Forget google, my daughter knows the answer to fucking everything.

(87 Posts)
CeliaFate Mon 29-Oct-12 20:30:09

She's 12. She is insufferable at the moment.

She argues the toss about everything under the sun.

She's scared to go upstairs and has toddler like tantrums when we tell her to put the lights on and go up.

She moans when we ask her to do anything whatsoever.

All she wants to do is sit on her arse and stuff her face.

She's lazy, manipulative, bolshy and interrupts every single fucking sentence I utter.

Boarding school sounds lovely...anyone else?

Oh my nearly ten year old arguing black is bloody blue at moment.

She's driving me flipping nuts.

Complete attitude and answering back I AM considering leaving home.

NorbertDentressangle Mon 29-Oct-12 21:22:27

I read your title and had to click on the thread to see if she's 12.....and yes she is.

I have one too.

Maybe they could get together and have a conversation that goes something like " no, but....yeah but...why do I have to....no but.....in a minute...I'll do it later....yeah, but...."

lljkk Sun 04-Nov-12 19:54:07

lol @ thread title.

Sparklingbrook Sun 04-Nov-12 19:55:17

Ooh i know a 13 year old boy that she would have a lot in common with. <glares at DS1>

shazbean Sun 04-Nov-12 19:59:01

They're still like that at 12...?!

Mine is 5, with the attitude of a 15 year old since starting school. I was living in hope that it would get better.

<weeps softly into pillow>

Sparklingbrook Sun 04-Nov-12 20:01:11

Let me guess, nothing is ever her fault either. wink

ethelb Sun 04-Nov-12 20:02:41

Oh I was like that and was a relatively ok teen. Your reward will come later.

lljkk Sun 04-Nov-12 20:04:04

Of course not Sparkling, they can walk on water too, given half a chance. wink

Sparklingbrook Sun 04-Nov-12 20:08:08

DS says 'it's not my fault' (well screeches it) about 150 times a day. He left a half full glass of pop on the table and knocked it over. But it wasn't his fault.

It's not his fault his bedroom is a shit tip and he only remembered he had homework today the day before he goes back to school either. angry

is it worse with girls than boys? - My 13 yr old DS has a tidyish bedroom, some attitude but knows when to shut up when he gets the look but does push it with his father. DD who is 10 going on fecking forty's bedroom is a shit tip, all she has to do is walk into the room and everything 'falls out' of the cupboards. The crap is unbeliveable!!

madbengal Sun 11-Nov-12 09:11:23

Mines 11 and all I get is answering back disagreeing with anything i OR when I say this is a warning she pushes for the punishment I mean WTF with wanting punished or it she sulks, looks mumbles when walking away then she " is talking to herself" GAH roll on teenager stage it cant get much worse

baskingseals Sun 11-Nov-12 20:08:37

oh my god.

dd is also scared of going upstairs. it drives me potty. especially as she will go upstairs if it's something she wants to do. but not to brush her teeth or get a warmer jumper.

she thumped ds2 the other day. i said 'you can't hit' she said 'no mum, we shouldn't hit, get your grammar right'

today ds1 and 2 were going to a softplay party - she knows the family really well. me 'dd, would you like to come' dd, slumped on sofa 'no, i am not coming'. five minutes before leaving she then announces that she is coming and has a go at me for not telling her we were leaving.

my nerves are shattered. she is 10. she is honestly making me doubt my sanity.

VivaLeBeaver Sun 11-Nov-12 20:10:12

Great, can you ask her how to put my Samsung galaxy email notification onto silent cos even google can't. Thanks. grin

Sympathies, I have an insufferable 11yo dd.

Flicktheswitch Sun 11-Nov-12 21:17:56

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Sparklingbrook Sun 11-Nov-12 21:24:58

Oh yes Flick the 'WELL I DIDN"T KNOW DID I???'. angry and my helpful response 'Well you should have known'. Then lots of eye rolling.......

baskingseals Sun 11-Nov-12 21:35:51

and the 'you NEVER listen to me'

oh god if only. but as you are about 10cm away from me i don't really have much of a choice do i?

aliasjoey Sun 11-Nov-12 21:53:54

another one here, 10 years old, I was hoping things would improve soon?

And they think we adults are stupid and out of touch... they do the eye-roll...

uggmum Sun 11-Nov-12 21:56:23

I so feel your pain. My dd is 13. Bossy and bad tempered. Oh, and everything is my 'fault'. Grrr!

poorbuthappy Sun 11-Nov-12 21:57:11

I have an 8 year like this. I thought I had a few more years before it got to this point. sad
I have lost count of the amount of times she has argued with me today. hmm

Curlygirly Mon 12-Nov-12 12:03:08

I feel your pain.
With ds1 who is 10, every request to him is answered with "What the heck/hell!"

foxy6 Mon 12-Nov-12 22:01:31

i love the title of this thread grin. my dd is 9 and starting with the moodinesses so i'm sure i have lots of fun headed my way lol

baskingseals Tue 13-Nov-12 10:13:38

with dd it's like i've stepped through some kind of portal and into a completely different universe run by a rather inflexible all powerful ALWAYS right emperor. i am reduced to mere minion status. i am certainly not human and do not have feelings, and if i presume to, they are over-ridden by the FAR more real and important feelings of said emperor.

it can be quite unnerving at times.

CelstialNavigation Tue 13-Nov-12 10:17:50

"she thumped ds2 the other day. i said 'you can't hit' she said 'no mum, we shouldn't hit, get your grammar right'"

grin

baskingseals Tue 13-Nov-12 10:21:43

i know celstia i know

i am a shadow of my former self

Viva if you find out please let me know!

LtEveDallas Tue 13-Nov-12 10:26:04

So I've got a seven-going-on-twelve year old then? Gee thanks sad

(I get a lot of "Well I'm not going to do ANYTHING, EVER AGAIN" as the response to a telling off...grrr....)

ClaimedByMe Tue 13-Nov-12 10:32:22

If I hear "OH MY GWAAAAAAAD" from my nearly 10 year old she may get a one way ticket to boarding school.

DD wash your hands for tea "OH MY GWAAAAAAD"
DD brush your teeth "OH MY GWAAAAAAAAD"
etc
etc

Lancelottie Tue 13-Nov-12 10:33:05

You can borrow my 14 yr old if you like. He doesn't know anything.

'I HAVEN'T GOT ANY SHIRTS!'
'How can you not have shirts left when it's only Tuesday?'
'HOW SHOULD I KNOW?'
'What did you do with the clean ones?'
'I DON'T KNOW DO I?'
'Well you'll have to wear yesterday's [ick]. Where's that?'
'DON'T KNOW!'

[rummages in wash bin. Finds stack of folded, clean shirts, which clearly made its own way in there, as DS has no recollection of putting the clean pile back in the wash...]

baskingseals Tue 13-Nov-12 10:48:50

'dd go and brush your teeth now while the boys are in the bathroom'
grunt and click from dd
'dd go now and do your teeth please'

i now leave the room out of concern for dd's personal safety

can anybody guess the end of this story? grin

ClaimedByMe Tue 13-Nov-12 11:06:17

I am hoping when they are adults they will be grateful for us torturing them with teeth brushing, showering and eating a balanced diet!

baskingseals in our house it would end up with someones toothbrush down the toilet, we dont do teeth brushing in groups in this house too dangerous!

flakjacket Tue 13-Nov-12 11:13:12

ClainedByMe - when they are adults I'm going to go and stay with mine for extended periods of time and behave like a 12 year old wink

gimmesunshine Tue 13-Nov-12 16:51:06

Great sad, my dd is 10 and just had lovely screaming match. Now feel like crap - I really hope this gets better.

ClaimedByMe Tue 13-Nov-12 20:12:50

flakjacket sadly dd has already made it very clear she is never moving out shock

MaureenMLove Tue 13-Nov-12 20:19:37

Funny, I thought it got better as they got older. I thought that when DD was 12. Then 13, then 14, then 15, then 16, then 17..... Get the picture? grin

<<Leaves wine and biscuit and runs quick!>>

NorbertDentressangle Tue 13-Nov-12 20:27:30

Another trait that we've noticed is that DD seems to think that by prefacing everything with "Sorry but..." she can get away with anything and that it makes its all conveniently OK

eg. "Sorry but I didn't hear you"...."Sorry but I forgot"...."Sorry I thought you said I could do it"....."Sorry I didn't realise" etc

JustFabulous Tue 13-Nov-12 20:33:18

<wails> I have 2 of the buggers.

A nine year old and an eleven year old who knows everything. The nine year old actually nearly does but the oldest is a pita. No responsibility.

So far he's lost

PE Kit - once.
Mobile - once.
Bus pass - Twice.
School book - once.

madbengal Wed 14-Nov-12 03:10:01

Oh got it worse today cheeky wee madam told him I need my space you must respect me roflmao when she was being asked about wrecking my expensive body lotion

yeah when you get your own house I would have replied

baskingseals Wed 14-Nov-12 13:34:32

dd's classic this morning

'fucking shoes i can't find them'
'dd if you swear in front of me i will have to tell you off. please don't'
'i didn't say fucking i said flocking'

grin

Lancelottie Wed 14-Nov-12 14:37:39

DS is learning on that front.
'Oh fuc...goodness sake' is a frequent one.

LaDawnCP Fri 23-Nov-12 08:31:29

if only we didn't love them so damn much.....

I have a 10 year old ds. I feel all your pain.

Lavenderhoney Fri 23-Nov-12 08:57:09

I am in shock reading this as my ds is 5 and already feels he is much more informed than me and will argue anything like a small, passionate barrister. He even strides aboutsmile he has just spent 15 mins slamming doors and screeching as he was "bored" and annoying his sister so I got fed up and sent him to his room. Cue meltdown with how horrible and unreasonable I am, how he hates living here and the stupid rules, etc etc. me and dd ( who is poorly) ignore him which drives him crazy with rage. I just say calmly stop all this, go in your room and calm down. Over and over. Or ignore him.

I am reading the pre teens threads like a woman alone watching horror moviessmile

standsonshiftingsands Fri 23-Nov-12 08:59:00

Oh Celia - I have an exact carboon copy of one of those at home - a boy. Will do nothing without an argument, knows absolutely fucking everything and more besides.

Husband asked this morning if I would come and visit him in prison if he murdered him.............

standsonshiftingsands Fri 23-Nov-12 09:01:33

Oh yeah, the lost list since September

ties - 2
homework diary - 2

Answers please, on a postcard.

standsonshiftingsands Fri 23-Nov-12 11:51:29

Great thread, very reassuring. I thought I was alone on an island of petulance and 'WHAT! GAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWD'

booklava Fri 23-Nov-12 12:03:10

Can I just reassure you all my DD1 was like this at from being born 12, 13, 14 worse at 15 BUT now at 16 she is so much better most of the time .

Of course it doesn't help that DD2 is 15 her favourite saying seems to be 'where is my .......' as if I'd know.

DD3 is 13 and has many similar traits I'm sorry to say.

On the other hand DS at 17 is lovely and always has been smile

Ohhellothere Fri 23-Nov-12 15:58:44

Over here in Canada, I have the same problem...10 going upstairs alone is a big issue (except when she needs something). Evening cuddles "until she falls asleep" are a near necessity. I have to remind her that mummy has a life, too, and that respect goes both ways.

Early hormone kick-in? She's developing very early & I'm sure her period is coming any day now.

I can usually disarm stroppiness with humour, but sometimes being tough works (though I feel badly about it...husband is the disciplinarian in the house, though I can and do get tough when I've had enough).

Let's hope it's a (short) phase, yeah?

hugs

bubby64 Fri 23-Nov-12 18:28:48

Can I join the club?? My twin boys are 12 next week, and they know everything and DH and I are "stupid douchbags" who know nothing!!
I was talking with two other mums of twins in the same year (1set boy/girl, the other girl/girl) and they said they are in the same boat.
they get to this age and all turn into mini geniuses who know everything about life!

bubby64 Fri 23-Nov-12 18:38:16

I will just add that i have just shown my DH this thread to show we are not alone in our misery, and he has said he was also like this at their age, but now, at 43 he has just grown out of it!
I

McTagster Sat 24-Nov-12 10:07:33

Completely sympathise with you!
My dd is also 12. To be fair to her, she's not like it all of the time, but when she is, I feel like running screaming into the hills and never coming back.
The other day she yelled at me "God, you're impossible!"
I'm impossible?!

AdoraJingleBells Fri 30-Nov-12 13:18:05

Can I join in please? I have two 11 yr olds <wails>

Between them they do all of the above. I did stop them in their tracks recently by telling them it's not so long since I was a teenager that I can't remember how to do it. Last weekend I pointedly removed the clean clothes from DD1's linen basket and forced her to put them in the wardrobe. She throws things over the rail, natch, so I told her I'll get rid of the rail. This got a rather cocky "and how do you expect me hang things without a rail?" complete with arched eyebrowsangry. The eyebrows dropped when I said that'd be her problem, not mine.grin

Notmyidea Sat 01-Dec-12 09:27:12

younger one is just begining to find her hormones, older one is in full blown preteen hell and I'm five months pregnant. So far nobody has died and dh hasn't moved out...I don't know how long that will last!

coxy1001 Sun 02-Dec-12 23:40:03

Just read this whilst laughing through my tears. 11 and 12 year old boys, horrible!!! Rude, stroppy and generally know it all, treat me like I fell off the bottom of their shoes, whilst telling me they hate me. Also have one who wont go up the stairs without the light on, but thinks is old enough to come and go to his mates when it suits him. Thank you for making me and my husband feel like we're not alone.

mrsEbruce Sun 09-Dec-12 16:12:36

Lol at this. Our dd is 9 and hell everything you ask her is followed my massive sighs.. God sakes and alot of flouncing about. And dont even start me on the back chat its never ending!

Im apparently ancient and well wrinkly im only 27 and look younger but to her im embarresing

i find it so comical at times. I hope it passes though

EuphemiaInExcelsis Sat 22-Dec-12 12:13:31

I'm downstairs crying, DD (10) is upstairs crying, Merry Eye-Rolling Christmas, everyone. hmm

Yup my 12 year old is the same.

I accidentally spilled chilli sauce a few night back he said 'Of fucking hell what next?' shock

Me: What did you say
child: Oh sorry I just thought out loud....

Lost List

1 £50 coat angry
1 calculator
1 book
1 School book

He is also very moody right now... with comment such as:

I made you and Gran a Christmas card but sorry I have no time to finish your one...Grans will be ready.

and

Do not buy me anything for Christmas this year and I mean it this time, because you said you wouldn't last year and you did

and

My friend called me Lanky today so I punched him, do you think that was appropriate behavior Mum?

angry

thankfully he snaps out of it within 30 minutes and comes and apologises....or says 'shit the card was supposed to be surprise I have messed than one up haven't I, I am stupid fucker?'

What is with the blatant swearing? I did not do this until I was 15ish...

BluelightsAndSirens Sat 22-Dec-12 12:33:18

sad you're crying Euphemia

I have found my safe place, I nearly started my own thread without such a great title, something like "I don't like my 10 year old"

She runs and jumps everywhere, she makes me twitch. She has the answer to everything without knowing anything and she drives us all potty.

Deep breath, I feel like giving all her presents away, she is behaving like an entitled twat.

FreckledLeopard Sat 22-Dec-12 12:34:01

My nearly 12 year old DD is excelling at the loud sighs, stair-stomping, 'for Christ's sake!' and door-slamming. She has developed a highly irritating, martyred 'no' to any attempt to cajole, rationalise or persuade her to do something she doesn't want to do.

Me: 'you ARE going to Jade's party. You said you wanted to go, I have forked out for the bloody present and it's all arranged'.

DD: 'no'.

ME: (increasingly shrieky) - you are going! You wanted to go! You cannot cancel because now you've decided you don't like the girl.

DD: 'no'

Aaggh! The best thing I've learned is to refuse to engage. Ignore it. Don't rise to it easier said than done when you're being screeched at from two inches away non-stop

She went to the party and had a great time. confused

EuphemiaInExcelsis Sat 22-Dec-12 12:42:36

I'm a bit tired and emotional at the moment. Exhausted at end of term, slept badly last night, feel I don't spend enough time with DD, DH, my parents, on myself ...! Oh and MIL's on the phone daily looking for a piece of me too ...

I spend more time with other people's kids than with my own. sad

I went to speak to DD and we're going to do some painting this afternoon then curl up on the sofa and watch a Christmas movie. smile

exexpat Sat 22-Dec-12 12:51:16

DS was like this at 10-12 - knew everything, always right, always had to have the last word, constantly picking on/bickering with his younger sister etc. He is now 14 and much, much better (95% of the time). He's actually quite nice to have around, and is (remarkably) able to acknowledge that I might know a thing or two about some things.

DD recently turned 10, however; no sign of all this yet with her, but it probably won't be long.

Startail Sat 22-Dec-12 18:49:50

DD2, who will be 12 very shortly, is actually nicer to have around than she was. Less inclined to expect the world to revolve around her.

But the look I get if I suggest she does anything to help.

I'm SAHM so clearly all house hold jobs are mineangry

HECTheHallsWithRowsAndFolly Sat 22-Dec-12 18:52:19

When I was a kid, my dad had a sign. It read

"Hire a teenager, while they still know everything."

grin

Another thing I find frustration about 12 year old are the questions they have way too many of them imo!! So although mine think he knows it all when he isn't doing that he is asking questions and I don;t know the answers to everything....

LineRunner Sat 22-Dec-12 19:03:17

Oh Jesus, my two (14 and 16) had me in tears last night.

I felt like throwing the Christmas tree out of the window, packing a suitase and leaving. Or throwing myself out of the window, packing the Christmas tree and leaving.

Kind of sad, but glad it's not just me. smile [wan version]

On my own now, they are their dad's for a rare couple of days away. They have the left the house a complete shit tip.

EuphemiaInExcelsis Sat 22-Dec-12 19:15:37

Time to trawl out my favourite Mark Twain quote:

“When I was a boy of fourteen, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be twenty-one, I was astonished by how much he'd learned in seven years.”

grin

amillionyears Sat 22-Dec-12 20:26:39

I heard it as eighteen, Euphemia. Too tired to work out what that means!

Earlybird Sun 23-Dec-12 17:27:18

<........EB exhales, and hadn't even realised she was holding her breath.......>

DD is almost 12, and is just like this atm.

I planned a lovely day yesterday - surprised her with theatre tickets to a show she'd begged to see (early Christmas present), followed by dinner out...and oh yes, we bought her a jacket impulsively because we walked through a shop and it was gorgeous and hugely marked down.

I thought I might have 'banked' some good will / good behaviour, but this morning I was hit by a laundry list of complaints - things she can't do because I am too strict and old fashioned. That was followed by an equally long list of things she doesn't have because I am too frugal. It was full flow pestering, moaning and deprivation. As I struggled not to lose my temper, I found myself thinking that the lovely holiday break I'd hoped for could easily turn in to the longest couple of weeks of my life!

May I also say that it is a huge relief to know others are experiencing this too. I was ready to blame my inferior parenting skills (and dd would have agreed wholeheartedly because - doncha know - everything is my fault)! grin

betterwhenthesunshines Wed 26-Dec-12 23:16:35

Just came on this thread and, gosh, it's god to know we're not the only ones feeling like this. Thank you to the person up thread who said they weren't even sure if they liked their child at the moment. That feels a really mean thing to say, especially when they do a revert back to cuddly mode again. But the perpetual grumpiness is very difficult.

Me too. So nice to know we're not alone. I'm continually surprised there are any doors left on their hinges in this house and what she doesn't know isn't worth knowing! Big sighs, toddler tantrums, and stamping of feet. She's 11. Am looking forward to the next couple of years.....wink

betterwhenthesunshines Fri 28-Dec-12 18:13:05

I have dug "How to hug a Porcupine" out from the back of my bookshelf. It's rather American in it's approach ( I can't see myself writing 'Love Tickets') but the basic approach makes sense - this is a time where you are in it for the long haul - not a quick fix change in their behaviour. As a parent you lose the control you had with a younger child and think instead about influence, stand back more and let them sort out their own situations, even if that is frustrating.

They have a metaphor of a butterfly in a chrysalis undergoing a tricky change - try not to knock it, let it strengthen it's own wings etc etc.

Has anyone read anything useful, but a bit less American ish!

shockers Fri 28-Dec-12 22:03:46

Oh blimmin heck... I've been tring to ignore all this, pretend it isn't happening...

<stands up nervously>

My name is Shockers and I am Mum to 12 and 14 year olds.

Sometimes I want to hide them when people visit because they turn into gobby show-offs in front of anyone other than me and DH.

(Actually they're gobby show-offs in front of us too, but it's easier to quash when they haven't got an horrified audience.)

Occasionally I have to quell the desire to run as fast as I can in the opposite direction from them (this usually happens during stressful situations like shopping, country walks, meals in lovely quaint pubs, cinemas, theatres, the sitting room, kitchen, back garden....)

At least twice over the festive season, I have engaged the services of a baby teen-sitter to avoid the trauma of taking them into the houses of people I love and respect.

I do love them dearly though....

I do!

GoingGoingGoth Sun 30-Dec-12 22:39:23

All I can say is Crap; Dd is 8, and was so obnoxious this morning, we no longer have any Christams decorations up. I had had enough!

To say she's a diva is an understantment, and to top it off tonight, after we'd all made up, she then has a go at Dh for eating the sweets that she didn't like/want Christmas morning (and that was tantrum neatly avoided by my quickly handing her another present)
When this dislike was pointed out, she replied "we'll I might like a couple" confused

I'm going to end up an alcoholic, if I have to cope with this for the next 7-10 years

ummlilia Thu 03-Jan-13 20:42:10

my 8 year old drives me mad. Just me and her, so no 'buffer zone' of dad and /or siblings.Only today I said to her 'you are not my mother..'as she proceeded to to tell me everything I was doing wrong.. My only consolation is that she is back to school on Monday. Love her to bits really but god help me when hormones really start kicking in...smile

I love it that others are going through the same thing.

DD loves imparting her knowledge on us - 'Do you know that Lynx is the only word without a vowel in the english language?'

Bluebell99 Thu 03-Jan-13 21:04:09

But there are lots of words that use y as a vowel, so your dd is wrong there Madamecastafiore. For example, fly , sky, hymn, myth, by ...

FFS that's the point at 12 she comes out with these big statements that are shit and then gets shirty when we point out that she is wrong!

probablyparanoid Sat 05-Jan-13 22:17:53

My first time on this discussion topic and new to a horrendous preteen. He seems to be turning before my eyes from a lovely cuddly loving boy to a sulky, can kicking, uncommunicative pain in the arse and I seem to be in his eyes someone who has no real right to exist angry. Well - today anyway. Really refreshing to hear this is maybe a bit normal. So - horrendous day with my 11 year old today when I took his mates to cinema at my expense, went hunting for birthday pressies for him and took him into town and allowed him to hang out - all he wanted really but got no thanks whatsoever - only resentment for existing. Came back home to my 3 year old - he ran to greet me - open armed 'oh your back mummy' - such innocence that it made me cry (although he was on step 3 times this morning with tantrums for kicking and punching confused

baskingseals Tue 08-Jan-13 22:14:26

dd seriously getting on my nerves.

piano practice. it's a miracle that she is actually doing some but of course she can't do it on HER OWN, so she asks me to sit in the dining room where the piano is.

dd 'oh this piano is awful i hate it'

me 'well if you are serious about piano i'll get it tuned'

dd 'humpf'

dd tinkles through a tune.
me 'that was nice'

dd 'don't SAY ANYTHING - i didn't ask you to say anything, god all you had to do was just sit down and listen'

she then winds up both boys, hogs sofa, tv and computer, moans about her baked potato, says 'whatever' about a thousand times, refuses to put her plate in the dishwasher, whacks herself with her jump hoop thing and starts hyperventilating because of the pain and for the grand finale gets into bed wearing her school uniform - giving her yet another opportunity to say 'whatever' when i ask her to put her jimjams on.

where is the joy?

handsandknees Mon 14-Jan-13 12:39:03

This thread is great. It helps so much to know I am not alone! We don't do group teeth-brushing either.

DD is 12 next month and I KNOW it's a horrid age with all those hormones etc but OMG I cannot keep up with her mood swings at the moment.

Today alone after school (we are overseas) we have had:

Pretending she had done the running club she begged to join instead of continuing with swimming, even though she is a really talented swimmer. She had not even broken a sweat and it's over 30 here so it was pretty obvious she was lying. Getting a lot of this passive resistance lately.
Couldn't respond normally to anything I or her siblings said.
Got in a flap about maths homework, tears etc, worried about getting into trouble from teacher. Much drama.
DH tried to help, more shouting from DD then she declared she didn't care if the homework was done or not.
More crying and "it's all so unfair, all I do is homework after school". Then "I don't have anyone to talk to, no-one cares."
Started to feel sorry for her/guilty that I should talk to her more, then next minute she is laughing at something on tv and saying "sorry for being grumpy, I was just a bit stressed."

Good grief. She says she wants to go to boarding school though!

Myliferocks Mon 14-Jan-13 12:52:26

I have DD's who are 16, 12 and 10 and DS's who are 9 and 8.
OH and myself are considering ways in which we could move into the shed and leave them all to it!

TheFallenNinja Mon 14-Jan-13 12:58:06

Don't engage in the argument. Your the gaffer, end of.

FedupofTurkey Sun 20-Jan-13 22:49:41

Marking my place for support purposes. Love the title!

megglevache Sun 20-Jan-13 22:52:15

On the positive side ...one of the greatest thread titles ever...

chicaguapa Sun 20-Jan-13 23:02:28

Easier said than done, I know, but I give DD(11) loads of cuddles after I was advised to do that on another thread. Whilst it's the last thing I want to do while she's screaming at me that I'M NOT LISTENING TO HER but I've found it really calms her down. I haven't got to the point yet when she'd rather die than have a cuddle though. hmm Not sure what I'll do then.

timetosmile Wed 23-Jan-13 12:56:19

so Op...it's just you then, none of the rest of us ever feel like you grin

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