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Other children in class marking dd work and been rude

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lexcat · 24/07/2007 11:51

Don't know if I'm just be silly or is this just not on.
every child did a project in class. when it was finshed the others in class choice the ones they liked best and wrote comments on the back. I must add the class is made up of 10 y1 and 21 y2 and dd is the third youngest in the class (y1).
Most of the Y1 made nice comments like 'good' 'tidy writing' 'nice presentation' but some of the Y2 wrote 'sdupid' very badd' 'stuped poo poo' finally which really got to me as she has lovely handwritting better then a lot of the y2s 'tidy your writting messy'
Worst is at parent evening I told teacher dd feels the y2's alwayes are putting her down and it was brush aside and i was told it was all in my dd mind.

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DangerousBeans · 24/07/2007 11:58

I think the teacher needs to speak to the class about constructive criticism.
The comments such as 'stupid' and 'very bad', are dreadful, and I'm surprised the teacher didn't step in.

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Sherbert37 · 24/07/2007 12:05

I am wary of peer marking now as I discovered DS2's spelling jotter at the end of term. A 'friend' had written "2/10 oh dear DS2. No personal points". We now know DS2 has severe dyslexia and it must have upset him to see this from one of his classmates. You should definitely mention this to the teacher as it is also a shame that good work is marked in this way.

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OrmIrian · 24/07/2007 12:09

You're not being silly at all. Nasty negative comments help no-one. I like the idea of the children being encouraged to make comments but those were just unkind and unconstructive.

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CarGirl · 24/07/2007 12:13

I'm not a teacher but I don't think that is on at all, they were supposed to be choosing the one they like best and write comments on the back????????????????? That isn't what those Yr2 children did is it?

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lexcat · 24/07/2007 12:24

Thanks for your support, I now understand why dd doesn't like writting if that the comments she's getting from her older peers.
Hard because she only has 1 day left with these children as they will be moving class in the new term.

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swedishmum · 24/07/2007 13:41

I'd take it to the teacher and tell her that after your previous comments at parents' eve you feel the issue still hasn't been resolved and this has caused upset for your child. This is bullying (albeit by silly little Y2s). I've found it quite common in mixed year classes for there to be such silly behaviour between groups both ways.

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kiskidee · 24/07/2007 13:48

you are not being unreasonable.

the teacher does not sound like she has given clear guidance to the children on what they are supposed to mark eventhough the yr 1's picked up on what was appropriate.

if she had done this, the y2's would have been less likely to make their foul comments and even if they did, the teacher should have reprimanded them on their inappropriate comments.

the lack of boundaries allowed the y2's to use it as a way of putting down (i mean bullying) a younger child.

ps: i'm a teacher, albeit secondary.

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KITTENSOCKS · 24/07/2007 17:59

Do you have the project as evidence? If the class teacher won't do anything about it, perhaps a word with the head teacher might do the trick. Do you know which children wrote the abusive remarks? If they had been written on a classroom wall they would not have been dismissed so readily by the teacher. If school has already broken up, perhaps a blanket warning could be given to all children who mark each others' work next term saying that rude remarks will be punished.

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Desiderata · 24/07/2007 18:03

What a totally shit idea

That kind of approach to marking work is bound to end in tears. I would have words in the right ears, lexcat.

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lexcat · 24/07/2007 21:23

yes I have the project and some children have signed their names. Also found out that the same children also wrote the same sort of things on other childrens work.
Also found out the children thought it all was a big joke to write nasty remarkes.
From what I can gather the teacher has not read the work and is unaware of what some children were writting and it's all been sent home.
That was the talk in the playground this afternoon.

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KITTENSOCKS · 25/07/2007 11:07

Perhaps if enough angry parents protest to the class teacher and head, they will punish those responsible for the remarks and reconsider this form of work appraisal by pupils.

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rapunzelle · 09/08/2007 21:55

Peer response can be a wonderful valuable teaching & learning tool, but children have to be taught how to do it. The skills neeed to be taught, modelled and cnstantly monitored. This should NEVER have been allowed to go unchallenged, this has been very badly managed.

If anyone is interested in how it SHOULD be done, read anything by Shirley Clarke (she has an excellent website)

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constancereader · 09/08/2007 22:06

I agree with rapunzelle, I have used this form of marking without ever having a child write something nasty.

What on earth was the teacher doing to let it go home without checking anyway? They are very slack imo.

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barefeete · 11/08/2007 03:01

IMHO this form of marking works really well in the right context with a lot of support from the teacher regarding the whole context of peer group marking.

These comments are very rude and completey unnecessary within a classroom environment. I would have thought that the teacher would have brought this up already with all children involved in the incident.

Lexcat - you have every right to be upset if this hasn't be properly dealt with. Is your child upset by the remarks? Have you spoken directly with the teacher about it.

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ghosty · 11/08/2007 06:50

"From what I can gather the teacher has not read the work and is unaware of what some children were writting and it's all been sent home."

Lexcat ... you have to go in and tell the teacher this is not on. Honestly you do. This is poor poor practice and I am appalled.

I often used peer marking when I was teaching but always under strict supervision and with a clear purpose and always always checked by me afterwards.

If this had happened in any of the schools I was teaching at I would have had at least 1/4 of the parents in carrying pitchforks.

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