Are you a primary school governor? A very simple question...

(99 Posts)
Wigeon Fri 08-Mar-13 13:14:47

...does the school provide tea and coffee for free at governor meetings (full meetings and sub-committees)?

My DH is. I think they do....but he said that the sandwiches were rubbish (he was there from 6 until 9.30 last night).

Fuzzymum1 Fri 08-Mar-13 13:24:13

I was a governor for 12 years, if we wanted a cuppa we could help ourselves in the meeting room before the meeting started, quite often there were jugs of water on the table. Sometimes someone would bring some cake or similar. Whatever was provided was never charged for. I hope the situation is the same as I am soon to go to my fist meeting as a new governor again.

Tiggles Fri 08-Mar-13 13:30:15

Nope.
Although meetings are only allowed to be 2hours long (not sure if that is a Welsh thing or not) so not really needed.

Wigeon Fri 08-Mar-13 13:33:27

He got sandwiches shock!

We have never been provided with tea/ coffee. Or even offered water out of plastic cups. In fact at last week's subcommittee (in the staff room), as people were coming in, the Deputy HT got up, made himself a coffee, didn't even offer anyone a glass of water, and sipped the coffee through the meeting.

Right at the end of the meeting, I suggested that it would be nice if there were basic refreshments at governor meetings (just tea and coffee), and the Deputy HT said "Well, I can tell you now that it won't be coming out of the school budget!". shock.

Just trying to assess whether refreshments are provided at all other governor meetings...

plainjayne123 Fri 08-Mar-13 13:36:35

Ridiculous attitude.

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Chocotrekkie Fri 08-Mar-13 13:48:18

We have a cuppa each to take into meetings just using the staff room stuff and for full govs head supplies snacks like crisps/ biscuits. For committee meetings no snacks on the table but he says to help ourselves to whatever is in the staff room before the meeting starts if we want....

EmmaGellerGreen Fri 08-Mar-13 13:48:25

We help ourselves to drinks and someone bring cakes.

rabbitstew Fri 08-Mar-13 13:48:39

Does the Deputy HT want a governing body???!!...

cakesaregood Fri 08-Mar-13 13:55:46

Most schools run a kitty for tea/coffee in the staffroom and in some staffrooms this is a very tetchy subject.

Even with a kitty though, lots of schools see visitors and volunteers as guests and do not begrudge them a little hospitality.

I'm guessing if I was a plumber, I wouldn't want to to be working at the deputy head's home!

Wigeon Fri 08-Mar-13 14:01:30

I was thinking about members of staff paying for tea via a kitty vs governors paying for their own tea. The big difference is that most employees do not expect their employer to pay for their food / drink during working hours (I certainly wouldn't expect my public sector employer to pay for my daytime cuppa). Volunteers are giving their time for free, and so it's completely different.

rabbitstew: actually, I think he would much prefer it if there wasn't a governing body. At this rate, his wish is going to come true!

starfishmummy Fri 08-Mar-13 14:04:12

Tea/coffee and occasionally biscuits. Drinks usually offered before the meeting starts so if you dash in at the last minute then you probably don't get a drink and have to sit looking at the plate of biscuits out of reach on the other side of the room!

lougle Fri 08-Mar-13 14:08:31

We have 15 on our Governing Body.

At each meeting there is an urn with tea bags, coffee, sugar and milk provided. Also 2 plates of biscuits.

seeker Fri 08-Mar-13 14:10:24

Free tea and coffee and biscuits.

I take cake. But I take cake to everything

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choccyp1g Fri 08-Mar-13 14:13:12

Urns of hot water plus instant coffee and tea-bags to make your own tea plus plate of biscuits. Nothing fancy, but enough to make you feel welcome.
Same at the committee meetings too.

JakeBullet Fri 08-Mar-13 14:15:03

Its not actually provided but we CAN make it if we want to....sometimes I do

Wigeon Fri 08-Mar-13 14:16:33

I would not expect Twinnings leaf tea and freshly ground filter coffee - instant Nescafe plus Tesco own brand tea bags.

I have brought homemade cake or biscuits to each meeting so far...

ShatnersBassoon Fri 08-Mar-13 14:18:49

Yes, we can help ourselves to drinks and there's usually a plate of biscuits.

I'm not sure why any staff member would resent the Govs some light refreshments. It seems churlish and petty to deny you a drink.

PatriciaHolm Fri 08-Mar-13 14:23:31

Yes. It comes from the stash for parents, not the staff stash, I think.

Acinonyx Fri 08-Mar-13 15:52:22

Tea & coffee yes - but shock never sandwiches and certainly no hint of pizza shockshock

kneesofnorks Fri 08-Mar-13 15:55:29

ours are held in the staffroom, where we help ourselves to tea and coffee, theres always biscuits or cake and this week we had a training session where we had pizza, salad, crisps and even wine! that was unusual though grin

Fallenangle Fri 08-Mar-13 15:57:06

Well it not up to the DH what comes out of the school budget, it is up to the governors. Refreshments at meetings are a permissable expense, but someone will need to make the tea.

BonfireOfKleenex Fri 08-Mar-13 16:12:47

I can see that if there are staffroom wars over disappearing 'kitty' supplies then it might be difficult, but really the school should pay for a supply for guests and governers so that no-one feels awkward about it.

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Feenie Fri 08-Mar-13 16:41:58

Is this a state school?

Activ Fri 08-Mar-13 16:49:39

I do the finance in a state primary school.

We buy tea and coffee for governors and other visitors, but we have to keep it hidden under lock and key to stop the deputy head pinching it! It comes out of the stationery budget confused

Wigeon Fri 08-Mar-13 16:51:09

Bonfire - yes, I wouldn't expect governor refreshments to come out of the staff supplies if the staff pay for their own tea/coffee. I would expect it to come out of the school's budget. I was so shock I came home and calculated the cost to the school of providing basic tea / coffee / milk for every single governor meeting and subcommittee for a whole year (assuming full attendance at all, and assuming every person always wanted a hot drink). That came to........£6.60, and that's at Tesco prices. Presumably the school buys wholesale and would get it much cheaper.

BeerTricks - same here - people come straight from work.

Feenie - yes, very normal state school.

I am very reassured this is not normal. At the meeting I said, "well, I'll bring tea bags next time, along with more homemade biscuits", and a couple of others offered to bring coffee and milk, and I pointedly asked the Deputy HT if he was ok with supplying the hot water, and he shamelessly said yes, that would be fine!!

Activ Fri 08-Mar-13 16:52:29

reeddrerrrr

Are you a parent governor? Next time you get asked to donate to some school thing, tell them you're donating £6.60 for governor's tea, instead. If you specify what a charitable donation is for, it has to be set aside and used for that, IIRC.

Activ Fri 08-Mar-13 16:56:59

Sorry, that was an annoying child!

Pourquoimoi Fri 08-Mar-13 17:01:08

We don't get anything at all. We now meet in the community room and several of us take a travel mug of coffee with us. Even when we previously met in the staff room we weren't generally provided with a drink. Certainly no biscuits!

Staff in our school have a tea/coffee kitty though and pay for it themselves so it can be a tricky issue. I volunteer once a week and used to stick the odd pound in the kitty for when I had a coffee at break time. I don't anymore as I am very rarely there at break time but today I had a coffee in the staff room as a rarity.

When we have particular meetings, for eg with finance advisor then we make a coffee beforehand. Nobody has suggested we pay.

I think widgeon's dht is amazing. I'd want to tell him to p* off with that attitude! Sometimes I think governors are very much under appreciated. Not that I particularly want appreciation but I can't stand it when staff can't do a 6.30 training session with us once a year due to their work-life balance, what about ours?!? Most of us work and come after work so why can't they once a year. If they do, they get it taken as directed time and another training session off! Grrr, anyway moan over, sorry I got sidetracked. I enjoy it really, this is just one of my gripes!

middlesqueezed Fri 08-Mar-13 17:03:15

I like Bertha's suggestion. Take biscuits along too and make sure you don't give him any!

cumbrialass Fri 08-Mar-13 17:08:54

The Head makes tea and coffee (with whatever biscuits are in the biscuit barrel)l for all the Governors, it comes out of the "staff" tea pot but no-one begrudges 8 teas or coffees every 2 months!

Ilovesunflowers Fri 08-Mar-13 18:07:43

The school I am governor at provides tea, coffee, water and biscuits at every meeting. One of the school staff looks after us.

We have tea/coffee provided.

And the Head either asks the kitchen to make some cakes/biscuits or they buy some.

But we only have 3 meetings a term.

Feenie Fri 08-Mar-13 18:39:03

My question about a state school was to BeerTricks - have no objection to tea, coffee and biscuits, but I would be pissed off with diverting children's resources towards buying governors' tea. As a staff governor I often stay late (obviously unpaid) to meetings - I either wait until I get home or bring a sandwich.

tubsywubsy Fri 08-Mar-13 19:20:21

Governors give up their time to help the school for no reward. Most of our committees meet at governors' houses, where the host provides refreshments of one sort or another. Our main meetings take place at school in the evenings and many governors come straight from work. I think that it's only courteous that the school provides tea, coffee, water, sandwiches and fruit for them three or four times a year - its hardly going to break the bank.

Wigeon Fri 08-Mar-13 19:35:23

middlesqueezed - I am sooo tempted to bring biscuits and offer them to everyone apart from the Deputy HT!

Feenie - surely resources would not be diverted from the children? And what school can't afford £6.60? My DH has worked out that by not providing those on ParentMail with a hard copy of the weekly newsletter, the school would save £176 a year. By increasing the proportion of parents on ParentMail (apparently some parents aren't on it - surely 99% of parents have an email address?) they'd save even more. And then the governors could have an occasional cup of tea...

It's not about the money at all. It's indicative of a whole attitude, which is why I am still shock and angry.

DewDr0p Fri 08-Mar-13 19:40:33

No we don't. We have a kitty and when it needs topping up we all chuck a pound in. None of the governors have an issue with this at all - none of us actually feel comfortable with spending school budget on our refreshments.

Feenie Fri 08-Mar-13 19:46:58

Governors give up their time to help the school for no reward

As do staff governors.

* it's only courteous that the school provides tea, coffee, water, sandwiches and fruit for them three or four times a year - its hardly going to break the bank.*

No - but it will mean that something else cannot be purchased, Sandwiches and fruit are not necessary imo. Books are.

I am not quite sure why I, as a teacher, should provide tea and biscuits for the governors out if my own pocket. (Using staffroom supplies.)

Feenie Fri 08-Mar-13 19:48:49

Feenie - surely resources would not be diverted from the children? And what school can't afford £6.60?

Nobody begrudges you tea and coffee. It's pizza, sandwiches, etc that are not necessary - and yes, even £6.60 is the cost of a precious library/reading book.

Feenie Fri 08-Mar-13 19:50:47

I am not quite sure why I, as a teacher, should provide tea and biscuits for the governors out if my own pocket. (Using staffroom supplies.)

That used to hapen at our place - it made us very cross.

Feenie Fri 08-Mar-13 19:51:06

happen

Wigeon Fri 08-Mar-13 20:25:05

I absolutely do not expect the teachers to personally pay for the governors refreshments out of the staffroom kitty. I do not expect pizza and sandwiches. And if £6.60 for a whole year's refreshments for governors is too much, they really should look at the other wastage in other areas (eg the photocopied newsletters are completely unnecessary for people on ParentMail).

Dear god!

Governors come straight from work, give their time and arent offered tea or coffee?

Shameful.

A tray of sarnies would be welcome as our meetings often go on to 10.

As for using 'staff supplies' ffs, most schools have visitors and helpers and z stash for them ime.

£6.60? Can you imagine what it would cost to pay thr going rate for the expertise governors bring. Can you imagine they usually pay for their own travel, babysitting and stationery.

As i say, shameful.

Perhaps the stingy teacher woukd like respobsibility points for making a round of tea?

Feenie Fri 08-Mar-13 20:50:31

As for using 'staff supplies' ffs, most schools have visitors and helpers and z stash for them ime.

No, they don't.

Am guessing you are not on the Resources committee :-)

I am a governor. My meetings go on to 10. I give up my time. I would rather provide my own tea that see money wasted on sandwiches.

I do quite enough without carrying about teabags and milk!

I bet every school has the ofsted stash. If a school cannot make visitors of any kind a cuppa then it is a poor show imo.

It is about more thsn convenience. It is a tiny way to recognise a contribution.

If a school does not do that, it is a false economy

Jeez you're school is in major financial trouble if they can't stretch to some tea and coffee. Always have hot drinks at ours and often school cook makes some buns or chairwoman brings a big cake.

Feenie Fri 08-Mar-13 20:57:39

Wigeon, £6.50 for tea and coffee is fine.

Pizza and sandwiches takes the piss, imo.

£6.60 is too much, £6.50 is fine? grin

SandStorm Fri 08-Mar-13 21:03:38

I'm no longer a governor but have, at various times, been to meetings where tea and coffee were freely available to all but no biscuits. I've also been to meetings where a couple of governors brought a bottle of wine and nibbles to share and I have to say these were probably the most productive meetings I've ever been to (and no, nobody drinks to the point where they can't make a constructive decision).

Feenie Fri 08-Mar-13 21:09:30

I didn't say £6.60 was too much, not for tea and coffee. But it does make a difference, yes. grin

I would have to say my donations, time, and selfless sacrifices give the school a significant net gain.

Feenie Fri 08-Mar-13 21:17:45

I would say mine do too - but I would rather we spent the money on the children than my supper. That's over the top, imo.

But a penguin biscuit enables me to serve the children, instead of passing out.

Id be great with pizza

Feenie Fri 08-Mar-13 21:26:36

You can have a penguin biscuit grin

No pizza!

admission Fri 08-Mar-13 21:38:55

There is something peculiarly british that we are talking about the group of 10 to 20 people who are volunteering to act in a professional capacity to strategically manage schools with significant budgets (my secondary school, is just over £8M) and it is being questioned whether it is right that they can have a cup of tea or coffee when they have a meeting.
Of course it is right that they should. And biscuits, sandwiches and cakes.

BonfireOfKleenex Fri 08-Mar-13 21:49:15

I think just over 50p a month expenses for an entire team of people who do a professional job for free is a bit of a bargain actually.

Hedgepig Fri 08-Mar-13 21:56:28

I'm a governor and we have a rota to bring in drinks and nibbles for for the full governing body meetings . We don't bother with the sub committees.

emma123456 Fri 08-Mar-13 22:06:22

My husbands a governor.. they get nothing... not even a drink of water. The meetings usuaklly involve him getting to school straight from work so he hasnt had time for tea. A cuppa and a biscuit would be appreciated!

Fairyliz Fri 08-Mar-13 22:07:09

I work in a primary school where we have a staff kitty for tea and coffee. All Govenors, visitors etc are made a drink out of the staff supply which does cause problems.
I asked the Head if we could buy a visitors supply, he said no.

BonfireOfKleenex Fri 08-Mar-13 22:11:20

Quibbling over buying a few tea bags out of the school budget is a false economy, imo. Goodwill and cheerful dedication has a financial value too.

lougle Fri 08-Mar-13 22:15:10

What are you all doing having meetings that go on until 10pm??

I'm a Governor at a Special School and our meetings start at 7pm, finished by 8.30.

rabbitstew Fri 08-Mar-13 23:07:31

Not to offer tea, coffee, water and biscuits is churlish in the extreme. I offer that much to anyone who comes to do work on my house, despite the fact I'm already paying them for the job. With that sort of attitude, the school would deserve governors to put an item entitled "Governors' Allowances Policy" on the next agenda, where they could set out clearly their entitlement to claim back travel costs, photocopying and printing costs, childcare costs, etc, from the school. The goodwill generated from something as simple as providing free tea, coffee and biscuits to hungry, thirsty people can lead to the profitable result of the same people being far less inclined to claim back out of pocket expenses.

PurpleBlossom Fri 08-Mar-13 23:23:02

I have nothing of particular relevance to add to this thread but as a Teacher it made me LOL.

The staffroom politics involved in biscuits is unbelievable! People at our school haven't spoken in years over various biscuit related incidents. grin

Feenie Fri 08-Mar-13 23:56:06

Agreed, rabbitstew - now, where do you stand on pizza and sandwiches? smile

Feenie Fri 08-Mar-13 23:59:49

Lougle, our meetings start at 7 and often end at 10 because our Chair is ridiculous and adds AOB niggles from individual parents which should never be discussed at full governors - all without informing the Head or anyone else beforehand. Drives everyone nuts.

lougle Sat 09-Mar-13 08:21:15

Poor you! Our AOB is usually a sign to get your keys! What are parents doing sharing niggles with the GB? Our role is strategic, not operational confused

rabbitstew Sat 09-Mar-13 08:24:43

I don't think pizza and sandwiches are necessary! That would go the other way and make some governors feel guilty about the expense! Particularly if they didn't like the sandwich fillings grin.

messybedhead Sat 09-Mar-13 08:44:04

I'm hoping that it is just in schools that this stingy attitude is found.

I'm a teacher and I cringe every time the Deputy Head shakes the tea and coffee kitty box as soon as a visitor or supply teacher walks through the door.

I bring in my own tea bags because I begrudge being accused (collectively with the rest of the staff) of not contributing enough to the kitty. This makes him even more annoyed! grin

Of course the school should provide refreshments to the governors!!

rabbitstew Sat 09-Mar-13 08:53:36

Biscuits aren't really necessary, either, really, but at least they last a while, so aren't "wasted" like more perishable food if they are offered but not taken, and are an easy way to make people feel a little bit valued. It doesn't actually take very much to make people who are volunteers feel appreciated, because they are already eager to please, but you don't want to lose the sense of goodwill and wanting to be helpful. You certainly don't want to throw the goodwill back in peoples' faces by drinking coffee in front of them without offering them a cup, too - that's appallingly rude behaviour.

I think that's extremely rude. You can't expect people to volunteer their time and then begrudge them a refreshment because it will cost pence out of the budget. That's basically saying that the services of the governors is worth less than a tenner a year to the school, which is frankly insulting when people are giving up their evenings to attend meetings in addition to their own jobs and lives.

rabbitstew Sat 09-Mar-13 09:27:26

I find being a governor very expensive: I have to donate a prize to the governors' raffle every Christmas and summer and stand on the stall for the duration; I use my own money towards thank you gifts to departing head teachers and governors; I use reams of my own paper and printer ink; I never ask for transport or parking costs; my dh's entire work schedule is based around ensuring I am free for governor meetings without having to pay babysitters (which has actually limited my ability to have a social life with my dh...). It is not my only voluntary role, but it is definitely the most expensive one (and by far the most time consuming while looking for a new headteacher). On top of that, of course, I am expected to contribute to the school as a parent. If I weren't offered tea and coffee at meetings, I would be really peed off.

pooka Sat 09-Mar-13 09:35:07

Biscuits on plate oink middle of table. Never eaten. Assume they are then carefully packed away for another time. smile

If we want tea or coffee we can make ourselves. I tend not to. Meeting is in staff room so would rather not deplete staff tea and coffee supplies. Can help selves to water too. No one serving us - appropriate IMO. Meeting only 2hrs max. Not too ling to survive.

NotWilliamBoyd Sat 09-Mar-13 09:47:24

I am a parent governor. We are offered tea/coffee/water at our meetings, and have an informal rota of one of the governors bringing in something to eat - not preplanned but seems to work out, we have had too much homemade cake at a meeting before (we coped!) but luckily never had no cake or biscuits, fruit or whatever. As most of our meetings revolve around how to manage with not enough money in the budget, I would really struggle to sit
there being catered for at the school's expense whilst discussing it! I think we all quietly stick some money into the staff tea/coffee fund jar every year.

Littlefish Sat 09-Mar-13 16:02:57

Feenie - we have a fab new chair of govs who is now asking for all items of AOB to be forwarded to him in advance to avoid exactly the scenario you talked about.

HappyMummyOfOne Sat 09-Mar-13 16:11:16

Tea, coffee and biscuits at our full governing body meetings as they do on for a few hours. Would be cross if they made for sandwiches as i'd rather school monies we spent on books etc.

Rabbitstew, we dont have a governors raffle and its free to park so being a governor costs nothing more than our time.

MerryMingeWhingesAgain Sat 09-Mar-13 16:23:59

I need a cup of tea on the hour generally. I have spent many hours on governors stuff, and don't get any expenses for travel or anything else. We get cheap biscuits at the full governors meetings, just a hot drink at committee meetings. I have taken home baked goodies on occasion too.

Ruprekt Sat 09-Mar-13 21:41:42

I think it is outrageous not to be offered a drink at governor meetings.

Surely this is common courtesy when someone enters a meeting!

I do not put into the staffroom kitty as it is £28 per term which I think is outrageous and I take my own coffee/milk into school. I often bake for the staffroom though and take in biscuits.

I am outraged that you are not given a drink. Certainly not our schools way or a very rights respecting. angryangryangryangry

Whydobabiescry Sat 09-Mar-13 22:46:11

I'm a governor at a primary school and unfortunately we don't get any tea or biscuits. The meetings usually start at 6pm so something to keep us going until we get home would be nice.

DizzyHoneyBee Sat 09-Mar-13 22:47:42

No, never.

DizzyHoneyBee Sat 09-Mar-13 22:48:03

Oh, except once when we got takeaway pizzas after a 12 hour session.

DewDr0p Sun 10-Mar-13 12:13:55

We scrapped AOB from our agenda. If it's not put on the agenda in advance, it doesn't get discussed grin

Lomaamina Sun 10-Mar-13 14:36:21

I'm aghast people are expected to work [volunteer] through supper-time without the basic courtesy of a cup of tea or coffee.

Re: long meetings, I must say I'm allergic to any meeting that takes over 1.5 hours. For the ones I chair I ask for papers to be circulated ahead and taken as read. We can then discuss substantive matters only.

I like the idea of AOB being banned. I must see if I can get away with that for future meetings (if only my colleagues were efficient enough in getting their agenda items to me before the meeting, it would be doable).

I've also considered dismissed adopting the method employed by a US company I've heard of, which has meetings standing up, as that's a bit harsh grin.

Wigeon Mon 11-Mar-13 13:36:01

Thank you for all the outrage grin.

So I dropped the Deputy HT an email a week ago, advising him of the annual cost of providing tea and coffee at all governor meetings and asking him to confirm he'd be happy to provide tea and coffee at the full governor meeting next week. I haven't heard back...How do I chase this up most effectively?

Elibean Mon 11-Mar-13 13:47:53

We help ourselves to tea or coffee at full meetings, are offered some at sub meetings (as varying times and not in staff room), and as our staff governor is a chef, we occasionally get very tasty leftovers from cooking club grin

And we go out for a meal together a couple of times per year, everyone paying for themselves - just a social occasion.

admission Mon 11-Mar-13 14:40:24

Wigeon, this is very simple, the GB is responsible for the school budget. Just tell the DH that they are providing tea and coffee and that it is to be funded from the school budget -there will be a small float for cash purposes. You should be in throws of setting a budget from April 2013 to March 2014, can I suggest that you ensure that a small sum of money is put to one side for the tea and coffee.
As a completely separate question does the governing body have a budget for training of governors or for governor expenses? If not, why not as they are perfectly reasonable things that a good good governing body would be expected to have.

mutantninjamyrtle Mon 11-Mar-13 20:56:42

How is your school budget, though? Ours is fairly healthy and (or, more likely, so) we get tea, coffee, juice (sometimes), sandwiches, quiche, fruit and cakes.

If the school is in the red then laying out for grub probably isn't going to happen. But I think a few teabags wouldn't kill them!

Why don't you table it as AOB in the next full governing body meeting? Then you can all vote to instate hot drinks for evenings - after all, you have the power to!

admission Mon 11-Mar-13 22:16:12

mutantninjamyrtle - like the name - schools do have to live within their funding and that sometimes means making hard decisions. The reality is that saving a few quid on things like tea and coffee is a false economy and the school needs to be looking at what it spends 85% of its budget on - staffing. I know that sounds harsh but that is where cuts to balance the budget have to come from.

sozzle8 Tue 12-Mar-13 20:12:38

Yes definitely tea and coffee and sometimes biscuits and cake smile

Wigeon Tue 12-Mar-13 21:16:12

Admission - well, I know that the GB are ultimately responsible for the budget, although day to day operational decisions about the budget are surely the responsibility of the staff, and given that governor refreshments are hardly a strategic issue, it seems a bit over the top to use that line of argument...

About your question: we buy into our (very good) county council-provided training for a small annual subscription. I'm not sure if there is a budget for governor expenses (I have never claimed for any as I haven't had any).

The full GB does not appear to set the overall budget - I assume the Resources Committee does, although they only met in Sept and then again last week (I am on a separate sub-committee, and have only been a governor since Sept, so I am still finding out (a) what the GB should be doing and (b) what the GB actually does do, which so far does not always seem to be the same as (a)).

In latest developments: the agenda is now out for the full GB meeting next week, and "Tea and Coffee" has mysteriously appeared as a whole agenda item (??! what is there to discuss?!). Meanwhile the Deputy HT has not responded to my email asking him to reply to my email of 8 days ago asking for school-provided refreshments...

We have access to the staff room supplies - I'd be massively disappointed if the staff grudged us a few teabags and spoonfuls of instant. The milk is in suspiciously tiny bottles and appears to be the children's leftovers ...

We do them a social at the end of each school year, last year's featured a cocktail bar - we can claim expenses for the food/drink we contribute, but I don't think anyone does; I certainly don't. So I think they do alright out of the deal, even before we factor in our fabulous governing skills. wink

Wigeon Fri 22-Mar-13 13:07:21

Quick update: Deputy HT didn't reply to my email because he was off work sick. When he did, he said that he'd discussed the issue with the Chair of Governors and as the money would be coming out of the school budget, they'd decided to put it on the agenda for the next full governors meeting.

I was rather shock as clearly governors do not and should not approve such tiny amounts of expenditure (which I pointed out), but the meeting came round last week, and.....

when we all walked in the room, the Deputy HT was there offering everyone a drink of tea or coffee! grin grin. And the agenda item was right at the end of the long meeting, so there was just a bit of mumbling about how he'd appreciate us washing up our cups and no discussion.

Horray! Common sense has prevailed. grin

Now onto worrying about real, actual strategic issues affecting the school....

rabbitstew Fri 22-Mar-13 15:57:18

.... like whether Waitrose, M&S, Sainsbury's, Iceland, Aldi, the pound shop or (stealing from) the PTA cupboard is the best place to obtain governors' biscuits, tea,coffee and washing up liquid? grin

Areyoumadorisitme Fri 22-Mar-13 16:46:05

How amusing and ridiculous!

At least common sense has prevailed. If our contribution is not worth as much as a cup of tea there is a problem.
she says while still not getting a cup of tea at our school but I don't think it's a purposeful point but just not that practical

nlondondad Fri 22-Mar-13 22:50:30

Coffee or tea at ours, and biscuits.

meetings start at 6 and we try to finish by 7.30. Sometimes THAT is a challenge (I am the chair) but Governors are very supportive of the principle. In general, if it needs detailed discussion do this at a committee.

Feenie Fri 22-Mar-13 23:18:40

We have a full governors on the last day of term, next Thursday. Exactly what I want to be doing after we have officially broken up!

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