When will my child be able to start pre school?

(35 Posts)
TKKW Fri 21-Feb-14 19:07:35

My child is 3 in second week of April and in Staffordshire, the Summer term begins on 28th April.

I thought we could start it Summer term (ie the term after they turn 3) but nursery said it would be september.

Desperate for the 15 hours "free".

Can anyone shed any light?

Thanks.
T

addictedtosugar Fri 21-Feb-14 19:11:51

Round here the cutoffs are 1 Sept, 1 Jan and 1 April. To remove the early / later Easter holidays issue.

Sorry, sounds like that might be the case in Staffs also.

Although under subscribed schools seem to take as long as they have turned 3 and they have the space.

dannydyerismydad Fri 21-Feb-14 19:17:32

Most of the preschools round my way have only a September intake now also. This is because spaces only become available as the older cohort move onto school. Occasionally children are invited to start outside this time, but only when spaces are available due to families moving away.

givemeaclue Fri 21-Feb-14 19:20:55

Private nurseries may have room in the summer term and you could swap to school nursery in September

Smartiepants79 Fri 21-Feb-14 19:20:58

May depend on how much room they have but also may have cut off dates. I understood it was the term after they turn 3 but as your DC is 3 during the holidays she possibly just misses out. Might be to do with paperwork and applying for grant money.

Clayhead Fri 21-Feb-14 19:24:02

They are right about the fifteen hours, you can't access it until September, it's the term after your child turns three, you are unlucky to just miss the cut off!

At the pre-school my dc went to you would still be able to start, space permitting, but would have to pay yourself this term.

OddBoots Fri 21-Feb-14 19:29:40

Sorry, as others have said it is 1 September, 1 January, 1 April that are the cut off dates for funding the term after the 3rd birthday. My dd had a 7th April birthday so I feel your pain.

TKKW Fri 21-Feb-14 19:38:57

Hi, thanks for super quick replies.

Am I being thick? Isnt the summer term the term after she turns 3?

She is currently at a private nursery 3x day per week which is not full capacity for nursery.

Ah well, new baby due in May and was hopeful we might get this "free"!

does the private nursery not offer the free nursery provision at all? Some do and will reduce your payments accordingly.

TKKW Fri 21-Feb-14 19:43:36

Yes, it does offer the free nursery thing but they say not until september 2014.

there will be a cut off date for when you would get the free hours i.e. she would have to turn 3 before 1 April to get funding from the Summer term (so she just misses it). She therefore needs to wait until the next intake which seems to be September in your area

TKKW Fri 21-Feb-14 19:44:33

oldboots, so if child born on 1st April, they can go summer term?

NickNacks Fri 21-Feb-14 19:45:05

No she turns 3 during the summer term and so is funded from the next term which is September.

addictedtosugar Fri 21-Feb-14 19:45:15

Yes, the summer term is the term after your daughter turns 3 this year.
To make it logistically easier, many places have said the summer terms always starts 1 April, so you are too late - and you'll have to wait til Sept (2017) for your may baby also.

What I don't understand is if the summer babies are behind when they start school, why do the older babies get 5 terms of preschool, and the youngest only 3 terms. Surely that is going to widen any gap between the nearly 5's and just 4's when reception starts???

NickNacks Fri 21-Feb-14 19:46:26

No 31st march is the last date. 1st April will be September too.

I feel for you! My dd is first couple of day in September so we had to wait until jan to be funded, so I paid for the first term.

insancerre Fri 21-Feb-14 19:47:20

a child needs to be 3 before 1st April to claim the free hours
op, your did is not eligible till sep

TKKW Fri 21-Feb-14 19:50:58

She turns 3 before the summer term, on 13th April and summer term starts 28th April.
Im so confused!

insancerre Fri 21-Feb-14 19:55:08

there are cut
off points
1st Jan
1st Apr
1st sep
if a child is 3 before these dates they can claim the funding
so the funding can be claimed for the term after they are 3

if her birthday is 13th April then she has not turned 3 before 1st April, has she?? (and that is the cut off date for funding from the summer term). It's not difficult to understand.

NickNacks Fri 21-Feb-14 19:58:10

It's really not that hard to understand!!

Me thinks you're deliberating misunderstanding now!!

TKKW Fri 21-Feb-14 20:02:29

Really, NickNacks! Im querying it, that's all. I read you were offered nursery space "the term after your child turns 3" as my child being able start in May as they turn 3 in the holiday between terms and the birthday is not in a half term holiday.

OddBoots Fri 21-Feb-14 20:04:11

What you read was too simplistic, they can't base it on the holidays as they move about, the cut off for the summer term is and has always been 1st April.

TKKW Fri 21-Feb-14 20:05:11

Thanks for your help everyone. I have no more questions.

HSMMaCM Sun 23-Feb-14 09:44:45

Agree. Summer term starts 1st April, regardless of when the children are physically in the building.

LouiseSmith Tue 25-Feb-14 11:46:43

The term after there 3rd birthday is what it is in kent smile

MrsMarigold Thu 27-Feb-14 18:56:14

Ok I'm also confused my DD's birthday falls on 14 September 2012 so when does she count as 3+ and what year will she start reception?

OP I think it was a valid question-I had no idea there were cut offs! DD will be 3 mid-September this year so I assumed she'd get the free hours from Jan 2015-am dismayed it won't be till the Easter term!

madamginger Thu 27-Feb-14 19:11:50

Antoinette if her birthday is in September her funded hours will start in January.

madamginger Thu 27-Feb-14 19:13:55

Mrsmarigold your hours will start in Jan 2015 and she will start school in sept 2017 so she will start school just before her 5th birthday

MrsMarigold, I think your dd would get her free hours from the January after she turns 3 (January 2016?). She would start school August 2017 just before she is 5.

Antoinette, your dd will be funded from the January if she is 3 in the September before.

she wouldnt be funded from Jan 2015 as she would still only be 2years old

Three year olds will be able to start a free nursery place in the September, January or April following their third birthday.

Your child's birthday must be before:

31 March will be eligible for free nursery education from the Summer Term (April)

31 August will be eligible for free nursery education from the Autumn Term (September)

31 December will be eligible for free nursery education from the Spring term (January)

These are the cut off dates. If your child's birthday is for example on the 1st or 2nd January and the term starts on the 5th January I am afraid their funding will not start until the Summer Term after Easter because they have passed the cut off date of 31st December.

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ie. if the 3rd birthday is from 1st Jan to 31st March then they would get funding from April

if the 3rd birthday is from 1st April to 31st August then funding is from September

if the 3rd birthday is from 1st September to 31st December then funding is from January

Oh phew! Thanks all.

my ds just makes the cut off (will be 3 on 30th march) but the nursery is full and even the private option is full so we will have to wait until Sept anyway. most of my friends are in the same position. I am gutted as just had dc2 and had been counting down to April and now have to add another 4/5 months to my wait sad

MrsMarigold Fri 28-Feb-14 09:46:55

Thanks for clarifying, although I've lived here ages some days I still feel very foreign.

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