The joy of Christmas (plays)

(63 Posts)
ParkerTheThief Thu 14-Nov-13 17:57:33

Ahhh, that happy moment. Casting the Christmas play.

I have obviously allowed the rush of power go to my head grin

So far I have been accused of

Choosing a play that a pupil didn't want to do on purpose aren't I lucky to be able to read minds.

Allowing a pupil to audition for a part but not giving it to her (epic fail on the understanding of audition)

Saying that if a pupil refused to sing a solo during the audition process that it was fine, but obviously as the part required him to sing a solo he wouldn't be able to do it and would need to take on a different role.

As I'm typing I've just realised the son of a member of the Gov Body has been given a good part! The ultimate teacher sin

Good job I love doing the whole Christmas thing

SatinSandals Sat 23-Nov-13 17:58:43

I thought it was, but there is no doubt that some parents think there are outside reasons and not just the ability of the child!
Managing disappointment is a very useful skill to have and the resilient child will go far in life!

itsnothingoriginal Sat 23-Nov-13 17:55:31

SatinSandals - my point about DH being a governor was tongue in cheek grin I have absolutely no pretensions about this being the reason for DS not getting his part.

My point was really about managing the disappointment - especially when it's such a big deal for some kids to put themselves through an audition.

insanityscratching I think it's great your DD has a major part -DS has SEN too and I think the school didn't want to take the risk..

AbbyR1973 Sat 23-Nov-13 17:34:26

At DS's school, the asked them what they wanted to be and have first preference to year 2's for whom it will be their last nativity. I suppose it's easier because there is only 15 per year group. I think they found not all DC's wanted starring roles. According to DS all the boys wanted to be soldiers!
DS1 is delighted because he is going to be King Herod! He seems to be attacking the role with sinister enthusiasm!

insanityscratching Sat 23-Nov-13 17:33:23

Dd is Mary with a solo. I think her teachers must have nerves of steel seeing as Joseph (like dd) has a statement of SEN and I wouldn't have thought they were the easiest of options to cast. Dd will need handling with kid gloves for a start hmm.

mrz Sat 23-Nov-13 17:31:15

Our EYFS leader has decided they are not performing a nativity or songs this year and parents are up in arms about it

SatinSandals Sat 23-Nov-13 17:28:38

I'm not sure why schools bother putting on plays these days, it causes so much angst with people sure that they get parts if the parent is on the PTA or don't get one if they are a governor. ( A novel suggestion but maybe they just audition and take the best for the part!)
I am convinced that parents would be happier if every child had a costume, stood in a line and all had an equal lines of dialogue!

itsnothingoriginal Sat 23-Nov-13 17:14:11

It was a rough week for DS last week as he auditioned for a part he really wanted despite being really scared (hes very shy). He was was told afterwards by his class teacher he sang beautifully she was hopeful of the part for him...and then he didn't get a singing or speaking part at all sad

A rude awakening for him I think..

Maybe it's because DH is a governor (had no idea giving leading parts to governors kids was a sin!)

Acinonyx Sat 23-Nov-13 13:21:43

This year - every child has at least 2 lines. Seems reasonable.

I have heard grumbles about some pupils always getting the main parts. I wonder how they even know this - I couldn't remember who any of the main parts were from previous years if my life depended on it. Happily dd doesn't care and neither do I.

The costume saga OTOH hmm OMG................hmm

Galena Sat 23-Nov-13 10:19:33

Depends on whether the speaking part was actually 'promised' or whether they were invited to audition and the best children for the role were chosen.

Teachers cannot get it right - either choose children with loud, clear voices so everyone can hear, and be accused of favouritism, or choose children whose self esteem needs boosting and have everyone (except the child's parents) complain that they couldn't hear a word.

But spare a thought for parent and child who are privately and certainly-never-going-to-share-with-the-teacher very disappointed because the promised speaking part never materialised. Because she now knows she's 'not good enough'. Self esteem can be very fragile.

MiaowTheCat Mon 18-Nov-13 12:27:45

Once worked at a private school where the parents ruled the roost to ridiculous levels. One woman refused for an entire remaining academic year to speak to any staff in the school as her son had been in the second row of angels and not right at the front (child was one of the tallest in the class).

All costumes had to be made by the staff - and we weren't allowed to go to the factory outlet to buy the fabric for it - it HAD to come from John Lewis (and I was the only staff member who could work a sewing machine... so muggins did them all). Couldn't even re-use costumes from previous years with alterations - so all the fucking shepherds had to be re-made from scratch.

I got wrong another year for suggesting we picked the play based on which songs you were LEAST likely to catch yourself singing on the way around Tescos!

Oh and the year I had to ban one over enthusiastic shepherd from bringing his dad's cattle prod in to use for his costume... although that would have proved handy to wrangle the bunch of shepherds who were not the most "with it" members of the class!

melmo26 Sun 17-Nov-13 20:17:38

One year dd1 & 2 were in nursery play together, dd2 was an angel( which dd1 was the previous year) and dd1 was a camel. She hated being a camel. ( no matter how much dh and I said how cool camels are) She stood behind two other kids the whole time not joining in on any of the songs. Dd2 got about 1 minute into the play, burst out crying and refused to go back on stage smile

There is no way we would have went to her teacher and said dd1 will not be a camel. It's the part she was given,end of.

We recently moved so will see how dds do this year. I didn't even know that some schools made parents make a costume. All we've needed the past 2 years is a white t-shirt and tights. I can't sew sad

Periwinkle007 Sun 17-Nov-13 19:20:32

Mrz - you could do a name change and post them all there....

beanandspud Sun 17-Nov-13 16:12:40

grin mrz

SatinSandals Sun 17-Nov-13 13:42:48

I feel sorry for all the children who are like me and want to be in the chorus, hidden at the back and yet have to contend with parents who want them centre stage!

NewNameforNewTerm Sun 17-Nov-13 13:31:09

grin mrz. If we cast according to surname I can think of a few to make us giggle, but daren't post for fear of outing myself.

mrz Sun 17-Nov-13 13:21:23

Not so beanandspud one year we had a child who desperately wanted to be a sheep so was duly cast and dad came in to complain because their surname was Lamb

NewNameforNewTerm Sun 17-Nov-13 12:12:04

I keep having to remind myself why we do it! All that teacher time, money, stress ... (Baa Humbug!)

SAFDD - sorry missed it was D S, maybe medals then?

AuditAngel Sun 17-Nov-13 12:08:20

When doing the nativity in reception, DS asked to be a shepherd. When asked about it, he said, "mummy, it's the only costume we have at home already. That's why I asked. And I asked quickly, to make sure I got to be a shepherd"

Noramum, I think we did the same play last year, DD1 was Polish. We got a request for white shirts (could be uniform ones) and a coloured knee length skirt, white apron plus hair ribbons. DD didn't have a suitable skirt so I asked MIL to cut down an old one of mine to make it, plus make an apron. She asked for more information, then told me to call SIL to ask to borrow the Italian regional peasant costume she had given DN a couple of years before. It was almost perfect. Little white puffed sleeves, red skirt with rick rack, black bodice and attached pinny.

Other than that DS needed dark leggings and a green top to be a Christmas tree, white tshirt and white tights to be an angel (if DS was younger than his sister it would have been fine, I had to buy tights and leggings, but DD grew into them) DD was a star, hopefully DD2 will suggest she is a star to reuse that!

ParkerTheThief Sun 17-Nov-13 12:04:01

NewName, I do that to.

I have been accused of forcing a pupil to write something she didn't want to!
I asked them to choose up to three roles they were interested in. Apparently the one she wrote down, and got was one she didn't want and I forced her to write it

StayAwayFromDeliriumDive Sun 17-Nov-13 12:00:56

NewName - you are assuming I have the skills to adapt it!! I may know some one who does though.

I love the collar and tiara idea - not sure DS will agree though!

NewNameforNewTerm Sun 17-Nov-13 11:50:08
NewNameforNewTerm Sun 17-Nov-13 11:48:47

Costume idea for SAFDD
Onsie adapted like this this
Add pearl necklace collar and a tiara?

StayAwayFromDeliriumDive Sun 17-Nov-13 11:42:19

DS2 is a dog, not just any dog - he is a corgi. Not just any Corgi - he is the queens corgi!

According to DS a dog costume will not do - it absolutely must be Corgi-like!

Just marvellous!

NewNameforNewTerm Sun 17-Nov-13 11:30:54

We actually ask the children what sort of part they want; no lines, a few lines, lots of lines, dancing? Within reason we give each child what they want (with a little tweaking knowing child X who asked for lots of acting and lines, is really anxious about everything, stage shy and struggles with short and long term memory, as we know it would be putting too much pressure on her, so only a few lines we can easily prompt on or replace if she refuses to go on stage).

It is the parents who have ideas what they want their child to do. When a parent complains I pull out their child's request slip where they've ticked what sort of parts they are interested in and share that with the parent. Some have the grace to accept we have given a role based on what their child wants and what we feel is best for them. Others still argue and go to the head demanding more ...

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