Do you make your dc "work" during the holidays?

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Sunhasgothishaton Mon 15-Jul-13 20:37:30

My eldest has a presentation to prepare for September, a maths workbook to complete, and a D&T project to complete.

My youngest has got to do 30 mins (2 instruments) music practice, 15 mins theory work and 15 mins general reading to do - 5 out of 7 days.

I appear to be the only one of my RL friends who's children do work during the holidays.

Please tell me that yours do too so that I can tell my kids they aren't the only ones in the world who have to work.

MrButtercat Mon 15-Jul-13 21:11:12

Mine will be doing an hour a day.

intheshed Mon 15-Jul-13 21:20:02

Absolutely not! We might do the reading challenge at the library and DD will no doubt write a fair few princess stories and letters to the tooth fairy but that's about it... we'll be too busy hanging out in the park, visiting friends, maybe a few daytrips to the zoo or museums as well as the usual mooching in our pyjamas doing nothing much.... Can't wait grin

MirandaWest Mon 15-Jul-13 21:22:11

Mine don't.

Ladyemem Mon 15-Jul-13 21:23:16

my younger 2 (10 and 8 years) I try and encourage them to read in the holidays. My 10 year old is a little behind so i will also give him some catch up work but this will be no more than an hour a week. My 13 year old wont want to do anything.

FadedSapphire Mon 15-Jul-13 21:28:15

Will do Reading Challenge.
Maybe some postcards.

CharlotteBronteSaurus Mon 15-Jul-13 21:30:39

nothing specific
she'll read loads, but nothing improving - Rainbow Magic type stuff
we'll do a few crafty bits as well.

OldBeanbagz Mon 15-Jul-13 21:32:38

My DD has just finished Y6 so i think relaxation is in order though she will probably do some music practice.

DS has to put together a scrap book so we'll probably wait until the last week of the holidays and then panic!

FourGates Mon 15-Jul-13 21:40:31

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tumbletumble Mon 15-Jul-13 21:41:16

I'll try to read with them as much as I can. Music practice sporadically.

quip Mon 15-Jul-13 21:42:22

Every day the dcs do music practice and reading before bed. I'll let them slack off a bit with the music if they want but ds1 will want to practise. Ds2 will probably do some number puzzles. Other than that they'll be mostly poking mud with sticks and jumping on the trampoline.

fuzzpig Mon 15-Jul-13 21:44:26

I will encourage reading to me most days (DD just turned 6 and is still learning). I've got a few workbook type things as she enjoys them, and a handwriting-lined book. She also really wants to use the Squeebles spelling test app so I might put some words on there. But they'll be things I can suggest if she's bored rather than scheduled activities IYSWIM.

I have a few craft projects in mind that will tie in with stuff she's learnt this term, but they are really fun things that she would need no encouragement to do. She was very excited when I bought her a scrapbook too.

I can't wait for the holidays smile I wouldn't force her to do anything, and previous holidays have involved no work at all, but this year (just finishing yr1) she has become SO enthusiastic about learning - her teacher really is wonderful and the topics have been very inspiring - that I am looking forward to building on it/keeping the enthusiasm going IYSWIM - and it's something special for us to do together as I am often too unwell to do anything more physical. I'm sure she will mostly be running/scooting/cycling outside though!

simpson Mon 15-Jul-13 21:50:07

Both mine will read daily and write postcards, scrap books etc...

To be fair both my kids are odd because they like doing work.

DD does not like numeracy very much so to be fair we won't do that apart from playing board games, counting money etc...

Chubfuddler Mon 15-Jul-13 21:55:41

Yes. Mine doesn't have any homework but we will do some reading, maths and writing practice (he's six).

everlong Mon 15-Jul-13 21:56:29

Need to read a few books and do a review, do a diary ( only memorable occasions though ) collect leaflets from places of interest. All for school.

That will be it. Ds is going into year 3.

All 3 of mine will keep up their almost daily music practice, as that really does slip if you don't keep at it.

They all enjoy reading and will be signing up for the Summer Reading Challenge at the library.

They often keep a journal during the holidays and stick interesting things in, but that is of their own doing and not something that I give them to do.

The boys are interested in archaeology/paleontology so there will be lots of museum visits etc - do they count?

And if they want to do some maths they can work out how I'm going to afford all of the activities they want to do over the summer without selling a kidney grin

Pozzled Mon 15-Jul-13 22:10:44

I'd like to get DD1 to do a reasonable amount. But I'll try to do it as learning through play so she doesn't feel like she's working too hard. She's already excited about the reading challenge.

amotherincognito Mon 15-Jul-13 22:31:10

Can't see the problem with spending 15mins a day some days doing a bit if school type stuff to keep things ticking over. That still leaves maybe 13 hours to do other things.

Dc is planning on writing his autobiography in the holidays- no idea where this came from as I've never even mentioned the concept smile. Give his young age, I presume it won't be very long...

Cat98 Mon 15-Jul-13 22:34:03

Reading- ds is a good but reluctant reader. Someone asked us about the reading challenge at the library the other day though, I asked ds If he wanted to do it and he said yes! So we signed up. We'll see how he gets on!

Numeracy - we will do bits and bobs in the car or before bed but we do anyway - ds likes it!

Writing - this is what ds really needs to practice but he doesn't like doing it. I need to get creative or employ some bribery ;)
I won't make him do much though unless he wants to, really. He's still only little and we will be doing lots of fun things and seeing family, as well as just chilling out! He needs the break.

Bakingtins Mon 15-Jul-13 22:39:07

Summer reading challenge from the library.
10 mins a day of Komodo maths on the computer.
10 mins of music practice.

There is normally some sort of holiday project from school e.g. Make a scrapbook.

I reckon half an hour a day, not including the reading. He reads for fun and has done 2 books for the library challenge since Saturday. I'm having 6 weeks off the reading scheme books and the reading diary!

That leaves plenty of time for play, poking mud with sticks, Gromit hunting and other non-improving activities.

MidniteScribbler Tue 16-Jul-13 05:02:18

As a teacher, I say let your kids enjoy their holidays. I want them back at the end of the holidays well rested, well exercised, relaxed, and keen to get back in to learning.

The only things I encourage are to continue reading, and to try and squeeze in some interesting visits - zoo, museum, etc - where you can.

Chottie Tue 16-Jul-13 05:14:51

We used to read everyday together for about 10 mins. DD would read to DS (4.5 years between them) and we spent lots of time walking in the woods with auntie and her dog, picnics, on the beach, playing games, in the park. There was always a school project to be done (!) so we would decide what it was going to be at the beginning of the holidays and over the break, collect stuff and gradually stick it in and add writing.

GhoulWithADragonTattoo Tue 16-Jul-13 09:18:52

Mine's only 5 so we won't be doing anything specific. I'll probably read to her everyday as we do this anyway and I might get a few books from the library that she can have a go at reading too.

My DD isn't at this stage yet but I think music practice is different from other school work and does need to be kept up most days.

OP - are the projects your DCs are doing stuff set by school or stuff you've invented for them to do?

Fuzzymum1 Tue 16-Jul-13 09:22:46

Mine will read (I couldn't stop him if I tried!) and play on mathletics sometimes but as he is completely exhausted at the moment I won't be pushing him to do anything - we plan to keep a diary over the holiday but more for fun than anything.

MrButtercat Tue 16-Jul-13 09:24:49

Midnite an hour a day won't stop any child from going back well rested.

Chopstheduck Tue 16-Jul-13 09:28:29

I ask mine to do reading or some work every day regardless of holidays. I posted a similar thread about this a while ago and got quite a bit of flaming for expecting my child to do extra work!

dd (Y9 in sept) will read and probably go on some websites too for learning.

dt1 has issues with his handwriting and presentation which is affecting his work across the curriculum, so to help him we are encouraging him to keep a daily diary in his best writing. He is quiet enjoying that for now, I'm hoping it continues. He also has violin practice. I've found him a few extra pieces to learn, and he really wants to master happy birthday! He is quite happy to practice if I sit with him but not so much on his own, so I have to find the time to do that.

dt2 and ds1 will probably just do reading. ds1 is a real bookworm so doesn't really need encouraging, dt2 is academically above average, so nothing we particularly need to work on, but he does want to do the library challenge.

Chopstheduck Tue 16-Jul-13 09:29:56

We usually also cover a bit of history, geography and anything else relevant to holiday trips too. I think this year they will probably be learning about canyons, earthquakes and the US navy!

Chopstheduck Tue 16-Jul-13 09:30:51

Midnite - surely it is tough though, teaching children in sept if they haven't picked up a pen or book for the whole summer holiday?

juneau Tue 16-Jul-13 09:35:01

My DS has just finished reception and he's been given no work over the holidays at all. We've signed up for a reading challenge though, we'll be doing a bit of maths each day, and also fun educational stuff like museums and galleries.

vess Tue 16-Jul-13 09:41:20

I wish I could make them! Once or twice maybe, then it becomes a battle I cannot win.
Left to their own devices, though, they sometimes choose to do educational stuff.

curlew Tue 16-Jul-13 09:43:05

I always insist on music practice and reading for those that don't read willingly.

Dixiefish Tue 16-Jul-13 11:39:23

Reading they do anyway, but I like to do 10 mins maths revision maybe 4 days a week, and they don't seem to feel that is unreasonable. Of course in this weather the beach is more appealing grin

jamtoast12 Tue 16-Jul-13 12:40:02

Mine will do a bit of reading (as and when but aim for 3 times per week 1-1) and practise some times tables in the car etc but that's all... For me, i think they deserve a rest. Fair enough half hour a day etc is not a lot but I don't want them to feel they 'have to' as i know with mine, it'll still play on their mind everyday knowing they can't enjoy the day til its done.

Periwinkle007 Tue 16-Jul-13 12:43:35

erm I will try to get them to do some reading either every day or most days (they are 4 and 5) and hoping to do the reading challenge at the library and I would like if possible to do a bit of maths with my just finishing reception daughter as I am concerned now having read her report that she has come out after a whole year only able to do the same maths as when she went into reception so I would like to check she is happy with what she should be doing before she goes into yr1.
otherwise we have a scrapbook to stick things in on our holiday, a couple of postcards will be sent to a couple of their friends and thats it.

Bonsoir Tue 16-Jul-13 12:47:33

My DD has a very long summer holiday (9 and a half weeks).

She is spending the first four at a US summer camp, where she will only do minimal reading (in bed at night and the emails her family sends her) and writing (diary type during rest hour). I don't think that there will be any sort of maths as there aren't even shopping options!

However, she will learn all sorts of things that school fails to address at all.

insanityscratching Tue 16-Jul-13 12:48:53

Dd's a bit odd anyway (ASD) but her interests are voracious reading, writing her own books and doing maths puzzles and crosswords online. I won't need to encourage to do anything tbh she will do it all herself regardless.

Periwinkle007 Tue 16-Jul-13 12:49:21

9.5weeks? WOW. my daughter isn't even getting 6!

I always think the summer camps sound great, wonderful opportunity for development for kids.

Bonsoir Tue 16-Jul-13 12:54:30

The camp my DC go to is amazing! DD rang me yesterday and told me all about the debate the whole camp (200 campers plus staff) had attended the previous evening, which was the result of the Debating activity option the previous week. It was a pro-gun/anti-gun ownership debate, based on the Connecticut school shooting in December 2012 and using other examples. The counsellor who runs the Debating activity is an Oxford PPE graduate. I'm so happy my DD can spend her whole days doing sports and other fun stuff and still get some good solid intellectual exposure as well. Plus lots of other healthy values (no electronics, no fancy kit, sleeping in simple cabins, washing in lake water) to help the children get some perspective on the lives they lead the rest of the year.

ShadeofViolet Tue 16-Jul-13 12:55:10

We are doing the reading challenge from the local library.

Other than that, no. Summer holidays are for a different type of learning imo.

ReallyTired Tue 16-Jul-13 13:02:48

Learning is far more than what goes in the classroom. I feel that the summer holidays are a chance to develop other skills/ talents other than numeracy and literacy. Certainly my children will read/ be read to every day and ds will do music practice.

We are going to cyprus for 10 days and I am sure that the children will find the greek ruins educational. Ds is going on a royal school of church music course and dd will do a one week swimming course.

I think the summer holiday is grim for kids who parents have no money to do nice stuff. Middle class kids often blossom in the summer holiday where as working class kids side backwards more heavily.

Bonsoir Tue 16-Jul-13 13:10:35

"I think the summer holiday is grim for kids who parents have no money to do nice stuff. Middle class kids often blossom in the summer holiday where as working class kids side backwards more heavily."

I agree wholeheartedly. It's not fair. But it isn't a solution for parents who have the money to pay for extra developmental opportunities for their DC not to do so.

Periwinkle007 Tue 16-Jul-13 13:19:47

sounds a great camp. We have a week away booked staying in the UK over the holidays and hope to include nature (Eden project and evening nature walk) and also seeing how flour is made in an old working mill etc. hope to find some rock pools to investigate too as well as the Jurassic coast

ChocolatesAreTheOnlyFruit Tue 16-Jul-13 13:26:34

Since when is reading 'work'? Music practise continues for mine (when unmotivated we look at the percentage of time spent practising compared to what will be 'free' and it doesn't seem very much at all to them) and the occasional maths activities as both are not confident in maths so it would benefit them to keep it ticking over.
Big few days tidying their rooms and getting rid of all the absolute crap items no longer needed but taking up space.
Taking them on a surprise holiday at the end of the summer so that will be fun! In the meantime they are both nvlved in theatre productions and we will have a lot of sleepovers, time with cousins, days out doing things we never seem to find time for in the term and having fun. Do need to maintain some sort of routine or eldest with HFA loses it completely (and her enthusiasm for tidying far exceeds my own so while I am procrastinating like crazy to avoid the clearing out process, she is in her element!)

Xihha Tue 16-Jul-13 13:33:44

my 9 year old will probably spend at least half the holidays reading, not because i make him but because he really loves books and his school usually set a summer project, my 4 year old is doing little bits of maths and spelling, because she enjoys it and will be doing some reading. we'll probably write some postcards and do some drawing and making things as well.

As my 4 youngest brothers and sisters are still at school I think I've been roped into taking them and my kids on a few museum visits (we aren't too far from London) and possibly the sealife center if they all behave.

Other than that my 9 yr old and my little brother and sister (9 and 10) have asked me to take them fossil hunting while we are on holiday, to help them identify some coins they found and to help them with their latin (which they decided to start teaching themselves last summer). My 15 year old sister informs me she is going to teach my 4 year old some more Japanese (which i suspect she is only doing because she knows I can't speak it) and my 13 year old brother tells me he is teaching both my kids to play the recorder.

Just realised it looks like I'm pushing the kids an awful lot but they actually ask to do this stuff.

BristolJim Tue 16-Jul-13 13:52:10

Oh yes! DD has just finished year 3, and will be working throughout the summer. Music practice is non-negotiable, as is memorising her times tables. Other than that, she's got to write some short stories about whatever she wants, and do a project of her own choosing. She reads loads for fun anyway, so that's not a problem.

Nothing too strenuous. It does strike me as odd though that in a modern knowledge economy, we still give our kids 6 weeks off to help with the harvest.

Bonsoir Tue 16-Jul-13 14:13:59

Exploring is great, too. We are going to the Ile-de-Ré in August, where we will cycle, explore sites and nature and chill out. I like the DC to get lots of freedom in the holidays because poor DD, who is 8.7, cannot leave the apartment here in Paris without adult supervision at every step of the way. It's great for her to go safely to places where she can go out to the shops or for a bike ride on her own or with friends her own age.

curlew Tue 16-Jul-13 14:19:09

I'm puzzled that people are listing perfectly normal family activities under the category of "work". Surely "work" for children is specific school related activities, not fossil hunting, writing stories about princesses or going to museums?

HardlyMotherTheresa Tue 16-Jul-13 14:22:06

I don't see general reading, playing the piano or even completing a maths workbook as "being made to work" ????? Surely those things are fun? As are attending lectures, going to museums, playing games, going swimming, maths puzzles etc I would hate my DC to view intellectual; activities as chores to be got through and would be disappointed if my DC weren't doing them for pure pleasure so I am confused where you are coming from, OP.....how else do your DC fill the long days of Summer? Usually boredom will trigger book reading....

Bonsoir Tue 16-Jul-13 14:23:47

I think that general educational activities are all a form of learning, which is what children's work is - to learn.

Bonsoir Tue 16-Jul-13 14:25:11

I must say I am painfully aware that the learning that goes on at school only covers a small part of the learning spectrum to which I wish my DC to be exposed. Hence ensuring a broad range of learning and development opportunities during holidays.

JohFlow Tue 16-Jul-13 14:29:56

My son forgets basic things (e.g time times) if he does not do a bit during the holidays. There is also a motivation thing; in that if he does nothing over the break; we have abb-dabs when he has to suddenly return to routine. So I think a little does more good than harm in the situation.

curlew Tue 16-Jul-13 14:31:43

I agree, mothertheresa- apart from the maths book- that's work! As I said earlier, I do have a non reader, so I do insist on reading. But apart form that, we just do stuff. I would hate my children to look on going to a museum as "work".

AbbyR1973 Tue 16-Jul-13 14:32:11

Curlew- I'm with you... reading isn't work and there is a problem if DC's view enjoying a good book as something for school. Bedtime stories read by parents aren't work. Outings to museums aren't work either, or any other sort of day trip. All of the above are enriching but don't think they should be viewed as "work."
DS plays violin therefore practice will be encouraged but is this work or a hobby? They are going swimming on a one week course and doing football and tennis every week but these are also hobbies not "work."
So in short no "work" planned here just lots of fun grin Roll on summer hols!

fuzzpig Tue 16-Jul-13 17:26:59

I think the summer holiday is grim for kids who parents have no money to do nice stuff

I agree too. We can't really do much this holiday and I do feel The Guilt. As well as a lack of cash we also have my health to contend with - I am not able to go out and about much. Thankfully DH is only doing casual work and I work 3 short shifts a week, so we can basically manage without booking leave and still have some time all together. DH will do the stuff like park trips, walks in the woods etc that I am not up to.

I only have one 'day out' planned but thankfully despite being in central London it will be very cheap - following DD's artist topic this term we are going to swiftly tour the 4 main galleries (free!) to see her favourite paintings/sculptures, and the main costs will be the travelcard and the shuttle boat between the two Tates.

That said, DD doesn't seem to resent not going out to places all the time. Perhaps she is too young (6.1) to really know that lots of her friends are much wealthier and get to do more! It means on the odd occasion we do something, it is very memorable. But anyway, she is more than happy just milling at home and playing outside. We have new neighbours with similar age children so that's great too. And it's been an incredibly stressful school year (starting with DH having major surgery, and ending with a family funeral on the first day of the summer holidays) so a chance to relax is very welcome.

One thing we did last year was a 'science day' when my teen DSDs were staying, it was brilliant! I got loads of 'science experiments for kids' type books from the library in advance, and we did stuff like vinegar/bicarb volcano, mentos in diet coke, dying chrysanthemums with food colouring etc.

GladbagsGold Tue 16-Jul-13 17:31:15

Will only 'make' them do Reading Challenge & practising times tables.
DD will probably want to go on Bug Club as she enjoys it, plus the usual holiday activities of spending money, internet research, spending more money...

mathanxiety Tue 16-Jul-13 17:43:58

I have DD4 (almost 12) doing chores while I am out working. In return I pay her a little every week. She empties the dishwasher, hoovers bathroom and kitchen and other common areas as required, cleans the bathroom sink, and tidies up the sitting room. She also spends about an hour doing maths on a maths site.

She is free to go to the pool or the library or watch tv every day and is also free to bake something if she wants (she loves baking) as long as she cleans up properly afterwards. She does a lot of reading. Next year she will be old enough to volunteer in the library doing activities with small children.

6 weeks? About 10 in Ireland, and in the US..

The older DCs have always had a summer maths packet to complete and a book to read and annotate. This will be DD4's fate soon.

Elibean Tue 16-Jul-13 17:49:56

Occasional times tables, occasional piano practice, and each has a personal 'own goal' - in dd1's case, learning to touch type from online program - with rewards grin

Reading is just something they do regardless.

The rest is just so as not to go backwards over the long holiday.

sheridand Tue 16-Jul-13 19:37:24

Just reading, but stealth work too. Every year we get together to organise a couple of weekly activities among friends, just so they don't "forget" to write etc. Last year we made junk models, did a treasure hunt, made a map of the town and did some orienteering in the park, and made a log book of the things we found on the beach. I also always make a scrapbook of things we've done with them, with photos and a bit of writing. This is lovely to look back on, they still get them out for bedtime stories and to think about the Summer come January.

This year, I am brassic, so we will be making a puppet theatre out of boxes, makng puppets out fo junk, and staging, according to the kids, "Spirited Away". They also want to make lemonade and sell it, and have a yard sale, plenty of scope for maths there. One weeks camping by the beach.

Stealth work. I don't want to work too much either. I love my break.

pointythings Tue 16-Jul-13 20:11:39

My DDs love to read so will be doing lots of that. DD1 will be writing a book based on a big idea (it's about a 12yo girl and her dragon). We will be taking them to zoos, museums and nature reserves.

We will not be doing any kind of formal learning set by the school, though. DD2's school set something formal last year - we did it the weekend before they went back, as we would have done with standard homework.

Children need a break, I never did any school work at all when I was a child and have turned out reasonably intelligent and employable.

SirChenjin Tue 16-Jul-13 20:20:30

God no. Apart from the 2 weeks family holiday, DH and I are at work so DC3 is at a holiday club and the older 2 were when they were his age. Holidays are for playing, going on trips, meeting up with friends and generally mucking about, not school related work at primary age.

DS1 has various assignments to do over the holidays for his Higher year, but he'll spend a lot of time doing nothing. Both he and DD have chores to do while we're at work (he's currently painting the garden fence, a massive job I've put off for a long time) to earn his walking trip to the West Highland Way in a couple of weeks.

Periwinkle007 Tue 16-Jul-13 20:21:39

we tend to do free outings so lots of going to the forest to see things, beach/cliff/rock pools (if I can find some), science experiments are fantastic. One of my girls wants to know how a robot works and how a lightbulb is lit so I think we might do a basic circuit. lots of hulahooping and games etc. Our flour mill trip is free which is why I like it. free, different but still educational.

Museums and days out are just so expensive it is scary.

I don't see these things we do as work but I do see many of them as educational. playing in the garden is just fun but planting seeds and watching them grow and understanding about it all is educational as well as fun. Reading is for fun but it is still 'work' in a way. I see these as things which will extend their education and hopefully inspire their interest. The fun my girls had watching the stag beetles we have had recently in the garden was amazing.

ubik Tue 16-Jul-13 20:24:25

I ask them to tidy their bedrooms, put clothes away and dry dishes

they read anyway

they make things out of boxes

roll about on the floor together

watch too much TV, chortling away at Tom and Jerry together

they're doomed grin

noramum Tue 16-Jul-13 20:26:56

No fixed time per day apart from 5x a week violin practise. If she wouldn't do this then there is no point in re-starting lessons in September.

She will do the reading challenge and she needs to work on her letter writing so she has she choice between a diary or a research project.

We have maths workbooks which we always carry around when we are somewhere like waiting in a restaurant or in a plane to cover the waiting time.

But DH and I work so DD will be in holiday camps 4 days a week, the rest should be relaxed as possible.

She is 6 and just finished Year 1

Sunhasgothishaton Tue 16-Jul-13 20:36:35

Answering a couple of questions asked:

1) The elder's is work set by the school
2) The younger is music set by the teachers and the school have given them a reading list to complete.

Reading is seen as a chore in this house unfortunately, despite me being a complete bookworm, my kids are dyslexic and struggle with the reading.

Music is a funny one in this house as term time practice is completed without a murmur of complaint and hours are put in each night, the minute the holidays start music becomes a battle.

All the other stuff that people mention, holidays, activities, museums, outings take place.

We are another lot with the pleasure of 9.5 weeks to fill!!!

mummy1973 Tue 16-Jul-13 20:47:36

ubik...are you in my house in the hols? Doomed too!

Periwinkle007 Tue 16-Jul-13 20:54:40

http://www.archaeologyfestival.org.uk/
this might interest some - you can find things near you

Periwinkle007 Tue 16-Jul-13 20:55:26

I would much prefer our holidays to be longer. I like the holidays even if the kids do drive me nuts. under 6 weeks isn't enough IMO

DS is just finishing reception and I'm not sure what homework will be set yet. We'll definitely do some reading for fun, and the summer reading challenge at the library. I might take a look at maths websites/games to keep his brain ticking over as he finds it fun. confused He loved the cbeebies website last year, but has grown out of that now.

We've got a few field trips planned, at his request, including plane spotting at the local airport and watching his parents giving blood.

MidniteScribbler Wed 17-Jul-13 05:29:21

surely it is tough though, teaching children in sept if they haven't picked up a pen or book for the whole summer holiday?

Reading a book, or using writing in your everyday life are not work. It's just life. I would be very surprised if any student had not read over the holidays.

Education is not always about 'book learning'. Kids learn about weights and measures by helping their parent bake a cake. They learn about tides by going to the beach. Children are constantly learning. It doesn't need to be sitting down at the table and doing worksheets (which have pretty much zero educational value anyway).

And no, I have no problems with students that have been required to do any sort of formal school work over the holidays when they return. They are generally quite eager to get back in the classroom, see their friends and start working again by then.

CorrieDale Wed 17-Jul-13 06:06:21

They both want to do the reading challenge (not really work) and 8yo DS needs to revise times tables (definitely work!). DD can start learning them at the same time.

Writing practice for DS who has huge problems with his writing and for him to have 5 weeks without doing any would impact badly on his y4. We will probably do the speed up! Programme with him. He could also do with learning to touch type because of the writing problems but that will probably have to wait until next summer.

Not including reading, they'll do about 30 mins a day except for the 2 weeks we're away in holiday. Hardly onerous (I am aware they would disagree with this!)

hopingforbest Wed 17-Jul-13 08:00:12

We went camping last weekend and left school early. I said to the teacher (who I love) 'I hope you don't mind?' and she said 'The more experiences the better! if they don't have experiences what are they going to write about?"

That's my attitude to play - the school holidays - life.

I ABSOLUTELY hate the way play and joy is being taken out of schools and I will resist for as long as possible it being taken out of our free time as well (no homework here).

fuzzpig Wed 17-Jul-13 15:08:42

I can't comment on any other school but my DD's school is definitely full of play and joy smile I just found out the year 2 topic for September "storms and shipwrecks" and DD is really excited. When they set topics, they give out sheets in advance for children and parents to write down any ideas for activities, related things they would like to learn about etc (from DD "how do thunder and lightning work?")

Mind you my best mate who is a reception teacher in another county has to set frequent homework, even for holidays, because the parents complained when the school didn't set any.

DD had none in yrR except reading, and in yr1 has only had one piece every fortnight (although in reality it was less often, not sure if that was intentional!) and that felt about right - DD really enjoyed it all and only 2 pieces throughout the whole year were worksheet type things.

DS1: catching up on the German & Latin vocabulary from the past year that he should have learned for his exams in June. Piano practice. Science revision for assessments in September.

DS2: nothing. Wants to start teaching himself the clarinet though.

DD & DS3: flute/drum practice, speed drills of their multiplication facts (at the request of their teacher, as this is starting to hold them back at school). Summer reading challenge (but they think of that as fun rather than work).

tutington Wed 17-Jul-13 21:58:41

Reading books (she loves it), writing a vacation diary (assignment from school - once a week kind of thing), playing audio stories and music on the tablet, watch TV, and playing outdoors as much as we can. Travel. Get immersed in mother tongue (English is her first language of choice but we speak another language at home).

But mostly play, play, play and have fun smile

I guess that's a lot of 'work' for a 5-yr old who's just finished Reception.

pixelchick10 Wed 17-Jul-13 22:05:07

Speaking as a parent of a Y9 (going into Y10) dd I would let them rest and recharge their batteries ... apart from reading, some music practise and a trip to a museum or two ... An hour a day seems excessive unless there is an area you are genuinely concerned about and they need to catch up. My daughter's school used to give out practise sheets (eg in maths) to a few kids who needed some extra practise ...

englishmumcominghome Thu 18-Jul-13 06:49:52

we are in Joburg and returning back to the UK probably for the start of the academic year in September 2014. DS1 will have to be sitting 8+ exams come Nov/Dec/Jan 2014 so he has a horrible timetable to get him up to UK speed (he is only half way through his first year of proper school here and just turned 7).

That said, we have a smaller holiday though August (4 weeks) and we are going to ILs in NZ for 2.5 weeks of that - we are putting together a project and daily journal to encourage his creative writing, and he will be having some brilliant experiences so hopefully this will help.

lilli30101968 Thu 18-Jul-13 15:06:50

My daughter is a little behind I would like her to do some work 1 h a day anybody suggest any good work book for going to year 5 . She will do the reading challenge at the library.

quip Thu 18-Jul-13 16:51:16

I take it back: my dc have both been given holiday diaries to complete. And ds1 has got hold of a music theory book he wants to work through. So less poking mud with sticks than I thought.

DwightFry Thu 18-Jul-13 17:15:59

Very like ThreeBeeOneGee here.

Reading for all - but that's half an hour's wind down before bed every night anyway, no exceptions. So that doesn't count. And thank God for kindles, it means two less bags of books to take on holiday.

Then
DS1 - guitar practice, keep his French and German vocab going (5 mins each a day) and he wants to do some Latin (bit of a linguist, that one and Y8 languages are apparently 'all about grammar, now you know the vocab').

DS2 - drum practice and half an hour's maths daily - has missed a lot of this term due to illness and needs to hit the ground running in Y6. Some reading aloud for comprehension, as well as reading to himself. Told me today he is writing a book online with his grandfather as well, apparently.

DD - dancing practice (one song a day to practice a particular kind of turn, apparently), half an hour alternating mental maths and alphabet work . She is also doing the library reading challenge, although since she went yesterday with a list of 6 (mainstream) authors she was interested in and they had NONE of them, I'm not holding my breath.

DS3 - mark making, colouring, generally joining in.

But also plenty of being in the garden / park, hiding in the den, building other dens out of two airers, the washing line, every cushion in the house and all my blankets, cooking, painting, poking each other with sticks, learning new instruments (they all want to teach themselves the rudiments of the piano - not at once, I hope), fighting, yelling, lying around in their pyjamas watching cartoons of a morning - the usual holiday stuff.

fuzzpig Thu 18-Jul-13 17:36:02

Ha, dwight, my two make dens with the laundry airer too. When it's full of clothes (usually socks of course, seeing as they are the most annoying to pick up when they all scatter...)

I love the sound of the book your DS2 is writing with his grandfather! That's really sweet. Is there a particular interest they share, or is he keeping the plot a secret grin

What are the authors your DD likes? You should be able to request them in for free on a child's ticket (you can here anyway) so even if they take a little while some should become available throughout the holidays.

WipsGlitter Thu 18-Jul-13 17:39:37

DS is reading two stories a night (he's 5). He struggled with the reading and the teacher is keen he doesn't unlearn it all over the summer. I've got the alpha blocks mag and another one for him as well.

Lancelottie Thu 18-Jul-13 17:46:20

Hurray for mathanxiety, keeping me company in my interpretation of 'work' as 'get the hoover out, mow the lawn and for gawd's sake do a few loads of washing'.

I might let them unwind with a bit of music practice after that if they're very good (though the neighbours would probably prefer not).

I met DS1's new teacher today. I said I wasn't intending to do any structured work over the summer, although he might glance at the odd book if he feels inclined. Teacher said "quite right too. It's Y1, not GCSEs. Time enough for work in September."

He and I are going to get on like a house on fire grin

cory Thu 18-Jul-13 18:16:58

What is regarded as work and not work will surely differ from family to family, child to child?

I was very happy to sit down with a French novel and a dictionary when I was a pre-teen; for dd, that definitely counted as work. Neither of us would have thought of reading a novel or writing stories as work.

I don't think my db ever saw practising his violin as work in the sense of "doing what I have been told", though he clearly thought of it as "work" in the sense of "preparing for the future". For me otoh it would have been a tedious chore.

The only tasks we have usually set (apart from necessary exam revision) have been swimming related: we usually test all the children of the extended family for their swimming badges. My summer memories seem to involve a lot of shivering on rocks watching a small head bobbing up and down in the water for what seems like hours.

MrButtercat Thu 18-Jul-13 19:35:56

Pixel why is an hour a day excessive,they have 11 other hours in the day?confused

Do we have to go through the competitive who does the least in holidays thing,it's tedious.

We all know what is best for our inividual children and act accordingly.

SirChenjin Thu 18-Jul-13 20:13:46

Or conversely, the who does the most - which is equally as tedious...

fuzzpig Thu 18-Jul-13 20:18:59

Indeed cory, depends very much on the child's interests and school stage etc. Last summer if I'd suggested making our own story book to DD, she would've looked at me in horror, but this year I suggested doing a book based on a series she loves, and she was over the moon.

She very much thinks of school as fun, even the bits where they are sitting down doing 'proper work' (she wanted to go to school on Xmas day! confused) so I think doing a few fun projects and 'schooly things' will only serve to cement that view, rather than damaging it. But it's in the way you approach it, obviously if I forced her to do stuff it would be counterproductive.

I have set myself some holiday homework today grin I was having a clear out (which incidentally is my main summer project... Long way to go yet!) and found some old maths books I used to love doing. Since getting ill I've got a bit slower mentally (had to quit my degree too) so I'm going to work through it to get the grey cells going again smile

Other main aims for the DCs are getting DS to dress himself (babied youngest child alert) ready for starting school in September, and to see if DD can ride her bike without stabilisers smile

DwightFry Thu 18-Jul-13 21:43:41

Fuzzpig, the building with airers thing is universal I suspect! DS2 is writing with grandpa partly because grandpa loves to write (my dad - has been hiding in the study 'writing stories' since long before I was born. If you couldn't find him, he was either there or asleep!) and because DS2 was talking to him today about some of his (DS2's) more bonkers ideas for inventions and they have woven a story out of it. I will be interested to see what comes out of this!

DD is looking to read Jeanne Birdsall, Maryrose Wood, Trenton Lee Stewart, Lemony Snicket or Eoin Colfer. I was frankly astounded that the library could not furnish ANY of these. She's a bit of an Instant Gratification 8-Year-Old (TM) too, so ordering did not appeal - but she has at least come home with one author she'd never read before, and may be branching out beyond Derek Landy and Rick Riordan. I was just a bit fed-up that I'd talked her into these new authors that I thought were pretty standard, and then none of them were there!

fuzzpig Thu 18-Jul-13 22:07:19

Ooh I love Lemony Snicket and Eoin Colfer! smile

Sounds like your DS' story might be a bit professor branestawm-ish. I loved those, trying to find some to read to DD.

Rosebud11 Fri 26-Jul-13 12:14:13

My DS will be having fun, fun, fun and more fun. He loves reading and playing on the maths app on the iPad so that's ok. He will be either at the park on his bike or scooter, on play dates with his friends or on a fun day out. We will just wake up and he can decide what he would like to do. Thats my idea of summer holidays. I am strict with him in terms of his learning when he is at school but holidays are times to relax, build memories and have fun. He exceeded most of the 17 reception goals so he deserves some treats for his achievement over the past year!

Elibean Fri 26-Jul-13 12:35:14

dd1's Y4 teacher was brilliant. She believed in NO work over holidays, lots of play and fun and outings.

And then knuckle down and work your socks off during term time grin

forehead Sat 27-Jul-13 20:11:00

My children always do some schoolwork during the long Summer break. The reason being that I am convinced that if they don't have some kind of structure they will definitely fall behind. My ds was behind in maths at the beginning of the last Summer holiday. I spent the last Summer holiday tutoring him in maths and he is now in the top maths group. He would not have been able to do this if I had not used the summer holidays. He still had plenty of time to watch tv,
play with his friends, fight with his siblings etc

UniS Sat 27-Jul-13 21:43:41

Nothing "official" from school for DS age 7, but all his maths workbooks were sent home at the end of term and there are lots of pages still to do. SO, as he is very enthusiastic about "workbooks" at present , he is doing a double spread of a work book most days either handwriting or maths ( he likes maths, but the handwriting one has stickers!). Also 15 is of piano practise when we remember and 10 mins of reading almost every evening.

NeverKnowinglyUnderstood Sat 27-Jul-13 21:50:23

they don't think they are doing any work over the holidays.

however
they have written postcards, shopping lists, things to do lists. literacy
read a chapter of their books each day literacy
played maths and logic based games maths
they LOVE puzzle books maths english
they have been going to the shops for me. maths
They are making a scrapbook about this holidays art
playing badminton and swimming PE
hanging out with friends phse

NeverKnowinglyUnderstood Sat 27-Jul-13 21:51:04

ooh forgot about riding their bikes for a couple of hours a day

fuzzpig Sat 27-Jul-13 21:59:59

One of my 'aims' for this holiday was to see if DD could learn to ride without stabilisers, she begged DH to take them off after school finished on Wednesday, she has totally mastered it now grin

I am trying to make sure they get loads of time outside. Not asked DD to do anything else specific although she has enjoyed doing some pages for her scrapbook (just drawings so far).

simpson Sat 27-Jul-13 22:09:26

It was my aim to get DD riding her bike with no stabilisers too but she cracked it in 2 days before school broke up.

I am very proud of her as she is hyper mobile and finds things like this difficult.

For the holidays I am trying to combine fun with learning iyswim. Tomorrow we are going to a garden centre for lunch which has sheep, goats and chickens etc. DD wants to take her bug hunting kit (bought for the holidays on amazon) which comes with a little notebook for her to write her findings. She is most excited!

Beechview Sat 27-Jul-13 22:18:01

Ds1's teacher (yr 3) gave me suggestions about what he could do over the holidays adding 'some parents do nothing with their children over the holidays and you can really tell'

His suggestions were getting him to make some biscuits or cakes by himself so he uses measuring stuff. Getting him to work out the how much time there is between times eg how long til 12 o'clock, if this film is 1hr30mins, whens it going to finish. He also suggested practicing addition, subtraction, multiplication and division and using education city as well as doing the reading challenge and the set homework on adjectives.
I'm happy doing that

fuzzpig Sat 27-Jul-13 23:05:19

That's great simpson well done to your DD! smile

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