So the 100% attendance prize this term was an ipod shuffle!!!

(83 Posts)
RaisinBoys Fri 21-Dec-12 17:25:02

Aside from my thinking that a prize for 100% attendance is questionable, what is wrong with the humble book token?

Yes, I am really old!

And no, It's not just envy because my DC did not "win"

sasamaxx Fri 21-Dec-12 17:30:11

omg a prize for being healthy? what next? shock

NotSpartacus Fri 21-Dec-12 17:31:15

I think it's weird to give prizes for this (it's basically rewarding immune systems!). But it is really silly after just one term. I'd give a certificate for a child who had 100% attendance for the whole year (notwithstanding the immune systems point), but not otherwise.

lisad123 Fri 21-Dec-12 17:31:30

Way too much. My girls will never win, because they have too many appointments shock

snowmummy Fri 21-Dec-12 17:31:32

so they gave an Ipod shuffle to every child with 100% attendance?

Conflugenglugen Fri 21-Dec-12 17:32:20

Fucking ridiculous. <I'm in a bad mood. But still>

Panzee Fri 21-Dec-12 17:33:39

Cool. I said this on another thread. There used to be a boy in our school who had terrible social and academic difficulties due to a rotten home life in the early years. Every day he would go in and have a hell of a time. He got picked on in playtimes and struggled through his academic work. It would have been so easy for him to skip school, beg to stay at home, feign illness. But he didn't. He was there every day. I couldn't think of a better person to receive a prize like that.

RaisinBoys Fri 21-Dec-12 17:35:18

Yeah, they get certificates too (?) and then get put in a prize draw. Prizes - ipod, dartboard, lego helicopter, games compendium, soft toy!!!

DS is drip feeding info...every few mins he remembers another prize.

NotAnotherPackedLunch Fri 21-Dec-12 17:36:13

How horrible.
Further marginalizes the poor children with lifelong medical problems.
Bastards. angry

LynetteScavo Fri 21-Dec-12 17:38:34

I always laughed at DD's 100% attendance certificate, and say "You can tell you've got a working mother who kicks you in even if you're dying."

This term she didn't even get a certificate. hmm

labtest Fri 21-Dec-12 17:39:17

I don't agree with it. My daughter has leukaemia. She is at school more often than she is off but obviously will not manage 100 percent attendance til she is off treatment. This means that not only will she never get a prize but her class will not get a group award for having full attendance.

LynetteScavo Fri 21-Dec-12 17:39:44

And I think they should do "You ate all your lunch every day" certificates. hmm That would make my DC actually eat something at lunchtime. grin

petshopgirls Fri 21-Dec-12 17:41:10

My dc did get at 100% attendance certificate one year and whilst he was perfectly happy to get it, I wasn't when the next time he was ill he got really stressed about not being able to get his certificate that year.

It's wrong to reward something no-one can control i.e. not getting ill and you've just reminded me to mention this to our headteacher again.

RaisinBoys Fri 21-Dec-12 17:41:48

no snowmummy. Prize draw. Sorry should have made that clear in OP.

Still think it's rubbish though.

You can have 100% attendance yet have been in detention half the time you're there and still be put in the draw.

But if you have, say 96.2% attendance because you got sick, and had zero warnings and detentions, you're not in the draw.


Not bitter at all!!

MrsDeVere Fri 21-Dec-12 17:48:37

I hate these thing.
dS got a five pound gift voucher for attendance last year.
I gave it back.
He goes to a school for children with medical needs as well as SN.
He is one of the lucky ones who does not have health issues
I will not collude with a system that rewards that.
In his mainstream he wouldn't have got it because he had lots of appointments.

He won't get it next year because he is going to miss every Monday afternoon.

BackforGood Fri 21-Dec-12 17:51:40

I think it should be acknowledged - certificates, pencil case type thing. It might be the only achievement that particular child gets. Yes, there will be some who are not well enough to ever win it, but then, there are children who are not sporty enough to ever make the sports teams or musical enough to ever get the music grades or arty enough to ever get their painting on display, etc.,etc., and I don't think there should be no acknowledgement of those that do because there are those that don't / can't, but, like you OP, the value of some of these gifts is ridiculous, and also seems a little unfair that 2 children can both have 100% attendance, and one gets an i-pod shuffle / newbike, but the other gets nothing. I'd rather all those who got 100% (for the year, not just a term) got a £5 Amazon voucher or something.

RaisinBoys Fri 21-Dec-12 17:52:12

It completely marginalises those children who will never have 100% attendance despite their and their parents' best efforts.

I don't like it and never have.

And Panzee that young man is a star and presumably the achievement was his social/academic improvement. If schools are going to reward anything, then reward that with prizes if you must, don't reward the fact that a child is in 100%.

It also encourages some parents to send their DC in when they are ill, contagious and should be at home - not at school infecting other children and staff.

TheNebulousBoojum Fri 21-Dec-12 17:58:23

Don't tell the school, tell OFSTED to stop using attendance as one of the criteria that count towards a school's grading.
It often one of the few certificates that a child might get if they are not academic, sporty, musical, able to behave...

MamaWomanAha Fri 21-Dec-12 17:59:20

It doesn't stop at school.

DS2 started getting serious anxiety attacks about one term in at sixth form college. He was literally unable to step through the front door for a couple of weeks. They came from nowhere and he had always had 100% attendance at school and college before.

We were in full contact with the college tutors, was referred by the GP for CBT and even had an appointment with a counsellor at the college.

His anxiety was not helped by him worrying about missing college.

What do we then get but a standardised letter through the post going on about his attendance and what he needed to do to make his time up to achieve suitable attendance.

I hid the letter from him. It would have tipped him over the edge.

BluelightsAndSirens Fri 21-Dec-12 18:03:32

It cause me problems, DD won one year and was taken out for fish and chips with the head teacher <watches school healthy eating programme fly out of the window>

Next time she was too sick for school she got herself in a terrible state because she wouldn't get to go for fish and chips that term.

DD3 has hospital appointments to attend as well as having asthma so she is no hope in hell of achieving it.

I think it's rubbish.

Pyrrah Fri 21-Dec-12 18:06:41

Surely it could be altered to 100% attendance not including medical appointments/illness?

DD is likely to need regular hospital appointments for the whole of her childhood and teenage years and thus 100% attendance is an impossibility.

I don't have any issues with certificates (not everyone can win at everything etc) but when it turns into expensive prizes and a number of children have no possible chance of even competing each and every term then I think it is a little unreasonable unless they remove illness and medical appointments from the criteria.

anothercuppaplease Fri 21-Dec-12 18:20:06

I have always hated those. Even before my kids were at school. DS has asthma and most little cold cause big problems. DS2 has a speech disorder and has loads of appointments, speech therapy outside of school but during school time, hearing tests, etc and gets lots of ear infections. It's not fair on them, it's not fair on children who are ill, it's not their fault, I really wish schools with give that up!

pointysettia Fri 21-Dec-12 18:37:22

I've always hated them too, and I have two DDs who regularly get them. I would much prefer rewards for achievement, effort and improvement in whatever area. I'm not an 'all must have prizes' sort of person, but at least let's give prizes for things that matter - and awarding prizes for effort and improvement as well as achievement gives everyone a shot.

tiggytape Fri 21-Dec-12 23:40:01

I hate it. Both of mine have medical conditions and disabilities that require hospital treatment, hospital check-ups, clinics and tests on a regular basis. These are impossible to schedule outside school hours. One clinic is with a consultant that only runs that clinic on a weekday at 2pm for example.
So, as a direct result of disability, many children are excluded the chance to ever win a pretty desirable prize and potentially make their whole class cross if a class attendance prize is on offer.

I take the point that not everyone is good at sport or art or maths. But not many people are totally and completely excluded from the chance to win a prize a whole 12 months in advance (DS and DD have appointments booked up to the end of next year).

The other reason I hate it is that it encourages parents and children to come to school when they really shouldn't. Yes too many children stay away with a mere sniffle but at the same time you don't want children who've been sick 4 times since yesterday night to come into school regardless the next day. In Birmingham they've had to close whole schools because of the norovirus bug and yet parents still try to sneak kids back far too early so they don't miss the Christmas play or wreck the term's attendance award. There's enough pressure on working parents to send in sick kids without the prospect of an ipod as well.

AmberLeaf Fri 21-Dec-12 23:45:35

It is bullshit.

My son no matter how hard he tries will not achieve this. [he has ASD]

My other son had just lost out as he had a hospital appt last week, so despite a previous 100% attendance record he is out of the runnning

It is bullshit.

Most of those who have 100% attendance are the children of working parents who send in vomiting children regardless,

AmberLeaf Fri 21-Dec-12 23:46:41

If they disreguarded hospital appointments [which you have no say over] then id back it.

threesocksfullofchocs Fri 21-Dec-12 23:48:12

threads like these make me so glad that dd is in an sn school

TuftyFinch Fri 21-Dec-12 23:49:01

In an Ofsted term we'd give iPod shuffles are 100% attendance (FE college though) to bribe students to come to college and be on time.

katied73 Fri 21-Dec-12 23:52:12

They give certificates at the end of the academic year at our school, which I think is more than enough reward. I still disagree with it though. The same kids win each year and I know of parents who force their kids into school when they really need to be at home. Sometimes they just need to rest up a bit. It just seems to encourage the whole 'illness is weakness' mentality.

MrsJamin Sat 22-Dec-12 07:08:40

I hate this awarding attendance business too. Yesterday DS1 was one of a handful not to get a 100% attendance certificate- oh naughty him, next term he must try not to get a coughing virus through his own will and intent. I am going to challenge this with the governors, I think it is so pointless especially as they are all Reception-Y2 and hardly responsible for deciding whether they go to school or not!

Feenie Sat 22-Dec-12 07:25:15

Challenge away - the governors have no choice as they will have been set this as a target by Ofsted, who are not in the least bit interested whether the attendance figures contain data re coughing viruses, hospital appointments, etc.

MrsJamin Sat 22-Dec-12 09:05:12

Ofsted targets don't need to be publicly acknowledged to 4 year olds who had temperatures though? I would be surprised if they were obliged by law to do this.

catnipkitty Sat 22-Dec-12 09:09:45

Rewarding 100% attendance is punishing the poor kids who get ill through no fault of their own - usually because another child has gone in to school with something infectious because they want the prize for attendance.

MrsJamin Sat 22-Dec-12 09:14:44

I have contacted the chair of governors about this- suggest everyone else does the same rather than grumble in silence

schilke Sat 22-Dec-12 09:17:28

Don't get me started on this. We wrote a letter of complaint about it the other year. At the end of the year, there was a big assembly for parents. Two children had 100% attendance for the whole year (quite a small school). They both had 2 full time working parents....not sure if there's a link.

What are we rewarding them for? Having a fantastic immune system or parents who possibly send them to school the day after they've had a stomach bug and not waiting 48 hours?

ilovexmastime Sat 22-Dec-12 09:22:40

I hate this too. My DC generally get their certificates, and there's no way I'd send them into school ill just so that they could get a certificate, but I just feel really sorry for the kids who are properly poorly and stand no chance of ever getting 100% attendence.
There are no prizes for music or sport in our school, so all the focus falls on these stupid attendence certificates.

I would also add that these were brought in by our new headmaster, before him we didn't have them, so obviously they are not essential and if you/we complain about them to the school governors then something can be done about them.

sashh Sat 22-Dec-12 09:58:45

Back in the days of the ark, before Ofsted my high school gave a certificate for 100% attendance, and if you managed the full 5 years you also got a crappy gold coloured plastic trophy.

OK I have stopped rambling, bet we got attendance marks, non attendance and 'treatment' marks. To get a treatment mark you had to have a hospital / Dr / dentist appointment.

SSurely something like this could be addapted so it was 100% of possible attendances, so if your child is off every Monday for treatment then that Monday is counted in your child's attendance. I know Ofsted wouldn't use this for attendance but it must be better for children.

RillaBlythe Sat 22-Dec-12 10:05:35

It's bollocks. My dd didn't get a certificate this term - because she was sent home 'poorly' from school with a rash that disappeared within half an hour of being home hmm

But attendance is the only reason the achool doesn't have an outstanding grade so I understand why they have to play ball with the idiocy.

tiggytape Sat 22-Dec-12 10:07:52

I agree schilke - being lucky enough not to be ill, disabled or bereaved in any term is no cause for a reward.
Nor is going to school 7 hours after throwing up all night or with the kind of green-snot cold that has other people wishing they'd brought a face mask.

Being lucky or having inconsiderate parents aren't things a child has control over anyway.

But if a school is determined that they these should stay, they should at least discount medical appointments and funerals as things that cannot be helped and are generally distressing enough in their own right without causing double disadvantage.

NewFerry Sat 22-Dec-12 10:10:36

Well really the certificates and prizes should be given to the parents. After all, it's not the 5 year old who decides whether he is too ill for school, it's his mum. So if you've put your child into school every day, even when they should have stayed home because they're ill, then I think you should get the prize.

And I would like to donate the first prize to the mother who sent her vomiting child into class who then vomited in my daughters lunchbox. Please find a gift wrapped box of vomit. Enjoy.

<<<very bitter emoticon>>>

TotallyBS Sat 22-Dec-12 22:29:16

A high value gift for good attendance normally means that the school has a truancy problem.

Cat98 Sat 22-Dec-12 23:12:10

Hmm, i can see everyone's points but the fact remains that in the world of work, sickness record has a bearing on who gets put on the list for redundancies etc - so rightly or wrongly, I guess they are preparing kids for our society that rewards the get up and carry on regardless society.
I am not saying I agree with it, just playing devils advocate.

Cat98 Sat 22-Dec-12 23:12:38

Ethos not society!

tiggytape Sat 22-Dec-12 23:29:01

But in the 'real' world effort without results counts for very little.
Nor does managing to behave yourself for a whole term when normally you are disruptive and challenging.
In a workplace nobody rewards you for being pretty average at your job even if shows an improvement on last year when you were truly awful at it.

Schools are supposed to reward what is desirable not what would be profitable if it were a workplace. And it isn't desirable in a school setting to have parents who send ill children to school causing the whole school ends up closing with norovirus. It is neither good nor bad on a child's part to be healthy the whole time - that is just luck.

I think it's ridiculous. Ds has done really well this term, after a lot of ilness last year, and he was expecting a certificate, as he thought he'd got 100%.

I had forgotten though, that I had picked him up at 11 one day, because he had a migraine. That afternoon off, meant he didn't get 100%.

RaisinBoys Sun 23-Dec-12 07:07:26

A 100% attendance prize for the teachers wouldn't cost the schools much!!!

runs and hides

NotLongUntilXmas Sun 23-Dec-12 08:05:21

My DD is rarely ill and didn't miss a day of school for 3 years. She received certificates, had special lunches with the head teacher and was entered into the draws to win an iPod touch.

This year she had an accident, requiring an ambulance, on the first day of term and subsequently missed the next 3 days of school.

Imagine my surprise to hear that she had to have an interview about her poor attendance 4 weeks into the school year. They actually pulled her out of a lesson to discuss the importance of regular attendance.

I received DD's report on Friday and her predicted grades for GCSEs are all As. Surely the bigger picture should be looked at and not just the attendance level.

NotLongUntilXmas Sun 23-Dec-12 08:13:21

Oops, just noticed this is Primary Education. Sorry, saw it on Active Threads.
My primary school aged children get certificates, but no prizes, thankfully.

schilke Sun 23-Dec-12 08:30:26

NotLong - similar story for my ds1 in year 9. He didn't miss a day in years 8 & 9, but had awful cold/cough at beginning of October. He had 3 days off - went back still feeling extremely tired and works out, but he was worried about missing any more school.

Just before half term we got a letter expressing concern about his attendance levels! I know the computer just spits them out, but it really annoyed me!

DizzyHoneyBee Sun 23-Dec-12 08:39:58

They presumably have a massive attendance problem at the school and want to get their rates up so they don't get pulled up for it when OFSTED come in?

It's the like the SIMs points that they give out, the lower sets get them handed out like smarties but the kids in the top sets rarely get them. At the parent's evening recently DD's tutor commented that she had less SIMs points than she'd expect and DD was told that when she did good work she should ask for SIMs points but she'd no sooner do that than fly to the moon. Rewards in high schools are nearly always aimed at the lower ability kids and those who are less likely to turn up at school. In the last newsletter child X was mentioned for getting all his spellings right whereas DD and her friends who had had letters sent home for outstanding achievement and effort didn't warrant a "mention in despatches"

It's the way the system is, unfairly IMO.

DizzyHoneyBee Sun 23-Dec-12 08:41:21

Sorry, I just saw it was primary as well.
Certificates for 100% attendance round here at all levels. There are prizes for the most points at high school but the primary has a house point system and the house with the most points has the trophy for the next half term. I much prefer that than individual prizes.

Marne Sun 23-Dec-12 08:45:36

Hate the idea of attendance rewards, my dd's will never have 100% as they have sn's and lots of hospital appointments (as well as getting the odd illness), it seems very unfair to reward children for not being ill or going to school when they are ill and infecting their class mates.

BooksandaCuppa Sun 23-Dec-12 09:22:33

Agree with most of the above points: you shouldn't penalise a child for being ill or having a disability or a bereavement and you especially shouldn't encourage parents to send in ill children (particularly of the sickness bug type - that really annoys me). However, I can also see the point that school has a duty to ensure the highest attendance possible or they're in trouble.

The one thing I don't think anyone's mentioned is: the cost of these ridiculously over the top rewards...ipods and bikes? Surely to goodness that money is better spent on teachers and books and art materials and et cetera....I'm truly flabbergasted that a school would think that anything more than a certificate (or at an absolute push a book token) is justifiable financially!

marquesas Sun 23-Dec-12 09:29:09

No prizes at my DCs schools but I have seen an occassional certificate.

I do agree with the general principle of ensuring that children understand that school attendance is important and, if you want to keep a job in later life it's pretty much essential.

I'm sure most of us know parents who keep their children off school at the slightest sniffle, I feel sorry that these children aren't given the chance to learn that sometimes we have to suck it up and get on with it.

HappyMummyOfOne Sun 23-Dec-12 11:29:18

Schools have immense pressure from Ofsted to get their attendence as high as possible, poor attendance means no matter how good the school it will never be classed as outstanding.

I'm not against them in theory as it installs a good ethic into children which can only benefit them in their working lives. Far too many parents let their child stay home for holidays, a slight sniffle or they are tired etc.

They shouldnt be banned though for fear of upsetting some children unless all rewards are banned. Some children excel in sports, others arts so this may be the only certificate some get.

anothercuppaplease Sun 23-Dec-12 14:40:15

Happymummy you are missing the point. Some children will never be able to receive this unecessary award because of chronic illnesses or disability. The pressure to get children to school should be put on the parents, not on the children.

DizzyHoneyBee Sun 23-Dec-12 14:52:12

anothercuppa, I think children just have to learn to accept that. My DS is not likely to get one as he has a chronic condition (though he's just managed 100 % since September) but it's one of those he has to deal with.
Some children never get certificates for achievement/attitude but it's not a reason not to have them IMO.
Your point of view is equally valid though and I do see where you are coming from, I kind of agree but kind of don't.
Because of my DS's condition he cannot excel at one particular sport as much as his peers, consequently he sees them winning races and passing awards which he can't do although he loves the sport. They are still entitled to get the awards and win the races though.

NewFerry Sun 23-Dec-12 15:15:51

But winning a race, or passing a spelling test is something that the child does. The decision to take them to school, or keep them off is made by the adult. The child does not make that decision, and can only do what the adult determines.

So a child can say they feel ill, but mum still sends them to school.
Or they can say they need to go to school, but mum says no, you are needed at home to look after your younger sibling.
How can it be fair to reward on that basis?

DizzyHoneyBee Sun 23-Dec-12 18:31:16

OK...a dyslexic child sees all the others getting house points for full marks in the weekly spelling test. An asthmatic child sees all the others getting a certificate for full attendance.
Neither can help not getting full marks because of something completely beyond their control. They both have to learn to live with that, however unfair it is.
Life isn't about making it fair for all and we all have to learn to cope with that, no matter how hard it is.

DizzyHoneyBee Sun 23-Dec-12 18:31:35

oh, not all the others..a lot of the others/some of the others.

MrsJamin Mon 24-Dec-12 12:56:48

That comparison just doesn't hold up DizzyHoneyBee. Falling ill and doing the right thing by staying at home can happen to anyone.

Elibean Mon 24-Dec-12 18:11:52

Yikes shock

That is a ridiculous thing to give such a huge prize for - mind you, I think its a bit of a huge prize to give at primary level for anything, personally <scrooge>

The education authority always insisted on attendance certificates at our school, but no great fanfare is made of them. 100% gets a book, 99% gets a pencil, and everyone is really clear that a lot of it is luck.

Glad to say the Head was ill just before the end of term, quite bad flu/infection, and made a point of staying home for a few days and letting kids (and staff) know it was just as good to stay home when really ill as show up when not!

Heifer Mon 24-Dec-12 19:06:30

phew, just asked DD (9) if her school does this. Thankfully they don't.....

I wouldn't know because she has never had 100% attendance. She doesn't have any health problems but has had the normal childhood coughs, colds, noravirus etc so I'm amazed that any child has 100%. Are they actually never ill??

Houseworkprocrastinator Mon 24-Dec-12 21:11:30

Mine child's school has a little prize every half term (pencil, rubber or something similar) The school has really poor attendance and i know of allot of children that are off not due to illness or even holiday. My daughter has not had a day off since nursery and she is now year one. I do not work full time and i don't send her in sick. she normally waits till the holidays to be ill. (been sick the last two days)

Elibean Tue 25-Dec-12 20:24:02

Have to say, dd2 has just had her first day off ever - she is in Y1. She was ill a lot as a toddler (very ill, a few times) but has been pretty fit since having her tonsils out aged 2!

She has had all the usual colds, but always seems to start on a Friday evening and bounce back by Sunday night - I wouldn't send her in ill. Never in with a temp, feeling awful, or sick. It does happen.

But its pretty rare, and purely down to luck.

Churmy123 Thu 27-Dec-12 14:09:24

My DDs school gives out certificates at the end of each term but think it's for attendance over 97%. My DD is in Year 1 and has been lucky so far as in she has not been ill and therefore has never missed a day of school. She has always got the certificates and has been proud to receive them. She does have appointments at the Eye Clinic at our local hospital every 8-10 weeks but we've always managed to arrange them in the school holidays or after school. I think we are very lucky to be able to do this! I don't think prizes should be given out but don't see a problem with a certificate. In my DDs school it's definately the minority that reciece them anyway. I think it's a bit unfair of some posters to say it's the working parents that send sick children into school. Yes me and my husband work but I have never sent my child to school poorly. Maybe the school should look at some of the parents keep their kids off when they are not really poorly. I have a friend who's DD is in my DDs class and she has missed nearly 3 weeks of school so far due to coughs, mild colds and stomach aches.

incywincyspideragain Tue 01-Jan-13 22:44:20

All school rewards systems have faults.

100% attendance is pure luck and ofsted driven but my son was proud to get his 'I've been lucky' certificate for the first time (yr2) and those were his words. It's the only award his got and will probably get.
I went in to see the head about medical appointments in school time when he was in reception, if related to pre-existing condition or investigations then it shouldn't count against attendance, something to do with disability discrimination (can't find link) ds has various appointments and I wouldn't dare cancel a clinic app with specialist for fear of not getting one again so this shouldn't count against your child and you should speak to the head.
For all its faults 100% attendance is totally transparent - you know exactly why and how you get it although I like the idea of rewarding 97% or similar as that sounds more realistic, schools know which families they need to target for attendance and shouldn't penalise those with poor immune systems who don't want to spread the latest bug.
As a working parent I never send my child in if they are ill, that's about as offensive as me saying all stay at home parents should stop drinking coffee and be volunteering to work in school and bake a few more cakes for the PTA as they have nothing else to do hmm

The awards that really annoy me are star of the week - can anyone explain how in a whole year a child does nothing of note?? Nothing if personal achievement or effort?? Even if its incredibly difficult to find something there must be something? That reward system is arbitrary and flawed, if I worked for an employer that used a system I didn't understand and couldn't explain and had no quality measure I'd be really upset... But that's another thread smile

stormforce10 Wed 02-Jan-13 10:58:57

its a stupid criteria on which to qward prizes. last year by sheer luck and good health dd got 100% attendance. this year shes already had 3 days off with a stomach bug. yet as she sat throwing her gits up in a bucket she was begging to be allowed to go to school as if I didn't let her she would not get the certificate this year.

its rediculous they really need to scrap it anjd reward other things angry

CaptainVonTrapp Thu 03-Jan-13 21:19:28

Ours had a trip to a local ice rink. You guessed it, in school time...

(Love to know where the money comes from for these ridiculous awards)

amck5700 Thu 03-Jan-13 21:49:41

My son had 100% attendance for 5 years in a row - he was being bullied for 3 of those. He got feck all. Oh actually he got a certificate one year that had been printed off/photocopied - it didn't have his name on and was dated June 1996 - he wasn't born until 2000.

Yes, we were lucky that he is extremely healthy, but we also never took him out of school for holidays and he never just refused to go despite the bullying. He'd have been ecstatic with a book token.

chickensarmpit Thu 03-Jan-13 22:00:28

Hmmm i'm on the bench a bit with this one.
On one hand i have a son with Dwayne syndrome so he has time off school for appointments with that.
Yet i have a healthy child who loves school and is never off.

Should we stop all awards in case we offend or upset children who are ill/disabled? Or should we praise children who turn up on time everyday.
Also just because parents work, doesn't mean they will send their children into school ill.
It doesn't matter what anyone does, someone will always be offended.

amck5700 Thu 03-Jan-13 22:07:54

NotLongUntilXmas I had a friend who's son was in hospital with a ruptured appendix - in Intensive care - no other absences.......and they got a letter about his attendance being below target and saying that they were watching him hmm

CaptainVonTrapp Fri 04-Jan-13 21:34:59

Perhaps we could think of some awards that aren't based on sheer good luck (or bad luck as the case may be) chickens? Also that the child has some control over - rather that the parent.

NewFerry Sat 05-Jan-13 20:19:00

Erm, what about effort put into a piece of work during the school day?
Or, keeping your workspace or book drawer tidy
Or, recognising resilience and awarding a child for having a go at something they find scarey, whether its singing in the choir, or tackling the climbing wall.

Except, the cynic in me thinks that whilst theses are all good targets that will help children grow into resilient, conscientious, adults who are willing to give their all, ofsted only like specific measurable targets in which they can apply a tick box methodology

RaisinBoys Sat 05-Jan-13 20:26:10

Well put NewFerry.

Couldn't agree more

LavenderPots Sat 05-Jan-13 20:36:38

we had a assembly once a year then at end of yr 11 their was one boy that had not missed a day in 5yrs - first person to do it in however long ya-da-ya-daya-da massive build up, call out his name.....he's off ill....

Southwest Sun 06-Jan-13 23:10:24

Completely inappropriate I'm with the book token but only if everyone gets one (I do think no one should)

I have 2 kids dc2 is super compliant easy to teach bright funny kind you get the picture dc1 is difficult disruptive poorly coordinated rubbish at sport poorly organised etc etc

The fact that dc2 received a 100 percent perfect attendance record with no lates and dc1 received over 10 lates must try harder kind of report just shows how totally crap the whole idea is and the fact that such useless data is collected analyses and used to decide who gets what and what goes on school reports is breathtaking IMHO !!

amck5700 Sun 06-Jan-13 23:25:08

I have a son who is academically at the top of his class - behaves immaculately, has never ever lost any Golden time in 6 and a half years, works hard I'm told - has perfect school reports, is polite, responsible and mature - he can be a little chatty but stops when asked - this is all taken from his school reports and parents nights not my own view. In virtually every report report I am told he is a pleasure to teach - the only thing he is ever told to work on is his handwriting which could be neater.

He has had 100% attendance, with no lates for 5 out of those years.

He has only ever managed to get star pupil twice. - 30 odd kids in the class, 40 weeks of school - you'd think there might be some opportunity for him to get it wouldn't you??

The whole thing is a farce.

colditz Sun 06-Jan-13 23:27:19

As the mother of two asthmatics, I think these attendance awards are a complete pile of shit.

amck5700 Sun 06-Jan-13 23:32:18

colditz - i don't mind them per se, as long as there are a variety of awards that all children have a chance of wining, Not everyone can be good at everything, so if there is a mix of academic awards, sporting awards, creative awards, behaviour awards then attendance can be part of that mix. Your children may not have a chance in the attendance stakes, but may be very musical or clever - some kids might not have much going for them other than they turn up every day which could be an achievement in itself.

Southwest Mon 07-Jan-13 09:23:43

Annoyingly things like this are used to judge our children though and assign worthiness whether it be for school reports or prizes or simply whose mother gets to accompany the school trip.

In our school again all the prizes went to the daughter of someone who helped out in the school it was really incredibly blatant and incredibly annoying you just looked at some of the kids and knew their chance of winning a prize for anything on merit was very low, surely they should be top priority for the reception nice sitting prize!!

cory Mon 07-Jan-13 13:54:30

The difficulty to me used to lie in persuading a recalcitrant child that dutifully attending her painful and laborious medical treatment was as worthy as merely sitting in a classroom, when the school were so obviously saying the opposite.

Otoh my lazy son who never does a stroke of work at school unless bullied by his teachers and parents can feel comfortable that his mere physical presence makes him more worthy.

treesntrees Tue 08-Jan-13 19:53:10

The Head Teacher of the smallish primary my children first attended had a prize giving ceremony towards the end of each school year and believe me every child got a prize for something ranging from academic excellence to someone who was always the first to comfort a child who had fallen over or always held the door open for teachers. Her imagination was boundless and each child beamed when they went up to get their prize. She also celebrated each child's birthday with a present and the whole school singing Happy Birthday. Like I said a smallish school with tiny classrooms holding fifteen or sixteen children. No reason why similar can't be done on a class basis though.

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