DH not allowed to read Tintin books

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At school as other children at be jealous.

FFS he hates reading (typical boy) and other than taking the sports section of the newspaper in only wants to read Tintin.

I know kids are supposed to do as they are told but forcing him turns him off even more and finally thought I had cracked it.

They are third hand after being tread by uncle and father so about 40 years old so not a sparkly new box set or anything.

Was going to try Asterix next but apparently that out of the question too!!

Sorry that DS not DH!

KatherinaMinola Fri 07-Feb-14 19:57:19

Is this during free reading? Why aren't the other children allowed to read Tintin?

Beamur Fri 07-Feb-14 19:57:32

Says who?

DaddyIsHome Fri 07-Feb-14 19:59:05

What! If thats what he reada then that is what he reads. Jealousy is natural and schools should teach how not to be jealous. This is like their plans to stop school sports being competitive because some kids might get upset being called loosers. Thats shocking!

ErrolTheDragon Fri 07-Feb-14 20:02:52

My DD didn't like reading either (its not a boy thing!) and was put off by her school reading challenges - theirs would only let them read a couple by the same author in the same year so that discouraged her from series such as Lemony snicket which she quite liked. So you have my sympathy. Once she started secondary and there was no prescription from school she started to read avidly!

I'm not sure what you can do other than to encourage him to read Tintin and Asterix to his hearts content at home and try to find something tolerable for school. Do you know what sort of books are allowed?

Yes during free reading.

Was so bloody pleased that he wanted to read rather than having to nag him.

He upstairs now reading one rather than watching a DVD, he loves them so much.

He can read anything else as long as not a 'cartoon' format apparently.

lljkk Fri 07-Feb-14 20:06:23

That's outrageous. Very daft school.
Around the start of yr2 the school was serially gushing about DD blush. How wonderful her writing & literacy skills. Blardeeblar. They couldn't tell me often enough.

She spent Oct-Jan of year 2 reading Nothing but Calvin & Hobbes books.

maillotjaune Fri 07-Feb-14 20:07:09

That's just silly. The teacher my older two boys had in reception used Thunderbirds comics as a reward for effort (they got to take the comic home for a weekend) and Y1 & 2 teachers encouraged DS1's love of Asterix and Tin Tin which he still reads in Y6.

When he was 6/7 he didn't read the whole thing but he read and that's surely the bit that matters.

KatherinaMinola Fri 07-Feb-14 20:07:13

Why not a 'cartoon' (or graphic novel...) format, though? Seriously, what is the problem?

I'd question that policy (but that's me).

KatherinaMinola Fri 07-Feb-14 20:07:58

Asterix is excellent (with a pinch of salt) for teaching Ancient World stuff.

Ubik1 Fri 07-Feb-14 20:08:47

That is ridiculous shock

ErrolTheDragon Fri 07-Feb-14 20:10:28

Well, if he's reading happily at home (sh, heresy coming up) it probably doesn't matter too much if he takes a book in and doesn't really read it.

But would be nice if he could find something else... do you have any other of his dad's and uncles old books? Maybe they could find something else they loved at that age and see if he likes it too ... obviously the way to go about this is 'oh, I'm so glad you like Tintin too, I liked this as well' with no mention at all of the school reading!

ErrolTheDragon Fri 07-Feb-14 20:12:47

>She spent Oct-Jan of year 2 reading Nothing but Calvin & Hobbes books.

Wow...brave to let a kid of Calvin's age read those! grin

frugalfuzzpig Fri 07-Feb-14 20:20:23

Oh so it's a "comic books aren't proper books" thing then? hmm

FWIW my severely dyslexic DSD got to age 15 without ever truly wanting to read. Then she discovered manga and never looked back - she's always got her nose in a book now!

frugalfuzzpig Fri 07-Feb-14 20:24:21

And if it's free reading time surely the others can take in tintin/asterix etc if they want confused

Or is it that DS is one of a minority who are at a higher level and allowed to bring their own, in which case surely a privilege of being able to choose your own is to, you know, choose your own hmm

This has rankled me. I work in a library BTW... and if anyone here likes graphic novels I can really recommend the Wizard of Oz adaptations by Eric Shanower, they are GORGEOUS.

(End hijack - sorry blush)

nobutreally Fri 07-Feb-14 20:26:03

What year is he in? From y3, both schools my kids went to had the very sensible policy that reading anything at all was to be encouraged - in fact I know the literacy spokesman talked how much kids can learn from reading the instructions on computer games smile.
I would ask them to explain exactly why the feel graphic novels are inappropriate. And maybe point them to a few contemporary classics like Persepolis (ranked #5 in the best books of the decade by Newsweek) or the gorgeous The Arrival by Shaun Tan ( that one doesn't even have any word). There's a historical snobbery about the comic format that is very unhelpful. And I write as an English literature graduate smile

ErrolTheDragon Fri 07-Feb-14 20:28:00

>Oh so it's a "comic books aren't proper books" thing then?

gah. Are the other kids are allowed to read Rainbow fairies or whatever the boy equivalent is nowadays? Tintin and Asterix are surely way better than a lot of the books churned out for kids now.

The English translations of asterix are very clever. In the original books the dog is called idéfix which means a fixed idea or obsessive which makes the translation to Dogmatix just inspired and clever on so many levels.
I don't get the problem with comics. Would picture books with the pictures and the words separated be ok?

iseenodust Fri 07-Feb-14 20:32:42

I would ask the teacher to reconsider if that is the only reason.
Some Tintin books do have old-fashioned mores. There is racism and Captain Haddock is an old soak.

nobutreally Fri 07-Feb-14 20:33:48

Oh god yes, if they accept the formulaic Rainbow Fairy shit <spits> and won't allow Asterix (ds's vocab and phonic skills were hugely enlarged by character names in Asterix...) then there is no hope for them.

And what would they say to something like this

nobutreally Fri 07-Feb-14 20:35:02

X post with Jayne

frugalfuzzpig Fri 07-Feb-14 20:36:10

Ha. Yes Errol good point. (And I would say the 'boy equivalent' is beast quest btw although apparently they are slightly less lame than rainbow fairies)

There's a lot of dodgy issues in old books - I was horrified when I read Peter Pan to DD recently - but we just talk about it. Eg we have started famous five (my old favourite!) and talked about how it's silly that they thought boys were better than girls etc

If we're talking dodgy issues then look to Biggles. I bet they would be allowed

Llareggub Fri 07-Feb-14 20:41:49

This is very bizarre.

My youngest DS is in reception and is point blank refusing to learn to read. School have cracked it by making a book out of his favourite cartoon characters and tricking him into liking it. Is your school very traditional?

columngollum Fri 07-Feb-14 20:45:35

I think some Tintin are worse than others. There are a couple of books about savages which have themes no longer seen as acceptable. But they're not all like that.

josuk Fri 07-Feb-14 20:49:55

Agree with all of the comments above. Ridiculous! Reading comics is reading too.

Also wanted to ask - have you tried Captain Underpants? While it's not 'serious' or 'a classic' - it does get reluctant boy readers to read often. Have seen it with kid after kid.

Even girls like it - mine went through a phase when she found it really funny - all while reading R.Dahl and M.Morpurgo at the same time.

mistlethrush Fri 07-Feb-14 20:50:00

Tintin has a few things that wouldn't be written now - but DS loves them.. and Asterix. We never seem to have any problem when we write them down in his reading record... We don't put the Beano down as well (although if we did we would be half way through the next reading record book...)

frugalfuzzpig Fri 07-Feb-14 20:56:49

Ooh tell you one thing that he might like - has he seen the film Hugo? The book it's based on, The Invention of Hugo Cabret, is mostly pictures, I enjoyed it. By Brian Selznick.

Not that I'm agreeing with the teacher, mind!

Ask the teacher exactly WHY he's not allowed graphic novels. I'd be interested to see what they come up with...

frugalfuzzpig Fri 07-Feb-14 20:57:49

(I mean a reason other than "because the others will be jealous" - as surely the answer to that would be to let everyone read them!)

I think it's because it's cartoon format and the others will want to read cartoon format books.

We have a fantastic village library and one in nearest town where you can order any books so no reason why anyone needs to be jealous about people reading/having certain books.

This is just another thing which is pissing me off about this teacher and think I'll have to and DH to parents evening on his own next month as may sit there sobbing or screaming at him (have PND), poor did will scare pants off him.

PollyPutTheKettle Fri 07-Feb-14 21:49:25

Is this teacher inexperienced?

It seems a very odd thing to say otherwise. I would speak to the teacher again to give them the opportunity to see sense. It can be a gentle conversation along the lines of you doing anything to get your DS interested in reading.

If that doesn't work then I would speak to the head.

lljkk Sat 08-Feb-14 09:35:56

Where does Wimpy Kid diary fall? Although the material is a bit "mature" for him.

He hates Beast Quest, has read a couple of Wimpy Kids, tried Astrosaurs, Biggles, Enid Blyton and Flat Stanley as well as Horrid Henry but Tintin are what he loves and actually picks up without being nagged.

We have the dodgy ones (the really bad ones) and have taken them away and he understands the rights and wrongs of the prejudices in them as we spoke about them when watching the cartoon adaptations.

Yes the teacher is a young man who seems to be about weak. Apparently the top popular cleverest (full of himself) little darling in the class actually makes comments out loud or suggests things and this teacher falls in with what he is saying.

I think this year I am going to end up being 'one of those mums!'

LucyBorgia Sat 08-Feb-14 10:04:04

Ah look most of us who are voracious readers got nothing but those godawful readers at school and grabbed everything else within sight at home and in the library. So encourage him with what he is interested in at home. It's a much nicer place to develop a love of reading than sandwiched in between all the distractions in the classroom. While I adored Enid and all the rest I would much rather be a child today the quality of children's books is fantastic.

mrz Sat 08-Feb-14 14:01:56

Why on earth would a teacher stop a child reading confused

pointythings Sat 08-Feb-14 15:39:34

There you go, OP. mrz has spoken and that is the last word - your DS's teacher is wrong, and you now have leave to go and be 'that' parent. grin

FWIW I also think he is wrong. You've addressed the unpalatable material in the books with your DS - that's your job done, now he should be allowed to read them.

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