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hate my ds's school

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oadcb Sun 19-Jan-14 17:57:11

And I'm know there is no way I will send DD there but realistically its what we will get allocated. Unless we move DS.

And that's the problem. He's in year 1. Not doing great but teachers not doing anything except work on his behaviour. He however likes school,although never talks about it, and doesn't want to move.

However I hate the school. The headmaster is useless. The school receptionist is obstructive. They never give notice of events. Communication is shocking. Theyve breached data protection weekly for last 9mths and despite me telling them still do it. They've taken children on school trips and not had proper consent..... Head told of these issues in sept and now governors aware but still not sorted.

I won't put another child there and have been checking out options.
Any admissions experts able to advise please? Think I've found a school where siblings are 2nd criteria. Need to check I'm not readinb it wrong.

oadcb Sun 19-Jan-14 18:00:40

Ps the behaviour is conforming issues like noises etc. He's possibly on the Autistic spectrum but again they are reluctant to intervene even though both reception and yr1 teachers have noticed it.

tiggytape Sun 19-Jan-14 18:55:33

There are lots of schools where siblings are lower on the list than people who live nearby or church goers or children living in a specified catchment area so, if that's what the criteria says, there's no reason to suspect you've misunderstood it.

However, you have to be realistic with all applications. Definitely list the schools you like and rate highly. But you will need to list at least 1 that you stand some hope of getting into (based on previous year's final distances which are normally online or in the booklet). It may be your son's school is the only one that you live close enough to qualify for but it may be that there are others nearby (especially if they have a lower sibling policy) that would be a good option.

I'd also look at ways of working with (or bypassing) the school if you feel your DS is not being supported. A good place to ask is the Special Needs section on MN as lots of people there are experts. I do know for example you are not reliant on the school requesting assessments - a parent has the right to go against the school and do it without them but it is better if you can get advice on what to ask for and what to present.

oadcb Sun 19-Jan-14 19:45:19

Thanks tiggytape. I'm not sure if I've made myself clear. School admissions for this school is looked after children, siblings, practising Christian's, other children of area then all over children.

County admissions is Looked after children, Designated area, children with professionally recommendation, Siblings, practising Christian ( voluntary schools only) then all other children.

Worried the school will change their specific criteria before my daughter application. 3 September's time.

lljkk Sun 19-Jan-14 19:46:21

Wow, that's a long list.
Can you explain how they breach data protection every week?

oadcb Sun 19-Jan-14 19:47:28

I'm also going to check out the other most local school. Ruled out before as no wraparound care. Also follows countys admission code and new estate next to ours makes place by distance less likely.

oadcb Sun 19-Jan-14 19:49:56

Don't want to out myself but let's say its something that's sent every week and I now know details of other parents work places as well as having the ability to contact each of them!

spanieleyes Sun 19-Jan-14 19:50:08

I'm not clear what you are asking. Is the sibling priority at the school you would like your daughter to go to? Surely that would only be relevant if you already had one child there?

tiggytape Sun 19-Jan-14 19:51:23

There is always the possibility the admissions order might change.
All schools must place Looked after children first. It is up to them how they do the rest and they can change relatively quickly sometimes.

County admissions at the moment gives you priority for your designated area school over siblings which (depending how big the area is and how many children live in it) is a good start. Siblings can swallow up more than 50% of places in many schools so if they are all below you and you like your designated area school, you have a chance there.

The church school may be an option for you as well if you go to church and meet the criteria they want (it will normally tell you how often you have to go and it might not be too late for you to start if you are keen to get a place). However they have siblings higher up which means that if there are only 30 places for example, a large number of them might go to siblings and therefore not all the church goers will get a place. You should be able to see online how many siblings got places in previous years to judge how you're likely to get on.

oadcb Sun 19-Jan-14 19:51:32

Ps that "list" isn't long there's much more. I'm now just cutting our losses but know Dd can never go there so maximising chances in next school

oadcb Sun 19-Jan-14 19:54:21

Sorry tiggytape. We aren't in designated area! We are outside. Hence my concern.
Spaniel looking to move one child via in year transfer or waiting list then DD will hopefully follow

lljkk Sun 19-Jan-14 19:56:18

Do you mean that they send group emails that show all email addresses of parents? It's ordinary at some schools, or so some MNers would have us believe.

It's not that I want to say you're mistaken, but how can you know so much about children taken on trips without proper consent? Do you handle the schools' paperwork or have parents complained loudly? At some schools parents sign a form at start of the year for all trips, but I guess yours isn't one of those?

oadcb Sun 19-Jan-14 20:08:37

Its a breach of data protection. I've provided it for the schools purpose of sending me electronic communication. Not let every parent have it.

My son has gone on a trip without consent.
They send a permission to transport on contracted transport at beginning of year. That's not the same as seeking consent for an actual trip.
They tried to say that the form covered it. It doesn't As far as I'm concerned. I want they to seek consent for trip, You can't rely on their communication of trip happening to reach you (Always on a slip on paper)

Plus if they want to alter what they have done in previous years by doing a generic permission slip then they should actually inform or consult parents!

oadcb Sun 19-Jan-14 20:13:11

Crumbs look at the typos. Tiggytape I'm going to look at church. We have so time til DD goes. If sibling connection removed we will hopefully have preference there.

Now to have a good look and apply. Before Christmas no spaces yet one in a very sought after school (usual as places like hens teeth) so there's hope one may come up in this school.

I never thought I'd play this admissions game. I brushed off comments about our school.... Big mistake!

catkins1979 Sun 19-Jan-14 23:24:48

I fully sympathise with you. My son is in Reception (he went to the pre school there too which was wonderful) and we have had such awful experiences with the teachers since this school term. They were useless when he didn't want to leave me and refused to help get him into the class room despite him clinging to my leg and me holding his sister who typically would have been quite happy to stay at school! Oh and the teachers done even talk to the parents if they can help it. And don't get me started with them not even noticing that he was predominately left handed. I'm seeing how it goes until the end of reception and if Im not happy I will pull him out.

souperb Mon 20-Jan-14 09:42:44

How many years gap between your DC? We had a big enough gap that only one child would be in infants at a time. Our Plan B was to get either DS transferred to another school (waiting list/in year admission), then have a sibling link for DD. Or to get DD into a different school and hopefully have DS move to top of waiting list as sibling link and possibly appeal as no infant class size by then. Our Plan A was to try to move to a completely different part of the country, which worked out (but would be hard for many people).

oadcb Mon 20-Jan-14 16:55:49

Well went to see other closest school. Impressed! Plus it has vacancy.

The other school interested in hasn't bothered returning call - in fact receptionist sighed when I asked to look around.

oadcb Mon 20-Jan-14 16:59:00

He will be in year 4 when she moves.

New school would be infant and juniors. Most in area are. If existing school merged I'd be more confident as juniors is good...but 18mths til DS goes there and he will be failed by infants til then

oadcb Mon 20-Jan-14 21:29:10

application done! Now to deal with move. Any tips

Onesiegoddess Tue 21-Jan-14 20:15:17

Do report how it goes

oadcb Tue 21-Jan-14 21:02:21

Will do

manyshadesofblack Thu 23-Jan-14 14:11:38

good luck with the move. I had similar experience with first school I put my ds in. My ds has ASD diagnosis. He said that he did not want to move school but once he saw the new school he was happy to move. He has been there 4 months now and very happy. I had lots of communication with his teacher and senco for first few months to make sure he settled in.

good luck.

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