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Moving to London in three weeks. Looking for a good primary school.(63 Posts)
We are looking to move to London in about 3 weeks. DH will be working in Moorgate in one of the banks. I am very confused about where to look for houses in the catchment of good/outstanding primary schools that wont make life too difficult with commute etc. Please suggest.
Look at cuffley in hertfordshire. Trains go into moorgate i think. Cheshunt as well ,Trains go into Liverpool street. We live in cheshunt and Dh works in Fenchurch street and if u time it right with the fast trains he can do it in 40 mins door to door. 3 bed houses in cheshunt rent for around £1300 p/m.
Yes, there is lots of expat movement in our school, too. I know there will be children leaving in Y1, Y2, Y3, Y4 and Y5 by the end of term (all going back to the US).
Last week I know there were 3 spaces in Y1 in an 'outstanding' rated Richmond primary. They may have gone by now... But in our part of Richmond, there are lots of expat families who move back to their home countries and locals who get posted abroad as well as people who just want to move somewhere else.
>> I don't want to be gloomy, but it is very unlikely that that there are any (Ofsted rated) "good" primary schools in London with spaces, at the KS1 end at least
As I said before, there are no full KS1 classes in my daughter's school, rated good very recently under the new tougher guidelines. It is less popular than other schools in the area because it was only rated satisfactory until last year. This is in Richmond. For commutes, Richmond isn't bad, although the journey may be longish because for the tube you are the start of the line so get a seat and for the train it's not always too full by the Richmond area. DH generally gets a seat at North Sheen. However £1500 for a three bed house does sound a bit optimistic!
confusedmum, PM me if you want to know the name of the school so you can draw your own conclusions. You could try calling schools direct if the council are no help.
free spaces depend on the school and its area. speak to the schools and the lea to get a clear picture. there are threads on mumsnet where families are still waiting after 2 years...... a school that i looked into which was only 2 miles from us said that their local population was very stable and places rarely come up! so check the local conditions rather than what is said here as there are big differences across london depending on the area.
There is huge movement of pupils in London so plenty of excellent schools do have places as families move away. Our Richmond primary is oversubscribed every year in reception and took a bulge last year, but here are now a couple of spaces in Y 1 as families have moved. They will almost certainly get filled but not always immediately.
My friend just moved to Richmond during the summer holidays and got her dds into school straight away. Year one and year five. She didn't know it was a possibility that it would be hard as she's not British.
Richmond is a bear to travel in/out of. The roads are a nightmare! When communting in london you need to have two+ half decent routes!
I always need an hours walk at worst.
For moorgate I def wouldn't look at Richmond area etc as that's a really long commute ( and expensive). I would look north east/ east/ south east
In comparison we are central/ west and £1500 gets us a 1 bed flat.
A friend moved mid-year and got spaces for her two children (year 7 and year 5). Do the councils advise on space availability?
I don't want to be gloomy, but it is very unlikely that that there are any (Ofsted rated) "good" primary schools in London with spaces, at the KS1 end at least
Are you catholic? There are some good RC schools around wimbledon.
another vote for East Finchley here. If there are no tubes or you miss the last tube it is on the bus/ night bus route that follows the Northern Line. In the summer you have the Muswell Hill/ Crouch End pub life not so far away.
Between Moorgate and East Finchley are the restaurants of Upper Street Islington if you want to meet half way babysitters permitting.
Example catchment road Creighton Avenue, N2 (split between borough of Barnet & Haringay)
Don't discount places in SE London. Southwark has some amazing schools and it's lovely area - greenest borough in London in terms of parks and outside spaces. You can get to Moorgate from the London Overground via a quick switch at Whitechapel. Otherwise straight up on the Northern line.
>> if the school is good it will noy have space
This really isn't necessarily the case. My DD's school has been recently unpopular in the local area (probably due to Satisfactory rating dating back quite some time with no inspections in between) but was recently rated Good by Ofsted and a couple of the other nearby schools which had been wildly popular (maybe still are, who knows) were downrated from Outstanding to Good. So my DD's school has spaces in KS1 classes and KS2 classes and is a good school (I would actually say a wonderful school and I far preferred it to the others when I looked round them all) but still isn't popular. We are kind of spoilt for choice round here though (Richmond). There really aren't any actually bad primary schools.
I think if you are trying to get mid year admission, there is no poitn researching to find your ideal area/school as if the school is good it will noy have space. You need to start by working out which schools have places (whether state or private if that is feasible) and work around what is available. Otherwise you are setting yourself up for huge disappointment.
I heard that St Albans was very tricky for secondary catchments.... Don't know the details but you can search old mumsnet threads if no one with more detailed information comes along.
Really do look at Potters Bar /Dame Alice Owen catchment. It's worth it's weight in gold for secondary school admissions. Super transport links to Moorgate.
Thanks much guys. I have been looking at St. albans and Werwyn/ Werwyn garden city. I can see good schools and affordable properties. any ideas around these areas. We prefer quiet location suitable for families.
Enfield? But one station is more convenient to moorgate than the other.
Try the far northeast end of the central line. Either Redbridge, or Epping Forest areas. Housing is cheaper, it's still leafy, the commute the City is a breeze and there are plenty of good primaries.
Here are the postcodes and best schools along the line, that I know through word of mouth. You can use the post codes to search Rightmove for properties.
Southwoodford, E18 - I don't know the good school there!
Woodford, IG8 - Churchfields School
Buckhurst Hill, IG9 - St John's CE or Buckhurst Hill Primary
Loughton, IG10 - Staples Road
If you are Catholic you can try St Anthony's in Woodford (catchment of woodford and Buckhurst Hill) or St John Fisher in Loughton.
Try places on the new East London line like Forest Hill/Honor Oak in SE23, or Sydenham in SE26. ABout 13 minutes into London Bridge from FH and then walk, or take the Overground and change onto the Northern.
Plenty of 3 bed places for 1500 a month. A selection:
I only know primaries in Forest Hill, but Horniman, Fairlawn, Eliot Bank, Dalmain, Kilmorie are all very good, some excellent, and sought after by thsoe from neighbouring SE22 where the catchments are often smaller because of the dense population/nappy valley syndrome.
It's nonsense that there are no KS1 places in Richmond primaries.
But it is true that rental prices are high in this borough, so have a look at house agencies before deciding!
I have a 6 year old dd, and my went to school in Dublin. Good luck with the decisions, and the move, confusedmum
I second the redbridge suggestion. In particular look at South Woodford. Really easy commute to the city, a few outstanding and lots of good schools and places are likely to come up quickly because the schools are quite big and there is quite a lot of movement so places come up even in the outstanding schools.
You could definitely get a 3 bedroom house for £1500 per month.
You could get a 3 bed for about 1200 further out, with commuting costs 250-300 pcm.
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