How to deal with this?

(31 Posts)

This is going to sound like bragging - it really isn't, I am genuinely concerned. dd6 is pretty smart - and I am sick to death with her coming home from school fed up and miserable with the 'easy' work they are doing in year 2. She came home today with a book she had, in her words 'sneaked out to read' - it's a treetops level 14 book and she has just finished it. There is no gitted and talented register at her school - all groups are mixed ability and her homework is along the lines of 'recite to a family member the 5 times table up to 100' I have posted before that we are putting her in for a prep school exam - she took the pre test last week and we have been advised that she will have no problem passing it...but at the moment, she is getting more and more miserable and sick of going in to school and being, sorry to use the word, bored.

I just wondered if anyone had any advice on how I can help her. I have spoken to her teacher but she just tuts and repeats the 'mixed ability' policy. I want to help, so please don;t flame me sad

simpson Fri 05-Oct-12 21:39:03

Does she definitely understand and comprehend what she is reading???

How long till the exam?? Can you play the waiting game till then??

birthdaypanic Fri 05-Oct-12 21:41:53

As simpson says does she comprehend what she is reading I have many children in my class that are fluent readers can read anything you give them but have no comprehension for this reason they are given easier books to read.

Totally - she's just told me the plot, the characters and the ending of the story! The exam is in jan, so I guess we will wait - I just don't want her to get despondant and give up! She is constantly asking questions and telling us things we didn't know (or had forgotten!) so we do or best to keep her going as it were, I cold just do with a bit more input and support from her teacher i guess.

kilmuir Fri 05-Oct-12 21:42:38

Mixed ability does not mean all on the same work though, well it should n't
I would have thought the teacher would have assessedthe correct level for each child

simpson Fri 05-Oct-12 21:46:45

To me understanding the story means stopping half way through the book and asking her what is going to happen next, what might this character do etc etc not just re-telling the story to you when she has finished it(not saying your DD cannot do this btw but that might be something to work on).

Also looking at hidden messages within the text rather than just what is obviously written iyswim....

alcofrolic Fri 05-Oct-12 22:04:39

Even if a child finds academic work straightforward, there should be far more going on at school than that! Does you child know about all the history/geography/science being covered? Is it all about reading and times tables? Do they paint, do drama, PE, music, ICT..... fun stuff?

It baffles me how a Y2 child can be 'bored'. It really does. I'm teaching it, and I don't get bored (and I know my 5x table). I learn loads of new things.

It annoys me beyond belief that she comes home fed up because she's bored and I hate using that word. She does do all the other subjects as quickliy and easily and is a really talented artist too. The 'mixed ability' thing in her class means that even in their small groups, they are mixed. In her end of year one SATS level she got 2b's in all three. I know, just know, this sounds like bragging and I don't want it to come across like that - she isn't pfb by the way - but number 3!! What I really am asking I guess, is how do I raise this with the teacher again without sounding like a pushy parent from hell, and what more can we do at home to keep her going??

Doodlekitty Sat 06-Oct-12 10:21:54

I thought a gifted and talented register was a legal requirement

mrz Sat 06-Oct-12 10:29:58

I would expect more from a stage 14 reader that plot, character and ending. I would be looking for inference, interpreting author's intention and use of language plus much more.

PropositionJoe Sat 06-Oct-12 10:30:20

Go to the library every week. Buy her sudoku books. Teach her piano. Go to art galleries and museums. It's not hard at this age.

I will check re: the gifted and talented register, however, I was informed by her teacher that this did not exist at the school - she just made me feel about two inches high. Thanks for all your input - we do go to the library regularly and she is wierdly starting piano lessons next week as we've just been left a piano! Hopefully these things will help if the school continues to be not very helpful.

RillaBlythe Sat 06-Oct-12 10:54:15

I thought G&T registers are optional now?

Doodlekitty Sat 06-Oct-12 11:09:25

Maybe I'm wrong, been out of the classroom a while

zipzap Sat 06-Oct-12 11:17:42

Have you told the teacher that she is routinely bored at school or was it just in terms of reading?

If you tell the teacher again and get the same response - there's no way a bright child should be bored every day in y2, everybody can have the odd thing that they are bored by but to never come home and say they have learnt something interesting or new is bad - then I would escalate it to the head and if she's not bothered then I'd go to ofsted and see if they can advise on how to approach the school and make lessons interesting (at least some of the time!) for your dd.

In year one, her teacher was lovely and very understanding - she would set her some extra things to do and dd would come home happy. The year two teacher is extremely 'off' each time I approach her, which I have now three times. It's not just reading, it's most things. DD picks it all up really quickly, comes home, wanting to find out more about the subject, whatever it is, so we do that - she will go into school the next day and brightly tell the teacher some extras she has learnt to which the teacher will respond along the lines of, yes we're covering that today, you need to stay quiet and let the others find out (I heard her say this about some information dd had learned at home about the great fire of London) Subsequently, dd comes home that evening really fed up as she had to sit through what she had found out herself at home. Perhaps i should stop her doing it and make her wait until the next day?? I may take it to the SENCO - just hate making a fuss, but on the other hand want dd to be happy!

simpson Sat 06-Oct-12 12:33:47

What level reading books is she getting at school???

Can you set her some project work at home ie making her own book using photos/pictures and writing etc....

It is a good way to teach her what the contents page is for the index and the blurb etc etc....

she's on 'white' level at school. Yesterday, we did just that - she 'made' a book and drew the title page and wrote the information on the back. I don't mind doing things like this at all, in fact i really enjoy it (!) but I then worry that by doing extra work, she'll be in the postion again, of sitting quietly listening to what she already knows.

PropositionJoe Sat 06-Oct-12 14:38:58

Do something completely different then. Get some really complicated Lego and let her take the lead. Research one of the countries of the world and make a folder about it. Teach her how to play scrabble and bananagrams. Learn origami.

Silibilimili Sat 06-Oct-12 14:41:37

I agree with the poster previous to me. Sounds like a sound plan. Exactly what I am doing with my dd.

PropositionJoe Sat 06-Oct-12 14:55:28

It worked for my two. Most state primaries will never stretch the very brightest, but when they are small children it's not hard to do it at home.

mrz Sat 06-Oct-12 15:06:38

How many state primaries have you personally investigated to come up with that statement PropositionJoe?

Emandlu Sat 06-Oct-12 15:12:22

Have you thought about getting her to learn a language or music or similar? My mum bought me a recorder and a recorder book when I was little and I taught myself to read music and play it.
The BBC websites do various language bits for kids that might stretch her a bit.

If you want her to stay in school then you may have to look at moving schools if the one she is in wont help. I ended up home educating when in this position.

It's funny - most of the things everyone is suggesting, I do pretty much do! She is learning German from me and did French at nursery so we are trying to keep her up with that. She is starting piano lessons next week and she tends to do her own little 'projects', for example she researched planets one week and made a 'book' all about them. As I said, though i sometimes think we shouldn't be doing too much at home in case it makes her even more fed up at school. Origami sounds like a good plan smile

Nishky Sat 06-Oct-12 16:08:16

Perhaps you are doing too much at home and she can not cope without constant stimulus? Just a thought.

Interesting point.

PropositionJoe Sat 06-Oct-12 17:31:43

Nah, they can still get plenty of downtime, just have interesting things to do with their parents. Massive jigsaws that take all week can be good, too.

I think what I will do is give it this week. If she is still coming home miserable, I'm going to chat to the SENCO ( she has a hearing impairment as well btw - which they are all aware of and she has been visited by a ToD etc- another story) and just ask if they have any provision, if they are aware that she is feeling a little left out etc, and take it from there. At least then I will know I have done something. Meanwhile, I'll carry on encouraging her and doing 'stuff' as we normally do! Thanks for all your input.

rrbrigi Mon 08-Oct-12 11:19:28

Hi,

I think there are lots of things you can do at home. My son is in school and I think he is clever but instead of doing high level math and reading or any other things that school will cover with him; at home we do different things. How about to learn to play on an instrument, learn touch typing, learn another language (that she won't learn in school), etc... You can tell me that you need money for all of these things, but the reality is you do not. Nowadays if you have computer and internet you can learn everything, yes I mean everything. E.g.: we learn languages from youtube. I think this is the way how parents should stretch their clever children, so they won't be bored in school when they learn the same as others. Also you can let her read lots of education books about the world, animals, plants, arts, science etc... You need only a library card for these. Or you can give her books that belong to the subject they are learning in school (e.g.: they learnt that dog has four legs, you can give a book for her about different type of dogs etc.).

SE13Mummy Mon 08-Oct-12 22:10:14

When you've spoken to her teacher have you explained that your DD is keen to find out more about the subject and that you'd like to support her with this in a way that means she hasn't 'gone ahead' and so ends up excluded from the next session, but has explored one aspect in more depth?

Perhaps researching buildings and recreating a model of a London street pre Fire of London would be something she could do - she could then analyse the differences between homes/streets now and then. Or maybe look into from a plague point of view e.g. why it was that people believed the different 'cures' would work - what was it about medicine in those days that led people to think that carrying flowers would help cure the plague? Perhaps consider the ethics of marking the door of afflicted households with a cross... can she find out about other times in history/recent times that isolation/obvious identification of the ill was carried out? If the Fire of London were to happen in 2012 what would be different.... look into the history of the Fire Service, go back to thinking about street layout, could it happen? Why/why not?

Have a look at Glogster (the edu version) and at Weebly - one is a graphic blog, the other a website builder. Both offer free versions and I've used both in my teaching (with Y4+ but my own Y2 DD uses both proficiently). A tool such as one of these would offer your DD an extra challenge but also enable her to expand her work as and when something grabs her or she discovers another tangent she'd like to explore. She could be encouraged to add 'school facts' to it so that there is an additional reason to engage with her learning at school - it may even be the case that she'd be given an opportunity to share it at school (or could send an e-mail link to the Head!).

Just a thought... You say your dd has a hearing impairment. Could it be that she isn't fully hearing/accessing what is going on in the class and is switching off a little bit? Her previous teacher may have been better at making sure she could always hear/contribute in class and was therefore focused and learning? I may be way off...

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