Neighbours attaching things to my wall

(44 Posts)
mikeb102102 Sun 04-Aug-13 21:14:37

Hi,
We have a detached garage at the end of our garden.
Two of its walls cut into our neighbours garden forming part if the boundary to their land.
They have just screwed trellis to the walls of the garage without notifying us.
Are they allowed to do this??

echt Fri 08-Aug-14 22:16:25

My gigantic garage runs right up to the boundary and can't be accessed by me (we didn't build it). When I got to know our neighbours I was horrified to see the wall from her side was a nasty mustardy colour. Fancy looking at that every day! I was more than happy to have her paint it any colour she wanted, and to attach light trellis. I drew the line at have a massive screw put in to attach cabled to hold up a tree, though.

emilyboo2 Fri 08-Aug-14 19:13:32

i live in a gable end terrace house which my kitchen wall is facing some one else garden they have put a trailing ivy on it and to day i heard them hammering some thing to it i cannot see my wall unless i ask if i can go in to there garden to see my wall i no that they are renting it i have no details of the owner i heard that they are breaking the law doing this they have all ready damaged my fence that follows from the wall .they have not got a fence near my wall what can i do please help as i do not need any damage to my property.

EddieReadersglasses Wed 06-Aug-14 18:17:31

Jeez there are some pompous tw@ts out there.
Unfortunately we have crap neighbours on both sides to the extent that we are moving to a detached house. I never want a shared wall/boundary tw@ttery issue to deal with again

MillyMollyMama Tue 05-Aug-14 23:56:03

The wall might need planning permission. It might need building regs approval. This could run and run.

iamusuallybeingunreasonable Tue 05-Aug-14 22:53:53

Now if it was a trellis with Japanese knotweed attached I might be concerned...

burnishedsilver Tue 05-Aug-14 15:47:52

Omg, how do people get through life if a trellis can cause such distress. All the houses and sheds in my street are built on the boundary line. I have no idea if theres a trellis attached to my wall.

Did you get their permission to build your shed on the boundary line?

iamusuallybeingunreasonable Tue 05-Aug-14 11:09:29

Have you ever thought that your neighbours might not like the hideous mass of bricks that is your garage backing on to their garden - for gods sake man, get a life, they are prettying up what us essentially your eyesore but on their land, give them a break

Spearmint1 Tue 05-Aug-14 10:07:54

No I cannot get access to the two walls of the garage which protrudes into their garden.

Spearmint1 Tue 05-Aug-14 10:05:03

Its not the fact that they had applied the trellis that I would be worried about its if they would be causing damage to the brick work and /or mortar of the garage. That obviously you cannot see as ithat part of the garage is in their garden.

HoikyPoiky Tue 06-Aug-13 17:03:14

Exactly, its just about being considerate and polite. Its not difficult.

5 out of my 6 (yes 6! sad ) nieghbours are nice and considerate. One is a bit of a Victor Meldrew but its not too bad as he backs on to the very end of the garden so we can mostly ignore him... Apart from when he spray painted 'his' side of my fence and splattered a lot of dark grey paint on my shed, greenhouse and new sandstone patio. angry angry

Still five nice nieghbours out of six isn't bad going grin

Hoikey I treat people as I would wish to be treated. If it were my garage I would be pissed if they had attached something without asking me. We plan to be in this house a long so pissing off the neighbours is not top of my list, I like a quite life too much !

EasterHoliday Tue 06-Aug-13 16:15:18

the only thing that needs discussing is what they plan to grow up the trellis in case it's somethign with sucker roots that might damage the integrity of your brickwork, or if it's something that grows very woody (like clematis) which might damage any guttering.

HoikyPoiky Tue 06-Aug-13 16:12:09

You sound like a considerate neighbour HaveToWearHeels

This sound like the same issue we have. The side of next door's garage forms part or our boundry and the bottom of our garden, so the view from my kitchen is a brick wall. It is some 40 feet away but unattractive all the same.
We put up four fence posts set into our garden with 3 trellis panels in front of it. It sits about 3 inches away from the garage wall.
We were unsure what to do when we moved in and as we are in a new build and no one knew each other we played it safe.
Since then we have become good friends with our neighbours but I can imagine if we had just attached trellis to their garage they would have been mightly pissed. However if they had had a problem I would have hoped they could have just knocked the door as a not would have pissed me off even more.
All in all how much damage is the trellis actually doing ?

Ponders Mon 05-Aug-13 22:36:44

if they're anything like me, whatever they attempt to grow up the trellis will just die anyway...

Coconutty Mon 05-Aug-13 22:27:04

Jesus. I wouldn't have fallen out with them over this. I hope they don't play really loud music for years now to poss you off.

I would have thought more of you if you knocked on the door rather than putting a note through tbh.

HoikyPoiky Mon 05-Aug-13 22:23:53

Sorry, I forgot to add that I would have done the same as the OP. I would have been polite but I would have asked them to remove it.

HoikyPoiky Mon 05-Aug-13 22:22:27

The GardenLaw website makes Mumsnet look very tame. They are a snippy lot on that website grin

Potterer Mon 05-Aug-13 21:43:19

So let's pretend I am your neighbour, I get a note telling me to take down the trellis. And I am meant to then discuss what with you?

It is times like these that you pick your battles, you are now realising that there is something worse than trellis on your garage wall; it is called loud music.

For now you will rise above it but will they? What if they decide to do whatever it takes to get a response from you?

Sometimes hindsight is a wonderful thing. You should have a look at the GardenLaw website at their forum. It will show that these things can escalate and go on for years. Hopefully in your case this is over and done with. Maybe before they take down the trellis you could ask what they plan to grow up it.

Yes it is your garage wall, and yes they should have asked, but maybe they genuinely didn't know that they had to.

mikeb102102 Mon 05-Aug-13 21:16:08

Thanks for the replies.
To answer a few of the comments left:

It is not a party wall, the only party wall is the fence between our gardens.
The garage wall is a boundary.

If they had come to us to ask about putting it up we would have simply voiced our concerns about potential damp and the possibility of plants growing up into the roof space.
The fact the did not consult us and did it when they knew we were out has peeved us somewhat.

As they disappear for 2/3 days at a time we decided to just post a polite note asking that they take it down and if they wished to discuss it we were more than happy.

The man came round and stood there twitching and getting bullish about it. He then left and then decided to put music on as loud as possible (in 20 months living here we have never heard music from their house!!).

He also informed us that he building a wall around their front garden in the next week...........

I will of course rise above it all.

LookWhoTalking Mon 05-Aug-13 16:06:20

You think that's bad - my MIL's neighbours fixed their sky dish to the front of MIL's house ! It's a semi - and it's so deffo on the wrong side - by about 2ft - now he's not a nice neighbour -but then I can't stand her so I'm not going to step in !! Lol !!

Sunnyshores Mon 05-Aug-13 11:09:28

a bit annoying, but really life's too short.....

HoikyPoiky Mon 05-Aug-13 00:19:44

I would not want nieghbours to do this either and I would politely ask them to remove it. You don't know what they may grow up the trellis and while the brickwork may be ok plants growing into the roofspace may cause damage.
They can put up free standing posts and trellis within their own garden if they wish to screen your garage.

Everyone should make themselves aware of what fences or walls belong to them and whether any are party walls and if you want to do something to your nieghbours property you need to ask them.

steppemum Sun 04-Aug-13 23:00:33

I can understand the structural stuff - car port etc, but I am really surprised at the plant trellis.
As I said, in our garden it is as it was when we arrived, and I am not actually sure who the fence belongs to. (with its plants on both sides)

I think it just wouldn't occur to me that I couldn't stick a trellis on a wall/fence in my own garden.

Fortunately the other two sides are walls and they are ours, so I can stick up what I like

(just trying to imagine blank walls that I can't cover in plants and how bleak that would be)

BoneyBackJefferson Sun 04-Aug-13 22:48:22

steppemum
"So if part of the wall forming the boundary around my garden, facing into my garden is actually the back wall of a garage/shed/house, I am not allowed to touch it?"

From memory.

If its a party or shared wall then you can do pretty much what you like as its shared.

If it forms part of a boundary, that is your neighbours responsibility or on their land then you shouldn't be hanging anything from it without permission.

As an example of the second type a friend built a garage in-between his house and his neighbours, the neighbours decided to use the wall as the supporting wall for a lean to/car port. My friend was able to tell them to remove and repair the damage they had done as the wall was not their property.

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