Headteacher and five staff suspended!

(352 Posts)
Educationalshame Tue 26-Feb-13 20:55:08

Have name changed so not to out myself. My children go here sad
I received a letter and that is it. Teachers will not really speak about it to me. What do I do?? Reading the attitudes of the other members of staff "What are teachers supposed to do?" Does not reassure me. Advice? Thoughts? Anyone..

learnandsay Tue 26-Feb-13 22:15:33

I don't want to understand why they are doing it I just want them to do it somewhere else.

Educationalshame Tue 26-Feb-13 22:15:58

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-21584219

I will post a link sorry again it is not on the OP. This one is from the bbc.

Feenie Tue 26-Feb-13 22:16:43

I explained to you that many children suffer traumas and their behaviour suffers - sending them away would be cruel. What if your own dc had something horrible happen - would you still want her sent away? How would that help?

AmberLeaf Tue 26-Feb-13 22:16:58

After reading learnandsays thread about 'bad language and anti-social behavior in general' I suggest she home schools her child.

Clearly she has all the answers and couldn't possibly risk her child mixing with those swearing future serial killers.

lougle Tue 26-Feb-13 22:17:33

learnandsay ignorance is not becoming sad

LineRunner Tue 26-Feb-13 22:18:18

LineRunner, what "specialist provision" do you have in mind?

I would suggest, learnandsay, those things that work best now. If you have better costed solutions, we are all agog.

Good luck in Eastleigh, btw. I think UKIP might do quite well.

HotheadPaisan Tue 26-Feb-13 22:18:21

School have done brilliantly not to exclude DS1 and I am very grateful for that (he's only six). We just need to think a bit more about what should be done when DS1 is losing control in order to avoid it escalating even further.

numbum Tue 26-Feb-13 22:18:52

I don't want to understand why they are doing it I just want them to do it somewhere else.

I'm refraining from saying what I really want to say to that. I hope your DD's are more accepting of challenging/different children than you are

learnandsay Tue 26-Feb-13 22:19:03

If something happened to my daughter to make her want to kick teachers and shout and scream in class then I'd want her sent away to a special unit. You can call it whatever you like and fund it however you like.

Educationalshame Tue 26-Feb-13 22:19:13

Thank you for the support and reassurance smile I will see what tomorrow brings.

5madthings Tue 26-Feb-13 22:19:16

Well its obvious you don't care learnandsay thankfully there are people that do care. Most children aren't just violent for the hell of it and yes we should try and understand them and help them to learn how to behave. Most of the kids my dp works with are/can be violent, they have also suffered horrible abuse. Good job some people care or would you rather they were all locked up in an institution?!

Educationalshame Tue 26-Feb-13 22:20:30

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5madthings Tue 26-Feb-13 22:20:32

You would send you own child away? Nice.

Feenie Tue 26-Feb-13 22:21:14

If something happened to my daughter to make her want to kick teachers and shout and scream in class then I'd want her sent away to a special unit.If something happened to my daughter to make her want to kick teachers and shout and scream in class then I'd want her sent away to a special unit.

Even if it was because something awful had happened? shock

LineRunner Tue 26-Feb-13 22:21:28

OP I'm pretty sure the Local Authority has a massive resource invested in your DC's school now, so it should be fine.

learnandsay Tue 26-Feb-13 22:23:07

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LineRunner Tue 26-Feb-13 22:23:25

learnandsay Your posts are coming across as insane and deranged.

And still uncosted <frowns and tilts head>

5madthings Tue 26-Feb-13 22:23:31

Sorry op, your thread is being der-railed.

I understand it must be horrible and worrying but the school will be being monitered closely now and you say its not your children's teachers involved?

LineRunner Tue 26-Feb-13 22:24:52

OP I agree the school will be very closely monitored, so it should be ok.

tethersend Tue 26-Feb-13 22:25:12

As much as we should understand the reasons why some children are violent, all children MUST be safe at school.

I would like to see all teachers trained in effective behaviour management and positive handling techniques as part of ITT.

Educationalshame Tue 26-Feb-13 22:25:54

5madthings No not any of my children's teachers. My DS's TA has been though

ReallyTired England Tue 26-Feb-13 22:26:03

I think that if a child takes a knife to school then its a police matter WHATEVER age the child is. Teachers cannot be expected to deal with that level of danger.

Teachers are not trained to deal with weapons.

NewYearsEvelyn Tue 26-Feb-13 22:26:30

This is not a straightforward situation. If you were the parents of children in the class who were threatened by this child, how would you react? What would you have wanted the staff to do? Would you have wanted this child removed from the classroom and your children kept safe? I think I would have.

In terms of the room being a cupboard, it is undoubtedly a DMism, ie an over-exaggeration of the facts and unlikely to be true.

Was there a knife involved? The Telegraph seem pretty sure there was. How would you react as a human being if confronted by a child with a knife? Even with training, this would be a difficult situation to handle. It's hard to know the severity of the 'offence' that caused this situation and the severity of the consequences doled out by the staff.

In terms of children with anger issues and difficult/challenging behaviour needing one to one support and understanding, how would that be funded exactly? We scarcely have enough funding in our school to pay for photocopying paper to produce resources for the classes we teach. I don't think that's gonna happen.

I know that children often have an escalation process with anger issues or behaviour, but they can also be unpredictable and quick to anger, with little time to put intervention strategies into place.

Regardless of what thoughts this triggers, any conclusions we reach are based on pure conjecture and without the facts, I wouldn't like to condemn the staff or the child involved in this.

letseatgrandma Tue 26-Feb-13 22:27:08
BooksandaCuppa Tue 26-Feb-13 22:27:17

Abuse, neglect, homelessness, hunger, bereavement, serious illness (self or family member), trauma, divorce, witnessing domestic violence...

The list of things which can cause violent behaviours are almost endless (and I've deliberately not included SENs such as autism spectrum and ADHD which might be considered fixed conditions). Any of these could happen to almost any child, regardless of their current familial and socio-economic background.

Not sure what else to say really.

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