Male primary school teachers.

(82 Posts)
Snowfire Sat 17-Nov-12 19:30:25

I'm a governor at our small (3 mixed year classes) primary school. Four years ago, the three teachers were all older ladies. When the first one retired, she was replaced by a young newly qualified male teacher who really changed the dynamics of the school. The children love him and now four years on, we couldn't imagine not having him in the school!
Last year another teacher announced she was planning to retire so we advertised again for an NQT and had loads of applications. At interview, the best candidate by far was another young man so we then had 2 male teachers.
The lady teacher in the EYFS (R & yr1) has decided to retire at Xmas so we are (once again) recruiting. Short listing yesterday showed only one outstanding candidate who is again male! The HT has met him and says he seems wonderful but this would mean we would have an all male teaching staff. HT is concerned that parents may be put off by this & TBH, I can see what she means but should this be an issue?

OutInAllWeathers Sat 17-Nov-12 19:32:41

Why would it be an issue when many schools have an all female staff? If he is the right candidate then so be it!

HogInABog Sat 17-Nov-12 19:35:08

Some schools have an all female teaching staff so I suppose this isn't really any different. It does seem odd but only, I think, because in most schools most of the teachers are women. I see no reason, as a female primary teacher, that this shouldn't be a social norm that is challenged.

It's an odd one!

HogInABog Sat 17-Nov-12 19:36:48

Ps. I think a lot of boys' parents would find
an all male teaching staff appealing.

bitsofmeworkjustfine Sat 17-Nov-12 19:40:45

i dont see the problem either.

we have 1 1/2 classes in each year, so not all of them get in a particular class. we have one male teacher ( who is fab... we love you Mr Bryant)

if children dont get put in his class the parents all complain!

I want my DD taught by the best and i dont care if they are male/female, gay/straight, whichever or no religeon and their colour doesnt even come into it, neither does disability. If they are the best then I want my dd in thier class.

LynetteScavo Sat 17-Nov-12 19:40:51

Well, you absolutely can't discriminate on sex, so if they are by far the best candidate.....
Is the head female? (sorry if I've missed this). I'm wondering if the head might be worried of feeling out numbered in the staff room.

How many TAs and are they female? I do think it's nice to have a balance of male, female staff, regardless of their roles.

SoupDragon Sat 17-Nov-12 19:41:55

I don't think it would put anyone off. I was never put off by an all female teaching staff. The school wold be on very shaky ground if they rejected him on the basis of his sex.

Actually I think it would be a selling point for the school.

But agree that it is moot since you can't consider sex when hiring.

cece Sat 17-Nov-12 19:44:07

You must recruit the best candidate regardless of gender, ethnicity and so on surely?

littleducks Sat 17-Nov-12 19:45:26

I might be a bit apprehensive if all the teachers were male, I definitely marked down schools with all female staff when I did the rounds.

I expect that there will be more balance with 3 male teachers though if the lsa and ta and office and admin staff are female. It probably doesn't even things out yet!

exoticfruits Sat 17-Nov-12 19:48:47

Sounds fine to me-you need the best person for the job.

simpson Sat 17-Nov-12 20:08:12

DS (now yr3) had a male teacher in yr1 and yr2 (not the same teacher) and it was great...

Tbh I agree, it should be about who is best for the job...

Snowfire Sat 17-Nov-12 20:43:11

Thanks everyone, I think the HT might be having a bit of a culture shock with the idea of having all these young men around grin
We do have a TA in each class and they are all female so there would still be a balance. It's nice to hear that this could be viewed as a positive, I really want us to get the best candidate too! He sounds fab on paper so will have to see how he comes across at interview!

rhetorician Sat 17-Nov-12 20:45:37

totally wouldn't bother me - on the contrary in fact. We are a same-sex couple, and although the girls' dad is involved in their lives, it would be fabulous for them to have a man in their lives in a day-to-day way, and to see a man looking after and nurturing children.

sausagesandwich34 Sat 17-Nov-12 21:03:39

I think it's brilliant that the number of male primary teachers is on the up I have no statistical proof for this by the way, but in the local primaries they all have several

I would have no problem sending the DCs to the shool on that basis

chloe74 Sat 17-Nov-12 21:26:49

I find the younger male teachers work harder to overcome this sort of prejudice in Primary and thus tend to be better teachers. Given the choice you would be mad not to choose the BEST teacher for your school.

And dare I say it if he didn't get the job and saw this thread he could sue the school big time!!!

Bobyan Sat 17-Nov-12 21:29:39

Apparently boys respond better to male role models - I wish my ds's school had an equal mix of male and female teachers.

Nagoo Sat 17-Nov-12 21:41:40

you need to take on the best candidate.

ThePathanKhansWitch Sat 17-Nov-12 21:47:04

My dd has a male teacher, she,s in reception.She adores him! And blushes when she talks about him.

I def think male staff is a selling point.

prettydaisies Sat 17-Nov-12 21:53:40

We are a 2 form entry primary school, so haven't quite reached the point of having a totally male teaching staff! However one year, both reception teachers were male. I don't think we'd thought about it particularly, but I know that some prospective parents thought it was a bit odd. Whether it stopped anyone applying, I don't know.

Mandy21 Sat 17-Nov-12 22:04:29

I'm all for male teachers and completely agree that I'd see it as a selling point. I have a boy and a girl and it was great for both of them to have a male teacher (even though I'd thought it was a particular positive for my DS, it was massively popular with my DD too). It all depends on whether they're good teachers or not - sounds like they are so I'd definitely see it as a big plus for the school.

sparkle12mar08 Sat 17-Nov-12 22:06:50

We just lost both our permanent male teacher and a temporary male cover teacher in a different post in one term. Most parents are extremely disappointed as the staff is now all female. I'd love to have another male teacher, and preferably two or three more, in school!

Vivalebeaver Sat 17-Nov-12 22:09:09

My dd loved her male teachers at primary school. In fact we chose her second primary school because her class would have a male teacher!

lljkk Sat 17-Nov-12 22:11:25

I think yours is a lucky school.
Doubt MN opinion reflects popular opinion, though. sad

We have 3 male teachers at DC school, and lots of women teachers.

DD is very sporty & the male teachers seem to have done a lot more than the women teachers might have to facilitate her sporty talent.

steppemum Sat 17-Nov-12 22:22:03

Is the head female?

I think there would be a lot of practical problems if you had all male staff. So I am assuming you have TAs, Are they female? Is the head female?

I am thinking of things like kids wetting themselves and needing help, which should not, in good practice, be a male teahcer with female child. Or older child starting periods and having issues.
But as long as there are female staff around and involved, then it should be best candidate.

I think as well, the head would need to be aware of the imbalance and make sure it wasn't affecting practice. (I think all female schools do risk becoming imbalanced too)

You have no guarantee that they will stay anyway, you may be recruiting again in a year, male teachers do tend to be a bit more likely to move every few years to accumulate a good variety of experience on their cv

I nearly didn't send our dcs to the school they go to as it was all female, and I have a ds.

Startail Sat 17-Nov-12 22:28:41

I'd worry slightly if all teachers were male and all support staff and TAs were female.

I have two DDs and I don't want them to think men are always in the senior role.

Especially as I'm a SAHM.

I'm delighted the mixed secondary has a female HT since the only male at the primary was HT

steppemum Sat 17-Nov-12 22:32:22

I agree startail, but I think head is female??

chloe74 Sat 17-Nov-12 22:47:32

Still sounds like there is some predjuice against male teachers. I feel its sets the female equality at work debate back when we suggest discriminating against teachers just because they are male.

SoupDragon Sat 17-Nov-12 22:51:19

But as long as there are female staff around and involved, then it should be best candidate.

No, it should be best candidate. Anything else is sexual discrimination.

...I am thinking of things like kids wetting themselves and needing help, which should not, in good practice, be a male teahcer with female child.

But a female teacher with a male child is fine? Why is that exactly?

DeadTall Sat 17-Nov-12 23:04:27

Surely you have to recruit based on the best candidate? As SoupDragon rightly points out - anything else would be discrimination and the school could be taken to an employment tribunal if you deliberately didn't hire someone simply because of their gender - that's illegal.

On the subject of whether parents would object - I certainly wouldn't, but I do know many who might raise an eyebrow. The important things like the school's ethos, the standards of teaching and pastoral care are more important than the teaching staff gender mix, IMO.

dikkertjedap Sat 17-Nov-12 23:10:41

As the HT is female and the TAs are female, your school won't have all male staff ...

I don't think that it is a problem at all BTW. If they are the best candidates then they should get the job. My only worry would be if you always only take on NQT, where would the experience come from or don't you value teaching experience much?

youonlysingwhenyourewinning Sat 17-Nov-12 23:13:56

You have to go for the best candidate.

As a parent, I wouldn't particularly like it.
One of the things that is really missing in my dd's school, is the presence of a male teacher. There isn't one single one. I think the children miss out by not having a mix and for that reason, I wouldn't like it.

I don't think there's anything you can do about it though.

Fairenuff Sun 18-Nov-12 21:25:11

I don't think you should be a governor if you are considering sexual discrimination in your recruitment process.

MrsMelons Sun 18-Nov-12 22:08:46

Both my boys (age 4 & 6) have male teachers. They are amazing and the boys have progressed amazingly. In fact DS1 has progressed a whole level in his writing since the end of the summer term (3 sub levels) since swapping from the female teacher he had before.

I have nothing against the female teacher of course - just don't think she inspired him in his writing. It is not the marking that is inconsistent or anything as all their levelled work is moderated and in fact it was moderated as higher than the male teacher had originally marked.

The boys relate so well to the male teachers but also the girls seem to 'hero worship' them and I know most of the girls in DS1s school think he is the best teacher in the school.

rrbrigi Mon 19-Nov-12 10:45:05

My son's teacher is female and she is a lovely teacher (my son loves her a lot), however I think a male teacher would be better for him just to teach him some discipline and to be a role model for him.

SoupDragon Mon 19-Nov-12 11:50:57

rrbrigi your DS needs a teacher with stronger discipline, not a male teacher.

Teachers are good and bad irrespective of their gender.

HouseOfBamboo Mon 19-Nov-12 13:21:20

I think what the OP is concerned about is the question of whether ideally a school should have a mix of male and female teachers (all other things being equal)? Difficult when you have a very small school and a limited number of teachers in the first place though.

Personally I think a mix is good and it wouldn't be ideal social role modelling if all the teachers were male and all the TAs female - there should be a mix of male and female TAs too.

BUT no, you absolutely can't discriminate on grounds of sex if the male applicants are clearly better, and the interview panel can say hand on heart that they aren't biased towards male candidates.

Re the 'male discipline' comment - I can only say that the very scariest teachers I have had have all been female!

zingally Mon 19-Nov-12 13:22:30

It is unusual, yes. But if he's the best candidate, then go for it!!

PLEASE don't not appoint him, just because he's male. Because if anyone got a wiff of that, you'll be done for sexual discrimination. It does work both ways.

owlelf Mon 19-Nov-12 13:33:12

Without question you have to employ the best person for the job.

This comment from upthread has confused me: "^I am thinking of things like kids wetting themselves and needing help, which should not, in good practice, be a male teacher with female child.^". What is this all about? Is it OK for a female teacher help out a female child but not vice-versa? Surely not?

lisad123 Mon 19-Nov-12 13:35:35

Dd1 is on her 3rd year of a male teacher. It's really not a problem and in fact been great as she finds males are clearer about what they want and are straight forward and easy to read (she has Asd)

Fairenuff Mon 19-Nov-12 20:39:48

owlelf teachers (or more often, teaching assistants) just help children to change themselves if they have an accident. Sorting out dry clothes, providing a bag to put wet things in and a private area to change, that sort of thing. There is usually no need to touch the child.

If the child does need help to clean themselves, it is good practice to have one member of staff help and another to be present. It doesn't matter if they are male or female for KS1 children.

ccarpenton Mon 19-Nov-12 20:52:58

"Ps. I think a lot of boys' parents would find an all male teaching staff appealing."

Really? I think they'd be very territorial actually.

MogTheForgetfulCat Mon 19-Nov-12 21:59:52

It wouldn't bother me at all. It drives me crackers that at the primary school my DSs attend, the only male teachers are the head and the games teacher, whereas all the others are women. I think this doesn't send a great message to the children - all these lovely, brilliant female teachers, but they need a man at the helm. And a man to teach manly things like sport. So more male class teachers would be great, IMO.

As a female teacher, I sometimes get a bit exhasperated by views such as "I think a male teacher would be better for him just to teach him some discipline". Actually, I can do discipline, inspiration, motivation ... exactly as well as my male colleagues. Some of the more traditional of our parents are suprised by this.

xkcdfangirl Mon 19-Nov-12 23:07:30

I completely agree that you should appoint the best candidate for the job - but you and the other people on the recruitment panel need to think very carefully about how you are defining what you are looking for in a candidate, how you are visualising the "best candidate" - if you are subconsciously thinking something like "we need someone with as much energy and dynamism as Mr Smith" you may be picturing a male appointee in your mind and this could be subconsciously pushing you to not noticing excellent but different qualities in female candidates?

On the other hand - it is also possible that the principal of "birds of a feather flock together" is at play here. I know a man who is currently training to be a primary school teacher, who is adamant that he will not be applying for any job where he would be the only male teacher in the school. If lots of male teachers feel similarly it may simply be that your school is seen as a particularly desirable place to work if you are a male teacher, and therefore there is a much greater chance of a very high quality candidate being from this gender.

auntevil Mon 19-Nov-12 23:48:19

Personally I think a mix in any working environment is the healthiest - it gives the best of each.
I have had the pleasure experience of working in an all female bar 1 environment, and being the only female in another. Neither ideal because of the imbalance.
My children's school has male only senior management - and I think it is reflected in some of the new policies. Go getting and less thought to family practicalities.
Having said all that - go for the best person for the job every time.

SoupDragon Tue 20-Nov-12 07:21:29

"Ps. I think a lot of boys' parents would find an all male teaching staff appealing."

Really? I think they'd be very territorial actually.

What on earth does that mean?!

Our school was female only (bar the caretaker) for many years. I remember that the head was exasperated at this but the fact was that they didn't get any male applicants of the right calibre. There are, I think, now 3 male teachers. One of whom is (or was) a jobshare with a female one to enable him look after his children X days per week.

poshfrock Tue 20-Nov-12 07:41:53

Presumably this wasn't an issue when you had three female teachers (ie the ones who have all just retired)? So why is it an issue now to have three male teachers? You just pick the best people for the job. My DD had a male teacher for Years 1,2 and 3 and loved them. If you also have female TAs and a female HT then I think you have a good balance. My DSS's primary school was entirely female which I found a bit odd.

Ladymuck Tue 20-Nov-12 08:50:11

Ds's school now has all 4 junior class teachers being male as well as the art teacher and the sports teacher. It is becoming more difficult for residential trips, and also for supervising changing for games. Not unmanageable, just not as easy as when there were both genders as class teachers. But the head did explain that at the point when she was recruiting the newest member of staff it was clear to her that the best candidate was a man. I suspect that it is more offputting for parents of girls and I'll be interested to see how they manage to cover sex education under the new set-up.

BeatTheClock Tue 20-Nov-12 09:09:08

It wouldn't put me off at all. Its good to see male teachers in primary schools; I think for too long it's been an environment top heavy with women.

rrbrigi Tue 20-Nov-12 11:26:47

I would like to appologize. I did not mean to hurt any female teachers feeling. I do think a female teacher can be as good as a male teacher and vice versa. thanks

owlelf Tue 20-Nov-12 12:56:00

I'm confused by the suggestions that male teachers can't supervise girls changing for PE, assist children who have had accidents or teach sex education in the same way as female teachers.

Could someone clarify whether male teachers are restricted in these tasks in a different way to female teachers please?

I had hoped that there wouldn't be a difference, but several posts suggest that there is.

AngelsWithSilverWings Tue 20-Nov-12 13:15:57

Last night I suggested to my DS aged 7 that he could be a teacher when he grows up ( he was helping his sister with her phonics).

He looked at me in disgust and said "don't be stupid Mum, I don't want to be working with girls all day"

He honestly believes that only women can be teachers because it's all he has ever known.

He was amazed when I told him that half the teachers at my (1970's) primary school were men.

We absolutely need more male primary school teachers.

SoupDragon Tue 20-Nov-12 13:50:12

I agree, Owlef. Heaven knows what they did when the only male member of staff at DDs was the caretaker. hmm All those poor little boys... sad

Ladymuck Tue 20-Nov-12 14:07:16

In the schools which my children have gone to, owlelf, children have always had one sex education lesson in single sex groups taught by a teacher of the same gender. That may now be a challenge given that all junior school teachers are male. It would equally be a challenge if all the teachers are female, but we have never had that position. We have always had at least one male teacher. Presumably in all female-teacher schools, the boys miss out that session? Or perhaps it happens but is led by a female teacher?

Ditto supervising Year 6 girls and boys getting changed in separate changing rooms. Until this year we have had staff of both genders so it has not been a problem. I think that I would have more of an issue with a male teacher supervising the girls than vice versa, but that is mainly due to the fact that more girls will have hit puberty at that stage whereas the reverse would not be true.

I do think that having girls hitting puberty earlier does make a difference. It can be harder for a girl to have to talk to her male teacher about periods and how these are handled within a primary school environment. Eg in some school not all school toilets are fitted with san bins, and girls may have to use staff toilets. I do think that in the event that a year 6 girl has "an accident" with her period, then she should have access to a female teacher where possible. I have every respect for the male teachers at ds's school, but there are a couple who would probably be out of their depth if faced by that situation!

SoupDragon Tue 20-Nov-12 14:10:00

Our primary school must have used the caretaker then hmm Or possibly not worried about this kind of nonsense.

Ladymuck Tue 20-Nov-12 14:14:21

What sort of nonsense? If the caretaker was the only female adult in the school then presumably she would be the one called upon to help out the year 6 girls? Though as the person most familiar with the school sanitation system, may also be the most qualified grin.

Lifeissweet Tue 20-Nov-12 14:29:28

I have to agree that I find the whole attitude to male primary school teachers a bit...irritating.

In my experience, they are not discriminated against at all - in fact most of the reactions on here are the ones I hear most often about male teachers - i.e. 'They are wonderful role models', 'They can inspire the boys', 'They are better at discipline'...etc.

The male teachers I have worked with (and male TAs - we have 2 of those currently as well as 3 male learning mentors) have been the same mixed bag as the women - some people are better teachers than others. The best sports teachers on our (mixed) staff are women. The two with the best reputation for discipline are women. Being male or female means absolutely nothing.

Yes, I do agree that we need more male role models in schools- I don't dispute that at all, but that is about recruiting more men to train as TAs and teachers and then employing the best ones in schools. Then maybe some of these assumptions of male teachers vs female teachers will go away. It's a non-issue.

Lifeissweet Tue 20-Nov-12 14:33:24

When I say there's no discrimination, I mean in terms of employment. I am, however, horrified at the suggestion that men can't help children change. Eh?

In my year 5 class, the girls and boys are separated for PE and, as I am on my own when they change, one group changes in the cloakroom and the other in the classroom. Sometimes the boys are the ones with me in the classroom because there are a few colourful characters who can't be trusted without adult supervision in the cloakroom. Should I be banned from doing that?! Am I a risk to anyone?

Lifeissweet Tue 20-Nov-12 14:38:18

I also think that male teachers are capable of sensitively and sensibly dealing with periods without actually having experience of it themselves. If they can't then I would worry about their suitability to teach given that a lot of the job involves empathy and understanding. It might be a good thing that girls talk to men about these things and realise that they are not secret female things, but a part of life that men are perfectly capable of handling.

owlelf Tue 20-Nov-12 18:31:32

I totally agree with you lifeissweet

Catsnotrats Tue 20-Nov-12 20:47:06

Seconded lifeissweet.

I work in a school with a significant (although still minority) number of male staff at all levels, from the head to the cleaners. I've seen the good, bad and the ugly from them just as much as I have from female teachers. In fact the two worst examples of teachers I have encountered have been male, and a large part of their issues was the arrogance that just because they were male they were somehow better at the job.

Interestingly this morning on bbc breakfast they raised this subject, and interviewed a young male teacher and an older male deputy. The deputy was fine, however I did find myself shouting at the TV when the young guy said that boys responded better to his discipline than to any of their other female teachers. I'd be interested to see what he is actually like on the job.

Catsnotrats Tue 20-Nov-12 20:49:14

Oh and the period thing. My two year 5&6 male colleagues are perfectly happy talking and supporting this issue. One has two teenage daughters, the other is a raging feminist (his words!). I don't think it would cross their minds that they shouldn't deal with it.

socharlotte Tue 20-Nov-12 22:09:05

Oh and the period thing. My two year 5&6 male colleagues are perfectly happy talking and supporting this issue

It's not a question of whether the teachers are happy , it's a question of whether the girls are comfortable with this arrangement.

socharlotte Tue 20-Nov-12 22:10:45

The law is that you have to appoint the best candidate.End of.

(btw I don' like the use of the term 'lady teacher' very much either)

ninah Tue 20-Nov-12 22:13:37

I'd really love it if women went into a traditionally male industry and were greeted with a similarly effusive and uncritical welcome
Agree with all those who say it should be the best PERSON for the job
Now, what kind of dick shall I grow for tomorrow's Maths hmm

gabsid Sat 01-Dec-12 11:13:16

I think this would be good for a lot of the boys, as they are often left behind a bit by the fact that they are not quite mature enough and a lack of role models with an often all female staff.

Goofygoober79 Mon 10-Dec-12 10:55:35

I'm a female teacher, but being gay I'm not the kind of girly teacher who is so often portrayed as being dominant in our Primary schools (untrue, as there is a mix of all sorts of women and men). I do feel a lot of the time that it's hard to 'fit in', which presumably men feel too (unless they are gay :D).
Boys respond to me well, but then again so do the girls, which leads me to think that actually it's the TEACHER, not the gender, that is important.
I've worked in a lot of schools, with many different male teachers. Some are excellent - and then get recognised and moved up the ladder far more quickly than equally competent females, but that's another issue. But a LOT of male teachers I've worked with have been lazy, arrogant, messy, disorganised, badly-prepared, and expect their (female) colleagues to do e.g. the photocopying, get the stuff ready, tidy their classrooms and tell them what they're supposed to be doing. Yes, the kids love them - that doesn't make them the best teacher!
When working on supply, I caught a male teacher telling a few girls to tidy out the boys' trays as 'they were too busy with football training'! He looked very sheepish when I glared at him smile
Being in a same-sex female partnership, I would love our children to have a positive male role model - but not at the expense of good teaching. If the man is the best candidate, then great, but if not, then hire the more able female. I've known female teachers who have walked out of interviews because there was a male candidate and, having lost out many many times to men, feel that it is pointless staying in the process. That's a bit dramatic I think (I got my job over a male candidate) but illustrates that whilst men are a minority in Primary teaching, those that are there can either be lazy and keep their jobs or be average and rise to the top!

This post was aimed at the people who were singing the praises of male teachers, rather than the OP who was wondering whether it would be good to have an all-male teaching staff. I neither agree nor disagree with an all-male staff. It depends on whether or not they are good teachers - and a Governor is not always the best person to judge!

BieneMaja Mon 10-Dec-12 22:52:40

I love that DDs TA is male in fact I just love him full stop the only drawback is that I am in love with have a silly girls crush on him confused

Hobbitation Mon 17-Dec-12 16:20:25

DD's school has more male teachers and TAs than mine did in the 80s. Three class teachers and two TAs. We had only one class teacher and the head at my school.

Also the nursery is run by man, who also works in it, and there is another nursery teacher who is a young lad. So about 25% of the staff there.

alanyoung Tue 08-Jan-13 20:46:53

Unfortunately too many children these days come from broken homes and in my experience more are placed with the mother than with the father. This means that in primary schools where the majority of teachers are female, children can spend their whole life entirely in female adult company which can't be healthy, whether they are boys or girls. Having more male teachers will tend to even out the experiences of these particular children and that can only be good for them, by and large.

Elibean Tue 08-Jan-13 22:44:53

We have an almost equal number of men and women teaching at the dds' primary now - which I think is brilliant!

Pooka Tue 08-Jan-13 22:50:53

Same here Elibean! grin

While I think recruitment should be based on merit, I've always been pleased when it has so happened that the best candidate has been a bloke. I have two sons and a daughter and I do like the fact that they all have had/will have a mix of male and female teachers because it reflects real life. Also ds currently has a man/woman job share so he gets a real mix. Best of both worlds.

MumVsKids Tue 08-Jan-13 22:54:02

The best teacher by far at DDs primary is the NQT male who started 3 years ago.

He's fresh, funny, brilliant with the kids, and a really positive male role model.

he's also nice eye candy on the playground of a morning wink

realcoalfire Wed 09-Jan-13 11:39:44

At my DNs primary school they have had to make arrangements with the LEA to second a maler teacher from another school for the Y6 residential trip. He is a secondary school teacher who is also a parent of one of the pupils at the primary)

realcoalfire Wed 09-Jan-13 11:40:30

When men are good with kids, they are really good.

AThingInYourLife Wed 09-Jan-13 12:35:03

"Given the choice you would be mad not to choose the BEST teacher for your school."

Given the choice you would be breaking the law not to choose the best candidate for the job you advertised.

AThingInYourLife Wed 09-Jan-13 12:36:57

"Given the choice you would be mad not to choose the BEST teacher for your school."

hmm

Yeah, like with cooking.

Women will do, but if you want really high quality in a chef, choose a man.

Hulababy Wed 09-Jan-13 12:48:26

If there is still a mix of genders working with children it's fine I think.
My only concern would be if there was no female teaching staff that girls can go to as they get older, start maturing, maybe set periods etc. I do think girls need a female they can confide in and go to for such circumstances. So long as that aspect is covered then I see no problem.

Hulababy Wed 09-Jan-13 12:52:17

Re periods - I'm talking from the point of view of the child, not the teacher. Many little girls would struggle with seeing a male teacher if they get caught out and need help or supplies.

I would have no problem with all male teachers. I have no idea if this is the same everywhere but at my childrens school if a boy has wet himself or whatever a male member of staff always deals with it - if a girl has a female one does. SO they have male teaching assistants as well as female.

Hulababy Wed 09-Jan-13 17:06:14

I work in am infants and if a little boy has an accident then it is generally still a female member of staff who deals with them. We do have a male teacher and a male TA but they currently work in Y2, so not really something that occurs.

I do think infant is very different to older juniors though, and especially when dealing with the first periods, etc.

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