areas of the UK that are cheap-ish for houses now but bound to go up in value? + why is Nottingham so cheap?

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allaflutter Thu 09-May-13 00:22:26

This would have to exclude South coast (Hastings and so on), and also the North proper, as I need easy access to London and other parts of the country.
Just find myself really hankering after space and a house or large maisonette, without other people living on top of you or on both sides (3 good size beds semi-detached ideally, or a flat on two top floors with loft space), having only lived and looked at flats in London and SW - I'm increasingly finding that a nice area doesn't compensate for the lack of space anymore. I think the older you get the more space you want!

The area has to be reasonably nice but not chi-chi, i.e. low crime levels and must have a train station with access to london ideally in 1hr but could stretch a bit. It also has to be quite green with nice surrounding country. Town or city. I can't do cottages or modern boxes, used to live in high ceilinged London flats.

So far I found a couple of nice looking places with cheap houses, but usually too far from London (i.e. around Harrogate - just great old houses there, small towns in SW). Or places like Abingdon in Oxon but no train station.

Well, there is Nottingham - some nice spacious period houses on rightmove, MUCH bigger than what you can get in many places. What I don't understand is why it takes so long on the train - are there plans for faster trains there? York is much faster even though further out. What's Nottingham really like? Is it likely to go up in value? Is it better than Sheffield which I know a little?

What about Stamford/Northampton to compare with Nott? In sw there is Chippenham and Swindon that are cheap but not attractive, are these places better in comparison?

I need to buy somewhere where prices are not going to drop and ideally rise as my cash income is low atm and it's important to invest well. My mum may well need to move in with me when a bit older too, so somewhere with buses a bonus. Oh and reasonably nice, friendly people a big bonus. School cattchments are not important.

If anyone is selling something like this, PM me - and maybe introduce me to a new area!
Sorry for the long saga...I'd be grateful for someone to help put an end to this frustration!

allaflutter Mon 27-May-13 18:31:20

bumping the thread after being away.
planning to visit Bedford soon smile - any more info on Letchworth, TheChurch - are there period properties as can't see any on rightmove (or they are above budget and hence don't appear)?
any other places that I could visit on the same day?
Grantham hasn;t been really suggested, Leonie, as I think it's too small and not that near London, so I didn't really look at it, maybe lacks 'life'.

Is Bedford on the right line for quick access to Derby (not daily)?

LeonieDeSainteVire Fri 17-May-13 19:27:20

Have you looked at Grantham? Don't know it at all but I know it attracts people who need to commute to London but don't want to live there.

Derby's 90 mins to London is not about to be shortened I believe. It's not great as a city - Nottingham much nicer - though I'm sure it has nice bits.

allaflutter Thu 16-May-13 23:20:36

thanks TheChurchHouse - sounds very nice, again wouldn't even know of it if you didn't mention. is it similar to Bedford - better even? I like the idea of 30 min to Camb AND London. The house is not in my taste but appreciate te space, so thanks, style-wise I really need high ceilings (red brick Victorian or Bath stone is my thing). I'm away atm so replies will be a bit short grin - it's a funny notebook for typing. Is it a pain to get westwards also (like Derby) or better, not that it's crucial.
spotty thanks - it's good but a bit too small and only front garden (I wonder what's at the back) - would rather pay more to get more, but it's almost there.

TheChurchHouse Thu 16-May-13 13:52:52

Oh, nice cafes and places to eat out, and a brilliant independent bookshop that does lovely cake too!

TheChurchHouse Thu 16-May-13 13:51:34

How about Letchworth, OP? Saw someone had mentioned Hitchin earlier-Letchworth is the next town along. On the Cambridge-London train line, so approx 30 minutes in Cambridge and Kings Cross, masses of green space, big gardens and a really nice community feel <grew up there and planning a move back!>

Nice period houses with lots of room and well inside your budget www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-36174355.html

Shopping isn't the greatest, but Hitchin, Cambridge and Welwyn are all near by smile

spotty26 Wed 15-May-13 06:56:24

Warwick Ave Bedford on Zoopla £234,995 is nice.

The Castle Road area is nice by Russell Park and the river. The High Street itself is a bit run down but isn't every uk town centre excluding the likes of Bath and Chester etc? I will just use it when I need it and hang out in the smarter bits!

allaflutter Wed 15-May-13 00:59:12

Birds, I didn't mean HS2, indeed too long to wait for that! But someone said early on in the thread that they aer improving Derby station and the trains may become a bit faster (not radically but a little would help also). Still no info in that since from anyone, so not sure how accurate was that.
Flooding is putting me off, links to the west - well aer they better from Derby, Market H or Bedford (my places on the list grin? I think probably not, sane as now I'm in SW and links to the east are 'forget it' - nearly 4 hrs to derby, so the only way - via london. It's not really a dealbreaker as I do stay in london sometimes.
Hopefully the other 3 places I'm considering don't flood! I've alwaus lived in upper floor large flats so far, so buying a house for the first time and then dealing with it flooding, fills me with dread shock! especially as atm I don't have a live-in P.
Signora I hoe you aer right that town centre doesn't flood - is that CERTAIN though? thanks for all the cafes suggestions - you know exactly what I need to hear to warm up to a place! book shops too smile.
Thank for NT/parks info, that sounds good. But I'm wobbling a bit on newark.
Any more info in Derby? what's shopping/cafes like there. Are people definitely more gentle/friendly than in manchester/birmingham grin? I find Yorks people are very relaxed and easy to get on with (generalisation).

SignoraStronza Tue 14-May-13 18:16:18

West isn't good, no - although DH can do Birmingham in an hour and a half by car he doesn't hang about though

VivaLeBeaver Tue 14-May-13 17:24:19
VivaLeBeaver Tue 14-May-13 17:22:16

Yes west is terrible. You can go up to York and then across to Manchester . I guess there you can access the west coast line.

I looked at getting a train to Birmingham once and it was going to be something like 4 hours.

ILikeBirds Tue 14-May-13 17:20:17

Derby isn't one of the proposed stops for HS2 phase2 (although that could all change) so no quicker trains on the way. The whole thing is likely to be well over a decade away so I wouldn't allow it to influence your decisions too much. The location of a house relative to the train station will have a far greater bearing on travel times than any savings made by faster trains.

One thing I would say about Newark is it can be awkward if you need to go to places west from there. North and south links are good, west not so good.

SignoraStronza Tue 14-May-13 17:06:59

Parts of the Trent do flood I think, but if you're in a town centre period property you'll be finewink .

Also, if you're interested in archeology/history they're currently investigating the possibility of a huge network of tunnels underneath the town, leading to the castle remains. All set to become very exciting to those interested in civil war history and the town could potentially be awarded heritage status.

Another nice place to eat is Rushtons bistro. Ann et Vin is good for interesting bottles of wine. It also does food/wine on site, pre-theatre tapas and hosts a jazz festival every year. Strays is a nice independent book shop and coffee shop and there are loads of other places to go for coffee and cake.

Crime - not sure as don't live there. Tolney Lane has been mentioned and is home to a permanent site. Not sure if the additional settlement is still there -they got flooded out last year and had to move onwink . I think most places have their elements though - have a look on the crime map though if you're interested.

Weather is nowhere near as cold, wet and humid as Matlock!

VivaLeBeaver Tue 14-May-13 15:19:47

There's trains every hour, prob every 30 mins in peak times so there's normally seats....but you can reserve seats online as well.

I don't know anything about the flooding. I wasn't really aware Newark floods but I don't live in the town.

allaflutter Tue 14-May-13 11:30:42

Viva, so you live near Newark too! the express train sounds just great, is it quite full usually? I'm now alarmed about flooding though - are there any areas that are immune to it, yet still within the town?

VivaLeBeaver Tue 14-May-13 06:34:28

Oh and the nt places are fab, best I've been to. If you have kids You can spend a day in the adventure playground at Belton no problem.

VivaLeBeaver Tue 14-May-13 06:33:11

I've never paid at Newark station yet and I go to London a lot. Always find somewhere free to park my car!

allaflutter Tue 14-May-13 00:00:17

yes, flooding is a point, thanks, herladyship - can you tell me which parts are not affected? if you are in a village nearby, aren't you affected?
Same with Derby - the nice area by the park is also by the river, does that flood? what do you think of Derby, if you go there too?

herladyship Mon 13-May-13 23:50:23

Outdoors there are loads of country parks & some NT places, sherwood forest, also day trip distance to peak district which we do (a lot)

herladyship Mon 13-May-13 23:48:20

Also, If you are drving in, parking at Newark station is limited & pricey

Wandastartup Mon 13-May-13 23:47:49

Spinning wheel is in Lincoln. I mentioned nice Newark places to eat-cafe bleu and Gannets. Also Caunton Beck just outside is good.

herladyship Mon 13-May-13 23:47:17

We live in a village between Lincoln & Newark

Visit London via train (for work) 4 times a year & we get the express that doesn't stop between Newark & Kings Cross (about 80 mins)

For theatre, ice skating, gigs we go to Nottingham

For nice meals, drinks, independent shops we go to Lincoln

Newark is ok for a coffee & a browse (& waitrose!)

BEWARE, When the Trent floods parts of Newark are in big trouble.. google some of the ariel pics from earlier this year, it's pretty shocking shock

allaflutter Mon 13-May-13 23:29:33

where is the wheel then - Newark or Lincoln?

allaflutter Mon 13-May-13 23:28:59

Ooo, lots of pro-Newark posters suddenly! note that it's on my list of just four, have a good feeling about it, though so far no one mention places to eat/have coffee, probably people cook a lot in their farm kitchens what with the spacious houses. I'm a fan of antiques in a big way (though not vintage clothes!).
I hope it's only a bit cooler though, some places are cold around Mids, like Matlock I think (?). NT sound quite obscure grin but doesn't mean they aren't nice!
Wanda, was that the 80s you mean?

VivaLeBeaver Mon 13-May-13 23:20:35

Spinning wheel is still there.

Wandastartup Mon 13-May-13 23:19:08

Wow! I used to like spinning wheel and the market as a pre teen for jeans with zips on( shows age...)

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