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PG after MC: Keeping the Posifrickingtivity going into 2014!!

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Chocolateteabag Wed 04-Dec-13 07:34:45

Oops I managed to finish the last thread - so here we go!

Janie - fingers crossed

shellsocks Wed 04-Dec-13 09:00:34

Can't wait to hear your baby news janie good luck smile

GardenWorm Wed 04-Dec-13 09:08:39

Hope Janie can find us (not mid labour obviously - that would be one mean feat!)

JanieLovesLuckySocks Wed 04-Dec-13 09:34:27

Hello! Still here! Thanks for the new thread!

Rang mw again and the mlu is full at the minute hmmhmmhmm , she said the whole maternity ward is full too! going to try to ride it out as long as poss at home. Contractions are only nice when they fade away!

We're trying to put our Xmas tree up to keep us busy but I keep throwing myself over my bouncy ball when I get a contraction so I'm not much use oops. Dh better do the lights right! Haha!

JanieLovesLuckySocks Wed 04-Dec-13 09:35:03

And thank you all for the lucky vibes xxxx

GuffSmuggler Wed 04-Dec-13 10:30:23

Woo hoo, go janie!!!! Cheesy 80s films were good I found!! Fingers crossed lots of women pop so you can go in when you need to x

kjh5 Wed 04-Dec-13 10:55:55

Phew! I found you! Felt like I'd been left mid contraction after reading Janie's exciting news and not being able to post! wink

So: YAY Janie!!!! Hope you don't have to worry too much about getting to the hospital and your little bubba arrives soon smile

I'm currently having sympathy Braxton Hicks but am not panicking this time around after seeing a wonderful GP yesterday who referred me to a physio to deal with the back pain and told me I was unlucky enough to be getting BH this early and ones that we're painful boot. But we listened to the bubba's heartbeat and she had a good feel around and told me it all looks "perfect" and that I'm doing a great job and I'm not neurotic just a first time mum. I wanted to hug her!

BumpKitty Wed 04-Dec-13 10:58:06

Good luck janie I'm so excited for you! And labour is the only thing that would make me consider letting DH do the Christmas lights grin can't wait to hear your news xx

WhatWillSantaBring Wed 04-Dec-13 11:00:42

Go janie, go janie, Go * janie*.

Hopefully we'll have a nice thread baby to start this thread! Sorry to hear about the MLU being full - all these selfish women having babies at the same time. Shame on them. grin

2 weeks left at work and I have sooooooooooooooooo much to do. Eeek!

Bakingtins Wed 04-Dec-13 11:02:57

Marking place for the live birth thread! Go janie

Tomkat79 Wed 04-Dec-13 11:25:36

Good luck janie all very exciting! Does the MW actually mean it's full full or just not enough staff to manage anymore? Our hospital delivery suite bizarrely has 37 rooms..,but only about 6-8 women in and it's 'full' x

Pixielady83 Wed 04-Dec-13 11:45:11

oh janie so flipping excited for you! <pompoms> sounds like you're managing contractions marvellously hope the hypno Is helping (if it helps you I've decided to bite the bullet and buy the cd grin ) love that your getting Christmas tree up in the meantime!

kjh how nice to see a sympathetic gp really glad you got some reassurance smile are bh at all stress related? I get mine when I'm rushing around (which is less now that I can only shuffle walk) and when I'm in stressy meetings at work, just wondered if yours were related and if so if it was stress you could avoid/minimize? sounds hard work for you sad

kjh5 Wed 04-Dec-13 12:08:52

Pixie my BH definitely can be stress related, I get them if things are getting too hectic at work but have so gotten them after maybe exerting myself too much (running for a train) or randomly in the middle of the night when I'm asleep. Panicking or getting upset definitely makes them worse! At least now I know they're nothing to worry about. GP said to just rest and breathe through them and they'll go away!

Pixielady83 Wed 04-Dec-13 12:16:25

I got my first ones after running for the train at 20wks too! probably baby thinking 'how rude' at being jiggled and rush of adrenaline grin I only really had them from 35wks last time so was really shocked. At least it's all good practice!

GardenWorm Wed 04-Dec-13 12:28:28

Ooh Janie you'll never be able to look at a Christmas tree in the same way again grin. Come on awesome girly I want to hear your news xxx

Lieslvontrapp Wed 04-Dec-13 12:40:36

Sorry it's late but big congrats to garden on the arrival of your little boy! And what a fab name!

Welcome to blue & ickle! Congrats on your bfps!

nerdy glad to hear everything was ok at yesterday's scan.

And last but not least - good luck janie! Sounds like your coping well if you can manage the Christmas tree too. Hope some space frees up at the Mlu for you soon.

Lieslvontrapp Wed 04-Dec-13 12:55:16

Stats 4 December- today we are pregnant

Janielovesluckysocks: 1MC, 0DC, EDD 23rd Nov
Vixjane: 2 MC, EDD 24 Nov
Vocalista86: 1 MMC, EDD 30 November
ChocolateCremeEggbag: 1DS, 1MC, EDD 16 Dec
DIYandEatCake: 1dd, 1mc, EDD ?16 dec
Booty: 1chemical EDD 19 Dec
Blackholes: 2 MC, 2 DC, EDD 25 December
WillSantaComeAgain: 1DC, 2MMC, EDD 29Dec
pumpkinsweetie mc1, EDD 03 Jan
Christinedaae - 1DD, 1MC, EDD 25th Jan
Lieslvontrapp: 1MMC, 0DC, EDD 10 Feb
TotalShock 0DC, 1MMC, EDD 1 March
Pixielady83 1DD, 1MMC, EDD 2 March
GuffSmuggler: 1DS, 1MCC, EDD 4 March
Rock: 1DS, 1MMC, EDD 4 March
Swangirl:1DD,2DS,1MC EDD 8 March 2014
Motorcyclemama: 1MMC, EDD 17 March
SaggyOldClothPussCat: 1MC, 1DD, 1DS, EDD 13 March
Omri: 1DS, 1MMS, EDD 24 March
Fod27: 1DD 1DS 1MMC EDD 26th March 2014
RainbowConnections: 1DS, 2MC, EDD 1 April
Birdsdoit: 1MMC, 0DC, EDD 6 April
Blackberryand Nettle: 1MMC, EDD 10th April
Katatonic: 1MMC, 0DC, EDD 11 April
TeaAndANatter: DS, DD, 1MMC, 18th April
Honey786: 0DC, 1MMC ,EDD 19th April
Kjh5: 0DC, 1MC, EDD 21 April 2014
PoppySeedBun: 0DC, 1 MMC, EDD 22 April 2014
ImpatientlyWaiting: 0DC, 1MC, EDD 1 May 2014
MarthasHarbour: 1DS, 2MCs, EDD 7 May 2014
Tomkat: EDD 9 May 2014
Polka: 0DC 1mmc 2mc EDD 9th May
CbeebiesIsMyLife: 2DD's 6MC EDD 15th May
MissMedusa: 0DC, 2MC, EDD 20th May 2014
Emki; 1 DD, 2MC, EDD 23rd May 2014
Penguinita: 0 DC, 1 MMC, EDD 27th May 2014
Bakingtins: EDD 6th June
PGchimp: 0DC, 1 MC, EDD 9th June 2014
MeDoingMyThing: 2 DS, 1MC, EDD 14th June 2014

New arrivals:

Jessw25 Baby Oliver born 9 July 2013 5lb 11oz
GaryBuseysTeeth Baby Alexander born 30 July 2013 7lb 4oz
Andadietcoke twin girls born 29 August Charlotte 5lb 5oz & Sophie 7lb 13oz
Pentagon baby Elsie born 23 October 7lb 5oz
Bodicea baby James born 3 November 8lb
Ibelieveinpink baby Imogen born 14 November 7lb 4oz
BumpKitty baby Matilda born 18 Nov 8lb 2oz
Luckysocks13 baby Charlotte born 24 Nov 8lb
Jmf294 baby Alexander James born 25 Nov 7lb 4oz
Shellsocks baby Noah Stephen born 27 Nov 9lb 3.5oz
Gardenworm baby Wolfie born 1 December

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Wed 04-Dec-13 12:59:00

Thank God I found you all! <<phew>>
GO JANIE! grin You can do it!

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Wed 04-Dec-13 12:59:58

P.S., this time tomorrow, you wont give a damn about the fairy lights!
grin Its so EXCITING! grin

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Wed 04-Dec-13 13:06:30

Oh, and just incase anyone is interested, wink Ive just got back from the doctors. I officially have Intertrigo. AKA crusty sweaty crevice disease! grin
Got some Caneseten. I might let DP have the honour of applying it, as he is so entranced with my giant PG breasts! grin

WhatWillSantaBring Wed 04-Dec-13 13:26:55

Oh saggy, you old romantic. You do know the way to a man's heart grin

Pixielady83 Wed 04-Dec-13 13:30:15

saggy that actually made me lol grin

icklemssunshine Wed 04-Dec-13 13:35:30

Very excited about the impending births!

Got a GP appointment to "book in" my pg so he can then refer me to MW. Not sure if I'm tempting fate. Went through the first MW appointment back in January. Don't even want to see that MW. She was hopeless when I was miscarrying, get advice was call GP. Then over the summer I has a call from a HV asking if she could come & see me and discuss how I was coping with my pg at 35 weeks! MW had passed on my details even though she knew I had MCed and hadn't seen her since initial visit! Would I be unreasonable to ask to see a different MW?

Trying to keep calm but fret everyday. Even found a HGC calculator this morning on-line. Damn Google!!

icklemssunshine Wed 04-Dec-13 13:36:11

*her not get

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Wed 04-Dec-13 13:54:28

Ickle it isn't unreasonable at all. Definitely ask for someone else if you end up with her again.

saggygrin that made me chuckle!

Janie Goodluck, sending you good vibessmile

Polka2 Wed 04-Dec-13 14:48:18

Marking my place - crikey you ladies are good at chattering!!!

Go Janie go - everyone has fingers and toes crossed for you!

Hope everyone else is well great to hear of so many new BFP's - hand holding ahoy to you all! grin

I'm off to meet anesthetist this arvo (only 18wks) just incase I need an emergency c section as apparently I'm hard to intubate (!???) another weirdness of my body! Oh, and done something bonkers and bought a lovely buggy on ebay - I know its super early but it was exactly what I was looking for and was in great nick and a few miles down the road too! Its boxed up and hidden in our shed!

Pixielady83 Wed 04-Dec-13 15:26:20

Wow polka that sounds a bit scary, how do they know that? glad they're preparing for it though. What buggy did you get?

In bed with the lurgy today sad I feel bad as this is the second week running I've had time off work. Still feel shocking and high temp and chesty cough so think I'll be off tomorrow as well. Hate phoning in ill.

BlackholesAndRevelations Wed 04-Dec-13 15:40:10

Lol chocolate I've been here since march I think! grin I'm totally rubbish at keeping in touch though as thread moves so quickly and I mainly read but don't always have the chance to post. Sorry!

I don't know how I'm going to keep going for 3 weeks or more!! My poor kids are watching so much tv!

Hope you're ok janie, it's my worst nightmare to not be allowed in as they're too busy so I hope you're still coping brilliantly and they let you in soon xxx

BlackholesAndRevelations Wed 04-Dec-13 15:40:57

Pixie- dont feel guilty about being ill! Look after yourself xx

Pixielady83 Wed 04-Dec-13 15:43:22

Thanks blackholes I have had so much lemon and honey today it's ridiculous, DH is working from home and just brings in mug after mug! Re: too much telly, at least there is good Christmassy telly coming up. Are they too old for Peppa Christmas DVD specials?! We got a 3 DVD set last year and I actually quite enjoyed it blush

GuffSmuggler Wed 04-Dec-13 15:47:24

oooo saggy you sexy lady grin Reminds me of DH cutting my toenails when I finally couldn't reach them at the end of last PG, oh the glamour of pregnancy!!!

Pentagon Wed 04-Dec-13 15:50:25

aaaah Janie, good luck my lovely! So excited for you, I can't wait to hear your news!

saggy you crack me up!!

NerdyBird Wed 04-Dec-13 17:31:32

Had a drop more bleeding today. Literally just one drop of browny stuff. Am steadfastly not panicking. I will keep an eye on it tonight and tomorrow. The EPU won't scan me for a week anyway and I'm not going to a&e for one drop!
Somehow I seem to have dropped from panic stations to 'what will be will be' in the space of a day! Actually got some work done today for the first time in weeks! Couldn't focus before. Am still wondering about a private scan just before xmas, provided I'm not back at EPU that is!

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Wed 04-Dec-13 17:57:53

grin grin I aim to please! grin grin
Although that's nothing, DP is going to have to do some public topiary at some point soon, before someone gets lost in there! confused

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Wed 04-Dec-13 17:58:52

I know what you mean Nerdy, I suddenly went all fatalistic. Mad isn't it! smile

ChristineDaae Wed 04-Dec-13 18:47:54

Good luck Janie!!!
No more of the dodgy brown discharge here so am hoping that's done with. Had a PGP support group today. Thinking about seeing if I can get signed off for my last 2 weeks as to starting to really hurt sad
Hi to any newbies iv missed grin

pgchimp Wed 04-Dec-13 19:01:29

best if luck Janie, really hope they have room for you at the inn (and that the Christmas lights meet expectations!).
I told my family yesterday and it actually felt a bit wierd like I was telling them we had been dtd. they were all delighted, I haven't seen my mum so excited for ages!smile

BirdsDoIt Wed 04-Dec-13 19:04:42

Oooh oooh go janie! So excited for you! And v impressed at your festive multi tasking while in labour!

LuckySocks13 Wed 04-Dec-13 19:10:49

Hi everyone. FantStic to see so many lovely ladies joining the thread with BFP smile wishing everyone healthy pregnancies. With regards to bleeding, I had many episodes all the way through for no a parang reason and now have a healthy baby 10 days old. The days will pass faster as time goes on. Focus on one day at a time.

Checking in for news on Janie. All is quiet so I'm thinking that there may be action stations! Very exciting smile

Chocolateteabag Wed 04-Dec-13 20:47:20

Oops sorry Blackholes blush - my brain is going truly sieve like. I should have just looked at the stats list. Of course you've been on here for aaaaggees

christine - weirdly my SPD/PGP has got loads better over the last 3-4 weeks. I now get cracking back ache if I do too much but can at least walk/waddle without too much fanjo agony.

So I now have bag packed and everything bought, will that jinx me to be late?

ChristineDaae Wed 04-Dec-13 20:49:12

How far on are you chocolate? Mine has been getting steadily worse.
Looks like its happening for Janie finally smile

Tomkat79 Wed 04-Dec-13 20:55:11

Just in bed with my bounty pack ovaltine freebie. My god I feel like an old woman brew

Polka2 Wed 04-Dec-13 20:56:11

Pixie poor you I'm the same about phoning in sick so eating 1000mg vit c like they're going out of fashion as the lurgy's going around the office!

I got a mountain urban jungle buggy with cot too, as we live on a farm so needed something sturdy for off road ing!

Met anaesthetist (my last GA they mentioned it was hard) he said to consider epidural as might be easier than being knocked out?! Went to delivery suite to meet him and it made me realise the reality of what's happening (I've not dared to think it before!)

TeaAndANatter Wed 04-Dec-13 21:05:47

Very good saggy! Made me smirk for ages.

Good luck Janie

Pixielady83 Wed 04-Dec-13 21:15:58

ooh mountain buggy sounds good polka! should be pretty sturdy. I didn't realise we could have vit c, will get some down me next time I struggle up!

christine what did they cover in your pgp support group? <curious> chocolate that's good yours has got better - mine got bit better at the end last time, they thought it was because DD was engaged therefore stabilising pelvis although as she was firmly feet down I'm not sure what would have engaged! maybe her bottom?!

tomkat I really want ovaltine now!

Hope janie is doing ok fsmile

Pixielady83 Wed 04-Dec-13 21:18:35

forgot to say, nerdy I am well impressed with your calmness. Go girl! I'm sure there's nothing to worry about and I think they had some possible explanations for the bleeding didn't they. Hope the zen-state stays with you xx

Polka2 Wed 04-Dec-13 21:30:13

God pixie I hope/think its ok as vit c just gets peed out if you don't use it?! I hope it's ok.

Nerdy you're being very brave and a tincy drop sounds finewink

Penguinita Wed 04-Dec-13 21:33:09

Good luck janie! Maybe baby janie is here by now? Lol at you trying to put the Xmas tree up whilst in labour, that will be something to tell your little one every year when you get the decorations out! grin

Just found out that I could get made redundant whilst on maternity leave. I thought I was protected legally but apparently not, as they will offer me a job at the other end of the country and if I choose not to take it then that is my problem apparently. After 13 years with the company I could suddenly only have less than 100 days left. Rather worried and stressed now. sad

Chocolateteabag Wed 04-Dec-13 22:43:39

christine - I'm 38+2 - getting closer to the top of the list!
I thought my SPD was helped by me really consciously not trying to walk too far or do too much. But Pixie your point about engaged head also makes sense. He was transverse at 28 weeks, head down at 32 and that was when everything started to get a lot better.
Obviously I then try to do too much and get sore back in a matter of minutes.

Penguin that is awful! I would really advise you speak to an employment solicitor if you can manage it or look on the employment forum here to ensure you are getting the correct/deal from them. It's amazing how many companies don't do things "by the book". Like you need that stress right now though!

JanieLovesLuckySocks Wed 04-Dec-13 23:58:42

Hello ladies! Just a quick message to let you know that after going 11 days overdue, I had a beautiful, hairy, scrummy little baby boy at 6.30 this evening! He was 7lb5oz and we've called him Leo Thomas smilesmile I'm madly in love and still in total shock! Will report back properly very soon xxxxx

kjh5 Thu 05-Dec-13 00:03:27

Oh janie how wonderful!!! Congratulations!!! And what a gorgeous name! Hope you are enjoying every minute of those newborn cuddles xx

Penguinita Thu 05-Dec-13 00:08:41

Thanks for the advice chocolate, I've posted on the redundancy forum. I can't sleep and I feel physically sick from worry, I'm sure this isn't good for little Pingu.

Penguinita Thu 05-Dec-13 00:10:03

Ooh cross post, fabulous news janie! That has cheered me up no end! grin

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Thu 05-Dec-13 00:13:12

Fantastic news * Janie*. smile smile smile
I am SO jealous! envy envy envy
march is ages away!

LuckySocks13 Thu 05-Dec-13 01:14:58

Big congratulations Janie my due date buddy smile

GardenWorm Thu 05-Dec-13 03:08:32

Oh Janie, Janie, JANIE! and baby Leo (lovely name smile I am sooo happy for you and that seems like a quick labour! you should market the tree decoration assisted labour Gorgeous name. I hope you are managing some sleep and not just gazing at your gorgeous boy. Congratulations to you and your family xxx

Congratulations on your new little boy janie, love his name toosmilesmilesmilethanksthanks

icklemssunshine Thu 05-Dec-13 06:50:57

Congratulations! What lovely news to wake up to!

Bakingtins Thu 05-Dec-13 07:34:54

Congratulations Janie I'm sure Leo was worth the wait. flowers

BlackholesAndRevelations Thu 05-Dec-13 07:40:20

Yaaay, congrats janie!! Fab news! Hope you're all well grin flowers xxx

Tomkat79 Thu 05-Dec-13 08:00:58

Nice one janie! I bet he's totally scrummy! Love the name. Hope your DH came through in the end wink xx

Polka2 Thu 05-Dec-13 08:04:34

Congrats janie fab news I'm sure he's delicious and lovely name too! Enjoy gringringrinwink

pgchimp Thu 05-Dec-13 08:14:38

Congrats Janie, what lovely commute reading!

Pixielady83 Thu 05-Dec-13 08:29:33

Ah janie I'm thrilled for you, many congratulations on Leo's arrival! thanks thanks thanks hope it all went well and you got some rest last night. Enjoy your newborn cuddles!

penguin sorry to hear you are at risk of redundancy. I work in HR so can try and answer questions you have xx

ChristineDaae Thu 05-Dec-13 08:59:09

Firstly - CONGRATULATIONS Janie!! I'm sure baby Leo was worth the wait grin
Pixie , it was mainly on what positions you should sit/stand/walk in to prevent it getting worse. Funny enough I have been having trouble with work for being late (I have to walk about a mile to work from dropping DD at nursery and I just can't do it as fast as I used to) and she told me if anything I should be taking it slower/taking breaks etc. also got 2 support belts to try which is good as one of them helped lots with walking yesterday.
she made a point about how work should actually give you extra time to get from the car park to your desk if your struggling, mine won't even give me 5 minutes for the mile walk...so I have made an appt this morning and am hoping to get signed off. At the minute I walk a mile, then am stuck at my desk all day, then do the mile backwards, it's just too much walking and too much sitting, could do with it being broken up a lot more and work aren't willing to be flexible. Iv only been signed off work once in almost 6 years (with the MC) so I'm not the type to take the mick but its all just a bit much.
Chocolate - hopefully mine will ease up then, I'm almost 33 weeks and so far it's just been getting steadily worse.

IBelieveInPink Thu 05-Dec-13 09:29:58

Found you! phew! I thought the thread had been very quiet!!

GuffSmuggler Thu 05-Dec-13 09:42:56

FANTASTIC NEWS Janie!!! grin Well done you and welcome to the world little Leo xxx

Pentagon Thu 05-Dec-13 09:56:14

oh Janie, massive congratulations!! So happy for you!! Another great weight (same as Elsie's fsmile) and name! You sound besotted (as you should be!), I can't wait to hear more about your labour/birth and gorgeous baby boy. Enjoy your newborn cuddles!

penguin sorry to hear about your job - how stressful! I can't offer any advice as I don't know much on the subject but a couple of ladies here work in HR so they will probably be more helpful. Cyber hugs!

sapphire I meant to say yesterday - but didn't get the chance - that they don't listen to the heartbeat at 16 weeks where I am either. My midwife tried to because she could see how anxious I was and apparently the doppler picked it up (as we could see the heartbeat rate changing) but I couldn't hear anything bar noise. I had listened to it very clearly with DD1 at the same stage so I was very anxious that something was wrong and didn't relax till my 20-week scan (where everything was fine). My placenta was anterior and high which probably made it very difficult to listen clearly, in any case it caused me more worry than reassurance so I understand why they are hesitant to do it - I'm sure your baby is OK smile

nerdy if it's a drop and brown it's most probably nothing to worry about.

Pixielady83 Thu 05-Dec-13 10:16:14

christine that's awful your work are being so harsh, I think getting signed off is definitely the best plan. I can't believe they're not giving you any leeway for a) being heavily pregnant b) being in pain especially when you've got such a good attendance record. Grr. I walk a mile to work either way after getting the train (now get taxis, or DH picks me up this end) and I'm so tired and sore by the time I get into the office it's awful isn't it. Hope your GP signs you off ok.

Pixielady83 Thu 05-Dec-13 10:27:55

penguin you might find this link useful maternity action redundancy information sheet

WhatWillSantaBring Thu 05-Dec-13 12:57:37

penguin firstly, don't worry about stress on little pingu - women manage to give birth sucessfully in warzones, so it will not affect him/her (and worrying that it will just makes things worse).

Secondly, although being put on redundancy notice is crap at any time, you are actually in a better position being on mat leave as you get the additional protection that they must give you first dibs on any new suitable jobs that come up in the same company (and you don't even have to go for interview). As my employment lawyer at work told me (when I was worrying about redundancy here) - its the only example of positive discrimination in the workplace! Although some companies are really really bad at following the law, you get a lot of others that are so paranoid about a sex discrimination claim, that they will be uber careful not to select someone on mat leave (because if they get it wrong for you it will cost them more than if they fuck it up with someone else!)

My spd has got better too, weirdly. Though work (well, a customer) is trying to make me go to London for a meeting next week. I did point out to my colleague that he risks becoming my birth partner if we go grin, so he rapidly put his weight behind having the meeting closer to home!! [Also, he is male and very good looking, so I would be v blush if he ended up having to support me swearing like a trooper and screaming like a banshee in labour.]

kjh5 Thu 05-Dec-13 13:42:28

penguin I hope you aren't stressing too much about the redundancy, hopefully it all works out positively for you. Are there any contingency plans you can put into action in the meantime? I might find myself in the same situation as you - my boss told me last week there is likely to be 'restructuring' in our department early next year, so we should be ready to lose some staff. So reading the advice from santa and pixie was very reassuring!

christine your work sound truly horrendous for having no empathy for what you are going through! A friend of mine was also suffering dreadfully from SPD but found it eased off quite suddenly a few weeks before her bubba was due as he considerately changed position and relived a lot of the pressure on her pelvis. I hope you manage to get signed off and then relax xx

ChristineDaae Thu 05-Dec-13 15:24:43

Hi all, penguin, make sure you read up all you can and know how to cover yourself should you be made redundant.
Thankfully my doc was lovely, told him what was going on at work, and that I felt really dramatic coz I only have 2 weeks till I start my 'pre mat leave' holidays. As soon as I said that he was like 2 weeks?! Well why don't we just sign you off for 2 weeks and be done with it?! No need in pushing yourself if they won't be flexible, you could have came weeks ago and I'd have happily signed you off then! Such a relief. The last thing I wanted was to go to disciplinary for being late right before I left

Honey786 Thu 05-Dec-13 17:43:12

Huge congratulations to u Janie, Leo is a lovely name and enjoy ur cuddles xxx

fedupofrainydays Thu 05-Dec-13 17:54:27

Hi - can I join you ladies? I had a mmc at 11 weeks in Feb and been ttc ever since. I got my bfp on Monday and have been spotting / brown discharge ever since. Absolutely shit scared. Anyone else have this and pregnancy is ok?? So I'm on day 4 of the gunk but did a test this morn and the line is darker than tues. quite rapidly going mental so would like to see if anyone else had this and their pregnancy was ok??

TeaAndANatter Thu 05-Dec-13 18:11:24

Great news, Janie, and many congratulations xx

Welcome Friday, and crossing fingers for this one. Lots of spotters on this forum!

Penguinita Thu 05-Dec-13 18:16:27

Welcome fedup and congrats on your bfp! Were you on the TTC after MC thread?

Thanks everyone for the support about redundancy, and for the helpful link pixie. I'm going to copy my post from the redundancy thread on here, as nobody has responded to it yet! Sorry it is a bit dull.

My whole department has been told that we need to decide between relocation or redundancy. If we take redundancy, the company says it can decide on the exit timing for each individual based on "business needs" and it could be any time in the next two years.

My question is whether it is within their rights to make those of us on maternity leave redundant first? Clearly there is no business need to have us on the payroll for a day longer than necessary. This does feel discriminatory, but as they have offered us a suitable alternative role if we relocate do we forfeit pregnancy protection if we decline it?

fedupofrainydays Thu 05-Dec-13 18:42:56

Hi, yes I've been on the ttc after mc thread for months!!

Sorry I can't really help re HR issues, I don't understand what's legal and what's not re mat leave.

I am not feeling positive about this bean at all and fear my time on this thread will be short lived but felt bad about banging on about it on the other thread when everyone else wants a bfp! Mines a bit more than spotting but not quite a period flow. Liner stuff not tampon stuff at the mo.

Pixielady83 Thu 05-Dec-13 19:08:30

welcome fedup really hope its a smooth pregnancy for you smile I'm no expert on spotting but from what others have said that doesn't sound abnormal. Hope it clears soon.

christine really glad you're signed off, what a relief for you!

penguin relocation offer aside they cannot treat you any differently because of your pregnancy. Therefore if they ended your contract earlier than others who had also refused relocation that would be illegal in my view as they would be disadvantaging you as a result of the pregnancy. They would have to base their decision on when to end your contracts on something subjective so as to be fair to you all. I think this stands even if you refuse the relocation. I'm rusty on how relocation affects what is considered a reasonable offer but if it's at a considerable distance and your contract doesn't state an expectation to work on any of the company's sites (worth checking) I think it could be argued it was not a reasonable alternative. I would be interested in others views on that one though as I'm not 100%

ChristineDaae Thu 05-Dec-13 19:39:42

Fedup - we do have a lot of bleeders on this thread, general consensus is brown doesn't automatically mean bad news. Have you got a local EPU you can visit?

Penguin - as far as I'm aware, they can't make you redundant at a different time than others in your dept who are currently at work and have refused relocation. How many are there in your dept?

MeDoingMyThing Thu 05-Dec-13 19:52:45

ickle not at all - this is your pregnancy and yours to enjoy. Not one for unhappy triggers from an incompetent midwife.

janie - so excited for you and sounds like you're coping well with the contractions. Can't wait to hear how you get on. You have a virtual cheer leading team here!

I had my final scan for the harmony test today at the FMC. All fine - less than 1 in 10,000 chance for each of the things they tested for. Word of warning for anyone thinking of having the harmony test there - do not book trains in single tickets (ie: book an open return instead) as they sometimes run late. Today an hour late. I managed to just make my train but it was really stressful.

MeDoingMyThing Thu 05-Dec-13 19:54:36

Janie - HUGE congrats! I only read first page of thread when I posted! How wonderful. LOVE the name. X

fedupofrainydays Thu 05-Dec-13 20:07:29

Congratulations janie I have just read the rest of this thread and huge congrats on your lovely Leo.

I think I'm too early for EPU. Only 4 weeks preggers. They wouldn't be able to see anything on a scan til 6 weeks.
But good to hear (well not for those ladies) I'm not alone in the bleeding stress. Here is hoping it doesn't get red..

Excuse my ignorance but what's a harmony test medoing?

ChristineDaae Thu 05-Dec-13 20:26:12

Oh I forgot, I wanted to tell you all. At the PGP group, I found out that getting pg again quickly after a MC can be a risk factor. I think this is the only one that applied to me, as I didn't have any pain at all when having DD. it's because Relaxin starts getting released at 5 weeks, so any MC after that, your body has had a good dose of relaxin, and is still trying to get rid of it when you get pg again.

GuffSmuggler Thu 05-Dec-13 20:44:39

Hi fedup I remember you from the TTC thread, is great to see you here.

Sounds like the right timing for an implantation bleed, so you need to just wait it out and be as positive as you can until you can get scanned. The mantra here is 'today you are pregnant' and you stay that way until told otherwise!! It got me through those though first weeks, they go so slowly until you can get the reassurance you need.

Louzul Thu 05-Dec-13 20:51:27

Oh Hi! Sorry I've been off radar for a bit. Hurrah for all the BFP's, thread babies and successful scans.

Sorry I've had a few worrying things happen. I'm now 8+1, and it was a week later in my last PG, that i had my MC. So i'm freaked out as my symptons have suddenly started dropping off. Boobs less painful, less nausa, even slightly less tired. Panicking! Also one of my dear friends from university just gave birth to a little boy. I found out she was PG a week after my MC (which i didn't tell her about), and it's just brought up all these feelings of panic, and sadness. My DH is working all hours at the moment and I'm so so scared. Sorry for freaking out, and i know i cant change anything, just get through it and think positive.

Is it normal to start losing or symptoms lessening at 8 weeks? Help!! confused sad

Louzul Thu 05-Dec-13 20:54:51

Oh and penguinita, are you a member of a trade union. They have given me fab legal advice when I've had work legal issues, and always helped me out. x

cosmickitten Thu 05-Dec-13 21:41:17

Hey ladies very out of loop (mainly had my head down a loo) huge congratulations to new babies, bfp and happy scan news.

Haven't caught up on thread cos even looking a screen adds to the epic puking. However after a scary vomiting blood episode I now have some anti sickness meds. Hoping they kick in soon and I can re joined the world!!

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Thu 05-Dec-13 22:29:30

Take heart Penguin, Ive been to an industrial tribunal over unfair dismissal during PG. They wiped the floor with my employer. To quote: "The rules regarding employment during PG are draconian"...
Are you in a trade union?

Missmidden Fri 06-Dec-13 08:23:55

Coming late to it but many congratulations Janie, so pleased you got in there before induction!

Fedup I was one of those spotting cases that wasn't a problem- in my first (successful) pregnancy I had about a week's worth of brown grunge around 4 wks that I naively took for a light AF so didn't test til the same happened at 8 wks. I also got the same again at 12 weeks. This was a totally normal pregnancy so please don't assume the worst and I have my fingers crossed for you.

Louzel sorry about the lessening symptoms. I believe HCG peaks in the 8th week so some reduction could be seen, but also they can come and go. I am 8+3 and there are some days when boob soreness (my only symptom) goes AWOL. Have you had any scans yet?

fedupofrainydays Fri 06-Dec-13 08:41:37

Thank you miss that's good to know it turned out ok for you.
I stupidly took a cb digital today hoping it would have progressed from 1 to 2 weeks to 2to 3 bit nope. I don't know how accurate these things are but trying and failing to ignore it.

lou it's horrible isn't it, analysing all the symptoms to the nth degree. If you haven't had a scan yet I would def go get one, they are 100 quid privately but worth it on terms of sanity. I will be doing it if I get that far with this pregnancy.

And hi guff I remember you! How many weeks are you now?? Xx

GuffSmuggler Fri 06-Dec-13 09:42:22

fedup I'm nearly 28 weeks and massive! Can't believe it.

Now step away from the PG tests, it will do no good!

Louzul Fri 06-Dec-13 09:47:42

Thanks miss and rainy. Seriously considering it, just for my piece of mind. Really painful boobs last night, but the sickness has gone. I'm off sick today, as think i am fighting a cold. Feeling achy and rough, with tickly cough. Working at home, which is quite nice!!

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Fri 06-Dec-13 10:21:47

Fedup you're not on the ttc thread now, so step AWAY from the pee sticks! wink
CBD can be up to 10 days out. They are more trouble than they are worth!
Remember our mantra, "today I am pg" and try not to stress too much. smile easier said than done

MissMedusa Fri 06-Dec-13 11:28:52

louzul my morning sickness dropped off around 8 weeks as well. I wasn't completely back to normal but it was much better than it had been.

icklemssunshine Fri 06-Dec-13 12:54:34

Fedup - maybe we can support each other? I'll be 6 weeks on Tuesday & each day wake up analysing everything. I haven't got any pg symptoms & it's freaking me out (even though I have a 2 yo DD & didn't gave morning sickness til 8 weeks).

Got a scan Monday - do you think they'll see a heartbeat that soon? Think the scan is to determine an ectopic as had some ovary pain. Trying not to think about the outcome.

With having a MMC I'm now worried about any scans. Just reminds me of February when I went for a scan at 11 weeks & being told they couldn't see anything. Hate the waiting!!

Emki Fri 06-Dec-13 13:27:39

Phew! With penguin 's help I found you! Thinking of youJanie

ickle ask to see another mw, ensure you feel totally comfortable and confident with the people who will be looking after you. Have they given you a date for your booking in apt?

Emki Fri 06-Dec-13 13:29:01

I so didn't read to the last page of the thread! Will catch up!

icklemssunshine Fri 06-Dec-13 13:32:04

emki no, haven't got a MW appointment yet. How it works at my practice is that I fill out a form and wait for call, usually around 8 weeks. Have been t

Emki Fri 06-Dec-13 13:33:21

congrats fedup I remember you! Wonderful news! Its terrifying but we're all here to hold your hand x

icklemssunshine Fri 06-Dec-13 13:34:35

Damn - accidentally pressed "done"!

Told it maybe difficult to have new MW as the community midwife had a number of practices under her so my only option maybe hospital visits.

getagoldtoof Fri 06-Dec-13 14:40:35

Hello all - I'd like to join you, if that's ok. Had two mc, one this july. Got the most amazing amount of support from fedup (hello, lovely!), and others on the ttc threads during that process and since.

I'm now 10 weeks, but not at all able to relax or celebrate. I have had brown spotting for five fucking weeks now. Sorry for swearing but it's getting me down. Just had a chat with DH who has agreed to go for a private scan as I've had a couple of nhs scans at epu, last at 7 weeks, but they've told me not to come back unless bleeding gets dramatically worse. So scan is on sunday, and I'm really worried, can't help it.

So I'll catch up on who is who, but did also want to say congrats to janine, it's nice to see there are happy endings here after mc.

fedupofrainydays Fri 06-Dec-13 14:52:59

Thanks ladies. And good to see some familiar names faces on here. I definately need some hand holding emki and ickle be great to be support buddies!

So I think I'm 4 wks + 5 which was why I was freaking out about the cb digi. As a total minimum I'm 4 + 2 so should really be showing 2 to 3 weeks by now. But I'm not going to stress. she says

I always knew when I finally got my bfp it was going to be stressful time. But I didn't bet on all this blood. Making it a lot harder.
I think if I'm a) still pregnant and B) still bleeding at 6 weeks I will go to EPU to see if they will scan me. If not I'm going private at 7 wks. I just want to know if there is anything there. Last time I got to two days before my 12 week scan, had a tiny bit of brown blood so went to EPU to me cautious just to find I had one massive sac and no baby to be seen anywhere. I had all the pregnancy symtoms too. Really tough.

geta I can't believe you are still bleeding too, but at least it hasn't got worse so there is no real reason why things should be ok as per the last scan. Bit I know that's still so hard.

fedupofrainydays Fri 06-Dec-13 14:56:49

Ps. saggy I'm reciting away. "Today I'm pregnant...."

icklemssunshine Fri 06-Dec-13 15:45:40

fedup I know exactly how you feel. I had the tiniest bit if spotting in Feb so was sent for scan - wasn't concerned as had same with DD & had all the pg symptoms. Found out later the sac was growing at normal rate but baby had dies at 6 weeks. It's hard not to obsess isn't it? My friend is currently 10 weeks pg & not concerned at all, wish I could be more like her! That's the long lasting effect of MC I guess. I wouldn't take any notice of pg tests. Best thing is to have a blood test at this stage. My EPU took mine at 4+3 and 4+6 (should be 48 hours apart but that fell at w'end). See your GP and express your concerns. Mine's been fab (except for next referring me to a different MW so will have to see bitch one).

icklemssunshine Fri 06-Dec-13 15:46:55

Eurgh, so many typo's. Must preview in future!! Sorry!!

icklemssunshine Fri 06-Dec-13 15:56:20

Oh and geta ironically I had thicker brown discharge (sorry for tmi) and for a longer period of time with DD (now 2) than I did with the MC. Think positively - that little bean is burrowing itself nice and deep or it could be hormonal changes with your body adapting to pg.

fedupofrainydays Fri 06-Dec-13 16:02:33

ickle how come doctor offered bloods? Mine was more... Just wait it out. Now its late on fri I will be lucky to get gp appt on Monday. I feel a bit stupid as this month I actually went to see the gp about fertility help as was not getting pregnant. She turned me down saying I needed to wait another year before they would help me sad so worry if I go she will say no to bloods.

icklemssunshine Fri 06-Dec-13 16:19:28

I've got a very supportive GP. This year I've had major surgery and part of it was private treatment on NHS as my GP referred me to the local private and NHS hospital. I had these bloods as I had right side ovarian pain at 3 weeks pg - I actually thought it was OV but one week later I had a positive pg test. Because of my endometriosis my GP was concerned this pg was ectopic. Apparently hormone levels rise slower in ectopics, mine are in normal range. Just got to hope to see a pg in uterus Monday. Think I'll be very lucky to see anything more at 5+6. Is there another GP you can see and say the worry is affecting your health therefore the baby's? If my GP wasn't this supportive I'd be going private. I may do this anyway if I don't get repeat scans. You should never let a GP make you feel like you're wasting their time. You health and well being is paramount.

icklemssunshine Fri 06-Dec-13 16:22:21

Oh and don't feel silly about the fertility help situation. I was given clomid in October as took over a year to conceive (before MC). Had very light period at end of Oct so GP said not to take it again and wait til next month and then I get pg on my own! You can't help the way your body works!!

fedupofrainydays Fri 06-Dec-13 16:35:26

In actually feel a bit calmer at the mo. don't know why. Think I'm more accepting of what will be will be. If it sticks its the right one. If I lose it, it wasn't right. This is what I'm trying to tell myself anyway. I will see how I feel on Monday and if v worried I will be at the doctors like a shot. When will the NHS get with it and start opening at weekends. It's so annoying! People don't decide when they have stuff wrong with them!

MeDoingMyThing Fri 06-Dec-13 17:54:26

fedup - sorry you are having a tough time. It's hard isn't it? I was told that once they see a heartbeat (between 6 - 7 weeks) the miscarriage risk goes down dramatically. Maybe try and hang on to the thought of getting to that point and having a private scan?

The Harmony test is the next generation of downs testing - basically finds 99% of downs, Edwards etc without being invasive. It's a combination of scans and bloods - bloods sent to USA for screening as is only place with technology to read data. Tends to be done at 10ish weeks then another scan at 12 weeks. Not on nhs yet but we have two kids so for us having a baby with problems would be very hard - my husband is rarely at home in the week and I don't think I'd cope. So we paid our £400 at the FMC on Harley street and had the test. Very nice clinic!! No Xmas pressies for me and DH this year - that was out gift to each other.

Sending you hugs and lots of positive thoughts.

Penguinita Fri 06-Dec-13 18:53:24

Congrats on your graduation fedup, I thought I recognised you but then sometimes people have very similar names (there are at least three other penguin related names on the pregnancy threads!). CB digi tests are notoriously inaccurate says she who used three of them trying to get the numbers to go up

And welcome gold too how lovely to have a few more graduates! There haven't been many since me and emki about ten weeks ago (glad you found us again emki grin)

louzol it is very scary when your symptoms disappear but mine sometimes went for 3-4 days at a time when I was at your stage, so although it is worrying I think it is quite normal.

Thanks for all of the advice on redundancy. You girls are just the best flowers I feel a lot more reassured now. I'm not in a trade union but it is a large multinational company so I'm hoping they will do everything by the book. There is a special q and a session for expectant mums next week so hope I can get some more answers there.

fedupofrainydays Fri 06-Dec-13 19:04:25

Did your numbers go up penguin?
I'm trying hard to not go out and buy more to test on Sunday. Read a lot about people who mc when theirs didnt go up. I fucking hate technology sometimes, I just know too much. Ugh. Sorry for the swearing but I just wish I had thought this was my period and had been non the wiser about bfps.
Been googling and found a scan place I think does them at 5 / 6 weeks so might go there. Or just take myself to EPU.

Swear I felt more pregnant a couple of days ago. It may sound stupid but I've taken photos of my bfps.. Just want to remember that it can happen. I did get two lines.

icklemssunshine Fri 06-Dec-13 19:29:50

Try to stay positive fedup. I don't "feel" pregnant either. I'm just hoping those symptoms will appear later or I'm one of the "lucky" ones who won't get any. I feel your desperation though. If I felt even the slightest bit sick that would be a sign.

Penguinita Fri 06-Dec-13 19:33:13

fedup my numbers went up eventually, but later than I expected them to. I have many photos of pregnancy tests on my phone smile

getagoldtoof Fri 06-Dec-13 20:06:40

Fedup - go to epu. I went at 4.4 or something ridiculously early, but it was reassurance that at least there was a sac there. However, I know given what what you've been through, I'm not sure that would be enough reassurance for you.

The scan I booked today was £39 in chelsea, and it's on a weekend. I would book on for a week or twos time if you don't fancy epu.

Ahh, been hearing a lot about harmony testing. They offer it at my hospital on nhs if you have a worrying nuchal scan. It's well worth paying for, though, and I would in a heartbeat if I was worried and could afford it.

ickle, thanks so much for the positivity. I have pg symptoms which I know dont mean everything, but make me a bit hopeful.

Thanks for allowing me to ramble on your thread. Very helpful X

fedupofrainydays Fri 06-Dec-13 20:59:56

I do have reservations with my EPU. Just worried I will get same horrid, unsympathetic, arrogant sonographer! He was so insensitive, didnt let me ask questions and just banged in about 1 in 3 pregnancies ended in mc, and just cos I have had this one doesn't mean I have had my 'one' and I could mc again, and how he was the best sonographer around and would have picked up ectopic (despite me being 11 weeks by then so surely I would have died if it had been?!). Was such a knob.

At the mo I would be happy with a sac! As that's all I would expect at that point... Hmm I think will wait til 5 weeks then get my arse there. Unless it all ends before then.

My only symptom (apart from the brown gunk instead of af!) is I have gone off red meat. Happened with mc too though as well as with ds.

£39!!!!! That's so cheap! Mine is like £90!

Harmony tests sound great too, pricey but like you say, worth it for reassurance if worried.

fedupofrainydays Fri 06-Dec-13 21:02:12

What's the name of that one in Chelsea geta? I'm Surrey so not too far for that price and weekend - if it gets your good review that is!! X

blueskies19 Fri 06-Dec-13 22:21:29

hi all
hope its ok to join this thread again - I couldn't log on for a week so I'm reappearing if that's OK!

I got my BFP last week and I think I'm 5+2 and have had quite a few previous mcs so am really very anxious indeed about this one

I'm a bit scared as I started off last week having a few symptoms like dizziness, sore boobs, cramping and slight nausea and now all my symptoms have totally disappeared and that is making me panic - is that normal or not?

I have done tests every day and they all say positive in various shades some darker than others so that is the only thing that is proving to me that I am pg as I have no symptoms of pg at all but as I've had a few mcs its fair to say I'm petrified and have turned into the queen worrier!

I have a scan booked for a few weeks but nothing till then - is anyone else about the same dates as me with no symptoms? It would be so reassuring if there was as I seriously think there is something wrong with all the tests I've been taking as I just don't feel at all pg

any advice gratefully received

icklemssunshine Sat 07-Dec-13 05:30:42

Congrats on your BFP Blueskies. I'm 5+4 and have no pg symptoms at all. It's freaking me out too. Just trying to comfort myself that my pg symptoms only appear around 8 weeks (been pg twice - 1 DD, 1 MMC). Both cases I only "felt" pg at 8 weeks. If I get to 8 weeks & still have no symptoms I'll be a wreck!!

getagoldtoof Sat 07-Dec-13 06:45:36

Ultrasound Direct offer this cheap one. They have clinics all over the place, so may be one nearby to you fedup. I am going to say I'm not 100% of my dates, as I'm going a bit early for the cheap scan. Think their standard scan is about £100. I can't really justify spending that much right now.

That epu man sounds terrible, you poor thing. What a shitty experience.

DS has just woken up, will be back to see how you all are.

Ps hello blueskies, congrats. I also did a test every day and spent hours diagnosimg if they had got darker. Arghh, it was quite hard going.

Lieslvontrapp Sat 07-Dec-13 07:11:51

Congrats to janie on the arrival of your little boy! So pleased that it all kicked off before you needed an induction. Do come back and tell us more.

Welcome to all the newbies and sorry to hear some are having spotting. The first trimester is so horrible after a mc with all the symptom spotting but try and rake one day at a time and if you can get a scan around 8 wks for reassurance that should help.

Lieslvontrapp Sat 07-Dec-13 07:18:29

Stats 7 December- today we are pregnant

Vixjane: 2 MC, EDD 24 Nov
Vocalista86: 1 MMC, EDD 30 November
ChocolateCremeEggbag: 1DS, 1MC, EDD 16 Dec
DIYandEatCake: 1dd, 1mc, EDD ?16 dec
Booty: 1chemical EDD 19 Dec
Blackholes: 2 MC, 2 DC, EDD 25 December
WillSantaComeAgain: 1DC, 2MMC, EDD 29Dec
pumpkinsweetie mc1, EDD 03 Jan
Christinedaae - 1DD, 1MC, EDD 25th Jan
Lieslvontrapp: 1MMC, 0DC, EDD 10 Feb
TotalShock 0DC, 1MMC, EDD 1 March
Pixielady83 1DD, 1MMC, EDD 2 March
GuffSmuggler: 1DS, 1MCC, EDD 4 March
Rock: 1DS, 1MMC, EDD 4 March
Swangirl:1DD,2DS,1MC EDD 8 March 2014
Motorcyclemama: 1MMC, EDD 17 March
SaggyOldClothPussCat: 1MC, 1DD, 1DS, EDD 13 March
Omri: 1DS, 1MMS, EDD 24 March
Fod27: 1DD 1DS 1MMC EDD 26th March 2014
RainbowConnections: 1DS, 2MC, EDD 1 April
Birdsdoit: 1MMC, 0DC, EDD 6 April
Blackberryand Nettle: 1MMC, EDD 10th April
Katatonic: 1MMC, 0DC, EDD 11 April
TeaAndANatter: DS, DD, 1MMC, 18th April
Honey786: 0DC, 1MMC ,EDD 19th April
Kjh5: 0DC, 1MC, EDD 21 April 2014
PoppySeedBun: 0DC, 1 MMC, EDD 22 April 2014
ImpatientlyWaiting: 0DC, 1MC, EDD 1 May 2014
MarthasHarbour: 1DS, 2MCs, EDD 7 May 2014
Tomkat: EDD 9 May 2014
Polka: 0DC 1mmc 2mc EDD 9th May
CbeebiesIsMyLife: 2DD's 6MC EDD 15th May
MissMedusa: 0DC, 2MC, EDD 20th May 2014
Emki; 1 DD, 2MC, EDD 23rd May 2014
Penguinita: 0 DC, 1 MMC, EDD 27th May 2014
Bakingtins: EDD 6th June
PGchimp: 0DC, 1 MC, EDD 9th June 2014
MeDoingMyThing: 2 DS, 1MC, EDD 14th June 2014

New arrivals:

Jessw25 Baby Oliver born 9 July 2013 5lb 11oz
GaryBuseysTeeth Baby Alexander born 30 July 2013 7lb 4oz
Andadietcoke twin girls born 29 August Charlotte 5lb 5oz & Sophie 7lb 13oz
Pentagon baby Elsie born 23 October 7lb 5oz
Bodicea baby James born 3 November 8lb
Ibelieveinpink baby Imogen born 14 November 7lb 4oz
BumpKitty baby Matilda born 18 Nov 8lb 2oz
Luckysocks13 baby Charlotte born 24 Nov 8lb
Jmf294 baby Alexander James born 25 Nov 7lb 4oz
Shellsocks baby Noah Stephen born 27 Nov 9lb 3.5oz
Gardenworm baby Wolfie born 1 December
Janielovesluckysocks baby Leo Thomas born 4 Dec 7lb 5oz

Lieslvontrapp Sat 07-Dec-13 07:20:56

I don't think vix or vocal have been on here for a while do chocolate & diy I think you're both technically next! How u doing?

getagoldtoof Sat 07-Dec-13 07:27:07

Hi liesl, can I be on your list? Getagoldtoof: 1dc, 1mmc, 1mc edd 2 July 2014. Thank you!

fedupofrainydays Sat 07-Dec-13 07:45:56

Please add me too:
Fedupofrainydays: 1 DS, 1 MC, EDD 12 August 2013

fedupofrainydays Sat 07-Dec-13 07:56:47

geta thanks for the link! No way I can pass as 12 weeks just get...! But will keep that one in mind if I do get that far!! I'm looking at £90 for mine which is expensive but we can find the money for it.

The one I'm looking at is ultrasounduk so v similar name! Based at St. Peter's where I had DS and also the horrible mc but diff part to EPU.

Needed to eat this morn as felt bit sick when woke up. Trying to ignore this mornings spotting and focus on that symptom. Also Spent most of the night gagging, not from pregnancy symptoms but because DH had gone out and against my instructions had a dirty kebab and spent the night breathing horrible kebab and booze breath over me - eeeewwww!!!

Swangirl Sat 07-Dec-13 08:45:07

Wow so many babies born since I last looked at the thread Congratulations everyone on the birth of your babies.flowers
All you newbies congratulations on BFP I hope your pregnancies go smoothly and uneventful. My pregnancy symptoms did not appear until around six weeks and seem to come and go for the first few months.

Updated list
Vixjane: 2 MC, EDD 24 Nov
Vocalista86: 1 MMC, EDD 30 November
ChocolateCremeEggbag: 1DS, 1MC, EDD 16 Dec
DIYandEatCake: 1dd, 1mc, EDD ?16 dec
Booty: 1chemical EDD 19 Dec
Blackholes: 2 MC, 2 DC, EDD 25 December
WillSantaComeAgain: 1DC, 2MMC, EDD 29Dec
pumpkinsweetie mc1, EDD 03 Jan
Christinedaae - 1DD, 1MC, EDD 25th Jan
Lieslvontrapp: 1MMC, 0DC, EDD 10 Feb
TotalShock 0DC, 1MMC, EDD 1 March
Pixielady83 1DD, 1MMC, EDD 2 March
GuffSmuggler: 1DS, 1MCC, EDD 4 March
Rock: 1DS, 1MMC, EDD 4 March
Swangirl:1DD,2DS,1MC EDD 8 March 2014
Motorcyclemama: 1MMC, EDD 17 March
SaggyOldClothPussCat: 1MC, 1DD, 1DS, EDD 13 March
Omri: 1DS, 1MMS, EDD 24 March
Fod27: 1DD 1DS 1MMC EDD 26th March 2014
RainbowConnections: 1DS, 2MC, EDD 1 April
Birdsdoit: 1MMC, 0DC, EDD 6 April
Blackberryand Nettle: 1MMC, EDD 10th April
Katatonic: 1MMC, 0DC, EDD 11 April
TeaAndANatter: DS, DD, 1MMC, 18th April
Honey786: 0DC, 1MMC ,EDD 19th April
Kjh5: 0DC, 1MC, EDD 21 April 2014
PoppySeedBun: 0DC, 1 MMC, EDD 22 April 2014
ImpatientlyWaiting: 0DC, 1MC, EDD 1 May 2014
MarthasHarbour: 1DS, 2MCs, EDD 7 May 2014
Tomkat: EDD 9 May 2014
Polka: 0DC 1mmc 2mc EDD 9th May
CbeebiesIsMyLife: 2DD's 6MC EDD 15th May
MissMedusa: 0DC, 2MC, EDD 20th May 2014
Emki; 1 DD, 2MC, EDD 23rd May 2014
Penguinita: 0 DC, 1 MMC, EDD 27th May 2014
Bakingtins: EDD 6th June
PGchimp: 0DC, 1 MC, EDD 9th June 2014
MeDoingMyThing: 2 DS, 1MC, EDD 14th June 2014
Getagoldtoof: 1dc, 1mmc, 1mc edd 2 July 2014
Fedupofrainydays: 1 DS, 1 MC, EDD 12 August 2013
New arrivals:

Jessw25 Baby Oliver born 9 July 2013 5lb 11oz
GaryBuseysTeeth Baby Alexander born 30 July 2013 7lb 4oz
Andadietcoke twin girls born 29 August Charlotte 5lb 5oz & Sophie 7lb 13oz
Pentagon baby Elsie born 23 October 7lb 5oz
Bodicea baby James born 3 November 8lb
Ibelieveinpink baby Imogen born 14 November 7lb 4oz
BumpKitty baby Matilda born 18 Nov 8lb 2oz
Luckysocks13 baby Charlotte born 24 Nov 8lb
Jmf294 baby Alexander James born 25 Nov 7lb 4oz
Shellsocks baby Noah Stephen born 27 Nov 9lb 3.5oz
Gardenworm baby Wolfie born 1 December
Janielovesluckysocks baby Leo Thomas born 4 Dec 7lb 5oz

Chocolateteabag Sat 07-Dec-13 08:48:27

Hi Liesl - uncomfortable but weirdly not yet "ready" to have LO just yet.
(38+5 today) even though I've done it before, I'm slightly panicking about going through labour again. Keep getting told how it will be quicker this time, which is great considering we live in the sticks and need to get someone to come over for Ds. But my DM is coming in Monday for a couple of days which will be good. And just point my comments out to me when I'm complaining about being overdue through Christmas fgrin

Hello to all the new ladies and congratulations on your BFP's, the symptom spotting drives you mad doesn't it. Everyone photo ing their poas results, check out the HPT galleries on Fertility Friend - you could have labelled and posted them their --says she who still has hers in a box in her knicker drawer]]

DH got up at 5.30am to sort out Ds (wanted "light on") and has clearly just got into bed with him(he's in a double) which means I am having a lovely lie in and mn session this morning.

icklemssunshine Sat 07-Dec-13 10:58:24

Morning all,

Need a bit if hand holding! Last Sat took a CB digi and result read 2-3 weeks. Took one today and still read 2-3 weeks & I am 6 weeks so shouldn't it read 3+? With the MMC I'm afraid my hormones aren't rising again.

Anyone else had this situation? :-(

NerdyBird Sat 07-Dec-13 11:35:57

There's a lot to catch up on!
Firstly, congrats to janie on the eventual arrival of baby Leo! Worth all the waiting!

Welcome fedup and gold this is a great thread for support. fedup I've had spotting too, and two scans so far have shown that things are ok. I think you are at the same hospital as me, everyone at the EPU has been nice so far so it might be worth giving them a ring on monday.
My symptoms had subsided over the last few days bit still had sore boobs and tiredness. Nausea returned a bit yesterday.

ickle If you are 6 weeks it might be worth you calling your EPU or GP. I'm not sure how forthcoming they are with blood tests to see if the levels are rising but it could be worth a shot. I wouldn't rely on CB necessarily as it could be you ovulated a little late.

I'm 8+1 today, never got this far before.

fedupofrainydays Sat 07-Dec-13 12:24:42

Hi nerdy
Did you not get the man with the bow tie? He was the horrible sonographer!
How early was your first scan? I think I may ring on Monday too to see what they say.
Blood much less so far today so hoping its stopping.

ickle same situ for me yesterday but should have said 2 to 3 but only said 1 to 2. Googler this and heard so many stories of CBD freaking people out for no reason. It's only an estimate and someone said it was actually impossible to measure the concentration of hcg in the urine, just whether its there or not. Blood tests are the best way for that. Hugs and a hand hold xxx

icklemssunshine Sat 07-Dec-13 13:11:08

I've had blood tests and there was a rise but now I've convinced myself they've stopped rising. I've read that about CB too, apparently you need over 20,000 to read 3+. My bloods were 1,200 Monday so I should be over 20,000 by now if they're doubling every 24 hours. Already had an argument with DH this morning about it. He says my pessimism will just cause greater stress. Hate CB. Hate Google. Grrrr!!!

NerdyBird Sat 07-Dec-13 13:44:07

No, I had a chap the first time but he wasn't wearing a bow tie. Second time was a lady. My first scan was at 6 weeks. Hope the bleeding stops.

fedupofrainydays Sat 07-Dec-13 13:47:47

Sounds like you escaped him! My friend had the same one on a diff day and was wearing a bow tie both times. Think you would know if you had met him!!

fedupofrainydays Sat 07-Dec-13 13:50:32

Ickle - I thought its doubling every other day. Might be wrong but you had the bloods so try stay positive - they showed things were happening as they should and are much more accurate than a silly CB digital.

icklemssunshine Sat 07-Dec-13 13:56:40

fedup, you're right. Doubling takes place between 48-72 hours. My crazy mind is working against me! From rough calculations I'm going to be below the 20,000 mark then. Not having a great day today. Hope I feel more positive tomorrow. Going to (try) and ban myself from Google for the rest of the weekend!!

katatonic Sat 07-Dec-13 16:53:57

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BlackholesAndRevelations Sat 07-Dec-13 17:09:53

Welcome back kat, glad you're feeling better!

I wrote a long post yesterday but bloody well lost it so I'm sorry for not acknowledging people.

I am 38 weeks now and feel rubbish! Tired, achy, sick, pretty useless really. Had painful bh yesterday all afternoon and period pains. Today ive mainly been lying down as it's so uncomfortable to be upright!

Sorry fir the moan, can't wait to meet my baby but struggling and feel like I'm probably still going to go overdue!

How is everyone else feeling who's nearly there? Xxx

Penguinita Sat 07-Dec-13 17:16:28

How lovely to have all the newbies joining the thread! And really nice that you can all support each other through those tough first 12 weeks. And it means I'm not at the bottom of the stats list any more, woo!

Having mixed feelings today as it would have been the due date for the little bean I lost in May. I'm sad for the loss of our little one, but also very grateful to be blessed with another healthy (so far) pregnancy. I know a lot of very deserving ladies reach this milestone without having that joy. So I'm taking some quiet time to reflect tonight.

Chocolateteabag Sat 07-Dec-13 17:53:56

Ickle - I can't say it's gospel but I'm pretty sure that if you search on MN you'll find lots of people who've found CB digi's aren't the most accurate. It still said 2-3 which is a lot better than if it had dropped back to 1-2. I would wait a few more days and test again, or better still save your money and keep fingers crossed.

Blackholes - feeling your pain, my space invader is busy trying to push his bum out of my tummy button

MissMedusa Sat 07-Dec-13 18:21:42

ickle supposedly the CBD will show 3+ weeks when you're over 2,000 not 20,000.

fedup I was still getting 2-3 weeks on CBD at 6+2 and when I had my bloods done that day, my hcg was at 3000 so it should have turned over to 3+ which shows me that the CBD aren't completely accurate. I stopped using them after that point.

fedupofrainydays Sat 07-Dec-13 19:24:15

Ugh. Spotting is back and have some minor cramps. Hope nothing major..

penguin I got my period on my would be due date. It was really hard,

fedupofrainydays Sat 07-Dec-13 19:31:09

Ugh. Spotting is back and have some minor cramps. Hope nothing major..

penguin I got my period on my would be due date. It was really hard, and a friend had a baby on the same day!! Met the baby for the first time on Friday (September was my due date) and suprisingly was ok, hard but ok. If I'd been pregnant it would have made it easier yes, but just like you would never forget the little once life that we lost.

I've decided I'm not using CBDs anymore this pregnancy. I don't want to be scared! As there is nothing I can do if it hasn't progressed except wait so I'm not going to do it! Today I'm pregnant, today I'm pregnant

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Sat 07-Dec-13 20:05:43

GAH! We need a sticky at the top of our threads: DONT BOTHER WITH CLEAR BLUE DIGITAL, THEY ARE FAR MORE TROUBLE THAN THEY ARE WORTH, HIGHLY INACCURATE AND WILL MAKE YOU SERIOUSLY PANICKY!
There are lots of rules on the TTC thread, we need at least one on here! confused grin
Fed its so hard, try and stay positive. These first weeks are so difficult after MC, but there's a whole stats list of success stories to give you encouragement. Youll get there. xxsmile

katatonic Sat 07-Dec-13 20:26:21

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fedupofrainydays Sat 07-Dec-13 22:11:03

I'm starting to panic about ectopics now (what next i hear you say!). No, seriously. I have browny watery spotting / discharge - like the prune juice I suppose. I think I'm hitting EPU on Monday. I can't cope with this stress. But is that too early to see if on tube or uterus? I will be c 5 weeks. Thanks ladies.

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Sat 07-Dec-13 23:09:30

Fed I had an ectopic which thankfully I MC. There was indeed brown discharge. It seemed to have tiny specks of darker stuff in it at times. I also had those tell tail one sided twinges. They can tell very early on with a scan, as soon as they can verify that there is a sac they can also verify that there isn't one too. So probably 4/5 weeks. Mine was a pregnancy of unknown location because it had already broken down when they scanned me so there was no sac, but a slightly later scan found debris on my ovary confirming ectopic.
There are PLENTY of people who have had brown discharge and been totally fine though. A cervical erosion is a good cause, annoying but quite harmless. Leftover implantation bleeding is another. Its not over yet, stay calm. x

icklemssunshine Sun 08-Dec-13 07:11:01

fedup something that may make you feel better: I found this on CB health professional site
Not Pregnant (0 mIU/ml), Pregnant 1-2 weeks (25 mIU/ml), Pregnant 2-3 weeks (200 mIU/ml) and
Pregnant 3+ weeks (20000 mIU/ml)

http://www.clearblue.com/uk/HCP/pdf/Clearblue_Pregnancy_Test_with_Conception_Indicator_brochure.pdf

Slightly obsessive I know!

Got my scan tomorrow to determine ectopic. Had all the symptoms around 3 weeks - the discharge, right side ovary pain - but haven't had them for last week. Just wondering how much I need to "prepare" myself for bad news tomorrow? I'll be on my own as DH has to work. Wish I had some pg symptoms or something to tell me everything will be okay!

BlackholesAndRevelations Sun 08-Dec-13 07:15:25

Aw ickle, everything crossed for you for tomorrow xxx

fedupofrainydays Sun 08-Dec-13 08:30:47

Hi ickle good luck tomorrow. Whatever happens, at least you know. But take comfort in that your symtoms of ectopic stopped - ie the pain and discharge have gone. And at 3 weeks were very early so prob more like implantation for you? Can you take anyone with you? A family member or best friend? Just so you aren't going on your own... Thanks for CBD stuff, am still not going to use one. As not sure can cope if still says 1 to 2!!

Thanks saggy I'm sorry you had an ectopic. But sounds good that it miscarried and no tube damage. i think tomorrow morning I will be making a lot of phone calls. Got this trapped wind feeling on left side which can also be a symptom but in could be imagining it / could just have trapped wind!

Still in bed (lie in day) so not yet sure what today's discharge will bring. But haven't woken up feeling particularly pregnant!

getagoldtoof Sun 08-Dec-13 09:18:45

Hi gang. I've got scan this morning and I'm basically shitting myself. Trying to think positively, and crossing my fingers.

Fingers hugely crossed for you ickle and fedup for scans tomorrow. Hoping all is well for both of you.

ChristineDaae Sun 08-Dec-13 09:32:38

Good luck for the scan gold!

Ickle and fedup, try to stay positive!

kjh5 Sun 08-Dec-13 09:33:36

Welcome getta and any other newbies too! Congratulations! Today you are pregnant.

fedup and ickle I think most of us reading through your concerns are having vivid flashbacks to our own first few weeks. I too had brown discharge and twingey pains. I convinced myself for a few days the pregnancy was ectopic. After speaking to a friend who went through an actual ectopic pregnancy I realised it couldn't possibly be one, my symptoms were nowhere near as severe.

And this is the main problem with Dr Google. You can pretty much find something awful wrong with either you or the baby that can usually be explained away as normal pregnancy symptoms. I'm saying this with the perfect hindsight of 20/20 vision. It is impossible to stop worrying in the early days. In my first pregnancy I was overcome with an overwhelming sense that something just wasn't right. DH told me I was being paranoid. When I mc'd felt like my instincts had been justified - I just knew something was wrong. Those same 'instincts' have been proved incorrect every single time something felt off or 'just not right' in this pregnancy. Every time I've gotten myself into a panic about bleeding/cramping/excessive morning sickness/strange stabby pains/disappearing symptoms and hurried off to EPU - the baby has been just fine.

This fact doesn't make me worry any less. As I write this I'm trying hard to forget my anomaly scan is in five days. And I'm trying even harder to quell the panic that my run of good luck is coming to an end. That I'm going to find that something is dreadfully wrong with this baby and that somehow I've failed again.

The only advice to give is that you will get through the first trimester, that you will most likely have spotting or cramping (or god forbid bleeding) of some sort and it is perfectly common. I would definitely say never, ever hesitate about going to EPU if you feel something is wrong or seeing your GP or phoning your midwife. I had four scans in the first trimester - two at the EPU, one private and then the 12-weeks scan. The midwives I saw were wonderful. They accepted I'd had a horrible experience with the MC, they reassured me I wasn't being paranoid and they took all my symptoms and fears seriously. Post on this forum too - sharing your fears and getting feedback from wonderful women who have been in the same boat is marvellously reassuring. Good luck both of you next week. I have fx for you and I'm hopeful you'll both be just fine xx

Missmidden Sun 08-Dec-13 09:34:08

For those agonising over HCG levels ( that was me a few wks ago!) I found the link below very useful.

www.babymed.com/hcg-level-in-early-pregnancy

Good lick for the scannees today and tomorrow, fingers crossed for you all.

icklemssunshine Sun 08-Dec-13 09:35:14

gold hope all goes well at scan.

Thanks everyone for the positivity and support. Just got to not associate every little twinge with MC or ectopic. Taking DD out this morning to take my mind off things!

icklemssunshine Sun 08-Dec-13 09:38:46

kjh thank you for such an honest post, makes me feel comforted some what! Wow, 20 weeks scan soon. I can imagine it's both exciting and anxious. I went through my pg with DD stress-free - what I'd give to be like that again!!

MissMedusa Sun 08-Dec-13 10:12:30

ickle I couldn't open your link but those numbers can't be right. At 5 weeks (3+ weeks on cbd) there's no way you should be a 20,000. It wouldn't be possible (or at least usual) to go from 200 to 20,000 in just one week considering the normal rate of doubling every 2 days.

(I made a mistake in my last post because I misremembered 6 weeks as being 3+)

As every one else says, the week indicator is just not accurate. In my last pg, when the test did flip over from 2-3 weeks to 3+ exactly on the 5 week mark, the pg ended in mc. In this one it didn't and I'm now almost 17 weeks.

MissMedusa Sun 08-Dec-13 10:25:45

Have now been able to open the link and I have found where they say 3+ = 20,000. It can't be right though, I don't know if it's a typo or if my calculations are completely off. Every other reference I've found says you should be around 2,000 at 5 weeks.

Good luck with your scan today, we have all been there and we're all thinking of you and hoping for the best smile

icklemssunshine Sun 08-Dec-13 11:59:43

It's all so confusing! Gave in & bought another cb digital (bad ickle!) but it has now moved onto the 3+ mark. If I go by LMP I am 5+5 but is that based on a 28 day cycle? I think I mixture OVed the 15th Nov as had surge of 13th & 14th which if that's true, would I only be 5+2?

This time tomorrow I'll know whether it's ectopic or not. As I said earlier all the symptoms have gone but I have a feeling like I've got a "lump" of some kind in my ribs. Sometimes I can feel it, sometimes I can't. Really hope I'm imagining it!!

icklemssunshine Sun 08-Dec-13 12:00:20

mixture? Mean "must have"!!

Louzul Sun 08-Dec-13 12:09:11

Morning ladies, especially the ladies on first trimester on symptom watch!! I'm right here with you. I'm 8+4 and still trying to take everyday as it comes. Doing the regular pants check, worried that I'm not feeling as sick, my boobs aren't hurting as much, or I'm not as tired as i was. That I'm having mild cramps. My Mum made a good point. Just like everybody is different and individual so is every PG, because we are making individual people. So I'm trying not to worry and panic that my symptoms are lessening. I haven't had a scan yet, but when I have my booking in appointment at 10 weeks, I'm going to talk to the MW. I didn't get that far with my last PG. So crossing all my fingers. All I can do it try not to panic. I'm not really succeeding, but I'm trying.

The hand holding on here has been great so far, and together we can all get through this. Today we are pregnant.

Hey everyone...can I please join you. I need some handholding over the next couple of days. confused

Currently around 6 weeks pregnant, having an early scan on Tuesday morning to check location of pregnancy as I am classed as high risk following an ectopic pregnancy 6 months ago which unfortunately ruptured at 8 weeks and I lost my right tube.

I am so scared and wishing my life away until Tuesday so I can have some answers! I too have been stressing about the CB digital tests...not tested since Thursday when it still read 2-3, was really tempted to buy another yesterday but I have resisted.

I don't really have many symptoms either which doesn't help the paranoia!

I recognise a lot of you from the conception thread, glad you all seem to be doing well!

X

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getagoldtoof Sun 08-Dec-13 13:16:25

It is a typo! CB confirmed it! It should say 2, 000 not 20, 000 in the leaflet.

Ickle I hope all is fine tomorrow, and you haven't had any horrendous pain? I've read that ectopic pregs are excruciatingly painful. Obviously, you really don't want that but it's good to know how sore it can get, so you know what warning signs you need to look for.

Hi overanxious, I know I'm so overanxious! Sorry yo hear about your ectopic, but sounds as though left tube is doing it's job!

I had the scan this morning. They were very annoyed with me as I didn't really meet the criteria for a 40 quid scan. The receptionist won't be winning customer service awards, but the sonographer was lovely. Most importantly baby looks like a baby, moving and kicking and waving and sonographer put me at 10+6, which I'm really pleased about, as that's a little ahead of my dates. Got nuchal scan on 23 december so hoping we can share some good news with family after that.

Thanks Kat smile My scan is at 8.30am so luckily first thing done and dusted! How far along are you now? x

Hi getagold...glad your scan went well. x

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NerdyBird Sun 08-Dec-13 14:18:17

Not having the best day. Didn't sleep well last night, so had an extra nap this morning but still exhausted. Off food so haven't eaten much today. Don't really feel sick but just very 'meh' about food. Just want to SLEEP!

fedupofrainydays Sun 08-Dec-13 14:41:03

Kjh5 thank you for your note, it really meant a lot to know you totally get what i'm going through. this is way harder than the mc. but i knew it would be. I'm essentially an emotional wreck. Would have found it hard anyway, but with blood for a week now i'm just really wrestling with this one and trying not to totally lose the plot.
I like the bit about "your just not right" feelings actually being incorrect. as so much is always about 'instinct' but i think we talk ourselves into stuff sometimes. Probably a protecting mechanism. DH said to me earlier though that perhaps we should prepare for the worst. He is as freaked out as I am by all this.
I'm calling EPU tomorrow morning but do think its too early for them to scan me. Wow, good luck for your anomaly scan, that's gone quick!

Naughty ickle, naughty! but please your numbers have risen. I'm not doing one again, i'm really not. Just going to wait if/til i'm far along enough for a scan and take it from there.

geta yay for scan news! sod the silly receptionist, what was the criteria you failed to meet?! Great news though,and give me hope as i know you from the other thread and the bleeding / gunge you had like i've got now.

louzel i like your mum's comment. that is true. I'm spending the whole time comparing this pregnancy to my first and second (mc) but whats the point, right? Its a different person (just welled up at writing that, as what if i never get to meet them, what if its just another stupid big sac like my mmc?). ugh. this is so hard.

nerdy they are all good signs and symptoms.

blueskies19 Sun 08-Dec-13 15:40:29

just wanted to say best of luck to all you who've got scans this week - I will keep my fingers crossed for you that they go well

It is so hard - this pg is such a worrying time for us all in this early time

I am 5+4 and am panicking about my lack of symptoms but feel like nerdy - absolutely shattered and like I just want to sleep and am not feeling sick but just very "meh" about food like the thought of it is very unappealing when Im normally a BIG eater and the one thing I get very excited about. I did feel nauseous yesterday which I was very happy about! as it was the only reassuring symptom Ive had yet - the only thing that made me less nauseous was to eat - very weird but it did pass thankfully in time to make the dinner in the evening for the family

just wondering if I went for a scan at 6 weeks is this too early?

icklemssunshine Sun 08-Dec-13 19:25:15

Having an emotional moment so excuse me for sounding melodramatic or depressive! Tried talking to DH but he's getting annoyed with my pessimism. Got the scan in 14 hour's time and feeling so sick at the thought, wish it was morning sickness but again it's another day with no pg symptoms at all. Don't know how I'm going to cope if it's discovered it's ectopic. After this horrendous year of MC, 2 surgeries and being told we'd need fertility treatment to conceive, I'm not sure I can take any more bad news.

Sorry if I'm ruining your Sunday night - just needed a ramble without being told to stop wallowing.

BlackholesAndRevelations Sun 08-Dec-13 19:33:09

Blueskies- my pregnancy related nausea always eased off when I ate. Combination of tiredness and low blood sugar always made it worse xxx

Ickle- your dh probably doesn't know what to say to make you feel better. If he's anything like mine, he tries not to dwell on things too much. Keep talking on here xxx

JanieLovesLuckySocks Sun 08-Dec-13 21:14:39

Hello everyone smile thank you so much for all your lovely messages about the arrival of my little guy. I haven't had a chance to catch up since he was born but will hopefully get some time tomorrow. We only got out of hospital tonight, Leo had a suspected infection so they made us stay in while he was on an antibiotic drip. But all is now well thankfully!

I just wanted to thank every single one of you for helping me through every day of this batshit crazy journey. I really don't think I would have got through all of the ups and downs without the help of you all. You are like close friends and I am so lucky to have found you all.

Hopefully tomorrow I'll be able to catch up with everything I've missed while I hand the reigns over to DH for an hour or two!

Big love and heaps of posifrickintivity to you all xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

GardenWorm Sun 08-Dec-13 21:37:05

Awe Janie so glad you are home, it makes such a difference getting out of the hospital and into the craziness of real life! I agree with you, this thread has been amazing, the support we all offer each other is unbelievable. Guys in your first trimester's please stay positive, our thread babies are proof that you can get there. I've been reading your worries and it takes me back, we have all been there and are all here to hand hold. Never sit in silence and bottle it up, share and support. Feeling a bit emotional in a good way as I sit here writing this snuggling my baby, it's been a bloody hard journey but I would do it all again in a heartbeat to get what I have now. Stay strong and keep the posifrickinitivity flowing xxx

Penguinita Sun 08-Dec-13 22:32:36

Just wanted to wish ickle and fedup and over lots of luck for your upcoming scans. Sending lots of positive vibes your way. And big congrats on your good scan gold, it must be a huge relief flowers

fedupofrainydays Sun 08-Dec-13 22:45:30

Oh ickle.. I'm so with you lovely. Hang in there. Your DH is like mine. Tries to be positive - just think if they weren't like that and as negative and as pessimistic as we can get, we would have all jumped ship months ago. We need them to be like that as we can't both be like us, as irritating as it seems that they just don't get it, it's actually helping us more that we think. That's my take on it anyway.

janie I'm new to this thread so I didn't know you pre Leo but congrats! So exciting.

I already feel supported and very much understood by the lovely ladies on this thread - thank you. I know you all get how hellish this is and that means a lot. Had a 20 week pregnant lady round for dinner. Think I coped pretty well with just 3 pants checks throughout the evening. Still blood.

Oddly though. Even my mum, the biggest pessimist in the world seems more positive than me! When did that happen! Appreciate it though as if she was doom and gloom it would get me no where. Right sleep time and on the blower to EPU tomorrow....

Chocolateteabag Sun 08-Dec-13 22:50:10

Best of luck tomorrow ickle

icklemssunshine Mon 09-Dec-13 07:11:30

Thanks all & thanks for those words fedup. Didn't get much sleep & my stomach is churning. It's taking me back to when I had the scan in Feb & had convinced myself I had a MMC and ol and behold it was. Just about to set out. Need to take DD to nursery and then off to hospital.

fedup really hope you get a scan today.

Will check in later and hopefully it'll be to stay on this thread.

fedupofrainydays Mon 09-Dec-13 07:16:46

Ok, I've been a bit naughty but has helped a bit with the worry. Yesterday my friend gave me some ovulation and preg tests - she doesn't need them as due in feb. and she knows we have been ttc for an age. I didn't tell her what was going on as not ready to, nor the best time! Anyway, the bag included a cb digital. And although absolutely petrified it was going to say not pregnant or only 1 to 2 it said 2 to 3 which means four to five weeks, which Is right really. I was literally peering round the door to see if the test had stopped flashing and crept in v cautiously! Don't know why, what did I think it was going to do, jump at me? Ridiculous.

Anyway, I've still got the brown gunk so calling EPU this morn to see what they say. Will probably get a receptionist who doesn't know anything!

Good luck ickle am thinking of you and holding your hand xxxxxx

Bodicea Mon 09-Dec-13 08:23:20

Congratulations Janie on baby Leo. Sounds like you have Brent through a lot.

And garden on little Wolfe

And everyone else I missed during my period I absence x.

Sorry I have been AWOL for such a long time. These babies are time consuming!!!!
Nothing much to repor here apart from still loving being a mummy toy wee man.
Good luck for all the impending births. This thread is such a wonderful source of love and support xxx

Bodicea Mon 09-Dec-13 08:24:24

As you can a see by typos delirious with tiredness!!!

fedupofrainydays Mon 09-Dec-13 09:27:42

So phoned EPU and they do want to see me. Despite being only 5 weeks. Shit scared. Just waiting for mum to come up and look after DS then will be on my way... dH at work so just me.

icklemssunshine Mon 09-Dec-13 09:51:25

Just had my scan & on a positive note the pg is not ectopic but all they can see is an empty sac in the womb. Have got to go back for another scan in 10 days. Not holding out much hope as would've expected to see a heartbeat now. Got to gear myself up for a full day of teaching now when all I want to do is sit and cry.

fedup hope your scan goes well. Lots of luck.

Have my FX ickle & fedup, sending best wishes your way xxx

fedupofrainydays Mon 09-Dec-13 10:06:28

ickle how far are you? 6 weeks? Did they say they would expect heart beat now? I still think 6 weeks is early for that. Great news not ectopic though xxxx

icklemssunshine Mon 09-Dec-13 10:16:20

5+6 according to LMP. No they said they would expect to see a heartbeat at next scan but they would've expected to see a yolk sac today. This is exactly what happened with the MMC - gestational sac at right age but empty. Least I haven't had to wait til 11 weeks this time. My concern is that if it's still empty next week I'm going to have to miscarry over Christmas.

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Mon 09-Dec-13 10:33:11

Chin up Ickle.
At this stage dates can change. If you ovulated, fertilised or implanted late then your dates will be out. My scan at what I considered dead on 6 weeks only just showed a fetal pole. The thinnest of white lines. There's every chance that you are perfectly on track and your Lmp dates are just out. x

fedupofrainydays Mon 09-Dec-13 11:46:07

Doesn't look good for me either. They did a preg test when I arrived and said was faint. That and the discharge means they are worried about ectopic. Waiting for scan... If they can see anything. I feel terrible.
Apparently it's not the same sonographer as last time which is the only good thing in all of this...

Lieslvontrapp Mon 09-Dec-13 12:36:46

Sending positive vibes to ickle & fedup!

Like saggy said your dates could just be out. Fingers crossed for 10 days time.

fedup good luck with the scan this afternoon.

Bakingtins Mon 09-Dec-13 13:14:24

Sending you a ((HUG)) ickle being left in limbo is horrible. Hope you get better news at the next scan.

fedup hope they can see a sac where it should be and your mind is put at rest.

Louzul Mon 09-Dec-13 13:36:39

Hi Ickle and FedUp. Just wanted you both to know I am thinking of you. Hope you are both getting lots of love and support . Xxthanks

GuffSmuggler Mon 09-Dec-13 13:50:07

Thinking of you ickle and fedup the waiting in this whole TTC after MC business is so torturous. Really hope you both get answers soon.

overanxious I remember you from the TTC thread, is great to see you here. I hope everything will be smooth going for you this time.

WhatWillSantaBring Mon 09-Dec-13 13:59:51

Oh ickle how horrid. Its easy to say I know, but remember that dates based on LMP and DtD can be really inaccurate - and at 5+6 even a few days makes a big difference. I didn't think a yolk sac was visible till 5+5 anyway, so even a couple of days out could make a difference.

fedup hope the scan isn't bad news - keeping fingers crossed.

For both of you, if it is bad news, be kind to yourselves - just because you've found out earlier than last time doesn't make it easier, nor will you be "used to it" (which I was convinced would be the case). And have heart that there are lots of people on here who have had more than 1 MC in a row and have gone on to have successful pregnancies.

kat - glad to see you back. I feel your microwave meal pain ... our kitchen is still there but only a matter of days till it goes, and its now going to be mid Feb before its back sad

I'm now 37 weeks and very uncomfortable, and suffering from chronic insomnia. Still got a week of work to go too, and they're being mean to me. Ok, they're not ACTUALLY being mean, but I'm definitely not getting any special treatment for being heavily pg and still having to slog my guts out to get all the work done. I think i'm wavering towards wanting the baby to arrive early and before Christmas, because I'm just so grumpy when pregnant! I will, however, be gutted if I'm in hospital on Christmas morning, because DC1 is sooooooooooooooo excited about Santa that I really really really don't want to miss stocking opening sad

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Mon 09-Dec-13 14:11:43

Crossing my fingers for everyone. and my legs, might help with the incontinence!
It makes my problem seems totally irrelevant!
I lent my cousin my cot when she had her 2. She's just broken the news that her twat face 3 dumped it. She only just found out and has been scared to tell me! sad I swore it was no problem, not to worry, don't be daft but inside im crying! sad Both my DCs slept in it and several other family babies. It was a tradition! sad
Oh well! I suppose buying a new one will be fun.

I sincerely hope that those of us going through shit now come through it ok. I can honestly attest that the shittiest crappiest times which seem like they are unendurable do end, there's light at the end of the tunnel and one day all these worries are if not a distant memory then manageable and even seem nothing.
The Posifrickentivity here held my head above water, I hope it can do the same for you all. xx

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fedupofrainydays Mon 09-Dec-13 14:28:04

Not good news here. Couldn't see any sign of pregnancy in uterus. Internal bleeding but weren't sure of source. Admitting me, taking blood and potential camera surgery if hcg is high.

icklemssunshine Mon 09-Dec-13 14:34:09

fedup I'm so sorry. Will be thinking of you. Hope you've got people IRL who'll be there with you x x x

icklemssunshine Mon 09-Dec-13 14:37:46

whatwill I'm holding into that hope. According to due date calculator that allows cycle length to change, I'm 5+4 which fits in with my OV date (had positive OPK 13th & 14th of Nov). Just hoping that it's too early to see the yolk and not just another MMC. My friend has her 12 week scan the same day as my scan next Weds. When I had my ERPC this year I found out the same day another friend was of with twins due around my EDD. Not sure if I can take that again :-(

kjh5 Mon 09-Dec-13 14:47:44

Oh ickle and fedup really hoping that you are both ok and getting lots of support in RL. Sending virtual hugs and holding thumbs for both of you xx

kjh5 Mon 09-Dec-13 14:57:42

Kat I had an entire Terry's choc orange for dinner on Saturday night while I was watching Strictly... and nothing else, this baby is getting top quality nutrition I tell you!

For some stupid reason DH and I decided to completely redo our bathroom and so we've had builders in banging around from 8am for the past 10 days and no access to a loo or shower - which has all handily managed to coincide with the back/hip/pelvic pain becoming so bad I'm only getting about two/three hours sleep a night. GP referred me to a physio a week ago and I've heard nothing - can't get hold of anyone at the hospital either so in desperation I've booked myself into the private physio down the road. The thought of having to go into work tonight is making me want to sit down and sob - but I had two sick days last week so there is no way I can just stay at home. I have to say, the thought of early mat leave is becoming more and more attractive.

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MissMedusa Mon 09-Dec-13 15:22:39

ickle I wouldn't worry yet, it's still very early. Did they tell you how big the sac was? Were you the one whose cbd test showed 3+ yesterday? If so, and assuming the thing is accurate, which we all know it isn't but let's pretend for now, the you won't be far over 2000 hcg today. According to this chart you wouldn't be able to see the yolk sac until at least 5000 hcg, which you could well be at tomorrow but be able to see nothing today.

http://www.babymed.com/hcg-level-in-early-pregnancy

I had a gestational sac of 8mm at 5+1 but no yolk and no fetal pole but when I went back one week later everything was in place, growing fine and there was a heart beat.

fedup I'm very sorry about your news, could it also be too early to see anything for you too?

I've had my first bit of good news in weeks today as went back for a second ultrasound after my 12 week bloods came back somewhat high risk for trisomy 13/18 (1:305) and it looks like everything is physically ok and there are no abnormal physical markers present. As trisomy 13/18 are such severe disorders, abnormalities do tend to show up in ultrasounds by this stage and because my risk was only moderate (due to low hormone levels) I have decided to forego further testing and am going to assume everything is fine with baby. We also found out the sex today and we are having a little boy! DH is ecstatic and I am very pleased, for me it makes it just a touch more real now. I am also waiting for test results from the hospital to make sure I'm free of infection so that they can stitch up my incompetent cervix and although I'm scared of the procedure I know it's the right thing to do for my little boy.

Sconeintheoven Mon 09-Dec-13 15:29:50

I hope it's ok to join you ladies for a bit of hand holding. I am 6 weeks + 5 and am generally bricking it after 3 miscarriages this year. First scan on Wednesday when I'll be 7 weeks and hoping against hope to see a heartbeat.
I have a gorgeous 2 and a bit year old girl who has kept me just about sane this year and I hope more than anything to give her a brother or sister.
Been following this thread for a while now; even during my last pregnancy but was too chicken shit to say hello. So "hello". I think you are all amazing at hand holding.
Ickle and Fedup, so sorry you are having these anxious times. Just rubbish and completely unfair.

NerdyBird Mon 09-Dec-13 15:47:31

ickle and fedup really sorry the scans haven't gone well for you.

ickle dates are funny things. My last period was in September. If you go by that date I am 13 weeks. I am most definitely not, and knew I wasn't. I just randomly had a really long cycle and got pg on it. They've dated me based on baby size I think, and that works with my ov date. On friday I was 8 weeks so I counted back and 6 weeks prior to that was the day after I ov, according to the app I was using. So it could be too early to see much for you. Try to hold on till your next scan.

fedup I'm sorry you're in such turmoil, but hopefully by admitting you they will find out what is going on one way or another. We'll all be thinking of you.

Hello scone welcome to the thread. Good luck for your scan on Wednesday.

BlackholesAndRevelations Mon 09-Dec-13 15:49:06

Aw fedup I'm so so sorry it sounds bad for you. I hope its not an ectopic. Much love and thinking of you xxx

ickle as others have said, hopefully it's just too early for you, and something will show up next week. Hugs xxx

Welcome Scone, congrats and everything crossed for this one to be sticky!

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Mon 09-Dec-13 17:53:39

{{{{hugs}}}} for fedup. sad
Im so sorry that things look bad for you. A positive point is that if the PG is ectopic then it's early days and they are on the case. The longer an ectopic is left the worse the effects. Take care. xx

icklemssunshine Mon 09-Dec-13 18:22:26

medusa, I took the cb test Sat evening & it reached 3+ after an eternity. I'm pretty sure I'm 5+4 based on OV & from what I've read the earliest a yolk sac is seen is 5+5. Wish I hadn't been scanned early. I know they did this as was concerned about ectopic but now that worry' sovereign I've now got the "is it another mmc?" worry. If I only felt pg I'd feel better. What I wouldn't give to have my head down the toilet bowl!

Thanks for the support everyone - you're my saviours at the mo x

icklemssunshine Mon 09-Dec-13 18:23:44

"Sovereign'? Should be 'now that's over'. Damn iPhone!

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Mon 09-Dec-13 18:27:41

It doesn't get any better. wink I'm 26 weeks and I'm now worrying about premature labour! hmm My bladder has all but given up and I keep thinking "are my waters leaking"...
And then we have the babies and the worry really starts! confused wink grin

Sconeintheoven Mon 09-Dec-13 18:29:54

Ickle it really does sound like things could be fine for you. When will they scan you again?

icklemssunshine Mon 09-Dec-13 18:40:15

saggy, just one worry after another eh? My pg was DD was problem free til 34 weeks when I went into early labour, she was desperate to come early & she's still an early riser now! Wish I could be more like that again! Just keep thinking back to Feb when I thought all was fine til a scan revealed the MMC. Had the same nurse in the room today that delivered the news before. Trying not to be superstitious.

scone welcome to you! How are you doing? Got another scan next Weds. Going to be a long 10 days :-(

BirdsDoIt Mon 09-Dec-13 18:57:34

Hello everyone

fedup really sorry to hear your scan didn't go well. I really hope you've got lots of real life support and good care in hospital - as saggy says, if it's ectopic then it's good that they're on the case early. So shit though. Hugs.

ickle keeping my fingers crossed for you that your dates are out and that's why they can't see a yolk sac. Those days waiting for a follow-up scan do seem to take an AGE so keep busy if you can! I think it was you that said about your DH being annoyed with your 'pessimism' (aka totally understandable fear, anxiety and hope - lethal combination) - my DH is the same. And I agree with what others have said, that we probably need this to balance things out, otherwise two emotional wrecks would just be too much in one household.

Actually DH and I had a totally weird conversation at the weekend, prompted by my finding out that one of my friends has just discovered at her 3 month scan that her baby doesn't have a heartbeat - and he said something like, well it's probably just a temporary setback. I tied myself in knots and got extremely emotional (and angry if I'm honest) trying to explain that even if you found nothing but a sac there (as we did for my mmc in March) you still feel like you have in some way lost a baby, or what you hoped would be a baby. He genuinely thinks this is illogical and that you can't grieve for a baby you lost when it wasn't there, or that was only (his words) 'a bundle of cells'. He thought that the main thing that had upset me about the mc was the fear that we wouldn't be able to have children, and therefore the fact that mc was so common should be 'comforting'. I said the last bit was true in so far as there were other people who understood how you felt, but knowing that other people had gone through the same crappy situation was not 'comforting', just sad. God I was boiling with rage (and typing this is making me angry all over again) but really tried to keep calm and explain my point of view. Then he got angry and upset with me because he said he hadn't realised I felt like that and how could he have misunderstood my pain for six months? At which point I gave up because quite frankly the conversation was futile. He is otherwise such a thoughtful, caring, lovely person but I think that it is very very hard for them to understand how ttc and then cm makes us feel. But really AAARGH!!!

Sorry for the rant.

On a happier note, Terry's chocolate orange. Mmm. kat and kjh one of you is going to have to call your baby terry smile

And santa and kat I'm with you on the building works! Builders arrived to start installing new bathroom and downstairs loo today. Busy planning new kitchen to be installed end feb / beg March - but will probably end up being later. Baby due beginning April - this is so clearly not a great idea! santa have you got somewhere else to go when baby arrives or are you camping out at home?!

BirdsDoIt Mon 09-Dec-13 18:59:12

Mc not cm, obviously

blueskies19 Mon 09-Dec-13 18:59:35

thinking of you both ickle and fedup - Im so sorry to hear your news - lots of hugs to you both

Im 5+5 and no symptoms so really panicking - slight wave of nausea but nothing really noticeable and I don't have a scan for a few weeks

I think those clearblue digis are so stressful and I hope they're not accurate - I took a test at only 4 weeks and it showed up as pregnant 3+ which it could no way have been as my LMP was only 28 days before so my confidence in them has completely vanished - now panicking what scarily high hcg levels and no symptoms means - google is just not a friend at the moment as it came up with all sorts of scary scenarios and Ive decided that its best to steer well clear of google and tests!

Big hugs to fedup and ickle - these early days are just so hard for everyone - its turned me into one huge worry ball sad

icklemssunshine Mon 09-Dec-13 19:14:48

blueskies I have no symptoms either. Trying not to attribute that to anything negative but it's difficult! I only started to develop symptoms with DD around 7 weeks but I'd have had the scan by that point to determine a viable pg. I've only know I've been pg 2 weeks (tested 2 days before period was due) & it's been the longest 2 weeks ever!

Sorry to hear you're worrying about your scan ickle - fingers crossed your dates are a bit behind and everything turns out okay for you, hope the next 10 days go quick for you. X

Fedup - Sorry to hear your news hmm hope you're being well looked after and that it's not ectopic. X

I am sooooo scared for my scan tomorrow morning, don't think I will be able to sleep tonight....

X

ChristineDaae Mon 09-Dec-13 19:44:28

Fed up I hope you're being well looked after.
Ickle, sounds like your chances are still good so try to hold on to that.
Over good luck tomorrow!

I'm on day 3 of being signed off and so far not doing well with the taking it easy. Although sitting is so uncomfortable I don't have much choice but to be up and about. On the plus side my house is gleaming, iv sorted ALL DDs art supplies so I know what we need for Xmas, and my tree is getting delivered tomorrow. Also have the baby stuff down out the loft which was weird, doesn't feel like time yet, but DP was keen to do his bit and build the crib as I did everything for the bedroom when I was having DD.

TeaAndANatter Mon 09-Dec-13 20:34:12

Sorry to hear ickle and fedup are having tough times.

I've got some horrible teary hormones. Two weeks of crying at pretty much anything at all. Didn't have this with the others. Yuck. Broadly all right with everything else though but I am wondering whether I've got the start of a rectocele. Fab

Pixielady83 Mon 09-Dec-13 21:00:16

fedup so sorry it is not good news, thinking of you xxx

ickle I'm sorry you've not had positive news either, I really hope your dates are out and it could still be ok xxx

scone and over welcome smile hope you have trouble free pregnancies. Thinking of all of you going through the anxiety of the first 12 if not 20 weeks. It does pass and get better but its so hard working through the milestones of previous mcs and scans thanks

saggy I also know that fear especially since developing a bad cough, my poor bladder is not coping blush but every time I think oh no is it my waters. Silly but another step along the stressy journey we are on!

Sympathising with all the renovation or bathroomless ladies, why do we think pregnancy is a good time for these projects grin me and 3 of my friends all undertook bathroom reno in our first pregnancies it was some kind of weird compulsion that overtook us! typically my bathroom was removed the week I fell and could no longer walk due to my pelvis collapsing in on itself, that was fun hmm and another friend's straightforward new bathroom resulted in 4mths of work when the floor fell through while they were taking out the old bathroom! she didn't even get home in time for her baby arriving, they were still living with ILs confused

incidentally I am at the exact point in my last pregnancy where I ended up on crutches and immobile due to the fall and subsequent SPD. Feeling v lucky not to be as badly affected this time. Nights are v painful turning over but walking short distances is going ok and I'm hopeful I'll manage to stick work out for another few weeks.

janie lovely to hear you and Leo are home smile

miss lovely news re: your tests and congratulations on having a little boy! smile

santa sorry your work aren't cutting you any slack, how rude. Not long now though.

fedupofrainydays Mon 09-Dec-13 21:43:54

So I'm in hospital. Being monitored every hour. They couldn't find a sac in uterus. I had some bleeding in pelvis area but couldn't see where it can from. It's unclear if I need surgery or not with camera to see what's going on so I'm nil by mouth since 11 am. On a drip now but still starving.

So don't really know what's going on. I do know this is breaking me though, and ttc after this will be even harder, if I can do it again at all.

Thanks for all your best wishes xx

Penguinita Mon 09-Dec-13 21:45:51

Oh fedup I'm so sorry sad. Massive hugs {{{{{{}}}}}}

I hope everything turns out ok for you ickle. Early days yet but I'm sure the wait until your next scan will be agonising. We will be here for you!

Welcome scone, good luck for your scan on weds, and good luck for tomorrow over.

I've been getting pains at the base of my spine and top of my bum. Am I being paranoid or could it be the start of SPD? I have a midwife appointment on Friday, wondering if it is worth mentioning it.

MeDoingMyThing Mon 09-Dec-13 21:58:28

Oh fedup you poor thing. Life is mighty unfair sometimes. I am sending you hugs and lots of hand holding. Be gentle with yourself and try not to think too far ahead at the moment - get through each hour as it comes. Sending love. x

Pixielady83 Mon 09-Dec-13 22:02:39

fedup so sorry to hear you are stranded in hospital. My only advice re: TTC (and I haven't had multiple mcs so I'm probably not the best person to comment) is to give yourself permission to switch off from that for as long as you need to in order to cope with it again. Know you will come back to it and feel positive in time, but at the moment you need your resources to cope with now, not stress about what you'll be able to deal with in the future. I hope that's not unhelpful, I just really remember feeling so stressed about how I would cope with further setbacks and in the end I had to park those concerns in order not to unravel entirely. I'm so sorry you're having to go through this thanks

Pixielady83 Mon 09-Dec-13 22:04:51

penguin worth mentioning those pains- in the meantime be careful lifting/pushing heavy things so as not to strain anything further and try and keep your legs together as much as possible when getting out of the car, bed etc x

Pixielady83 Mon 09-Dec-13 22:06:01

it won't necessarily be SPD though, I had a lot of lower back and coccynx pain in first trimester as things stretched, then it settled by 15/16 wks x

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kjh5 Mon 09-Dec-13 22:07:27

penguin definitely mention it to your midwife. That is how mine started and because it was manageable I thought I'd grin and bear it. I now can't sleep because of the pain. I'm still waiting for my physio referral to result in an appt.

Sconeintheoven Mon 09-Dec-13 22:08:54

So sorry to hear this fedup. I'm sure you're feeling devastated and quite frightened right now. Things will start to feel clearer and more manageable soon. In the meantime I hope your dp and loved ones are giving you the love you need x

Pixielady83 Mon 09-Dec-13 22:16:24

kjh if you're in a lot of pain and still waiting for a physio appointment it might be worth ordering a support belt from amazon, saggy linked to a good one a few threads back.

Also, I'm sure it's not for everyone but I'm finding a lot of relief in reflexology sessions. Apparently osteopathic treatment can also really help to realign although I haven't explored that yet, wanted a low intervention approach first.

kjh5 Mon 09-Dec-13 22:21:50

Thanks pixie I actually had one delivered last week so I've been wearing it when out and about. Booked a private appt for tomo aftn, so Fx they can sort it out. smile

Thinking of everyone who has scans tomo - and hoping fedup is coping ok xx

GardenWorm Tue 10-Dec-13 01:51:37

Thinking of you Fedup, it's heartbreaking, I hope you have lots of real life support to help you through this XXX

Lieslvontrapp Tue 10-Dec-13 06:50:40

fedup really sorry you're going through this. I hope they can work out whats going on soon.

Welcome scone and congrats on the bfp.

Good luck with the scan today over.

Less than an hour to go and I am feeling physically sick, I don't know how I am going to sit in the waiting room. I don't think I have ever felt so nervous. Please cross your fingers and toes for me everyone I need lots of good luck thoughts. shock X

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Pixielady83 Tue 10-Dec-13 08:01:58

over loads of luck xx

kjh will be interested to see how you get on with private physio as NHS physio do next to nothing! let us know x

Louzul Tue 10-Dec-13 08:15:08

Thinking of you FedUp. Hopefully you can get some answers soon. So sorry that you are going through this.

Good luck over!

pgchimp Tue 10-Dec-13 08:26:17

fedup, I hope the night has been bearable and you are getting some information at least. so sorry you are going through this.
over, welcome and good luck today. keep breathing!

BirdsDoIt Tue 10-Dec-13 08:57:31

Thinking of you today fedup. I hope they can tell you what's happening at least x

over keeping fingers crossed for your scan, good luck thoughts coming your way x

Good news so far...pregnancy in correct place, everything seen which should be and saw the flickering of heartbeat. Said I am just about 6 weeks +.

So relieved my remaining tube works, just got a very long wait ahead of me now.

Thank you so much for your good luck wishes. Xx

Goodluck over xxx

Thinking of you today fedup xxx

Sconeintheoven Tue 10-Dec-13 09:16:33

Huge relief, Over! Today you are definitely pregnant.

Fedup hope you are doing ok and getting some answers.

Pixielady83 Tue 10-Dec-13 09:36:31

That's great news over so pleased for you smile

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ChristineDaae Tue 10-Dec-13 10:45:37

Congratulations over!

Bakingtins Tue 10-Dec-13 10:47:23

Congratulations over great news!

fedupofrainydays Tue 10-Dec-13 10:48:44

Pleased for you over some positive news amongst my broken world at the mo. and means if I do end up a uni tuber then there is hope. Although after this ttc is definately on hold.

After a terrible nights sleep and continual sobbing, I'm allowed to go home. Tests been ok overnight. I've got to come back in for bloods tomorrow and if pregnancy is developing I need a rescan and camera surgery to find the pregnancy.

I don't feel pregnant any more. And they say its likely I will just miscarry, wherever the pregnancy is.

So I guess the good news is I am alive and get to go home.

Bakingtins Tue 10-Dec-13 10:52:11

Glad you have been released fedup hope you can get some sleep once you are home. Since they are monitoring you for suspected ectopic it's unlikely you'll lose a tube. I know it's still a shitty situation to be in. I hope you get clarity tomorrow. Try to get some rest. flowers

kjh5 Tue 10-Dec-13 11:04:13

Oh Fedup there are some situations in which there are literally no words. At least you are able to go home now, here's hoping you get some definite answers over the next few days thanks

Over so happy for you, this is excellent news. Here's hoping you an relax a bit now, as kat pointed out you are halfway to 12weeks and its all looking great at the moment!

pixie will let you know how I get on this aftn at the physio, my pain is much more concentrated across my lower back, down into my thighs, round my hips and my coccyx so I'm hopeful they can sort it out! Although I did actually sleep last night, which was such a relief!

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Missmidden Tue 10-Dec-13 14:31:07

OhFedup I don't know what to say- what a horrible thing to happen. I hope you have someone to look after you in this dreadful time.

Ickle I'm sorry you are in limbo land, and hope you can find some way of filling your time and mind until the next scan.

Congratulations on the good scan news Over.

I am in need of a little hand holding myself, I fear. I'm 9 wks today and have another private scan on Saturday (last one at 6+4) and until a couple of days ago was feeling moderately confident. However since Sunday afternoon I have had much less boob soreness (my one and only symptom), and I am pretty sure that when pregnant with DD it went on longer than this. I've also scared myself by reading stories of people with good early scans who lost symptoms and then found they had a MMC at the next scan (and I'm on progesterone which would hold off bleeding a bit anyway). Also away at a work conference til tomorrow evening so have to put on a confident and happy face when I really don't feel like it sad

NerdyBird Tue 10-Dec-13 16:50:31

missmidden I will hold your hand. Keep thinking the same sort of thing. I was confident for a few days last week but by the weekend it was wearing off, along with most of my symptoms. I had been thinking about a private scan but I'm not sure if I could face it if it turned out something was wrong, especially this close to christmas. I'm 9 weeks on friday and my next scan is 3rd January.

Sending massive hugs to fedup xxxx

Louzul Tue 10-Dec-13 17:27:14

Nerdy and Miss, I think we are In The same boat! My 12 week scan is on the 6th and my symptoms have been lessening too. However, this could be the passing from the embryonic period to the fetal period and apparently a lot of women's symptoms do die down between weeks 8-12. I'm still worrying every day but keeping this thought in my head. Remember: today we are pregnant.

icklemssunshine Tue 10-Dec-13 17:47:43

nerdy, miss, lou, my friend has her 12 week scan next week and after a few sicky weeks she was symptom free by week 10. I remember with DD I felt sick up til week 9 an it passed.

fedup so sorry to hear your news. I hope you're taking time to look after yourself and have lots of love and support at home.

Trying not to get my hopes up but today I've felt sick all day. Have eaten so much since getting home to try and fight the nausea as if I don't then I feel worse. I felt like this with DD but not with the MMC so hoping that's a good sign. Won't know til next weds though.

MeDoingMyThing Tue 10-Dec-13 18:55:52

Had a scan today on NHS - 12 week one but am actually 14 weeks. Well the baby is still alive despite my convincing myself yesterday that it isn't. Feel like I have reached another milestone so am pleased but still feel cautious.

Hope everyone else is okay. Going to have to get a really early night as the tiredness is still getting to me.

Missmidden Tue 10-Dec-13 19:29:21

Congratulations Me!

Thanks for the sympathy Nerdy, Louzel and Ickle it is good to know I am not alone in all this. About to head down for a work Xmas do- my strategy is to pretend to drink and hope no one notices!

blueskies19 Tue 10-Dec-13 19:55:23

Really hope you're getting lots of love and support in RL Fedup and do hope you're ok - sending many hugs to you

Keeping all my fingers crossed for your scan ickle - what a worrying time for you - really hope it goes well - I think Ive got my dates totally miscalculated and so I don't really know where I am - do hope the time flies by quick for you and that it brings good news

I think Im 5 + 5 today and after worrying that I have no symptoms Ive had nausea and then morning sickness today which although not pleasant was a great reassurance for me as up until now Ive hardly had any symptoms - who knew that feeling sick would be such a happy occassion smile

The one worrying symptom Im still getting and quite alot today is cramping and I wanted to ask if there anyone else around my dates or anyone further along who has had this and its all been fine?? - is it normal to have this or should I be panicked?? - Im starting to really worry as Ive had previous mcs and am desperate that this goes ok after three previous mcs

Ive got a scan but not till next week and Im petrified and just looking at getting through each hour still being pg which for me is a real achievment

any reassurance from anyone who's had cramping at 5 + 5 and gone on to a succesful pg would be most helpful - many thanks in advance

icklemssunshine Tue 10-Dec-13 20:05:36

Wow blueskies we're both 5+5 and have started to experience nausea on the same day! Got to take that as a good sign. What kind of cramping are you experiencing? I had a kind of "pulling" or over stretching feeling with DD.

MeDoingMyThing Tue 10-Dec-13 21:08:08

blueskies - I had cramping a lot until about 9 weeks and have a few pals who had the same so worry not! X

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Tue 10-Dec-13 22:14:03

I had cramping. Its generally just your uterus preparing and getting into shape. smile

kjh5 Tue 10-Dec-13 22:18:39

blueskies the cramping question is one that gets asked by just about everyone at the beginning of their pregnancies. It is totally normal and nothing to worry about unless it is severe and accompanied by heavy bleeding. If it makes you feel any better I'm 21 weeks and still cramping every other day or so - it's caused by your uterus muscles and ligaments stretching.

I can't quite remember who asked about the physio (think it was penguin or pixie) but for anyone second or third trimester people suffering from back pain or SPD - here's £50 worth of advice for free: get your pelvic floor exercises in twice a day and wear a maternity support belt. The physio I saw was actually lovely and did a proper assessment. All the pain is caused by the pressure of the baby shifting my pelvis out of line. She has strapped me up until I see someone on the NHS who can measure me for a mat belt (but the ones you buy online are just as good) and said strengthening the pelvic floor is vital. I'm already in less pain so the strapping is working. Now just have too see if the exercises help over the next few weeks and keep my Fx for that NHS appt!

BirdsDoIt Wed 11-Dec-13 09:30:00

fedup sending sympathy and a big hug your way. You poor thing x

kjh that's interesting to hear - I've started to get lower back pain and my back clicks ominously every now and then - am 23+4 so maybe I need to be doing these pelvic floor exercises of which you speak! Can anyone point me in the direction of instructions online? I've got midwife appt next wed so will ask her too.

blueskies I have intermittent cramping still too, and period type pain in the early weeks (prob up until 12 wks or so?)

Good news on all those sicky symptoms ladies! One day at a time...over and me really pleased to hear your scans went well.

me even at almost 24 weeks I still feel cautious - more confident, but cautious. For me the 22 week scan was a big milestone, more so than the 12 week.

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Wed 11-Dec-13 10:10:16

Birds you should get a belt . My hips and pelvis are shot, when I roll over in bed, my lower back goes crunch! I've got a Nexcare maternity support belt. Its a life saver.

blueskies19 Wed 11-Dec-13 10:35:23

Thanks so much for your replies - that's very reassuring and Im so pleased to hear - I was starting to worry as its been around for a while - that's such a comfort to hear

Hi ickle - yes we're about the same dates smile Im not sure exactly where my dates are and haven't yet seen anyone but that's where Im dating it given my LMP
Im getting sort of a dull ache feeling and very period type of cramps - sometimes it can go on for a few hours continuously and feels like its getting stronger and then eventually goes away= phew - I also occasionally get that pulling feeling like Ive pulled a muscle and lower bad pain

Morning sickness is not as intense as yesterday by any means but Ive got a very mild "not quite sure if I want any food" feeling rather than the intense sickness as yesterday - not sure what all that means but as long as I have some mild nausea its a bit of a reassurance to me at this stage smile

thanks medoingmything - its greatly reassuring to hear yr at 9 weeks and had this too along with some friends
thanks saggy - that explains the cramping - I thought I was too early for that to happen but that makes alot of sense

thanks as well kjh5 and birds - glad Im not the only one who's asked this question - was thinking I was a bit silly but all your answers are most reassuring

just another quick question - sorry! How many scans till you have in the early stages - Im due to have my first one next week and am petrified - just wondered what others did about follow up scans?

blueskies19 Wed 11-Dec-13 10:38:01

oops that meant to say back pain - silly typing is not working this morning due to me turning into an insomniac - that's one symptom I wish would not be around!

kjh5 Wed 11-Dec-13 12:02:34

Saggy thanks for the nexcare tip - that looks like a good one! I might just invest in it!

birds and blue this is the best explanation I've found on how to do the exercises and what they are. It is fairly comprehensive!
www.nct.org.uk/pregnancy/pelvic-floor-exercises-during-and-after-pregnancy

NerdyBird Wed 11-Dec-13 13:10:58

I have a question about paracetamol. Can I just take it? It says online to ask your doctor, but do I really? Seems like a waste of time to me. I've a headache that isn't really shifting and it looks like paracetamol is the only thing I could take.

Have a little nausea back today, but feeling less than great in general. Really hoping a cold isn't on it's way, I've two parties to go to tomorrow and friday.

kjh5 Wed 11-Dec-13 13:18:58

Nerdy I've been slugging paracetamol the whole way through this pregnancy. It is perfectly safe to take in the normal dosage, just try not overdo it. I was advised to take the paracetamol-only tablets (not the 'extra' ones which might contain caffeine or asprin). Boots do a paracetamol only tablet or I take the blue panadol ones. I find taking two usually cures me of my headaches. Hope you feel better soon!

fedupofrainydays Wed 11-Dec-13 14:10:20

I had paracetamol on a drip into my arm in hospital so I'm sure it's ok! But as kj says - just the plain one.

They also say to take it in labour (not that it helps much then!)

NerdyBird Wed 11-Dec-13 14:23:13

Thanks ladies. Will take some if it doesn't go by the end of the day.

fedup how are you doing today?

Pentagon Wed 11-Dec-13 15:09:33

fedup I'm so sorry thanks I know TTC again seems far too scary at the moment but give yourself a break, grieve as much as you need to and you will feel ready again in due course. All the best for next time!

ickle being in limbo is horrible but there's a good chance everything is OK and it's just too early. Try to keep yourself busy until the next scan - good luck!

Congratulations on the good scan news over & me

welcome scone!

medusa great news and yay for team blue!

birds I would be equally outraged with DH! With both my MMCs I was in mourning for a good 3-4 months... DH was upset but nothing compared to how I felt. He understood and respected how I felt though and thankfully we never fought over it

christine you sound so organised!

choc, DIY, black and santa so close now, how exciting!

kjh you have your 20-week scan on Friday if I remember well? I'm out and about pretty much all day tomorrow so if I don't go online, all the best! I know you're stressed (so was I just before my scan) but I'm sure everything will be OK

hi to everyone else!

fedupofrainydays Wed 11-Dec-13 15:51:22

Hi ladies. So I am definately leaving you now. EPU rang to confirm mc. Hcg down to 97. So ectopic unlikely and I should expect the pain and bleeding to kick in a week or two.
Hope you all go on to have healthy babies and than you for all the kind thoughts and support.
Not sure when I will be able to cope with ttc again but will see how we go

Xx

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Wed 11-Dec-13 15:57:44

I'm so sorry FedUp. I suppose if there is one positive in this, it wasn't ectopic. It could have been far worse and you still have everything in the right place. I'm not going to say anything clichéd, we've all had MC before and we all know how shit it is. sad Just look after yourself. xxxxx

icklemssunshine Wed 11-Dec-13 16:38:31

fedup I'm so sorry. Big hugs x

kjh5 Wed 11-Dec-13 16:49:01

Ah Fedup I'm so so sorry. I have no doubt you'll be back here soon. I hope you're being looked after - hugs x

Thanks Pentagon despite the fact that last week I was a bit of an hysterical mess about it I'm now feeling rather calm and today I was actually excited at the prospect of finding out whether it's a girl or boy, so here's hoping all this posifrickintivity lasts through the next 36 hours!

Louzul Wed 11-Dec-13 17:36:53

OhFedUp I am so sorry. There is no rush to do anything you don't feel ready for. Hope you have lots of support IRL as well. Hugs.thanks

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BirdsDoIt Wed 11-Dec-13 18:28:46

I'm so sorry fedup. Take lots of time and take good care of yourself x

BirdsDoIt Wed 11-Dec-13 18:37:08

pentagon thanks - it was just such a weird conversation - like I had to rationalise or justify the way I felt! I think he's anxious I'm going to keep being upset about the mmc indefinitely - but saying it was a sad thing and this is how I felt (and feel) about it, doesn't mean I'm never going to be able to move on! Baffling. Anyway.

saggy thanks for the maternity belt suggestion - I will definitely check that out - and kjh for the pelvic floor exercises link! Glamorama.

kjh ooh 20 week scan on Friday! Glad you're feeling excited about it x

Pixielady83 Wed 11-Dec-13 18:50:35

so sorry fedup hope you get a chance to rest and recover over the next few weeks and get plenty of looking after xxx

Sconeintheoven Wed 11-Dec-13 20:13:47

Really sorry, * Fedup*, having it confirmed is a grim and sobering moment. Thank goodness not ectopic but I'm sure you're not really feeling much comfort from that right now. Be gentle with yourself x

Sconeintheoven Wed 11-Dec-13 20:18:26

Had my scan today at 7 weeks. Saw the heart beat and baby measuring 6 weeks 3 days, which given I'm a late ovulator, I gather makes discrepancy nothing to worry about.
Massive relief, albeit temporary. Celebrated by promptly throwing up violently out of car window on way back from hospital. Good times.

Pixielady83 Wed 11-Dec-13 20:48:44

great scan news scone although not so great on the vom front wink

so baby pixie, having previously been beautifully head down, has now been breech for last week. DD was breech from this stage onwards and never turned. I have tried hanging off the sofa upside down and hands and knees but both make my hips and pelvis kill. DH thinks I should just accept things rather than risk triggering worse episode of spd and ending up on crutches again. I feel guilty for not trying harder to get baby to shift though. And a bit sad that I might not get to try vbac delivery. I know this sounds melodramatic as only 28wks and plenty of babies do turn after this point but my previous experience suggests otherwise. What do you think ladies, risk worse SPD but maybe turn baby or just accept and see what happens. One good thing is that I am still managing to walk places which is more than I was able to in last pregnancy by this point and think that goes some way to helping position... <clutching at straws>

ChristineDaae Wed 11-Dec-13 21:42:53

Right, I'm cheating, reading on my iPad and typing on my phone to try and keep up!

MeDoing - congrats on the good scan
Blue - cramping is normal, I had some awful cramps early on but all was fine.
Kjh - thanks for the pelvic floor info, hoping that helps this stupid PGP! And good luck with the scan on friday, Hopefully your little one will cooperate and not cross their legs!
Scone - congrats on the good scan and the throwing up wink
Pixie - it's a hard one. As you say though baby has plenty of time to turn. Be careful, the last thing you want is to be on crutches with a DD to run round after!
Fedup - so sorry to see you go. Look after yourself and give yourself time.

Had the midwife today, still measuring 3 weeks ahead so next week il have a 'full term' (37wk) size bump with still 6 weeks to go!

blueskies19 Wed 11-Dec-13 23:38:31

so sorry fedup - sending you lots of hugs xxx

Chocolateteabag Thu 12-Dec-13 00:09:18

Really sorry Fed-up hope everything is sorted out soon for you and you can concentrate on recovering.

Pixie - I would just let baby pix be - will turn if it wants to, and won't if not. Mine was transverse at 28 weeks so read up about baby spinning and ECV's - even if they do turn, they can always turn back.

I'm still here, baby CTB is still pretty active and showing no "signs" of getting ready to come out. This is according to my mum who reckons he should stop kicking me and I "should" start to get more lower down pain. Supposed to be taking Ds to a soft play tomorrow morning so no doubt I will start my labour during the night grin

Chocolateteabag Thu 12-Dec-13 00:26:54

Oh meant to say - if anyone feels like they are getting a head cold/sinusitis - then I massively recommend getting a NeilMed Sinus Rinse from Amazon. Basically a bottle to which you add saline(salt) and water and squirt up one nostril and out the other.

It has stopped 2-3 sniffles developing this time round so far and I havn't had a sinusitis attack since getting it. Washes loads of gunk out of your nose which I find satisfying in a very weird way and when you can't take anything more than paracetamol, you'll try anything grin

icklemssunshine Thu 12-Dec-13 07:10:58

Congratulations scone, wonderful news. Hope I get to see same at my scan next week. I'll be 6+6 then according to my OV date.

3rd day of nausea and all I want to do is eat even thought I don't feel like eating - know that doesn't make sense! I remember putting on nearly a stone with DD in first trimester as felt so sick I just ate super noodles 24/7 with heaps if toast! Am trying to take the nausea as a good sign but now I'm wondering whether I've convinced myself into feeling it and it's psychosomatic!!

blueskies19 Thu 12-Dec-13 09:09:44

I know exactly what you mean ickle - Im the same dates as you I think and Im feeling waves of nausea although not entirely sure if Im just willing it to be there for some reassurance

I think Im more feeling just a lack of interest in eating anything - normally I have a very healthy appetite and love my food but now no food interests me at all and its a struggle to eat anything at all - is this normal??
I think my sickness is a bit pyschosomatic as Ive never felt like throwing up just very very uninterested in eating anything which is totally unlike me

Im going for my first scan next week and am petrified sad

pgchimp Thu 12-Dec-13 09:53:07

ickle and blueskies, in my limited experience, your attitude to food is completely normal. I am 14 weeks and last night I cooked a whole meal that I really fancied and then by the time I sat down to eat it, I didn't fancy it at all!

I am feeling very sorry for myself today as have cystitis, a really nasty cough and cold and have occasional pains in my tummy (which I am trying not to panic about, it is probably indigestion!)

blueskies19 Thu 12-Dec-13 10:21:15

thanks for the food reassurance pgchimp - I do hope you feel better soon - poor you

I am REALLY panicking as Ive very madly!! (I know I shouldn't be doing this!) but have been doing the HPTs every day just to check that Im still pg - I know this is a crazy thing but I just want to keep checking the line gets darker

Up until two days ago the line was not getting darker but just staying the same colour

Im really panicking as Ive been testing every day with FMU and for the last two days the line has definitely got lighter with the line today being really really faint sad I am absolutely devastated and really unhappy as I am so worried about this not going well

I am feeling slightly sick which is a good sign I guess but I am absolutely heartbroken to see the line get fainter - all the tests were done with the same brand of internet tests and all with FMU at the same time so this is surely not a good sign sad

really really panicking and any reassurance would be greatly appreciated

icklemssunshine Thu 12-Dec-13 11:19:00

blueskies I haven't had any experience with this as with DD I only tested once, with the MMC twice (when I found out I was pg & then to check all hormones were fine after ERPC) and twice with this pg - a CB digi 1 weeks apart. I'm not testing anymore, the scan will tell me all I need to know next week. I would leave the testing and just listen to your body. It's difficult I know, I keep comparing how unfeeling now to the 6 weeks mark with DD and the MMC & it's sending me crazy! DH said to me last night "what will be will be" and by analysing every detail every day til the scan will only make me feel bad every day, we can't change the outcome by worrying and yes, if the scan still shows nothing next week, we'll be devastated, but in the meantime we don't know anything so we've just got to try and relax. Easier said than done I know!

icklemssunshine Thu 12-Dec-13 11:19:33

*gone not fine

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SaggyOldClothCatPuss Thu 12-Dec-13 12:18:32

Blue STOP. You will drive yourself insane. To be brutal, Either you are PG or you arent and only time will tell. No amount of PG tests will change the outcome and all you are doing is messing with your own head. All you can do is stood and wait.
To be kind, we have all been there lovey. Honestly. We all stress every minute of every day, at 27 weeks still knicker check EVERY time I pee, and if she doesn't move on demand I panic, blush But there's a long slog ahead, and life goes on. Try and distract yourself if you can. We are all here for you. xx

Sconeintheoven Thu 12-Dec-13 12:19:29

Blueskies I completely echo what Kat said. These tests really are where madness lies. Different batches can have different comcentrations of dye and yes, after a certain point in pregnancy (hazy about when exactly but 6 weeks sounds about right) they are not good at measuring the quantity of HCG. If you are seriously worried then you could go to your doctor and ask for Beta blood test to check HCG levels are doubling every 48 hours or so, but really at this stage I think it is best to hold on for a scan - although I would try to resist before 6 weeks as unlikely to see heartbeat - I forget how many weeks you are exactly. But really, these tests are the work of the devil, please stop now.
Ickle a general apathy towards food and not being able yo work out what I wanted was how I felt initially. Now into the full blown most waking minutes of every day nausea.

kjh5 Thu 12-Dec-13 12:36:06

Blueskies, kat and saggy are absolutely correct, pregnancy tests tell you nothing at this point. You just need to hang tight until your first scan. I had mine at 7+1 at EPU due to some bleeding concerns and saw a strong heartbeat. The general consensus on here is to try and hold out until 8 weeks if you can. That is just two weeks away. You should try and do something to distract yourself. Every single week you get through pushes the statistics more and more in your favour. Today you are pregnant. You are in this for the long haul, the first trimester is definitely the worst but the second and third come with their own challenges and you don't want to exhaust yourself with stress now!

Needless to say I am now absolutely bricking it about my scan tomorrow. Not helped by all the excited texts I am getting from family and friends - they all can't wait to find out if its a boy or a girl and no one can understand why I won't tell them what time the scan is (I've said its in the morning) or why I am so damn nervous about it.

Everything is going to be ok right? The baby is moving around loads - surely this is a good sign? I can feel it all day at least every 3-4hours and this morning it was kicking up a storm - so much so that for the first time I could feel the kicks externally. I can't wait for DH to feel them, I might wake him up when I get home from work tonight if the bubba is really active.

blueskies19 Thu 12-Dec-13 13:12:22

ahw thanks so much everyone - I know that Im a silly billy for testing - I stupidly bought loads of tests and was so amazed to see when I got my first bfp a few weeks ago that I wanted to test everyday and see that line increase in colour and was devastated to see it fade

I will put the tests away and try and wait till my scan - Im 6 weeks now and have a scan next week due to my previous experiences I have been asked to go in then

All your advice sounds good and for me Im just going to try and make it through one day at a time and every day I can get through is a bonus

On the plus side I am feeling sick every day - just a very mild nausea and not really wanting any food so I guess that has to be a positive - may go to the gps and ask for a beta test - they haven't been too helpful and I guess some will let you have a hcg test and others not but being such a mass worrier it may be a good thing to do if I can organise this

thanks so much everyone for all your wise words and support

fingers crossed for your scan kjh5 - I really hope that it goes well tomorrow
ickle - I have my fingers crossed that it goes well for your scan too - I will also try and relax as this is the best thing to do at this stage
thanks saggy, scone and kat - that's all good advice - this is such a stressful experience and I really don't want to make it any worse and this testing is the most stressful thing so I will definitely stop doing them

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Thu 12-Dec-13 13:15:00

Do you have lots of tests left? Could you maybe offer to post them to someone on the TTC thread? Get them out of the house?

Pixielady83 Thu 12-Dec-13 14:41:28

good luck kjh excited to hear what you are having!

ladies who are just 'off' food this is how my ms always starts! good sign grin

blueskies19 Thu 12-Dec-13 15:05:38

good point saggy - best place for them to be out of the house - keep very sadly looking at the faded hardly there lines compared to the strong lines before and its heartbreaking

pleased that being "off" food is a good sign - thanks Pixie - I was one and I think ickle too - Ive been off my food for the last two days - Im now only today able to eat absolute rubbish which is totally unlike me as Im normally very healthy but the only food I can stomach and eat is white (haven't had that since I was a kid!) toast with ALOT of very unhealthy butter and crisps - my nutrition has gone out the window but its either eat total rubbish or nothing at all so I figure something is better than nothing

having a lot of cramping and quite intense lower back pain too now - a little bit well alot worrying with the faint test lines this morning that is not good sad

Pixielady83 Thu 12-Dec-13 15:37:11

lower back pain and cramping could well the pregnancy bedding in blue I had bad lower back ache with my first pregnancy, well before any of sore boobs etc. I'm with you on the stodge, I went back onto food in my second trimester but now I'm bigger I just really want pie. or Macdonalds or turkey sandwiches. And I'm a vegetarian blush

If you can put your feet up and have a rest this pm do so and hopefully cramps will ease off but do try to think positively, your uterus has a lot of stretching and lining to do to get your bean comfy xx

Pixielady83 Thu 12-Dec-13 15:41:08

christine and choc forgot to say thanks for your thoughts on position. Trying to allow myself to take a more accepting stance of c section. Although knowing my luck I'll plan for a section, then baby will turn and I'll be thrown into vbac without a chance to emotionally prepare myself. I have such a skewed attitude to all of this, even though I should have learnt from last time that it really really doesn't matter as long as there is a healthy baby at the end (and the mc should have reinforced this) I still want to do 'well' and have a good birth. As if I'll get a flipping girl guide badge at the end of it(!) must refocus priorities!!!

christine hope your hips and pelvis are feeling better now you're off work?

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Thu 12-Dec-13 16:09:19

My MS only consisted of being nauseous and off my food. And I only ate white food for weeks! Bread, potatoes, cheese...
These are all good signs. smile

blueskies19 Thu 12-Dec-13 20:11:22

thanks so much pixie and saggy - reassuring to hear my consumption of white carbs is a good sign smile
bring on the white toast, butter and cream cheese - Ive not consumed any fruit or veg which can't be good but figure some food is better than none!

thanks for confirming about lower back pain - reassuring to hear that too - phew smile

Mabelandrose Thu 12-Dec-13 20:15:37

Please can I join - very early days for me. Mmc and ERPC in September. Must only be 4 weeks now. A long wait ahead.

icklemssunshine Thu 12-Dec-13 20:37:12

What is it with those white carbs? I've eaten a plate of crumpets for tea!

Welcome mabel. I'm 6 weeks today and would've gone crazy these last 2 weeks without this thread!

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Thu 12-Dec-13 21:10:48

In fact, I have a confession to make. I still fancy loads of white carbs. sad The mere thought of a vegetable turns my stomach! blush confused

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Thu 12-Dec-13 21:11:22

Welcome Mabel.

Angloamerican Thu 12-Dec-13 21:37:46

blueskies I normally eat quite well (try to follow the principles of the Paleo plan where I can) but for the entire first trimester I craved white, processed carbohydrates. I don't think I ate a vegetable or a piece of fruit in that entire time...

Penguinita Thu 12-Dec-13 22:17:54

Welcome mabel, congratulations on your bfp, hope this thread can help you get through those nerve-wracking first few weeks.

I think a love of beige food is very common in the first trimester! Just at the time when all the advice is to eat lots of fruit and veg too.

I have my 16 week midwife appointment tomorrow where I will get to find out all my blood test results in detail, brilliant, I love medical stats grin Hopefully I'll also get a chance to listen to Pingu's heartbeat.

I got some some of reassurance about my potential redundancy at a HR maternity Q&A session this week. They wouldn't definitively say that those on mat leave would not get made redundant earlier (the amount of HR speak was driving us all crazy!) but they did say they wouldn't positively discriminate against us.

Best of luck to everyone with upcoming scans!

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Thu 12-Dec-13 22:57:14

Well, today I hit the third trimester and God has the third trimester hit me!
I've been feeling sick since yesterday, heartburn has arrived, the bottom of my bump hurts, I feel really stuffed and generally achey. sad
Combine that with the baby going bonkers in there, and feeling really weepy and im a mess!
I'm going to monitor the aches tomorrow and see how I feel. I might have a chat with a midwife. Its typical that I feel shit when I have to work! The Christmas rush starts tomorrow. sad

BirdsDoIt Fri 13-Dec-13 09:32:46

Oh saggy yay and not yay all at the same time! Hope you feel better rather than worse at the day goes on. I've been getting inexplicable weepy attacks and once I start I just can't stop - part of my brain can see how absurd it all is, while the rest of me is busy wailing!!

When does the third trimester officially start? I'm 24 weeks on Saturday and wondered how long I've got until then...yesterday I realised I couldn't bend over properly and the day before that I realised my belly button was starting to disappear!

kjh is your 20 week scan today? If so good luck! And penguinita hope your mw appt goes well.

Welcome mabel and other newbies. This is the best thread ever for support during those agonisingly slow first 12 weeks - and then all those that come after xx

BirdsDoIt Fri 13-Dec-13 09:35:00

And I'm totally with you all on the white/beige food. A bowl of pasta with just a bit of butter, olive oil, salt and pepper...mmm...plants face in pasta bowl...

alyant79 Fri 13-Dec-13 09:51:58

hello, tentatively sticking my foot in here. hope i'm not jinxing myself.

12/13 dpo today (which is late for me as my lp is usually 10 days) and a faint pos test on wednesday, another faint test (but a bit darker) today.
eeeek!!!!

fully convinced that it isn't going to end well, but excited to at least get a bfp, 10 long cycles after mmc...

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Fri 13-Dec-13 09:54:34

ALY!!!! hooray! grin grin grin

Birds 27 weeks according to my App. officially 13 weeks left but we could have only 10!! shock

MissMedusa Fri 13-Dec-13 09:56:26

Me too, I usually avoid carbs like the plague because I'm overweight and it seems like the only thing I have an appetite for. Fruit is ok and I try to force down some veg but meat is right out unless it's cut really small and hidden in a sauce. Strangely, I've been eating loads of things that are usually on my "no list" and I haven't put on any weight (at 17+3 although I'm sure it will start soon). I eat chocolate now, cake, chips, pizza, pasta all things I never allow myself to eat and weight has never been so stable. One thing I noticed though is that I get full quite quickly and I stop when I'm full. Before, I would never really get full signals and could carry on eating for as long as I liked. I also find that I'm either starving or full, I don't have that "meh, I'm not that hungry but I could eat" stage that I'm usually in.

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Yay aly so please you've got another BFP today smile keeping everything crossed for you and sending you lots of good luck xxx smile

alicebear Fri 13-Dec-13 10:30:05

Hello ladies can I rejoin you please? I said a brief hello here in July but only a few days later had my 2nd mc at about 7 wks. (had mmc in April)
I got my bfp in Oct but have been scared to tempt fate esp as I had a massive bleed at 5+3 but luckily things have worked out OK so far & I've just had my 12 wk scan & all looks fine & low risk. Have been using cyclogest & high dose folic acid. Very happy to have got this far but still can't relax. When did others start to feel more confident things might be ok?

Aly I remember you from the ttc thread so big congratulations & really hope this one sticks for you.

Fedup I'm so so sorry to hear what's happened to you. Hope you have lots of support through such a crappy time.

Over & ickle & blueskies I was where you are not so long ago & time crawls. Just try & take it a day at a time. I had 3 early scans because of the early bleed so never looked beyond the next scan.

Congratulations to all who've recently had their babies it is lovely to hear of the happy endings.

Saggy I also remember you from the ttc thread. Third trimester already - great news. Hope you start to feel better.

Can I just ask if anyone has been on cyclogest is it really fine to just stop at 12 wks? I'm scared to. I'm 12+4 and have dropped from 2 to 1 a day. Consultant said stop at 12 weeks - will it be OK?

Sorry for such a long rambling msg. I hope this time I don't have to disappear in a few days time!

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Fri 13-Dec-13 10:50:27

Only one difference between this and ttc is you have to step away from the tests now! <<casts a beady eye about>> grin

kjh5 Fri 13-Dec-13 11:32:14

Phew! Just had the scan and everything is fabulous! Thanks so so much (as usual) for all being so wonderfully supportive and just damn amazing grin grin grin. I have no idea what I would have done without you lot over the past five months.

We had a fabulous sonographer who talked us through everything he was doing and was just so wonderful and reassuring I wanted to hug him. AND we're having a boy! So I was totally wrong on the girl front. Although DH pointed out that whenever I have spoken about the baby I have always said 'him' and never once referred to 'her'. I have to admit, as soon as the bubba popped up on the screen I thought: 'it's a boy' followed by: 'ohshit what am I going to do with a boy?!' which is silly because its mostly just a baby when it is born!

I don't know what to do with myself now! I had a little cry when the sonographer told us it was a boy and I feel relieved but also realised it is now just a 19 week waiting game! I think I am waiting for the excitement to kick in but I mostly just feel a bit bewildered. I suppose DH and I could get shopping now, we haven't bought a single thing for the bubba yet smile

Welcome Mabel and Alice! And yay Aly - I remember you from the ttc thread, so happy you are all here. Today you are pregnant grin

GuffSmuggler Fri 13-Dec-13 11:40:08

Yay alyant!!! Fantastic to see you here grin Really hope this is the smoothest easiest pregnancy for you.

saggy third trimester has hit here with a vengeance too, I'm waddling, shuffling and lumbering around. I definitely wasn't like this with DS until much later, my body is obviously shot.

Fabulous news on the scan kjh boys are wonderful, mine was giving me such lovely cuddles in bed this morning it was heaven.

Welcome mabel and alice good to see you back here grin

MissMedusa Fri 13-Dec-13 12:01:28

Congratulations Alice and Alyant and welcome to the thread. Alice I'm a bit sceptical about going off progesterone at 12 weeks. Everything I've read says it's ok but all my incompetent cervix issues started I went off it at 14 weeks and now I'm back on because, ironically, progesterone suppositories are suppoed to help with cervix length. I was on a fairly high dose as well at 2x1 3 times a day (300mg I think) so that might have affected it as well. I think, sometimes if you supplement too much the body gets lazy and then doesn't produce enough on it's own. It may just be me and I likely would have had problems anyway so take it with a grain of salt but I did want to mention it. Maybe have your cervix length checked just in case.

Kjh5 congratulations on your scan, that all sounds very positive. I know exactly how you feel as I felt the same way when they told me I was having a boy. DH is over the moon as he can see his rugby dreams dancing before his eyes but I'm all dresses and makeup and girl things and have no idea what I'm going to do with a little boy. Don't they pee everywhere? ;-) I'm excited too though a boy will wonderful and while both sexes have their own issues to deal with, there are certain difficulties that we women all go through that he will never have to face and that makes me happy. Not to mention, relevant to this thread, he will never have to experience, first hand, what it is like to have a miscarriage and that I am glad of too. I did threaten DH that I may still buy some of those frilly bum tights that he can wear underneath his rugby jersey. He, in turn, threatened divorce.

ChristineDaae Fri 13-Dec-13 12:17:31

Mabel, Aly and Alice- congratulations on your BFPs. Alice so glad it's all going well this time!
Pixie, it's much better now thank you. Being signed off was definitely the right move.
Kjh - massive congratulations on the good scan! And a boy too. How lovely grin

Emki Fri 13-Dec-13 12:28:26

aly a huge congratulations! I'm so happy for you! I think of you so much and have been lurking on the TTC thread to see how everyone is doing - we're here to hold your hand!

I've been away for the last week or so - so busy at work and home, haven't quite caught up on everyone's news - only a brief look - but hope you have a good MW apt penguin mine is next Wednesday ... along with another reassurance scan - hope I'll feel more positive after the 20 wk scan- ...

Anyway will ready through the thread and catch up

Emki Fri 13-Dec-13 12:30:07

kjh5 excellent news! big hugs to you

Emki Fri 13-Dec-13 12:44:06

alicebear congratulations! I remember you from the TTC thread too. Well done on getting through the 12 wk scan. I'm 16 weeks now and still anxious but feel the best way is to take each day at a time. I also try to remember that the risk of mc is very low after 12wks. Whenever you feel you're freaking out then come on here and there will always be someone who can reassure you as they have been or are going through the same thing out to hold hand]]]]

Emki Fri 13-Dec-13 12:44:32

mable congratulations to you!

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Fri 13-Dec-13 13:21:50

Miss band KJH Boys rock! If I'd had a girl first, she'd be an only child! wink grin

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TeaAndANatter Fri 13-Dec-13 14:23:39

Congratulations and welcome to the new additions! How lovely to have so many new folks xxx

Chocolateteabag Fri 13-Dec-13 14:37:49

Great scan news everyone and vv happy to see new faces joining the thread - thanks congratulations on your BFP's!!

Miss and KJH - boys are great - just watch out for the weeing in your face - took me a few days to get the hang of that grin

Still here - still nothing happening (and really thought Friday the 13th would be it for me!) have collapsed on sofa with Ds to watch Cbeebies. Need to not let this be it for the day but I think that it is

ChristineDaae Fri 13-Dec-13 14:41:20

Chocolate, a day of cbeebies won't hurt! When are you due? I know it's soon or has it passed already?

alyant79 Fri 13-Dec-13 15:01:18

thanks for the warm welcome.
really feel very anxious and getting worse by the minute hour.

Mabelandrose Fri 13-Dec-13 15:15:39

Thank you for the lovely welcome. Trying not to think about being pregnant (as if that's possible) and just focus on Christmas.

Chocolateteabag Fri 13-Dec-13 15:22:42

Due on Monday (16th), have sneaking suspicion I'm getting a Christmas baby hmm
Ds has been at preschool this morning and we've made crispy cakes and jelly after lunch, so not too bad. May have to brave it outside for a little bit now though just to burn off some more energy (his - I have none!)

Be strong Aly - a BFP is a BFP,if it helps check out the HPT galleries on Fertility Friend website and obsess on mn grin

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Lieslvontrapp Fri 13-Dec-13 17:41:56

Hi alyant I remember you from the ttc thread! So pleased you've got your bfp!

Welcome back alice! 12 wks already is great,

Welcome mabel and any other newbies I've not said hello to.

Kjh5 great scan news and lovely that you're having a boy!

Chocolate not long until your due date. Things could kick off anytime - how exciting!

Penguinita Fri 13-Dec-13 18:11:57

Oh I'm so EXCITED at all this wonderful news today!

Big welcome hugs to alyant and alicebear, I remember you both from the TTC board, so good to have you with us. Hoorah for Christmas BFPs (and good luck with secretly avoiding alcohol over the next few weeks, eek) ! grin

And great news on the scan kjh, hope you got some lovely pics of your little boy.

My midwife appointment was a bit of a mixed bag. The main thing is I got to listen to baby's heartbeat and she said it was good and strong, so all good there smile. But it was a midwife I hadn't had before and she was a bit scatty, waffling on about all sorts, so much that I forgot to tell her about my pelvic pains. And when I got home I found she had put someone else's blood test results in my notes along with mine. Also, my Downs syndrome risk is 1 in 500, which I know is low, but I was expecting it to be a bit lower given my small NT measurement. Small things, I know. I just hope I get a different midwife next time!

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Bakingtins Fri 13-Dec-13 19:22:19

Welcome to mabel alice and aly and congratulations all round!

KJH good news! My DS2 wants a yellow princess dress for Christmas so you may still get to indulge yourself with all things girls, but boys are fab.

alice I was on progesterone (plus steroids and clexane) and stopped at 12 weeks. It was a bit nerve wracking but has been ok. The placenta should be producing enough by then. I haven't had any incompetent cervix issues in previous pregnancies so that wasn't a worry in my case.

Emki Fri 13-Dec-13 19:44:40

penguin its so hard when everything does go exactly how you want - but the wrong bloods it pretty rubbish ... have you called up the hospital?
But its good news! strong heart beat and a low risk downs result!

I felt rubbish after my 12 wk scan because the sonographer and no personality at all - not particularly reassuring considering my past and also the baby wasn't in a good position to get a picture - so I felt totally empty - however you heard a good strong heart beat - that is the only thing that really matters, hold on to that and not the rubbish stuff must do the same

Emki Fri 13-Dec-13 20:46:44

sorry quite a few typos! I meant 'its hard when things DON'T go exactly as wanted' - there's some more mistakes too - hope you can muster through - long week! x

ChristineDaae Fri 13-Dec-13 21:11:41

Penguin, sorry about the rubbish midwife!

Horrible news here - my nephews mum (brothers ex) had a MC with twins a few months ago. She has just called from hospital, she had an ectopic and they have had to remove a tube. Feel so bad for her sad

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Fri 13-Dec-13 22:23:23

I was just thinking, wasn't it CBeebies who was worried she was going into very early labour? Anyone heard from her? You out there CBeebies? are you ok?

Pentagon Sat 14-Dec-13 00:01:16

kjh wonderful news! Congratulations and yay for team blue! You can now relax, enjoy the rest of your pregnancy and start shopping for the baby! grin scone also congratulations on your good scan! aly, alice and mabel welcome and congratulations! All the best for your pregnancies! pixie I think the baby still has plenty of room at 28 weeks so try not to stress too much (easier said than done, I know!)

Pentagon Sat 14-Dec-13 00:07:39

I forgot to say congratz to penguin! and choc almost there, how exciting! I was convinced I would be at least a week late (if I were a gambler, I would have bet money - I was that certain!) and ended up being 5 days early. So you never know! indeed, where is cbeebies?

Penguinita Sat 14-Dec-13 06:40:32

Lol emki, hope you got some brew and an early night to get over your long week! Wishing you all the best for your scan next week, it must be a very anxious time for you.

Can I ask if you have felt any movement yet? I had a weird sensation a couple of times when I was 14 weeks, but nothing since. But it is my first one, so it will probably take longer.

Not heard much from our due date buddy emberlina recently, hope that means all is well.

christine that is very sad news about your nephews mum sad

I'm going to mothercare today to buy a Christmas present for a friend's newborn. Must... Resist... Buying... Everything...

kjh5 Sat 14-Dec-13 08:45:08

penguin I first felt identifiable kicks at 17+6. However, everyone I have spoken to says this is quite early for a first baby. I think a lot is dependent on where the baby and placenta are in your womb. I have a posterior placenta and the bubba sits quite far forward which is why I think I felt him so early. I now feel kicks every 2 hours or so and lots of other movement all day. However a friend of mine didn't start feeling anything with her little boy until 22 weeks and then it was only every second day or so to begin with. So it varies from person to person but I will say that when the little blighter isn't keeping you up all night by having a little dance party on your stomach it's a wonderful feeling! Happy shopping! I went into baby Gap yesterday and bought some little vests for our boy (still feels surreal saying that) but managed to be restrained!

Christine that is such sad news sad I think we take stuff like this harder than most because we know how it feels!

Hope all the newbies are doing ok - try not to panic too much, the early days are the worst but you'll get through them!