No progress / only one sub level. How acceptable is this? KS2

(16 Posts)
stopthinkingsomuch Fri 12-Jul-13 00:07:42

As title says, I just wondered what everyones thoughts were on this.

juniper9 Fri 12-Jul-13 00:46:31

Expected progress is 3 sub levels within two years in key stage 2, so one sub-level progress in one year is not counted as a problem, unless it happens for more than one year.

Which year are you talking about?

curlew Fri 12-Jul-13 00:58:28

What year and what levels?

Taffeta Fri 12-Jul-13 07:05:02

If its Level 3, it's probably fine. Level 3 is huge.

juniper9 Fri 12-Jul-13 08:02:04

Especially the 2a to 3c jump, and especially in year 3 as year 2 sats results always seem massively inflated (at least in my school)

stopthinkingsomuch Sat 13-Jul-13 06:28:36

He's year 4, maths 3a

Taffeta Sat 13-Jul-13 06:36:32

I wouldn't worry personally. 3a means he is working at the top of that level but not yet at the next. But it may be that the teacher wasn't teaching L4 Maths in the class, which is a different ball game.

mam29 Sat 13-Jul-13 07:00:01

Taffeta your comments worry means as there could be so many kids out their who dot get opportunity eg if teacher only does level 4 with top table.

That was my worry last year with dd year 2 that being on bottom table for maths and literacy that they would write her off and never expect greatness

Sometimes the nc levels like self fulfilling prophecy that that child has one bad year they limited for years to come.

Dixiefish Sat 13-Jul-13 07:42:39

DD2 (also Yr 4) went up one sub-level in maths from Yr 2 to Yr 3 but has now gone 3 sub-levels between Yr 3 to Yr 4. Same maths teacher so it's not sudden genius teaching! The teacher said it was actually very common for progress not to be even, so I think you need to see at least 2 years of data before worrying.

chicaguapa Sat 13-Jul-13 07:55:02

I would second most of these comments. Monitor the situation and expect to see some progress during the next year. Based on experience, I would mention it during the year at parents' eve if you don't start seeing some movement, rather than leaving it to the end of the year.

lljkk Sat 13-Jul-13 17:47:34

I wouldn't give it a second thought. Honestly. They aren't robots, their brains weren't programmed according to govt. targets.

clam Sat 13-Jul-13 19:06:54

Would you worry if they only grew 2cms in height this year, as opposed to 5cm the year before? Or would you put it down to the fact that children have growth spurts and plateaus?
Don't worry yet.

simpson Sun 14-Jul-13 00:08:52

I was told my yr3 DS was going to make no progress in his writing this year (finished yr2 on a 3C). I had several chats with his teacher about it.

But he pulled it out of the bag at the last minute and got a 3B and I am really proud of him smile

DeWe Sun 14-Jul-13 17:31:51

Also if they're levels, it depends on where they are in the level band. If he just scraped a 3b last year and is now right at the top of 3a, then he'd could have made more progress than one who was right at the top of 3b last year and scraped a 4c this year.

If you look at it as marks (which it's not) as:
21-30=3b
31-40=3a
41-50=4c

So bottom of 3b=21, top of 3a= 40: 19 points difference.
Top of 3b=30, bottom of 4c=41: 11 point difference.

So the levels tell you something about progress, but not necessarily give a full picture of how much progress has or hasn't been made.

Elibean Sun 14-Jul-13 18:28:24

My Y4 dd, weirdly, has made 3 sublevels of progress in her writing and only 1 level of progress in her reading. Her reading is great, and she's a level 4 so I'm not worried in the slightest - but was a bit confused as to how her writing had caught up with her reading in terms of levels, as it appears to have done.

But I absolutely agree that children are not computers, and learn in spurts - perhaps this is proof of it!

Elibean Sun 14-Jul-13 18:28:45

Sorry, 'only 1 sublevel in her reading'

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