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Orangeflower7 · 03/03/2011 21:48

Apologies if you have already seen this, I think I posted it in the wrong place, re-posting here..

How is it? I trained as a primary teacher and am presently a sahm. I am thinking of returning to teaching. I am trying to think of pros and cons-

Money, of course
Rewarding, inspiring
Fits in school hours

Am worried though, remember how teaching feels like, similar to mothering- the responsibility, the paperwork...how do you ever switch of from children? (IYKWIM)

OK I was an NQT but remember after school I needed the time to plan/ have a rest/ wine!
How do you ever have the patience, or time, to fit in your own children at the end of the day?

So would you (or not) recommend combining teaching primary and having little ones?

I possibly need to go in volunteer at ds school, as had a particularly difficult last experience teaching. I taught in the school hall (reception children) which was separate from the school, no toilets for the little ones and very little TA support. It has put me off a bit and am just looking for a little support before having another go I guess!

In my area there is huge competition for jobs just now and NQTs are going for HLTA jobs. I was also wondering about that.

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Littlefish · 03/03/2011 22:03

You're right that it can be incredibly rewarding, but can also be very frustrating re. paperwork and jumping through hoops.

Teaching definitely doesn't fit in with school hours.

How old are your children? Do you have access to good, regular childcare? My working hours are 7.30 - 5.30, meaning that I am out of the house between 7 - 6. We're lucky that dh can start later in the mornings so he does the morning run.

Yes, there is huge competition for jobs in Primary. Are you looking for part time or full time?

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Orangeflower7 · 03/03/2011 22:18

School hours- oh I know I meant in principle...my ds has just started school you see and the head offered me a bit of work..it has an after school and breakfast club...

It would just be part time, sould definitely not do full time. My dp can drop off my other son at nursery in the morning, he works from home most days. Guess I'm lucky the head offered that then, supply I guess it would be to start with.

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footballsgalore · 03/03/2011 22:18

Teaching fits in with the holidays, which IMO is the teacher's company car! But it does not fit into school hours in a term-time childcare sense unless you teach at the same school that your kids attend.

Cons: It is stressful and tiring. You will be drained at the end of the day and will have to deal with your own children before you can get to marking/planning/preparation. This will make the day longer than it was pre-children. You may also suffer from 'using up all your patience on other people's kids' and be grumpy and intolerant when you get home. You will find it virtually impossible to switch off from children.

Pros: It's lovely to be with children all day, making a difference in their lives. If being a SAHM is wearing you down, the variety may pick you up again. I like being a professional and a grown up for a few days a week! If you loved teaching before your bad experience, choose carefully and you will love it again.

Maybe volunteer first to get back into the swing of things. A TA's job may have all the pros and fewer of the cons if finances allow! Try part time? PPA cover jobs have less paperwork as no class responsibility.
HTH

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footballsgalore · 03/03/2011 22:19

Sorry x posts!

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Orangeflower7 · 03/03/2011 22:23

Aha thanks footballs..well finances must be more than sahm...yes the head offered either TA of teaching supply...she is very keen on my experience of a project at the other school, however I am aware that was quite a while back and feeling very 'out of it' in terms of being in school. Yes you voiced what I was thinking in terms of being with children and I need to go in and find out how I'd feel before committing to anything. It would be easy to just think go for it, especially if it is tricky to get at the moment and has been offered.

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Orangeflower7 · 03/03/2011 22:24

Meant 'TA or teaching supply'

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footballsgalore · 03/03/2011 22:39

There are 'back to teaching' courses available for those who have been out of it for a while. I think they update on technology/curriculum/initiatives etc. May be useful for you?
If the Head's offer is for casual/occasional type work, then that may be perfect for dipping your toes in without jumping into a permanent contract straight away.

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Orangeflower7 · 03/03/2011 22:52

Yes there are those courses but I looked and not within 20 miles of here...not great as don't drive. Strange as two good teacher training colleges nearby..Am but scared the head things I know loads and will expect a lot..having that difficult experience which I would never put up with now having had children. Oh well. maybe I will be more feisty after having brought up the dcs, Smile

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Catnao · 04/03/2011 00:56

You don't sound confident - maybe you would bebefit from a refresher course/work experience? I tried to do a secondary PGCE whch began when my son was 2 months old, and I WAS 22. Oh, the arrogance of youth! I did complete my PGCE, but did not apply for a teaching job - instead i went into sales for a couple of years, swearing I would never teach again!

When my son was 2, I started to become interested in primary ed - had never lost my interest in teaching.

Despite the risks of me giving up my job and my partner also taking the plunge, we both retrained and did primary pgce (started when our son was 3). I didn't technically have to, as I has QTS, but did as I thought it important.(Totally different job in some ways and wanted to feel properly trained)
Have not looked back and love my job, and my partner enjoys his too - and we are on what we regard as good money, too.

You can do it! Honestly, you can - if you want to. I am technically qualified to teach secondary - but know that that is not where my strengths lie.

Good luck!

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Orangeflower7 · 04/03/2011 13:53

Ah thanks Catnao- yes I need to get back into the classroom as a helper first. That's what I'll do, nowthat ds2 has started a little nursery. (when he's there I just want to go swim though aha or gaze into space...the freedom from responsibility!)

It is 10 years since I did my PGCE. 6 years sahm. So bit change and yes do need to build up confidence. Keep reminding self of great things gained while being sahm...need patience, creativity, calmness, organisation, self-motivation, a good list of things for all sahp to remind themselves of...is easy to lose confidence when out of the 'workplace'..

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Orangeflower7 · 04/03/2011 13:54

'big change'

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StrandTest · 04/03/2011 15:04

I was a primary school teacher for five years, had four years out (first a different job, then SAHM) and when I went back I couldn't believe how much had changed! I was like Shock So, I would recommend a returner's course if you can arrange that.

Otherwise, pros: School holiday Grin so no need to pay for childcare! Money not bad (or it isn't for me now I've been teaching seven years - it's all better than SAHM money, though!) Insider information on what your DCs are doing, or should be doing Wink Can be rewarding and fun at times.

Cons: hours are horrendous, I work every single weekday evening, even though I teach p/t. Sometimes I can't wait for my DC to go to bed as I have so much do. DC nursery is 8.15 - 5.30 and tbh it is not nearly long enough - I should be doing an hour either side of those hours, plus more at the weekends. It's stressful and tiring, with the hoop jumping and paperwork. Things can change VERY quickly in schools - you may think you've found your perfect set up and then the head leaves, or you get a very difficult class or the school will end up in special measures and your 'perfect' job will be very different.

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footballsgalore · 04/03/2011 20:14

Orangeflower. All those skills gained whilst at home will be in great demand!!! You are also 6 years older and wiser so less likely to throw yourself into something 'risky'. You will probably also find that your priorities have changed and you will strive to put your DC's and family first when considering which job to take! (Beware! It's very easy to slip the other way and your own DC's get shoved down the list.)
Give your local school some free help and build up that confidence! You may be surprised how quickly it returns!
Good luck Smile

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doglover · 04/03/2011 21:13

I find teaching very stressful now that my 2 dds are abit older. When they were in bed by 6:30pm, I then had time to do schoolwork etc. Now they're 10 and 11 and busy with loads of afterschool stuff plus needing homework support, it's really hard to fit MY stuff in. I am considering switching from teaching to becoming a TA next year. I love working with children but want to have a life in the evenings and weekends. HTH

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blackeyedsusan · 04/03/2011 22:09

...soooo if you switch to being a ta...

Do you ever get the urge to be "more in charge" or are you happy with being number 2 and less responsibility? And are so shattered from having your own children that you just are very grateful you don't have to do all that.

(also considering going back out of necessity)

When I taught part time, I found that I could plan and prepare for 2 1/2 days in one afternoon. When I taught 3 days... bye bye Saturday. (all day Saturday) and that was pre dcs.

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StrandTest · 04/03/2011 22:17

blackeyedsusan - really? The difference between 2.5 days and 3 days is that marked? Or did you mean 5 days?

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footballsgalore · 07/03/2011 19:53

I plan for a whole morning for 3 days. Then add on top of that time for marking and the extras of paperwork like SEN letters, trips, subject coordination, club stuff etc
However, I am quite strict with myself about not doing school work when my DC are around. It's their time. Good point about when they are older though doglover, don't know what will happen then.

Sometimes I dream about being a TA Grin (Think I may be too much of a control freak though!!)

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Orangeflower7 · 08/03/2011 21:42

TA- hmm is interesting. Met a dad to young twins recently whose wife worked full time, he has just finished a PGCE in primary (after being a middle school teacher) and has just got a part time job as a High Level TA. He says it pays pretty well and he gets to be in charge a bit without all the responsibility / planning etc. He mainly went for it as it is very competative for teaching jobs here but is now pleased he did. i guess it would be good if you got on well with the teacher.

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Orangeflower7 · 08/03/2011 21:47

Also, thanks for reminding me that even when part time the extras are a lot. Now i think of it the tecahers I knew a few years back, for example, one had a school age ds (in her class)..it was a quite laid back kind of school which had its good and bad points, anyway he used to come in with her..she did 3 days but overall planning for the two classes and told me she used most of one of her 'days off' to do that...some mums do 2.5 days each with little toddler at my ds school but seem quite stressed..

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