Why don't we use 'magic e' any more?

(115 Posts)
Pozzled Tue 30-Apr-13 19:23:35

And is it a problem if my child is taught in that way? I'm not very impressed (especially when I've already taught her 'split digraph') but want to know if it really matters.

mrz Tue 30-Apr-13 19:34:23

because it isn't magic

and you have words like
have and give where the <ve> represents the sound /v/ and come and some where the <me> represents /m/ etc

My year 1 has done magic e this year.

(Out of context that sounds like a very worrying sentence!)

Periwinkle007 Tue 30-Apr-13 19:37:21

I can't see why it would make any difference to be honest. I told my 5 year old it was magic e, she is happy and uses it correctly and school will no doubt tell her in a year or so it is a split digraph. doesn't change knowing how to use it, just the name of it

alienbanana Tue 30-Apr-13 19:37:57

I like ninja E

spottyparrot Tue 30-Apr-13 19:38:44

Our school still does magic e.

learnandsay Tue 30-Apr-13 19:40:32

We do in our house.

spanky2 Tue 30-Apr-13 19:42:34

I know magic e was much and more fun. Modifying e is just boring .

mrz Tue 30-Apr-13 19:48:01

it isn't a modifying e either hmm

simpson Tue 30-Apr-13 19:53:22

DD taught herself the magic e way before starting school thanks to alphablocks and has had no problems in switching to a/e, o/e etc...now she is in reception.

I guess the magic bit is unnecessary information for some kids who just want to know what the sound is.

learnandsay Tue 30-Apr-13 19:55:48

It's just a lighthearted way of introducing a rule. In lots of cases neither it nor split digraph actually tell you what the sound is, you have to already be familiar with the word.

KatyDid02 Tue 30-Apr-13 19:58:20

I've heard a split e used before, I think I prefer that.

mrz Tue 30-Apr-13 20:03:52

We say split spellings

bigbuttons Tue 30-Apr-13 20:05:53

split frigging digraphs. I still teach it as magic e. Somehow the word magic is a lot more accessible and interesting to 5 year old than split frigging digraph

Ninja e! Genius! I'm borrowing that one.

split boring digraph boring mutter boring ...

ThePlatypusAlwaysTriumphs Tue 30-Apr-13 20:11:31

I still remember the "magic magic E" sings from Look and Read smile Ah, Wordy...

We use friend on the end.
Have you seen the magic e song? I miss it!

mrz Tue 30-Apr-13 20:14:12

Why use either?

learnandsay Tue 30-Apr-13 20:25:04

Personally I think it adds a bit of fun to an otherwise dull procedural rule.

mrz Tue 30-Apr-13 20:30:57

Don't you find non existent procedural rules are dull due to the fact there aren't any?

learnandsay Tue 30-Apr-13 20:37:25

Aren't you saying that the use of a magic e is a procedural rule which in fact does not exist?

mrz Tue 30-Apr-13 20:41:40

There isn't a rule learnandsay and there isn't a magic e shock

suebfg Tue 30-Apr-13 20:43:05

DS's school use magic e

Pozzled Tue 30-Apr-13 20:43:19

Thanks all. My DD already knows that 've'is a phoneme for /v/ and 'me' for /m/, so I hope that the magic e idea from school doesn't confuse her.

I thought that it was just the 'v' that's making the 'v' sound in 'move', the point being that 'o_e' makes the 'oooo' sound.

Or am I over-complicating?

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