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Is my daughter's teacher a bully?

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Heathen4Hire · 30/11/2016 11:51

Please give me some perspective as I only have one child and that sometimes makes me a bit insecure about making a fuss. I did wonder if I should have posted this in AIBU? but I thought to try here first.

Since my DD began year 5, she has been having problems with how her teacher manages his class, discipline wise. She has had strict but fair teachers up to this point, and has thrived at the school. The school is in the inner city, and is a good school.

She tells me he shouts, a lot. He insults the children. My daughter had to take some time off school for having headaches, partly due to the stress of being in his class, and on her return, he nastily said, "You will turn thick if you don't attend school regularly."

He forces the children to do their homework and then doesn't mark it. But if they don't do it, he yells at them. He will have them sit for up to half an hour with their arms folded in silence, then berate them when they haven't got all the work done for the day. He will skip breaks and even PE to make a small point.

DD now alleges that he will be mid-rant when the headteacher pops into the classroom, and he will instantly stop and put on a reasonable voice, alluding to the point that he is this Jekyll and Hyde character. He has spoken to me on the phone about my daughter's absences reasonably, making out to me he is a good guy. At that time, I was still in two minds as to make a complaint.

My DD says that he is in the wrong job because he has no patience with children. She is ten, and she says this. I know her classmates fairly well, and they are good kids. I do not understand how a teacher thinks this regime of fear is good for his students.

He, amazingly, is head of KS2 so if I do put these allegations to him, the only higher people to complain to are the Head and the Board of Governors.

It's getting to the point now that my daughter doesn't want to get out of bed in the morning to face him. She is frightened of him. Her behaviour at home has also changed. She is more rude, more aggressive in how she talks to us, and she is scared of failing at anything, even doing her hair, or tying up her shoelaces.

Does my daughter's teacher sound like a bully? How would you broach the subject with him? How can I ensure my issues with him do not have repercussions for my daughter and her classmates? Confronting him scares me too, as I am a shy person, so how to pluck up the courage?

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Cucumber5 · 30/11/2016 11:59

It's hard to tell. Its an inner city school and Although you might think the kids are ok, they could actually be quite a handful in class. Maybe the kids are pushing boundaries, while he's clearly setting boundaries. Maybe the last teacher was a walkover and accepted chatting or misbehaviour. It's perfectly acceptable to insist on silence, then wait through break if necessary for that silence.

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Imaweeble · 30/11/2016 12:00

Last year my sons teacher was similar. If seen him previously making kids cry but didn't think anything about it. My son is quite bright especially in maths. This teacher totally changed my son into a (I hate saying this about my own child) horrible, nasty child who constantly answered back. My advice would be to go to the head or deputy head to get it dealt with asap. I ignored my own son and fee terrible now as he had gone back to the loveable cheeky chaps he was before he had this teacher. Sorry it's not much help but I just really wanted to let you know that there are teachers out there who seem to like to upset kids. X

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Cucumber5 · 30/11/2016 12:00

The turning thick comment could have been a bad joke but your DD too sensitive to take it that way.

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Cucumber5 · 30/11/2016 12:03

In your shoes however I would approach the school and say your DD is unhappy in the class due to the shouting. It's effecting her a lot as she's unhappy st home as a result. What can you do about it

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Heathen4Hire · 30/11/2016 12:04

Thank you for your replies. I am going to have to summon the courage to speak to the deputy head.

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00100001 · 30/11/2016 12:09

"He will have them sit for up to half an hour with their arms folded in silence"

How do you know this? Confused


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He forces the children to do their homework and then doesn't mark it."

How does he force them? Confused

"He will skip breaks and even PE to make a small point"
For the whole class?

How do you know all of this? Confused

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user789653241 · 30/11/2016 13:47

Have you spoken to other parents? Do other children complain as well?
My ds was really afraid of one TA in yr1 because she shouts a lot. . She was holding an after school club. Turned out he only got shouted at so much because he was constantly chatting and distracting others.

He maybe a bully, maybe not. Teachers are only human, so very possible he is mean. But I would not just go in and complain until I find out more about it.

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TheRollingCrone · 30/11/2016 15:34

My dd has a shouty teacher this year. She hates it. I have the utmost respect for the difficult job teachers do every day, and every one loses it from time to time.
But FFS if shouting is your default behaviour management tool - you're burnt out, get out of the profession.

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juicypineapple · 30/11/2016 15:46

DD once had a similar situation and I must admit I shrugged it off until one day I was unexpectedly in school and overheard the teacher absolutely screaming and calling the kids stupid and thick.

I would be tempted to go and see the deputy head and say dd doesn't want to come to school and ask if she is ok while at school and go from there.

We had a teacher like this in what is now year six when I was a child who was a full on bully and the kids who were on target for good grades all failed bar her favourites.

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Heathen4Hire · 04/12/2016 21:49

An update.

A group of children from the class led by their class rep went to the deputy head after school and listed all their problems with their teacher.

The deputy head teaches them once a week anyway, and DD looks forward to this because the day is calm, and there is no shouting.

The next day the deputy head found cover for the class whilst the teacher was asked to see this deputy head. On the teacher's return, there was no more shouting or silly discipline in the class.

001 I know what went on because my DD told me, and she is an honest person. Why would I not believe her? She is my child and if I do not support her, who else will back her up? I cannot understand your doubts?

I know some of the children too, they are a good bunch of kids, always pleasant and polite. They didn't deserve this stress.

I also know the kids parents who have also had concerns for their child's welfare. I know that some of them were about to complain about this teacher until the children took it upon themselves to stand up to him.

Inner-city doesn't mean "tough" or "troubled". It is a good school with otherwise excellent teaching. I am sad these attitudes prevail. Don't assume.

I am incredibly proud of the children and all the parents are united in their stand. They did the right thing.

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user789653241 · 04/12/2016 22:05

That is a great result. Sounds like you have great DH who have great relationship with children. Well done to all the brave children!!!

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