Teachers and thumb sucking - is this usual?

(61 Posts)
Psipsina Fri 01-May-15 09:53:13

Ds may have got this completely wrong, but he came home yesterday saying that his TA and teacher kept putting white tape around a child's thumb to try and stop him sucking it.

From what he says it was surgical tape, but it was replaced various times during the day. The child didn't seem upset to Ds, which is good.

I suspect it was a strategy suggested by the parents but Ds insisted it wasn't, and it was their own idea, and they wrote in the child's contact book about it.

Just curious to know if this would be considered usual as it seems a bit odd to me, say Ds was correct. I don't intend to do anything about it as I think it's between the other parents and the teachers involved.

soapboxqueen Fri 01-May-15 11:30:27

It's not something that I would do and I don't know why the school staff would be bothered by a cold sticking their thumb. It's more likely an idea from home.

Your child may be entirely accurate but more often than not, children get the wrong end of the stick. The school cannot discuss other children with you. You could speak to the teacher saying you were concerned about what your child said or the head or the parents of the other child.

However in the grand scheme of things I don't think it's doing any great damage unless the child were distressed or the parents were not informed.

soapboxqueen Fri 01-May-15 11:30:58

*child sucking

newbieman1978 Fri 01-May-15 13:39:45

I'd be very very surprised if a teacher/school took it on themselves to do something like this. I'd even be pretty surprised that the teacher/school would participate in this type of thing even with the consent and direction of the parents.

Saying that you hear of some strange goings on!

Worth finding out the facts though as it will give you an indication of what the people educating/caring for your child think is acceptable.

Psipsina Fri 01-May-15 16:39:29

Thank you both. Well this is it - I kind of wonder what the whole approach is like, when you get an incident like this one.

All I could gather from today is that they were speaking to his mum after school yesterday, keeping him in the classroom while they spoke to her, and then today the teachers were doing the same thing again.

Still no idea if it was their idea or her idea but I guess she probably agreed to it in any case smile

If they do try anything like this with Ds, I will be having words.

TheTroubleWithAngels Fri 01-May-15 16:41:45

It might be that the thumb has got infected or nasty from sucking it.

I'd be very, very surprised if it was the school's idea otherwise.

bigTillyMint Fri 01-May-15 16:42:17

Never heard of this before - my guess would be that the parent had asked them to help her.

We tried the tape with DD. It didn't work and she still sucks her thumb aged 15hmm

Psipsina Fri 01-May-15 16:47:02

Good points. I sometimes get the feeling that the school thinks it knows better than the parents, for some reason, which puts me slightly on edge about stuff like this.

We haven't been there long though so I shall try not to jump to any conclusions.

GhoulWithADragonTattoo Fri 01-May-15 17:09:44

Marvela Stop nail varnish is excellent for stopping thumb sucking. Recommend it to the parent if you know them. I did ask school to remind my DD to stop thumb sucking. I'm sure this will be at the parents suggestion or in response to a plea for help.

bobajob Fri 01-May-15 17:14:14

A child who is sucking their thumb constantly often has poor speech and isn't participating in class, so teachers will often discourage it.

Personally I wouldn't put tape on a thumb (at least not without parents' agreeing) but I would give the child something else to occupy their hands.

Littlefish Fri 01-May-15 18:47:47

I agree with bobajob. I've taught children who completely switch off as soon as they start sucking their thumb or fingers.

I also agree that it may be that the child's thumb is sore or infected.

mrz Sat 02-May-15 08:21:18

I think TheTroubleWithAngels is probably on the right lines and parents have asked the school to keep it covered.

BeeInYourBonnet Sat 02-May-15 08:25:03

Our school and us worked together to try to get DD to stop sucking her thumb ( she did it constantly!).

catkind Sat 02-May-15 21:59:33

Gosh I wish school would help us stop DS thumbsucking. Hadn't occurred to me to ask. Would most teachers be prepared to help, or would I get odd looks for asking? Every time we see him in assembly or sports day it's plugged insad

cariadlet Sun 03-May-15 08:53:02

As the teacher spoke to the parent after school, and as a note was written in the child's contact book, I'm pretty sure that the parents are trying to stop the child from sucking its thumb and are asking the teachers to support them by using the strategy that they are trying at home.

I've been asked the same thing a few times (although I've never been asked to put tape on a thumb!) - often after the child's dentist has spoken to the parents about the thumb sucking and the effect it is having.

Pipbin Sun 03-May-15 09:01:36

This is a big lot of none of your business.

You don't know any facts about this other that what your child has told you, and he may well have got the wrong end of the stick.
You know that the school has spoken to the child's mum (presumably by hanging around and sticky beaking) and that it continued. This makes me think that the parents are on board, in fact it my be at their request.

And I know I won't win any friends by saying this but sometimes, just sometimes, schools do know better than parents. Carrying a baby to term doesn't make you a parenting expert.

Seriouslyffs Sun 03-May-15 09:14:33

grin
Pipbin is right!

Pipbin Sun 03-May-15 17:39:35

Thank you Seriously.

JoyceDivision Sun 03-May-15 17:45:18

Pipbin, completely agree grin

I have used tape on DDs fingers for months but as soon as it is off they go in on auto pilot.

Ihave put the stop n grow on, soaked her fingers in vinegar, fish sauce / nam pla?, mustard, all dd happily soaking her fingers.. and she just perseveres through the taste to suck her fingers.

I am sat watching her and she is doing it now. No matter what she occupies her hands with, it gets raised back to her mouth!

Nowfeeltheneedtopost Sun 03-May-15 18:23:43

You don't say what age your DS is but I'd be extremely surprised if your DS was in any position to "insist" it wasn't a strategy suggested by the parents! Seriously, please say how old he is and why you are confident that he was able to determine that this issue had not been discussed between the parents and the school previously? I just don't see this is any if your business at all.
You do sound very negative about the school. Is it perhaps not one that you wanted your DS to attend?

Fairenuff Sun 03-May-15 18:54:56

I suspect it was a strategy suggested by the parents but Ds insisted it wasn't, and it was their own idea

How old is your ds and how does he know that it was school's idea. Did he actually read what they wrote in the contact book?

Pipbin Sun 03-May-15 19:21:02

Could it be that the teacher said something like 'I tell you what Jonny, if you keep sucking that thumb then I'll have to put tape round it', but having previously cooked up the idea with the parents?

I shall try not to jump to any conclusions.
Except for all the ones you've jumped to already.

FeckoffandDie Mon 04-May-15 14:45:34

Hi there, OP here.

I had missed the way this thread had continued as it was way down my list of TIO.

This is a big lot of none of your business.

Of that I am aware. Did you not see this part of my OP?

Just curious to know if this would be considered usual as it seems a bit odd to me, say Ds was correct. I don't intend to do anything about it as I think it's between the other parents and the teachers involved.

You don't know any facts about this other that what your child has told you, and he may well have got the wrong end of the stick.

Yup, I said I suspected he was mistaken.

You know that the school has spoken to the child's mum (presumably by hanging around and sticky beaking) and that it continued.

No, I only know what Ds has told me, he is normally collected by someone else so I don't 'sticky beak' thank you very much. I was interested to know if it was normal practise. That's all.

This makes me think that the parents are on board, in fact it my be at their request. YES! That was EXACTLY what I assumed! How funny!

Honestly did you just decide to interpret everything I said in the worst possible way, or what? I had a lot of sensible, straightforward replies initially and was quite happy with what I was told, which confirmed what I had thought myself (ds is often mistaken - I know this much).

Why the need for adversarial comment and tone?

Fairenuff Mon 04-May-15 15:10:43

OP how old is your ds?

Pipbin Mon 04-May-15 15:20:00

Well Feckoff (lovely tone of name there).
Your tone was rather adversarial too, If they do try anything like this with Ds, I will be having words.
In fact your whole post was really saying 'I don't like this school and now look at what they have done to this child'.

So if you agree that it was none of your business and that it was possible your son had got it wrong, why bother to post?

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