KS2 SATS - did anyone at your school get Level 6 reading??

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kitnkaboodle Tue 16-Jul-13 23:18:59

.. just wondering. I know it's very rare across the country. Our school entered 5 pupils and none of them got it

pugsandseals Sun 21-Jul-13 00:24:35

Hi all, I've come to throw a spanner in the works! DD has 3 level 5's for her SATS having taken 2 out of 3 of the level 6 papers & 'failed'. She had no extra tuition for these.
However, she blitzed her entrance exam for a medium tier private school & was offered a double scholarship.
In my mind, I can only assume that the schools that get high numbers of level 6's teach to the test. Entrance papers are far more about testing a childs ability to learn.
Just my opinion. I must admit, I was initially disappointed with her level 5 scores knowing about the scholarships. But now it seems obvious to me that they sats are teaching something completely different. A bit worrying really!

Xihha Sun 21-Jul-13 00:51:59

I've always wondered if SATs are a bit pointless, especially as i know a few children who did brilliantly in the 11+ but got really low sats scores and a few that were the other way round.

Well done to your daughter pugsandseals.

lljkk Sun 21-Jul-13 08:07:48

We're all big fat liars, Kitnka. wink
Well, not me, but the rest obviously.
DD says she hasn't "learned" anything new since SATs week. So that part of the myths holds up. But she doesn't mind. Loads & loads of other activities.

Feenie Sun 21-Jul-13 10:16:30

December, kitna.

Galaxymum Sun 21-Jul-13 13:36:04

No - and it was a very bright year at our school. 21% achieved level 6 at maths and 7% level 6 at writing. Several were considered to have achieved the reading level 6 by the teacher's general assessments in class though.

Merrylegs Sun 21-Jul-13 14:06:46

Dd got L6 in reading last year. She didn't know she was going to do it and was a bit miffed she had to do an extra exam in the afternoon. I didn't see any statistics so I had no idea it was so tough to get. Will congratulate her belatedly!

florenceeexo Fri 04-Apr-14 23:31:53

actually, it's not. my daughter goes to a public school and is working at gcse level already. Don't make it sound hard to make your child sound better.... They're not hard, you just need a good mindset.

florenceeexo Fri 04-Apr-14 23:33:49

my daughter got level 6 in everything.

Feenie Fri 04-Apr-14 23:52:15

You upped a nine month old thread with a zombie warning just to boast about your dd and have a go??!! shock

Piddlepuddle Sat 05-Apr-14 00:00:47

And no doubt you need marvellous parents too, Florence!

carvel55 Tue 15-Jul-14 12:34:24

So proud my Daughter got level 6 in everything this year

IamSlave Tue 15-Jul-14 18:10:24

what do you have to read to get level 6?

Dottymum2 Tue 15-Jul-14 21:18:51

What level would be expected end of year 5 to be on track for the reading level 6? My dd has a 5B on her end of year report but her end of year test was graded a 5A. I presume this stands her in good stead but have also heard it's very difficult to achieve!!!

Diamonds70 Wed 16-Jul-14 00:30:15

My son got level 6's in the maths and S&G but not the reading! none of them got the reading.

HPFA Tue 22-Jul-14 11:51:24

In reply to Dottymum2, I did read somewhere on another thread that the Year 5 reading test is considered quite easy, and scores can come out high compared to what will be achieved in the KS2 SATS. My daughter also got 5B on her Year 5 report and I would prefer her not to sit the Level 6 reading paper next year. I don't think there is any benefit to her getting a 6 rather than a 5A ( since a 5A should get her into one of the higher sets at secondary) - I'd sooner she saved her energies for the Maths where she 's currently on 4A. All our local secondaries do their initial setting on the SATS results so I'd like her to get 5s all round if possible.

Dottymum2 Tue 22-Jul-14 11:55:29

Thank u for that.

I saw the L6 reading paper this year and even as a secondary English teacher I was astounded at how hard it was. Unnecessarily hard IMO. Minute pass rate this year.

I agree that the secondaries don't want it!

rabbitstew Tue 22-Jul-14 13:46:16

What on earth was florenceeexo's dd taking KS2 SATs for if she goes to a public school? She must be at least 13-years old. grin

PiqueABoo Tue 22-Jul-14 14:18:48

@IHeartKingThistle: Did you see last years for comparison? I ask because they raised the L6 Reading pass threshold from 22/34 to 24/34 this year.

No didn't see it.

Toomanyhouseguests Tue 22-Jul-14 16:46:36

Our school has never entered any children for the L6 reading test. They only enter them for the L6 maths test.

After skimming this thread, it sounds like it is just as well. I don't want the dc wasting their time on something that is essentially "rigged."

PiqueABoo Tue 22-Jul-14 21:21:29

It's difficult to know what an L6 Reading pass means and it's insanely difficult if you try to hold one year up against another. I believe these are the years and thresholds:

2011: 13/32 (~40%)
2012: 19/30 (~63%)
2013: 22/34 (~65%)
2014: 24/34 (~70%).

Are they effectively telling us it's become easier every year or are they making it harder to pass? Are they deliberately keeping the pass rate norm-referenced at around 0.5%? Next time some competitive parent reminds us yet again that their child passed L6 reading, should we ask them which year?

The exam has effectively been called a useless waste of money in a formal report commissioned by the DfE and I think it's an unreliable crock with serious marking criteria difficulties (something a seasoned expert I know has been quite vexed about).

Yes, I don't think you need L6 Reading at your primary school but it's obviously good to have reading for pleasure (ideally a mix of genres) at home.

L6 maths is a quite different creature and I'd be unimpressed by a school that didn't make that available to suitable children.

pyrrah Tue 22-Jul-14 21:45:21

None for reading but 3% for writing, 5% for SPG and nearly 20% for maths.

Feenie Tue 22-Jul-14 22:26:03

I send papers back for re-marking regularly, and my reports are usually upheld. I sent 3 level 6s back last year - all of my complaints were upheld, but they re-marked the whole paper again (normal) and conveniently decided there were mistakes in the marking of the rest of the paper, making the re-mark null and void.

It's a game.

SweetSummerSweetPea Tue 22-Jul-14 22:29:30

what is required reading material for level 6?

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