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The3Bears · 26/02/2015 21:43

We've just bought our first home and were having a new boiler installed next week, I'm not 100% sure on the model number etc I just know its a Valiant Combi.
The boiler that was in the house is about 30 years old and is in the kitchen, there was a water tank upstairs in the smaller bedroom, now my mother knows the plumber as its her friends husband so she's sorted this all out which I am very grateful for however we've just had a huge row because apparently this new boiler cannot go in the kitchen and will have to be installed in the smaller bedroom which was going to be my 2yo ds room because the flue has to have a space of 8ft. it still hasn't in the smaller room but it will be higher up.
Now I am no plumbing expert so I've searched the internet and cannot find one mention of this 'rule' and I do not want a boiler installed in my 2yo's room so we've had a huge row and I'm very tempted to get another plumber in to look but she would never speak to me again, can anyone tell me if this is true or not.

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D0oinMeCleanin · 26/02/2015 21:49

I had to have a boiler in the dds room, for the same reason in my last house.

My dad put together a cupboard with locking door to keep the children away from the hot pipes, with a few shelves under it to store bedding/towels in. Might be worth thinking about if you have to have it there? It looks better, is safer, extra storage and it was only small so we hardly lost much floor space to it.

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The3Bears · 26/02/2015 21:53

Ah okay so maybe she is right then, I thought she was being stubborn because she kept ranting on about us needing more kitchen storage space, I didn't explain either that the flue would come out into the passage between our house and next door and there is definitely a space of over a meter in-between.

Yes she's said about a cupboard etc but I know I sound crazy but I'm worried about him being in a room with something that can be dangerous and also the noise, he's a v light sleeper.

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FannyFifer · 26/02/2015 21:53

Pretty sure that's not correct & I would get a second opinion.

The flue wld go out kitchen wall surely. Unless you have a wall or something right up against where it would go then I think he's talking rubbish.

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PigletJohn · 26/02/2015 21:58

not from the way you've described it. You need to speak to the installer.

It is possibly to do with the distance from the flue to the boundary of your property, or maybe the position of windows.

Ask the installer.

When he has explained what the problem is, ask if a flue deflector kit would fix it. If not, ask why not. You can look up the manufacturer's instructions for the flue positioning on the installation instructions on their website. It is essential that you know what model of boiler you are paying for.

Also ask where the condensate pipe is going. If he says "outside" ask why it can't be run to a nearby indoor waste pipe, for example in the kitchen or bathroom, where it won't freeze in frosty weather and stop your boiler from working.

BTW I also suggest you look on the Vaillant website. See if they have an Approved Installer list for your area. See if your mum's chum is on it. See what guarantee they will give if an Approved Installer is used, and what guarantee they will give if not.

Use this website www.gassaferegister.co.uk/ to verify that the person who will install your boiler, whose name you know, is registered.

Finally, just for me, fill a bucket at your kitchen sink cold tap; time it; calculate how many litres per minute you get. Tell me. Also ask your mum's chum what the dynamic flow in your house is, and if the boiler he recommends will be suitable. If he says he doesn't know the dynamic flow, ask how he knows the boiler will be suitable (clue: He doesn't), and invite him to measure it before proceeding.

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PigletJohn · 26/02/2015 22:03

www.vaillant.co.uk/find-a-central-heating-installer/

I am not saying that your mum's chum is anything but a first class fellow who will do a splendid job, but I think you are entitled to make sure.

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PigletJohn · 26/02/2015 22:05
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The3Bears · 26/02/2015 22:09

Thank you PigletJohn he is on the register Ive just checked, I can't do the sink thing now as I'm actually not at the house we've not moved in yet were in the house were renting until some of the work is done at the house, I'm going to pop round to his tomorrow he lives on the same street were moving too so ill be able to speak to him properly.

There is a small window in both ours and next doors property in the passage however we've just had a new boiler installed at this house exactly the same in terms of the passage and where the boiler is and this plumber who works for our landlord installed it with no problems.

I honestly think its my mother thats told him to put it there now to be honest, she can be very interfering.

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The3Bears · 26/02/2015 22:14

Hes not on the Vaillant website though, I'm pretty sure its the Vaillant ecoTEC plus 937 I will double check in the morning when I go to the house as its already there waiting to be installed.

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PigletJohn · 26/02/2015 22:19

I suppose if your mum is paying for it, she has the final say.

However, if you are paying for it.....

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The3Bears · 26/02/2015 22:22

No it's us paying for it, just thought my mum was being helpful arranging the plumber to come round asap and get it sorted ill be arranging another plumber to go around and give us their opinion tomorrow.

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PigletJohn · 27/02/2015 00:09

Then have it where you want it, and tell mum that she can put her own boiler wherever she wants.

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MrsTaraPlumbing · 28/02/2015 14:01

All good advice from Piglet so I just wanted to reassure you.
When you get a boiler fitted you hope it is going to be a long time so get the right one fitted by a competent chap in the right place.
Worth paying a bit extra to get it right in the long run.
I would NEVER want to put a boiler in a bedroom. They take up loads of space, they can be noisy (when not working correctly. When you come to sell everyone will think that is bad and will down value your house as people wonder how much it will cost to have it moved.
IMHO The ideal place for a combi is in the kitchen or ultility!

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