Dd in Y3, is there a guide to sub levels?

[JiltedJohnsJulie]

It's Parents Evening tomorrow. Dd has an NQT. She also had an NQT last year, she was fantastic. This one, not so much.

So before I go and see her to tomorrow, is there a rough guide to how many sub levels she should progress in a year? I'm asking as I dont believe she's made much progress at all.

[Theknacktoflying]

Sub levels?? Would these be SAT level equivalents?

[JiltedJohnsJulie]

Oh gosh, I don't know. At our school they seem to use things like 3c as a guide. Is that more helpful?

[sillysausagewithsauce]

Levels are not being used anymore ( well, last year for ys 2&6) so unless your school is quite behind I would not expect sub levels to be mentioned in y3.
The school should give you an indication of how well your child is performing against the stage three curriculum objectives and you should be provided with the areas your child should be focusing on in order to develop further (target area).
Apparently this is easier for parents to understand.

[ScarlettDarling]

2b is average at end of y2, 2a slightly above average, level 3 is above average. What level was your dd working at at the end of y2? You would have expected her to have moved between 1-2 sub levels by the end of Y3. Bear in mind that your school may not be using levels in y3 now, they are only compulsory in y2 and y6 this year.

[StandoutMop]

I just had a y3 parents' evening and was told daughter's progress was fine but she would no longer be exceeding expectations as curriculum has changed so progress will appear to have halted / reversed possibly in some areas

Of course this might not be true, but if it is then your dd might not make any / many levels progress.

Not sure how you can judge progress though if this is the case and you don't trust teacher's assessment of the situation. Not very helpful, sorry.

[Smartiepants79]

Mmm using th old system I believe it's hoped children will make 2 sub levels progress over a year.
But pp is correct. Levels are on the way out.

[Theknacktoflying]

Sounds like SAT levels. I think they are being phased out and the new system (yet to be given) used.

The Yr3 curriculum has also been changed so 'old' SATs no longer appropriate.

It really is pretty sh*tty

[rollonthesummer]

Levels have gone. Ask how your child is doing compared to national expectation.

[JiltedJohnsJulie]

Sorry everyone, didn't mean to post and run but my iPad had been hammered by a poorly DS and died.

Anyway, thanks all for your information and advice. If the teacher does give indications of her performance in terms of says I shall ask if she has progressed any sub levels.

If not I shall ask what her performance is like compared to national average and what her target areas are.

One thing that doesn't inspire much confidence is that she started of the last meeting complaining about refereeing the girls in y3 at break time. Bas she was talking, it struck me that the behaviour mentioned was very unlike my dd. So I asked her if my dd was involved, no, right so is she affected in anyway by it? Again no. Right, ok, shall we move on then...bet she really hates me

[mrz]

Under the old system children were expected to make 2 whole levels progress (6 sub levels) from entering Y3 to leaving Y6 (4 years) - so expected would average out to one and a half sub levels over a year ... In reality children don't progress in nice linear measures so could make more one year and less in another.
For the record National Curriculum levels aren't SATs.

As people have said levels were scrapped in most year groups (including Y3) from September 2014 so schools shouldn't be using them as they don't match the new curriculum. The teacher should inform you how your child is progressing against the Y3 expectations.