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Wooden worktops and ceramic sinks - help!(44 Posts)
We are about to move into a new house and will need to install a new kitchen almost immediately.
It's an old cottage and we are looking at a cream painted kitchen, shaker style units, with a solid timber worktop.
The worktop is oak and beautiful, but expensive. Is it madness to install this in a house with three young children and a feckless husband?! I've read that lots of maintenance is required (this doesn't faze me, if it works) but is it inevitable that we will get black marks if we have a butler or Belfast sink fitted?
If you oil it regularly, does it still mark if the kids place a glass with condensation on it on the top and I don't get there quick enough?
I lOVE the worktop, it's a 60mm deep one and so much nicer than the granite and stone alternatives, but don't want to be weeping in twelve months over the money I have wasted if we go for it.
I am planning a similar style kitchen and there is no way I am having real wood. Your family may be better trained than mine!
DP is a farmer who is constantly in the kitchen making cups of tea, powerwashing out tea mugs and leaving tea bags all over the work top. I'm on the hunt for the best wood effect laminate...
I have solid oak worktops (cheap ones from eBay) that I oiled several times after installation - three times with silver-based specialist kitchen worktop oil (that didn't seem to create a seal or make much difference to the original finish), and twice with Danish Oil from Wickes that made it look all shiny and 'sealed'. Two years later the worktops still look great, and have no marks on them. They're starting to look a little dull, so I'm about to sand them down with a palm sander and put a coat or two more of Danish Oil on them (when I can get around to it, probably in the next year or so...).
I don't have a built-under sink and I think that using them as a drainer regularly is probably pushing it a bit (!), but I'm not particularly careful with the surfaces, and water has been left to lie on them from time to time with no ill effects. I only clean them down with soapy water, rather than chemical cleaners, and perhaps this has helped. They look great - much, much nicer than laminate alternatives - don't let the rumours of 'difficult to keep' put you off!
We have (cheap and nasty) wooden worktops that we inherited when we bought the house 9 years ago.
We have a butler's sink as well, and yes, there are black marks around the taps, and in the general sink area.
A few years ago we had the wooden worktop next to the sink replaced as it had rotted. We simply had it cut away and a piece of white granite inserted as a draining board. It works well, and looks lovely next to the sink.
If/when we replace the kitchen, I'll definitely have the same again, but with much better quality wood for the worktops.
I like the idea that we could always cut out the section around the sink in the future, if all else fails! I'm looking at the ikea dromsjo sink as it lies flush with the wall and sits a little proud of the worktop. I imagine that will protect the wood a bit more, especially if we get a ceramic or wooden drainer to sit next to it (I've seen some on eBay which look promising!) oiling and sanding doesn't worry me, nor does getting the odd mark as we're buying and old property and some character in the wood would be fitting. It's black water marks that I'm really concerned about - I think the husband can be trained but the children are more tricky! I've not seen any laminate I like as much as real wood, though we use our kitchen a lot as we are keen cooks and I worry that real wood is nice to look at but may not survive my family!
I'm in love with some 60 thick solid oak from wickes but perhaps I'm better getting something cheaper (although I get the impression the quality stuff lasts longer?) that I won't be so devastated about trashing. Anyone has any experiences of worktops express (prices are astonishing but we'd need to do the initial oiling ourselves) or barnacre?
I'm new to this and the possibilities are killing me!
Have you looked at worktopexpress online? They do a lovely prime oak thick worktop. We've got it since last year and it can take all sorts of abuse. I oiled it 3 times before installation and once after, with Tung Oil. Takes some time but has no chemicals added to speed up drying time.
We have a ceramic sink as well, a double one which goes all the way back and has a really wide edge, wide enough to put hot pots on.
Yes, I was looking at the site last night and the prices were way better than our kitchen fitter.
How much of a pain was it to do the initial oiling yourself? I somehow have a feeling that whilst I can handle the maintenance, i would get the initial oiling wrong or not do a good enough job on the cut edges.
Do worktops express supply stuff like end plates to go near cookers and moisture guards for above appliances?
I have pretty much exactly the kitchen you've described - oak worktops, cream wooden cabinets in a Shaker style and a ceramic Belfast sink. I've had the kitchen for two years and it's taken quite a hammering but still looks great.
The initial oiling was not a big deal. We've put a pretty tray underneath our draining board to protect that part of the worktop from getting drenched, but marks from leaving glasses of water etc haven't been an issue. We have made marks from leaving wet metal on the worktops (eg from rinsing out cans and leaving them on the side) - when those got numerous we simply lightly sanded down the worktops and reoiled them.
Belfast sinks are the ones that sit under, right? I love the look of these but assumed the cut edges of the wood would be vulnerable to water staining?
That's not been a problem, the water can't reach that far up before the overflow-y bit deals with it, if you see what I mean?
Don't be put off. We've gt an Ikea oak worktop that we fitted about 9 years ago. It's not perfect, there's the odd dink and stain but it looks fine to me and it has been abused mercilessly!
Did you have to oil the ikea top yourself before installing it?
We got an ikoru work top from work top express and love it! Yes we had to do the initial oiling ourselves. It took a few days as it needed a few coats and we did both sides but it wasn't particularly difficult. Kitchen was a building site anyway so any drips and mess weren't an issue. I think work top express supplied the Danish oil and some sponge brushes so we just got on with it. We recently sanded it down again and reoiled, I think it's advisable to do this every half year or so. I really like the warm look of it and your kitchen plans sound fab!
Is iroko a better option than oak, do you think? The beams in the new kitchen are dark, and the ceilings lower than elsewhere in the house so we had been planning oak but I think with a pale stone floor the iroko could work. I've heard it's more resilient than oak but doesn't sand back as well??
I've got iroko. Round the sink is fine, but cans left rinsed ready to go to the recycling have left black rings.
I've also got granite & next time I'll have all granite.
So iroko is not much safer than oak then? Sounds like we may go for the worktops express stuff in oak. That way I haven't bankrupted myself and if it blackens I can afford to get a bit o granite or marble put in around the sink.
So, the jjury is out regarding which sink is better with wood? Belfast with drainer, or butler?
I think Iroko is more hardy. I've got a similar kitchen to the one you describe; cream shaker, butlers sink (double, it's great) & wooden top. I've got granite on the island though.
Don't forget room for a decent sized built in bin.
I am going to have walnut which is tougher than oak I think, iroko isn't usually sustainable which rules it out for me.
The Domsjo sink is a good option with wood worktops, I am getting one or a steel sit on sink like this
I've got oak, has been in 2 years now and I love it. I've got a double Belfast sink and there is blackening on the drainer side but I expected that and it doesn't bother me, it would sand out if I could be bothered! The installer tidied up the sink cutout and I use this as my main prep area and use a Joseph Joseph glass worktop saver for making tea on. Otherwise it is really minimal hassle, I wipe with a damp microfibre cloth and occasionally re-oil it.
I have a maple effect worktop with a solid maple edging all around - makes it look more expensive than it was ! Our Belfast sink sits 15mm higher than the worktop - as I tend to use it as a prep area rather than washing up - as that's what my DW is for ! But on the odd occasion I do want to drain something - I have a thick chopping block with the 15mm routed out underneath - so it just sits 5cm over the side of the sink and any wetness can be wiped directly into sink that way !
Was a compromise as I have a messy family !! This way still looks good and no oiling or worrying about tea stains !!
We have a ceramic sit on 1,5 bowl sink, with drainer. The oiling is time consuming but after that you can forget about it. I slapped on the oil, wiped any excess off after 30 mins.
Polter your idea to use a glass worktop saver in your tea making area is inspired.
Am going to do this once I get my new kitchen...
I had a wooden worktop but didn't like it as it never looked clean. It also ended up with too many stains despite me looking after it really well.
If you like the 'lived in' look then oak countertops look beautiful but if you are like me, and like things just so, then I woud avoid them.
I have the same as Cinnamon. Our kitchen is now 6 years old and the only stain has been where some bleach spilt when I was cleaning the sink. I didn't notice it and so it has left a mark behind the taps. Everywhere else is fine and I have a 2 teenagers and a
messy DH who cook lots too.
Just go with what you like or you'll possible regret it.
I had thick wooden worktops from Worktop express put in about 8 weeks ago now. I had to oil them several times (but its quite fun!) but i already have several rings where mugs have been placed, and one black ring where my bf dumped a metal can when i was away for 24hrs!
They do look lovely but require constant care and non-dumping of mugs/plates etc! Have to be really careful of water splashes around the sink.
i bought a glass worktop saver and tend to dump stuff on there instead!!
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