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PG after MC: Posifrickentivity as we await more scans and thread babies!

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katatonic Tue 12-Nov-13 22:40:42

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Pixielady83 Tue 12-Nov-13 22:45:15

Thanks kat grin

shellsocks Tue 12-Nov-13 22:47:34

Thanks for the new thread kat smile

Marking place awaiting news from pink....you pushing yet wink

IBelieveInPink Tue 12-Nov-13 23:03:02

Haha. Thank you for the new thread.

No pushing yet. Have cleaned the house and had shower etc. and dinner. Now bouncing on ball. Getting a few aches, but nothing that really feels like contractions yet. Kinda just feels like when baby pushes her bum out, but a bit more painful? Hmm

Penguinita Tue 12-Nov-13 23:03:24

Thanks kat. You get good karma for that.

Let's keep up the batshit craziness on the thread too, otherwise I'll have to find a RL outlet for it and that would be very scary... wink

shellsocks Tue 12-Nov-13 23:08:49

You should sleep if you can, just in case things are still a way off....may be impossible I know! You got a TENS?

JanieLovesLuckySocks Tue 12-Nov-13 23:09:52

Ooh pink hope the rest if your night goes well be it asleep or on your way to hospital smilesmilesmilesmile good luck sweetie!! Can't wait to check in in the morning (or every hour as I wake up too excited!!) xxx

Thanks fir the new thread x

LuckySocks13 Tue 12-Nov-13 23:17:39

Thinking of you pink. Good idea to get some rest and save you're energy. Look forward to checking in with you tomorrow smile

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IBelieveInPink Tue 12-Nov-13 23:19:17

Hospital want me in for a check first, so no sleeping just yet unfortunately! Hopefully will find out a bit more about what happens when though. Don't like the not knowing! smile
Thanks you all for being so lovely as usual. Is nice to be able to share this all!

BlackholesAndRevelations Tue 12-Nov-13 23:22:18

Ooh I'm sure i will be checking in each time I go for a wee in the night!

Hope itgoes quickly and smoothly, pink!

BumpKitty Tue 12-Nov-13 23:26:44

I think they will check that it is your waters (even though you know it is!) then they will see how dilated you are. They can only leave a certain amount of time before waters going and getting the baby out due to risk of infection, not sure how long though - does anyone else know? Then, depending on how dilated you are, they may send you home again till things kick off grin

jmf294 Wed 13-Nov-13 00:00:57

Good luck pink!!
Thinking of you.

Pentagon Wed 13-Nov-13 00:44:27

pink how exciting! Good luck hun, I hope it goes quickly and smoothly! Please keep us updated

huff, kitkat and honey welcome and congratulations! You'll find lots of hand-holding and support on this thread

boba so good to hear from you! How nice that DS1 is happy with DS2 now smile

bump I think it's 24-48 hours...not sure when it's 24 and when 48 though, hmmmm...

IBelieveInPink Wed 13-Nov-13 00:57:01

Update - been to hospital, definitely waters smile being sent home for 24 hours to see if contractions start. If they don't, back in tomorrow for induction. Exciting!

GardenWorm Wed 13-Nov-13 05:45:35

Ooh now that is exciting Pink, I hope things have started for you? XXX

Thanks for starting the new thread Kat smile

IBelieveInPink Wed 13-Nov-13 06:04:49

Contractions started about 2am, went thought til about 4am getting more regular. So I got up to phone hospital, they stopped completely! Seems to only start when I am lying down.... Helpful! Had about half hours sleep. Any ideas?

BumpKitty Wed 13-Nov-13 07:10:26

Well to kick them off again maybe a bath or a walk? But if you need some sleep maybe what pixie said - paracetamol and bed. It's a bit hard to sleep though when you are so excited grin

Bakingtins Wed 13-Nov-13 07:13:12

Bound to be a thread baby today then grin good luck pink !

Hello all, stranger thunder here. Popped in to see how you're all doing and saw pink's news- so exciting. Good luck!

Huffpot Wed 13-Nov-13 07:32:42

How exciting pink
Could you get some sleep sitting up?

BobaFetaCheese Wed 13-Nov-13 07:34:12

pink, Good luck! I'd say rest (ahaha) as much as you can now as if you go to an induction it might be a but tough! Fingers crossed you're close to pushing!

livingzuid Wed 13-Nov-13 07:35:34

Good luck pink!

Pixielady83 Wed 13-Nov-13 07:37:53

oh how frustrating pink did you get any rest at all? at least they will induce you today though! hope you get some rest before kick off xx

BlackholesAndRevelations Wed 13-Nov-13 07:41:42

I think try and rest is probably the best advice, even though it's pretty much impossible!

With any luck the contractions have ramped up now though and you're on your way!

Good luck either way, look forward to hearing your news xx

IBelieveInPink Wed 13-Nov-13 08:02:02

Contractions still massively irregular. According to delivery suite - very common with first babies, boo. Just got to keep waiting til something gets stronger, can't decide whether to try and sleep or get things going bouncing on the ball!

IBelieveInPink Wed 13-Nov-13 08:04:47

<waves at thunder>


kitkat321 Wed 13-Nov-13 08:18:18

Good luck pink!! How exciting!

My cramping and spotting cleared up yesterday afternoon but is back again this morning sad

Spotting was brown but now a light red colour so I'm feeling a bit meh. I've almost refused to accept that this is going to be a viable pregnancy as it just feels so similar to what happened before prior to mc.

I don't think I'll achieve much going to EPU today but fingers crossed they can give me some reassurance even by taking some bloods over the next couple of days.

Louzul Wed 13-Nov-13 08:20:42

Hi Everyone waves, Can I join the thread? I got my BFP on November 3rd, after a MC on the 20th/21st of May. Even though I'm happy, I'm scared. Every-time I go to the loo I check to see if anything is happening, and I feel like I'm hyper aware of the symptoms I'm feeling/ not feeling. Last night my boobs didn't hurt as much as they usually do when I took my bra off, and I'm feeling stabbing/ throbbing pains down there. I know I'm being mad, and I just have to live in the moment. Seeing all of you ladies being so fab and positive really helps! As I haven't had a successful pregnancy yet I dont know what one feels like so it's hard to measure it against something. Does that make sense.

Good luck Pink. Hope everything goes well. smile

shellsocks Wed 13-Nov-13 08:26:17

Ah pink how frustrating....all I can say is get some rest, things will start when they start and if you do have an induction/longer labour you will need to catch up on last night sleep. Thinking of you smile

kitkat321 Wed 13-Nov-13 08:26:39

Hi Louzul!!

Congrats on your BFP. I'm going though the same stresses - mc on 2nd October and got another BFP on Monday but now spotting and cramping so feeling a bit meh.

Last time though, I only had a little bit of spotting and then progressed straight to extreme cramps and bleeding and I collapsed so this is much milder with only small amounts of spotting so keeping everything crossed.

Hoping you have a stress free pg smile

BirdsDoIt Wed 13-Nov-13 08:45:43

Ooh everything's kicked off since last night! How exciting pink! Loving the live feed smile and hope today goes well! Will be checking in...

Hope things start moving for shell and bump soon too smile

And welcome newbies - this is a great place to be - lots of advice and craziness here! kitkat glad to hear you've got an epu appt today and hope they can reassure you - we'll all be keeping fingers crossed. And louzul re symptoms, they definitely come and go - some days I felt so sick, other days pretty much normal. Your sore boobs will be back!

kat and kjh how long till your 20 week scans now? Mine's at 22 weeks so 29 Nov...feels quite far away... I started feeling the baby move last week which is v exciting, and reassuring (though of course I lay awake worrying for about an hour last night that I couldn't feel it moving any more sigh)...

BirdsDoIt Wed 13-Nov-13 08:59:03

pink have you considered dtd to speed things on?!! smile just remembering our earlier discussion...!

JanieLovesLuckySocks Wed 13-Nov-13 09:07:13

oh come on little baby pink!! come meet the world! pink i love how you have a whole virtual audience cheering you on smile fx it all happens soon xxx

hi louzel! welcome to the funny farm! the knicker checking is totally normal, as is everything else you will experience, we've been there and are her to comfort / advise / support / reassure you the whole way smile these girls have been priceless in therapy to me the whole way through this emotional rollercoaster! here's hoping you have a very borng pregnancy smile

i have just got a total spurt of energy. the steam cleaner is going to need more rest than me after this morning. (i say that now...i could be on the settee within half an hour ha!)

IBelieveInPink Wed 13-Nov-13 09:19:07

Birds - once waters have gone not allowed to dtd!

Janie - jealous of the steam cleaning. Last night I was full on running around the house dusting etc! Ha! It can be a sign you know.... ;)

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Wed 13-Nov-13 09:22:40

HELLOO Thunder! <<waves>> Great to see you! grin Everything ok?
IBIP I am soo jealous! I can't wait for Ryvita to get here!

GuffSmuggler Wed 13-Nov-13 09:26:49

Thanks for the new thread kat

Sorry you've had no rest pink, I sat and watched 80s films when I was i early labour with DS, they were easy to watch and just about kept my mind off things!!

JanieLovesLuckySocks Wed 13-Nov-13 09:42:02

Ooh pink a sign you say?!?! Ooooh! I'll not get my hopes up though!! If anything I'll have a tidy house / living room...depending in how far I get! The thought if carrying the vacuum cleaner up stairs is making me think twice ha!

And hi thunder!! I was just asking about you the other day! I hope you are keeping well and that your pregnancy is utterly boring wink xx

Pentagon Wed 13-Nov-13 09:54:34

go pink, go pink, go pink!

Welcome lou and congratulations!

kitkat as everyone's said, most probably the spotting is due to implantation - but we all understand how stressful it is. For the record, I had implantation bleeding with my two successful pregnancies and no bleeding at all with my 2 missed miscarriages...I hope you get seen at the EPU today and you have some reassurance!

birds yay for movements!

kitkat321 Wed 13-Nov-13 10:00:08

Thanks Pentagon - did you have any cramping when you bled?

It's the combination of the two that is scaring me - bleeding still very light thankfully and cramps mild but coming and going - my lower back is also sore.

It's actually hard to differentiate betwen the cramps and the horrible ball of nerves in the pit of my stomach.

Off to the EPU shortly - getting a taxi as I can't deal with the stress of finding a parking space at the hospital on top of everything else!!

shellsocks Wed 13-Nov-13 10:06:11

Good luck kit I know how you must be feeling but I really hope all is ok smile

Hi lou welcome and congrats smile

Hi thunder grin really good to hear from you smile

Hows it going pink?

No news from me, but no sickness etc. since yesterday lunch time so am feeling (relatively!) good at last! Can that be a sign????? wink

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Wed 13-Nov-13 10:06:23

Fingers crossed for you KitKat.

shellsocks Wed 13-Nov-13 10:12:37

Ready to update later pink smile

Stats 13 November : Today we are pregnant

BumpKitty: 1MC, 1DD, EDD 9 Nov
Shellshock7: 2MC 1DS EDD 12 Nov
Ibelieveinpink: 2mc, EDD 16 Nov
GardenWorm: 1DC, 2MC, EDD 19th November,
Janielovesluckysocks: 1MC, 0DC, EDD 23rd Nov
Lucky13: 1DS, 1 chemical, 2MC, EDD 23rd Nov
Vixjane: 2 MC, EDD 24 Nov
Vocalista86: 1 MMC, EDD 30 November
Jmf294: 1 DS, 1DD, 1 MC, EDD 10th Dec
ChocolateCremeEggbag: 1DS, 1MC, EDD 16 Dec
DIYandEatCake: 1dd, 1mc, EDD ?16 dec
Booty: 1chemical EDD 19 Dec
Blackholes: 2 MC, 2 DC, EDD 25 December
WillSantaComeAgain: 1DC, 2MMC, EDD 29Dec
pumpkinsweetie mc1, EDD 03 Jan
Christinedaae - 1DD, 1MC, EDD 25th Jan
Lieslvontrapp: 1MMC, 0DC, EDD 10 Feb
TotalShock 0DC, 1MMC, EDD 1 March
Pixielady83 1DD, 1MMC, EDD 3 March
GuffSmuggler: 1DS, 1MCC, EDD 4 March
Rock: 1DS, 1MMC, EDD 4 March
Swangirl:1DD,2DS,1MC EDD 8 March 2014
Motorcyclemama: 1MMC, EDD 17 March
SaggyOldClothPussCat: 1MC, 1DD, 1DS, EDD 13 March
Omri: 1DS, 1MMS, EDD 24 March
Fod27: 1DD 1DS 1MMC EDD 26th March 2014
RainbowConnections: 1DS, 2MC, EDD 1 April
Birdsdoit: 1MMC, 0DC, EDD 6 April
Blackberryand Nettle: 1MMC, EDD 10th April
TeaAndANatter: DS, DD, 1MMC, 20th April (ish)
Kjh5: 0DC, 1MC, EDD 21 April 2014
PoppySeedBun: 0DC, 1 MMC, EDD 22 April 2014
ImpatientlyWaiting: 0DC, 1MC, EDD 1 May 2014
MarthasHarbour: 1DS, 2MCs, EDD 7 May 2014
Tomkat: EDD 9 May 2014
Polka: 0DC 1mmc 2mc EDD 9th May
CbeebiesIsMyLife: 2DD's 6MC EDD 15th May
MissMedusa: 0DC, 2MC, EDD 20th May 2014
Emki; 1 DD, 2MC, EDD 30th May2014
Penguinita: 0 DC, 1 MMC, EDD 31st May 2014
MeDoingMyThing: 2 DS, 1MC, EDD 14th June 2014

New arrivals:

Jessw25 Baby Oliver born 9 July 2013 5lb 11oz
GaryBuseysTeeth Baby Alexander born 30 July 2013 7lb 4oz
Andadietcoke twin girls born 29 August Charlotte 5lb 5oz & Sophie 7lb 13oz
Pentagon baby Elsie born 23 October 7lb 5oz
Bodicea baby James born 3 November 8lb

BlackholesAndRevelations Wed 13-Nov-13 10:20:16

Pink- in my experience (massively long latent phase with first baby) REST, as no amount of bouncing/whatever will bring it on. It'll happen when it happens. Such hard advice to follow, I know; i got sent home twice in early stages with dc1! Gutting!

Welcome Lou!

YoshimiB Wed 13-Nov-13 10:47:46

Rainbowconnections here. NC. Rainbow too sentimental.

Pink how exciting. Hope you manage some rest though not sure I could sleep. Thinking of you. x

Hello all. Welcome to the new people. Congrats on your BFPs. The early weeks are really tough. I found myself watching a couple of really good tv series as a distraction. And an audiobook and lots of podcasts for sleepless nights. But its impossible not to be anxious. Hope you get some reassurance today kitkat. x

Congrats to those who have had good scans over the last week or two. Bakingtins glad its all going well

I'm 21 wks now but have 20 wk scan next week. Really excited to find out sex. Have bought some neutral baby clothes and really enjoying having a bump now - although still some worry moments mainly as hardly any movement so far. Starting to eye up cheap prams.

Louzul Wed 13-Nov-13 11:19:02

Thanks everyone. I already feel better. I know each time is different so I shouldn't compare! Quick post as I am at work. KitKat thinking of you today. Oh and hi bakingtins you were such a support during my MC on here, so its fab to see it's all going well.

kitkat321 Wed 13-Nov-13 11:28:53

Just back from EPU - as expected it was a bit of a fruitless exercise.

The MW couldn't understand why I'd been booked in for a scan since I'm just 6 weeks post mc and therefore would be 5 wks pg at most.

Scans showed nothing really - the internal scan showed thickening of the womb which could be in preparation for this pg or this pg may have failed and therefore it will just turn into a period.

She has taken bloods and will confirm levels today and then we'll decide if/when I need another appt.

She didn't seem concerned about the cramps or bleeding - said bleeding was very minimal when she did the internal scan but will have to see if it comes to anything.

So no further forward but was good to get the bloods done at least.

BumpKitty Wed 13-Nov-13 11:29:29

I'm getting all emotional with all the new BFPs and babies on the way it's like the whole circle of pregnancy (catchy huh?!).

kjh5 Wed 13-Nov-13 11:31:39

Ooh yay!! New thread - [pulls up a comfy chair] are we in the virtual waiting room for Pink yet? I have a feeling we are going to get lots of thread babies this time around!

Birds I'm not having my 20week until 21+5 which is still four weeks away sad Hope it passes quickly! So awesome to hear you can feel movement!! I can't wait for that to happen.

Kitkat hope you have got some reassurance, your symptoms echo mine throughout the first trimester. Both mild cramps and even some bleeding is normal. Hoping this isn't a bad sign for you, I had both and I'm now 17+4 and none the worse for it!

Welcome any other newbies!! xx

cosmickitten Wed 13-Nov-13 12:31:39

Hello all :-)

Pink hope all is going well and that your little will be with you soon.

louzul welcome the first trimester is very scary. No big helpful hints offer but having people to talk to who understand is a great help.

kitkat thinking of you, hope Epu where able to offer some reassurance.

I have my 12 week scan on Friday and feeling pre-scan panic rise. All was fine at scan at 10 weeks and the bleed I have then stopped a few days ago. So trying to tell myself all is ok.

Morning sickness has been really bad the last few days. I think hugging toilet bowl most the day isn't helping with staying busy / cheerful. Must keeping telling myself all day puking is a good sign!

katatonic Wed 13-Nov-13 12:34:04

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kitkat321 Wed 13-Nov-13 13:15:44

Very exciting for you Kat!! Will you find out what you're having?

I'm convinced it's a no go for me - still cramping and bleeding is heavier now and more like a period (I never get heavy periods anyway). Also some little red clots too although I know that the internal scan can cause this.

Will see what the blood tests show - If it's another mc I don't think I can go through this again any time soon.

JanieLovesLuckySocks Wed 13-Nov-13 13:34:37

oh kitkat i have everything crossed for you xx

cosmickitten Wed 13-Nov-13 13:59:44

kitkat sorry to hear bleeding is getting heavier. How long until you get blood test results?

Haven't been here for a while!
Welcome all you newbies & congratulations on your pregnanciessmile

Seems as though i have come back at the right time, with pink about to have her baby any day nowsmile. Hopefully today will be the day, exciting times!!!

32+3 here, finally starting to relax and starting to be very positive about there being a baby in 8 weeks!
Counting down the weeks now and hoping she is 13 days early so i can have an early Christmas present under my treesmile, obviously not literally birthed under my treegrin, although that would be nice!

Moved doctors surgeries so getting a new mw next weeksmile

Only just seen your post kitkat keeping my fx tightly for you in the hope all is well xxx

kitkat321 Wed 13-Nov-13 14:16:22

cosmic getting the blood results this afternoon although the first set probably won't tell us enought to be conclusive unless hcg levels are very low suggesting mc. Otherwise I'll have to go back in a few days for more.

katatonic Wed 13-Nov-13 14:20:03

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cosmickitten Wed 13-Nov-13 14:21:55

kitkat hugs the waiting and feeling in limbo is so so hard x

kitkat321 Wed 13-Nov-13 14:22:21

Test results are back - HCG level of 37 which is lower than the mw was hoping given I got a BFP on Monday and a very faint positive a week ago.

Back on Friday am for more tests but I expect the numbers might be going the wrong way - time will tell I guess!

Thanks for all the crossed fingers!

shellsocks Wed 13-Nov-13 14:29:30

Sorry to hear your update kit but hoping that things turn around for you before the next bloods. Look after yourself x

GardenWorm Wed 13-Nov-13 16:24:12

So sorry kitkat that the results aren't what you'd been hoping for, as you said only time will tell. It's a shitty wait though. Big hug x

So nothing from Pink makes me think things are definitely on the move grin

andthepiggotupandslowlywalkeda Wed 13-Nov-13 16:30:04

kitkat, I'm sorry to hear that things aren't what you'd been hoping for. I'm still crossing my fingers for you though.

Honey786 Wed 13-Nov-13 16:47:07

Hi everyone,

No news from pink yet, hope all is going well for her.

kitkat so sorry to hear about your results, have my fx for u too. It's the waiting and not knowing which is the worst.

Birds I have my 30 week scan on 29th too and have also been feeling movement since last week! It's the

Honey786 Wed 13-Nov-13 16:47:39

Sorry, it's the only thing keeping me sane.

Honey786 Wed 13-Nov-13 16:48:30

I meant 20 week scan! I apologise, have butter fingers!

YoshimiB Wed 13-Nov-13 17:17:48

Its horrible waiting kitkat. So sorry you have this worry. x

Huffpot Wed 13-Nov-13 17:23:47

kitkat am thinking of you and hope the next blood tests have gone right up

Pixielady83 Wed 13-Nov-13 17:35:45

hello to new ladies <waves> fingers crossed for very straightforward pregnancies this time for you.

kitkat sorry you haven't had good news today hope things look better with next results x

rainbow (cant remember your new nn!) pumpkin and thunder nice to hear from all of you smile

Eish its cold today! just managed 10min walk to station, not sure if it was a good idea or not but traffic was at stand still so couldn't bear another smelly taxi ride.

Hope pink is pushing by now!

Pixielady83 Wed 13-Nov-13 17:37:46

yoshimi just checked on your name change- flaming lips ref? smile

BobaFetaCheese Wed 13-Nov-13 17:47:46

pink, hope all is going well for you, you suspiciously quiet person!

kitkat, so sorry for this extra worry for you. Hope things improve with the next set of results.

Kata, how was your scan?

IBelieveInPink Wed 13-Nov-13 17:57:19

Sorry all, been trying to keep busy as possible! Contractions still there, stronger but still not regular, so heading in to be induced. Will try and update as and when, sounds like I may have lots of spare time if it doesn't go quick! Will catch up on the thread later smile

Lieslvontrapp Wed 13-Nov-13 17:57:28

Kitkat really sorry you've had more bleeding today and the hcg levels weren't as high as you hoped. The waiting is just so horrible. We're all here for you.

Oh we haven't heard from pink since this morning! Hopefully that's because she's had her baby!

Thunderpantsarego Wed 13-Nov-13 17:58:21

Hey pixie and saggy <waves back>
I'm ok thanks. 22 weeks tomorrow and feeling flutters through my anterior placenta. Having a bit if a worried phase about it going wrong still though, particularly as I would now have to deliver the baby <shudders>

kit sorry that the results weren't as good as they could have been today. Fingers crossed they are just a but slow in getting going.

Hi newbies

Ooo pink being quiet?! Very promising! Will be checking back in regularly...

Lieslvontrapp Wed 13-Nov-13 17:58:36

Oh d

cosmickitten Wed 13-Nov-13 17:58:49

Kitkat I'm sorry the results from the first test weren't higher. Keeping fingers crossed that Friday's numbers are going the right way.

Thunderpantsarego Wed 13-Nov-13 17:59:04

X posts pink, good luck!

Lieslvontrapp Wed 13-Nov-13 17:59:28

Oh there you are pink! Good luck with the induction!

ChristineDaae Wed 13-Nov-13 18:33:03

Hi all, checking in to the new thread. Hope all going well Pink!
Thunder and pumpkin, good to hear from you both smile
Kit jar sorry you didn't get better news today.
Hi to any newbies iv missed.

Had the midwife today, she has recommended a bump band and physio if it doesn't help as I'm starting to get really bad pains under bump and down my legs hmm

BlackholesAndRevelations Wed 13-Nov-13 18:52:31

Aw pink good luck for induction! Sounds like your body has already made a start so hopefully will be nice and quick!

Sorry kitkat- hope you get good news on Friday. Everything crossed xx

GardenWorm Wed 13-Nov-13 18:53:52

Erm Pink no need to apologise! We are just all ridiculously excited for you smile

Thunder sorry I forgot to say hello, it's good to have you back x

Polka2 Wed 13-Nov-13 19:10:41

Yey pink sounds imminent! Good luck!

Kitkat so sorry you're having another alarming and horrid day - hugs.

Hello to all newbies!

Polka2 Wed 13-Nov-13 19:11:25

Oops forget to say thanks Kat for our new thread!

shellsocks Wed 13-Nov-13 19:15:27

Good luck pink my friend had a great induction experience with a 45 minute labour so fingers crossed for you smile

kjh5 Wed 13-Nov-13 20:00:14

Oooh lovely to hear from you Pink hoping you have an easy time of it tonight xx

Kit so sorry to hear about the worrying day you have had. Really hoping it gets better for you tomorrow!

Quick general question: think I might have overdone it on the exercise over the past three days and feels like I have pulled a muscle in my uterus. confused Have been doing gentle ante-natal type stuff but think the abdominal/core exercises were too advanced for me! I can't have hurt the baby can I? Hoping the sprog is pretty well cushioned in there [feels like an idiot!] blush

BirdsDoIt Wed 13-Nov-13 20:14:52

Oh kitkat rubbish that you don't have a definitive answer yet. Keeping everything crossed for you.

thunder I know what you mean about the anxiety. I had a weird moment of realisation yesterday that whatever happened good or bad I was now going to have to get the baby out! Slightly freaked myself out. Lovely to hear you can feel it moving now too though.

kat can't believe you only have a week till your 20 wk scan! So jealous! I wish my hospital did them at 20 wks rather than 22...however honey yay that we can count down the days together until 29 Nov and that you've felt yours moving too! Sounds like we're on the same schedule!

kjh isn't it more likely that they're growing/stretching pains in your uterus than something you've done with exercise? I've been doing only Pilates and swimming (plus occasional running to catch the train, ahem) so highly unlikely to have pulled anything and I'm also getting weird shooting pains occasionally. And when I sneeze or laugh sometimes I get really stabby pains as well - I think it's all just growing...weeks to your scan will pass pretty quickly I'm sure - hopefully in a couple of weeks you'll feel movements and that really does help keep you sane as honey says.

Go pink!!

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Wed 13-Nov-13 20:17:08

KitKat dont give up hope yet lovely. At one possibly 4 weeks or so, it's very early for anything. If you only recently implanted, you could have very low hcg levels. I had quite clotty loss around implantation as well. I thought I'd got AF. Its not over till the fat lady sings, and I have a sore throat today! wink

BirdsDoIt Wed 13-Nov-13 20:18:36

Ps straw poll - who is going to find out the sex at 20 wk scan? I think we're not but that's really my vote rather than DH's. Am I being a complete spoilsport not wanting to find out before baby is born? It just feels like opening presents before Christmas Day. And I do like a surprise. Are any of you currently having this debate / not agreeing with your DP about it?!

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Wed 13-Nov-13 20:21:33

Thunder cut yourself some slack, you've made it half way, it's all downhill from here! grin
Pink, come on now woman, think PUSH! grin Imagine the flower unfurling and all that guff...

Polka2 Wed 13-Nov-13 20:30:19

Birds I'm totally with you on pressures b4 Xmas day, I definitely want a surprise!wink

Pixielady83 Wed 13-Nov-13 20:59:53

yep birds that's exactly how DH described finding out, presents before Christmas. can honestly say the moment we found out who DD was was just incredible, such a surprise. I loved it and can't wait for another surprise!

kjh hope you're ok, it sounds like muscle strain.

pink loads of luck! hope you get some sleep while everything starts working. I didn't know they started inductions at night actually.

Polka2 Wed 13-Nov-13 20:59:54

Presents NOT pressures!!!!

kjh5 Wed 13-Nov-13 21:05:15

Thanks Birds think it might be that - or the baby giving me a good kicking because it has had enough of being squeezed and squished as I motor through my 45min ante-natal workout!

Regarding the sex - I'm the world's most impatient person so didn't give DH a say in the matter. I've told everyone we're finding out. I think he'd quite like a surprise - maybe I'll change my mind when we're at the hospital! I like the thought of knowing so I can decorate the nursery and we can decide on a name - plus I'm hoping it'll make me feel more bonded to the bubba before it arrives! I do have great admiration for anyone who sticks with the surprise though! I do love finding out at the birth when friends have gone down that route smile

GardenWorm Wed 13-Nov-13 21:08:13

Birds as the world and his wife has said to me when they ask if I know what I'm having a sarcastic 'baby' usually shuts them up and I say no; 'there aren't many surprises in life'. We didn't find out with DD and don't know this time. I love not knowing for definite it's a girl I'm sure but it's each to their own. I know of couples where they want different things who have taken paper and an envelope and asked the sonographer to write the sex on it and then they have the option of opening it on a special occasion. I'd be crap at that though and would probably open it before I'd left the hospital car park grin

kitkat321 Wed 13-Nov-13 21:11:25

Thanks all - full on period now so think its another chemical pregnancy. Will get the bloods done to confirm it but the extent of the bleeding and cramping makes me pretty certain.

Think someone is trying to tell me something so going to take a break from ttc for a while - don't want to go through this again any time soon. X

GardenWorm Wed 13-Nov-13 21:15:01

Oh Kitkat so sad to hear that. Please stay strong and positive and once you are ready I hope you come back and join us very soon. Don't lose hope, I had 2 MC's before this pregnancy and there are lots of other people out there who have been through the mill but do get there. I hope you have lots of support in RL. Big hugs again xxx

BlackholesAndRevelations Wed 13-Nov-13 21:18:02

Oh kitkat- hugs from me too. I had two mc in quick succession; after a period I conceived again with this one. Take as long or as short a time as you feel able. Take care xxx

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Wed 13-Nov-13 21:19:10

Im so sorry KitKat. I hope everything is still good, but have a {{{hug}}} anyway. One thing we can all say here, is that we have been there, and it's shit. Another thing we can all say, is that we all got there in the end. Don't give up.
If its bad news, and although it is early days, pop over to our TTC thread. Everyone is lovely there too, and hopefully you will be back here with us really soon. Fingers crossed for you. xxx

BobaFetaCheese Wed 13-Nov-13 21:21:56

Kitkat, so sorry my love. I hope the next few days and weeks are good to you and it happens quickly when you're ready to start trying again. xx

birds, I wish we didn't find out with ds2. It was exactly like opening presents before Christmas but pretending to be excited on the day.
Finding out with DS1 on the day was wonderful, almost made the 14 hours of pain worth it. Almost grin

Pink is quiet again isn't she. Hmmmm! Good luck with the induction!

katatonic Wed 13-Nov-13 21:24:17

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kitkat321 Wed 13-Nov-13 21:35:53

Thanks all - at the moment I'm not so much sad as frustrated and feeling a bit sorry for myself.

My worry now is there is something wrong with me that means that I can get pregnant but can't stay pregnant - I doubt I'll get any support from the doctors as they are very much giving me the "it's more common than you think message".

Thanks again for the kind wishes xxx

JanieLovesLuckySocks Wed 13-Nov-13 21:40:42

Kitkat I'm so sorry thanks. As others have said, you'll know when the time is right to start ttc in the future. look after yourself in the meantime xxx

jmf294 Wed 13-Nov-13 21:57:50

Thoughts with you kitkat- we all know how hard it is,
Take the time and space you need xxx

Tomkat79 Wed 13-Nov-13 22:09:46

Stay positive kitkatit will happen. Sending you lots of love.

We're not finding out the sex...I'm the only one in the family that's team blue...but I was wrong last time! Our main reason is to save money...I know what I'm like and will buy far too much that he or she doesn't need. Will take all our willpower though at the scan I bet.

Bizarrely...our 20 week scan is on the due date of our little bubba we lost and this ones due date is the same week as our MC hmm

BumpKitty Wed 13-Nov-13 22:14:35

sorry kitkat I hope you have lots of support in RL and remember we are all here too xxx

pink I hope you are doing ok my lovely, I'm sending you some calming yoga breaths (!) come on baby pink

Pentagon Wed 13-Nov-13 22:35:19

oh kitkat I'm so sorry...take a break from ttc if that's what you feel like doing and I'm sure you'll have good news very soon. Most probably there's nothing wrong with you but I know where you're coming from (I've had the same worry as you after my 2 MMCs and I have 2 children now) and unfortunately testing isn't offered till you have 3 MCs as I'm sure you know. Chin up, think "I've lost a battle but not the war", keep going and you will get there in the end.

thinking of you pink!

I'm with kjh5 re finding out the sex

tom spooky re dates!

NerdyBird Wed 13-Nov-13 22:39:01


Just putting my head round the door of this thread, not sure if I'll be able to join properly. Had BFP a week ago and am probably 5wks, but didn't have my last period so bit difficult with counting.

Feeling quite pessimistic now, have convinced myself everything has already gone wrong. Had been getting some symptoms like feeling sick, weeing lots and sore boobs but those are wearing off sad only thing left is tiredness. Going to the dr tomorrow to ask for early scan so if anyone has any suggestions for how to not drive myself mad whilst I wait for scan appt that would be useful!

cosmickitten Wed 13-Nov-13 23:14:56

kitkat I'm so sorry. I dont really have the words but thinking of you x

cosmickitten Wed 13-Nov-13 23:24:08

Waves to Nerdy no great wisedom on not going mad waiting for scans. I'm scared to death of my 12 week scan on Friday.

However at 5 weeks my symptoms were very on and off. I held up no hope what so ever. At 6 weeks I started all day sickness, at 9 weeks it went totally for 3 days then came back in full force. Loss of symptoms was the only sign of my mmc at 11 weeks and every drop now sends me into a panic.

I've paid for 3 pr

cosmickitten Wed 13-Nov-13 23:25:40

Private scans which seems excessive but it helped me stay calm. I'm lucky we can afford it but really it has been the best £180 I've spent in a longtime.

Bakingtins Thu 14-Nov-13 07:03:23

kitkat I am so sorry. 2nd MC is particularly tough, that much harder for you to believe it's just bad luck but nobody wants to investigate. flowers

pink thinking of you!

Bakingtins Thu 14-Nov-13 07:04:50

Hi nerdy and congrats. No idea how not to get scan-wait madness, I am reassured for all of 5 mins by mine.

Huffpot Thu 14-Nov-13 07:11:52

am so sorry kitkat thanks

Thunderpantsarego Thu 14-Nov-13 07:12:37

I'm really sorry to read your news kit. It's so unfair. You take good care of yourself and I really believe you will get there x

Hi nerdy and congratulations! No answer to the scan wait madness I don't think. Just have to take one lonnngggg day at a time. It's not easy....

Thunderpantsarego Thu 14-Nov-13 07:14:44

And we didn't find out the sex at our 20 week scan. Partly because the magic and the surprise seem so precious and partly because I'm not ready to process that it's a person rather than a pregnancy yet. I think I'm a terrible wus!

livingzuid Thu 14-Nov-13 07:18:25

Aw kitkat I am so sorry. I hope your body recovers soon and you take the time you need to get better yourself. Sucks sad

kitkat321 Thu 14-Nov-13 08:04:32

Thanks all. Feeling much better this morning - cramps been gone since last night so had a good nights sleep and bleeding has stopped for now.

We're going to be careful until I've had my next AF just to get things back to normal and then not actively ttc but just see what happens.

Good thing is we're obviously fertile - hopefully the next one will stick whenever that me be.

Congrats to you nerdy! X

Louzul Thu 14-Nov-13 08:08:37

So sorry kitkat. We know what you are going through. Take some time for you, and lots of love.

Hi Nerdy. I'm the same as you. 5 weeks yesterday so it's early days. In terms of symptoms I've had days when I've felt hardly anything, but today I woke up with tender tingly boobs, felt queasy, tired and needing to pee. I cant tell you how happy I felt!! I must be one of the few who wants morning sickness!! smile Going to my GP today to get on the system for scans and things, and I'm going to talk to them about how I feel mentally and see what they say. All we can do i hope for the best!!

katatonic Thu 14-Nov-13 08:23:39

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IBelieveInPink Thu 14-Nov-13 10:13:27

Hi all. Sorry for the total delay in updating.
My gorgeous baby girl was born this morning by emergency section. All got a little scary, but we are both fine smile
So, so happy. X

ChristineDaae Thu 14-Nov-13 10:16:43

Pink congratulations!!!!! So glad to hear you are both ok! What is her name? So so happy for you

Kitkat, so sorry this has happened to you again.
Welcome Nerdy!!

JanieLovesLuckySocks Thu 14-Nov-13 10:31:58

Oh pink I'm so happy that she's finally here!! Congratulations thanksthanksthanksthanks Hope you're ok and that mr pink and baby pink are ok too! Sounds scary but hopefully now she's here it's a distant memory smile

Was she a baby hippo afterall?!?! Big love xxxxxx

BumpKitty Thu 14-Nov-13 10:42:19

Congratulations on your new little family pink - I'm glad they looked after you both and got her here safe and sound. Can't wait to hear her name xxx

BobaFetaCheese Thu 14-Nov-13 10:43:44

You better be sorry for the delayed update Pink, not like you were busy or anything wink

Massive, big happy grin on my face, Congratulations to you, Mr.Pink & Lady.Pink!
Hope you're recovering well after your emergency section and enjoying newborn squishes. thanks

<waves> Hello Nerdy! Congratulations, I thought everything was going wrong for me constantly during the first (and second, and third) trimester.
Mc takes away that innocent 'I'm pregnant & therefore will have a baby' train of thought, so completely get where you're coming from. x

IBelieveInPink Thu 14-Nov-13 10:55:50

Thank you all. I'm so obsessed with her. She's amazing.

Name is Imogen smile

And no, she is not a hippo! Well, maybe a pigmy one smile 7lb 4.

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Thu 14-Nov-13 11:01:07

Welcome*Nerdy and Lou*. So lovely to see you here. Seriously though, be careful what you wish for! grin I'll remind you of your no symptom anxiety in a couple of weeks when you're calling Huey at all hours of the day and night! grin grin wink
Ibip Congratulations! I'm so pleased for you! and more than a little jealous! xxxxxxxxx

shellsocks Thu 14-Nov-13 11:08:18

pink I'm all emotional for you, what a roller coaster you must have been on these past couple of days...congratulations, Imogen is a lovely name, glad she is doing well smile Hope you have a quick recovery xxx

shellsocks Thu 14-Nov-13 11:10:30

How you doing this morning kit hope you are getting some TLC x

So I've started to lose my plug...movement at last! Started on Sunday, went into proper labour on Wed and had DS on the Fri last time, that would be ok just wanna avoid induction smile

Any signs bump?

shellsocks Thu 14-Nov-13 11:23:45

Stats 14November : Today we are pregnant

BumpKitty: 1MC, 1DD, EDD 9 Nov
Shellshock7: 2MC 1DS EDD 12 Nov
GardenWorm: 1DC, 2MC, EDD 19th November,
Janielovesluckysocks: 1MC, 0DC, EDD 23rd Nov
Lucky13: 1DS, 1 chemical, 2MC, EDD 23rd Nov
Vixjane: 2 MC, EDD 24 Nov
Vocalista86: 1 MMC, EDD 30 November
Jmf294: 1 DS, 1DD, 1 MC, EDD 10th Dec
ChocolateCremeEggbag: 1DS, 1MC, EDD 16 Dec
DIYandEatCake: 1dd, 1mc, EDD ?16 dec
Booty: 1chemical EDD 19 Dec
Blackholes: 2 MC, 2 DC, EDD 25 December
WillSantaComeAgain: 1DC, 2MMC, EDD 29Dec
pumpkinsweetie mc1, EDD 03 Jan
Christinedaae - 1DD, 1MC, EDD 25th Jan
Lieslvontrapp: 1MMC, 0DC, EDD 10 Feb
TotalShock 0DC, 1MMC, EDD 1 March
Pixielady83 1DD, 1MMC, EDD 3 March
GuffSmuggler: 1DS, 1MCC, EDD 4 March
Rock: 1DS, 1MMC, EDD 4 March
Swangirl:1DD,2DS,1MC EDD 8 March 2014
Motorcyclemama: 1MMC, EDD 17 March
SaggyOldClothPussCat: 1MC, 1DD, 1DS, EDD 13 March
Omri: 1DS, 1MMS, EDD 24 March
Fod27: 1DD 1DS 1MMC EDD 26th March 2014
RainbowConnections: 1DS, 2MC, EDD 1 April
Birdsdoit: 1MMC, 0DC, EDD 6 April
Blackberryand Nettle: 1MMC, EDD 10th April
TeaAndANatter: DS, DD, 1MMC, 20th April (ish)
Kjh5: 0DC, 1MC, EDD 21 April 2014
PoppySeedBun: 0DC, 1 MMC, EDD 22 April 2014
ImpatientlyWaiting: 0DC, 1MC, EDD 1 May 2014
MarthasHarbour: 1DS, 2MCs, EDD 7 May 2014
Tomkat: EDD 9 May 2014
Polka: 0DC 1mmc 2mc EDD 9th May
CbeebiesIsMyLife: 2DD's 6MC EDD 15th May
MissMedusa: 0DC, 2MC, EDD 20th May 2014
Emki; 1 DD, 2MC, EDD 30th May2014
Penguinita: 0 DC, 1 MMC, EDD 31st May 2014
MeDoingMyThing: 2 DS, 1MC, EDD 14th June 2014

New arrivals:

Jessw25 Baby Oliver born 9 July 2013 5lb 11oz
GaryBuseysTeeth Baby Alexander born 30 July 2013 7lb 4oz
Andadietcoke twin girls born 29 August Charlotte 5lb 5oz & Sophie 7lb 13oz
Pentagon baby Elsie born 23 October 7lb 5oz
Bodicea baby James born 3 November 8lb
Ibelieveinpink baby Imogen born 14 November 7lb 4oz

Thunderpantsarego Thu 14-Nov-13 11:32:04

Wow! Congratulations pink and welcome to Imogen. Beautiful name x x

Polka2 Thu 14-Nov-13 12:21:41

Weyheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy pink huge congratulations to you and Mr Pink and welcome to lovely Imogen (great name!) Sorry to hear it got a little scary but you're both well which is the main thing - huge hugs time.

kitkat I'm so sorry you're having such a rough time but pleased you had a good nights kip, amazing how that seems to make everything a little (tiny bit) easier to deal with.

Bakingtins Thu 14-Nov-13 12:22:29

Congratulations Pink wishing you a speedy recovery. I'm sure Imogen makes it all worthwhile.

BumpKitty Thu 14-Nov-13 12:22:58

Imogen is beautiful xx

shell I get period pains every now and again but it doesn't progress, I just saw the midwife and she surprised me by offering a smear after previously saying I couldn't have one till 8 days over, then she kind of talked me out of it. I'm not sure what happened really! So I'm booked in for one on Sunday. I think our babies will come then as its full moon smile

BumpKitty Thu 14-Nov-13 12:23:39

Sweep not smear! That would be a surprise

kjh5 Thu 14-Nov-13 12:23:49

YAY Pink!!! How exciting and I LOVE LOVE LOVE the name smile Hope you have a super speedy recovery and that you are doing ok today xx

Shell this sounds exciting! I think we are about to have a good week for thread babies smile

Welcome Nerdy! Glad you made it over smile we all go through a bit of fatalism in the first trimester, those weeks are the worst but just remember: Today you are pregnant. This is an amazing thing! And we've all managed to get through the weeks somehow! Fx for an easy pregnancy for you xx

kit just sending you so much love and hoping you get all the support you need right now. I know we'll see you back here soon.

So I am in varying degrees of agony right now across my lower abdomen in what may or may not be a pulled muscle sad Called the midwives and the woman I spoke to rambled on about how I might have some kind of pelvic muscle disorder (what?!!?) and said I needed to see a GP asap. Thank goodness there is a free appointment this afternoon at my surgery - that has never happened to me before. I'm sure its just a pulled muscle and I have been a bit stupid about overdoing the exercise - I hope that is what it is! Feel like a right idiot at this point (albeit a slighty panicked, trying-not-to-cry idiot)

Congratulations pinksmile so happy for you & such a beautiful namethanks
Hope you have a quick recovery & enjoy being a new mummy x

So sorry to hear it's getting worse for you kitkatsad xx

katatonic Thu 14-Nov-13 12:32:47

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katatonic Thu 14-Nov-13 12:33:37

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WhatWillSantaBring Thu 14-Nov-13 12:40:08

Yippee pink - so happy for you grin

Sorry everyone - lurking massively as cant seem to post on my PC at work and I rarely get time to log in at home. But here hand holding still,


GardenWorm Thu 14-Nov-13 12:48:11

Awe Pink I'm sooooo happy for the Pink family. Cherish every moment of amazingness that you are feeling right now, you deserve it X

Beautiful name for a non hippo xxx

Good luck Shell, hope yours is on their way!

GardenWorm Thu 14-Nov-13 12:50:33

Ooh I'm top 3! Eeeek!

JanieLovesLuckySocks Thu 14-Nov-13 12:53:37

Aw Little Miss Imogen Pink is a gorgeous name!!! smilesmilesmilesmile so happy!

Shell things are looking good for you! And Bump too yay! Maybe 3 thread babies in one week? Or more maybe ooh!! I'd live a full moon baby smile although it might come out like teen wolf ha!! I was a hairy baby and I'm secretly hoping for a little monkeyesque one too!! I've been offered a sweep at my term appointment next Friday...not sure whether to take it or not!

LuckySocks13 Thu 14-Nov-13 13:09:53

Kit - so sorry you are having to go through all this again. Look after yourself and take the time you need.

Chocolateteabag Thu 14-Nov-13 13:12:01

Excellent news Pink - congratulations!!!

KJh - hopefully you are getting checked out right now but sounds like pelvic girdle strain - I tried to push a door open with my foot at around 24 weeks and actually felt my pubic bones moving against each other - was agony! Your LO will be fine though - will likely involve rest for you for a while - I didn't do this straightaway and it took much longer to heal.

Kitkat - very sorry to hear your news, hope you have a lot of hugs in RL. Take care and keep looking forward.

Hello to all the new ladies who have joined since I last posted, it's such a nerve wracking time but this thread is such a life saver.

Am now in second week of ML (35+3) and have upholstered an ottoman and painted a chest of drawers. Now cleaning and recolouring my change bag before venturing to mothercare. I definitely have the nesting bug. Just hope LO stays in until December as I still have several things on the list to do. DS (3 last week) definitely getting more clingy, he was awful this morning in way to nursery - we are stopping him going after Christmas so will just be in the village preschool (which he likes a bit more) feel guilty to have time off without him - but I have so little energy at the moment and need to get some stuff sorted out before I have another appendage

LuckySocks13 Thu 14-Nov-13 13:12:10

Welcome to all the new comers. You will find a lot of support here. Such a busy thread now with lots of hand holding and good advice. The early days are so so hard and I've had a pretty stressful pregnancy all the way through with lots of bleeds and hospital visits. 38.5 weeks now so the end is in sight. Take one day at a time it does get easier as time goes on

LuckySocks13 Thu 14-Nov-13 13:14:18

PINK ! Whoop de whoop whoop a baby smile smile smile big congratulations and welcome to the world baby Imogen thanks hope you make a speedy recovery from your op. Enjoy every minute of your new baby daughter smile

Pentagon Thu 14-Nov-13 14:25:11

pink!!! Huge congratulations my lovely! You made it!! I love the name Imogen and she's a great weight too! (all that worrying about having a baby hippo for nothing) I'm sorry to hear it all got a bit scary (you'll have to tell us what happened when you have some time) but she's here and you're both well which is all that matters. Enjoy these precious moments!

Happy Birthday anda! And mum, Prince Charles and baby Imogen of course! smile

Welcome nerdy and congratulations! The first trimester is really scary and stressful but we're all here for you

shell it's all happening, how exciting! Not long now! And bump, garden and lucky should follow soon too (I'm not forgetting anyone, am I? I know jmf is booked for a c-section at the end of the month)

kjh sorry to hear you're in pain; hopefully you'll get some answers at the GP appointment today. Good luck!

GuffSmuggler Thu 14-Nov-13 14:26:45

Wonderful news pink!! Many many congratulations, you have your little girl in your arms!! So happy for you grin

ChristineDaae Thu 14-Nov-13 14:47:04

Hi all - any of you 3rd trimester lot had a reaction to the whooping cough jab? I had mine yesterday and was up allllll night going to the toilet/vomiting/stomach cramps. Wondering if they could be related

NerdyBird Thu 14-Nov-13 14:47:16


Thanks for the nice welcome, it's good to know that I'm not the only one that's trying to deal with this. I had an appointment with my dr this morning and she was nice.
I will see the midwife on tuesday and she will organise scans etc. the dr said that technically there is no medical reason for an early scan, but as there are problems dating my pregnancy the midwife might book one for quite soon anyway, to see how far along I am.
Dr also said symptoms are a reaction to the hormones and aren't directly related to the health of your pregnancy so having them or not isn't a reliable indicator.

I have felt a bit sick today, and my boobs are a bit achy again so I guess they do just come and go.
The hospital I will be referred to has a walk-in session for the EPU and the dr said they might do a reassurance scan if I feel I need one. I am going to wait and see what the midwife says, as it would be too early to see anything anyway.

Trumski Thu 14-Nov-13 15:28:23

Hello everyone! I've just joined MN as I got my BFP Tuesday night and confirmed it yesterday with a CBD 1-2.

I'm bricking it. I had a MMC in March, which was only discovered at my 12 week scan and resulted in ERPC.

Been TTC since then and now i'm pregnant I'm shitting myself I wont stay pregnant!

Help! I keep poking my boobs to see if they still hurt!

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Thu 14-Nov-13 15:38:21

<<waves>> Welcome.
And try to breathe!
We have a mantra here. "Today I am PG" Bear it in mind and try not to worry about tomorrow. xxxx

Trumski Thu 14-Nov-13 15:43:55

Thanks. I cant help freaking out. I just have to keep reminding myself that THOUSANDS of women get pregnant and stay pregnant - why should I be any different?

Today I am pregnant smile

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Thu 14-Nov-13 15:50:41

Today we are pregnant! smile

livingzuid Thu 14-Nov-13 16:11:46

I poke my boobs all the time too! People at work must think I am nuts! DH thinks I am hurting myself and I always ask him to reassure me that they are still abnormally sized even tho they don't hurt too much now - more tender. For ages I couldn't go to the loo without him checking first to see if there was any bleeding sad but I think I am past that now smile

welcome and congratulations!

livingzuid Thu 14-Nov-13 16:12:20

And yes, today I am pregnant smile

Pixielady83 Thu 14-Nov-13 16:18:04

pink huge congrats! smile thanks smile baby Imogen sounds just perfect! hope you're not too sore, keep on top of the painkillers xx

kitkat so sorry to hear your news. Hope you're getting rest and TLC and to see you back here soon.

Welcome new ladies smile

TeaAndANatter Thu 14-Nov-13 16:49:05

Sorry for your news kitkat. Really rotten luck, Thinking of you x

Pink YAAAAAAYY! And gorgeous name. Very pleased for you indeed.

kjh, sorry you're sore. Hope it's a pulled muscle and it goes soon.

Hello newbies.

Heard heartbeat today at appt phew. God, I'm tired. Bitten off more than I can chew this year.

Polka2 Thu 14-Nov-13 16:49:18

Hello again to the newbies - so great so many that have experienced the heartache of mc/mmc's are finding themselves pg again! As saggy says "today we are pg" - yey indeed!

Random question but I've been the sole decorator of our new house, which has been a slow and annoying process but necessary as its a homage to 1970's however I'm not even 1/2 way there. I really want DH to get involved now his work quietens down in the winter (a bit) but he's not very keen especially if I'm not doing it too - there seems to be really varying advices about painting whilst pg and my MW sees no probs but then other good ports of advice say steer clear.............HELP?!

MissMedusa Thu 14-Nov-13 17:00:19

Welcome to the new BFP's!

My condolences kitkat it's a terrible thing to happen. I think you're doing the right thing by waiting a bit until you're ready. There's not a whole lot of evidence to back this up but I really believe that it's not a good idea to TTC directly after a MC and that it's a good idea to wait a cycle. I've just heard of too many people having 2 mc in a row and I know from myself how strange the first AF is after a mc that I just think it's a good idea to wait a cycle to clear everything out. Just my personal opinion. All the best to you.

Regarding finding out the sex, we definitely want to know. I had a scan on Monday where the doctor couldn't (or wouldn't) tell yet and I'm back again in 2 weeks at 15 weeks so am hoping to find out then. Actually really hoping to find out on my own so I can think of a creative way to surprise my DH with the news. I always imagined baking a BFP cake or something to give him the news that I was pg but I never managed to last more than 8 seconds without shouting for him to come into the bathroom and tell me if he could see a second line. BTW we are really both feeling like it's a boy.

MissMedusa Thu 14-Nov-13 17:01:43

oooh congratulations pink

Louzul Thu 14-Nov-13 17:27:46

Hurrah! This is now my Manta. Today we are pregnant!!! smile Right off to the GP's to get on the system and ask them lots of questions.

Bodicea Thu 14-Nov-13 17:37:00

Pink!!!!!! massive congratulations!!! I missed he whe build up. What a lovely name. We do have good taste I this thread. Hope you are feeling ok today and make sure you look after yourself xxxxx

Honey786 Thu 14-Nov-13 17:52:48

Pink congratulations! Imogen is a beautiful name for a beautiful name for a beautiful baby girl. Wish u a speedy recovery xx

Trumski just want to say I completely understand what ur feeling like all the ladies on here. I also had a mmc in March and found out at my 12 week scan. I'm now at 17+5 weeks and feeling so anxious. I have fx for u and everyone else on here.

And remember today we r pregnant.

BumpKitty Thu 14-Nov-13 18:07:48

This will mainly be a big rant, I'm properly fed up now, everything is pissing me off. I thought second babies were meant to be earlier, I was a second baby and I had the good grace to be 4 days early. DD was 6 days late and I went into labour on 40+5, so we are now passed that angry did I mention - I'M FED UP!!

shell how are you getting on? I promise I won't shout if you are currently having a baby grin

Huffpot Thu 14-Nov-13 18:09:08

thanks thanks pink Congratulations on your lovely little girl!thanks thanks

I have all day nausea and then get ferociously hungry.

I booked myself in with the midwives online but still need a doctors appointment to get it registered with them sigh

My MMC was found at 18 weeks after I begged the doctors to listen for a heartbeat as I knew something was wrong. Bub had died at 14 weeks so had to go in and deliver her which I was terrified about but we got to see and hold her and bring her home to bury which was lovely.
Until I get past that milestone I will fret...am scared of telling people as well in case we jinx bub! I don't want my two DS' s to get excited again either confused

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Thu 14-Nov-13 18:13:25

Actually, and without being argumentative, there is no evidence that getting pg straight away raises your chance of MC. According to [[ http://www.miscarriageassociation.org.uk/support/trying-again/ The MC Association]] there is some evidence to suggest it actually increases your chances of a sucessful pg.
Some medics suggest waiting for AF for dating purposes.
Anyway, it is entirely personal preference, and we all do what we think is best for us, I just wanted to interject. x

shellsocks Thu 14-Nov-13 18:45:42

How did you get on at the docs kjh?

Yes, happy birthday anda grin well remembered pentagon smile

Welcome trumski and congrats smile here's to an uneventful pregnancy x

I would avoid painting polka being uber cautious but not sure there's a medical reason!

I fell pregnant again 3m after both the MMC and MC saggy so not sure what that means!

Oh bump I felt like you last week when I was ill, so fed up and just desperate to go into labour...id even stopped caring what the birth was like! I'm now happy to wait to avoid induction and hopefully have that nice calm hypno/water birth I've ordered winksmile I went into labour 40+10 and DS was born 40+12 so I'm still a few days away from overtaking that. Hope it starts for you tonight bump smile No more show other signs for me today btw!

kjh5 Thu 14-Nov-13 18:54:50

No news from Shell do we think there is a baby on the way? Bump I feel for you - recently had a friend in the same boat, they ended up inducing her and baby came SUPER quick! Hopefully that's the same for you! Have you spoken to someone about induction?

Saw GP this aftn - which was a total waste of time. She told me I didn't have a urine infection, that the pain was probably not appendicitis and it didn't sound like pelvic girdle pain but she didn't want to confirm it's likely I have pulled a muscle but said I should go to the hospital if I'm worried. She didn't even listen for a heartbeat just hustled me out of there. Have just eaten an entire box of choc ginger biscuits at work to make myself feel better (needless to say I now feel ill) - hope this pain subsides by tomo I'm taking DH on a surprise mini break in Europe for his 30th...

kjh5 Thu 14-Nov-13 18:56:16

Ooh cross-posts Shell - glad you're feeling positive about it!

MeDoingMyThing Thu 14-Nov-13 19:16:38

Bump - my second DS was 14 days late! Born on the morning I was planned for induction! He's a dawdler now too! First DS was born bang on due date. I was mighty fed up of everyone telling me that 2nd babies come early. Not for me! Also tried everything - acupuncture, massage, sex, curry, pineapple etc etc. nothing would shift him. Big bugger too at 9lb 3oz.

Pink - CONGRATS and love the name. Hope all going okay and getting lots of support.

My nausea is waning now which is both welcome and also worrying. Almost 10 weeks. Have Harmony scan next week in London where I'll see the baby close up so fingers crossed all okay.

Tired beyond tired after DS2 has been up all night vomiting. Early night!

HUGE welcome to new people - sending positive baby vibes to all of you.

BumpKitty Thu 14-Nov-13 19:19:39

ugh kjh5 GPs can really be utter crap, what was the pain like? I had a sort of twanging pain with DD that felt like a tendon snapping, if you imagine the leg line of a very high cut swimsuit that is where the pain was, along that line iyswim! I think that was round ligament pain as it was after a very brisk walk back to a car park to avoid getting a ticket! Have a lovely holiday - what a lucky DH smile

oh and yes, apparently we talk induction next Wednesday - I did want to avoid it as I tore badly with DD and I had heard that there is increased risk of intervention with an induction and therefore increased tear risk. My midwife didn't seem to think that was a concern though.

shell I will try and mirror some of your good mood as the funk I am in is not helping anyone! I have ordered (another) curry and will see what the night brings!

BumpKitty Thu 14-Nov-13 19:22:36

oh no me poor DS2, I hope you all get more sleep tonight. Yes I am starting to worry about the size of this baby, perhaps its me with the baby hippo!

Louzul Thu 14-Nov-13 19:32:34

Just saw my GP, and he was great. Practical and calming. But they gave me the Flu jab. Wahhhhh! This will be fine in the first trimester right? Much better than getting actual Flu? So I'm back on the system and just keeping everything crossed. As long as I'm sensible, and look after myself, and take my multivitamins and folic Acid, then there there is no reason why this shouldn't work out! Hi Trumski. I'm scared too, but already this group has really helped me stay a teeny bit sane. At least I'm not just bending the ear of my DH all the time!!

jmf294 Thu 14-Nov-13 20:02:20

Congratulations Pink- wonderful news. Enjoy newborn cuddles. Take it easy and make sure people help you lots. It takes time to recover from a c-sec.

Happy birthday anda- hope your girls bought their mummy a lovely present!!

Welcome to the new joiners- fabulous place to find help, support and hand holding.
Thinking of you kit- sending you much strength and peace.

Well I've 11 days to go until c- section!!
Finally got round to buying some baby things, clothes, mattresses, etc.
Starting to feel a bit more real.

andthepiggotupandslowlywalkeda Thu 14-Nov-13 20:07:42

Pink, congratulations! Love the name, too!

Hi Nerd and Louzul - hope you have a nice easy boring few months ahead of you, complete with mild but reassuring pregnancy symptoms.

Kitkat, I'm so sorry to hear your news. Take care.

As for the great 'finding out' debate, I think we'd probably quite like to know. We didn't with DS, but for some reason aren't so definite this time around.

I got to see a consultant today. He was brisk, but very pleasant. The real shocker was that my appointment only started 10 minutes late, and I was in and out of the hospital in under half-an-hour, instead of the hour I'd been estimating! All fine, and heartbeats heard.

I had to take DS with me, and just commented that the inside of my tummy sounded funny. We're not telling him for a wee while yet, and he hasn't twigged. He was more interested in me having my blood pressure taken, although he did think my urine sample was medicine. 'Are they going to squirt it up your nose, mummy?' (as per his flu jab) Well I hope not, son. I hope not.

Bakingtins Thu 14-Nov-13 20:27:43

PMSL grin

BirdsDoIt Thu 14-Nov-13 20:45:32

pink awesome news and I'm so glad to hear your little Imogen is here all safe and sound, and the scary part is over. Hope you've got lots of people to scurry around doing things for you now so you can just sit on the sofa having cuddles! Gorgeous name by the way - I love it.

andthepig that's great your appt went well. Just laughed out loud on the train reading your DS's question and now people are looking at me like I'm a crazy lady smile

kjh your gp sounds rubbish. I really hope it eases off for you before tmrw. Presumably you're all dosed up on ibuprofen? Or is that banned in pg?

shell that sounds v promising and bump I hope that curry works its magic tonight!!

Really to hear what everyone else is doing about finding out the sex. Like you garden we considered just DH finding out but I know that would last about 5 minutes before I demanded he tell me!!

Welcome to all the newbies - what's going on at the moment- a sudden influx of BFPs! Yay! Today we are pregnant x

BirdsDoIt Thu 14-Nov-13 20:51:37

Also wanted to say huffpot poor you with such a late mmc - that must have been very hard. Are you getting reassurance scans for this one?

nerdy you mentioned being offered an early reassurance scan which is brilliant - you've probably had this advice already but just in case - if you can bear it, it's worth waiting until you think you're past 8 weeks so you can see a heartbeat, otherwise it might be too early and 'reassurance' is more limited. But if they'll do more than one scan I'd be there like a shot!

Sapphireday Thu 14-Nov-13 21:20:47

Hi everyone, can I join in please? After two miscarriages this year after infertility treatment I'm now rocking my first ever natural pregnancy and currently 14+2.

I think I need a fish slap, so if there are none over here would someone mind dashing over to the TTC thread? Had a bad dream last night that a tiny baby came up to me and said "I'm sorry, Mummy, I have to say goodbye". This had really weirded me out, even though I know dreams should not be interpreted as premonitions.

The smellier the better, please, as I just need to get over this!

andthepiggotupandslowlywalkeda Thu 14-Nov-13 21:26:36

-wields haddock at Sapphire a la Monty Python sketch-
Welcome, and that dream would have freaked me out properly too. Hope all goes well for you now.

BlackholesAndRevelations Thu 14-Nov-13 22:09:48

Hurray pink!! Fabulous news, congratulations. Glad she's finally here, and you're both safe and sound. I also love Imogen (think I commented on a thread you started in baby names?) enjoy her! Xx

Welcome sapphire and nerdy. Sapphire- that is a scary dream! But pregnancy does give you vivid and sometimes scary dreams- I've had nights in a row of hideous ones. Congrats smile

Lieslvontrapp Thu 14-Nov-13 22:20:45

Big congrats on your baby girl pink! Lovely name and perfect weight. Hope you recover quickly from the op.

bump & shell really hope things happen for you soon!

Welcome newbies! Lots of new bfps!

livingzuid Fri 15-Nov-13 07:20:03

Congratulations pink!

sapphire last night I had a horrible dream that my baby was the one out of toy story that was a head and a mechanic spider. Two nights ago I dreamt I had the heaviest period ever. Last week I dreamt I had a daughter who was talking to me as a baby and was possessed just like in the omen. Had to wake DH up on all occasions and get him to reassure me! Pregnancy does strange things to us!

Two weeks today I get my scan. I'm scared already. If all is well by then I will be 14+3 although I think I will be just under 14 weeks as I have a 31-33 day cycle and never ovulated on day 14 ever. I haven't had one since that 7 week nightmare and now my brain and my bipolar are going into overdrive. I didn't take my sickness medication last night because I wanted to have my Morning sickness back to reassure me. It stopping was a bit scary although nice to go out for a Thai last night! I keep trying to imagine a baby in there and the most I manage is saying to my stomach make sure you have a good placenta, an umbilical cord and a heartbeat! My lower abdomen feels very firm and I am too early to show although I had a little belly to begin with anyway (size 14 5 foot 7) - I've yet to find a picture on Google which shows what normal shaped women look like with bumps!

Sorry that's a scared rant-feeling very nervous today how will I survive the next two weeks? So mad at the hospital they were supposed to have sent a list of midwives to me so I could see one of their approved psychiatric ones and they haven't. I miss the NHS sad

Anyway, have a great Friday everyone. Must get to work.....

livingzuid Fri 15-Nov-13 07:25:25

Sorry what am I talking about I will be 13+3 I hit the 12 week mark on Tuesday. So it's not so bad to have a scan at just over 13 weeks is it? Put this down to the fact I cried when I heard Duran Duran's ordinary world on the radio today whilst the sun was rising over the motorway at the poeticness it all confused

Pixielady83 Fri 15-Nov-13 08:28:52

ooh I can't keep up. welcome to all the new ladies smile

kjh hope muscle pain eases and you have a fab mini break! smile

shell very exciting about losing plug and it sounds like you have gone into a serene pre labour state that I have read about but never personally experienced! hopefully its soon for you and bump smile

jmf glad you're feeling more prepared, it must be exciting to know the date!

first improvement in pelvic pain for me today, think baby has moved up again as def feels a lot better, phew. brilliant timing as I am Christmas shopping and lunching with one of my best friends in my favourite city Edinburgh today. Beyond excited, can you tell I haven't got out much recently grin

so any tips on where to find some Christmas maternity sparkle ladies?

GuffSmuggler Fri 15-Nov-13 09:46:36

Welcome to the newbies, this is a great place to freak out whilst appearing -vaguely normal to the outside world.

andthepig that is so funny about your DS, how old is he? My DS is 2 and 10 months and we've tried telling him about the baby but he doesn't grasp it at all.

Hope you're enjoying your tiny baby cuddles pink, so jealous!!

pgchimp Fri 15-Nov-13 10:21:38

Welcome to baby pink and to all the newbies.
I have booking in appt next Friday and scan the following Monday, when I will be 12+4. It seems so far away!

Today we are pregnant!

cosmickitten Fri 15-Nov-13 10:35:01

Congrats pink lovely lovely name.

Today is 12 week scan day for me, have the fear!

Polka2 Fri 15-Nov-13 10:42:43

Very good luck today cosmic smile

BumpKitty Fri 15-Nov-13 10:45:06

ooh good luck cosmic hope you don't have a long wait smile

kjh5 Fri 15-Nov-13 11:17:19

Morning all! Welcome newbies!

So relieved that I woke up this morning with only a mild bit of discomfort as opposed to outright agony! Was in such a state on the way home from work last night, pain was so bad convinced myself I was totally wrong about pulling a muscle and was actually gearing up for an MC. Thanks for all the advice and good wishes. Looking forward to jumping stepping gingerly onto a plane this afternoon and ignoring the mild paranoia that something might go wrong if I fly

Good luck for your scan today cosmic - hope it all goes well for you.I bet you're celebrating soon enough xx

Quick question - can any other second trimesters feel the baby moving or do you know when it first started? I'm 17+5 and could have sworn I felt something yesterday that felt like a flutter - admittedly I'm desperate to feel anything in there that doesn't involve pain or cramping, still not entirely convinced the sprog is ok after my muscle pulling adventure!

For anyone having vivid, horrible dreams - I had them almost every single night during the first trimester. I think general anxiety about it all and the fact you're having dreams anyway make them worse, it sounds awful but I dreamt I bled almost every single night (and once that I got attacked by a malevolent tree - woke DH up in a right state and was not amused when he found my dream absolutely hilarious and was laughing so much he fell off the bed). The dreams have calmed down a bit now so Fx yours will too!

Righty - best get off and pack! Hope we have some thread babies when I get back smile And good news from Cosmic as well xxxx

JanieLovesLuckySocks Fri 15-Nov-13 11:41:57

cosmic good luck for your scan, got everything crossed for you xx

kjh i hope you have lovely weekend away! i hope the pain subsides, hopefully stretchy baby pains maing room for your little bundle. sorry your doctor was so crap.

pixie, have a fab time in edinburgh - it's a fab city. not sure about xmas sparkle..i guess you're looking for a pretty outfit rather than diamonds?! heehee! i actually got a lovely tunic type top in primark a couple of sizes up, was going to wear it to my pre baby fun day but then i changed my mind as it was a bit dressy and took it back.

hello newbies, lovely to see so many new faces, sending bags full of posifrickintivity to you all.

my crazy dreams seem to have disappeared...i'm listening to a hypnobirthing cd every night when i go to bed and i seem to be sleeping really wel so now i won;t go to bed without it!

awaiting a call from the gp as i think i've got a dose of thrush sad and the pharmacist wouldn't sell me canestan without a prescription because of being pg. i was going to buy some in tescos but hopefully he can give me a script for it (and then i save £11 as well - score!). i got it for the first time about 7 weeks ago and luckily i got a script from the out of hours gp as it was bloody awful, never knew discomfort like it. definitely want it cleared up asap in case i go early.

hope things are going well for you shell....and bump i hope things hurry the hell up for you too!

pink, i hope wee imogen is settling in nicely to the pink family smile ill you be in hospital for long after the op? sending her lots of squishy baby cuddles!


shellsocks Fri 15-Nov-13 13:00:42

Hey bump Hows it going? I wanna avoid induction too as my last labour was b2b, v long and ended in theatre with a full spinal so wanna avoid the intervention route if possible smile

jmf 11 days? You'll be having your baby before me and bump wink

We don't know the sex btw (tho 99.9% sure it's a boy smile) and we did find out with DS...I was desperate to know first time but it just didn't seem as important this time, think it was cos we wanted to be ready for him, whereas I know now we don't need anything really gender specific etc. so can wait smile

Welcome sapphire and congrats smile Hope you had a better nights sleep last night x

Good luck today cosmic smile

How are you and little Imogen doing pink? x

So lost more plus today, no other signs tho!

Bakingtins Fri 15-Nov-13 13:55:05

Sapphire I win the mad dream prize because I woke DH up shouting in my sleep at someone called Jeff! blush

Good luck today cosmic

living I think we must be about the same stage, I have my OSCAR scan on the 28th and will be 13 weeks exactly. It's v nervewracking waiting.

Shell so exciting!

Hope pink and Imogen are doing well.

Trumski Fri 15-Nov-13 14:07:47

Hi all. So day 4 after BFP. Did an OPK last night that was good and positive which helped me calm a bit. I am planning to do another CBD on Sunday morning to see the numbers go up - bit scared they wont have though.

I've felt sick all day! I am also taking this as a good sign.

4+1. Counting down the days til I get a letter about an early scan!

Today we are pregnant!

jmf294 Fri 15-Nov-13 14:20:40

Good luck with the scan cosmic.
Welcome trumski- one day at a time was the only way i got through the first few weeks.

I may be queue jumping i know Shell- sorry!
My EDD on the list is 5 days wrong and now i am 37+1 and they do c-secs at 38 +3/4 here.

Feeling crappy today, was unwell in the night with indigestion which turned into a torrent of acid vomit, now exhausted and feeling guilty for sleeping in the day when i have so much uni work to do!!

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Fri 15-Nov-13 15:22:53

Trumski please do bear in mind that CBDs aren't overly sensitive, and can be out +/- 10 days. I've seen lots of people get in a tizz because they dont change when they should. £1shop cheapies are way more reliable a you can per on loads for the price of a CBD! grin wink

Trumski Fri 15-Nov-13 15:46:17

Thanks SOCP, im taking it as a good sign that it picked my pregnancy up on 12dpo then!

I just want to see the numbers go up to show the hormones are increasing. I think it will give me some reassurance before I get a scan. It helped last time, although, that didnt work out so well.

I'm also planning on doing an OPK every few days to check.

I've had quite a few symptoms already, even though its early. I've felt a bit sick all day, been very tired and my boobs hurt. I've had cramps and back ache. I'm a bit of a mess! haha

cosmickitten Fri 15-Nov-13 16:20:18

jmf sorry your feeling rotten hope it passes quickly.

trumski second saggy's warning re CBD. I used two tests from the same packet on a pee sample from the same cup. The results were a week different.

Scan really goodrasirong 12 weeks 6 due date 24th May. Starting to hope now :-)

TeaAndANatter Fri 15-Nov-13 16:28:39

Hi kjh, I've felt it for the last two weeks certainly, and some definite pokes, but it is a third, and it's sitting very low. Most of the actual pokes rather than flutters are in my vagina (I mean, that's where I feel it, not it's actually there!). Because I seem to have a saggy uterus (midwife reassures all normal), it keeps getting stuck just in my pubis region (TMI- about where the hairy bit starts), and I can't walk until it's poked up a bit (poked from the outside, not THAT much TMI!!).

Lieslvontrapp Fri 15-Nov-13 16:45:10

Congrats on the good scan cosmic! Hopefully you can relax a little now.

I'm 27+4 and started to get quite bad rib pain over the past few days which I think is made worse by sitting down all day. I thought I was having too good a run if it. Has anyone else had this and was there anything that helped relieve it?

Pentagon Fri 15-Nov-13 17:16:09

great news cosmic - congratulations!

welcome to trumski and sapphire! sapphire this dream would freak anyone out but remember, it is just a dream - your subconscious is projecting your biggest fears - we've all had some pretty crazy ones during pregnancy

jmf sorry you had a rough night. I hope sleeping during the day has helped. Uni work never ends and you wouldn't get much done when feeling crap anyway...don't feel guilty!

kjh glad you're feeling better. I hope you and DH have a wonderful weekend away!

janie I had thrush and a UTI at 35 weeks. I got pessaries, cream and antibiotics prescribed. Did you manage to see your GP?

Hi to everyone else wink

Louzul Fri 15-Nov-13 17:55:35

Hi Sapphire I have had crazy dreams too and I'm
5 weeks +1. It's our hormones!! Didn't have with my last one and then I had an MC. So trying to take it all as a positive!!smile

BumpKitty Fri 15-Nov-13 18:00:26

Great news cosmic I'm very happy for you smile

sapphire the dreams are normal, mine got even worse when I started taking iron tablets. I've had some appalling ones but it's just our brains in overdrive full of hormones.

shell nothing happening here, I have googled local reflexologists but seem to have a block about actually phoning one. Maybe tomorrow. You can't have much plug left surely! I reckon you'll be next grin, i'm feeling much less arsey today smile

andadietcoke Fri 15-Nov-13 18:49:14

ibip yay! Congratulations! Feels like a long journey we've been on together! A beautiful name. Really lovely. And an amazing birth date. When Prince Charles has this birthday party I've been romanticising about since I was about 6 she'll be able to come and meet Prince George and live happily ever after. I shall live vicariously through her.

jmf meh. They bought me wine with a tag on saying 'sorry we drive you to this'. Proper presents from them and DH to follow. Apparently.

Dealing with two grumpy babies today. Not amused (and it's a bloody good job they bought me wine!). Bathtime soon, then bed. Then wine. At least DH's rugby tomorrow is close to home.

Hello to everyone, hope you're all well, and those of you near the end aren't too uncomfortable.

JanieLovesLuckySocks Fri 15-Nov-13 19:03:41

ooh belated happy birthday anda! sorry the wee girls are grumpy booo, hopefully the wine will help ;) yay! love the prince charles party story, it will happen, i know it!

excellent scan news cosmic smile

i've just ordered a big takeaway including mucho spicy curry. yum!

my best preggo dream was that my belly was see through and i could see the baby and it had long dreadlocks but looked like my old female french teacher. that was an odd one.

Polka2 Fri 15-Nov-13 20:23:13

Yey cosmic great scan newsgrin

Sapphireday Fri 15-Nov-13 20:42:48

Thanks for the welcome and the dream stories everyone, strange what pregnancy does to us. The fish was much appreciated andthe - now when I think of that dream I have the Monty Python image in my head and I have to smile!

I think Janie gets the prize for the most messed up dream!

Shell and Bump, hope things start kicking off properly for you both soon, and you get to enjoy cuddles with your little ones. Not long now!

Penguinita Fri 15-Nov-13 20:49:48

So much going on here on this thread! I can't keep up grin.

I know I'm a bit late but massive congratulations pink and little Imogen, it must feel so amazing.

cosmic brilliant news on the dating scan. I have mine on Monday. Bricking it already. If it isn't good news I have no idea how I am going to cope. I'm really scared.

Oh the weird dreams... Mine are all about trying to find a toilet at the moment. Then I wake up and it is 4am and my bladder is fit to burst. I have no idea how I haven't peed the bed yet! grin

Pixielady83 Fri 15-Nov-13 21:48:03

I can't keep up either! anda love that your girls bought you wine grin how thoughtful!

bump phone the reflexoligist! the day I sent a desperate email to one I went into labour, you never know it may work for you too wink

janie no diamonds sadly but a sparkly maternity jumper grin a sneaky cocktail (with heaps of ice to dilute!) cakes and buying some rather gorgeous dresses for DD made my day.

Hope everyone is ok. loving crazy dreams!

Pixielady83 Fri 15-Nov-13 21:50:40

forgot to say yay for good scan news cosmic smile you must be so pleased.

penguin hope you've got plenty on this weekend to distract you from waiting for Monday. I found it easier to pretend scans weren't happening and put my panic off until the actual day but that's easier said that done I know.

JanieLovesLuckySocks Fri 15-Nov-13 23:49:12

Sorry pentagon I meant to say yes I managed to speak to the doc on the phone, thankfully not hot doc, I couldn't possibly tell him I had an itchy chuff!

Pixie I second the reflexology, I've booked in for next Wednesday in the hope it'll bring baby on!!

IBelieveInPink Sat 16-Nov-13 06:16:24

Hey all.
Thank you so much for all the lovely messages. We are doing well, but been so busy I haven't had a chance to keep up.
Too many messages to name check, but just wanted to say how lovely it is to read through and see people at all different stages of pregnancy who can help and support. For those just starting out, I know how long hard and far off it seems, but my little bundle (and others) proves it is all worth every day of the stress, worry and tears. Promise.
please note I am on day 3, aka hormonal soppy day!

Diet - belated happy birthday! Love the party idea, where does one sign up?

Bump and shell, you poor things. You must be desperate for babies by now!

Couple of things to report back from the first few days;
- Don't worry about half the stuff in your hospital bag. You won't need it. Most important - lip balm, some amazing shower gel for the first shower, and lots of nappies and cotton wool! Ooh and straws.
- if you can, get yourself a private room. You and baby will have enough to do without worrying about others. And while some of the camraderie is great, when that lady with the baby that doesn't stop crying all might because she won't pick it up to feed it joins your room, you will ask for a private room. And they will all be full.
- if having a c section, planned or otherwise, take the drugs. Regularly. When you miss one dose, you know about it.
-the second day of breast feeding is the worst. It hurts. Your nipples will feel like they are being slashed with razors. Prepare with lansoh cream. Your mantra is 'day three will be better'. Repeat. Regularly.
- when baby smiles, it's all worth it. Yes, of course it is wind, but you won't care. It's still amazing.


IBelieveInPink Sat 16-Nov-13 06:24:42

Ooh. One more. When feeding baby, make sure everything you want to do after is on the correct side if you. So if you are updating mumsnet, and plan to eat a chocolate muffin straight after yes at 6.30 in the morning make sure this muffin is within reach of your free hand before baby settles. angry

BumpKitty Sat 16-Nov-13 08:08:11

Brilliant tips ibip I had forgotten the frustration of the just out of reach remote control grin

Right, I will call the reflexologist today! The baby was very active last night, it felt like she was doing star jumps. Maybe she is having trouble finding the exit? Perhaps I need to revisit shining a torch up there smile

shellsocks Sat 16-Nov-13 08:10:19

WARNING: Mega me me me rant post confused

I was convinced I was going into labour last night hmm Felt all weird and out of sorts then after tea I had to (like weirdo compulsion) have a shower and wash my hair etc. like some sort of personal nesting I suppose! Then had womb pains?! (not quite contractions) all evening I was so sure? Then just before bed the diarrhoea came back and have woke up to nothing except the usual PGP agony. I'm so upset and cheesed off hmm

Great to hear from you pink and great advice...yes yes yes to lanisoh from day one smile

shellsocks Sat 16-Nov-13 08:13:00

Hey bump this sucks right! Hope the reflexologist gets you going, I'm reticent for some reason and I don't know why? Maybe my hideous swollen feet/legs/ankles winkgrin

Penguinita Sat 16-Nov-13 08:15:06

Thanks for such a helpful post pink, very impressive when you have your hands full! I'm curious about what the straws are for though?

Hope your little bubs decide to put in appearance soon bump and shell, the waiting sounds very frustrating.

I will be trying to keep busy this weekend to take my mind off the upcoming scan. It was DH's birthday yesterday so I'm cooking him a special meal tonight, not sure quite what yet but I expect it will involve sticky toffee pudding for dessert.

We have come up with an amusing game (which may be tempting fate slightly) of car names as baby names. Some of the best ones so far are Twingo, Touareg, Zafirra, etc. Try it with the cars around you next time you are on a long car journey. The only problem is DH has started to quite like some of them! hmm

BlackholesAndRevelations Sat 16-Nov-13 08:30:33

Are the straws for having drinks whilst in labour? I used sports bottles, water and that still lucozade isotonic stuff.

Pink! Glad all is well. Are you home? It won't be long before you can stand up and get what you need whilst keeping her latched on wink I used to chase toddler dd with ds on my boob clamped on with an arm, haha!

Hope your babies come soon shell and bump xx

Bumblebzz Sat 16-Nov-13 08:54:27

Congratulations Pink, I love your baby's name too.
And congrats on your scan cosmic, what a relief.

Welcome to the newbies, it's nice to have company, I'm only 9+3.

Had a very stressful day yesterday/day before. Got totally freaked out and paranoid because I felt "different", had weird twinges a bit like I would before a period, and felt less sick. Also my womb felt suddenly more full and heavier. All reminded me of how I felt at 10.5 weeks in Jan when a mc was diagnosed.
So off I went to EPU again (already went at 8w) and thankfully everything is fine.
I wish I could just relax now until the 12.5 w scan but I think I am going to book in for a private scan at 11w or so as 3 weeks is long enough for me to go totally insane. Plus it spans the time of my last mc which is really hanging over me. I think I read somewhere that the executed outcome stats are very positive if you have a healthy scan at 9w, does anyone have a link?


GuffSmuggler Sat 16-Nov-13 08:58:45

Talking of weird dreams, I dreamt I was in labour last night (no actual baby appeared) I'm only 24 weeks it was very scary!!

Great to hear how you are getting on pink - all very good advice. I had the biggest hospital bag ever and hardly used any of it! (stupid NCT suggesting we'd play games, read and listen to music during labour!!)

Fab news on the scan cosmic!

Oh shell poor you, getting all hyped into thinking this was it. You won't be pregnant much longer I promise and you'll forget all about these last hellish days!

IBelieveInPink Sat 16-Nov-13 09:09:57

Ah yes sorry - the strawers are for drinks. More so after labour, when you are lying down and DH passes you a drink, is much easier to drink from flat on your back if you have a strawer to hand. Rather than him pouring into your mouth, tends to go everywhere.

Oh shell. So frustrating. Come on baby whelk!!

Penguin - Haha like the car name game!

Bodicea Sat 16-Nov-13 09:15:17

Pink awesom tips:
I second the private room thing. It's hard enough coping with your own baby crying never mind other babies.

Will add a few of my own.
Pack a few nighties - like maybe four. You will want to change during the labour probably and you will sweat up on the ward as it is soooo hot. Mine were £4.50 from primark with buttons af front. Proved invaluable. Still wearing now in bed.
If like me you have sensitive skin and not compatible with lanolin get _ earth mama angel baby - natural nipple butter - it's amazing and has been my saviour.
A hairdryer makes you feel human again.
I they put you on antibiotics make sure you have some thrush treatment handy!
You need smaller baby clothes than you think. Mine was 8lb and still in tiny baby stuff now. Don't forget they lose weight after birth. He only just getting back to birth weight after two weeks. Had to send mum out for baby grows has had packed only a few newborn bits and 0-3 months which swamped him.
Especially with bf - yes they wlll lose weight - mine went down to 7lb 5 - midwife put fear of god into me- they will get back up there.

Shell and bump - hope bambino comes soon. And good luck with section jmf xxx

JanieLovesLuckySocks Sat 16-Nov-13 10:48:17

hey pink! great to hear from you! and thanks for the super tips! interesting about the private room, totally makes sense when you put it like that! if i manage to get into the midwife led unit there are 7 private rooms, but if i'm on the 'normal' delivery ward then it's very tempting to pay for my own. the only benefit of not is people say you can chat to other new mums etc but maybe the negatives outway the positives!

got a bit excited this morning as i had a mega clearout (sorry way tmi) but then realised it was probably due to the super spicy curry last night - was so spicy we couldn't even eat half of it! our gums were still numb about an hour after! ah well 39 weeks today so almost there.

and i discovered that virgin tv now have a netflix channel so i can watch breaking bad on the tv screen rather than on my laptop yissss!!!

BumpKitty Sat 16-Nov-13 11:24:24

41 weeks today and I am not amused

hey shell yes this waiting sucks ass. I have one good day then one fucked off day then a good day again - today I am fed up smile I had period pains again last night but again nothing. I have booked the reflexologist for Monday at 10.15am, she did say it'll only help if the baby is ready but it must be bloody ready - what the hell is it doing in there! I blame DH he is always faffing about. She did say that often just booking the appointment makes you go into labour, like you said pixie so I'm hoping it works. I have very manky feet so hopefully she won't be seeing them!

janie me and DH have recently discovered Breaking Bad and have been watching 2/3 episodes a night it's ace isn't it!

and yy to straws I actually used them in labour more so DH could alternate between passing me gas and air and passing me water (as the gas and air dries your mouth out a lot). Means you don't have to hold anything when you are concentrating on pushing grin

BumpKitty Sat 16-Nov-13 11:28:15

Also, whats with the forecasts of snow! I had DD during the blizzards of 2010 and we had to dig the car out of the hospital car park to get home. It was not something I thought I'd have to worry about this time!

GardenWorm Sat 16-Nov-13 13:01:06

Snow?!!!!!!! Noooooo. We won't be able to get out of the village let alone to the bloody hospital if it snows!

Nothing to report here other than me n DD have stinking coughs and colds. Catching up with friends from up country tomorrow and it's a full moon so odds are things kick off to spoil the plans. Sorry, I sound selfish! grin

40 weeks on Thursday but am happy for them to keep cooking...as long as they don't turn into hippo baby.

Good to hear from you Pink&Bod, go teams Shell&Bump, congrats Cosmic, and hello to all of you lovely newbies smile

BlackholesAndRevelations Sat 16-Nov-13 14:01:11

I had a private room with dc2 as first experience in wars was horrible. Hope there's one available this time (dp won't let me have a home birth sad)

BlackholesAndRevelations Sat 16-Nov-13 14:01:35

Ward, not wars!

Chocolateteabag Sat 16-Nov-13 14:03:06

Another one here not looking forward to the snow - but it's my stupid fault for living in the sticks where the fritters don't venture. On the plus side people have been very forthcoming on how many medically trained people live in our village (I now just need all their phone numbers to get karma on my side for a boring delivery)

35+5 today and had weird stomach cramp pains this morning - was agony esp with kicks from the inside! Shower fixed it though.

I also keep remembering things I've not yet done in the middle of the night - like batteries and new pads for my tens machine, packing hosp bag, get adapters for the pram, borrow a car seat (Sil is bring ours back at Christmas and hope to need it before then) get Moses basket out of attic and clean it blush

Pink good to hear everything is going well - watch out for day 4-5 crazy hormone crash. I actually cried that it couldn't go out to see the latest Harry Potter film on day 5 with Ds (yes really - felt I had ruined my life by having a child - hormones are weird)

Bump and shell really hope it's not too much longer for you both.

I am trying to get a ll Christmas presents ordered - currently looking at scrabble tiles on eBay with a view to making pictures/name decorations/tags. - can you tell I'm bored grin

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Sat 16-Nov-13 14:56:37

Chocolate would that be banana or apple fritters?grin grin

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Sat 16-Nov-13 14:58:53

Pink I second the 4/5 day dumps. Your milk comes in, tiredness catches you up... make sure you get lots of rest and pampering. xx

GardenWorm Sat 16-Nov-13 15:04:44

Ooh now there's a thought....must ring council (?) and see if the fritters could come wink

NerdyBird Sat 16-Nov-13 15:49:40

Hi everyone

Did some successful christmas shopping today so that is good.
My symptoms definitely come and go, but as I'm only about 5+3 I guess that is to be expected.

trumski you sound like me, I have been using OPKs instead of PG tests! I tried a CBD as there are problems dating my pregnancy and it was in line with my guess. Saving the other one for next week it ought to have moved on, but a bit scared in case it stays the same! I do know they can be a bit unreliable though.

And cosmic I'm so pleased your scan was good!

BumpKitty Sat 16-Nov-13 16:47:47

chocolate do you have a smart phone? I have an app called Any Do where you make to do lists, it's ace (i'm sure there's loads of ones like it) you can swipe through the things once you have done them, it's very satisfying. And i add things to it all the time whenever they occur to me, usually in the night smile

For those of you in the sticks, when I had DD there were lots of people told not to come to the hospital and midwives were sent out in 4x4s. You might get a home birth after all blackholes smile (bear in mind it was -17 so hopefully unlikely to happen again!).

Huffpot Sat 16-Nov-13 17:06:45

Because mine was a late miscarriage I get one reassurance scan between the 12 & 20 week scan which feels like forever.
I'm over analysing everything. ..have been in a flap bout my tummy feeling stretchy and sore today (wouldn't think I have 2 healthy DC already! ).
I keep worrying that maybe I disregarded something last time so now wrecking my own head hmm

shellsocks Sat 16-Nov-13 17:47:46

I'm so lucky my hospital is all private rooms, no ward and DH can stay the whole time (the rooms have sofa beds) was brilliant first time round smile

I agree with bod re the babygrows, we bought all 0-3m for DS as he was predicted at least 9.5lb and he was 8.8 and didn't fit them for a few weeks!

Ive finished Xmas shopping choc except for the baby grin It feels good!

What a day, thought id try doing some housework see if that kicked it off but all it did was kick my PGP into overdrive so I've been in total agony all day and just sat crying hmm poor DS and DH hmm

How you doing bump?

BlackholesAndRevelations Sat 16-Nov-13 18:15:37

Oh shell, that sounds AMAZING! private rooms that partners can stay in too!

Sorry about the pgp... Rest now xx

I have joked about having to have a homebirth due to snow.... grin might be a plan!

LuckySocks13 Sat 16-Nov-13 18:24:15

Hi all. Happy weekend. Have actually managed to get a bit of rest today as DH has been around for a change. His office hours a re a nightmare! 39 weeks today! Canny believe it! I don't think the worrying ever stops after a miscarriage (several in my case) and especially those of you with later losses but one day at a time and the end is in sight!
Heart burn / acid reflux he'll here bit no sign of bubba yet. Lovely to hear of recent births here and hoping to Herat of many more soon. She your hospital sounds like a hotel! One if the reasons I'm hoping for a homebirth is the experience I had I the wards after. No private rooms at my hospital!

BumpKitty Sat 16-Nov-13 18:53:04

Still hangin' in there shell - I think we are going to get leap frogged again soon! Your hospital sounds lovely! I had a private room for about 4 hours then got turfed out as they had to close wards because of the snow and needed the rooms for emergencies. The ward was hell. I was not in the mood for chatting with anyone, I'm nice normally honestly - just not when trying to establish breastfeeding, being on a catheter and not being allowed to leave until i'd had a poo sad

BumpKitty Sat 16-Nov-13 18:57:18

and you must rest. I understand wanting to stay active to get the baby out but PGP is a nightmare, have you got a yoga ball you can very gently bounce on?

shellsocks Sat 16-Nov-13 19:23:54

I know, I've learnt my lesson - been panicking in case i go into labour in this state hmm

C'mon bump you have to go soon!

GardenWorm Sat 16-Nov-13 19:25:40

My hospital is all private rooms too....not sure what I'm more worried by now, not being able to get to the hospital or having to cram midwives in our house with DD demanding a front row seat! Ha Ha!

LuckySocks13 Sat 16-Nov-13 20:14:39

Wow you ladies are spoilt with your private rooms! Sure there was about 6 or 8 new mamas on my ward last time! So wasn't aloud to leave until poo'd !

Huffpot Sat 16-Nov-13 20:50:13

I remember being told I wasn't allowed to leave till I pooed...I burst into tears!

Missmidden Sat 16-Nov-13 20:55:13

Is there space for another newbie, please? I am 5+4with what I hope will be DC2 having m/c at 6wks in early Sept this year, so I am in the massive fear zone right now! Lovely to see such a range here from those at the very end of the stressful process to those at the other- special hellos to*Nerdy*, Trumski, Sapphire who must be feeling much the same as me at the moment.

Reasons for anxiety: (1) minimal boob soreness (this was my only symptom with DD but that was 4 years ago and I can't remember when it kicked in- very cross with my memory!)
(2) have done a lot of HPTs which were getting nicely darker, plus a 3wks+ CBD yesterday, but today's IC line was identical to the one 2 days ago- does this mean HCG has stopped rising or has the test maxed out???
(3) sore throat most of the time for the last 10 days- believe this can indicate immune attack on embryo (last m/c was after IVF so have had a lot of investigations)
(4) still a full week to the scan I have booked

How is everyone else coping this weekend?

JanieLovesLuckySocks Sat 16-Nov-13 21:04:12

how do they know if you have pooed?

hi missmidden - welcome to the gang smile don't be worrying about the darkness of lines on the tests, in my experience they didn't mean a thing (and yes i peed on IC about 5 times a day at the start!). also symptoms come and go just to tease us. boob-poking was a favourite past time of mine!

ok so with one last week (potentially) until due date...
- do i need to prep my nips with lasinoh prior to the birth?
- is it ok to paint my nails before going in or will they make me remove nail polish?
- how often do i need to bounce on the ball / be on all fours?
- i've been listening to my hypnobirthing cd every night before bed. i guess my main query is at what stage of labour do i listen to the cd / use the techniques? it's keeping me sane in this last week, but i read a thread earlier with some people saying it did bugger all to help them and now i'm getting a little bit worried about the labour for the first time
- when labour starts, is it ok to have a glass of red wine to calm my nerves?!

BumpKitty Sat 16-Nov-13 21:48:12

right janie you did ask - there are several white plastic tubs in the shared bathroom, you pop the tub in the toilet and anything you deposit stays in the tub until the midwife has been in to see it, this means there can be several tubs of wee and poo all with names on sat on the floor of the bathroom. Oh what fun being a midwife grin (other hospitals may have a better way of doing this!)

- i dont think prepping the nips is meant to help but not sure on that one
- i wouldn't bother, if you are having an epidural they need to see the colour of your toenails to check circulation so would have to remove it.
- as often as you feel like it
- the breathing techniques and mantras were most useful to me during the transition part of labour - i'd use stuff like that when it properly starts to hurt but I think just go with when it feels right for you.
- yes i think wine would be fine. Its a good idea actually!

Welcome missmidden congrats on your BFP. I know you are anxious but your well ordered list of worries did make me smile - you must be a very organised person smile ps - all your worries are normal

For those of you who remember I went into labour with DD at my friend's wedding - she has just texted and offered to pop round in her wedding dress grin

JanieLovesLuckySocks Sat 16-Nov-13 22:15:17

oh god bump - checking poo tubs - what a horrid job! thanks for the tips smile the main reason i asked about the nail polish is i was given a voucher for a pedicure, i think i'll go for it anyway as the foot rub and scraping dead skin off will at least make my tootsies look better!
thanks for the other tips too smile especially about the vino ;) wine

shellsocks Sat 16-Nov-13 22:32:28

Dear god bump poo pots in the loos confusedgrin I stayed in hospital for two nights after DS was born and never once got asked if I had done a poo shock it took me days I was so worried abt the stitches and had to have lactoluse in the end...thank god I didn't have to stay in!

I didn't hypno birth at all last time but have listened every night for a few weeks now too. I'm down with the breathing etc. still not sure I will use visualisation? Altho thinking of DS may help. My last labour started with frequent and v painful contractions with no build up so assuming it's the same I intend to use it from the beginning and try and breathe thru each contraction, god knows if it will work tho!

I've just had a glass of red wine now cos of pgp pain so if you can stomach it (I was nil by mouth/nothing by exit wink last time) I don't see a problem!

Welcome miss and congrats smile Hope you have an uneventful pregnancy x

bump I keep washing and wearing the dress I went into labour wearing last time, it ain't working wink

JanieLovesLuckySocks Sat 16-Nov-13 22:40:27

My yoga teacher suggested a visualisation technique. Imagine your baby is wrapped in ice and with each out breath you are melting some of the ice around him/her. So with each out breath you are getting closer to meeting your baby and the longer you can breath out each breath, the more ice you will melt. Not sure if that makes sense, but if you didn't like the ice idea you could even imagine blowing petals away from around the baby, or cotton wool or something like that.
I've also read of someone concentrating on one thing in the room eg a droplet of water in the side if the birthing pool or a dot on the wall.

Bump I live that your friend offered to come round in her wedding dress!!! Brilliant!!

GardenWorm Sat 16-Nov-13 23:05:57

Janie that actually sounds lovely, bet I can't do it though!

They asked about pooh and I just said no I hadn't but I wasn't that regular anyway so it wasn't unusual and they didn't seem bothered. I was asking straight away pretty much when I would be able to leave so not sure whether this had a bearing on it? Frankly I was in no mood to pooh! Surely they can't kidnap you and hold the contents of your bowels to ransom awaiting poopage? That would be a mega pressure poop and would take days and costs the NHS thousands grin

BumpKitty Sat 16-Nov-13 23:40:49

yes it is a lot of pressure! I had my in laws bringing me orange juice and liquorice in an effort to make me go blush I think they are especially keen on the poo if you have had stitches or a c-section as the pain killers make you constipated (the medical staff that is - not my in laws!).
Anyway, that's enough poo chat from me, off to bed - bring on that full moon!

Bodicea Sun 17-Nov-13 04:19:11

Think all hospitals are different, mine weren't bothered if I had a pooh or not before I left.
I also had nail polish on toes and feet and they never said anything when I had an epidural ( apart from doc commenting my toenails were nice). My fingernails were pale (almost clear) so maybe that helped. Maybe go for clear/ French on either the hands/or toes or both if you are worried - but don't let it stop you Getting a pedi janie
Pregnant feet need pampering xxx

kjh5 Sun 17-Nov-13 07:00:04

Morning everyone! Just logged on for some thread comfort (it's oddly helpful to read about pooh worries at 6am ) and in the hope that someone might be able to give me a proper good fish slap! Still in Europe with DH , mostly having a lovely time apart from the (possibly pulled muscle) pain which turned into outright cramping right across my abdomen in the early hours of this morning - so what I'm looking for is some reassurance that this is ok and totally normal at 17/18 weeks because I've spent the last hour fending offa major panic attack and the conviction something has gone horribly wrong!

Bless DH - he offered to find a hospital for me to go to but the rational part of me is sure this is probably normal and I'm definitely not bleeding or having any other worrisome signs so trying to convince myself this must be normal. Flying home tonight and will call the midwife first thing tomo to see if someone can't see me just to give some reassurance but any helpful MN advice/fish slaps would be appreciated in the meantime!

Hope everyone else is still having a lovely uneventful weekend!

Penguinita Sun 17-Nov-13 07:22:09

shock at the thought of all the poo tubs lined up for the midwife. I'm sure it must be tempting to take someone else's and pretend it is yours to get out of there! My MIL recently went in for heart surgery and she wasn't allowed to leave until after a poo either, which wasn't easy as the hospital food was minging and she didn't want to eat any of it.

Very jealous of all private rooms too. My MLU has two but you have to pay £100 a night for them and you can't reserve them in advance, so it is pot luck whether you get one.

Welcome to missmidden, nerdy, sapphire, trumski and any other newbies I have missed. Congrats on your BFPs! These first few weeks are so tough, when you are worried all the time and desperate to talk to people but too scared to tell anyone. This thread has been a real lifeline for me.

Whilst talking about nail polish, is it safe to have a shellac manicure when pg? I used to have them all the time but stopped for the first trimester. I might treat myself to one if I make it to the second!

katatonic Sun 17-Nov-13 08:20:13

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shellsocks Sun 17-Nov-13 08:31:16

Hey janie it's that kind of thing that sounds great but I just can't imagine using iyswim but all you can do is try at the time I guess!

What's this abt the full moon bump?

Sorry your having a stressful time away kjh hmm all sounds like it could be normal to me, hope your MW can reassure you when you get back x

I've had acrylics/shellac in later pregnancy but just got it took off...more as I can't imagine being arsed with the upkeep once baby is here tbh wink

No news from me, pains have eased tho so happy to go in to labour now today! bump any signs?

BumpKitty Sun 17-Nov-13 09:06:46

Women often go into labour on the full moon so I'm hopeful for us smile
No signs, but I have my sweep today so positive thoughts please! <opening like a flower>

BumpKitty Sun 17-Nov-13 09:08:07

kjh you are definitely at the right time for stretching pains. I know it's hard but try and take your mind of it with some sight seeing xx

kjh5 Sun 17-Nov-13 09:47:38

Thanks for the reassurance Kat, Shell and Bump! I do feel better now I've had some more sleep, being this neurotic is one thing I won't miss about pregnancy smile

Sending out a warm welcome to our newbies! And thinking of you both today Bump and Shell - sending out lots of positive thoughts for two lovely squishy full moon babies xx

shellsocks Sun 17-Nov-13 09:48:06

Good luck bump hope you're already dilating and they can do a good one smile

Fx for you bumpsmile, hope your sweep gets you your baby x

Louzul Sun 17-Nov-13 10:02:02

Hi MissMaiden Nerdy Sapphire and Trumski! We have BFP's and are around the same time. I 'm 5+4. My dates for my booking in appointment and nuchal scan came yesterday and made me feel excitement and fear. I never made it to that stage last time. Lots of twinges and stabbing pains last night whilst cooking dinner, and started to get the fear!

Actually ladies I need advice. I am due to go to on a work trip to Amsterdam on December 13. However this is bang on the same time in my PG, that I had my MC last time, and I'm terrified of something happening when I am away from the DH, and just with some work colleagues. I'm being stupid aren't i?

And Poo pots?!? I had no idea!!!shock

Louzul Sun 17-Nov-13 10:03:13

Ohh and Good luck Bump and shell. Here's to some full moon babies!! grin

katatonic Sun 17-Nov-13 10:10:24

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Pixielady83 Sun 17-Nov-13 10:16:08

bump I love that your friend offered to come round in her wedding dress grin my DD was born in 2010 blizzards too, exciting times!

hope the full moon works some magic for bump and shell and anyone else keen to go a bit early!

so jealous of private rooms, we asked last time and they keep ours for v ill people which I suppose is fair. I kept my curtains closed and was totally anti social last time. Everyone else on the ward was very young and I did spend the first day thinking probably bit snobbish, sorry where are all the mums like me! no pooh checking at my hospital either, they believed me when I told them. they did check wee though. I made sure I had plenty of bran flakes after. Also, if you end up catheterised it might be a good idea to take some cartons of cranberry juice in, I'm prone to UTIs and was a bit worried about the catheter causing probs. think the benefits of cranberry juice have been queried since then but it felt like I was doing something proactive to prevent probs. Drinking plenty of water prob does just the same.

welcome miss sorry you're so worried. I hope the weeks waiting for your scan go quickly xx although I felt rubbish in first trimester and scared stiff I filled the weekends with activities and meeting friends and it was a good distraction, that might help.

kjh sorry you're not enjoying your break, it does sound like ligament stretching. I remember going on holiday at 17 wks first pregnancy and the night before we flew I had really bad pains and was totally panicking but it was all stretching. Hope you enjoy the rest of your break xx

janie yes to wine at on set of labour! although this time I'm considering whisky to properly take the edge off wink so interested to see how you get on with the hypno, I haven't finished my book yet and am humming and haaing over buying the cd. I want to believe it could work but I have such a miserable cynic in my head who I fear could win out! still nothing lost if it doesn't work. I think keeping calm in labour is at least half the battle and if it helps with that then that's got to be a good thing.

Chocolateteabag Sun 17-Nov-13 10:31:46

blush - meant gritters not fritters blooming iPad no smart phone here ( don't count my blackberry as "smart")

Janie - I am getting my toenails done this week and usually have nails done. Plenty of people have gel nails and emergency ops so sure they'll manage. I think it's just one of they ways they can tell you blood oxygen levels anyway.
Penguin - I have never seen anything about shellac being unsafe in pregnancy - I guess you will probably find someone saying it's BADDD!! If you google enough, but really can't see that it will be bad.

New ladies - congratulations on your BFP's - "Today we are pregnant"!!
Try not to stress on symptoms or pee sticks too much. But if you need to - Fertility Friend.com link has a gallery of test pictures which if you have got to a plateau of colour may be a help. Eventually your hcg levels do reach a limit - which is why tests like CBD's only go to 5 weeks plus.

kjh - hope you are now sightseeing but does sound like stretching pains. Or your body sense you've pulled a ligament (my guess) and is trying to protect itself by cramping up around it. Try breathing through cramps to get them to "release" if that makes sense. Then once you are home, lots of rest to get the pulled muscle/ligament to heal itself.

Chocolateteabag Sun 17-Nov-13 10:32:27

Senses not sense - sorry my baby brain is in full force now - typos all over the place!!

Chocolateteabag Sun 17-Nov-13 10:36:15

Louzul - i would get yourself as prepared as possible by finding out details of nearest hospital and OOh doctors in Amsterdam (maybe out a post on Chat forum for a Dutch mner to advise) then if the worst does happen, you have the numbers ready.
Then just do your best to try to forget about it (yep I know - will be tough)

BumpKitty Sun 17-Nov-13 11:38:25

Right, I have been swept, it wasn't too bad. She managed to touch the baby's head, which seems alarming to me but i dont know where else i was expecting the head to be! she said I need to get my cervix softer and suggested a walk and some sex - what a faff grin
my lovely brother has collected DD for the day so I may have to partake in some afternoon delight, come on sperm, gravity and the moon all do your stuff please! (and for shell too!)
Big wave to everyone else, sorry I'm so self absorbed!

Pixielady83 Sun 17-Nov-13 12:24:18

ooh good luck bump! hope it all works for you.

louzul think that's really good advice about your Amsterdam trip. Hopefully everything will be absolutely fine for you though but totally understand your concerns xxx

JanieLovesLuckySocks Sun 17-Nov-13 12:32:38

Oooh bump bring on the baby!! Glad to hear it wasn't too uncomfortable for you! I'd love a full moon baby smile

And thanks all for your tips on the nail polish/ hypno / poo!!

Huffpot Sun 17-Nov-13 13:43:42

Good luck Bump! I had 2 sweeps with DS1 & nothing, had 1 with DS2 & it started me within 5 minutes grin

Louzul Sun 17-Nov-13 15:32:42

Thank you katatonic chocolate and Pixie. Great advice. thanks Also I remembered that in our Dutch office in Amsterdam there are two ladies with little ones who will always be able to help if the worst happens. I'll do a bit of research!

Currently sat on the sofa, in comfy clothes procrastinating about doing some work. . Welcome miss what a lovely lot of BFP's we have. Remember. Today we are pregnant!!

Lieslvontrapp Sun 17-Nov-13 16:46:08

Bump hope the combination of the sweep, walk, sex and full moon gets things going for you! thanks

Pentagon Sun 17-Nov-13 16:54:25

bump good luck my lovely! Go go go! x

shellsocks Sun 17-Nov-13 17:33:13

Hey bump glad your sweep was successful and not too bad...hope you and DH had a nice afternoon wink Now c'mon babybump grin

You're making me feel the pressure and thinking me and DH should DTD too, PGP has put me off till now but I'm due another sweep tomorrow and I found last weeks quite painful so it may be worth a go!

LuckySocks13 Sun 17-Nov-13 18:15:50

I was told at my HypnoBirthing class that it is oral sex and nipple stimulation that can kick start labour! Hugs before drugs! ;)

BlackholesAndRevelations Sun 17-Nov-13 18:20:00

Go bump!! And bump's husband's little swimmers! Get that baby out!! grin

JanieLovesLuckySocks Sun 17-Nov-13 18:20:01

ha lucky i was reading the hugs before drugs buts again last night!!

BumpKitty Sun 17-Nov-13 19:53:39

Hmm, yesterday DH told me blowjobs brought on labour - I was suspicious! I'm assuming you mean oral sex on the woman though - I'm not keen with the state of my nethers!
Well, I've lost some plug, I'm not sure if its just plug or waters, does plug have liquid with it (I never had plug last time!). Because of the not knowing if it was waters we haven't dtd, I will try later if no more liquid comes out - it hasn't been a huge amount confused
I'm getting period pains too but nothing different to earlier in the week so far.

LuckySocks13 Sun 17-Nov-13 20:18:30

I'm feeling quite twingy tonight. Bump it is us giving the men satisfaction unfortunately! It's meant to be something to do with swallowing the sperm! Nipple tweaking is meant to stimulate the uterus. Know which il be trying first!

LuckySocks13 Sun 17-Nov-13 20:19:12

Ou loosing plug. This is a good sign smile

GardenWorm Sun 17-Nov-13 20:19:15

Ooh Bump I don't know about the plug as I didn't see it last time but when my waters went they were only a trickle followed by mild period pains which intensified! Sounds pretty darn positive to me smile

Bet your other half is gutted he's going to miss out on the nookie grin

Good luck x

GardenWorm Sun 17-Nov-13 20:21:27

Ooh go Lucky! Apparently the nipple tweaking has to go on for 3 hrs or something stupid....sounds more painful than breast feeding!

BumpKitty Sun 17-Nov-13 20:26:53

Shit, you're telling me he was telling the truth! It must be a coincidence as I'm sure he was just trying it on hmm

LuckySocks13 Sun 17-Nov-13 20:31:30

Oh Lordy Garden. 3 hours sounds a lot. I was hoping just a quick tweak might suffice ;) DH has actually been sleeping in the other room for a few weeks now as I'm so large in bed and wake lots with heartburn and such like. Can't see there being much of anything else going on! I'm also very swollen where I'd rather not be! Anyone else?!

BlackholesAndRevelations Sun 17-Nov-13 20:31:40

I've heard that too, bump! At my Nct class of all places!! Nit sure if it works though as obviously didn't try it..... hmm

BumpKitty Sun 17-Nov-13 20:58:24

yes lucky - my swollen bits are not enjoyable - I described mine to my friend as like a child's armband grin she hasn't got kids yet, I may have scared her off!

shellsocks Sun 17-Nov-13 21:00:22

Go bump and lucky grin Hope we get some babies tonight/tomorrow smile

LuckySocks13 Sun 17-Nov-13 21:23:13

Lol lol bump. Very accurate. Am a bit concerned about a baby having to pass through the swollen area! Not sure if I've been standing up too much today (went to a kiddies party) or if something going on. Having right stabby pains down into the fanjo area. Who knows! Am 5 days off estimated date and DS was 3 days after his date so will see.

CbeebiesIsMyLife Sun 17-Nov-13 21:47:18

Hi just checking in. Hope everyone is doing well.

I'm lurking here feeling pretty rubbish at 15 weeks.

Bump it sounds pretty positive smile are you prepared for a baby within 2 weeks? probably sooner but dont want to get your hopes up!

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Sun 17-Nov-13 21:47:57

Apparently, climbing the stairs sideways like a crab helps bring things on. It kind of works the head down into the pelvis.

Would now be a good time to mention that up to 2 weeks late is quite normal? <<being a rotter>>

CbeebiesIsMyLife Sun 17-Nov-13 21:49:31

(oh and on the day dd2 was born dh and I were awake at 5am we had some fun including tweaking, probably about an hour and by 12pm I was 6cm dilated!)

JanieLovesLuckySocks Sun 17-Nov-13 23:09:44

oooh bump and lucky i'm getting well jel!!! especially you lucky as we have the same EDD!! oooooh this is exciting!! not sure if DH will get any loving off me.... that nice canestan pessary is causing some lovely chalky discharge, how sexy! i read that the sperm softens the uterus, so not sure how giving him a blow job would help haha!! as my midwife said...it was the sexy hormones that got the baby in there in the first place, it'll be the same ones that gets the wee one out! haahaa!!

oooh i predict the arrival of 2 babies tomorrow!

BumpKitty Sun 17-Nov-13 23:20:19

Water have broken! On the tens machine now just wondering what to do next. Contractions aren't mega painful yet.

smile Yay bump, hopefully you will have a baby by tomorrow! Exciting times!

& fx for you too Lucky, although i'm pretty sure it will have nothing to do with swallowing spermgrin, your dh is selling you a crafty tale there!

Pentagon Sun 17-Nov-13 23:49:18

oh lucky exciting! More thread babies soon!

jmf294 Mon 18-Nov-13 06:37:24

Hope you had a productive night Bump !!
Fingers crossed for you too Lucky that things are happening.

Hope you all have a good week ladies.
Today I am off to hospital for my pre-op check- 1 week to go.
Had the MIL tell me last night that shes coming down this weekend, err no you are not!! She also said she will come straight down when the baby is born! Trying not to stress but it winds me up and i'm worried enough about it all without that!!

Lieslvontrapp Mon 18-Nov-13 06:45:11

Oh bump hope things progressed well through the night and we'll get some baby news today.

Chocolateteabag Mon 18-Nov-13 06:58:37

Ooh very exciting - maybe we have the next thread baby already? Fx Bump and Lucky

Jmf - 1 week til you are due or til CS? As in do you have any control on when you tell MIL that you've had the baby? Once she does arrive is she going to expect you to wait on her? (Sorry if you've already posted on this - brain fried) as otherwise - if she is offering to come and help, just try to take it at face value. If she then monopolises the baby, use the time to sleep and have baths etc (you will want to and you won't get the time later).

LuckySocks13 Mon 18-Nov-13 07:02:53

Meh. No baby just a terrible nights sleep. Look forward to hearing from bump

jmf294 Mon 18-Nov-13 07:39:32

Chocolate- one week till c-sec. We havent told her the planned date yet.
I understand my MIL's excitement- well sort of, as before my MC she used to say she didnt want any more grandchildren as she had 2 children and they both had 2 children, which is bloody rude.
She has a habit of inviting herself, and not realising that people around her are struggling and need peace and space.
She will help but will want to be here cuddling baby all the time and making remarks about him needing a feed again!!
After my first baby was born she managed to get onto the recovery ward after my c-sec and then the day i was discharged she and fil and sil, bil and their baby spent the whole day at our house, i hadnt slept all week, was sore, baby wouldnt latch on, i cried a lot!!!
My DH is fully aware of how i feel and said he will be clear with some boundaries for her.

Penguinita Mon 18-Nov-13 08:04:14

Ooh bump, how exciting! Hope all is going well, looking forward to some news.

Oh dear about your mil jmf, it amazes me that people who have had babies before seem to have no recollection of how hard it can be. Hope your DH stands up to her.

I'm feeling super sick with worry this morning. My dating scan is this afternoon and I don't have a very good feeling about it sad. Wishing emki good luck for her scan today too.

shellsocks Mon 18-Nov-13 08:04:37

Ooo bump hope you have your baby now, very excited for you grin

LuckySocks13 Mon 18-Nov-13 08:22:53

No news yet from bump. That's positive smile
Penguin- pre scan doom is horrid. Will be thinking of you today. Try and keep busy until it's time to go.
Jmf - glad your DH on the case of your DMIL! I'm lucky really with my inlays but I had postnatal depression last time and have told my husband that I need to see how I feel before being overrun with visitors. Binding must come first. I really struggled with feeding and was made worse constantly having people around.
So tired today after not much sleep with acid reflux and stabby pains. Thankfully DMIL got DS for a few hours today. Had him all day last week mostly and it totally exhausted me!

Lieslvontrapp Mon 18-Nov-13 08:25:42

Good luck with the scans pengiunita & emki!

BlackholesAndRevelations Mon 18-Nov-13 08:27:54

Aw good luck bump!! Eek!

Hope you haven't got much longer to wait, lucky.

I have a fab mil, although with dc1 I wanted to yell at her to back the f* off! She has mellowed a lot since then and is now nothing but helpful, thank god! She's so good with my two dc.

BlackholesAndRevelations Mon 18-Nov-13 08:29:50

Ooh has shell gone quiet or is it just me?! I've just been catching up with some work at the breakfast table fir the second day in a row whilst dc watch cbeebies... Feel awful about it sad

Good luck for the scan penguin, hope yours wearing your lucky socks xxx

shellsocks Mon 18-Nov-13 08:30:35

Oh jmf I feel your pain my PILs are not very nice people hmm Had to endure then yesterday talking to each other about how fat I was last PG confused WTAF?! Glad your DH is supportive.

Good luck for this avvy penguin smile

Sorry you had a bad night lucky but hope this means things are happening!

Got a second sweep later, hope it has the same effect as bump!

BlackholesAndRevelations Mon 18-Nov-13 08:42:48

Oops, cross posted! Hi shell grin

katatonic Mon 18-Nov-13 08:46:50

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Pixielady83 Mon 18-Nov-13 08:50:14

loads of luck today penguin and emki xxx

bump exciting! hopefully we will have baby news soon! lucky sorry your pains have come to nothing. thinking of you, shell and janie let's hope this is your week too!

jmf I think we have compared completely insensitive MIL notes before, grr to her stressing you out! I hope you can get DH to hold her off. We have been v firm on no visitors til week 2 this time and SIL has promised to supervise MIL this time too to ensure visits are appropriately short. Good luck.

pgchimp Mon 18-Nov-13 09:03:55

good luck today emki and penguin. I am a week behind you and definitely feel your panic!

Hope to hear about some more thread babies soon.

We haven't told my parents or mil yet, and I am dreading telling mil as she is a retired nurse and over medicalises (is that a word) everything!

GardenWorm Mon 18-Nov-13 09:13:02

Thinking of you team Bump xxx

Good luck today with the scans Penguin&Emki

jmf how the hell have you bitten your tongue for so long? I would have lost it by now, she needs to let go of her not so little boy and let his family do what's right for them. Seriously I couldn't cope with that interfering, can't you just say no you can't come and then blame it on the hormones if you really have to?

Shell hope the sweep works some magic for you today x

Another crap nights sleep for me but due to horrible cough and wheezing chest which is pulling what's left of my stomach muscles and probably crushing baby! You can go now cough I have endured enough and do not want your 'assistance' in labour!

Trumski Mon 18-Nov-13 09:18:47

Hi all.
I got 2-3 on the CBD yesterday! Yay! My goal of getting past the day my AF was due and getting a 2-3 has been reached!
I am now hoping to get to the weekend and hopefully will have an early scan date by then. Fingers crossed!

BumpKitty Mon 18-Nov-13 09:32:57

I have a baby! She was born at 4.46 am and was 8lbs 2oz. Labour was interesting but I'll fill you in later! She is called Matilda and is incredible! Hope to be home later today xx second degree tear this time xx

Polka2 Mon 18-Nov-13 09:34:59

Bump amazing news and love the name Matildagrin huge congrats and enjoy every minute!

Huffpot Mon 18-Nov-13 09:46:44

Huge congratulations Bumpthanks Delighted she's here safely

Pixielady83 Mon 18-Nov-13 09:48:08

hooray for bump what a lovely quick labour (well apart from the tear, sorry to hear about that). Matilda is a gorgeous name smile many congratulations on her safe arrival thanks thanks thanks

so there we go, proof that sweeps can work!

trumski yay for that milestone smile

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Mon 18-Nov-13 09:51:09

Good luck Bump and Shell. I really hope you have your lovely babies now!
Jmf I'd be tempted to not tell MIL that baby was here for at least a week!
Trumski Yay! that's great. Another week to cross off the calendar! Before you know it there will be more weeks crossed off than left. That's when the fear really hits! grin
Good luck anyone with a scan today, im on my phone so can't check back mid post for names.
ive had a really shit night. and day actually.
yesterday was my first day off after working solid. I'm always so tired that day, I just hide usually. But yesterday we had to go visit DPs relatives. DPs older brother came up. Apparently he was out doing the rounds the day before. He takes great delight in taking the piss out of DP, and has been going round saying things like how he doesn't suppose dp had any say in getting pg, all really petty stuff but which really upset my quiet little dp and gives me the rage. Combine this with posting fb pictures mocking people with Down's, he doesn't know, he's just generally a twat and im thoroughly pissed off. We have to spend Christmas with them and the rest of the family. I'm really stressing. Then I was snappy all day and dp, who knows what I'm like after work was totally unsympathetic and just left me alone all night to fester. So all I've done all night is lie awake stressing and crying. I have to go to London tomorrow for another fetal cardiac scan and I have the doom, and Im just a gibbering wreck today.
Those pg hormones have really hit with a vengeance today! sad <<sorry for the rant>>

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Mon 18-Nov-13 09:53:39

Oh, and I cross posted with Bump! congratulations lovely, thats bloody brilliant! I love the name Matilda! smile smile

shellsocks Mon 18-Nov-13 09:54:55

Yay! Congrats bump glad to hear you and Matilda are doing well smile So happy for you xxx

WhatWillSantaBring Mon 18-Nov-13 10:00:08

Yippee thanks thanks - Congrats Bump and Matilda (lovely name). I'm so so happy for you.

Speedy gonzales when she got going, wasn't she grin.

Good luck today emki and penguin. Your instincts for scan day are not to be relied on - I had an overwhelming instinct that it was all going wrong, but all was fine.

liesl (I think it was) - sore ribs, especially on the right hand side, sounds like Rib Flare. I had this with DC1 and had no idea what it was (thought it was a bad back and feet being wedged under my ribs) but having read up on it since, its caused by your diaphram (sp?) getting pushed up by the uterus till its under your ribs, and then putting pressure on them. The best/only things to help (for me) are lying down, and sitting with my right arm up behind my head. Tis agony - and so you have my full sympathy.

34 weeks now - better start packing hospital bag. I really hope this little critter is early, because I don't want to be hanging around till mid January…

Still can't post on MN at work so apologies if I'm really quiet. I am lurking every day though grin

NerdyBird Mon 18-Nov-13 10:04:11

Ooh congrats on the new arrival bump!
Let's hope the others that are imminent come soon!

Good luck to those having a dating scan today, I hope to reach that milestone in this pregnancy.

I tested with the second CB digi this morning. It seemed to take AGES but it came up with 3+ which is what I was hoping for. I assume the tests do some type of measurement of the level of HCG in order to give the weeks so I'm a bit hopeful that 's a good sign. Also feel a bit sick today.

Last time everything stopped around this time, although I didn't find out until about 8 weeks so it's a bit of a nerve wracking time for me!

Pixielady83 Mon 18-Nov-13 10:15:39

oh saggy I'm so cross with your BIL! what a twunt angry that's so rubbish that you'll have to spend Christmas with him, does it have to be the whole day or can you talk to DP and come to compromise arrangements? really hope tomorrow's scan goes ok. Do they check for the same things each time or is it different checks? at least you get to see ryvita again!

hi santa not too long now!

GardenWorm Mon 18-Nov-13 10:21:55

Whoop! Bumpety Bumpety Bump! Fabulous news, many congratulations to the Bumps and welcome to the world young Matilda. Hope you manage to get yourselves home today xxx

Saggy he sounds like a knob. Can do without people like that around you. What goes around comes around. Try and get some r&r before your scan it will help to lift the doom. XXX

Whoop, whoop bump thanksthanksthanks
A huge congratulations to you & mr bump, good size toosmile
Knew you would have a baby by todaysmile xx

katatonic Mon 18-Nov-13 10:47:03

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Mon 18-Nov-13 11:02:09

Thanks, TBH if it gets to Christmas and he decides to be a cock, I will just walk out. It's been a while since I've used the word 'cunt' at the Christmas dinner table!

GuffSmuggler Mon 18-Nov-13 11:15:49

Horray bump!! Wonderful news grin So jealous you have a little newborn in your arms, enjoy every second!

saggy sorry you had a crap day BIL sounds like a right idiot.

kjh5 Mon 18-Nov-13 11:25:13

YAY bump!!! What a gorgeous name, congratulations on your precious little girl smile I predict two more thread babies this week - hope the others are doing ok and not getting too frustrated xxx

JanieLovesLuckySocks Mon 18-Nov-13 11:28:47

yaaaaaay team bump go on ya good thing!! delighted for you - sounds like a quick labour for sure, sorry you had the tear, hopefully baby cuddles make up for the pain smile love her name as well, so pretty.

now come on team shell i predicted 2 babies today so i think you're next smile

saggy you must have bitten your lip off not saying something to your horrid BIL. why do some people just not know when to stop and realise what they are saying. i hope the thought of spending time with him isn;t putting a dampner on your christmas plans x

good luck with your scans today emki and penguin x

garden hope things start soon for you as well. and hope your nasty cough does one, how very inconsiderate.

i just had the health visitor come round for a visit....was a bit worried that she'd want to look in all the rooms and check under the beds and sofas for dirt! actually she was lovely and just gave some advice and answered any queries i had.

i've got reflexology booked for wednesday and will be offered a sweep at my term appointment on friday. now what's this i was reading about clary sage oil?!?!

kjh5 Mon 18-Nov-13 11:34:15

Oh saggy I hope you are feeling better today and am keeping all my fingers and toes crossed for the cardio scan tomorrow. I totally sympathise with your awful BiL - some people are just rude and completely insensitive. And its worse when you feel like you are dealing with things on your own. I'm a champion for taking out all my worries on DH. He seems to have developed an incredibly thick skin over the past four months! Sounds like you have done a great job reigning in your temper - I would have absolutely lost it if I'd heard one of DH's family being like that!

Thinking of both Penguin and Emki today!! You guys will be fine - let us know how it goes. I think its a big week for scans as well isn't it? Good luck everyone else, hope you are all ok xxx

Pixielady83 Mon 18-Nov-13 11:45:32

saggy I think that would be entirely justified if his current behaviour reflects a trend! and just think how satisfying to see everyone's faces <laughs darkly>

garden hope you feel better soon, that cough sounds rubbish sad

kat sorry about your doppler panic - I have to admit I've been too scared to use my angel sounds for months now! It helps that baby moves every day but if I couldn't find a heartbeat I would totally freak out. I don't really think it's worth me having it tbh as if I didn't feel movement now I'd go directly to hospital rather than scaring myself with it. I'm sure that hb is ok though - DD was always slow, hence one of our reasons for thinking she was a boy (apparently they are meant to have slower hbs?). Maybe it's a blue one! Or maybe not, based on my experience(!)

Janie clary sage is meant to be good stuff - I got some last time, and used it in an oil burner one eve to see what it was like, and actually felt tightenings! could be I am highly suggestible however grin I never used it in the end as didn't get to due date but was planning on lots of clary sage massages if I had gone over (think you need to mix just a couple of drops into a carrier oil). Something I have just remembered, which is probably entirely coincidental, but last time I did read that evening primrose oil was meant to help ripen the cervix - I went into labour the first day I took a capsule but I'm sure that was just a coincidence. I think you can use capsules as a pessary as well because it has similar stuff to sperm and so good if applied pretty close to cervix? You would probably have to pierce the capsule though. I will try and do some research on this but that was in my plan of action last time along with the reflexology if I hadn't gone into labour by due date!!

JanieLovesLuckySocks Mon 18-Nov-13 11:53:53

oh pixie thanks for the awesome tips! they sound promising smile i might get some clary sage oil tomorrow. however i have my pedicure booked for wednesday morning as well and i have visions of m waters breaking in the beauticians face while she paints my toes. oh crumbs!! haha!

Pixielady83 Mon 18-Nov-13 11:54:59

Have done a quick google search and can't find anything concrete on evening primrose oil, just a lot of anecdotal stuff so not sure that recommends it really. It does contain prostaglandins (sp?!) like sperm but apparently that doesn't mean it'll ripen the cervix unless your cervix is getting there already itself.

Pixielady83 Mon 18-Nov-13 11:55:54

grin janie now that would be a pedicure the beautician would never forget!!

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Mon 18-Nov-13 12:04:19

Pixie it wouldn't be the first time! blush

jmf294 Mon 18-Nov-13 12:14:40

Huge congratulations Bump!! Well done and what a beautiful name.

Saggy- sorry to hear about your BIL, what an ignorant arse!!

Good luck with your scan Kat- everything crossed for you.

Thinking of all those with scans and due dates approaching.

kjh5 Mon 18-Nov-13 12:30:20

oh Kat I just saw your post about your doppler worries. I did ask the midwife about that, she said the average is between 110bpm and 160/180bpm depending on whether the baby is resting or moving around a lot. She couldn't find my bean's heartbeat for ages and said it was probably facing the wrong way. If it took you a while to find it could be that the bubba was both resting and facing the wrong direction. I know I am one to talk given my panic over the weekend but I am sure there is a bit of scan doom feeding into your worries and that everything is going to be absolutely fine when you have your scan.

I have just ordered a doppler - it is arriving tomorrow... I am not sure if it is a good idea or not! I said a few weeks ago that I was definitely not going to get one but now I just want some reassurance that everything is ok in there despite the abdominal cramping I have been getting. Although yesterday for the first time I swear I felt the baby move! It felt like someone softly flicking me with their finger from inside my lower tummy (does this sound like what it feels like for anyone who knows?)

I jumped out of my skin the first few times it happened which DH thought was hilarious and then felt it loads all through yesterday afternoon and evening, especially when we were on the plane. Haven't felt a thing today though (apart from more general cramping) so am beginning to wonder if it was just my imagination!

shellsocks Mon 18-Nov-13 12:52:37

saggy what a total Nobhead, defo a good idea to just do one if he starts trying to ruin Xmas angry Sorry you are having a wobbly day, just gotta ride with it, tomorrow will be better smile

kat I swear by my doppler in early pregnancy, it has got me thru each time...that heart rate is completely normal and if you believe in old wives tales means it's a boy smile

kjh my first feelings with DS were like someone running their finger tips up and down the inside of my tummy?

So had sweep, no change in cervix from last week hmm Induction booked for a week tomorrow, gutted hmm

cosmickitten Mon 18-Nov-13 12:52:42

Bump congratulations on you little girl, Matilda is such a pretty name too!

trumski and nerdy I'm so glad CBD results were reassuring for you.

emki and penguin thinking of you both not long till the horrid pre scan stress is over.

saggy your brother in law sounds awful a proper alpha-idiot!

Huffpot Mon 18-Nov-13 12:55:08

kjh5 That sounds about right - I used to describe the feeling as bubbles popping in my tummy too - wait till you get a somersault - that made me squeal out loud through training at work! grin

shellsocks Mon 18-Nov-13 12:56:31

Stats 18 November : Today we are pregnant

Shellshock7: 2MC 1DS EDD 12 Nov
GardenWorm: 1DC, 2MC, EDD 19th November,
Janielovesluckysocks: 1MC, 0DC, EDD 23rd Nov
Lucky13: 1DS, 1 chemical, 2MC, EDD 23rd Nov
Vixjane: 2 MC, EDD 24 Nov
Vocalista86: 1 MMC, EDD 30 November
Jmf294: 1 DS, 1DD, 1 MC, EDD 10th Dec
ChocolateCremeEggbag: 1DS, 1MC, EDD 16 Dec
DIYandEatCake: 1dd, 1mc, EDD ?16 dec
Booty: 1chemical EDD 19 Dec
Blackholes: 2 MC, 2 DC, EDD 25 December
WillSantaComeAgain: 1DC, 2MMC, EDD 29Dec
pumpkinsweetie mc1, EDD 03 Jan
Christinedaae - 1DD, 1MC, EDD 25th Jan
Lieslvontrapp: 1MMC, 0DC, EDD 10 Feb
TotalShock 0DC, 1MMC, EDD 1 March
Pixielady83 1DD, 1MMC, EDD 3 March
GuffSmuggler: 1DS, 1MCC, EDD 4 March
Rock: 1DS, 1MMC, EDD 4 March
Swangirl:1DD,2DS,1MC EDD 8 March 2014
Motorcyclemama: 1MMC, EDD 17 March
SaggyOldClothPussCat: 1MC, 1DD, 1DS, EDD 13 March
Omri: 1DS, 1MMS, EDD 24 March
Fod27: 1DD 1DS 1MMC EDD 26th March 2014
RainbowConnections: 1DS, 2MC, EDD 1 April
Birdsdoit: 1MMC, 0DC, EDD 6 April
Blackberryand Nettle: 1MMC, EDD 10th April
TeaAndANatter: DS, DD, 1MMC, 20th April (ish)
Kjh5: 0DC, 1MC, EDD 21 April 2014
PoppySeedBun: 0DC, 1 MMC, EDD 22 April 2014
ImpatientlyWaiting: 0DC, 1MC, EDD 1 May 2014
MarthasHarbour: 1DS, 2MCs, EDD 7 May 2014
Tomkat: EDD 9 May 2014
Polka: 0DC 1mmc 2mc EDD 9th May
CbeebiesIsMyLife: 2DD's 6MC EDD 15th May
MissMedusa: 0DC, 2MC, EDD 20th May 2014
Emki; 1 DD, 2MC, EDD 30th May2014
Penguinita: 0 DC, 1 MMC, EDD 31st May 2014
MeDoingMyThing: 2 DS, 1MC, EDD 14th June 2014

New arrivals:

Jessw25 Baby Oliver born 9 July 2013 5lb 11oz
GaryBuseysTeeth Baby Alexander born 30 July 2013 7lb 4oz
Andadietcoke twin girls born 29 August Charlotte 5lb 5oz & Sophie 7lb 13oz
Pentagon baby Elsie born 23 October 7lb 5oz
Bodicea baby James born 3 November 8lb
Ibelieveinpink baby Imogen born 14 November 7lb 4oz
BumpKitty baby Matilda born 18 Nov 8lb 2oz

Bakingtins Mon 18-Nov-13 13:10:52

Congratulations Bump and another lovely name choice. Ladies on this thread have excellent taste having had much longer than average to think about names

Bakingtins Mon 18-Nov-13 13:13:17

Good luck saggy emki and penguin for scans today.

Pixielady83 Mon 18-Nov-13 13:59:17

shell sorry to hear cervix still the same sad did mw have any tips? Did you go into labour naturally first time? hope you can at least book yourself some nice treats this week so that if labour does start its terribly inconvenient and if not then at least you have nice things to do. plenty of cake too and I don't think a wine a night can possibly hurt at this stage xx

BlackholesAndRevelations Mon 18-Nov-13 14:12:37

Aw bump, many many congratulations! Hope you heal quickly, and enjoy every second of newborn snuggles xxx

Tomkat79 Mon 18-Nov-13 14:33:59

Aw bump, lovely news. Congratulations. What a quick labour! Love the name.

Hoping for good scan news later from emki and penguin

saggy your BIL sounds like a total cock. Think you should make full use of the c word at the Xmas table. can't help but smile just imagining his stupid face if you did! Ukg families. MIL just popped over...her 'I thinks it's twins from size of you' comment is wearing a little thin now.

Pentagon Mon 18-Nov-13 14:50:34

bump huge congratulations!!! I'm glad you had a quick labour (you'll have to tell us all about it when you get the chance) - great weight and lovely name too (I agree with baking, we have good taste on this thread!!) Enjoy your gorgeous little girl!

Good luck today with the scans Penguin & Emki!

kjh yay for movement! It sounds like it is the baby smile

kat is your 20-week scan on Wednesday? I was a nervous wreck before mine so I know how you feel....I'm sure it'll be fine!

jmf you MIL sounds like a pain! And saggy so sorry you have to put up with your BIL - he sounds like a total dick