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8+1 creamy light brown discharge......terrified, advice please?

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DitsyDonkey Sat 16-Nov-13 13:29:59

So I just went to the toilet and when I wiped I got some creamy light brown discharge.

I'm terrified that I am going to miscarry. I have pcos and have been ttc for two and a half years.

I don't have any pain or cramping. Not many pregnancy symptoms except sore boobs and creamy white discharge up to now!

tracypenisbeaker Sat 16-Nov-13 13:37:14

Do you have someone there for moral support? Bleeding can be fairly common in early pregnancy, I had some mild spotting from time to time. The fact that you aren't cramping is a good sign I'm sure.

Someone with more experience will be along with more practical advice, I didn't want to read and run and wanted to bump your thread x

whereisthewitch Sat 16-Nov-13 13:43:08

Unless it's bright red and you have pain please don't worry. It could be old implantation bleeding, just take it easy today.

tracypenisbeaker Sat 16-Nov-13 14:46:05

Bumping again. How are you feeling? Have you got someone with you?

Handbagsonnhold Sat 16-Nov-13 14:49:19

Op I had the same from around 7-9 weeks its was more like brown stringy stuff (sorry if tmi) was told not to worry and it's now gone. Hope all ok x

DitsyDonkey Sat 16-Nov-13 15:33:33

Thanks for the responses. There has only been a tiny bit since as if it is trailing off, it was snotty very light brown like the very start of AF but even lighter in colour.

Still no pains. Though this morning I was getting up from kneeling on the floor and got up too fast and at an awkward angle and hurt myself in my previous c section scar it felt like a pulled muscle. I am wondering if that caused it.

I just feel so down, I can't face ttc again if this doesn't work out. I just wish today was over so I could find out if it will get better or worse.

I have a scan coming up on Thursday, if I make it tat long. sad

DitsyDonkey Sat 16-Nov-13 16:39:17

It's starting to turn into pink blood. Still no cramps though!

What will I do......

I thought it was finished but went to toilet and there is a little pink of pink.

I don't like where this is going.

I think I'm going to loose it. sad sad

ClearlyMoo Sat 16-Nov-13 16:48:55

Can you go and get checked out? Try phoning NHS direct?!

I had brown stringy stuff at 5+5, which scared the crap out of me. The GP surgery nurse told me (rather in uncompassionately) to bide my time.

Thankfully it stopped within 5 hrs and I've had no more.

When I saw GP the next day (happened to have appointment booked thankfully) he enquiries whether we'd had sex the day of the spotting. We had. Well the night before.
Apparently in pregnancy you can have a friable cervix which can bleed when damaged / knocked (apparently DtD will do that).

It might be that... But please get checked out or you'll go crazy

Big love x

stoopstofolly Sat 16-Nov-13 16:59:39

This happened to me 3 times early in my last pregnancy (DS born safely!) Scared the life out of me though/ I also have PCOS and had just had an operation to fix Ashermans (after TTC for 4 years!). It was just a bit of breakthrough bleeding- lovely nurse in the Early Pregnancy Unit was great and gave me a scan each time! Is there an EPU in your hospital you could go to?

Viviennemary Sat 16-Nov-13 17:01:09

I was told if it's bright red then worry. If not that's not that uncommon.

Writerwannabe83 Sat 16-Nov-13 17:42:59

I also had smooth caramel coloured discharge in the early weeks - it was very bizarre. I also had some spotting (pink and brown) at 7 weeks and again at 10 weeks but the baby was absolutely fine on both occasions. How heavy is it? Are you requiring liners or is it just when you wipe?

DitsyDonkey Sat 16-Nov-13 18:41:20

I rang the hospital and was told to come up to maternity ward. So waiting here now to be seen and am terrified. Can hear women screaming all over!

lastnightopenedmyeyes Sat 16-Nov-13 18:43:27

OP I had the exact same thing at 6 weeks and was petrified as I'd had a MC 3 months previously (although when I had the mc it was definite blood and not the beige creamy discharge).

Anyway, in my case all was well and I'm now 30 weeks pregnant. Hope they can reassure you and that all is well.

MrsSpencerReid Sat 16-Nov-13 18:45:40

Thinking of you

spiderlight Sat 16-Nov-13 18:50:13

Thinking of you. Keeping my fingers crossed.

CunfuddledAlways Sat 16-Nov-13 18:50:47

hoping it goes well for you

MrsMargoLeadbetter Sat 16-Nov-13 18:55:56

Oh OP, really feel for you. Hope it is good news.

I have PCOS and had bleeding like yours on and off during the first trimester during both pregnancies.

Fingers crossed.

DitsyDonkey Sat 16-Nov-13 19:09:12

I'm just waiting now to go in for the scan I'm terrified.

I guess I will know the outcome shortly.

But they keep coming and asking about how much I'm bleeding in front of everyone in the waiting room, so I'm mortified!

MrsMargoLeadbetter Sat 16-Nov-13 19:31:46

That isn't very sensitive of the staff...

Try not to think about the other people there. Assumedly they are there for similar reasons.

A short while and "you'll know", which should be better than dreading and not knowing.

Have everything crossed for you.

Writerwannabe83 Sat 16-Nov-13 19:31:49

Good luck, my fingers are crossed for you x

SoonToBeSix Sat 16-Nov-13 19:36:06

Thinking of you x

I had brown discharge / spotting several times in the first 3 months of pregnancy, dd is now 10 months. Good luck smile

qazxc Sat 16-Nov-13 19:39:24

No advice , but just wanted to say i'm thinking of you and hope you're ok.

stickysausages Sat 16-Nov-13 19:48:49

Hope all is ok x

DitsyDonkey Sat 16-Nov-13 21:26:42

Well they performed a transvaginal scan and they could not see anything at all. They said that it could be one of three things....

The pregnancy didnt develop
It's too early
Or that it was simply their lack of ability doing the scan as its not their area or something.

So they took blood and will ring me in the morning with the result.

But it is not looking good is it? They should be able to see something on the scan at 8 weeks, especially when it is transvaginal??

I'm just trying to accept that there is no hop. I'm devastated, we were trying for such a long time I just can't imagine going through all that again. My heart is in pieces.

Cybercat Sat 16-Nov-13 21:32:30

Please don't lose hope yet. If you ovulated later than you realised (and other factors) then your dates could be out by a week or two. They probably arent as experienced as the early pregnancy unit nurses are so dont think the worst yet - I know thats easy for me to say x

Sammc1878 Sat 16-Nov-13 21:40:22

Just wanted to say I hope it is too early and that's why they couldn't see anything on the scan
Sending you big hug - I hope all turns out ok xx

stickysausages Sat 16-Nov-13 21:44:06

Please don't lose hope yet, it took 3 scans to see DS... My cycles are long & I wasn't as far on as they kept telling me I should have been!

DitsyDonkey Sat 16-Nov-13 21:55:00

Thank you for your support! I will update in the morning when the ring with the blood test results!

DitsyDonkey Sun 17-Nov-13 10:27:51

UPDATE!!!

Well I just got a phone call from the hospital, and the said my blood test came back positive with very high levels of hcg. So I am just so confused. I feel like I spent the night grieving and just wanted the phone call to confirm the loss.

I can't believe it, I know I'm most certainly not out of the woods yet as surely if their was something to see even the most inexperienced doctor would have picked it up on the scan, they spent ages looking. They also checked for ectopic btw.

I'm to ring in the morning for an appointment in the early pregnancy clinic.

Have any of you had experience like this with a positive outcome? X

tracypenisbeaker Sun 17-Nov-13 10:45:59

Like I said before, I had mild spotting but mine was accompanied by some cramping, which made me call my GP.. Over the phone, after telling her my symptoms, she told me that it was 'highly likely the pregnancy isn't viable.' She booked me in for an appointment the next day.

Thankfully, the next day, I spoke to a GP who didn't jump the gun as much and went to the trouble of phoning the early pregnancy centre, and they told me that as long as I wasn't in severe, continuous pain on one side and there was no clotting, there was no reason to worry for the time being as light bleeding (implantation) and cramping (your body adjusting) was very normal. I had managed to convince myself I was MC or having an ectopic pregnancy but it was so nice just to be reassured. I am currently 37+5.

The high HCG levels is a good sign- it is probably just too early to see baby on the scan. Are you 100% sure of dates? Are you fairly regular re ovulation and periods?

DitsyDonkey Sun 17-Nov-13 11:11:05

I'm not generally very regular and don't ovulate on my own so as I was on clomid I know when I ovulated as I could feel it.

MrsMargoLeadbetter Sun 17-Nov-13 15:53:22

Good to hear your update.

It sounds like a poor scan or it is too early to see.

Fingers crossed a EPU scan shows the baby.

Try not to stress.

DitsyDonkey Sun 17-Nov-13 16:16:46

I have myself convinced that it is ectopic now. I need to step away from dr. Google.

I have had some weird dark brown super think stretchy mucous coming out it is nearly like very stretchy phlem but so glue like it will stretch but not really break.

MissMedusa Sun 17-Nov-13 16:25:40

Did they tell you how high the hcg levels are? Have you been feeling any one-sided pain?

A transvaginal scan should be able to pick up at least a sac at around 5 weeks. Definitely try to get an appointment with the EPU as soon as possible. You may well just be really early on but if it is ectopic you want to take care of that as soon as you can.

tracypenisbeaker Sun 17-Nov-13 16:26:48

If you must Google, then try to stick to reputable websites like the NHS. On there it says that ectopic pregnancies usually involve a pain on one side, which you haven't mentioned.

I hope you're okay, please try to be kind to yourself. Nature will take its course no matter what you do so there is no point torturing yourself until you get to the early pregnancy centre and find out what is what thanks x

DitsyDonkey Sun 17-Nov-13 16:30:35

No I'm not getting pain or any shoulder pain. I am in high alert for ny pain. They told me to one immediately n if I get cramps or heavy bleeding, I have a feeling that they think it may be ectopic also.

I am showered and ready to go if anything changes. I never thought time old go by so slowly.

Thank you for your advice!

ControlGeek Sun 17-Nov-13 19:21:00

So pleased about your blood test results. I just wanted to say that I've had a gynae consultant miss a 4cmx6cm fibroid and a 4cmx3cm endometrioma whilst doing a tv scan to investigate infertility. Total rubbish! If you can miss something that like, I'm sure an inexperienced scanner could miss an embryo at 8 weeks. Wishing you the very best of luck, and hope this works out well for you thanks

ControlGeek Sun 17-Nov-13 19:21:44

Oh, just remembered, he also missed 'classic' PCOS ovaries, too!

beata13 Sun 17-Nov-13 23:09:43

Hi there, I don't want to scare u, but I had similar on Wednesday afternoon, today is Sunday and its gone. Was 8+5. Very planned and and very expected. On Wednesday evening i've seen a doctor who didn't do a scan or anything, just asked questions and after said nit to worry. It's common that early on. Thursday morning as soon as I got up from bed I started bleeding. Heavy bleeding 3 hours later, had scan in epu and went home. Friday morning it happened. I've lost my angel. If I would go to polish private clinic I might have still be pregnant. I heard they prescribe some drugs to stop bleeding.

lastnightopenedmyeyes Mon 18-Nov-13 06:55:52

Beata I'm so sorry for your loss. I have suffered an early miscarriage myself this year. I just had to respond though to assure you, and anyone else reading who has any doubts, that nobody can prevent a miscarriage - regardless of how much money you spend or how fancy the clinic. There's nothing anyone can do if the pregnancy is not viable.
Look after yourself.

GillyBillyWilly Mon 18-Nov-13 07:10:25

Fingers crossed for you OP thanks

I think lastnight is right, there is sadly nothing that can be done to stop a miscarriage this early; I was told that it usually happens because the embryo wasnt viable. BUT if the pregnancy is ectopic then this does need urgent treatment.

Ps good luck op flowers

DitsyDonkey Mon 18-Nov-13 10:08:55

I'm in the early pregnancy unit. Though not feeling hopeful. I will update later. I think it could be a long wait!

beata13 Mon 18-Nov-13 10:10:54

Hope all goes well for u Ditsydonkey , whatever happened to me I wouldn't wish to anyone, not even an enemy.
Life's not fair, but that's just life.

beata13 Mon 18-Nov-13 10:19:52

Did u started trying again lastnightopenedmy ? Or how soon u think is ok to start trying again?
All doctors say different thing, I'm scared even thinking about it.
It just something I know my friend has done with this polish clinic, they weren't expensive, it's not about money, but the drugs they gave her made her son survive.
Don't get me wrong, but when u desperate u will try everything.

lizziekal Mon 18-Nov-13 10:56:43

I'll keep my fingers crossed for you DitsyDonkey.

Beata, your friend was probably given progesterone supplements which are prescribed for women undergoing fertility treatment or who have been diagnosed with luteal phase defect. Progesterone is essential for ensuring that the uterine lining is able to support early pregnancy and so in some countries if women experience spotting/bleeding in the first trimester, doctors will give them progesterone because it won't do any harm and in some (very rare) cases may do some good but it won't stop the 99.9%of early miscarriages from happening as general medical consensus is that naturally low progesterone levels are a consequence of a non-viable pregnancy (ie the embryo has chromosomal problems which are incompatible with survival). You are normally extremely fertile in the immediate months after a miscarriage - if it was a very early loss you can normally try again straight away, if intervention was needed they normally recommend waiting until you've had two normal periods xx

ChicaMomma Mon 18-Nov-13 10:59:41

beata13 miscarriages cannot be stopped- and a good % of them are chromozonally incompatible children and it's your bodies way of ending a life that would not be compatible outside of the womb- so this polish clinic you speak of sounds like it shoudl be put out of your mind tbh.

I know lots of people who have started trying after 1 normal cycle- so 4-6 weeks after a MC- and all been fine.

Ditsy i hope everything is ok. If it is you're really going to have to learn to think more positively if at all possible. I had almost 2 weeks of the kind of discharge you speak of and am now 10 weeks, so far so good. Hopefully you will be ok.

Writerwannabe83 Mon 18-Nov-13 11:03:18

Just caught up with the thread - good news about you blood results and I hope your appointment brings you further good news today x x

stickysausages Mon 18-Nov-13 11:27:19

Fingers crossed for you, as I said, it took 3 scans to see DS, first scan only showed thickening of the womb, not even a sac...

beata13 Mon 18-Nov-13 12:04:00

First crossing my fingers for u, Lizzi and Chica thanks for giving me hope.
Do u have any advice on how to deal with mc ? I can't stop crying, can't sleep, and bearly ate anything since Wednesday.

beata13 Mon 18-Nov-13 12:06:50

Ditsy keep thinking of you, hope is a good news.

DitsyDonkey Mon 18-Nov-13 13:17:28

Well I'm home....

I have a retroverted uterus which is why the other doctors couldn't see anything. So she could see the sac and the baby in it BUT it is only measuring 6 weeks (by my dates I'm 8+3 and pretty certain, that is dating since lmp).

Also she could not see any heartbeat, she said it was very difficult to see because of the retroverted uterus.

So I have to return in a week for another scan.

It's not looking good though is it?

stickysausages Mon 18-Nov-13 13:17:38

beats I'm so sorry for your loss sad

I had two losses before finally having my son, nothing will make you feel better right now... but cake & wine certainly numbed me slightly!

I really do believe that it was meant to be, our last miscarriage was further on & there appeared to be something wrong with the baby, along the neck or spine.. I'm actually thankful the pregnancy ended by itself, as I can't imagine having to perhaps have a termination much later on.

Please believe that nothing you did or didn't do caused this. Sadly it's nature's way. That doesn't make it any less sad or upsetting, but I now believe this.

Look after yourselves, you must nourish yourself & in time the good day's will outnumber the bad thanks

stickysausages Mon 18-Nov-13 13:19:56

I don't know what to say hun, your bloods were good & it might be too early still to see a heartbeat. My dates were so strange. You can ovulate later than normal. Hope the next scan comes quickly x

lizziekal Mon 18-Nov-13 13:48:31

Oh Ditsy, I'm sorry it wasn't better news. At least there was an explanation as to why they were unable to see anything on the first scan and it means that it's not ectopic. I'll keep everything crossed that somehow things look better next week. xx

DitsyDonkey Mon 18-Nov-13 13:50:45

It will be a long week. My hcg was 16,000 btw (at least I think that is what she said, there was a lot to take in)

I just feel so hopeless sad

Thank you all again for your support!

Writerwannabe83 Mon 18-Nov-13 13:53:14

I'm sorry you didn't have more definitive better news Ditsy but not all hope is lost - although you feeling like that is completely understandable. Pregnancy is a mysterious thing and just because yours isn't being 'textbook' that does mean it isn't going to flourish. Please don't give up yet x x

stickysausages Mon 18-Nov-13 13:54:26

Can they repeat your bloods? They should double every 48 hours in a normal pregnancy. Your progesterone should also have been/be checked

ShoeWhore Mon 18-Nov-13 13:54:38

Sorry the scan wasn't more conclusive for you ditsy - I know the waiting is agonising but hang on in there. Got everything crossed for a good scan next week for you.

tracypenisbeaker Mon 18-Nov-13 13:57:09

Ditsy we're here for you if you want to talk it through. thanks If there is a small possibility that your embryo could actually be 6 weeks, well that is something to certainly hold onto. I'm sure there are plenty of MNetters who will tell you that they were scanned too early to see a heartbeat and lost hope at that point, only to go on and have a viable pregnancy. The fact that you're bleeding oldish blood (evident by its brownish colour, as opposed to bright red) still sounds to me like implantation bleeding, so IMO you would have to be still fairly early on in your pregnancy. Of course, you could have a missed MC, however I don't think that the likelihood of this being the case for you is massively higher than anyone else, especially because there are 2 good possible explanations for the doctors being unable to see a heartbeat- it could be too early, or because of your retroverted uterus.

I'm not trying to force you to get your hopes up or anything, its just I managed to convince myself at every turn in my early pregnancy that I was losing it. Almost like it was too good to be true, iyswim? I don't have that much luck in other aspects of my life so I felt like it would just be typical to have my baby cruelly taken away. I think if there is a next time, I will try to chill a bit more as I feel I did myself more harm than good with the constant worrying. Whatever happens is beyond your control, if you'll excuse me for being blunt. You really need to be kind to yourself and surround yourself with a good support system x

lastnightopenedmyeyes Mon 18-Nov-13 16:15:31

Beata - I got pregnant 6 weeks after my miscarriage - I'm now almost 31 weeks.

OP it will be a long week. It's agonising - back in March I started bleeding but it took 8 days for it to be clear that it was a mc. Unfortunately nobody would see me, not a midwife, doctor or epu. My midwife said 'the epu will laugh me off the phone if I call them and tell them you're losing a small amount of blood each day'. I was told to just stay at home and wait. No blood tests and no scans. I am still very angry about how I was treated. With a toddler to look after it was just awful not knowing if I was losing my baby or not.

Anyway in my case it ended in miscarriage but I have to say the worst thing was the 8 days of waiting not knowing what was happening. I really do think there's hope for you, and I'm so pleased they are supporting you through it.

Take care and just rest as much as you can.

lastnightopenedmyeyes Mon 18-Nov-13 16:16:21

And beata I understand how desperate you feel, be kind to yourself and try again when you're ready x

biryani Mon 18-Nov-13 16:54:56

ditsy I bled at about 8 weeks. I didn't even know I was pg. All was fine, but I was terrified. Thinking of you with fingers crossed.

sophs37 Mon 18-Nov-13 17:07:47

hi ive been reading your post.i am so sorry for yr loss.i had exactly the same thing happern to me it started off with brownish discharge then a bit of pink blood went straight to the epu where they scanned me n said it looks like I have lost the baby. They classed it as a missed miscarriagesad it was such a horrible experience n it took me a while to take it all in. if u ever need anyone to talk to then just contact me. but on a bit of a positive note. I fell pregnant a month later n its all going well so u can try again n next time u will get yr georgeous baby. Take care n rest xx

SoonToBeSix Mon 18-Nov-13 17:50:05

Op you need you bloods taken again exactly 48 hours after your last test if they have doubled there is a very good chance the pregnancy is viable. I would insist on a blood test.

tracypenisbeaker Mon 18-Nov-13 17:55:01

sophs37 The OP hasn't actually had a confirmed loss yet.

tracypenisbeaker Mon 18-Nov-13 17:57:10

as yet, I should say.

beata13 Mon 18-Nov-13 18:06:37

Lastnightopened thanks again. The thing is while I was in epu I had my scan done and bcos it was my first scan they could not confirm whether it was mc it not. At that same moment I was passing big amount of blood and very big blood clots. Nobody looked at it-although I'm not sure if they do that, examined. They booked me in for another scan in 2 WEEKS TIME! How was I supposed to sit and wait 2 weeks? Never mind now. The thing is they didn't even took my blood, so how can they help if they don't have enough information about pregnant women body? Whether is missing some hormones, lutine, or anything else. Just hopeless at the time. And very angry for not even checking my blood

MissMedusa Mon 18-Nov-13 19:28:03

Ditsy it does sound a lot better than it did this morning. At least you can rule out ectopic and blighted ovum. At 6+3, if there's any way you really could be at 6+3, it wouldn't be completely unheard of not to have a heartbeat particularly due to your retroverted uterus. It really all depends on how sure you are of your dates. If you're certain you're around 8 weeks then I'm afraid it probably doesn't look good but if there's any chance you're not that far along, I wouldn't give up hope.

My last miscarriage started somewhat similar though, I had almost 2 weeks of very light, brown sometimes stringy, sometimes snotty spotting before I had a scan done and found that my baby had died at around 7 weeks. It took another week before the bleeding became heavier and the mc happened BUT I think the general rule is brown spotting, at least that which stops after a short time, isn't anything to be worried about.

stickysausages Fri 22-Nov-13 13:45:03

Any news?

greentshirt Fri 22-Nov-13 16:06:45

Ditsy started a thread in miscarriage on Tues to say she had miscarried.

stickysausages Fri 22-Nov-13 18:54:47

Oh no sad I'm so sorry.

So sorry to hear this ditsy

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