Anyone quit teaching for tutoring/supply?

(20 Posts)
GampyWabbit Thu 03-Oct-13 15:11:19

I'm in the midlands. Have been doing supply for 7 months now and my life has changed so much for the better. Thoroughly enjoying supply teaching without the added stresses that often come with the job! smile

amistillsexy Thu 03-Oct-13 15:04:55

Sounds like a good agency you've got there, GampyWabbit. I think I'd like to join up as well grin

jussi Thu 03-Oct-13 15:03:23

GampyWabbit-where are you in the country? And what agency is it? Is it primary or secondary?

GampyWabbit Thu 03-Oct-13 13:07:15

I do supply with an agency and feel I get paid well. I am no worse off on a working week than I when working on a contract. I work 2 days a week and have £226 paid in to my account each week. Around £30 a week (on top of the £226) of my pay goes in to my 'holiday fund', which I can request at any time.

professorpoopsnagle Tue 01-Oct-13 10:25:26

I tutor and it's taken about a year to get really busy, so I think if you have students already and can build on that it won't take you long. ATM I do 7 'hours' of private tuition and 3 sessions in a centre so I think it would be possible to get what you're looking for, depending on your subject and if you're prepared to offer a good age range. Downside is the hours, you may need to decide if you're better doing 4 hours twice a week or 2 hours 4 times a week.

amistillsexy Mon 30-Sep-13 23:00:26

shock I'm getting a LOT more than that straight from the LA. I get a proportion of what my salary would be if I were a full time teacher at my current rate of pay.

I would be very, very grumpy if I were you, Oakmaiden. That is truly crap sad

I guess I can feel very fortunate, then, and stop complaining when I only get a couple of days' work a month!

Oakmaiden Mon 30-Sep-13 22:18:42

I'm a supply teacher - I find it relatively easy to get close to full time work, but there are drawbacks. The pay where I live is truly rubbish - all the schools get their supplies through agencies, and I understand pay the agencies £120, of which the agency pockets £45 before passing it on to an Umbrella Agency, who pocket another £5 a day before taking out my tax and NI. Oh, and 12% for my holiday pay. I am lucky to see £50 a day.

Makes me grumpy.

amistillsexy Mon 30-Sep-13 22:02:53

I've avoided signing up with any agencies so far. It looks like I've had a lucky escape grin. Is there any reason not to go it alone, like we used to do in the good old days, just find a few schools you like and get paid directly from the LA?

MiaowTheCat Mon 30-Sep-13 12:24:42

When cover supervisors came in and the requirement for QTS to cover classes went - primary seemed to survive a lot better than secondary initially as the agencies suddenly started recruiting for "supply cover supervisors" - knowing full well they'd get qualified teachers who wouldn't just supervise but would teach as well... and the schools bloody well knew it too so would complain if they didn't get this - basically decimating daily rates.

Seemed to survive better in primary - but then the agencies all started getting (at least round here) desperate for business and I was fielding constant calls asking me to work for half-rate, or to do a "free trial taster morning" which I wouldn't be paid for and would basically be doing on the trust that I'd get any future bookings (well any school who is sane and watching the budget is going to turn around and say "nope, didn't like that one - send us someone different please" and wangle a string of free trial mornings thus covering half of the absences they needed covering anyway!) and then we had the "buy one get one free" one they tried to get me in on (again - the discounts not coming out of the agency's cut for some straaaaange reason) - I objected to that one on the grounds it made me sound like a pack of loo roll really! When you factor in the endless new CRBs they were needing, and the fact that if you didn't work for a few weeks they wanted to redo references and CRBs, plus petrol for all these trips out for free - it was just becoming so much of a case of needing to pay out more to work than you were earning for me.

My fab consultant who was really bullshit free being moved to set up a new branch was about the final straw - his successor (and any agency is only as good as whoever's running your desk at the time) was shit and lost them so much business she started all the stupid BOGOF desperation schemes.

I used to make a decent living out of it working as much as I needed to basically - the quiet period from the start of September was taking longer and longer to pick up each year too... used to be by the end of September work was up to a decent level, then start of November and by the time I packed it in you were lucky if you got anything at all before the first half term holiday.

amistillsexy Sun 29-Sep-13 20:38:55

Miaow, I've just started doing some bits of supply. What do you mean by
however these days with the way work's dried up, the slashing of daily rates and the idiot antics of agencies (free trials, buy one get one frees etc) and the regulations changed and it all got stupid.?

I don't use an agency but have considered it. What are the 'new' regulations, and what antics do the agencies use? I really feel out of the loop, and would love someone to explain what is going on, if you could?

MiaowTheCat Sun 29-Sep-13 19:09:25

I did supply for years and loved it (after I was no longer prepared to make my health suffer to teach full time). Did a mix of it, test marking and tutoring... however these days with the way work's dried up, the slashing of daily rates and the idiot antics of agencies (free trials, buy one get one frees etc) I would no longer recommend it as a way forward if you're actually dependent on that for a "core" source of income - if you need it just to pay for the luxuries then fine, but not to rely on it for your roof above your head these days.

I just enjoyed the variety of supply - some schools and kids treated you like shit but normally schools were really nice to me as someone they could see knew what they were doing and just got on and did the job in hand (and you never had to go back to the schools which were crap again if you didn't want to) - used to get regular bookings at a number of schools and did well out of it for years till the regulations changed and it all got stupid. It's no longer financially viable for us.

Tutoring - I found the demand was nuts a couple of years ago - but the chain tutoring outfits have moved in with a vengeance and it's been quiet the last couple of years - haven't been heavily chasing pupils though because of having my own kids arrive. Your mileage will depend on where you live, how good the schools are viewed to be by parents locally and how busy the area already is with the likes of Kumon and Kip McGrath etc.

justdoit75 Sun 29-Sep-13 12:00:51

Why don't you contact www.prepschooltutor.co.uk? They offer online tutoring so super flexible for you! I've watched my niece in her tutorials and it's not hard to learn how to do it. I keep plugging them as they seem to tick every box for the kids. Not sure what your subject is but I'd enquire and see if they have any openings. All friends that have tried Supply teaching have hated it. You have to be very lucky to get a good posting...

GampyWabbit Sat 28-Sep-13 23:22:45

I left my part time primary teaching position last year. I have been doing supply since and absolutely love it. I love the fact I have no responsibility once the children leave the classroom and I have finished marking. My time at home is my own completely. I don't have to worry about observations or monitoring and enjoy being an anonymous person in schools most if the time!

GW297 Sat 28-Sep-13 23:06:39

I love the flexibility and part time ness of supply!

jussi Sat 28-Sep-13 17:41:29

Am doing supply now and loving it. Working part time though and have landed myself regular work in one school each week for 1 day. Other day I phone in on the day and 99% of time get work. Obviously depends on where you are, how far you are willing to travel, etc.
I am only available on set days so have child care/pickups sorted for those days regardless of whether I have work or not.

Euphemia Sat 28-Sep-13 16:16:50

I did supply (Primary) for four years and hated it.

Never knowing when or if work was going to appear.
Paying for childcare I ended up not needing.
Never feeling I belonged anywhere.
The stress of not knowing what I was going in to: which stage, work left for me or not, nice or badly-behaved class.
Etc!

sheridand Sat 28-Sep-13 15:21:57

It is not less work in Secondary, far from it! I am in the process of swapping downwards the other way, so I know what i'm on about! I spent every night with a "task". GCSE and AS/A2 marking is increasingly onerous, and everything has to be levelled, just as it does in Primary. I had 1 Yr 7 class, 1 Yr 8, 2 Yr 9, and 1 GCSE, 1 As, and 1A2 class in my last year at Secondary, all of which required marking every week, in the school style, ready for spot book checks. AS/A2 essays were routinely upwards of 4 sides of A4. Then Christmas was spent readying for Mocks, Easter was spent in school doing revision sessions, after school from January to May I was scheduled at revision club, and then in the "off" time once the examinees had gone, we were used as cover or off site work experience checkers in our "free" periods.

Promotion also utterly depends on geographical area and subject. In mine, rural England, history teaching, it is "dead mens boots". More fluid when I was in London, of course.

Anyway, off topic. Tutoring being worthwhile depends on where you are. In London, I could do well, particularly with 11 plus candidates. But rurally, the charge is less and the 11 plus candidates fewer. I found that I had to travel into Cambridge to get enough uptake to make it worthwhile, and then the petrol wiped out a lot of it.

In the end, I went back as a HLTA, I do 8.30-3, have no childcare as the kids are at school with me, and no marking other than when i've covered a full day. It's lovely! And the wage is approximately what I made less childcare anyway, but with little stress and with the enjoyment of the job intact. I will consider going back, this time to primary, when I feel I can balance work and kids / life more easily. This isn't to say Primary teachers have it easy, they clearly do not, but the marking load was what killed me in Secondary, and that certainly is more manageable ( outside of Year 6, anyway).

I also found supply very on/off. It was nigh on impossible to balance it with childcare, and so last minute, unless the supply was for a teacher with a long-term illness, that it was just daft trying to juggle it.

Arisbottle Sat 28-Sep-13 09:56:45

Haver you thought about moving schools . Is the any way you can move into secondary, more chance of a promotion so more money and less work

MinnieMousse Sat 28-Sep-13 09:55:06

I'm interested to know this. I think you might get more of a response if it was posted in The Staffroom section?

crazilybusy Fri 27-Sep-13 16:45:12

Just really fed up. Never-ending observations, inaccurate feedback, the ever-changing goal posts, new curriculum ahead, Ofsted every couple of years, prp, unrealistic targets etc etc. I love the children and they always make fantastic progress in my class, but the rest of it is just so depressing! I don't make much after childcare anyway.

So - tutoring? I currently tutor two teens for a GCSE subject, and I have tutored for 11+ in the past. Is it possible to get, say, 8 hours a week? Or 5? What is supply like?

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