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Obtaining 2013 level 6 sats test paper

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Chapter · 27/10/2013 10:41

My daughter is currently in Year 5 and a level 4a reading and 4b for English and maths. I want to take a look at the level 6 sats papers but I don't know how to access them. Can anyone advise of a link.

I don't have much information about the new curriculum either. Can anyone here provide information or point me to links.

Any advice on resources so my daughter can meet her full potential i.e., CGP books, etc.

Many thanks

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17leftfeet · 27/10/2013 10:44

You can get sample papers from exam ninja but its a hell of a set up, particularly for English

Lonecatwithkitten · 27/10/2013 10:55

Whilst the 2013 paper is not there Woodlands Junior school has all the others on it's website. It is probably holding back the 2013 to be able to have a practice paper no one has had before.

Picturesinthefirelight · 27/10/2013 10:57

I've been looking for the 2013 papers out if curiosity (dd didn't do days & I'm curious as to how she would have done).

But I can't find them anywheres.

spanieleyes · 27/10/2013 11:27

Why would you need the level 6 papers?

she's not even a level 5 yet
the papers only show the narrow areas being tested on in the L6 tests. It doesn't cover all of the level 6 curriculum. So all you could do with that particular paper is teach to the test, which wouldn't help if she sat a different level 6 test!

If you want to support her, look at the whole curriculum not a test snapshot. Have a look at the new maths curriculum since that is what she will be tested on at the end of year 6 www.gov.uk/government/collections/national-curriculum

Clutterbugsmum · 27/10/2013 11:41

I have been doing a Preparation for Sats course with dd1 (also yr 5) jusr recently. And we have been given this site which has prior year SATS and answers.

spanieleyes · 27/10/2013 11:54

Good Lord, what on earth is a "Preparation for SATs course" and why is any school running one ( especially for year 5's!!)

mrz · 27/10/2013 12:02

Clutterbugsmum · 27/10/2013 13:40

Why the biscuit MRZ.

I'm the one sitting do the course with my child. I'm doing it to help her and also to see what they are like. And to be fair I have been shocked at the level of understanding needed by children to do them.

As far as I'm concerned anything I can do to help dd to a) reach her levels and B) so she is not concerned about doing them.

mrz · 27/10/2013 13:47

biscuit is no comment for a reason Clutterbugsmum

lisad123everybodydancenow · 27/10/2013 14:03

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mrz · 27/10/2013 14:08

The papers can only cover a percentage of things taught so as spanieleyes says they aren't a good indication of what a child needs to be taught to reach level 6

mrz · 27/10/2013 14:09

the only practical reason to look at old papers is to familiarise children with the format of the tests.

morethanpotatoprints · 27/10/2013 14:19

You can stop her being concerned about them by not making a big deal about it and telling her the truth they mean nothing except how well the school are teaching. They have absolutely no bearing on secondary school or anything else.
As for reaching "her" levels, she will get "the" level suitable to the answers she provides on the day.
Poor child, my dc weren't even told they were doing them and certainly no prep.

spanieleyes · 27/10/2013 14:54

My Year 5/6 class certainly didn't do "Preparation for Sats" courses and we managed 25% level 6 in maths this year ( when the Local Authority Average is 6% )

mrz · 27/10/2013 15:21

What are "Preparation for SATs courses" ? serious question

noblegiraffe · 27/10/2013 15:29

The most recent papers won't be put online (by reputable sites anyway) in case schools want to use them for mocks. That goes for all other exams so I assume it is the same for SATs.

Previous years papers are here:
emaths.co.uk/index.php/4-students/past-papers/key-stage-2-level-6-sat-papers

Clutterbugsmum · 27/10/2013 20:48

MRZ

It's been a 6 week course where we have gone through a different paper each week. Looking at the format of the test paper,phrasing of questions, how questions need to be answered.

I have to say as a parent I was/am shocked at the level of knowledge needed for the numeracy papers, seemed to be for me maths we didn't learn until high school. But also that the literacy papers didn't seem to need the same level of working to get a level 5. It seemed to be as long as they could use paragraphs and simple punctuation then they would get a level 5 or 6.

I not pressurizing dd1 to get any levels when she does her SAT's, she is well aware that I don't care as long as she does her best. Although she always does better in tests then her day to day work as it's quite and she enjoys them.

Strumpetron · 27/10/2013 20:53

I remember doing my SAT's, got the highest levels and I'm shocked that people want past papers. I don't think they'd be of any benefit to be honest. But if you insist, I just did a quick google search for torrents of them and found some. ~If you know how to download torrents you could do the same.

Picturesinthefirelight · 27/10/2013 21:06

As I said before I'm just curious as to how dd would have done. I wanted the 2013 ones as these arecthecobes everyone else in her year has taken.

lljkk · 27/10/2013 21:19

25% of the class passing L6 maths?!
Must be a yummy mummy Boden school. Please tell me so.

I think national avg last yr was only 4%.

spanieleyes · 27/10/2013 21:24

Nope, 30% FSM and a similar number on the SEN register and 20% EAL too!

Actually, it shows how misleading statistics can be! I teach in a small school and my total year 6 cohort last year was 12. 3 of them achieved level 6 so 25%

pointyfangs · 27/10/2013 21:27

Practising SATs papers = learning exam technique. That's all it is. DD1's school did it and she did fine, DD2's school (different school as we are now 2-tier) is doing it and she will also be fine.

A SATs score will at best reflect how well a child knows their stuff after 7 years at school. Why would you want to distort that by doing extra drill at home? They might get a higher level, but that won't mean they understand all the material and they may well get a nasty shock when they hit Yr7 and find that they aren't really a L6 at all...

I'm going to let the school do it, and whatever DD2 gets will be what she gets. I want her to end up in the right set, not in one that makes me look good.

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pointyfangs · 27/10/2013 21:28

Nice demo of the power of stats there, spanieleyes

spanieleyes · 27/10/2013 21:35

It says 25% in the national statistics published, so I'm not going to argue!!

lljkk · 27/10/2013 21:35

That was my other thought... whether you only had 4 entries, lol.
DD got L6 in maths and seems to her like she is miles ahead of nearly all rest of her math set at secondary (big high school with high rep).

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