Reception Waiting Lists...

(124 Posts)
Pyrrah Thu 18-Apr-13 13:28:16

Does anyone want to join me in obsessing and fretting over the waiting list for the school they didn't get?

LA just told me that we are no. 47 on the list for ours.

Given that I'm nearly 1200 metres outside the last distance offered for last year and this is central London I'm a bit shocked.

At this point every child who had the school as a higher preference than the one they were allocated is automatically on the waiting list whether is was 1st, 2nd, 3rd or whatever choice, and today is before many people will have accepted places so I'm really shocked that I'm not 150th.

LA were also lovely and told me I could ring anytime to check DD's position on the list.

(How often a week is too often? grin)

cleanandclothed Thu 18-Apr-13 13:54:16

Hello! I am waiting to hear (same LA) <waves> but my first choice is a faith school so I think it may be a bit different. Gives me two lots of people to hassle! Good luck. Can I be really nosy and ask you to PM me which one you got and which one you want?

BreasticlesNTesticles Thu 18-Apr-13 13:56:10

I have heard that often if you are prepared to move your dc after September there can be quite a bit of swapping to start with. Fingers crossed for you.

Pyrrah Thu 18-Apr-13 14:07:36

I'm def prepared to move at any point - I'm counting on parents not wanting to move their child after the start of term.

If we get one before September will be a miracle, but school and area have very high levels of mobility so who knows!

caramellokoalalover Thu 18-Apr-13 14:40:39

I'm sat on waiting lists too.

Got our 4th preference so are on waiting lists for our first 3 prefs. I phoned the LA and they won't tell me where I am on the lists. Said they won't know for another month. Can that be right?

Also people have said to get put on waiting lists for as many schools as possible but the schools say the LA controls waiting lists and the LA say I can only apply for continuing interest to a select number of schools who have agreed to CI (and this isn't any remotely near me).

So confused!

Pyrrah Thu 18-Apr-13 14:52:31

My LA asked me if I wanted to know where I am on the list...

Are you in London?

I think if you get no place at all then you can go on waiting lists for every school in the area; if you got one of your preferences then they only put you on the lists for those above to avoid total chaos.

It may be the case that you can go on others after 31st August when 2nd round closes?

caramellokoalalover Thu 18-Apr-13 15:32:28

Pyrrah I'm in North Herts. I called the LA again to pester check about the waiting lists. They said they won't say until 13 May where I am on the lists because 'it's constantly changing'. On 13 May I should find out where I am on the lists.

I think after 13 May, when the first round of continuing interest offers are allocated, I can find out if any other schools have waiting lists I can go on, until then I'm stuck with just the 3 prefs I didn't get.

I'm same as you, prepared to move at any point really, even if it was midway through the year. Just can't imagine many people rejecting offers at the schools I put down and didn't get. Can there really be that many people moving before school starts? I'm not so sure in North Herts.

Kt8791 Thu 18-Apr-13 15:45:23

I am the same but in Surrey. Don't find out waiting list position until may 13th. The LA said there will be a lot of movement between now and then and some places will be declined for private schools. Just hoping we are new the top.

littlecrystal Thu 18-Apr-13 22:20:42

If it helps we were 11th on the waiting list for a popular London RC school and we got offered a place just 1 day before starting at our 2nd choice primary.

littlecrystal Thu 18-Apr-13 22:24:10

It was last year.

Lozario Thu 18-Apr-13 22:29:20

Hello again Pyrrah >waves<

We'll stay on waiting list for our 1st and 2nd choices; am a bit baffled as to where we are on the lists but will have a better picture in a couple of weeks. In the meantime, 3rd choice is ok and if we end up there in September I won't be gutted as its a nice school, just a lot further away.

Lozario Thu 18-Apr-13 22:31:21

Why do people apply for a state school place if they're then only going to go private? That's our only hope of 1st place really but I can't understand why they'd turn down amazing 1st choice school, but apparently it does happen?

AmandaPayneAteTooMuchChocolate Thu 18-Apr-13 22:50:30

People apply for a state place for lots of reasons. Most commonly not being sure at the time of application whether they will get into their first choice private school.

Pyrrah Thu 18-Apr-13 23:02:33

Or wanting a back-up if they're worried about redundancy or being relocated or something.

Those tend to free up once the big deposit is due - but some parents don't bother to say till term starts apparently. Grrr.

Lozario Thu 18-Apr-13 23:22:09

Oh yeah I see. My lazy brain was just thinking if I was in that position I couldn't be bothered to fill out the extra form!

Lozario Fri 19-Apr-13 23:13:45

Pyrrah how often are you going to ring? I'm going to phone again on Monday I think! And then will try to leave it until the day all the replies had to be in (2nd may?)

ninaprettyballerina Sat 20-Apr-13 00:09:47

Hello. We're 3rd on the list for first choice and 2nd on the list of second choice. Goodness knows if that will change

Pyrrah Mon 22-Apr-13 12:38:21

Lozario - I rang today and we've already moved up one place.

I'm planning on ringing once a week - or maybe Tuesdays and Fridays grin (it brings back memories of TTC - I was hopeless and having discovered you could buy 50 pregnancy tests for £1 on eBay I indulged my total impatience to the max).

Once it gets past September when the school runs the list then it will be weekly.

The girl at the council said that I should ring at least once a week to check movement.

Nina - I would be very, very happy in your position, are you in an area where people often move?

Lozario Mon 22-Apr-13 13:53:00

Wildly speculating here, as have found out we are less than 40 metres from the furthest place offered so far! Last year, the furthest distance stretched an extra 120 metres from the April - Sept, so I'm suddenly hopeful again. Today the council wouldn't tell me our waiting list position but they did tell me the catchment area so far. She told me to wait until after 2 may when all the acceptances and declines are in but I think I'll ring again on Thursday or Friday!

tiggytape Mon 22-Apr-13 14:20:36

Why do people apply for a state school place if they're then only going to go private?

I know someone who did it out of curiosity! She wanted to know which school her child would be allocated by the council. In fairness she immediately rejected the offer when it came through because (as suspected) she did not qualify for any of the state schools that she was prepared to accept.

Other people do it because they fully intend to go private but are nervous about the money (like holding onto a state school place for a few months will ward off the bad luck of losing their job before prep school starts or will give them a last minute panic about which one to plump for).

Some people are planning a house move and are 99% certain it will go through but decide (quite rightly) to apply for a local school just in case the sale is cancelled, they can't find another buyer and are stuck in their current house for months longer than expected.

jellysmum77 Wed 24-Apr-13 16:50:34

Hi
We are on the waiting list too for my son for our first choice school. Slightly complicated story but we lived in an area and my daughter went to the school. Last summer we moved and rented out our house for 12 months to tenants but it hasn't work out and so we are going back to the original area. My daughter will be going back to the school and our house is in the catchment but as we were not living there in january when applications closed my son was not offered a place. So as it stands I will have two children at different primary schools (and I don't drive so not looking forward to that)!!
As a consequence we have brought our move forward and are now going to be back in our house by the beginning of June.
So now trying to sort out proof of the fact that we will live in our own house and that my daughter will be at the school but the local authority we are in now are taking forever to do anything! Been on the phone today and there were not even going to process my daughters application until next week- they are doing it tomorrow now!!
I have no idea where we are on the waiting list as they would not tell us but obviously once we move back we will move up the list.
Stressed doesn't come close at the moment!!

Lozario Mon 29-Apr-13 21:00:06

Gosh jelly that sounds so stressful! How are you getting on with it now?

We find out new waiting list position on Friday - we were 11th on offer day and the woman from the council said they are now processing all the late applications so I should anticipate going down on list! confused

jellysmum77 Mon 29-Apr-13 21:09:13

Oh no Lozario! Hope that turns out to be wrong!

Well we are in the process of filling out appeals forms on the basis that the school's admission criteria states that priority will be given to those living in zone and with an older sibling there at the start date which we explained we would have. As we own the house there was no doubt we would be living there from sales falling through etc and we have emails from the head confirming that they would be able to accommodate our older child back into the school (it's year three and two classes of 19 so again a certainty). The reason they gave us on the form states that we did not meet the admission criteria.

In terms of the waiting list we know no more about it but are planning on calling after Friday to try and find out. I have informed them of our new moving date and called today to explain that my daughter had officially got her place back, so hoping that no one gets in there before our move and takes a place above us!!

Lozario Mon 29-Apr-13 21:23:06

That sounds like you have a really good case. Fingers crossed for you - it would be a logistical nightmare having kids in 2 different schools at this stage (although it has just occurred to me that that will happen for a couple of years when oldest goes up to secondary - gah!!!)

Lozario Wed 01-May-13 19:09:33

Anyone had any waiting list updates? I'm ringing on Friday morning to see where we are. All the replies should be in by then.

Snowme Thu 02-May-13 09:35:14

You're 47th on the waiting list and you're 'hopeful'?

Wow! I'm so glad I don't live in London.
We've been 2nd on the list for 7 months and still waiting in a provincial market town.

Are London primaries really seeing that much mobility you Have a 1 in 47 chance?

Pyrrah Thu 02-May-13 11:32:32

Up to 44th - hooray!

Snowme - yes, 47th is not bad. Some areas of London have very high turnover especially in central areas which are less long-term residential and more the kind of place people live in as young professionals and move out to have children.

A substantial of students in this school are from other countries and many return home after a couple of years. The area is also one where you can't buy houses locally very easily so no leafy green catchment can be built up.

They took a bulge class for the first time this year so there are 50% more places and fewer siblings than there would have been.

A lot of schools in the surrounding area are very good - I have specific reasons for wanting this school that others may not - so a lot of people will probably drop off the list after 31st August as they're perfectly happy with the option they got. The vast majority of parents are very unlikely to want to move kids once term starts.

The school has very high mobility and I know children have got places who live a lot further away than I do.

My husband has been a governor at the school for nearly a decade and the HT reckoned that we were in a good position to get a place by the end of reception/in Y1. In the meantime we do have a school that we are quite happy with and is very convenient.

sportinguista Thu 02-May-13 12:09:25

We've just found out we're second on the list for our second choice school (We got our fourth choice). Talking to other parents it seems we might have a chance. Is it as good as it seems? I know that we could go down as well as up but the area is high mobility with people always leaving. I just don't want to get our hopes up...

Lozario Thu 02-May-13 18:00:11

pyrrah nice one - you're going in the right direction! What Borough are you again?

sportinguista I would be really optimistic if I was 2nd - especially if you are in a high mobility area. I spoke to someone recently who was 12th on offer day, then 7th on the day after offers had been accepted/declined, and then they got offered a place 3 weeks into the first term. Obviously it can vary though - can you find out how much the catchment increased for that school from April - Sept last year, that might give you an idea?

Will post our news tomorrow - we were 11th on offer day; am hoping we go up but due to high mobility we might also go down! confused

Pyrrah Thu 02-May-13 20:22:50

Lozario, I'm in Southwark.

Lozario Thu 02-May-13 21:10:31

Ah yes thought you were close, couldn't remember if it was that or Wandsworth. We're Lambeth who are not so great with the info sharing!

Lozario Fri 03-May-13 09:50:18

Well what was I just saying about Lambeth...?? I rang this morning, having been told to on the offers day, and was told it would now be another TWO WEEKS before I can find out where we are on the list. She said it was because they had so many late applications to process.

This came after getting a BFN this morning and then the kids going mental at me saying it was time to get shoes on to go to preschool.

I cried. sad

jellysmum77 Fri 03-May-13 09:57:00

oh Lozario how annoying for you.
The uncertainty of not knowing so hard. xx.

JustOneMoreBite Fri 03-May-13 10:44:16

Bromley won't give me any info about waiting list positions until the 20th, either. Boo. All I know is that the last place offered was at 0.21 miles and we're at 0.32 miles.

jellysmum77 Fri 03-May-13 12:58:35

My LA will not tell us anything either. They said that I would be contacted in a couple of days in there was a place. I also checked what phone numbers they had for us and after checking she said they didn't have any!! So I have given my mobile and have just emailed them to confirm and to also add our current home number (for the next few weeks) and husbands mobile number!

Pyrrah Fri 03-May-13 12:58:58

Lozario that is outrageous. And sorry about the BFN as well sad

I can't believe Southwark have less late applications that Lambeth - I would try calling again and see if you get someone different on the line if you didn't give your name last time. In any case, two weeks is mad, they should be far more sorted out than that.

Can you try a tame local councillor?

I heard this morning that Lewisham have 26 kids in the Haberdasher's fiasco. Me thinks it would be easier to just buy a portacabin for a year than mess around now. The appeals there are going to be horrific and rightly so given that a primary place is an automatic secondary place and they are like gold-dust.

Is it just me or do there seem to be more mess-ups this year than usual?

Lozario Fri 03-May-13 16:22:06

What happened with Haberdashers?

I tried ringing again this afternoon but got through to the same woman! D'oh. She said same thing - try again in 2 weeks. I had already emailed our local councillor who hasn't replied.

I've been trying to get an idea of how much catchments enlarge from April - Sept for a 90 intake - it seems to be anything from 40 metres to over 100 metres so at currently 37 metres out I feel like we might have a good chance? DH says I need to accept I have no control over this and there are no guarantees. I know he is right but wish he'd stop saying it but I find it difficult to, especially knowing we were that close.

Lozario Fri 03-May-13 16:23:22

oh yes and it was in the paper that Southwark messed up a woman's application as they told her she had a place but then withdrew it as they'd counted twins as one person, so now she has nothing again! So agree Pyrrah that there are a fair few balls-ups this year!

Pyrrah Sat 04-May-13 10:42:04

They got the grid-references wrong, gave 26 children (apparently) places at Habs who shouldn't have got them.

Then 12 days later they wrote and said sorry we messed up we're taking the place away. Also told all the parents who missed out that they now have a place.

Most of the parents are launching appeals as case law says that a council only has max 3 days to withdraw the offer.

Total, total mess up.

prh47bridge Sat 04-May-13 11:55:25

It is indeed a mess. What they should have done is left the allocations as they stood and got the parents who missed out to appeal. Not ideal but in line with the Admissions Code and previous cases. I believe this is a brand new free school and I'm not clear whether it is Lewisham or the school that has messed up but they have taken a bad situation and made it worse. I pity the appeal panel that is going to have to sort this mess out.

Pyrrah Sun 05-May-13 11:12:21

The free-school case is in Southwark.

Lewisham is the Haberdashers case - one of the most sought-after primaries in London. With 26 misplaced students they might as well just run a bulge-class. Probably cheaper than the legal costs likely to be incurred now.

If I was a parent there, I would fight tooth and nail to keep the place.

Lozario Fri 10-May-13 18:26:28

Apparently we will now find out our WL position on Monday afternoon. I'll believe it when I see it! Although I am not expecting good news now as have also heard the delay is due to tons of late applications sad

On a positive note, the school we have been allocated just had a great Ofsted inspection - official decision not published yet but the general consensus seems to be that it went well. I am taking the littlest one to a toddler group there on Monday morning to begin to integrate.

(You can already see where this is headed - we'll end up absolutely loving allocated school and will be in a quandary about moving him come Sept/Oct!!)

ninaprettyballerina Fri 10-May-13 19:18:15

Well after our initial positions being 3rd and 2nd on the waiting lists, I called to check today and we're now 6th and 5th. My initial optimism is faltering

Lozario Fri 10-May-13 19:49:33

nina that is disappointing but there is still lots of time. Would you move your child if a place came up after term started?

Pyrrah Fri 10-May-13 21:43:49

I'm still at 44th!

Lozario, hoping for good news for you next week! Nice to know your allocation is good though.

Lozario Mon 13-May-13 12:50:43

We're now 5th on the waiting list! It's a 90 intake so I wonder if that means we might have a chance of getting a place before Sept? It's a really over-subscribed school though so we'll see, won't hold my breath.

queenfromars Tue 14-May-13 22:36:31

We are 1st on our list, but admissions told me only 2 got in off the waiting list last year (1 before September and 1 after) so think there is very little movement hmm

notcitrus Tue 14-May-13 23:20:32

Shocked here - got 3rd choice (good school, mile away),and I knew a kid half as far as us from 2nd choice was over 80 on the waiting list, so didn't expect to be above 30 for our first choice (closest school, entire town applied there)

We're at no.5, and receptionist was saying may be higher after confirmations/refusals are received next week, and pretty much guaranteed if we wait after July when kids get to visit their schools and many parents give up on the waiting lists. Though she did make sure to explain positions on wait lists can go down as well as up - but also that we should take all 7 years into account, and several children join in the first month of term after others give up on waiting lists, and settle very quickly...

Trying to be as breezy as possible with ds, saying only "you've got a place at school X where friends A and B are going, but you might go to go to school Y which is much closer where C is and D is going" - his response is usually he wants to go to school Z where E is going, despite E having left 6 months ago to go to school Z's nursery!

Lozario Wed 15-May-13 07:27:25

notcitrus we're in exactly the same position then - currently 3rd choice and 5th on WL for 1st! Am trying to adopt breezy attitude too but probably failing as all I'm talking about with other mums is schools. DS doesn't seem to care either way though!

What's your 3rd choice like?

Kt8791 Wed 15-May-13 07:54:04

We got our second choice which is ok. Can ring this morning to find out where we are on the waiting list. Have been obsessing for weeks!!

Kt8791 Wed 15-May-13 08:48:56

3rd on the waiting, so fingers crossed!

eastegg Wed 15-May-13 10:20:43

We're now well after the deadline for accepting offers and I've phoned my first and second choice, 1st says we're still 12th as we were on offer day but that the list may need updating! 2nd choice says we're 20th and that was the first time I'd asked actually. This is inner London. We got 4th choice.
Thing is, 2nd May is actually a fairly irrelevant date when you think about it, because if you were going down the private route but hanging on to a state offer in case, or in the throes of moving house, you'd accept your state offer. We shouldn't be downhearted if there hasn't been much movement yet.

Pyrrah Wed 15-May-13 12:09:55

Still at 44th... council people still sounding pleased to hear from me and don't just answer the phone with 'Mrs Pyrrah, 44th, bye-bye'... yet...

However, in London there doesn't seem to be an opt in/out for the waiting lists, so there may be people ahead of you on the list who wouldn't actually take the place if it was offered to them.

I thought that after 31st August it was opt-in, but council have just said that they forward the whole list to the schools and it carries on like. V annoying.

Lozario, 5th for a 90 intake is pretty good, especially considering your borough which is prob high mobility like mine. Would not be surprised if you are in pre-September.

My consolation is that the school we got and the school we want both have the same colour uniform so isn't going to cost me a fortune!

Good luck to all on lists, hope they move soon.

fatfloosie Wed 15-May-13 15:12:24

I was on the waiting list for DD's preferred school last year and the LA were quite happy to give me a breakdown of how many there were in each category above DD. I found it useful to know how many were in the siblings categories, as they are unlikely to turn down any places that come up, even when they've started at another school, so it gave me an idea of the absolute minimum number of places that would need to come up before DD might get one. Far too many as it turned out!

Good luck! I hope you either (a) get the school you want or (b) end up loving the school you've got, as we did.

notcitrus Wed 15-May-13 18:05:06

lozario Saw 3rd choice today. Seems very nice, children seem a nice bunch learning stuff, buildings are good and a real perk is extra playground, nature zone and a playing field right on the site. V rare in London. Lots of music and sport and great art judging by the displays.

But big problem is they are just starting on the new building (which is leaving the above intact), and so for various reasons the before and after school care is cancelled for at least next year. They may have a plan by July as half the school parents are hacked off... Local childminders don't pick up/drop off there as too far away.

I suppose it's probably only a year, but a pain. Still, as a school for ds it should be good. I know other parents who really wanted it but didn't get in.

eastegg Wed 15-May-13 21:48:58

lozario we're in Lambeth too. Which area are you? We're West Norwood

Lozario Thu 16-May-13 08:57:56

eastegg We're West Dulwich. Have sent you a PM!

ninaprettyballerina Fri 17-May-13 14:32:35

Still 6th today. The thing about our offers though was there were no deadlines and so I don't really know when I'm likely to see any movement. The only deadline was for appeals.
I've taken his name off the other waiting list as it just added to the uncertainty. So at least now I know it's definitely either school A or school B. I feel better about that.
Anyone else have any news??

Lozario Fri 17-May-13 15:01:25

Still 5th here. LA told me there is usually lots of movement so I should definitely ring every week to get updates. That will be my Friday afternoon job from now on!
citrus what number intake is the school that you're 5th for? Ours is 90 and it's given me hope that the woman you spoke to was very encouraging that you might get a place before Sept?

jellysmum77 Fri 17-May-13 17:40:21

We still haven't been able to find out where we are on the list (to be honest I have given up asking and being told they can't tell me). Maybe I will try again next week.
I did find out though that there were 32 first preference applications for 30 places so I don't think there will be too many on the waiting list.Obviously I know people who had it as 2nd/3rd choice may also be on the list but we are lucky in that all the schools in the area are good , the only reason I so desperately want my son to go there is because his sister will be there, otherwise I would have been more than happy with the allocated school!!

queenfromars Fri 17-May-13 20:33:31

Still first here too, and no deadlines either so not sure when (if) there will be any movement.

notcitrus Sat 18-May-13 14:07:42

lozario 30 intake that we're eligible for (other 30 reserved for qualifying Christian parents). But it's the sort of area many people live in until they buy a house in Dulwich, with very high turnover - only 1/4 of Y5 were in reception, I think. And no idea if secretary will be right - we were told our street should definitely be close enough to get in at the open day! They've had 2 bulge class years so last 2 years were lucky and now we're competing with their siblings.

Lozario Wed 22-May-13 14:16:23

Feeling so proud that I haven't caved yet and rung this week. Determined to make it until Friday!!!

JustOneMoreBite Thu 23-May-13 13:21:40

At last, just found out where we are for our first choice - 19th sad

I think it's probably time to start getting excited about the school we got instead. It's a good school, there are just several things about it which I'm not keen on. Godbothering being the major one (it's fairly full-on CofE), plus the fact that we'll need to rethink childcare for DD2 because our current nursery is in the opposite direction.

So irritating that we'd definitely have got into our first choice any year before this - like notcitrus we're suffering from two previous bulge years. Oh well, off I go to start checking out childminders. Good luck to those still hanging in there!

Lozario Thu 23-May-13 13:44:29

Just it's still worth ringing them in a month or so as apparently a few more drop out around the time they are required to meet the teachers etc. How are you feeling about allocated school? Sympathies - we were nailed by previous bulge year too!

<sits on hands again to stop ringing council>

queenfromars Thu 23-May-13 20:22:50

Its mini admissions round tommorowm according to my councils website - trying not to get my hopes up....

Hi queen. What council?

I am trying to find out where my son is on the waiting list for our first choice but the school won't return my calls or reply to my email. Hopeless!

Lozario Thu 23-May-13 21:45:11

Queen what does that mean? A new wave of offers now they have acceptances/declines?

Lozario Fri 24-May-13 10:01:34

Still 5th here sad

At last got through to the school and we are second on the waiting list...We have got to our fourth choice but its over a mile away so here's hoping.

lozario sorry to hear that you are still fifth. I am sure it'll change next week.

Lozario Fri 24-May-13 21:20:01

abu thanks - at least I didn't go down the list I guess! 2nd is a great position - what is the intake of the school?

lozario it's 60 entry but we are only eligible for 30 places (open). The rest are for Christian families. Sounds similar to notcitrus upthread. Not to keen on the religious aspect but its the nearest, most convenient and its a nice school. So we will see.

notcitrus Sun 26-May-13 10:07:35

abu Are we looking at the same school? I+A?

notcitrus, at the risk of outing myself...yes! I & SA

nlondondad Mon 27-May-13 17:44:08

I though this info cut and pasted from a discussion elsewhere might help: It relates specifically to Islington but similar things will be going on in all the Boroughs.

As of 22/5/13 this was the position in Islington

"Over three hundred families who have been offered primary school places in the reception class for their children have not yet replied to say whether they want them. Some of these will decline leaving vacancies. But how many, and in which schools will not be known for a while. There are 110 vacant places in reception classes in the Borough. There are 100 children as yet “unallocated” that is their parents were not offered a school for which they had applied but are on waiting lists for those schools. In the end there is certain to be an offer of a place for everyone. On the one hand Islington admissions do not want to keep these parents hanging on, on the other hand they do not want to make the next round of offers until they have a better idea of how many people now holding offers will not take them up. Islington admissions have started to ring parents individually to chivvy them up, and get them to reply.

Admissions believe a significant number of the outstanding offers will be declined and so a lot of the 100 WILL get places at schools to which they have applied, and at a high preference."

Lozario Mon 27-May-13 20:18:46

Thanks nlondondad that's really encouraging smile

queenfromars Mon 27-May-13 22:33:32

I am in Norfolk, but no idea what a mini admissions round is that is mentioned on their website - we dont reply to say we want a place here, so doesnt make much sense confused

sportinguista Wed 29-May-13 11:18:00

Rang up yesterday and we are now 18 for our second choice, down from second and even further still for 1 and 3. Apparently these are late applications and include siblings and higher distance criterior than us.

So it looks like we are now stuck with our fourth choice. Didn't help that today I ran into someone who used to be a governor there and she said the reservations I have about the academic side are justified and I will need to do a fair bit of topping up if I want DS to reach the standards I expect.

I feel I've got to try and find a more positive spin on it. At the moment I feel I'll just be sending him for basic education and free childcare!

Please tell me it'll be better than I think!

Lozario Fri 31-May-13 09:23:18

Still 5th here. Seems like zero movement happening for us.

sporting sorry you've gone down so much - there must have been so many late applications. The lady at Lambeth told me this morning that they are still processing the late ones too. But also wanted to way that if your friend used to be a governor, it doesn't necessarily mean that the allocated school is still that way now - do you know anyone there at the moment to ask for their opinion?

sportinguista Fri 31-May-13 12:31:05

Lozario - sorry there still is no movement for you, I know London is far more difficult than most places round the country. Still at least you've not moved down.

No, I don't know anyone there at the moment and I never am around when people are dropping off or picking up and I think I'd find it a bit daunting asking a complete stranger (also there's always the lottery of whether they speak English round our way!).

No-one even our nursery seems to know much as they don't do pick up or drop off to there. I can't even find internet reviews as I doubt most parents from there would even think to review the school.

It doesn't help as we've received nothing from the allocated school either and I have a strong feeling that open days will be whilst we are on holiday!

queenfromars Sat 01-Jun-13 23:05:50

Has anyone got in off the waiting list recently? I am starting to lose hope sad

Lozario Sun 02-Jun-13 12:40:05

I think the next hope of movement is when people start meeting their teachers etc in June/July, it may emerge then that places aren't being taken up. I am with you though queen I am very frustrated at being at a stand-still sad

Pyrrah Mon 03-Jun-13 16:12:20

Now at 43rd (down from 42nd last week)...

Not expecting much movement till the Autumn now - plus although the area is high mobility in general, it is certainly not high mobility in terms of parents opting for private schools.

Lozario Tue 04-Jun-13 14:59:44

Sorry you're down a place Pyrrah.

I spoke to 1st choice school yesterday and she said she didn't even know what the final list was from Lambeth yet as a few have still yet to reply to their offer, so I'm hoping that means those people are less likely to accept and we'll go up a few places! She said it was slower this year than most years.

ninaprettyballerina Wed 05-Jun-13 10:34:53

Up slightly to 5th. But they did say that the only movement now will be unlikely to be in our favour, appeals will likely bump us down the list.
Oh we'll, I feel happier about buying the uniform for our allocated place now

jellysmum77 Wed 05-Jun-13 11:28:24

Well we have now moved back to our house and my daughter is attending the school. The LA will still not tell me anything about the waiting list though! So basically I have no idea about anything!

Lozario Wed 05-Jun-13 14:08:59

jelly have you spoken to the school recently too or just the LEA? The school might be a bit more forthcoming?

nina at least you're one up now; also they can have no idea how much movement there is from year to year so will continue to keep fingers crossed for all of us. I have heard that some people drop out in July around the "meet your teacher" time as they clarify then that they have made other plans.

jellysmum77 Thu 06-Jun-13 16:30:38

Hiya, I haven't spoken to the school yet but have been trying to catch the head this week. Will try tomorrow morning when I drop them off.

Cleanandclothed Thu 06-Jun-13 16:44:27

Hi Pyrah <waves> just thought you might like to know the Judith Kerr admissions rounds are still going on (keep getting emails about not getting a place) so there may be a few people who get that and drop off other Southwark waiting lists. I am one of the lucky ones who did get a place at our first choice school 3 weeks after being told we were 1st on the waiting list. Hang on in there everybody!

Pyrrah Thu 06-Jun-13 16:57:38

I got a place at Judith Kerr a couple of weeks ago but had to decline it as we're just too far away from the site to make it feasible.

I knew from the start that I wouldn't get my first choice before September so I'm not too stressed about it - will be interested to see what the school does when they take the lists over. For example, will they ring round and see who wants to remain on the list, or just ring when a place turns up.

Annoyingly we used to live well within catchment for first choice, then moved 1km further away and rented the old one out. Vaguely thought about convincing DH to do a house-swap with our tenants!

Lozario Thu 06-Jun-13 17:52:19

We were very tempted by the Judith Kerr school. Would love to live on one of those big houses off HM Lane and send kids there with them learning a second language into the bargain! Might have prompted me too take up German again! <dreams on>

Lozario Wed 26-Jun-13 09:44:33

Hello everyone - anyone seen any movement?

We have - but in the wrong direction. We are now down one to number 6 :-(

On the plus side we are more taken with the school we have now. So far the induction process and information distribution have been great. It will be a more difficult decision than I anticipated if we get offered our first choice but that is looking increasingly unlikely anyway!

Pyrrah Wed 26-Jun-13 09:54:37

I went down to 52 a week ago, but when I called yesterday I was back at 43... all a bit odd.

I've always known we're in for the long haul, so will be more interested in what the list looks like in September when the school has rung round to see who does/doesn't want to stay on the list. Fingers crossed that the other 42 all LOVE the schools they've been allocated!

Glad you're happy with the one you've been given!

Lozario Wed 26-Jun-13 10:02:49

The problem we have is locally it's common to hang on to your allocated school until you get offered the "golden" school (R). So more than likely all the other 5 on the list have the same idea as me - I know our neighbour does, who is one place ahead of us!

mrsmortis Wed 26-Jun-13 10:47:00

We started at 4 went to 5 and then got offered a place last week! I was really pleased as we didn't get offered any of our preferred schools and now we have a place at our first choice!

I didn't think we had much hope as there really isn't much movement around here. But I called to check on the morning that we were due to go for the parents evening at our allocated school and they told me they had just posted the letter with our offer of a place.

Hopefully if we can go from 5 to getting a place you can too Lozario.

jellysmum77 Wed 26-Jun-13 11:14:02

That's great news mrsmortis . We are still in the dark although pretty sure from talking to people and from the info we received for our appeal that we are probably the only ones on the list and almost certainly first if not but I'm not convinced there will be any movement now.

mrsmortis Wed 26-Jun-13 11:37:23

Remember that it doesn't have to be movement from the class that you want to get into. I think we got a place in one of those mega shuffles where a place becomes free at one school, a child that has accepted a place a lower choice takes that one, another child moves into the place vacated by child 2, and on and on ad infinitum... I wasn't expecting any movement either but I was pleasantly surprised. Here's hoping that you will be too.

Lozario Wed 26-Jun-13 14:31:41

mrsmortis that is great news well done! It's so hard waiting and we've just met the teacher for our allocated school and DS is now really excited about it. Just want to do what is best for him and the family - so hard to know what to do. Although currently it's out of my hands anyway!

jelly it's been so hard for you to get any info hasn't it! Have you been trying LEA and the school?

Fingers crossed for everyone x

jellysmum77 Wed 26-Jun-13 15:01:36

Hi, yes it is really hard not knowing anything that is going on. The school I think are trying not to be involved at this point (maybe because we have an appeal and they don't want it to look like they are helping me- I don't really know). The head keeps talking about how there is always a lot of shuffling around in the next few months and so you never know.
The LA just completely refuse to answer anything about the waiting list. It's quite frustrating. I do know that 32 put this school as there first choice and I found the other one the other one of the two not getting a place the other day whilst chatting at pre school. She has now decided not to appeal and is just sending her daughter to the allocated school as it is a good school and she doesn't have the sibling link like we do.

queenfromars Wed 03-Jul-13 12:13:54

Anyone else had any luck?

We have slipped from first down to third, so doubt we will get in now as there has been no movement so far.

Totally gutted sad

Chocovore Wed 03-Jul-13 12:16:40

I've just joined a list and am told we are in first place. One thing I don't know though, do we get regular uodates feom the council about our position or do they just email us if we are go up/down. Anyone know?

Lozario Wed 03-Jul-13 18:08:04

queen sorry you've dropped down too. Only consolation is that apparently a lot of the movement often happens in the first few weeks of term - would you be willing to move schools once term has started?

choc as far as I know you have to ring your LEA for updates but maybe it depends on your local authority.

nlondondad Wed 03-Jul-13 18:43:16

Anyone on this thread, on a waiting list for Ashmount, Coleridge, Weston Park, Rokesly, Hargrave Park, Highgate Primary?

I am trying to find out what sort of places situation there is where I live.

(Which is Whitehall Park Conservation Area.N19)

Lozario Sat 06-Jul-13 20:11:05

I know a few of us are south london but not sure about north london - hopefully someone will be able to give some advice.

It seems that locally, all other school waiting lists are seeing movement apart from ours. I'm only ringing up fortnightly now and trying to throw myself into allocated school. Had a couple of visits there and it seems lovely but the journey is a schlep.

newmummy16 Wed 10-Jul-13 15:25:10

Didn't get any of my choices.
I was no.6 for my first choice initially then moved down to no.7,
no.5 on 20th June and now as of 9th July I'm 4th.
But I do know a few parents are moving and waiting for private schools.
For my second choice school I started at no.7 now I'm no.13
3rd choice school started at no.20 since moved up to 18
Seems anything is possible.
Though I'm not totally unhappy with allocated school I will move DS when a place becomes available!
At least his friends from nursery will be there though he is a very friendly confident child.

jellysmum77 Thu 11-Jul-13 10:44:41

We have just found out that we won our appeal. grin
I hope you all manage to be successful with your waiting list.

GreenEggsAndNaiceHam Thu 11-Jul-13 11:00:30

No waiting list for HP as far as I know nl

Lozario Thu 11-Jul-13 13:57:49

jelly you must be so relieved!! Congratulations. It's good to hear a success story on this thread at last!!

jellysmum77 Thu 11-Jul-13 14:07:36

Thank you Lozario I can't quite believe it. Feels like such a massive weight has been lifted after all this time. Good Luck to you on your place xx.

queenfromars Sat 20-Jul-13 11:31:41

Has anyone got in recently, or moved up the list?
Do you think thats it now and there wont be much more movement sad

prh47bridge Sat 20-Jul-13 11:59:37

There probably won't be much more movement until September but there is likely to be some movement then. You would be surprised how many parents move away or go private without bothering to tell anyone that they don't need their school place any more.

Pyrrah Sat 20-Jul-13 12:32:17

I've moved 2 places up - now at 41!

September will be the big movement especially if you're on the list for a pro-active school that rings round to see who wants to remain on the list.

queenfromars Wed 04-Sep-13 10:50:06

Well, its September guys, how is everyone? Has anyone else been lucky enough to get in? I think we are second, I don't ask very often now.

Kelley2221 Thu 05-Sep-13 14:27:02

Hi all, am new to this site and after some advice really. My son has just started reception at our 3rd choice school. He is currently next on the list for our 1st choice and am wondering how often is deemed acceptable to see if there has been any change without making a complete nuisance of myself?

12345Floris Thu 05-Sep-13 16:53:02

Kelley2221 I ring up 3 times a week &#128516;

12345Floris Thu 05-Sep-13 16:54:19

That code is a smiley, by the way!

Also, remember to mention if you have siblings at the school you have applied to for the waiting list.

Kelley2221 Thu 05-Sep-13 18:13:06

12345Floris a thanks for the advice. I called on Monday so maybe might call tomorrow and ask them if they are still phasing the kids in and check if we are still next on the list.

newmummy16 Thu 05-Sep-13 21:46:09

My son started the Non allocated school Wednesday and I called my 2nd choice school today and they say he has been offered a place yesterday! And to expect an offer letter in the post yay finally! HALLELUIA

Kelley2221 Thu 05-Sep-13 22:03:26

That's great news newmummy16! I thought might contact you by phone initially maybe ill call tomorrow.

Kelley2221 Thu 05-Sep-13 22:03:54

Sorry the school not you lol!

Lozario Fri 06-Sep-13 10:18:55

We are still in the same position as we were before the summer holidays - 6th. Our first choice school is a 90 entry so I can't believe there hasn't been any movement! We were 5th when the list first came out so at that point we were really confident of getting a place before the start of school. Just goes to show you can't go by previous years at all.

I spoke to the council this morning to find out we are still 6th and then to 1st choice school who said the reception kids don't start until next week so they won't know until then whether or not there are any "no shows". Can't believe there would ever be 6 no-shows though. DS is due to start at 3rd choice school on the 16th so once he's started there, I don't know whether we'd move him. The main incentive is distance - 3rd choice school is twice the distance of 1st choice school. Both are good schools though so it's not the end of the world.

ninaprettyballerina Fri 06-Sep-13 21:31:02

Well after starting off at the heady height of 3rd and 2nd on the waiting lists, we started at our third choice school this week and never got a call about the others. I was sure we'd get in.

Nevermind, the school we're at seems fab so I'm no longer worried.

newmummy16 Fri 06-Sep-13 22:06:32

Let me tell you guys something persistence pays off!
Our lists re-started on 24th of July and those parents that left for school holidays early came off the lists.
Of course the may have re- joined later if they even saw the email re: list 2013 ending.
But most of the mums I've overheard are resigned to allocated schools leaving diehards like me to remain on the list. For instance on my 4th choice school I went from 20th to no.4! Only when I told my neighbour did she bother to go back onto the lists as she was 1 place behind me.
Just because there are people in front of you It doesn't mean it's their 1st choice school.
And now the children have started school parents will only swap for their most preferred school place.

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