100% cotton school uniform dress free of chemicals

(39 Posts)
Zara75 Fri 05-Jul-13 13:54:15

I am desperately looking for 100% cotton school pinafore dress for my daughter, who starts reception this year. Our school supplier has got only polyester mixed ones and this non-iron, teflon coated and chemically treated fabrics. M&S and JL sell also only chemically treated uniforms. I am not sure why this is actually allowed to use for children wear still - knowing how bad this is for children.

I was able to get at least the shirts and cardigan in cotton but struggle with the pinafore dress. So far I've found only one supplier but they have sold out the size I'd need. Anymore suggestions would be very much welcome. :-) thank you.

Can the supplier you've found not get it to you before the start of next term?

Zara75 Fri 05-Jul-13 14:04:15

thanks for the reply.

I've contacted them days ago - but haven't replied so far. I'll try again :-( It's just so frustrating that they should be the only one.

Zara75 Fri 05-Jul-13 14:34:06

No joy, they've sold out and won't get anymore. Seems impossible to get. :-(

insanityscratching Fri 05-Jul-13 14:34:11

Have you tried Cotton Comfort?

insanityscratching Fri 05-Jul-13 14:36:02

Only £2 here

Zara75 Fri 05-Jul-13 14:36:46

Yes this is the only one I've found and they've sold out on the size I need and won't stock anymore. Knowing how many children have got eczma I am surprised that there are not more suppliers to choose from.

Zara75 Fri 05-Jul-13 14:38:01

Thanks you very much. I will order this one!!

insanityscratching Fri 05-Jul-13 14:38:48

At that price I'd be tempted to order and see how it looks tbh. Have you tried the one above?

orangeandemons Fri 05-Jul-13 14:40:11

I teach Textile Science. Why are these treatments bad for children?

PureDeadBrilliant Fri 05-Jul-13 14:43:35

Have you got a tinfoil hat?

orangeandemons Fri 05-Jul-13 14:45:56

Most cotton fabric goes though about 40 treatments using bleach and chemicals. Teflon is a drop in he ocean

Zara75 Fri 05-Jul-13 14:57:26

@insanityscratching....I will let her try it on and send it back if it doesn't fit. But it seems to be the only choice for me as it is quite a niche market.

@orangeandemons ..That is exactely my point. The treatments common fabrics go through is a mix of many different chemicals. Children are extremely vulnerable when they are exposed to toxins as their bodies still develop. Never ever have there been so many chemicals used treating fabrics like we to today as a result an increasing number of children suffer from eczma, asthma and allergies. I believe there is a link. And unless proven the opposite I am not willing to take any chances.

Molecule Fri 05-Jul-13 15:07:42

From my days involved in the textile finishing industry I can assure you that an untreated cotton shirt would be a vey rough garment indeed.
In fact I imagine it would be pretty much impossible to weave untreated yarn, though possibly hand-loom weavers can, but not on an industrial scale. As orangeandemons says all textiles go through enormous amounts of treatments. However I have no idea what effect these have on sensitive skin, so cannot comment on whether they are problematic (my involvement was on the engineering side of things).

NoComet Fri 05-Jul-13 15:21:19

I too would love links (proper science ones) as to why people want to make life difficult, expensive and hard to iron.

Molecule Fri 05-Jul-13 15:24:04

I started my working life nearly 30 years ago, and there were just as many treatments then as now (though of course some may have changed) and treating textiles was not new then. What caused all the pollution in the Lancashire rivers? effluent from the textile mills. If anything the treatments will be safer now than they were 30, 50 or 100 years ago.

orangeandemons Fri 05-Jul-13 16:00:38

But op, Teflon is probably the last of hundreds of different processes. All of them use loads of chemicals and lots of bleach. Why pick on Teflon? An untreated garment would be unwearable, so why is Teflon worse than all the rest?

noblegiraffe Fri 05-Jul-13 16:11:23

Increasing numbers of children suffer from asthma and eczema since we all switched to unleaded petrol, stopped using mercury thermometers, stopped CFCs in aerosols, stopped building schools with asbestos and painting them with lead paint, and on and on. Correlation does not equal causation!

orangeandemons Fri 05-Jul-13 16:13:39

I thought asthma and eczema had come from washing ourselves too much and living with central heating.

Not sure it's anything to do with Teflon, which has been around for years and has never hit the headlines to my knowledge

Pyrrah Fri 05-Jul-13 17:28:44

My degree was in Textiles and I worked in various parts of the Industry for 12 years and agree with orangesandlemons and Molecule - all fabrics go through many chemical processes before they are even made into yarn/cloth. They've been doing this for thousands of years - we just don't use mango-eating horse urine so much these days. Some of the ancient plant dyes are as natural as you like but not what you'd necessarily want next to your child's skin.

Have you looked at finding some made of bamboo fibre? I've heard that that can be good for children with eczema.

colditz Fri 05-Jul-13 18:17:20

Just buy a normal one, and wash it. Don't be silly. If you are absolutely frantic about her being exposed to chemicals, you are goingtobraise a frightened little girl into a frightened young woman.

xylem8 Fri 05-Jul-13 22:06:23

I suspect ashma is on the increase because in the past sufferers would have died before having the chance to pass on their genes

xylem8 Fri 05-Jul-13 22:07:25

what have you dressed her in up to now?

citybranch Sat 06-Jul-13 01:07:31

Teflon contains PFOA, a likely human carcinogen. DuPont were fined millions of dollars a few years back, for covering up studies which showed links between PFOA and cancer, birth defects etc. it is pretty toxic stuff. I'm going for cotton options for the children, just in case.

lljkk Sat 06-Jul-13 08:32:34

The pesticide residues on cotton have to be high, need to aim for organic fabric to avoid. Better would be linen or hemp fabrics.

The lovely thing about teflon is it wipes clean, does not stain, so clothes last. All this idealism preserve of the wealthy, methinks.

Ixia Sat 06-Jul-13 09:50:24

H&M have cotton pinafores in store, m&s have a 75% cotton pinafore with no teflon. Teflon does have a bad health rep, the fumes given off by cookware can kill pet birds.
I'm always a bit suprised at how uniform has to be synthetic and non-stick, when kids clothes are normally cotton.

prh47bridge Sat 06-Jul-13 10:26:56

In the interests of factual accuracy...

PFOA is used in the process of making Teflon. It should not be present in the finished product. A study by the US Environment Protection Agency in 2009 found levels in non-stick cookware ranging from undetectable (i.e. less than 1.5 parts per billion) to 4.3 parts per billion.

PFOA has been linked to kidney cancer and testicular cancer and scientists think there may be a link but it is not currently regarded as a carcinogen. Further research is needed. It is not currently thought to be linked to birth defects.

DuPont's fine was about the risks to workers and those living near the factories where Teflon is produced, not any alleged risk to consumers.

prh47bridge Sat 06-Jul-13 10:32:50

It is true that some organisations of pet bird owners recommend minimising birds exposure to fumes from cooking with non-stick cookware. Birds are more sensitive to fumes as their respiratory system does not protect them from toxins that are excluded by human lungs. Fumes can be fatal to parrots and some other birds but this is at very much higher temperatures than used in cooking. As I understand it no fumes are released below 300C.

Ineedmorepatience Sat 06-Jul-13 12:10:52

Next do school trousers which have a really high cotton content. My Dd3 loves them, dont think they have teflon either. Althiugh she will be exposed to all sorts of chemicals just getting outnof bed and going to school tbf hmm

Ineedmorepatience Sat 06-Jul-13 12:12:48

Oh, yes they do have teflon. Hey ho.

forevergreek Sat 06-Jul-13 12:17:21

Cambridge baby sell the checked summer type dresses. In 100% organic cotton. 2-6 years

forevergreek Sat 06-Jul-13 12:19:36

Actually Cambridge baby also sell merino wool school cardigans/ woollen grey school skirts. Etc etc but aren't cheap so depends on budget

curlew Sat 06-Jul-13 12:24:25

Please can somebody link to the risks posed by chemicals in clothing? Thank you.

xylem8 Sat 06-Jul-13 17:37:29

I am sure I have read that cotton is the most-sprayed crop in the world, and that's before you even start on teh chemical processes needed to make it usable for textiles

curlew Sat 06-Jul-13 20:04:23

People do realise that "chemicals" are not necessarily bad things, don't they?

Yes, and we're all made of 'chemicals'

Fairylea Sat 06-Jul-13 20:17:13

I think once she starts school and gets covered in paint / food stains / general school mess etc you might see the benefit of the various coatings when it comes to washing the uniform! (Says the mum to a 10 year old dd).

Honestly with all the chemicals they come into contact with this is the least of your worries!

ballstoit Sat 06-Jul-13 21:19:12

The risk of Teflon (if any) would be in non-stick cookware, through heating and breathing in fumes or eating contaminated food.

Presume your DD won't be burning or eating her uniform confused

thehalls Tue 22-Oct-13 14:12:57

I don't want to make my life difficult or do more ironing or even spend more money. But if my son, who has eczema,does not wear cotton clothes he spends his days hot, itching and in discomfort. If he wears teflon treated trousers it;s just as bad. I don't have the science, just the experience of my child. I know he's not alone and would love it if more cotton uniform was available.

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