KS1 - past papers - where/best sites?

(39 Posts)
Cortina Sat 01-May-10 09:53:31

Looking for SATS key stage one past question papers?

Just had a quick search but wonder where the best/most up -to-date papers are to be found?

Thanks!!

Batteryhuman Sat 01-May-10 09:57:04

Just out of interest why would you want them? You wouldn't be wanting to ask you child to practise would you? Please say no.

deaddei Sat 01-May-10 10:00:22

Agree with Batteryhuman- WHY???
We are talking 6 year olds.

scrab806ble Sat 01-May-10 10:00:35

Agree with Battery, why on earth are you looking for them? Anyway format changes every year, so last years will not help. If your child is happy and working well in school, they will do fine, and if not...it REALLY doesn't matter, they are only 7!!

Don't do it.

Cortina Sat 01-May-10 10:05:26

Lots of reasons, any sites you can point me towards? Thanks.

scrab806ble Sat 01-May-10 10:08:22

Don't really think are any. If you are desp erate, schools probably hold back copies. Honestly tho' they do change format every year, so this year will be different again.

calm down people, they sell them in waterstones so OP obviously isnt the only parent looking for them.

I am not practicing with dd and I wouldnt but I did have a look online to see what they were like mainly to reassure dd as school have bigged up the "tests" they are having and dd was worried.

Now she has seen them she isnt as worried because she knows its just like things they have done it class.

Brightminds is the one I got them from.

MmeBlueberry Sat 01-May-10 10:19:35

Get them from:
St Joseph's school, Pickering

They are free to download.

rainbowinthesky Sat 01-May-10 10:21:05

WHSmith sell them. Why such horror from some posters??

mrz Sat 01-May-10 10:25:47

There is no advantage over using past question papers to using any of the SAT practise books if you are intent on going down the practise route.
You are unlikely to find recent tests as these are used for the actual test (this year schools can use 2007 or 2009 papers).

Cortina Sat 01-May-10 10:32:57

Thanks again. St Joseph's school site is v comprehensive but couldn't find for KS1 only KS2?

HeavyMetalGlamourRockStar Sat 01-May-10 11:02:22

You can get them for free on the Standards website - they have mapped questions to levels - it's very useful. Have looked for a link but I think the website is having problems at the moment with the seach function.

mrz Sat 01-May-10 11:02:47

By rainbowinthesky Sat 01-May-10 10:21:05
WHSmith sell them. Why such horror from some posters??

WHS don't sell them they sell practise tests but not actual past papers.

As I said cortina you are unlikely to find genuine recent papers for KS1 because they are reused in a cycle so making them available would also make them useless for assessment.

HeavyMetalGlamourRockStar Sat 01-May-10 11:09:50

Discovered this link yesterday, when ds came home all excited about a museum he'd learned about at school and wanted to plan a visit during the summer holidays - so we googled Midhampton Museum - only to discover it didn't exist - it was a Sat Test - he was gutted. sad

Sats papers

RollaCoasta Sat 01-May-10 11:22:35

There seems to be so much repetition on this site about this. (I actually think 'mrz' and 'feenie' are an automated answering service that clicks in whenever there are posts about KS1 tests. No-one in RL could be that patient.)

If you're going to buy them, for whatever reason, please, please, don't go out and buy 2007 or 2009 papers. It is REALLY annoying if a child pipes up 'I've done this one at home', just as you're about to start a test. It won't help their level, because the level they are given will be based on their school work. (Hmmmm... that was a novel idea.... base an assessment on a child's work rather than a test.)

Feenie Sat 01-May-10 11:25:53

Shame it didn't catch on!

You made me laugh, rollacoaster. I don't think my dh would agree with you about my patience! grin

Trafficcone Sat 01-May-10 11:37:54

Oh good grief if anyone wants their 7 yr old to revise
for their SATs. You do realise that they do and mean NOWT don't you?? The results mean something for the school and the teachers but nothing for the children. Even the KS2s don't mean a heck of alot though they are used by secondaries when
they think about putting yr 7s into ability sets.

If you want to see the paper and reassure the child the. Ask their class teacher to show you one. Your child WILL know what they look like. If you're running to Smiths to buy them then I'd say you're wanting to 'cram' the child and that's pretty sad.

mrz Sat 01-May-10 11:39:21

By Feenie Sat 01-May-10 11:25:53
Shame it didn't catch on!
whatever next! teachers marking books?

Feenie Sat 01-May-10 11:41:42

And pointless.

(Here comes the automated message):

The tests are just a very small part of the overall teacher assessment. Many other sources of evidence will be gathered to arrive at a final teacher assessment, and it is this result which will be reported to you at the end of the year (not the test results).

Beeeeeeeeeep.

grin

HeavyMetalGlamourRockStar Sat 01-May-10 15:05:55

To be fair - our school has never indicated that the tests are just part of an assessment and that you shouldn't worry about them. I think most people don't understand that there is a difference between the KS1 Sats and the KS2 Sats.

I know - but only because of MN.

lovingthesun Sat 01-May-10 15:19:12

I don't see why the test results mean 'nowt'.

I've just bought some practise papers & some work books because it's quite apparent by DC is behind. DH & I are trying to help bring her up to speed because we don't want her to get lost. We are also a little concerned in case she is dyslexic.

I'm disappointed by the school too, because, as far as I'm concerned it's the teachers job to teach, not mine. However, have realised (rather late) that this isn't happening, so now we are helping her to practise learning money (she couldn't work out the money to buy something for 50p the other day. And she is also getting her teens wrong e.g. confusing 14 with 40.

lovingthesun Sat 01-May-10 15:20:51

...in answer to your question, look on amazon for practise papers, workbooks, which are quite fun & interesting & revision books.smile

Having seen Cortina's posts in education before I really don't think it is likely that she is planning to go through tests with her DC.

I am sure she has good reasons for wanting to look at previous tests.

mrz Sat 01-May-10 16:32:33

By lovingthesun Sat 01-May-10 15:19:12
I don't see why the test results mean 'nowt'.

The results of KS1 tests would indicate to me the class teacher if a child had a problem in a particular area on the day they took the test nothing more nothing less.

mrz Sat 01-May-10 16:34:27

lovingthesun the books you buy on amazon or in WHS or elsewhere are not past test papers which is what cortina requested in the OP

mrz Sat 01-May-10 16:36:44

NoahAndTheWhale I'm not sure what other use anyone could find for test papers unless it's lining the litter tray or hamster cage.

Could well be that of course

lovingthesun Sat 01-May-10 19:13:38

mrz - good, thanks for that - I think you are missing my point.

Thanks - I can read - I don't know where you buy/beg/steal past papers - I was offering advice on what I have found helpful..is that ok ?

mrz Sat 01-May-10 19:36:00

lovingthesun you are of course free to post whatever you wish I just didn't want anyone to part with their hard earned cash thinking the books you can purchase on Amazon are or in anyway resemble the genuine test papers requested in the OP ...if that is OK with you?

piscesmoon Sat 01-May-10 19:51:20

I can't see why anyone would want to see past papers!

bellissima Sun 02-May-10 09:50:49

Okay I hate tests for 6-7 year olds. Though I can see that the very fact that they exist creates angst and business for WH Smith. But Feenie is right, or at least DD2's Yr 2 teacher has assured me that she has a big say in the overall 'result' and that assessment is an important part. Unless she's lying therefore I think that a child who suddenly out-performed (because had seen the test they use) or under-performed 'on the day' would not be particularly advantaged or disadvantaged.

As for DD1 in Year 6 - well that I understand does depend more on the actual test result. But since the whole class seems to have been practising since Christmas then I'm sure they will do fine...if they do them (are they?). Cynical, moi??

mrz Sun 02-May-10 10:33:34

bellissima this is taken from page 38 of the Assessment and Reporting Arrangements 2010 book published by the government www.qcda.gov.uk/resources/assets/2010_Key_stage_1_ARA.pdf

Reporting teacher assessment results to local authorities
at the end of key stage 1
Schools must report for all children:
■■ a teacher assessment level in reading, writing, and speaking and listening
■■ a separate teacher assessment level for each science attainment target
■■ an overall teacher assessment level in mathematics and science
■■where appropriate, a P scale as set out in the table in section 5.5.

The overall level for science will be generated by the school’s management information
system. Schools are not required to report an overall teacher assessment level for English.

Schools are not required to report task and test results to their local authority or the next*
*school
when a child transfers, either at the end of the key stage or because the child
has moved during the key stage.

However, where the school has recorded task and test results in its management information system it can choose whether to include these results in any data provided to the local authority or next school (see also section 8.4).

Local authorities do not give task and test results to the DCSF.

so as you can see the results stay inside the school and go no further.

robd Mon 03-May-10 10:31:30

Schools should not be "bigging up the test". When I taught KS1 - my class didn't even know we were doing a big test. We did comprehensions as part of on going reading practise - so when they did the y2 comprehension, they didn't realise that it was a SATs paper.

Same for maths - we regularly did maths tests so the paper was not a shock to them and they didn't realise it was a test.

Writing - that was based on my own assessment of their writing.

I never mentioned SATS or drilled them for a test. However I do believe in working on problems unaided sometimes so I can see what they understand.

Same time - I did a lot of evidence collecting, talking one to one with the children and observations so my teacher assessment was as accurate as possible.

robd Mon 03-May-10 10:32:50

Sorry - forgot to add. If you think your child is struggling, then of course you can help her at home with reading.

But school has the resources and expertise to help so go and speak to them. Some schools are not very pro active.

mrz Mon 03-May-10 10:49:58

Sorry robd but the children in my Y2 class are bright enough to work out that when I put a booklet labelled Key Stage 1 Maths/Reading/Spelling test in front of hem that is what they are doing.
I think the fact that the test booklets are in a format that children won't often encounter at other times makes it different.
I agree it shouldn't be a big deal and I would say most schools/Y2 teachers don't make it a big deal but there are other influences at play.

robd Mon 03-May-10 11:09:57

Ok - they realised it was different but it was not something we drilled into them or made up to be important. They've done other tests like Fischer Family Trust and PIPS so they probably thought it was just something else.

Unlike KS2 of course.

Feenie Mon 03-May-10 11:30:24

The word test has only been included on the front of the booklet recently though, I think we worked out, didn't we, mrz?

I agree that the booklets looked 'dfferent' prior to this, but my Y2s just thought they were 'special', and loved completing them. Only one child ever twigged they were tests, and that's because they were told by their mum!

mrz Mon 03-May-10 15:08:59

Yes we did Feenie and seeing the sealed pack of booklets was enough to frighten the life out of one of my class. I haven't got a clue why because I've not mentioned the tests but someone certainly has.

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