whilst we were in! I know people who have been mugged outside their houses, lots of serious crime basically on our doorstep. The shops etc are great but we didn't feel safe. Council services are poor.
I would look at Bramhall, Cheadle, Cheadle Hulme, Poynton etc. Nice parks, local services - leisure, library etc are very good. Nice communities, more family oriented than Chorlton or Didsbury.
Whalley Range still has hookers, they hang out outside the local primary school
Now that sounds more like the Chorlton I knew, NorthenOne. How scary for you
@ hookers. Waiting for all the Guardianista SAHD's perhaps ?!
was scary yes
If you happen to be Catholic, cheadle has a Catholic primary rated outstanding
Agree with NorthernOne. I'm always surprised how much people recommend Chorlton.
Been at work, sorry.
It takes DH between 40mins-1hr, but he drives into the centre of town.
YOu do get a lot for your money in Ramsbottom/Rossendale. Very villlagey, but rather rainy! Tendency to get snowed in.
I'm not really a city type though, so I personally wouldn't look at Chorlton/Didsbury.
South Manchester Lymm just south of Altrincham is lovely as is Knutsford.
Bet get yourselves a weekend up here to get a feel for the place!
Hebden Bridge is fab.
Some fab properties there, lovely restaurants, cafes and a nice arty feel, we're going there for a day out tomorrow.
There is a train into Manchester there.
You lot are great
And finding me properties too!
Don't want to live where there are hookers, given DP reads the Guardian ...
I didn't like Congleton
I am 40 mins south of Salford not Manchester if you have any questions about this area OhForFoxsake.
I think Didsbury is your new home, Chorlton is lovely too very "boho luxe" though.
We live in Didsbury, v family friendly, similar to Clapham, both Chorlton and Didsbury retain a bit of a city vibe and are less provincila than heaton Moor/Bramhall Poynton/Cheadle etc.
Worked in Prestwich for 5 years but as a South Manchester girl would never be tempted to move there, it's v "local" as opposed to South manchester which has a lot more diversity i.e. people from all different areas of the country have decided to settle here after leaving University (like us!).
As another poster has mentioned Didsbury and Chorlton are v near to lovely Mersey valley for counrtyside.
For £400k you could get a lovely house too!
I'm from Trafford originally and my parents still live there - in Flixton/ Davyhulme where there are some good primary schools. Urmston is nearby & Urmston grammar is the local secondary if you pass the 11+. My Nan used to live in Chorlton & moved away (to Flixton) when it went downhill.
If you're rich look at Hale/Knutsford/Alderley Edge - that's where the footballers live!
I am back armed with a shiny new Pukka Pad, and I feel a spreadsheet may be necessary
This is all so helpful. Thank you.
And for giving me some hope that it could actually, possibly, perhaps just might, be OK.
Mobberley. Coupla nice gastropubs there. Though I suspect they're all into wife-swapping
Pampas grass on the front lawn?
Still with Noonki...that is exactly where I meant. Bramhall is lovely though, and not far at all from Manchester....very very green. If you want the country though, Hebden Bridge however is not such a ridiculous idea, so many of my friends move out there, including one who commutes to Salford and it is so so nice there.
I have lived in Manchester and South London over the last decade and couldn't really bear to be too far out of the city, but then I don't drive.
I drive, but would rather not. I want to live somewhere where I don't have to get in the car to get a pint of milk, or take the kids to school for that matter!
So how do South London/Manchester compare? Did you stick with what you knew and find a comparable area, or go for something different?
I need a map. And some coloured pins.
Chorlton has big arty, studenty population, trendy bars and shops only 15 mins from city centre and easy journey to salford, problem though is that whole area, chorlton, didsbury, stretford is very congested, traffic is generally terrible and there is just no space. Or thats how I find it. Sale, altrincham, hale very nice, good schools and links to m60, still have 11 plus system in trafford.
If I were you id check out poynton, lovely village feel but still lots of open space, bars, cafes, good schools etc.
oh check out timperley village as well, this is inbetween sale and altrincham, lovely vilage, quite big, still in trafford for schools
Now you've mentioned it, flourybaps, I recognise Timperley from my property searches. Seems that Altrincham as a whole isn't too bad, although Trafford LEA have told me its most unlikely the children would get into the same school, which put me off. I will definately have a look at it when we visit though.
I don't need trendy bars, as we don't go out much and I will have no mates <sob>
Lymm is gorgeous. It's a big village with excellent schools, the secondary school has a very good reputation Lymm High website here. It's 5 minutes from the motorway network, but you get no feeling of being so close to the motorway in the village.
It has a fabulous village centre with lots of shops and good eating and drinking.
You can easily drive into Salford in an hour.
It's a leafy village and is overall gorgeous. There is also Lymm Dam which is a beautiful spot for walking and picnics.
The village also has it's own forum where you could ask any questions Lymmnet
We used to live there, I can't recommend it highly enough.
I can't believe I forgot Sale! I was settled in Wimbledon by the time I left London and Sale does remind me of it, ie. a proper mini town centre IYKWIM. Would really like to live there. But if Trafford LEA aren't optimistic it probably isn't for you. I live in Stretford as we've been priced out of Chorlton, but hope to move back in the summer as rents seem to be plummeting along with house prices but TBH, if I drove and was starting over anyway, I would do the village/ small town (Cheadle, Bramhall etc) rather than the suburbs thing. I wouldn't want to have Stockport as my default local shops though.
it depends what you like Sale etc is pretty suburban, we are in stretford but looked in Sale and found it quite small minded (read 'racist')
(as is stretford tbh)
Altringham is pretty posh/money kind of like posher footballers wifes.
chorlton is full of teachers/social worker types (little beards and beanie hats...)has great shops/pubs if you like that type of thing, (I have to confess to have only been out in city centre about twice last year, as always go to chorlton now)
what sort of area do you live in now?
oh agree with accidentalmum about stockport - some of it is lovely but the shops are vile and some of the areas are truely depressing.
Not a massive fan of Sale tbh, always left me cold, likewise Stockport.
I am such a bumpkin though, Lymm is lovely (my friend lives near there and have had some great nights out there)would love to live there.
Should probably clarify that I have only been to Sale twice, but I thought it seemed nice and had lots on for kids
It's very easy to get to Manchester from Cheadle/Bramhall though, only 10 mins. Actually though, we now prefer going to Stockport - it has all the main shops you would expect (M&S, Waterstones, Monsoon, Topshop etc etc) but is much more relaxed than Mcr if you are shopping with young children. You also have the John Lewis/Sainsbury's in Cheadle and the M&S and Tesco's in Handforth
Oh and when buying, have a map of the proposed tram extension handy
Agree with comments about Sale. Daily Mail territory.
Cheadle/Bramhall 10 mins to Central Mcr?
By Lear jet would that be ?
I will put that about Sale on my list and note it. I need highlighter pens now for such info
I have been off looking at property in Lymm. Found a nice 5 bedroom, 3 bathroom place in budget.
Sorry Noonki, I thought I had answered your question, got sidetracked househunting. We are basically in Nappy Valley, as Paddingtonbore said, it is a bit 'braying', or it can be in places. Lots of young children (so good schools oversubscribed), lots of activities and playcentres run by the local Council. Has a good neighbourhood and community.
Sale is a souless suburban palce, ditto Altrincham Timperley village is ok I suppose though all a bit Daily Mail imo.
The shops in Stockport are ok(ish) but the merseyway shopping centre is horrendous! Burberry baseball caps and BNP territory. Avoid.
Fuck off minx I live in Timperley. Daily Mail my arse!
Yes we have a wonderful vocabulary in Timperley.
Sorry minx - haven't seen you before.
It's all a matter of personal fit though, isn't it?
I think your basic choices are the urban villages (sorry that sounds wanky) of Chorlton and Didsbury, which really are most like Clapham; pleasant suburbia like Bramhall, or a proper Cheshire village.
I would take lots of the times people give for commuting with a pinch of salt though, as people seem to be giving the fasted time The Stig could drive from their village to town given a clear rode and an Aston Martin. I only have to travel 4 miles across town, but that can take 45mins-1hour on a bad day at rush hour. Think London traffic, only without a viable public transport alternative.
"rode" - arf. ROAD. ignore other typos. I have a darling macon villages on the go.
Quite Wilf - I was going to link to him as well. You can go on Frank Sidebottom's magical mystery Timperley tour in an open top bus you know.
<books bus tour for DH's next birthday>
Or even North Manchester/Lancashire
Not as overrated nor as expensive as the predictable south manchester areas(though do hanker after Lymm meself!)
I could make commission on this. Where's Frank's number?
The trafford bit of M'Cr is nice just not to my taste that's all, I did say imo, not fact, and I think I'm allowed my opinion!
Obviously if I had a choice between Timperley and Harpurhey I'd go for Timperley (ducks and runs for cover from Harpurhey residents)
Manchester traffic is a nightmare, the rush hour runs from about 3.pm to 7pm in the eve, 6 miles from Didsbury to town takes about 45 mins in the morning.
Cheadle and Bramhall 10 mins, on a flying carpet!!
[hhm] x 100
must be a different shopping centre to the one i go to
<swoons at Timperley's sleb status>
lol at BNP in the Merseyway!
ok so it's not all that pretty, but really it is no worse than walking down Market Street in Manchester (actually, it is much much less crowded)
has a fabulous shoe shop for kids as well
Ohforfoxsake, look at Lymm!
All info on previous page. I don't know if you missed it or it doesn't float your boat!
Oh no Lobsterlass, I've been looking at it on Primelocation Its on my list.
Next thing I'll do is look at schools in each area (1.5 pages of A4 Pad ) and then try to shortlist.
I do so like a project.
I moved from east London/Essex borders to Sale 18 months ago. I haven't found it racist (DP is asian,2 mixed race kids)
The town centre isn't great compared to what we had in London but I always feel 'safe'. My dc are only little (2.4 and 10 mo) so don't know a lot about schools but from what I hear at toddler groups (loads of stuff for kiddies here) the schools are pretty good. The worst thing is that everything is closed on a sunday, we tried to get a fry up when we first moved here and couldn't
What? Closed? On a Sunday?
Oh good! I can't tell you how friendly we found it. We lived there for about four years and loved it. Made lots of good friends in the short time we were there.
I'm in Bramhall. We've been here seven years - moved up from Oxford. I think you need to book yourselves a Travel Lodge-type thing and come up for a weekend and travel round a bit and see what suits.
About 12 mins into Piccadilly on the train and 7 into Stockport. Primary schools all very good indeed, not up to speed on secondaries as yet.
We went walking around Bakewell today (Debyshire) took 45 mins mins to drive there. Peak District 30 mins away. Trafford Centre 20 mins.
Seriously it was a shock to my London born and bred system. I had to cook my own fry up
Hello Judd, I'm also in Stockport, but the Heatons. Bramhall is lovely i've been recommending it!
hehe, had the same thing in Didsbury once, wandered in to get breakfast, even a coffee....nowhere open until 9:30am and had to wait for the machine to warn up. I went through a period of boycotting eateries left, right and centre for various reasons but I am over it now .
I don't why I love this thread so much but I do
I second Ramsbottom/ Holcombe Brook area. Its fab! Very close to Manchester, lovely village feel, schools are great and best of all its in the countryside surrounded by hills so loads of walks/ bike rides and you feel like you are in the lakes or somewhere!
here it is
Hi Lucycat, I've seen you before on the camping threads but I didn't know you were so close though! I had a read through the thread carefully to see if Bramhall was getting a good name or not - yay!
Well, I moved from the SW to Hale last year after copious research plus a few weekends of scouting SW Manchester from Wilmslow, Knutsford, Lymm, Appleton and finally settling in the borders of Bowden/Hale (sampling a particularly fine Italian lunch in Danilo's helped to make up my mind). I have 2 children, the eldest started reception last Sept and I made sure that our house was in catchment of our 1st choice state primary - especially since we made a late application for a place. The trouble with Trafford is that the excellent state schools are oversubscribed (no surprise there) so classes are usually maxed out so can't help you on that score. Hale is really quite cosmopolitan and dare I say it - has a West London feel to it. Also a major factor for why it's fairly pricey but having relocated for DH's job - I decided that our priority was schooling. I really like the area and we've lived all over including the SE(Surrey & Berkshire), Midlands & Warwickshire plus Gloucs & Somerset. HTH.
If it helps, I'm aware that if your child passes the 11+ in Trafford, the next criteria is distance from your 1st choice school - consequently, it's pretty expensive to live near the top state grammars in Trafford - looks as if there are plenty of people hedging their bets in Trafford to me! And yes, Hale/Bowden/Altrincham must be full of champagne socialists (no offence intended).
Rossendale is nice - good local schools and grammar school (Bacup), might be too far. Helmshore is a lovley village, excellent schools and you would get a great house for your money.
I would defintley recommend Rossendale over Whitefield, Prestwhich, although transport links better.
Re. getting into a Grammar, there is no 11+ as such now. The schools all set their own examination and have different admissions systems. Some let the top 20 scoring applicants in regardless of distance, then go to anyone who passed in order of distance.
MN rocks! It really does, honest opinions and good advice. You've all given me so much to think about - it really is very much appreciated.
I am happy with good state schools or grammer schools. As long as the children have the opportunity of a good education, I'll be happy.
Ramsbottom looks amazing - thanks for the photo Hotpotmama - I can't believe that I could actually live somewhere like that.
Yes, we've got a few trips up to do I think, and I will take all your good advice about the schools.
Thank you everyone I can't tell you how much more positive I feel about it.
Last week I cried walking down the street just thinking about it You've made a difference.
Will stop with the gushy-mushy stuff now
You are welcome, glad to have helped. It really is great here, everyone is so friendly, we love everything about it.
We can walk from our house and be in the woods or up Holcombe Hill (where the tower is on the picture) in ten minutes. Fab for us as we just love being outdoors!
Ok thats my sales pitch for Ramsbottom over!
Just reread the thread and i'm sorry but it doesn't rain all the time in Ramsbottom. See my picture above! The sun is shining.
In the 5 years I have lived here we have been snowed in about twice. My boys loved it when we did get snowed in cos all the kids on our close spent all day sledging and building snowmen!
Good luck with wherever you decide, am sure it will be lovely. Let us know where you end up.
I thought it rained a lot in Ramsbottom, until I moved to Rossendale, we've been snowed in twice this year already
It is beautiful here (that's Ramsbottom/Rossendale area) and I do feel at home.
Gosh Ohforfoxsake, you've lots to think about, but it must be nice to know that there are viable options for you.
Hotpot - how long does it take to get to manchester city centre (not a rush hour) from Ramsbottom?
This thread is making me want to move (again!)
are there niceish pubs?
Noonki nice restaurants, some bars and some nice pubs in Ramsbottom (we lived there up until 4 years ago and loved it)
Takes about 40/45mins to Manchester I guess, depends on traffic
About 20 - 30 minutes or you could go by tram from Bury.
Pubs, there's lots of good ones dotted all around, a good one just down from the tower, Shoulder of Mutton, lovely food after a walk up the hill. In Ramsbottom there are lots of pubs and some great restaurants, . There's a new place just opened called The Lounge which is good for a drink.
Where are you noonki?
Lizzylou, I grew up in Rossendale, moved away to Uni then Leeds but leapt at the chance to move back 5 years ago. So glad we did, have made great friends here.
Lizzylou we can get there in 20-30 minutes on a weekend, but suppose the traffic is good then.
Hotpot, I loved living in Rammy, pre-kids we ate out about 3 times a week, just walked down to the centre of Ramsbottom and there was a choice of loads of nice places.
The swimming pool/gym has a great and v cheap creche. And of course the steam train!
We still go to Ramsbottom a lot.
We moved to Rossendale as we couldn't sell our house and bought a new one (part ex), have to say I love it here too.
Ramsbottom/Rossendale is a really pretty part of the world, friendly people and gorgeous countryside. And not far from Manchester/Bury/Bolton and motorway links.
we live outside preston. takes about 45 mins to get to salford. lovely village, 15 mins from coast, schools great.if dh is in salford, u really need to be looking north manchester or further faield north.
Thanks for the info. Hotpot!
Do you know anything about the local primary schools? We want to go and have a look around any inside info?!
We live in Stretford (near Chorlton but v dull and a bit depressing imo), I really don't want the kids growing up in the city - I grew up in Oxford and my DH in Morecambe/lancaster. so feels odd this big place for them.
We looked at Ramsbottom before kids (about 6 years ago) and nearly bought a house on a whim then but chickened out at the last minute (far from friends /nightlife) now we have no nightlife and lots fo friends but seems like it easily close enough to see people, and make new friends.
Noonki, I know that Greenmount Primary is supposed to be fab. Not sure on the others.
The High School is good as well.
Noonki there are lots of excellent ones, Greenmount, Hollymount, St Joseph's, St Andrew's, St Mary's Hawkshaw,
There's one in Stubbins (just on the outskirts of Ramsbottom) that was in the Sunday Times top 50 Primary Schools list, can't remember its name.
That's something else I thought of last night- I want to bring the kids up outside the city, but want the city to be accessible because one day, they'll want to go out, and go clubbing and shopping and up to no good <sob>
This morning the common outside our house is under at least 6 inches of snow and school is closed. Everyone is out there, there's a great vibe and lots of fun. Now that's what I need to find!
This is really interesting because we are moving out of Manchester, way into the country ( for work reasons).I do want to bring my children up in the country, but any move is very scary.
Ohforfoxsake, where ever you choose in Manchester, the best thing about it, is the people are very friendly and welcoming. No one seems to care if you are from the south or north or went to school in the area.
change is scary, isn't it?
Lovely house, not sure about Haslingden, there are some really nice parts, but not sure enough to be able to advise.
I think that there are nicer areas, hence the price (what a bargain though!).
If you want somewhere more countryfied, you need to go further out, Cheadle Hulme, Bramhall or Knutsford, or some of the north Manchester places mentioned. Chorlton and Didsbury are very nice, but quite young and urban. Spend as much time as possible mooching round the areas, I think you'll get a feel for them quite quickly.
Then you've just got to find somewhere to live, get a school place, rent or sell existing house and then move - just like we are. This isn't scary, it's completely insane.
With £400k to spend, a desire for state schooling and a commute to Salford, you want to be looking at Sale and Timperley. You can't really afford Altrincham (not the nice nits anyway) or Hale or Bowdon.
Trafford schools are excellent. Grammar if you pass, if not you want to be within a mile of either Wellington Road or Ashton on Mersey Schools. Youu can afford that and the Salford commute will be fine.
Yeah, they only have expensive nice nits in Altrincham, Hale and Bowdon
No, not Haslingden, the house is very close to the town centre. Not really the countryside you want.
Helmshore in Rossendale is far nicer, don't you think Lizzylou?
Hotpot, agree Haslingden. When we were pre-DC we almost bought a huge Victorian house in Haslingden for peanuts (in todays prices), the house was fab, but the area not so much. Although Haslingden High is a fab school.
Yes, Helmshore is lovely
As is Greenmount, Holcombe Brook and Hawkshaw (dreams....love Hawkshaw)
ooh definately Helmshore over Haslingden.
Holcombe Brook is lovely!
Go with Lilyloo's 1st choice, that's where I live, we could be neighbours
<<Realises that she is now scaring OP>>
Ok, travelling time from Wilmslow/Alderley Edge to far side of Manchester (Victoria Station area) is 40 mins at 7am, 45 mins at 7:40am and 65 mins at 8:05 so really does depend what time he leaves (I go early & eat breakfast at work when dh is at home). Coming home is anything between 40 and 60 mins, this is via Princess Parkway & M56.
Knutsford, Failibrome, Wilmslow are all good secondaries but you have to make sure you live close to whichever one you want. NB - in this area you have no choice, you are very unlikely to be able to pick anything other than your 'catchment' schools.
Most primaries good and tend to have a number within fairly small distance so you could check them out to get a feel for them.
Cheadle, Cheadle Hulme, Bramhall about 10 mins closer to Manchester, but down A34. Poynton - I don't know the commuting times but think you'll need to go down the A6 which is awful (but haven't done it as regular commute though). Poynton High School also highly thought of.
Re: Grammar school - Altrincham gets best results but is also the hardest to get into. You can get into it from Wilmslow but commute is deadly so you'll need to drive.
Not sure how old your children are yet but consider living somewhere they can walk into the 'centre', makes a massive difference when they start getting old enough to go out by themselves. being able to walk to leisure centre/swimming pool is a big plus (esp in the holidays)
Lizzy thought you were further away from me!
Sick of this snow yet ???
Ooh I love a Manchester where to live thread! I have lived in a few places, central, south and east and for me its a no-brainer. Altrincham/ Hale/ Bowden/ Timperley would be top of my list simply because all are approx 25mins into Manchester city centre (non rush hour, about 40 mins if in rush hour), they have excellent local schools, convenient tram system (25mins from Alti to city centre) and great restaurants/ cafes/ bars (you would def get a fry up on a sunday morning!).
I work in Stretford and wouldnt touch it with a barge pole, went to school in Whalley Range-(ditto re barge pole)and not a huge fan of North Manchester, its not as green as south but if that's not as important to you.
Have lived in Chorlton and would do again if I was either aged 18-25, Polish or gay, to say it has an eclectic mix of people is an understatement! It is an "M" postcode too so I found insurance to be higher on house and car as higher crime rate, same with Sale.
Didsbury is nice and convenient for city but I think it is over priced and slighty poncey and you are basically paying for the "Cold Feet" style lifestyle.
Knutsford/ Wilmslow/ Alderley Edge also all nice but I think a bit too far out for a commute by car.
Can't really comment on Poynton, Bramhall, Cheadle etc as havent lived there but had plenty of friends who have and they seem pleasant places!
Good luck and keep us updated!
Oh and Altrincham/Hale/Bowdon/timperley are only 10mns from Manchester Airport and M60 ring road and about 15-20mins to M6 for South so good transport links
Doesn't seem like 5mins ago that DH told me we were moving to Manchester. After about 12 w/e of coming up to look around we settled on Wilmslow. I love it up here! Park/heath literally at the bottom of my back garden. Great schools both state and independent. We have a fab town centre with coffee bars and resturants. DH commute is just under 1h into Manchester depending on the A34.
Friends live up the road in Bramhall. That's nice too and they have a lovely park with tudor house. They also have excellent schools and a nice village centre with coffee bars and gastro pubs. We ate in one last night, it was yummy! I try to stay away from Bramhall village though as they have a chocolate shop!
I work in Cheadle Hulme which has nice houses,good schools but not much of a centre.
Didsbury is nice with a trendy village feel. Primary schools good, secondary not great. Personally, I wouldn't live in Cholton with school age children. It's hip but a bit scummy IYKWIM.
Sale/Alt/Hale all nice with grammar system schools. Hale has a nice village centre. You get more for your money in Sale or Timperley though less buzz. What I would say is make sure you know your school catchment when buying there. Maybe a better commute to Salford than my end.
Look at Worsley too. IMHO it's the only place in Salford worth looking at. Nice houses, easy commute but you may find it dull after Clapham.
The Heatons are nice too and not too far from hip Didsbury but benefitting from good Stockport schools.
I love the greenery where I am and the short walk into town for good bars etc so obv I recommend Wilmslow but it may not be to your taste or the commute may not be right. Def check us out though!
Stay South though! Oh and I did loads of research and checked out almost everywhere so any other questions,feel free!
I need to sit with my notepad and go through all your great posts.
I am so, so glad you have all replied.
Thanks everyone. I am noting it all down, highlighting it, sticking pins in maps and making spreadsheets of schools and OFSTED reports
My lot have been off school today, so have not been able to apply myself as I would have liked (or, obsession )
Just for your notes
We have 3 primaries graded outstanding in Wilmslow. The others are good. My catchment school is Gorsey bank if you want any particular info on that.
In Bramhall all the primary schools are graded outstanding. Friends children are at Pownall Green and she is very happy with it. their OFSTED was apparently amazing.
In Cheadle Hulme there is at least 2 graded outstanding,one is ranked in the top 5 primary schools nationally. Look at Hursthead OFSTED.
Trafford schools in general have a very good reputaion but the pressure for grammar entrance is intense.
BTW, if you need a postcode for your OFSTED searches, google the train station for most of these places or the council offices and use that on a wide distance search.
Oh and both Stockport and Cheshire (unsure about Trafford) produce booklets showing catchment areas which we used when looking at houses. Very useful.
Didn't realise there was a north/south divide to Manchester too! .
There are lovely places South and North.
OOh Lily, are you near me then?
Hotpot, yes, have to say when we moved up we chose North Manchester/Lancashire as that's where PIL's are from. Did investigate South Mcr but the only place I've ever been "down there" where I'd want to live is Lymm.
In all honesty Wilmslow is all fur coat and no knickers, tbh, Kerry Katona lives there
chorley fm comming in your ears.
machester is just a bit shit really, you should look towards saddleworth
Aw, don't say that Custardo! I'm struggling with it as it is
Lived in Wilmslow for 5 years when relocated from the south. I would agree in part with the "all fur and no knickers" comment - and I come from Surrey! However, would agree about the excellence of local primary schools (DSs were at Gorsey Bank)and we found that the vast majority of people were pretty normal.
I loved watching the blonde bimbos filling the boots of their Bentleys outside Sainsbury's and a South African friend of mine once commented that she had never seen so much gold outside Jo'burg.
Yes, I agree there is a bit of that in Wilmslow but they've usually popped up the road from Alderley.
Hi, Lilymaid, it was your comments that made me look at Wilmslow in the first place.
I'm from Surrey too!
Yes, there is a bit of a north/south divide and those south of the city are way too snobby about it even by my own admission.
As I said, Wilmslow may not be for you but do look at it. Also Bramhall, Didsbury and Hale. Disbury certainly the most urban but way too busy for me and although further in it was a worse commute due to local traffic.
Horses for courses really but don't be putoff by Custy. South Manchester is nothing like Oldham!
There's definitely a north/south divide in Manchester. With a good budget I'd go Bramhall, Hale or Wilmslow. Cheadle Hulme covers a huge are, can never work out where the centre of it is.
Fur coat and no knickers!?!
what's the problem with that then?
am off to primelocation to check out Wilmslow and Bramhall.
Custy is right though- saddleworth has some gorgeous parts.
Sounds like you have a lot to go on now foxsake!
I currently live in Chorlton which is generally pretty nice, especially the area near Chorlton Green/Beech Road. Lots of stuff for kids to do, close to the city centre, Mersey Valley Water Park for walks, some good primary schools and Stretford Grammar on the doorstep for when the kids get older. I echo what NorthernOne says about crime though - there has been a spate of break ins on my road over the last few weeks.
I'd also like to live in Hale, West Didsbury or Lymm, but can't afford to move at the moment.
Lots of knickers worn up here in Ramsbottom (at least I think there is!)!
Am very happy for everyone to carry on believing its grim up north of Manchester cos then we can keep our lovely hills/countryside and coffee bars free of bling and air-kissing footballers wives!
(Although a few of the wise ones do live around here).
"sn't Salford a bit, umm, shit? I mean there are apparently gated residences (I believe they call them), then boarded up squats next door. I may be stereotyping here, I read an article in the Guardian about Salford once"
Ahem.. I LIVE in Salford, excuse me!!
It's is EXACTLY how you describe it
It used to be a much nicer area.......
Gated residences are where we've had to close off the alleys between the terraced houses to stop undesirables congregating
There are a lot of houses boarded up (no squats - no-one is THAT desperate) but that is mainly because the local council compulsorily purchased loads & load of houses to make way for 'community' spaces, sold them for f*ck loads of money to Urban Splash to redevelop and sell to out-of-towners for way, way more than the local people could afford. Urban Splash didn't want all the properties and so they remain empty. The council got a HUGE grant to redevelop and refurbish these houses and no-one knows where it's gone.
The Council are still repossessing (sorry, purchasing at well below market value) houses then knocking them down and turfing over the area.
They're building a HUGE church (2 have recently closed for non-attendance)
They are closing 3 schools and amalgamating them all into a new-build one they've not built yet.......
We are saving up to move this year if we can
Hotpot, if Ohforfox does goes to the "darkside" and get all WAG with a tangoed face and air kissing, we should still invite her up t'north and show her a good time Rammy/Rossendale style.
Am thinking hotpot, real ale and pies?
We could then show her our ferrets, pigeons and whippets!
Darkside, he he, funny .
When we moved over we considered Altrincham cos we do have friends on the darkside but it was either a cardboard box in Altrincham or lovely detatched in Grimsbottom, oops I mean Ramsbottom. I've saved a fortune on spray tans too.
It was the hills that swayed me, and the fact my mum is 10 minutes away to babysit!!
Sorry ohforfox, hope you aren't getting stressed by this thread, we are only messing about
p.s I do go for days out to tatton park etc cos there are lovely places too down south (make sure am wearing my best clobber)!!
We have National Trust membership and go to Tatton, Dunham Massey, Styal Mill and one park near Stockport...near Disley, can't remember what it's called.
All very nice, I was only joking about the "darkside".
<<But it's nicer up here.....runs off....>>
Lizzy less than 5 min from you!!
We may have met and never knew our mutual dirty MN secret
Just avoid Glossop unless you are a huge fan of The League of Gentlemen <<runs away quick style>>
Sorry, couldn't help myself!
i thinking now you could be a mum on the school run
DS1 isn't at Crawshawbooth, he's catholic.
Just looked at your profile pics.
Preschool last year, our DS's are called the same name? YOur DS is a couple of years older than my DS1.
Jeez, will stop posting on sex threads now!
ooh lol glad i haven't any secrets on here
promise not to look for yours!
No,this hasn't stressed me out. Other things have, like booking a train ticket. God knows how I'm going to arrange and co-ordinate a house move to another part of the country when I can't shagging well book a train ticket!
hotpot - don't call it grimsbottom
I am getting dh to read this thread to persuade him to move there!
Wilmslow has some interesting house!
If there is any particular area of Wilmslow you are interested in let us know as we may have insider info. They are building an extension to the bypass to go round Alderley Edge so there may be some houses v near there that are priced competitively (for a reason!). Most of the areas are lovely BTW
Pownall Park and South Wilmslow are nice, popular areas which have good schools. Be careful with Handsforth and the area north of Styal Road.
Noonki's DH if you are reading this:
5 great reasons to move to Ramsbottom:
1) It ahould really be called best kept secretbottom
2) The gorgeous hills
3) The people are lovely and down to earth
4) Great schools, good pubs, restaurants
5) Its fab!!!
( It has steam trains too, the kids love it!)
There, does that help?
Agree with Hotpot Noonki,also:
Lovely park, also lots of green hills and walks (I suspect they're white at the moment!)
Great centre, very pretty and nice shops
Good transport links
Agree with good pubs and restaurants, you can have your choice of Italian/Thai/Indian/Chinese and good pub grub
Good swimming pool/gym with cheap creche facilities
Great nurseries (if you have littlies)
Why did I move from Rammy???
DP has said he'd rather not live north of Manchester but I am still insisting we look.
Berries, yes please
I am very grateful to you all. If anyone would like to share any info/tips/ or just tell me how to go about relocating, my email is laineyjbe at hotmail dot com. I wouldn't normally put my email on here but this is the one I use solely for MN purposes.
Our first trip up is in April, and we are looking to move next Summer if we get the go ahead from DPs work. If not, it'll be the following year, although I think the best time to go is when DS1 can have a couple of years of Primary school.
Do you think there is a better or good time to move children?
DP has said he'd rather not live north of Manchester but I am still insisting we look.
Berries, yes please
I am very grateful to you all. If anyone would like to share any info/tips/ or just tell me how to go about relocating, my email is laineyjbe at hotmail dot com. I wouldn't normally put my email on here but this is the one I use solely for MN purposes.
Our first trip up is in April, and we are looking to move next Summer if we get the go ahead from DPs work. If not, it'll be the following year, although I think the best time to go is when DS1 can have a couple of years of Primary school.
Do you think there is a better or good time to move children?
I would def move whilst the DCs are still at primary school if at all possible. They'll settle in so much better and it'll give you a chance to meet other local mums. Check out the local secondaries though as you may want to be in in a particular catchment and therefore choose a feeder primary.
I was talking about this thread to DH last night and he said he would say to anyone thinking of moving up here to look at Didsbury, Hale/Altrincham, Bramhall and Wilmslow. All nice but all offering something a bit different. He also said what looks a reasonable commute on paper can actually be horrendous such as the A6 or A34. So visit mid week if possible and try and check out the roads.
Oh and it's bloody cold up here but the water makes a lovely cup of tea!
Oh and don't move whilst heavily pregnant like I did!
Thanks Myredcardigan (and Mr Myredcardigan).
I was looking at Wilmslow last night and Cheadle Hulme school, but I don't think we could afford 4 lots of fees.
My email is dot co dot uk, not dot come BTW!
The villages around saddleworth are nice and not too far to commute to Salford centre. It has a little prep school up to 11 years and they admit to all the main private secondarys,
Saddleworth comes up as 'Location unknown' on Primelocation how odd! I'm looking at the website now. It does look lovely.
foxy, we have friends in Saddleworth and also in Poynton. Both lovely.
Poynton schools are good but our friend didn't get his DD into their first choice school so competition is high.
and don't forget I'm only about an hour away for meet ups
35 mins if you are in saddleworth
Only skimmed thread but hijack to wave to all fellow Rossendalians.
Good luck with the search ohforfoxsake.
do you want some links to local estate agent sites?
Saddleworth and the villages (Diggle? Is that one?) around there are beautiful, really lovely.
I moved up pre DC, so no real advice, just to come up beforehand as mush as possible to get a feel of places, where you'll feel comfy.
I know I joked about Wilmslow, it is a nice place (just really not for me).
My friend who moved up from London (again pre-DC) lives in a small vilage/hamlet near Lymm (hence my love of that area) and loves it, she was very worried about leaving London but I don't think she'd ever move now.
Her DC are going to a prep school in Hale and then hopefully Altrincham Grammar.
Blimey, Rossendale and Ramsbottom are very well represented here!
Hi Lizzy, think we've 'met' before ages ago - do you live near Clowbridge?
Just reading thread properly ohfor....
re the house in Haslingden - I live in Haslingden and while there are some nicer areas, that house is not in one of them unfortunately.
It's ok here but you could do a lot better. Ramsbottom/Holcombe both lovely and really close to Manchester so easier commute.
Irwell Vale is also lovely, a really tiny village surrounded by hills, with steam train running through it. I've no idea about the schools there though.
Hi Nanny, yes in Loveclough, near Clowbridge.
Irwell Vale is lovely, very pretty. As is Summerseat, but it is a bugger to get in and out of.
Thanks Nannyogg, but I will hold off contacting Estate Agents for now, as I don't want to get bombarded by them! But thank you for your kind offer
Am looking at Poynton now. Very good schools!
got to say i agree with your husband.
south manchester much much nicer.
bramhall is really lovely, wilmslow , didsbury, the heatons are good-well chapel and moor anyway.Gately nice too.
do you wnt me to send you a copy of the local paper? well -the stockport local paper anyway which covers bramhall/gately/ etc?
Ah yes, Cheadle Hulme School is lovely with a great reputation. I have two at independent school (and one not there yet) and one of the reasons we didn't go for CHS was that they don't offer sibling discount and we have three.
This area is very lucky to have lots of excellent state and independent schools within reach.
Poynton is nice but was a bit twee for us <sorry!>
WHere are you Myredcardigan (don't worry if you don't want to say!)
I would be very interested to see that TMMJ, yes please! We aren't really house-hunting yet, so don't go to any trouble, but please do email me
Have you a budget for house? Just want an excuse to look on rightmove.
Come on over to the 'darkside' of Hale! It's fantastic for restaurants. I live very close to the village centre and I don't regret choosing it over Knutsford, Lymm or Wilmslow. I can walk another 10 mins to Altrincham town centre (even more choice of restaurants) where there is a tram (under 30 mins) to Manchester city centre - doesn't get better than that! I researched all the state primary schools in the area and they ALL have outstanding OFSTED reports. Admittedly, I was worried (after moving late in the year that DS might not get a school place) and had him on the reserve list of one of the local prep schools. I assume that's not an option with 4 DCS! I would suggest that you rent in the area and take your time to buy - that's what we're doing. I've rarely needed to drive my car (to my surprise). It's very close to the sirport and the M6 and if you live in Hale/Bowden, you miss the worst of the horrendous peak time traffic on the M56. We discounted Wilmslow as too far a commute time wise on this fact alone although there is more housing stock to choose from. Saying that, there's certainly more on the market this year than the same time last year (when we were looking on Rightmove). Good luck with your house hunting.
I'm in Wilmslow though I'm a Surrey girl.
Selby is right, Hale is lovely. We almost bought there. Great village with the tram into Manchester. It is very expensive (though so is this bit of Wilmslow) and the housing stock is mainly Victorian and Edwardian. Wilmslow more mixed though my end is predominately 1920's/1930's detached.
Hale,like Bramhall had all outstanding schools. Most of Wilmslow's are too (but see my post below about areas to stay clear of)
I now freely admit that I was one of those southerners who thought I'd get double the house for my money oop north! Not in South Manchester. Still, as I said, I love it up here.
I've spent a couple of hours looking at Ofsted reports of secondary schools in Trafford/Stockport. Then where we are now. There is so much more on offer up there.
I'm getting a bit twitchy ... I'd kind of like to get going on this now I've started!
I'm in altrincham, schools are top notch, the town is wonderful for the kids, cinema, ice skating, and all very child friendly, trafford centre 10 mins away, hale 5 mins away, its a great place. I wouldnt live any where else in manchester, although its strictly Cheshire, dont you know!!
Wilmslow high school is excellent. (bias alert )The Stockport high schools aren't as great. Trafford secondaries are mostly excellent too. Part of Stockport's problem is the lack of 6th forms. In Stockport, kids have to leave school at 16 and go to 6th form college. Hence a huge number of parents opt for the indie schools at 11.
Even in places like Bramhall which has excellent primaries, their secondary, Bramhall high I think it is if you want to look it up isn't great. My friends there are waiting to here back from Stockport Grammar (indie school)for their son who is in Y6.
Lovely house but...As I said before, be careful with Handforth. That house is very near the bypass. You need to visit really.
IMHO, for Wilmslow, look south of the B5358.
No one has mentioned Monton, www.montonvillage.com/. Nice shops, some nice pubs and bars nearby, handy for city centre. My sister lives there. It's in Salford technically but that would make it v close to OP's DH's work. Ellesmere Park in Monton is home to Christopher Eccleston too!.
I should say, too, that we lived in Ramsbottom for a few month's last year. I agree it is a lovely place BUT IMO the commute will not be easy. I had friends who worked in Salford (Hope Hospital) and it was over an hour in rush hour. The journey into Manchester, even at a weekend, is not quick...I would have worried that the DC's were too far from the city, once they hit teenage years. And Bury is a dump. Sorry, it just is.
My home town is Wigan www.wiganworld.co.uk/- also worth a look (don't laugh). Quick rail links into Manchester and Salford and on the mainline to London Euston, v good schools, some lovely housing and well placed for the lakes, north Wales, shopping in Liverpool and Manchester.
Christopher Eccleston <drool>
Thanks Myredcardigan, I forgot that
I am getting quite frustrated with the whole thing now. Its too far off!
Wilmslow High School looks good on paper. Especially as its a Sports College and the boys in this house are big on sport.
Have sent for the details of that house as its just what I want. I can show it to DP and get his seal of approval. When it comes to the time I'm going to come up with a friend and do the viewings and shortlist a few for him to see. It honestly isn't an excuse for a few weekends away without the family
OOh, nice house Ohforfoxsake!
Honeymum, sorry, but LOL at Bury is a dump and then suggesting Wigan
Bury isn't great, but it does have a World famous market dontcha know
Other than noise, what other downsides from living so close to the by-pass? I might be being a bit stoopid asking, but is there anything else?
We live just off a really busy road at the moment, which doesn't bother us too much. Obviously the kids don't go out on their own, so their safety I guess is another reason.
I saw another fantastic house right next to the by-pass too.
But I have to stop house-hunting! Its not the right time and incredibly frustrating!
South Manchester great - lived round there for years and years when I had a job in Manchester some years back. Poynton v.nice but the trains aren't as regular into M'cr as they are from Hazel Grove (20mins rail journey to M'cr), Woodsmoor(Manchester-Buxton train line).
Marple and Marple Bridge nice and well served by rail (20 mins by train).
Bramhall and Wilmslow more expensive and IMO no nicer.
Heaton Mersey and Didsbury also good, although you're more of a drive to get out to the countryside from there.
Probably just the noise, but road noise is a thing with me. We're in a quieter bit of town with the heath/park behind our street. It takes 15min to walk into town.
That end is more difficult to get into Wilmslow town centre though you could still walk it,just need to cross busy roads.
You also need to check you're not under the flight path there, though I don't think so.
I don't know much about the schools that end. I think it's Oakdean or Oaklands or something like that. I'll try to find my AtoZ. Put the postcode of house into the Ofsted search and it will come up.
Where that house is isn't a rough area by any means. It's just not as desirable (mainly due to bypass) as some other parts so houses are cheaper take a little longer to sell etc. But you only find snootiness about Handforth from people in Wilmslow It's hardly Salford! And it is a nice house.
Oh and you could probably walk to big M&S/Tesco from there which is always handy.
Pownall Park, Wilmslow - des res area, Gorsey Bank catchment.
Yes, come up our end! You're 5min walk to an outstanding school or there's the prep at the bottom of my road. Then you can be snobby about people in Handforth!
<MRC waves to Lilymaid who convinced me to buy in that very area>
That looks quite a newish house though. Most houses up this end are 1930s.
You have Styal Country Park close by too! and Quarry Bank Mill.
And Tatton/Dunham Massey and Lyme Park
Spot the NT member!
And Tatton/Dunham Massey and Lyme Park
Spot the NT member!
Seriously Quarry Bank Mill is fab (DS's liked it, but DH loves it there)
I like that house - a lot. I looked at it the other day (online).
I don't think I'm going to need Estate Agents, with you all on the case
So, have we decided then? Wilmslow is looking favourite.
<wonders if DP needs to be part of the decision making process as MN seems to have it all in hand>
You can walk to Quarry Bank Mill in less than an hour.
Thanks for the wave Myredcardigan - the houses to the west of Priory Road (?) are newer than the ones to the east, but the situation is still very nice.
Is the lovely little tennis club still there?
Where's the tennis club? Am I being thick? Is it near the rugby club? I'm curious now.
Fox, if you buy that house you must pop round for large amounts of welcoming red wine! (I'm about 4min walk from there)Just cause I feel like I know you already!
Pownall Park LTC- though this website doesn't seem to have been updated for 4 years! Fond memories of DS2 aged 3 (now 17) dressed in whites with mini racket, at summer tennis camp.
Doh, yes, it's still here. Think it's been eclipsed somewhat by the tennis stuff at the fitness place on A34. I have seen planning notices up for it for a clubhouse or something so maybe they're going to revive it.
I work in Wilmslow
<waves to myredcardigan>
one of my colleagues lives in Handforth (near the centre). That house looks lovely Fox, I think it's near the big Tescos and not near Colshaw <pb hopes she hasn't offended anyone>
I live about 7 miles away. dh works in mcr and gets the train from Hazel Grove.
Lilymaid's house is in a nicer part. I used to jog around there
just read some more of thread and realise I live in the 'twee' area
<MRC whispers> Hi PB1! Was it me who said that? Probably. Sorry!
er, yes it was don't worry I won't hold it against you
before we moved here we looked in Sale, Alti and Bramhall as well. Never thought of Wilmslow for some reason! We settled on here cos my dad lives the other side of the Peak District.
We have lived in Mcr before but much nearer the centre, near one of the student areas.
It is nice where you are. When we were househunting we had a lovely coffee and cake in a little deli on the high street where you could sit outside. I was just looking for something a bit more urban. Though I have to admit, Wilmslow is a bit up its own bum. As someone else said, fur coat, no knickers!
Aww, that's nice Myredcardigan, thanks!
(oh, and you're on, by the way!)
Of course, finding the area is only the first step. Once I've been up and done a reccy, we can start house hunting - the fun part!
S'pose I'd better ask DP what he thinks ....
Lizzylou - Wigan is miles nicer than Bury,honest! But if OP can afford South Manchester, then I'd have to agree that would be her best bet.
Honeymum, I would never have even considered Wigan if you hadn't mentioned it, but its on the list now. Will definately check it out. Its all good! Thank you
TBH I have only been to Wigan once and it wasn't a good experience, but I think that was more to do with the company I was with!
There are some posh parts, I know.
I like Bury, don't think it's a dump at all...but then our other large town close by is Burnley, so it's very favourable in comparison . Besides, DH is a Bury native so I expect it is more familiar to me. I wouldn't want to live actually in Bury though!
I have realised that I have managed to slate almost all Northern towns on this thread, but it is very tongue in cheek. I love living up North, far better than where I'm from.
<<Digs out of her hole>>
Hapy Househunting Ohforfoxsake
It's worth a look. It depends what you are after. It's not as swish as Wilmslow that's for sure but there are lots of interesting places close by to shop and eat and v good schools, good choice of housing in semi-rural locations (try Standish or Orrell for example) and good connections to everywhere else. Straight into Salford on the train too. I would also take a look at Monton/Ellesmere Park for proximity to Manchester and lots of bang for your buck. My sister loves it there - it's very neighbourly. Secondary schools might be an issue if you can't get into the catholic comp though.
Yikes, I am from Wigan originally, family still live there and they are desparate to get out. Would not advise you to move there but maybe visit Haigh Hall for half a day!!
DH works in Manchester and commutes each day from Mid-Cheshire, have a look at some proper villages like Great Budworth, Lower Peover, Plumley, Bunbury, Cotebrook, Lower Whitley, Church Minshull, Whitegate.
Or some towns further afield but easily commutable in less than an hour like; Tarporley, Holmes Chapel, Nantwich.
Other areas worth considering; Delamere, Cuddington, Sandiway, Hartford, Sandbach, Hale, Wistaston, Malpas.
DH is from Surrey and he is right at home here, loads for kids to do, excellent schools and even better sixth forms, low crime and lots of countryside.
You are going to love it!
Thanks Honeymum and Serin!
Lots more to look at, they are going on the list.
What do you mean by a 'proper village'? Sorry, I am a city girl and only ever lived in cities. Its not a church, a pub and a post box is it? I'm not sure I could do that <sweats>
Er yes, better scratch off the proper villages then!! You would need wellies for most of them
Still check out the small towns Tarporley, Nantwich, Holmes Chapel!!
Come to Wilmslow, you know you want to!
All I will add is that there's a reason places like Wilmslow and Hale are so expensive.
In my opinion;
Wilmslow- Snooty but lovely. Great high street, excellent schools, lovely green spaces.
Hale- Beautiful housing stock, fab resturants, tram line into Manchester.
Bramhall- Excellent schools, nice park, good village centre and gastro type bars/cafes
Didsbury- Chic and hip. Where the graduates want to live when they leave uni. Nice but very busy high street. Housing stock very varied. Schools ok at primary. More trendy young professional than families though obviously families live there. Oh and it's Manchester CC so higher council tax and car insurance.
am easily swayed by promises of copious amounts of red wine Myredcardigan
Red wine + Hale = Nearly getting run over by a tram! (IME)
LOL! Perhaps a wee village is safer
I am going out in Hale on Saturday, will report back.
What I can remember, that is
Bit worried by Serin's post now though!
Just avoid red wine.
Its all pints of mild up there innit?
You cheeky mare!
Ha! Its Snakebite and black here.
Far more sophisticated
Yep, stick to Sarf Manchester, you'll be a fish out of water with your poncey black, missus
You watch out for those trams on Friday night.
And wear a coat. You northerners never wear coats on a night out. Or tights. I've seen you ....
I'll be fine in my neon pink boob tube, white stilettoes and ass skimming skirt.
Corned beef legs are the dogs round these parts dontcha know!
How's the house-hunting going? Have you done your reccy yet?
Sorry Lobsterlass, wasn't ignoring you, just checked this in my 'watched'.
No, not househunting yet. Reccy is in April, and I will most certainly resurrect this thread at the time.
I just want to get on with it!
Thanks for asking
Ohforfoxsake - are you interested in pooling info? We are thinking of moving to Manchester too! We have three dc's and our eldest will be off to secondary soon (in yr 5 now). My dh is from Manchester, we live in Surrey now and are lucky enough to have a great school and are almost crime free. So, it's going to be hard to find somewhere as idylic.
We are planning to go op and stay with PIL's at Easter and have a good look around.
Hi Magnacarta - we are going up in Easter also
Certainly up for sharing knowledge and info. Have you got any idea of the areas where you might look to live or work?
Bumping to get MagNaCartas attention!!
First reccy next week! Will report back
A bit excited, a bit nervous.
Magnacarta - are you around?
shamelessly bumping my own thread and attention seeking
How exciting! I really hope you find somewhere that fits the bill.
Have you got a shortlist?
Has anyone recommended Heaton Moor yet? All the cafes and delicatessens you could want.
My parents are about to start selling their 6 bedroom detached house 5 mins walk from a station with a 10 minute journey into Manchester Picadilly if anyone's interested
Thanks Lobsterlass and Grendlesmum Heaton Moor? What are the schools like?
We both really liked Didsbury and Chorlton, but I'm a bit unsure of the schools. The Ofsted reports aren't great. So perhaps Heaton Moor could be in the running? Would be interested in your thoughts Grendlesmum.
I am thinking Sale is a good compromise.
Altrincham is a bit in the middle, but not Timperley. From what we saw it was too suburbia.
Wilmslow is a definate fore-runner given you get more for your money in this suburbia. Very impressed with the school/
Bramhall caught my eye, and I liked it a lot. And Hale. I think they are my very top two, if we can find something in budget.
Well, it's a very long time since I was at school in Heaton Moor :-)
In terms of primary schools, Tithe Barn always had a good reputation, and I went to St Thomas' which was good.
For secondary, I went on to Stockport Grammar (independent) - another of my classmates went to Priestnall (the local comp) and we found ourselves at Cambridge together, so the schools can't be too bad .
I don't know what kind of house you're looking for, but this one is in a quiet road 2 mins from station and 10 mins from primary school:
And I've always liked the houses in this street:
That's a lovely house! But we aren't moving until next year
Noooooo! Lymm appears to have dropped off your radar.
The school there is brilliant!
Really, you liked Wilmslow and Hale???!
I'm with you Lobster, if you must do south Mcr, Lymm is where I'd go.
Seriously, good luck and have fun!
Grendelsmum, what year did you leave SGS? I went there too...
I do think Sale is a good compromise too but my heart belongs to Chorlton. I would/ will miss the tram though if/ when I move back. What schools did you look at? I think I have all the reports committed to memory and have visited most.
Has anyone mentioned Hazel Grove? really good for transport links and everything you need near by, plus there are some really lovely houses towards the outskirts Bramhall way
Hazel Grove is nice, also Disley type area, nr Lyme Park.
Can't warm to Sale /Altrincham. Can see attraction of Chorlton.
Think we are very different, but hey, we'd all be boring if we were the same
Not read the whole thread (rather long!). But we live in Cheshire and if you live on the M56 corridor then its an easy commute to Manchester. You can go on the train easily. Stay south of M56 though.
Ohforfoxsake, link to Lymm High's Ofsted report...
I left SGS in (I think?) 1995. I see the place just seems to get larger and larger - the old Kwikfix has gone...
To be honest we didn't make it to Lymm, or Knutsford, but that's not to say we won't, it just wasn't on the radar this trip. I loved Ramsbottom, but the transport links to DPs work make it tricky.
I didn't really get to grips with Altrincham or Sale, but they do tick many of the boxes with regard to education and accessibility. With two sporty boys, Wilmslow High was impressive as was Altrinchan Grammer for boys.
DP liked Handforth because of the value for money of properties, but The Paddocks made me shudder.
And I do have to say a very big THANK YOU to you all. I went very well equipped for this trip and everything on here was really useful.
Any further advice is very much appreciated
Grendals I started in 94 and left in 2001 so will have been there for one year whilst you were, think my cousin was in your year though.. They have done loads of work on it sine I left, dont think I would recognise it now. Would love to send my DCs there, but not at those prices!
OH! I love you for loving Ramsbottom
See, there are nice places North of Manchester!
Best of luck for wherever you choose
Gosh Lizzylou, we've only just met!
We're very forward oop north, you'll get used to it
You probably drove past my house - I live a short walk away from Altrincham Boys' Grammar which is actually in Hale/Bowden and not in Altrincham. Being biased, I vote for Hale over Handforth - remember, it's location, location, location! Hale has its own train station and is only a 10/15 min walk away from the Altrincham tram/train station. All the state primaries are outstanding (due to grammar system). My children are reception and preschool age now so schooling was a priority for us when we moved just over a year ago from the SW. It wasn't a hard choice - there wasn't enough housing stock in Lymm/Knutsford (you would definitely need to drive from those places)at the time and Wilmslow was just that bit too far for a commute. A lot of people I've met who live in Lymm/Knutsford drive to Hale daily for schools and playgroups as well as coffee mornings, etc. I walk everywhere since it's such a convenient location (much to my surprise). It's expensive for a reason - people are attracted to the area because all the schools are good (not just one or two).
Piccolinos in Hale is nice too
Would you be my friend Selby? <needy emoticon>
Haven't read the whole thread but glad you like it up here in't north! I grew up in Southport then moved to London for University and ended up staying 15 years. Moved back up here about 5 years ago, and after doing pretty much what you did (driving round and lots of web searching) we drove through Lymm on a sunny Sunday and fell in love with the place!
It is nowhere near as urban or 'hip' as Hale or Wilmslow, it's a village, with villagey things, surrounded by fields and bike tracks. The restaurants are good, and the bus links to Altrincham and Warrington good but TBH I can't see that there is much going on for teenagers in the village itself. The schools all have great reputations though and lots of after school activities. It's the kind of place where you know your neighbours and say hello to people in the street, but then a lot of us Northerners are weird like that!
You'd have to drive to Salford but I know loads of other people from here that drive and if he is prepared to think about it, car sharing would probably be an option. If you need train links elsewhere, Warrington is ten minutes away and is 2 hours to London etc. Plus you can be on the beach within an hour from this side of Manchester... bliss!
I felt bereaved of London for the first few years I was here - there are so many choices in London and there just aren't as many here. Also I was bemused that most of my colleagues did not go out after work, just scooted off home to family and friends. But now I wouldn't ever go back. I am sure you'll feel the same!
The beach Piffy? Where's that then? Where are you (roundabouts, don't be specific if you don't want to)
I'm now wondering if we could live near the beach ....
I don't like Lymm. It's true it has a villagey feel but there always seems to be trouble there with gangs of teeneagers coming on the bus from Partington and those places.
The high school is excellent, however.
Anywhere along the M56 is good. For Salford I'd go as far as south Warrington but not as far as Chester.
Poynton is lovely.
Oh and so is Bramhall and Knutsford.
I'd live in Hale above all other places
That's interesting Mogwai,about the teenagers. Another thing I have been considering is that the children will want to go into the City and I want them to be able to come home at the end of a night out. Although that is another 10 or so years away (I hope!)
I liked Bramhall but I think that was swayed by seeing mums and toddlers and coffee shops. And nice houses.
How the bloody hell anyone makes these decisions I just don't know!!!
Am going to log onto rightmove and check out more Hale houses!
Coming home after a teenage night out is one good thing about the Heatons - it was a fairly short (i.e. cheap) taxi ride home from the city centre, and my friends always stayed over at mine because of it.
Hale is very pricey.
You can get more for your money towards Hale Barns but some of the houses suffer from traffic noise with being close to the M56.
Have you looked at Stockton Heath? It's an area of South Warrington but very close to the M6/M56 interchange. It's handy for Chester and for the Cheshire countryside (oh how I long to live in Tarporley or Nanatwich!!).
It has loads of restaurants ranging from Piccolino's (Italian) to Loch Fyne (fish) and Pizza Express, small branches of Boots and Sainsbury's, pubs, banks etc.
I don't personally like Warrington itself but this south side is quite nice.
I can advise on schools in that area if you were interested. We don't live there but I know people who do and I have a reasonable grasp of the schools.
I always think about my DD growing up and wanting to go on a night out. I wouldn't like her to be going out in Warrington at all. Manchester seems so large for teenagers too. Lymm is a compromise. Drove through Lymm today and still can't make my mind up how I feel about it. I was with a friend who immadiately mentioned the problems with the teenagers coming in from nearby Partington (and said "Scatter" in the manner of Frank Gallagher!).
Where do you live Mogwai?
Thanks for the offer of research, we really need to make another trip up and get more of an idea. Will look at Hale Barns.
I am Poor and I live North of the City Centre , in Prestwich. I really like it here - nice architecture, tram into town, big park, good schools. We just need a Waitrose now. Although there are some lovely big houses around here if you still have a London budget .
BUT if I had the money I would be either in Altrincham, or the Heatons. I really like Chorlton and Didsbury, but am not sure about the state secondary school options in these areas.
Further south than that feels a bit too suburban for my personal taste, and a bit less diverse. Also, if you are thinking of commuting by car, I don't think I would want to be further out than that. Traffic here is awful, even by London standards and it takes me 40mins to travel about 7 miles, even though I leave a bit early to avoid the very worst of the rush. I notice loads of posters on this thread claiming very short commutes from Cheshire, but I really would want to do a dry run in the rush hour before committing to being that far out.
Anyway, wherever you end up, I'm sure you'll love it up here, once you get used to the rain.
OH the rain!
Thanks Martha, that's really helpful.
How did you find out where you wanted to be? I mean, there's such a massive choice of good areas up there. I think I have a shortlist, but then it changes. How many times did you visit before you moved? Do you have friends and family up there beforehand? In short, how is relocating done?!
Sorry, so many questions!
We are going up to have another look in August and view some properties. I will be looking in Sale/Hale/Chorlton/Didsbury/Bramhall/Cheadle/Lymm.
I loved Ramsbottom, but commute too tricky.
I also love this thread. It has been a huge help, and I am very grateful to everyone
For us a big deciding factor was the journey into town. moving from London, we didn't want to be too far out, as cheshire/lancashire proper seems more suburban than London fringe IMVHO. I suppose your first decision would be whether to move to Manchester (sale, didsbury, chorlton) or Cheshire proper (wilmslow, bramhall, lymm), as the two really do have a different feel.
We really wanted to continue living in the city. We didn't have a London budget , so our choice of areas was much more limited.
I guess if you are to be a SAHM, and your partner doesn't mind a long commute, then the world is your oyster.
Schools up here are much, much less of an issue than in London in terms of oversubscription. I would avoid Manchester LEA, but all of the outlying boroughs seem to have plenty of good options. I'm sure you already know about the Trafford Grammars, if that's your thing.
Schools are the deciding factor for us I think, and DPs commute - seems that he could be home from work in 20 minutes if we live in Didsbury <shock>.
Interesting you said you moved from Peckham, I lived around those parts (Camberwell, East Dulwich) for a fair while, and know it well
Home in 20mins? off-peak, maybe, but the rush hour traffic must be endured to be believed. even the motorways clog up here. I am more up to date on current affairs than I thought possible due to lengthy exposure to the Today programme (no CD player in car).
I don't know detailed information about Didsbury schools, but Manchester LEA is generally a bit . But if you like Didsbury, then Heaton Moor is just a few minutes down the road, but over the border into Stockport borough, where the schools are better. Priestnall in particular is very good, and sends plenty of students to Oxbridge (DH being one of them many moons ago). Heaton Moor has a nice village feel, and if you liked East Dulwich, I'm sure you'd like Heaton Moor. There's also a train station there taking you into Piccadilly in about 15mins.
That's interesting Martha. Have been looking at houses and you get a lot for the money there.
There are a few 'Heatons' are they all much the same, or do they differ at all? Heaton Moor, Heaton Chapel, Heaton Mersey - much of a muchness?
No, the Heatons are not all the same. Avoid Heaton Norris on the "wrong" side of the A6. Heaton Moor = the nicest
Thanks Tinker, I suspected as much.
Its a minefield!!!
Confusingly, some of Heaton Norris is nice (the bit on Heaton Moor border)
AND the OFSTED reports of the local schools look good.
Ooh, no - the house on Tatton Road North is facing the railway.
Surely you need this one:
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Hayfield in the Peak District is about 45 minutes from Manchester City Centre. Nice little village out in the sticks if you are looking for a more rural area - good primary school, but secondary schools are a bit hit and miss.
Aww, that link didn't work!
hello - we are also considering relocating to Manchester. But still worrying about the decision - not yet got as far as houses! Stayed with friends outside Didsbury in Stockport recently which was a great location. Walked to Didsbury high st & a large park with river & cycle tracks. All idylic & sunny - but the reality of leaving here tough. How long did you take to make your decision?
It was really made for us, Smallerclanger, with DPs work. The turning point for me was studying the OFSTED reports for here and there. There's a lot more choice up there. Then, when I started to look for what we would get for our money after selling our flat, it started to look like a really attractive proposition!
There's been a lot of really good advice on this thread Smallerclanger. My email is down there somewhere, do feel free to get in touch if you want to.
Hello again, you still looking?
Haven't been tempted towards a proper village yet?
The schools around Northwich are very good;
The Grange and Cransley are independent and the sixth form, Sir John Deanes is excellent.
There's no way one can get from Northwich to Salford in an hour in the mornings. Not after 7am anyway.
foxy, I know a lovely MNer in Didsbury who I'm sure would love to show you around
When are you moving?
oh yes we are still in London and waiting, waiting, waiting for DPs work to confirm a date. In the meantime, I continue to go round in circles...
Hi Ohforfoxsake - I posted a while ago saying that we were also looking to move to Manchester and then couldn't find the thread again. We went up to have a look around and I liked Hale best of the places we looked at. However things have changed for dh's job and I don't think we'll go now, certainly not in the near future anyway. Good luck.
Hi Magnacarta, yes I saw your post and stalked you for a while, but couldn't find you I liked Hale too. Hope all goes well with you.
Daisy, I would love to talk to her! Yes please!
Just to let you know, if you are looking at the Heatons and Disbury area, my parents put their house on the market last weekend, had 5 viewings in the first weekend, and have now had an offer in from one of those. So it does seem that in popular parts of Manchester, good houses are going quite fast. (The interesting thing was that three out of the families viewing were Heaton Moor dwellers who didn't want to move out of Heaton Moor, and one family was from Didsbury).
Ohforfoxsake - you've got a friend in Hale now! I'm still voting for Hale, Bowden or Altrincham which all border each other anyway. I think that you need to shortlist the schools in the area and then househunt for properties within catchment of your 1st choice. Academic standards are high and if this is a priority (certainly so in my case), then you need to be in Trafford which has excellent/numerous state grammars. Good Luck.
Is it lovely, Selby?
Oh please come and talk to me in RL!
laineyjbe at hotmail dot co dot uk
I would love to hear all about your move and what you think about it
I too have found this thread a fascinating read. I am from South Cheshire originally (farming) and now live in London. DH was made redundant mid Jan and we are beginning to wonder why we are in London at all - maybe we should release some cash and move to Manchester/Cheshire?!?!! School fees will be so much less - or even free - and general cost of living will be so much lower.
I'm not that familiar with North Cheshire, wouldn't want to be in Manchester city and don't fancy a long commute either. Hence I am very interested in/nosey about everyone's opinions!
Good luck to those who are a stage ahead of us and actually moving...watch this space with us...
Hi all! Just noticed this thread had been updated! How is the hunt going Fox?
I see you've narrowed down to Hale and Bramhall. Both good choices and we considered both quite seriously. Both feel urban but villagy though be careful of the chocolate shop in Bramhall! Did you see on the BBC news a few months ago that Bramhall was voted the friendliest place to live in the UK? It does have a fantastic reputation for it's primary schools but then Hale schools are good too.
I have to admit that in Wilmslow we're a bit too far out for some people whereas Hale and Bramhall both feel like the outer edge of Manchester IYKWIM.
When are you next up? Hope you're now looking forward to it rather than dreading it.
Just bumping in case you're about!
Aw, thanks Myredcardigan
Yes, I am feeling very positive about it now, and chomping at the bit to go. Hale/Bramhall/Heaton Moor/Altrincham/Sale/Lymm are on our reccy in August, when we go and hopefully look at some properties. I'm hoping it will be a defining trip for us and we will be able to focus on one or two areas.
Its still up to DPs work when we go, but sooner the better as far as I'm concerned!
Someone previously mentioned Monton/Ellesmere park. We live here. The commute to work is a doddle compared to South Manchester/ Cheshire which is a nightmarish crawl. There are beautiful houses, canals, green space, footballers, Christopher Eccleston, Corrie and Shameless stars!! nice primaries. Secondaries a bit dodgy but not all bad. Bright kids can enter the Trafford Grammar exams and there are school busses from here taking kids there, to Manchester Grammar and to Bolton School. Will add some property links later if you're interested.
Christoper Eccleston <drool>
I'm off to have a look!
Puffling, I agree if I was going to move that side of Manchester it would be Monton or Worsley. Dp used to work in Monton and at one point we looked at houses round there.
You get a lot of house for your money, that's for sure. Blimey! 7 bedrooms!
There are a few houses around at the mo that are absolutely gorgeous. Ellesmere Park is quite unusual. Beautiful avenues with huge individual houses. You whizz straight into Manchester on deserted m'way or train 2 mins away. If you need Chorlton/Didsbury for the Bohemianism, it's only a drive away.
If you do end up in South Manc./ Cheshire it is a nice bridge between London and north. You're more likely to hear southern accents there. But you will pay a premium.
My friend wants to put in an offer on this:
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It's next to lovely golf course. Ryan Giggs house faces you at other end of golf course.
My friend wants to put in an offer on this:
Hiya, glad you're looking forward to coming now. All those areas are good. If we weren't in Wilmslow, I'd go Bramhall or Hale esp with primary aged kids as the schools are all outstanding. Let us know how it goes.
Hello, I'm resurrecting this thread as we are on the market and looking at properties in Sale, Altrincham and Hale primarily. We're also looking in Bramhall and keeping an eye open for Heaton Moor.
So far we've done one day of viewings, and going up again in the new year.
What I would like to know about now is if there are any primary schools in the Trafford area which should be avoided? I'm taking the approach that you can't go too far wrong in that area, so we can look at our housing needs rather than catchment, but would really appreciate any other advice.
I might be able to help re: Trafford schools. What do you want to know?
Really just want to know if there's any to be avoided. I get the impression that they all seem to be decent. We have four children to get in by next summer.
I'm not too worried about secondary at this stage (although that has been the driving factor for choosing Trafford at the start of this process) so I'd like any opinions/experience of primary schools in the area.
Of course, any opinions on Secondary would be useful!
Interesting on what was said about Bramhall High further down, it really gave me something to go on, and seems that it has turned around again.
Hi fox, glad you're finally on the move!
I can't help you with the Trafford schools in detail though I remember most of them were good. Altrincham and Hale both good choices to live. Personally, I wasn't keen on Sale as it seemed not to have a designated village centre.
My favourite village centre was Bramhall and I remember being amazed that all the Bramhall primary schools were outstanding but we chose Wilmslow because of the house and the fact that we have beautiful parkland out the back yet it's 10min walk into the town centre.
You asked about Bramhall High School; I don't know that much about it but I know it's not as good as the primaries. I also know that they have no 6th forms in Stockport and that quite a few Bramhall kids come over our way. Wilmslow high school is excellent and as we're Cheshire LEA, we have 6th forms.
Obviously in Trafford you have a choice of going for a grammar school place or opting for the comp. It's a Y5 thing rather than a Y6 thing like the 11+ for the indie schools so bear that in mind with the age of your kids.
Keep us posted!
Hi MRC! Nice to 'see' you.
I know exactly what you mean about Sale and its town centre. It seems to straddle a main road I don't really feel as though I've got a handle on it, and I think that's why. We're spending the day there soon so I hope I'll get a better feel for it, and Altrincham and Hale. Does Brooklands have a main central area?
Bramhall was lovely but if I'm brutally honest, almost too smart for me. I worry I feel a bit 'fish out of water'. We said that's somewhere we might move to in the future. I wouldn't rule Wilmslow or Bramhall out, but if we live in Trafford it would take DP 20 minutes to get home, and we're on the right side of town of his family who live a bit further West.
Do Altrincham/Timperley/Hale have town centres?
Get thee to Saddleworth.
Villages are Greenfield,Diggle,Dobcross,Delph,Upermill and Denshaw.
Lovely countryside, good schools and some very nice property.
Timperley is very like Sale, IMO. Both nice areas but I wasn't keen. I just didn't get any sort of feeling for them but then I'm a sucker for villages with 'centres'. Timperley is almost like an addition of housing stock on the edge of Altrincham if that makes sense.
Altrincham has quite a nice, well stocked town centre. Good housing stock too although some areas much cheaper than others. I seem to remember being told not to look beyond (I think) Navigation Rd. Not sure why that has stuck in my head.
Hale has a lovely village centre and some beautiful houses just behind the village. Obviously, both Altrincham and Hale have the Metrolink which is a big plus.
I preferred Hale to Altrincham but both are very nice, affluent, family areas with good schools. Though a couple of the Sale schools also have a very good rep. One in particular (maybe brooklands?)
If you have family that way and the commute is much shorter then I'd say go for Trafford. Bramhall/Wilmslow are much further round/out so longer commute. Not necessarily nicer either; depends what you're looking for. Hale housing stock often older whereas here in Wilmslow the majority is 1930's which I like. Lots of people would always choose H/A over B/W so you're not alone.
Don't forget to check which schools can take all your kids and that in Trafford, Y5 is crucial!
What you say about Timperley rings true - we drove around and hated it, but I think that's exactly why - the housing stock. Closer to Manchester Road seems better than closer to Stockport Road (please feel free to correct me, its an assumption, every chance I'm talking out of my arse).
Ashton-on-Mersey School is possibly the high school in Brooklands? I think its one of those schools which attracts people to move specifically to that catchment. (Again, assumption).
Can you tell me more about the Year 5 thing? Is it that you apply when they are year 5, or move schools then?
I'm tempted to hedge my bets about schools because I'm quite prepared to home-school and bide my time. Saying that, if the LEA doesn't have a sibling policy, I will be stuffed.
Everlong - I will have a look, thank you.
When I say 'hated it', I should say the particular streets we saw didn't, I believe now, give us a fair representation. I can see that some of it is very densley populated and gave me a sense of 'suburbia' which I think scared me. Definately our own pre-conceptions, and very probably not fair. Which is why we are re-visiting.
Year 5 thing is just that in Trafford, the 11+ exam is held in the first couple of weeks of Y6 so all prep needs to happen the year before. I think the results are out end of Oct or beginning of Nov so all done and dusted in that first half term.
Thanks Myredcardican. That reinforces my view that now is definately the right time for us to go.
Mumsnet is great. I'd have never known about that. Thank you so much.
This thread has really helped us. Thank you to everyone who took the time to contribute, we have found it invaluable and have taken everything everyone said on board. I'd welcome any more advice/opinions/help if anyone would like to.
I've only just picked up this thread...it's been a while since I've 'clocked in'.
Mid Cheshire's the place to be . Have you considered Hartford (near Northwich)...it has a choice of private school (the Grange) or comprehensive which my eldest 2 attend.
Offs - we are in a similar position. We are moving in the next couple of months and need to be close to Altrincham grammar school as dc1 has passed the exam and we hope that she'll get a place for next year. Also moving from 'down south'.
I think we'll end up in Hale/Bowdon although tbh it's a bit our of our price range and we have concerns about being surrounded by people with porsches.
Anyway I'll probably go up in early Jan to look at houses (renting, not buying).
I've spoken to Trafford LEA.
Seems there's no school places.
Arse, arse and thrice. Arse.
Any views, opinions or experience?
Seems to have some interesting period properties, good schools. Bit closer to the city than I thought we wanted, but worth a look? Or not?
Mid-cheshire to far away from DPs work I'm afraid, but thank you Tivvy!
I know nothing of Urmston - neither I nor anyone I know has ever found reason to go there, which might be a warning sign .
have you tapped up stockport re: priestnall yet?
My parents live in Flixton, next door to Urmston. It was where I grew up. AFAIK it's still a nice area, but not at all posh. They've just done up the centre of Urmston with a new Sainsburys. It was previously a bit run down. Transport-wise it's close to the M60 and there's a very regular bus service into Manchester. It's very close to the trafford centre - perhaps too close sometimes. On the plus side it's also only 5 miles from Old Trafford! There are loads of good primary schools and it's trafford so there are selective grammar schools - Urmston Grammar has a good reputation. Trafford General (formerly Park) Hospital is very close. (It was where the NHS was born or so they claim.)
Urmston has a market that used to be huge, although it's not anything like as good as it used to be (according to my mum.) When the Trafford Centre opened, Urmston town centre really suffered, but as I said before, they've spent a lot of money regenerating it and it's become a lot busier than it was, (again according to my mum.)
Well, we're heading up for a few hours tomorrow to do some searching. 8 hours driving (please no snow!) for 3 hours viewings.
If only we could sell our place.
There's nothing new about, but we have two we really like. One is quite near the centre of sale, the other is near Sale Moor.
We like the houses, I'm not sure of the area, but I think it will be OK. I'm taking comfort from the Hale/Wimbledon Village analogy, and hoping that follows Sale/Wandsworth?
I've been lurking following your threads for a while Fox, as we have our house in Sale Moor on the market and I was looking for reasons to stay local.
All the advice you have received about Trafford schools has been backed up by colleagues with DC in school locally and we have decided to stay in Trafford if we ever manage to sell our house.
Now that you are looking at properties in Sale, I thought I should come out of the lurky shadows and offer my opinion about the area having grown up here, escaped several times and now seemingly back to stay with DP (also born and bred in Sale) and DS.
Sale town centre leaves quite a lot to be desired IMHO, the fact that quite a few episodes of Shameless were filmed there for the last series says it all for me
It does have all the basic shops you need but nowhere to go for a good coffee or meal (again IMHO)
We currently live 5 mins walk from Sale Moor village and whilst it's not very stylish or exciting I love the fact that it has an excellent butcher, 2 bakeries, a chemist and a Spar shop which is open 'til 10pm everyday and has most of the store cupboard essentials you need.
Chorlton / Didsbury / Hale and Altrincham are all less than 10 min drive away for decent coffee shops and restaurants and Brooklands and Sale tram stations will get you into Manchester city centre in 30 mins or so.
Not sure if that helps or not but reading your threads has been one of the things that helped me to decide that whilst Sale / Sale Moor may not be the most exotic place to live; convenience, schools, house prices and TBH the fact my wonderful parents live on the other side of town means we'll probably choose to stay here if we ever manage to sell our house.
I have focussed on what I consider to be the honest truths about Sale town centre but if you want to know more about the good things Sale has to offer (libraries/ sports clubs/ gardens etc) please feel free to ask
That's really interesting Montifer, thank you. And thanks for de-lurking and taking the time!
Sale Moor is (apparently) less desirable than Sale centre, so I was told (by an estate agent trying to sell me a house). Is that true?
I agree with what you say about it being 10 minutes away from somewhere decent.
Today I learnt that apparently there are plans to develop the carpark in Sale Moor into a supermarket or something. And there are a lot of old people there.
But about Shameless being filmed there!
Would you mind contacting me by email (laineyjbe at hotmail dot co dot uk). I would really value the opinion of a local!
ohforfoxsake I know of all the places of which you speak. Urmston I don't like but people who live there tend to like it very much - some good primaries and some dodgy ones. Sale is a nice place to live but it's true that the town centre is a bit rough at night. Some nice restaurants there though. Primaries v.good. Sale Moor is a bit rough generally but it depends whereabouts in Sale Moor - if on border of Sale Moor/Sale some lovely houses and some excellent primaries there also.
I have contributed a small amount to this thread in the past, the small amount is mainly because I am not familiar with all the posh areas and am better aquainted with the areas I would advise you to stay away from .
On that note, I am that you are looking at Sale Moor, I remember you focusing on Hale and Bowden and places of that ilk.
Are you back down south now?
Yes Cornsilk, it is indeed the boundry.
I like Hale, but we'd have to seriously compromise on space. I have an ongoing vision in my head of hulking great teenage boys and girls which I can't shake off. The houses we've seen are great, but would cost heaps more. DP isn't keen on Hale, and is obsessed by being near the metro (this will change when he has done 3 consecutive evenings of getting home in time for tea/bath and bed. He will wish for the hour long traffic jam he currently endures).
There's not much in the way of property there, more movement in Sale. I suspect there is a reason for that though. Unfortunatly.
Having spoken to the LEA its all a bit of a gamble anyway. You could buy in a fantastic area, next to an outstanding school and still have to send the children to a less desirable school miles away.
There is only one thing which I remain consistently sure about:
its a nightmare.
interesting spelling of unfortunately. tired fox.
I think both of your choices sound promising then. It'll be fine!
go for norwood road/kenwood road on stret/chorlton borders.M32 is postcode-ish.
in trafford for schools 5 min walk from metrolink and chorlton-longford park on your doorstep-and i'll take you for a pint.
Is it near Old Trafford?
You'd never get DP near Old Trafford he says.
But I'll take you up on that pint!
my dp holds his nose as we pass it...it's about a mile away..maybe a mile and a half...
i didn't realise how many manc mums there were-do they ever all get together or indeed are there splinter groups that do?
FWIW i had tea with Vivcliquot last week and will be attending lulabelladramas wedding in may-but i knew them before they recognised me on here!oh,and i used to work with Suwoo...
Looks like we're all getting together for a pint and a packet of pork scratchings
goodo-i am off the beer at the moment due to having an occupied uterus but you know- while i still fit through doors i am willing to leave the house...
at thesecondcoming's DP holing his nose as he drive past Old Trafford. We live in Chorlton and DH (a blue) always flicks the V's as we go past it.
Agree about moving to the Kenwood/Norwood road side of the Chorlton/Stretford border for Trafford schools. The primaries here in Chorlton are great but the high schools not so much.
Just found this thread and would like to vote for Urmston. Church Road, Queens Road, Western Road - lots of lovely big Victorian Houses. Great great primary schools. 10 min (or less train to Deansgate) then a 10 min train to Salford (my sister works at Salford Uni and does this every day - not ideal but certainly less than an hour).
The town centre has just been partially done up.. We have some great restaurants (Isinglass is fab) and we are working on the pubs (there are some lovely ones - just not very Chorlton yet - I think Urmstonians aspire for our town centre to be hip). Lots of allotments, parks, activities (have just joined "Knit and Knosh" but am erring towards the food rather than actually being able to knit). Postcode is M41
ooh, just discovered this thread. . What a relief.
We're due to move from London to Manchester because of DPs job (he'll also be in Salford). It's not until next year but I'm already having night sweats at the thought of where to look, and about schools etc.
What OhForFoxsake said about moving somewhere nice with good schools but not actually being able to get your kids into them fills me with dread. Argh.
We've been up to have a look around and pretty much decided on Trafford. I've been looking at Urmston too. Really don't fancy Didsbury (haven't the sort of budget for there anyway) and didn't like Chorlton. We're looking for somewhere cheaper (200K ish), nice schools, multi-cultural with some parks etc.
notbloodybranston I am liking the sound of Urmston. Would you say it's a cycle ride to Salford? DP is thinking of cycling when we move
Mummyisamonster - I'm wondering if we are part of the same relocation? Salford Quays?
Oh and just to say that should we be doing the same move, please don't worry about being 'outed' if you do want to come for a pint.
What goes on MN stays on MN.
I'm in Macclesfield and I used to commute to Salford.
FWIW, I used to leave at 8am to get to work for 9, and it took about an hour to get home. The commute was relatively easy, just jumped on M60.
Also very good rail links with Manchester and Salford as the Virgin trains stop here too so its not just the slow local trains which go from here.
The schools here are also universally good and think most are not oversubscribed so you would have a good chance of getting them both in the same one.
OFFS, yup, we are part of that move.
Thought you might be too reading your earlier thread. Nice to know there's someone else going through this too!
I have been so stressed about it I could barely think about it without breaking out into a cold sweat.I think need that pint!
BTW, I'm happy to be 'outed'. I need all the support I can get
I have found this thread really useful. We went up for a familiarisation trip last year, loved the city and most that we saw though not keen on Didsbury/Chorlton. Loved Ramsbottom but the commute does look tricky.
JTH, Macclesfield sounds nice. God OFFS, how do you make your mind up??
Now I'm thinking Heaton Moor and see that you have been thinking along these lines too OFFS.
I am not stalking you. Honest
To be absolutely honest, I've largely relied on strangers on a parenting forum to guide me . This thread has been incredibly useful, and I have taken every single piece of advice and looked into it. Its been an enormous help.
I agree about Ramsbottom, lovely place but wouldn't fancy the commute.
My email is further down. Please feel free to make contact and I'll help if I can.
We looked at Heaton Moor. I like it a lot.
Have you narrowed it down OFFS?
DP & I are plannng to go up this summer for a proper look/see.
I've also got to find a job alongside all of this.
This thread is gold dust. Completely invaluable. My kids have been neglected whilst I pour over every word...
Will email you too. Ta for that
Yes it's an easy cycle ride (cut through Trafford Park, past Man United and then over the ship canal and into the Quays). Anything info you need about schools etc I can do Urmston Flixton Davyhulme and a bit of Altrincham (I'm catholic and as Trafford still has the grammar school system, the nearest catholic school was Altrincham so we all got bussed out there).
Off to bed
I was on this thread earlier this year talking about places in Salford itself. We live in Monton. There's also Worsley/Roe Green. Children from round here can take the Trafford Grammar exams. There are some decent high schools.
Added bonus is speed into work and transport links.
I'm still reeling from someone saying earlier in the thread that Gatley is nice
Thanks for the info, very useful. [DP dusting down bike as I type..].
I've seen some nice looking places in Urmston, Flixton & Davyhulmer. What are the infant & primary schools like? Any to avoid??
avoid davyhulme-it's in the direction of wind for the sewage works and can be whiffy...honestly..apparently you get used to the smell but it's not one i could deal with!
are you catholic?
NO, thesecondcoming, I'm not a Catholic.
Ta for the lowdown on the whiffy factor of Davyhulme! Don't really want to be livig with the waft of shi sewage in my gills.
I would choose to live in Flixton over Urmston/Davyhulme. I don't think there are any schools to avoid necessarily but there are some I would choose over others. Depends on your dc as well. Have you enquired about places?
I don't think the smell is that bad at all in Davyhulme BTW - have never noticed on my frequent trips to the Trafford Centre!
I haven't enquired about places only because the Urmston/Flixton thang is a recent enquiry on my part.
Two DCs: eldest will be year 4 when we move, the other year 1.
Thank you very much for all of this, really helpful stuff
didsbury and chorlton are great
I felt that pockets of Didsbury and Chorlton were lovely, and DP and I really liked them, but on the whole it was a bit hit and miss (more miss for me I'm afraid) and the secondary school is huge. We friends there, but they send their children to private school, which isn't an option for us.
Are you any nearer making a choice now then?
There are 2 properties in Sale we are really interested in, one near the centre and one closer to Sale Moor. We'd be happy in either. The houses have led us to the area. I'm not entirely convinced, but it ticks a lot of our boxes, and there's simply not a choice of properties.
The houses are fabulous, the schools are great, the transport is excellent. If I run out of Greggs sausage rolls, I'll be alright
Sale is fine - the Town centre has had a lot of redevelopment lately. There's a really nice pub in Sale Town centre that is yob free and some nice restaurants. The border of Sale/Sale Moor is also really nice I think. You can always get a taxi into Hale for posh restaurants anyway! Sale is also closer to Town. Which schools are you looking at?
St Annes and Springfield are on my radar. Ringing around the schools is this weeks project.
Sale Grammar and Ashton-on-Mersey would be my top two schools, but thats a few years off yet.
And, Cornsilk, thanks for the reassurace of Sale town centre
Oh I know of people who've had kids go to them schools - excellent reports from the parents I know.
cheadle hulme and bramhall are nice areas. Some really good schools. Cheadle hulme school,stockport grammar school,bruntwood primary,bramhall high school, Hulme hall,Ladybarn primary school,Greenbank Prep school.
jason orange's brother is the geography teacher at ashton on mersey school...he's GORGEOUS...the head isn't bad either.
Sale is fine btw.
oooh I didn't know that! Is he called Mr Orange then?
he's called oliver orange (none more much bunch!)
Cheadle Hulme / Cheadle/ Bramhall are all nice. Lots of green space / access to countryside and a number of really brilliant state schools. It will be hit and miss on house prices can be expensive but plenty of people round this way work Salford area.
I live in Sale and am not a northerner by birth.
The town centre is a bit grotty but I think it's because Manchester and the Trafford Centre are so close. The town is way more middle class than you'd expect from looking at the town centre. I find the school gates really friendly and have met some good people.
Given that there are still some good restaurants there.
Also poundland etc do come in useful for school costumes etc, there's a good children's shoe shop, great butchers down in Sale Moor.
I know Springfield has a great reputation - don't know much about St Annes.
Ashton-Upon-Mersey is very very popular. If you want to get in make sure you live well within catchment.
That's good to know Diamondhead. Would it be OK to live close to the centre - one street away?
Rally intrigued as to where this street is - I know Sale very well!
one of my friends lives on Harley road which is really really central-she likes it but has no kids and is barely there.
Walton road and round there is nice-my pal Jo lives there and her 2 eldest are at Ashton on Mersey School so assume it's in catchment area.
I would go for the one nearer to Ashton on Mersey school unless your kids are very bright and likely to pass for grammar.
Which, Cornsilk, they are - of course
Sorry, I just don't want to give too much away on here for anonymitys sake. Though I'm happy for strangers on the internet to email me on the address below and spill the beans
that's not how you spell anonymity is it?
I think being right in the town centre is great, so long as you're not right next to the pubs. Be great when your dc's are teens with the tram so close.
But I would second the close to Ashton thing. The grammer's are so increasingly competitive. Even with bright kids, it's would be good to have the piece of mind that it didn't matter. People I know love Ashton, to the point where they've decided not to bother with entrance exams.
Well, two offers put in, one rejected, one 'acceptable' but not accepted.
I'm going to stop looking and concentrate on selling and my wedding. Which is 10 weeks away. Gulp.
Hello, I'm resurrecting this thread because we are hoping to move at the end of May.
The house we wanted seems to be going through.....
I saw the house twice.
I've been round the schools.
I've walked around the town centre once.
Massive leap of faith.
Not that I want to make you all feel responsible....
I went up for the day to see some schools.
Got to Picadilly. Got on the tram. Got to Sale. How bloody easy was that?!!
I'm not letting myself get too excited, but I am looking forward to it.
And I owe you all a pint
Yes I'll have a pint of gin please.
oh wow - fab news - all coming together for you!
Good luck - we're nice in the north west, you know!
not until after July 14th... (well make that 'the 24th as they let you go ten days overdue...)then i can have a pint-mmmm lovely lovely booze.
... of course if its shit you'll all know about it .....
and I'll be crying into my pint
but thank you for your warm congratulations. I am getting more excited. I'm thinking perhaps we'll be one of those rare phenomonomes [ouch! Spelling difficulty there] of a house transaction which might go smoothly and within a decent timescale.
I can dream can't I?!
ooooh, congratulations! I've watched this thread with HUGE interest, but haven't posted as would have been no help whatsoever....We are planning to move to Manchester, (probably July/Aug) and I've been using this thread as my bible!! I started looking at Bramhall, but it's sooo expensive, so Sale is currently number one! what did you think of the primary schools.....? Out of interest, why did you decide against Wilmslow/Bramhall? I'd be really interested in your views, as I think you're looking for exactly what we're looking for! We're living in France at the mo though, so can't do a big "drive around" for another few weeks, so in the meantime, rightmove and prime location are consuming my life!!
Hi there, of course I'll help. My email is somewhere, if you find it please feel free to drop me a line (I'm just being cautious putting it on too often).
We decided against Bramhall because its known as the Cheshire stockbroker belt or something. We found a fab house, liked the area, but its somewhere we might move to in 20 years time when we downsize and the children are older. We liked Wilmslow, but I think essentially we are more comfortable somewhere like Sale. Call it working class roots or whatever. Hale had too many estate agents in its town centre!
The schools are good. I spent an afternoon (literally) running around 5 primaries, all with their good points. Trafford have great schools, no places in any of them, but great schools. I met with them and I get the impression they will do as much as they can to help.
What I do know is don't start stressing about school places now. You can't do anything about it until 3 or 4 weeks before you can start. You have to be able to start within two weeks of a place being offered and accepted. There's no holding places, its a game of luck.
You can also look on Street View to take a look at Sale.
I'm really looking forward to it. I'm also dreading leaving London, but strangely the two things aren't related (in an emotional sense). Its more about swapping the old, and the sadness which goes with that, for the new, and the excitement that brings.
Shouldhavebeenaspicegirl (me too, Posh) what's bringing you to Manchester? How old are your children?
And the trams! So easy! 15 minutes into the centre of Manchester from Sale. Brilliant!
Still following your thread with interest.
Wilmslow winning for me. Sale had great schools and houses but the lack of open space wasn't for me (I live in a semi-rural village).
Bramhall is cheaper though. And the secondary school just had a good OFSTED.
Yes, Bramhall High went through a bit of a dodgy spell apparently, but is back on track.
Wilmslow is really nice, but I'm an urban fox
I work in Wilmslow, and we live around 6 miles away (not Bramhall, but close). We looked around a few areas when we were buying including Sale, where we liked the houses but it was too urban for us. Where we live now, we can see Lyme Park out the back
Pre-kids, my friends and I used to go out in Sale - some good pubs and restaurants!
Paddington, are you in Poynton or Woodford? We've been to Bramhall Hall this afternoon (what a lovely place!) and then went into Bramhall and had coffee and a wander about. Hard to judge on a Sunday afternoon but seemed okay.
I actually preferred Poynton to Bramhall but I work north of Warrington so Poynton seems to be pushing it.
We also drove through Woodford today - lovely but no facilites really - like to be able to walk to the shop.
What do you think of Bramhall/Wilmslow?
Happy to advise on life in Sale if that helps.........
Don't discount Bramhall,it's only 20 mins into Manchester on the train.
I would live there in a heartbeat ,if only for Simply Books and Toys n Tales!
and a nice children's shoe shop!
Yes, but I think the commute (by car) up the M6 might be a bit much from Bramhall?
Thanks Lilolilmanchester! Your views on the state primaries would be very welcome.
Do you live in Sale now?
Any bits to avoid? Is it OK on a Friday/Saturday night?
Worthing Park is meant to be nice. Is it?
Thanks Lilolil, really appreciate your help
Koala, we are in Poynton. We did look in Bramhall as well and liked it, but saw a house we liked here and my dad lives the other side of the Peaks, which is slightly closer to here. I do prefer Bramhall centre though. Plus it's in Greater Manchester which makes public transport cheaper. (Apparently we were given the chance to be in GM here, a while ago, but people were too snobby and said no - (prob massive generalisation there))!
I forgot to mention - I had an interview for a job near Birchwood once, which is near Warrington. The journey round the M60/M62 would have been a nightmare! So unfortunately, I'd say it's the wrong side if that's where you work. dh was offered a job on Salford quay though, he said that didn't seem too bad a drive really.
Thanks Paddington - my job is just over the Thelwall viaduct so it's useful to know you found the commute to Birchwood impossible.
I actually prefer Poynton to Bramhall, though there are some lovely houses in Bramhall.
have you seen the houses around Poynton Pool? OMG I'd need to win the lottery to ever afford one of those.
I wouldn't say the commute is impossible, I guess it depends what you'd be prepared to do - I find longish commutes a bit soul destroying! I am a bit spoilt really as I'm only in the office 3 days a week and my commute is 6/7 miles by bike!
Traffic round here can be a real mare, especially over the last couple of years as they keep doing major roadworks!
I work 2.5 days a week, though this pans out as 2 days one week and 3 days the next. In general, I work opposite days to my husband so we manage the school run between us, though I'm not sure I want to to be going out at 7.30am to avoid traffic, even if I can.
Poynton Pool - I'll have a look (and a cry at what I can't afford). I've heard the high school is good.
Oh I've just seent eh most beautiful house on Bramhall Road South. I wonder which primary school this equates to?
oooh yes there are some nice houses round there! I don't know much about primaries in Bramhall, there is one which is supposed to be especially good but I don't know the name. The high school is OK at the moment I think. Poynton High has a very good rep, and all the primaries - some are more 'academic' than others, it depends what you're looking for. I moved dd from a more academic one as it didn't suit her, but it did have ofsted outstanding!
How do you work out which are the more academic ones in Poynton? Just by Ofsted reports?
DD1 is in reception and apparently "gifted" so an academic one would be useful.
sorry, not been on here for a while. IMO the state primaries are really good in Sale, do you have any in particular in mind?
There are lots of excellent restaurants in Sale, we eat out there a lot. More nearby in Altrincham and Hale in one direction, Manchester in the other. It's pretty busy on a Fri/Sat. Is the house still going through? Whereabouts is it (roughly if you don't want to say exactly).
Koala, I went by ofsted reports and word of mouth. All schools here are fairly academic I think, but one definitely more so - I won't be too specific but it begins with W. My dd doesn't go there but some friends kids do and they are doing fine. It can be old fashioned in some ways though - they give out a lot of lines as punishment!
Its near the leisure centre Lil.
Are you in Sale?
Things are progressing, but nothing formal as yet. <twitchy>
Springfield, Temple Moor, Moorlands, St Annes, Park Road (Sale) are all on my radar.
Will you be able to hear the metro from there then OFFS??? That's the main thing I'd be thinking about.
Have heard good reports about all those primaries (tho know someone who moved a child from Springfield to Park the same year someone moved a child from Park to Springfield... down to how they suit your child i guess like anywhere else!!)
Story in local paper this week says that Worthington Primary and Templemoor Infant schools are to close and be merged with Moorlands, but to be honest, I wouldn't be too worried about that, Trafford schools on the whole are great.
Yes, am in Sale.
Yes, near the Metro
Hmm, that's interesting. Would be one big primary school.
I don't understand why Trafford are merging schools and not expanding the ones they have. They can't meet demand as it is, but choose to expand a school in Hale, where its more expensive to live.
I can't get all my children into school as it stands now. But then its irrelevant as I can't apply until we make the move.
Chances are they will be going to different schools, which won't help us settle into the local area. And I won't have a car as DP will need it to commute.
But I'll be homeschooling the youngest two as there aren't any foundation places anywhere as far as I can tell.
Its all a bit of a pisser.
oh I see, they are closing all three and building one school on the Moorlands site.
That is such a shame. I don't know about Worthington, but both the infants and junior schools were OK as they are. One of the reasons I liked them was that they were small, the children knew all the staff, and there was a real sense of closeness and pride in both of them.
Not to mention the disruption it will cause.
Such a shame to lose the lovely schools, which are obviously well loved by staff and children alike.
I shouldn't worry - I don't think they will lose what was good about those schools. You might also be zoned for Springfield? Seriously, in the area you are thinking about living, I wouldn't worry about any of the schools. Secondary a bit tougher cos selective, but the high schools are good and getting better if the children don't pass for grammar
Thanks for that information Paddington (Fox, sorry for hijacking). I'll have a look into that.
If you needed to get onto the M56 in the morning, which way would you go? Would you go to Bramhall and join the bypass that goes to Styal? Thinking of doing a dummy run after the easter hols to get an idea of the rush hour commute.
Yeah, bugger off and start your own thread
I'm delighted that this thread has been quite a help to quite a few. And I've made some lovely contacts from it too.
Now, if anyone knows of anyone who can turn round an A1 wedding table plan for 12 tables in one week at very little cost... please do share.
Bloody hell. What am I doing? Moving house and getting married at the same time?
re the table plan - we found a table planning tool online cheap, used it to do the plan, saved it to a data stick, took it to Staples and they printed it out for us on the morning of the wedding!
Koalasar - Depending where you are on Bramhall Lane South - your schools will be Nevill Road School Pownall Green ( outstanding ofsted), and possibly Ladybrook School. Pownall Green is a beacon school top 10 in stockport - primarily faith schools above it. It is always oversubscribed but there are generally a couple of spaces that go to out or catchment area. Not particulary densley populated, lots of big houses.
Nevill raod school (off bramhall lane south- close to bramhall park) or pownall green on Bramhall Lane south right near the village.
Thanks Grendelsmum. Don't suppose you have a link, please?
Stockport Council website is really useful. You can print off maps of catchment areas for each school.
thanks fox - I took your earlier tip to print the Cheshire one off (for Wilmslow) - really useful but I didn't see the Stockport one - must look again!
Koala, if I was going to the M56 from near Bramhall I'd probably go via Wilmslow. You could go via the airport, but that route will be made easier if they build the rest of the airport link road (I think there are plans, but then there have been for years)!!
What a useful thread! Table planning tools & house advice!
Can I barge in with my moving-to-Manchester quandry -
We're moving from London (Brixton-Herne Hill borders) up to Manchester. We LOVE where we live & want something similar in Manchester, but not sure it really exists... I grew up in Withington & my parents live in Didsbury now, so we want to be close to them for babysitting purposes but not too close... Thinking Chorlton. Is Levenshulme a terrible idea? What about Victoria Park? The houses look nice but the schools sound terrible.
I can't help you I'm afraid, but I can tell you that I'm not having a table plan, opting instead for 'escort cards'. (No, you don't put them in a phone box!)
Apparently our house is on a floodplain.
I HAVE NEWS!
We have exchanged contracts and move at the end of this month
And I am a married woman.
Fantastic news, congratulations on both of your events, doubly exciting
Some rather exciting news myself, since I typed the 1st paragraph of this message the estate agent rang to say the offer we put in on a house we saw yesterday has been accepted, so looks like we're on the move too
Oh Montifer! Congratulations! Where are you off to? Are you staying in the area? Email me if you want to do it off MN. But I'd love to know!
Yey! Northwards bound!
I'll bring my brolly!
IT'S NEXT WEEK!
First pints on me!
I know I haven't been on for a while but massive congratulations!
To whoever was asking about Wilmslow and Bramhall primaries. Which Wilmslow primaries are you interested in? As for Bramhall; PG, still has a very good reputation. My friends with kids there are very happy. Lots and lots of kids go from PG to indie school at 11. Queensgate also very academic. Oh and AFAIK, every one of the Bramhall schools are graded outstanding, and a few of the Poynton and Wilmslow ones too.
I can tell you lots about my local catchment primary in Wilmslow which is Gorsey Bank but of course it depends where you want.
Oh and fox, I do hope I'm still invited over to Sale for a large glass of red at some point. <drums fingers>
I seem to have been on your threads forever!
OFFS, Congratulations!!! I'm so relieved for you that its all turned out well! How very exciting!! We are nearly there, we have found 3 houses to rent, and now it all comes down to the school - redcardie, thank you for your really helpful advice, I think it was me that was asking! We now have to choose between Moss Hey, Pownall Green and Nevill Road primaries, and whichever one we choose, we will take that house. If anyone has any views/comments/thoughts on Moss Hey primary in Bramhall, I would be eternally grateful.
Just bumping to see how the big move went! (I'm myredcardigan btw)
Shouldhavebeenaspicegirl, About 95% of people would probably chose Pownall school over any other in the area. My friends are very, very happy with it. I don't really know anything about MH school or anyone who goes there, sorry. Not even quite sure where it is-Is it towards Cheadle? However, I do know that most people in Bramhall try to avoid Nevil Road school. It does not have a good reputation and part of its catchment is considered 'dodgy'. Though that doesn't always mean it's a bad school. This is just what I've heard from people i know in the area.
I'm only up the road in Wilmslow so when you move give me a shout!
DH just reminded me we looked at a house on Ogden lane or something like that which he says was in the Moss Hey catchment. If so, then it's very nice around there.
Agree re Heatons (live there myself). All the primary schools are good and the local secondary school (Priestnall) is doing v well only exceeded by the grammar schools. Speaking of which Stockport Grammar (fee paying ) and Altrincham Grammar (11+) have buses. Its a leafy area with a good sense of community with good parks and a cafe culture. Damson restaraunt is run by a mitchelin star chef. my friend had her wedding reception there lovely. There is easy communte to salford via ring road and they are building a metro link (on didsbury road near parrswood) which will be v handy for Salford. Also a direct train into piccadilly. Lots of young trendy types, family, professionals and silver surfers and the like.
Please exuse spelling cann't find my glasses.
ooh dear def should read all the posts before jumping in with my two left feet.
Been living in Sale for the last three weeks, where it has mostly been sunny (so bog off every misery-guts who told me it rains all the time in Manchester!)
Kids have been in school a week and seem to be settling in well, house is lovely, the move went really well, other parents at the school have been really friendly.
I really, really, really miss my tea and chats with my mates, but I know that its just a matter of time before that happens here.
I'm realistic enough to know that there might be a tricky time coming, for all of us, but its been a brilliant start and I owe you all a MASSIVE THANK YOU.
This thread has been a HUGE influence on the process, and I am truely grateful to you all.
I am serious about that large wine/pint BTW.
And in a very un-MN like fashion, I'd like to give you all a big smacker on the lips and say thank you (I won't do that if we meet though, I promise!) MWAH!
Just bumping one more time
I can't tell you how thoroughly grateful I am for this thread! And extremely happy for you, fox.
I am also a salford-quays-dp-relocation-mn. I've been plotting our move for yonks (big fan of the spreadsheet approach!) though we've only just got our move date - march 2011. Nice to finally get cracking after what feels like decades of boring my friends' to death with "yes we're relocating, no we don't know when".
After various reccies, we decided Chorlton was best for us. Am basing all my rightmove searches on a radius around the unicorn grocery/barbikan deli. Not that i could actually afford the weekly shop in there, but i can dream. However, we've realised we could get more space for our money a few streets north, so old trafford is where we're aiming for now. Near seymour park is a lovely house so if anyone has any info about that area I'd willingly listen.
DD turns 4 this december, so we've got to apply for primary school from london (no confirmed manc address yet) then try to work our way up the waiting list when we move. Tricky. And i'm concerned that we'll be nowhere near good secondaries, grammar or normal.
And OFFS, please keep telling me that i'll love it up there when we leave london. I'd better be able to get a fry-up on a sunday or i'll cry.
ill second lucycat.........Poynton has good schools and so does Cheadle Hulme and Bramhall. Are you after state or private schools
Sorry alypaly, think ohforfoxsake is sorted for manchester advice (see her latest post about her move to Sale) - I've hijacked her thread as I'm heading up north too. All advice welcomed!
i realised that when i carried on reading
Hi topsmart! I have been meaning to start a "Who else is relocating to manchester with the beeb?" thread, but keep chickening out. So, Hi, we're hoping to go in the summer but have not really managed to narrow down a location yet. Hopefully next year it will all seem more real and we can get on with it. BTW, we have friends near Seymour park, can recommend it.
Hi smallerclanger! How exciting. Never really posted on mn before but now am feeling inspired! I might even start a proper beeb-move thread...
Ooh I've only gone and done it.
Taken one for the team and set up a new thread - search for beeb in the Manchester local bit.
come and join me!
I found it, attempted to link this thread from that one, and realised I've completely forgotten how to do it!
Soz! Thanks for posting it smallerclanger. Have now posted link to this thread on that thread so all is now connected in helpful/confusing circular manner. From now on i shall post on the other thread!
We used to live in Bolton. As others have said, there is a bit of a north / south divide in Manchester. South Manchester is seen as the "better" area but its the same with everywhere, some nice places, some not so nice places.
The decision for us was about putting roots down and we were primarily driven by schooling. Bolton has some good primary schools but the secondary schools on the whole are pretty dire. Canon Slade is a state high school (although its church of england and you would have to attend church 3 weeks out of 4 to be considered) and the results there are very good for a state high school. Bolton School (independent) has a very good reputation and people travel quite a distance to get there. There are some lovely parts of Bolton but the town centre is awful and quite "yobbish".
We've moved to Hale - the area is so family oriented its great, everything is in walking distance, lots of pre-school/ toddler groups, children's sports etc, lovely village centre with cafes, restaurants, bars etc. It comes within Trafford and in Hale especially, all of the primary schools are outstanding. There are state grammar schools although the competition is fierce (and I mean lethal!!) but there are lots of private schools too - in fact its one of the best performing areas in the country. Obviously it comes with a price tag - you could get something for £400k (we didn't have that much) but as always, you're paying for the location so you could get more for your money elsewhere.
I would suggest areas like Hale, Altrincham, Timperley (all within Trafford) - I heard that Stretford Grammar was on "special measures" so I would avoid Stretford. There are nice parts of Urmston and that has a high performing state grammar school too. As others have suggested, Knutsford is nice too, probably cheaper than Hale but it doesn't come under Trafford for schooling (although Knutsford High School is relatively good). Bramhall is very nice (I would say its further away from Salford) but is again quite pricey.
Hope that helps
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