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MW apt 16+5 couldn't find heartbeat with Doppler...

(41 Posts)
Only1scoop Mon 09-Dec-13 18:00:24

Also I've only really felt the very odd tiny bubble like sensation, nothing I can say is definately movement. Still have horrendous nausea/sickness though all the taste thing also. It's my second baby. Mw has got me in for scan tmrw. Feel a sleepless night. Has anyone any experience of this?
Thank you

HomeHypno Mon 09-Dec-13 18:21:39

Maybe your midwife didn't listen in the right place? The baby is really small at 16 weeks and the heartbeat is often found just above your pubic bone rather on top of the bump. Pregnancy symptoms and feeling a flutter sound reassuring. Hope your scan turns out ok x

Tomkat79 Mon 09-Dec-13 19:02:01

Try not to stress. My MW wasn't very confident about finding a heartbeat at 18 weeks and spent ages looking. The policy here is not to scan if no beat is found so I was praying she would! She eventually found one a lot higher than expected, almost at my belly button. It's likely that your baby lying wrong way.
Try to rest tonight and not freak out, I appreciate easier said than done. Maybe lo will give you a re-assuring flutter xx

Littlebean13 Mon 09-Dec-13 19:04:10

Try not to worry, it took my midwife quite a while to find my babies hb at my 16week app. Maybe your little one is just in a funny position. I remember reading on here that midwifes sometimes refuse to listen for hb at 16 week app because it's not unusual for them not to be able to find it and it causes mums to be a lot of unnecessary stress. It's a good sign that you've still got pregnancy symptoms. Wishing you luck for tomorrow, as hard as it sounds try not to worry too much xx

PastaBeeandCheese Mon 09-Dec-13 19:08:09

Hope it goes well tomorrow but for what it is worth I'm sure guidelines say not to try and listen for the heartbeat before about 20 weeks as it is so hard to find and causes so much distress to parents when it can't be found.

Indith Mon 09-Dec-13 19:08:18

plenty of trusts have a policy not to even listen in until after 20 weeks because the hb is so hard to get at 16 weeks and trying to find it and failing causes so much stress for mothers.

Try not to worry. It is really days for both hb and movements. All the best for your scan tomorrow. I hope you get some reassurance from it.

PastaBeeandCheese Mon 09-Dec-13 19:08:49

X post!

17leftfeet Mon 09-Dec-13 19:09:14

I didn't get more than flutters/bubbles with either of mine until 18 weeks

Try to get some sleep tonight and fingers crossed for your scan

Confitdecanard Mon 09-Dec-13 19:15:15

My midwife couldn't find a heartbeat at 16 weeks either. She said it happens sometimes and that was that. No scan until 20 weeks when baby was fine. Fingers crossed everything is ok for you too.

thecakeisalie Mon 09-Dec-13 19:24:49

I had the same experience of midwife not being able to find the heartbeat at 16 weeks. I then had my scan at 20 weeks and baby was fine. Midwife appt at 20, 22 and 24 weeks and she found the heartbeat quite quickly. Good luck for tomorrow.

lilyaldrin Mon 09-Dec-13 19:26:49

Midwives aren't really supposed to try to find a heartbeat at 16 weeks anymore for just this reason - it isn't easy to find and causes unnecessary worry.

Only1scoop Mon 09-Dec-13 19:42:23

Thanks so much for all the shared experiences and info....it has certainly made me feel so much more positive. I'm kind of thinking I possibly wouldn't still have such strong symptoms if the worst had happened. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Thanks again everyone x

PenguinsDontEatPancakes Mon 09-Dec-13 19:46:47

I agree with others, this is precisely why they weren't allowed to do it at 16 weeks (even if asked to by the mother) in my old area (don't know about this one as I didn't have an apt at that stage for various reasons).

Also, 16 weeks is early for movements. I have had an anterior placenta with DD2 and this pregnancy and both times it has taken until 20 weeks to feel movement. I'm nearly 21 and it's only in the last few days it has been definite.

Hope all goes well tomorrow.

Mildpanic Mon 09-Dec-13 19:58:57

Please try not to worry. I had this with my dd at 16 weeks and I had been in a minor car crash the day before so was beside myself.
I remember with my ds I went to the midwife at 19 weeks as just didn't feel pregnant and was sure something was wrong.
It is a really funny time, pregnant but nothing concrete yet. You will be fine, keep with it.

Featherbag Mon 09-Dec-13 20:02:11

They won't listen for hb here before 20w for exactly this reason - and with my DS2 I didn't get definite movement until 21w!

BettyMacdonald Mon 09-Dec-13 20:07:01

16 weeks is mega early to be listening for a heart beat! I've got 3 DCs and no one ever tried to listen that early. I also didn't feel any of them move until 18 - 20 weeks. This may have been down to the position of the placenta or possibly due to my not very svelte figure.... I hope you get some sleep. Please let us know how you get on grin

Notfastmainlyfurious Mon 09-Dec-13 20:12:46

Echoing all of the above, mw here won't even attempt to find a heartbeat at the 16 week (and I desperately wanted her to) also only felt the bubbles at about 17 weeks so if you're feeling that now you're going well. Try not to worry.

Irishmammybread Mon 09-Dec-13 20:18:30

Do you know what position your placenta is?
I had a private scan just before 16 weeks (I've had a series of miscarriages and it felt too long to wait from my 12 week scan to my 20 week one!). The sonographer mentioned my placenta is anterior,so it cushions the front of my abdomen making it more difficult to feel baby's movements. Anything I do feel so far has tended to be quite low down, I presume below the placenta.
I was able to mention this to the midwife at my 16 week appointment and though she did eventually find a heartbeat she struggled , the location of placenta making it difficult.
I have an angel sounds doppler but I scared myself one evening not being able to find a heart beat (when the scan subsequently confirmed everything was fine) so I've put it away!
I'm sure everthing will be fine for you, but I know how hard it is not to worry x

Only1scoop Mon 09-Dec-13 20:26:44

Irishmammy....I had a private scan/nuchal at 12+6 and after reading your reply I've just had another look through the paperwork.
Next to placenta it says "posterior low"
I was also alarmed when they scanned me to to see a fibroid. On paperwork it says this is on anterior wall and gives measurements.

Maybe the above could attribute and thanks so much for your info x

wifey6 Mon 09-Dec-13 21:51:25

I am sure all is well & baby is, as many have said, low down & as still very small, hiding very well.
Our local MW unit do check heartbeat at routine 16 week check-up, however, my friend told me her MW refused to do theirs til 20+ weeks as if heartbeat wasn't detected it would cause unnecessary anxiety.

Only1scoop Tue 10-Dec-13 13:41:32

Thanks for support on this thread ladies. Just to confirm it wasn't good news our baby stopped growing around 16 wks. I find MNers very knowledgable and supportive during the good and indeed bad so thanks again x

Spaghettinetti Tue 10-Dec-13 13:45:43

My midwife didn't even bother at 16 weeks! She said it was too early and she didn't want to worry me if she couldn't find one!

Spaghettinetti Tue 10-Dec-13 13:47:06

Oh bugger. I didn't see your last post only1. I'm so sorry :-( Big hugs. I'm so sorry to hear it was bad news. Xx

Pinkbell123 Tue 10-Dec-13 13:47:13

Scoop I'm so sorry to hear that. Take care of yourselves, thinking of youthanks

SaucyJack Tue 10-Dec-13 13:57:12

So very very sorry. Take care xxx

Angloamerican Tue 10-Dec-13 13:57:34

I'm so sorry. Take good care of yourself.

Featherbag Tue 10-Dec-13 13:58:56

I'm so sorry, what terrible news - look after yourself xx

PenguinsDontEatPancakes Tue 10-Dec-13 14:01:37

So sorry to hear that Scoop. xx

EeyoreIsh Tue 10-Dec-13 14:02:17

Sorry to hear that, take care of yourself thanks

BettyMacdonald Tue 10-Dec-13 14:34:04

Oh I'm so so sorry only1. That is such sad news. Big fat unMN hugs to you and xx

Elastigrrrl Tue 10-Dec-13 15:47:37

only I'm really sorry to hear that. I hope you and the DP are coping.

PastaBeeandCheese Tue 10-Dec-13 15:53:06

I'm so sorry. That is very sad news. Take care of yourself.

Indith Tue 10-Dec-13 15:55:31

Sorry for your loss x

Peacenquiet2 Tue 10-Dec-13 16:02:07

Only, such sad news for you. I followed your thread yesterday with hope in my heart for you, sorry it wasnt a good outcome. Hugs x

Littlebean13 Tue 10-Dec-13 17:13:38

I am so so sorry for your loss. Sending big hugs. Stay strong. Xxx

wifey6 Tue 10-Dec-13 17:14:36

Only1, I am so incredibly sorry for your devastating loss. I hope you have good RL support to help you through this time x no words feel enough.

Writerwannabe83 Tue 10-Dec-13 17:55:52

I'm so sorry to read this news - you must be heartbroken. I feel like nothing I say will be good enough to convey how sad I am for you. I hope you have lots of loving family around you x x

Rockchick1984 Tue 10-Dec-13 18:49:27

I'm so sorry Only1 thanks If you haven't found your way there yet, the miscarriage/pregnancy loss topic (in body and soul section of mn) was amazingly helpful for me earlier this year when I lost a baby at 12 weeks. Stay strong thanks

CrispyFB Tue 10-Dec-13 19:05:46

I'm so sorry. Losing a baby at any time is horrible anyway, but losing one after you're supposed to be "safe" following a good 12 week scan is utterly heartbreaking. Be very kind and gentle with yourself, there was nothing you could have done differently and you were extremely unlucky thanks

Strongecoffeeismydrug Tue 10-Dec-13 19:11:27

Sorry for your losshmm.
Look after yourself.

Irishmammybread Tue 10-Dec-13 19:20:00

So sorry Only1 xxx

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