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I'm torn what to do about the flu jab..are any of you going to refuse?

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blondebaby111 Thu 26-Sep-13 10:43:40

I have my 25 week check nxt week with a doctor and I know they will mention the flu jab. I'm really torn what to do, I've never needed it before and I'm very lucky I have a high immune system and this pregnancy I've been so lucky health-wise.

Most winters I never get a cold and I work in the beauty industry so I'm around it a lot but I've also had clients that have the jab yyear after year and end up with the most horrendous cold afterwards..what to do!!?? I just don't know.

Hubby isn't really too keen on me having it either..this baby is very precious to us as we never thought it would happen but I also know that if u have flu while pregnant its pretty damn awful too..are any of u abit cautious like me??

PrincessKitKat Thu 26-Sep-13 10:51:21

Marking my place as I'd be really interested to hear people's views too.

I've booked in for mine as I heard from a colleague (so nobody well connected) that swine flu is doing the rounds again - as I'm out & about in contact with lots of people day to day in my work, I'd rather be protected. But yes, I also heard the jab can be pretty unpleasant.

comfyonesie2 Thu 26-Sep-13 10:53:06

Hi, yes, I'm a bit cautious too, but after much deliberation and weighing up the pros and cons, I booked in for it next Tuesday. I work in healthcare and normally choose not to have it, but I have 2 other children at school, and the thought of potentially having a newborn plus two others to look after whilst having full blown flu is too much to contemplate. Also, high temp, flu etc whilst pregnant is going to be bad for the baby too. Having done the research, I think benefits outweigh risks, but I understand why you are cautious!

K8eee Thu 26-Sep-13 10:53:16

I know what you mean blondebaby. I too was very cautious but my immune system isn't that great when it comes to colds, and when I get one I suffer horrendously with it hmm currently I'm going through having a streaming nose, sneezing fits and not feeling 100%. I'm not sure if it's hay fever or the weather playing about with me, but the way I look at it is, if I'm suffering now and I haven't got a full on cold, what could happen if I did get the flu? It scares me that it could develop into pneumonia and I could be hospitalized. It's definitely personal choice, and everyone I have known to have it does get pretty crappy afterwards, but now I'm carrying my first child I want to protect both them and myself as much as I can.

Congrats too by the way! smilethanks

DaleyBump Thu 26-Sep-13 10:54:16

I wasn't going to get it but I've changed my mind. The flu can kill young babies and if I can protect him against even one strain of the virus it'll be worth it. I say this as someone who has refused various vaccinations previously. I'm not anti-vac, I just think you should research the vaccines first and decide for yourself.

ovenbun Thu 26-Sep-13 11:05:07

I will be having the jab, a week of possible cold symptoms traded for keeping myself and baby safer is no contest for me. Unfortunately within my professional capacity I come across women and babies who have been affected by flu. Pregnancy massively relaxes the immune system, however good it may be and puts us at much higher risk of contracting flu. The truth is that every year in the UK previously healthy pregnant women die if complications relating to flu, which include pneumonia, septicaemia, and neurological infections. if you are concerned about the jab please speak to your go or midwife who can reassure you. There seems to be a massive anti immunisation culture since the bogus mmr research, but the reason we have free jabs is because of the risks of not having them.

thecakeisalie Thu 26-Sep-13 11:18:10

I will be having the flu jab with this pregnancy but my decision is based on the fact that last year I had pneumonia and ever since colds always hit my chest quite hard. The months it took to recover were horrendous and I can't imagine being pregnant at the same time. I've weighed up the risks and think it would be better to risk the vaccination than getting flu. As others have said doing a bit of research first helps and just being aware of any potential risks.

Cannotbelieveit Thu 26-Sep-13 11:21:42

I had the flu jab in my last pregnancy (only last year) and had no side effects from it. Booked in it have it again with this pregnancy.

I'm ill at the moment and it's torture only being able to have paracetamol

Boobybeau Thu 26-Sep-13 11:36:42

It's such a difficult one and I totally felt the same as you when I was pregnant. I was so very torn as I didn't want there to be any complications and then wonder if it was because I had the jab. Then I got flu while pregnant and was VERY poorly and it was made worse that I was totally worried about the baby. If I got pregnant again I think I would jab now as I think the risks of having the flu are greater then having the jab

Brodicea Thu 26-Sep-13 11:46:20

I have asthma so have a jab every year and have never had a bad cold afterwards. I hope that helps balance what you've heard a little...
Never had it pregnant, but I think I'll go ahead - will be much better than getting the chest infection that usually used to follow the flu!

I had it last time I was pregnant (2 years ago) and had no side effects at all, not even a sore arm.

Flu can be pretty nasty in pregnancy, not only because you're limited on the drugs you can take...

Supersesame Thu 26-Sep-13 11:53:38

I work from home so I don't think I'm that risky to get it (touch wood), so I'm not going to get it.
I've also never had a flu jab before so I don't think having one now for the first time, as I begin the third trimester is the best time to risk any side effects.
I think if I'd had the jab before and know what to expect, I probably would get it.

Sunnysummer Thu 26-Sep-13 12:25:10

It's a dead vaccine, so you cannot get a flu from it, and the flu is really nasty in pregnancy and for newborns - often people call bad colds 'flu', but it is much more severe and can end up with hospitalisation.
After my jab I had no side effects beyond the bump on my arm.

SuffolkNWhat Thu 26-Sep-13 12:47:26

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

rallytog1 Thu 26-Sep-13 13:02:28

I think it's a no brainer. You may have met people who had a cold after having the jab but that doesn't mean the two things are related - maybe they would have got a cold anyway?! Also, your immune system is generally a little suppressed in pregnancy, so you may not have the resistance you normally have. You really don't want full-blown flu while pregnant.

PhilMckrakin Thu 26-Sep-13 13:09:52

I totally agree with ovenbun. Please have the jab. Some strains of flu can be fatal or you can end up in intensive care on a ventilator, it's not just a bad cold. Pregnant women are especially at risk of complications which us why they encourage you to have it. Immunisations are extensively tested before they use them on the general public.

mymagaret Thu 26-Sep-13 13:10:23

The Flu jab is not a live vaccine. meaning your not going to get the flu from the vaccine, or a cold for that matter. Its purely coincidence that the people you say had bad colds after having the vaccine had them, people offered the vaccine are usely people with a lower immune system so they are likely to be getting coughs and cold during the flu season anyway. The vaccination is not going to stop you getting a cold but it might very well stop you getting the flu that leaves you bed ridden and very poorly. You might get an achy arm and a bit of a temperature like any vaccination but surely you can put up with that for the sake of protecting your baby?

CrispyFB Thu 26-Sep-13 13:39:39

I've never had any side effects from it, pregnant or not.

I'm always a little cautious but then I remember a few years back a lady on here losing her baby at full term after coming down with the flu (does anyone else remember her?) and that convinces me.

Children get a flu mist up their noses, that IS a live vaccine and pregnant women are not advised to have it for that reason.

wispaxmas Thu 26-Sep-13 13:43:49

What others have said- it's impossible to get the flu from the flu jab anyone who says otherwise is ill educated about it.

I have it every year because of my asthma and being pregnant only makes it that much more important to get it IMHO.

Madratlady Thu 26-Sep-13 13:45:17

I know I should, I'm a nurse. It's more that I'm unlikely to get round to it.

I also felt dreadful for 2 days after taking up the offer of one at work last year and I hate feeling rough at work.

EmB1715 Thu 26-Sep-13 13:48:06

I had it yesterday along with the whooping cough one. I feel fine today, just a sore arm from the WC one.

enormouse Thu 26-Sep-13 13:53:45

I've booked in for mine too. I've had to get a special egg free vaccine ordered as I'm allergic. Has anyone had that particular brand of vaccine?

KikiShack Thu 26-Sep-13 14:12:31

I'm about to pop any day so won't be getting it to protect my unborn baby, but what should I do to protect my newborn? Is there a jab they can have, and/or if I have one a few days after giving birth will I be able to transmit some antibodies in breast milk?

I noticed my immune system was worse in pregnancy (first real cold in about 10 years! Then second, and third, was ill for about 10 weeks solid) but is it still surpressed after birth when feeding etc?

I feel for you, tough decision to make. I had to make a similar one when the first swine flu vaccine was out and there was so much debate. I did end up having it, which is just as well as I caught several chest infections which turned in pneumonia and I can't imagine what it would have been like to catch swine flu.

My DS is now three, completely normal and full of beans. Hope this helps.

MinesAPintOfTea Thu 26-Sep-13 14:27:34

I had it when I was pregnant. DS is currently singing in his cot because he won't bloody nap

One woman that year was telling people about the baby she lost when she was hospitalised with flu. A few days of having a cold (which is probably coincidental) doesn't really compare.

wintersdawn Thu 26-Sep-13 14:37:01

refused on both pregnancies much to midwifes disgust. have only had it once in my life and possibly pure coincidence but never had a more cold filled winter. carried both children over winter and didn't catch a cold either time.
have to say wont be giving my daughter the new 2year old nasal flu vaccination docs just told me about either.

TinyCC Thu 26-Sep-13 14:40:27

I refused it, on the grounds that when I've had it before (not pregnant, through work due to regular contact with general public) I've been ill afterwards - lethargic, joint pain, headaches.

sunflowered Thu 26-Sep-13 15:29:43

At the hospital I worked in during the summer of swine flu a number of pregnant women were admitted to intensive care because they were so ill with flu. It's unlikely to happen to most people, but the consequences if it does are unimaginable and, for me, not a risk I'm prepared to run. There's so much medical advice not to use certain very common drugs, that I don't think trained professionals would contemplate giving something they didn't fully trust to such a large number of people.

Smitten1981 Thu 26-Sep-13 16:01:56

My midwife told me today that she had 2 ladies last year who ended up in intensive care from having the flu while being pregnant and that it is very dangerous for you and the baby if you get it.

I booked in for it straight away.

I had it last time and having it again this time. I did not have any side effects last time either (I didnt think it was a live vaccine? on my phone so dr Google is not handy!)

LimeLeaafLizard Thu 26-Sep-13 16:15:21

I had it last winter when I was pregnant. It caused the usual side effects - I felt a bit run down for a week or two afterwards (well, more run down than usual!), and caught a horrid cold which took ages to shake off.

Later in the pregnancy I then caught flu. Apparently there was a strain which developed last winter which had not been included in the jabs.

I was very ill - in bed unable to move for 3 days and sick for about 3 weeks in total. I then developed sinusitis caught another cold.

Despite all this I'd have the jab again if I were pregnant. Any chance of avoiding going through all that would be worth it.

MummyJetsetter Thu 26-Sep-13 16:26:25

I haven't had it, my 1st pregnancy the swine flu one was recommended, i refused this due to there not possibly being any testing done and this time I haven't had the flu jab because I've never had flu before so the chances of me catching it are so slim (touch wood!). I have had the whooping cough one though because it's been given to pregnant women in the US for a long time so I think we'd know by now if it was harmful. x

katebakes Thu 26-Sep-13 16:40:45

Definitely getting it. I'm not going to over think it, although I understand why people do. Pregnant women get very, very I'll when they have flu and I don't want to risk anything, plus my DH is so asthmatic that if he were to catch flu it would turn into pneumonia so I'd rather not take any risks.

tgamble13 Thu 26-Sep-13 16:44:39

thanks for putting up this thread just got my appt letter for flu vaccine today and have now made up my mind thanks ladies going to definately get it

Julietee Thu 26-Sep-13 17:14:27

I'm having it despite being needle phobic!
We're generally around hospitals/ surgeries more while pregnant, which may raise the risk of catching stuff like flu. I'd rather have it because I know how anxious I'd be if I got really ill, which I was last time I had flu.

enormouse Thu 26-Sep-13 17:16:24

Just got back from antenatal appointment after being offered the optaflu vaccine. It's an egg free vaccine, is anyone familiar with it?

mrsgboring Thu 26-Sep-13 17:30:38

I get flu jabs as an asthmatic. When I was first pregnant medical professionals were v cagey about giving the vaccine. I had to fight to get it Opinion has changed based on evidence.

I have had the flu twice in my life. Occasionally felt bad after a jab but flu is nowhere comparable. Never ever again. And that's without the added risks to an unborn baby.

jamwi Thu 26-Sep-13 17:45:00

My dad nearly died from swine flu 3 years ago. He ended up in intensive care for a couple of weeks. His immune system was compromised due to medical treatment as yours will be during pregnancy. It was horrific, please have this jab. I had it during my second pregnancy and will have again with this one. Even if you are normally v healthy your body can behave totally differently in pregnancy you are so much more vulnerable.

MissPlumBroughtALadder Thu 26-Sep-13 17:50:17

I refused. Didn't fancy injecting mercury I to myself whiled body was building someone else's neurological system. (Flu vaccination is one of the few in the UK which still contains mercury). Plus I'd already had swine flu so wasn't concerned about contracting it.

ringaringarosy Thu 26-Sep-13 18:05:07

yes ive refused but ive refused all vaccines and my kids arent vaccinated so its not really a suprise!even if they were though,i wouldnt have it,i dont feel its needed.

DaleyBump Thu 26-Sep-13 18:09:46

It's people like you who allow the spread of disease. You've just been lucky.

DaleyBump Thu 26-Sep-13 18:11:26

That was directed at ring

GreenGiant3 Thu 26-Sep-13 18:19:49

I had my 35 wk check at midwife today she asked why I haven't had my whooping cough jab yet, I had no other explanation other than "not having had time" she then went on to tell me I was "in luck" as the nurse had a free morning so just go straight through for it confusedhmm then nurse told me I had to get the flu jab too due to an increase in swine flu, so two jabs later and here I am in bed really not well, I know they're not live vaccinations but I have been fine ALL pregnancy until this today confused still I would recommend all women have these, a lot more pros than cons tbh x

ringaringarosy Thu 26-Sep-13 18:26:43

Daley you believe what you want,i prefer to do my own research into things instead of being a sheep and mindlessly following what the medical profession tells me to.If your happy injecting various chemicals and aborted foetel tissue into yourself and your kids then go ahead,i prefer not to.

moobaloo Thu 26-Sep-13 18:32:13

I will not be having it, as I don't generally believe in vaccination except in certain cases. I've never had real flu, despite being in contact with people for work all winter, and I think I have a pretty good immune system, so I shall be relying on that and my general good health to keep myself and baby safe from harm. It's harder when you have another person to think about, but my own research over the years has convinced me I'm making the right choices.

DaleyBump Thu 26-Sep-13 18:36:56

ring as do I. I have refused various vaccines but a blanket "no, not ever, vaccines are evil" is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard.

BeQuicksieorBeDead Thu 26-Sep-13 18:45:03

I am having it, flu is horrible. My dp had swine flu a few Christmases ago and he was so ill, it was awful.

KikiShack Thu 26-Sep-13 18:47:17

Hope people don't mind me reposting my earlier post, *I'd really appreciate some views on how to protect a newborn since I'm not going to be able to have the jab before giving birth*:

I'm about to pop any day so won't be getting it to protect my unborn baby, but what should I do to protect my newborn? Is there a jab they can have, and/or if I have one a few days after giving birth will I be able to transmit some antibodies in breast milk?

I noticed my immune system was worse in pregnancy (first real cold in about 10 years! Then second, and third, was ill for about 10 weeks solid) but is it still surpressed after birth when feeding etc?

handcream Thu 26-Sep-13 18:49:41

As a word of warning. I hate the flu jabs. Often get them when I am there for a say a control pill check and they see I am due one and ask me to roll my sleeve up!

However 2 yrs ago I caught pneumonia. In the Far East. It could have been a lot worse I was told.

Excited85 Thu 26-Sep-13 18:52:56

Ok you guys have scared me now. I'm 37 weeks and the flu jab has not been mentioned to me at all, in fact this is the first I've heard of it. As Kiki has asked if I had it after birth would baby get the benefit through milk?

2Labradors Thu 26-Sep-13 19:06:42

excited I work in a GP practice and we have only just started getting our stock of flu vaccs in, so this may be the case at your practice. Our first flu clinic is mid-oct.

I will be having the flu vacc.

I've only just had my letter, and mw says it's because the stocks have only just arrived in the area.

I will be declining. I'm only offered it because of pgy, and will no longer be pg during flu season.

IWantAnotherBaby Thu 26-Sep-13 19:32:16

I've had it; gave it to myself today grin ! Our stocks arrived earlier this week.

I'm a GP, and 13 weeks pregnant. There is absolutely no way I would run any risk of flu in pregnancy if I could do something this simple to prevent it - I have personally seen the consequences of severe cases of flu in otherwise apparently healthy pregnant women. And of course I am more at risk than many people because of my daily exposure to ill patients.

For me, a no-brainer. But everyone has to make up their own mind and I give my patients the current best medical advice. And when pregnant patients start asking me if I've had it (when they notice I'm pregnant), I will of course answer truthfully.

CrispyFB Thu 26-Sep-13 19:38:57

I only had my appointment letter last week, clinic is 5th October so next weekend.

The way I look at it is if I declined the jab and then if I did get the flu and lost my baby, I would blame myself forever. I can't live with that guilt.

Mumsnet interview last October on the subject: www.mumsnet.com/qanda/flu-jabs-during-pregnancy

I'll be asking about the mercury before I get it anyway.

Boobybeau Thu 26-Sep-13 21:03:10

A reply to some of the mummies about to pop who are worried about flu and newborns; obviously breastfeeding is going to help your babies immune system so that's a good way to protect them from everything. As for your immune system, I'm not sure how long after the birth it's still compromised but you will be very busy and sleep deprived so your immune system won't be at its strongest because of these factors. Maybe chat to your mw in the morning and tell them your concerns. Good luck with your babies x

colleysmill Thu 26-Sep-13 21:20:55

I will be having it.

I usually have a flu jab anyway - I take immunosuppresants so have it offered via GP and have a public facing job so would get it through work as well. And I'm 17 weeks pregnant.

On the rare occasion I do get ill it happens quickly and I tend to get very ill so its a relatively straightforward decision for me tbh

MrsDibble Thu 26-Sep-13 21:28:08

Just out of interest - I am clear on the reasons to have it, but why are people saying it is a tough one? What are the reasons why you might not have it?

I've booked a flu jab for a couple of weeks time.

Also, what is the normal time to have a WC jab?

I'm 18 weeks and haven't been offered this yet.

Rowboat Thu 26-Sep-13 21:41:20

i have to get it anyway for underlying immunity disorders. I've never had a reaction. And the thought of getting flu (which i almost certainly would) and putting baby at risk is not worth it. My. SIL went into early labour because she had flu. It's perfectly safe. its a no brainer for me too.
Do those people who you know who have it, need it because they're prone to infections? If so that's a much more likely reason for the bad cold, ime.

Rowboat Thu 26-Sep-13 21:45:54

Whooping cough ideally between 28 and 32 weeks. just book it in in 10 weeks with nurse. Ours not done through midwives

blondebaby111 Thu 26-Sep-13 21:51:15

Thanx everyone to replying to my thread. Still pretty torn what to do but no way do I want to put the health of my baby or myself by at risk by not having it..swine flu scares the hell out of me, didn't realise it was making a comeback..I guess I'm more swayed to having it done than not now but its still a bit of a dilemma sad

SuperStrength Thu 26-Sep-13 21:51:48

Is the flu jab the same as the swine flu jab?

I've been reading up on this www.telegraph.co.uk/health/swine-flu/10322392/Government-set-to-u-turn-over-narcolepsy-link-to-swine-flu-jab.html

What I can't find out is which vaccine is being offered to me, is it Pandemrix vaccine by Glaxo?

No compensation has yet been paid to the families affected in this article.

I'm very pro vaccine, but I'm worried about the way on which this vaccine was granted it's licence

PrincessKitKat Thu 26-Sep-13 21:53:03

Thanks to OP for posting this topic and everyone for your replies.

I will be getting my 'flu jab - you're absolutely right, why risk the serious consequences of full blown flu just because I might feel a bit rundown after the jab? Plus my LO will be vaccinated with everything coming his/her way (herd immunity etc), so id be a bit of a hypocrite not to have it myself.

Misty9 Thu 26-Sep-13 22:31:29

I'll be getting the jab - had it with ds a couple of years ago and don't remember any side effects. I'm nearly 12 wks but booked to have it through work in October anyway, due to nature of role.

As for the narcolepsy link - I've already got that, so not too worried grin

I'm more worried about the mega painful arm from the WC vaccine that I've been reading about...

SeriousStuff Fri 27-Sep-13 01:55:41

I had it as soon a I found out I was pg. I'm now 38 weeks and haven't been ill once during my pg. Not saying it's down to the jab but, I'm really glad I had it done.

katebakes Fri 27-Sep-13 02:37:26

misty9 I'm terrible with anything needle related so blood tests, vaccinations etc...the WC jab didn't hurt at all. Ok I did then nearly faint in my GP's surgery but I think that's because I had worked myself up so much! I then felt horrible for the afternoon and vomited a few times. Had a nap and was better.

The arm wasnt that bad at all either. It was a bit sore and took a week to get back to normal completely but nothing awful. I'm so glad I've had it smile

MinesAPintOfTea Fri 27-Sep-13 06:36:39

SS there is a new flu jab every year, so no it won't be the same one.

I got a mega sore arm from the WC jab - for about three days I couldn't sleep on that side - but having a friend whose newborn was admitted to hospital with WC (now fine, thank God) there was no doubt in my mind.

quackojuliet Fri 27-Sep-13 10:13:08

I'm getting the flu jab - had swine flu four years ago and it was dreadful. Not pg at the time and in good health but I was wiped for a month and had to stay in bed unable to do anything.
I'm a little concerned about side eFfects of flu jab as going away for this weekend after getting jab today - will report back my findings!

froubylou Fri 27-Sep-13 12:00:20

I have thought long and hard about both the flu and Wc vacine and have booked in to have both on Monday.

For me the risks to my health of having flu whilst pregnant are too great to ignore. I can still remember seeing a heavily pregnant woman wired up to life support after contracting swine flu. I've also had 'proper' flu. Not the head cold or virus we all call flu, but real flu. It was horrendous and I was a fit and well 20 something year old then, not a 30 something year old who is pg.

The flu jab was quite easy for me to make my mind up on. If I were to die because of the flu, not only would my unborn baby be at great risk and at best be born motherless, I also have a 9 yo DD too.

The WC vacine was a little more difficult to decide on. Partly because it is so new. BUT apparantly it has been used in the USA for many years on PG women, it is given to 8 week old babies and the benefit is not for me, its for the baby.

When you bear in mind how difficult it can be to get the medical profession to let us have even cold remedies or hayfaver remedies whilst PG I think it is is a fair assumption that the risk of baby getting WC is far more serious than the risk of baby suffering because of the WC vacine as they are so adamant that we should have it.

And FWIW the reason we are having to make this decision in PGy now about having the WC vacine is because of the number of people who didn't vacinate their DC. Same with the measels epidemic. We live in a first world developed country where we are fortunate enough to have access to a range of immunisations to protect not only the health of our families but also the health of others. Without mass take up of vacinations then the most vulnerable in our society will be at risk of outbreaks. In this case it seems new born babies are the one who would be at risk.

I think it is fine to refuse any medical treatment for yourself or your DC. But the consequences are more far reaching than what you think so decisions shouldn't be taken lightly. It's not about being a sheep. Its about making informed choices based on sound medical advice.

ScottishDiblet Fri 27-Sep-13 12:14:32

I was pregnant last year and was told to have the flu jab. I needed the special egg free one as I'm allergic to eggs but there was a supply problem with the vaccine and they couldn't get hold of one (my friend who works in public health said there was a nationwide shortage). Anyway I couldn't have it but did want to if I could. I did get very ill last winter with a heavy cold and that was bad enough so would definitely have the flu jab if it came up again. Good luck with your pregnancies ladies.

GeppaGip Fri 27-Sep-13 13:40:00

"And FWIW the reason we are having to make this decision in PGy now about having the WC vacine is because of the number of people who didn't vacinate their DC. Same with the measels epidemic. " froubylou Fri 27-Sep-13 12:00:20

That's not true. The reason, in particular for Whooping cough, is that the vaccine we had as kids has long worn off so it is adults getting whooping cough, not necessarily children. End 2010/ beginning of 2011 whooping cough went rampant round the adults in my workplace. I was pregnant at the time and got it, so I won't be vaccinating during this pregnancy. I probably wouldn't anyway though.

GeppaGip Fri 27-Sep-13 13:43:52

"The WC vacine was a little more difficult to decide on. Partly because it is so new. BUT apparantly it has been used in the USA for many years on PG women, it is given to 8 week old babies and the benefit is not for me, its for the baby. " froubylou Fri 27-Sep-13 12:00:20

Sorry frouby. Another falsehood. It's not the same vaccine as the US. It also isn't the same vaccine that is given to infants at 8 weeks. It is th eone given to three year olds as a pre-school booster.

ringaringarosy Fri 27-Sep-13 14:39:31

geppagrip-finally someone talking some sense!

Stom91 Fri 27-Sep-13 14:56:36

ive had the flu jab in previous years due to asthma and never had any problems...
ill be having it next week along with the whooping cough.
my immune system is awful since i got glandular fever a few years ago...

so if i can protect myself and my baby from a harmless jab i will.
if i didnt get it then got the flu and lost the baby due to the flu i dont think id ever forgive myself. x

qumquat Fri 27-Sep-13 18:45:11

I can't imagine any reason not to have it. Real flu feels nothing like a cold so cold symptoms after the jab are completely coincidental (and as others have said the vaccine is dead). I had flu as a teenager and was in bed for nearly three weeks; no way I'd risk being that ill while pregnant.

Jorior Fri 27-Sep-13 19:55:51

I've been told it won't be available until late October. I'm due on 2nd November. Does anyone know how close to delivery I can have it and still provide protection to my baby once born? Thanks...

RobotHamster Fri 27-Sep-13 20:04:07

Jorior - if you want to have it now you might be able to get it from Boots or another pharmacy.

I'm definitely getting it. Swine flu 3 years ago was terrible, but had flu with this pregnancy already and was almost hospitalised I was so ill.

Norfolknway Fri 27-Sep-13 20:37:04

I'm going to get it. I've had it before while pregnant and each year since (was terrified of catching flu while having newborn or 1 year old)

Not had a problem or the flu grin bonusgrin

tackytiger Fri 27-Sep-13 20:39:41

Kiki I'm due tomorrow and got my jab today. Not sure about immunity for the baby but I was thinking more of myself anyway! I'm also going b to have my three-year-old vaccinated next week.

fancydressdiva Fri 27-Sep-13 20:46:26

I am really unsure.

I had never had flu before but had a jab in 2009 when preg with dc4. Then in 2010 I caught it really bad. Ended up in hospital as it had gone to my heart lining and ended up on beta blockers. It took ages to get my health back.

I wonder if having the jab blocked my immune system so that when it wore off and I did catch it, I got it twice as bad. The rest of my family got it too but didn't suffer as much.

You can buy a protection thing from boots thy you rub on your nose to help protect against germs.i might go for that.

So confusing!

wispaxmas Sun 29-Sep-13 08:46:04

I'm confused about the reasons for people not getting the flu jab.. If there is copious amounts of evidence to show that you have a compromised immune system during pregnancy and that the flu can pose a real and measured threat to both you and your unborn baby, what are the risks on the other side that outweigh that? Millions of people have the flu jab every year. Any cold-like symptoms are coincidental, I've personally never experienced them and I've had the jab nearly every year of my life. Please provide me with evidence that a flu jab is more dangerous than contracting the flu during pregnancy, or depleting the herd immunity for others who are unable to vaccinate for medical reasons.

midnight1983 Sun 29-Sep-13 09:59:04

I'm 18 weeks pregnant and I got the flu jab yesterday. I do feel a bit under the weather (aching muscles, mostly) but I think a few days of discomfort is worth it when you consider how harmful flu can be. I have also felt like I've had a constant cold/sinus headache all through my pregnancy so far, so I seem to have a compromised immune system at the moment. For me, the risk of getting the flu was not something I was willing to gamble with - I work in retail and get bad colds every winter through contact with the public, and have a tendency towards chest infections so I'm not willing to risk complications such as pneumonia.I remember having real flu as a child and it is horrendously debilitating. I agree that its best to make these decisions for yourself, but I highly doubt medical professionals would advise us to do something that has a high risk of harm to us or our babies. Whilst you may think there's a chance of a jab being harmful, there's a very high probability that flu would be very harmful - so that was my reasoning. Good luck with all your decisions and pregnancies.

2blessed Sun 29-Sep-13 10:07:24

This time last year I was thinking exactly the same as you OP pregnant at 27 weeks. In the end it was an easy decision and had both the flu jab and whooping cough vaccine.

Panzee Sun 29-Sep-13 10:11:55

I had my flu and whooping cough jabs during my last pregnancy. My absolutely perfect 7 month old is currently asleep on my knee. smile

Xenadog Sun 29-Sep-13 10:37:22

I had the flu last Christmas and I have never felt so ill in all my life. DP came down with it the day after so we were basically quarantined and had to look after ourselves. It was awful. The thought of going through anything like this this Christmas when LO is due is utterly impossible. I'm not sure why people are anti the vaccine though (admittedly haven't read the thread closely) I'm guessing there are potential dangers but there are risks with not having it as well.

I will be having the flu vaccine and the WC one and DP is going to pay to have the flu vaccine (he is not considered high risk) but after last year he wants to avoid feeling so ill again.

quackojuliet Sun 29-Sep-13 14:32:38

I had the jab on friday and haven't felt ill since, maybe a little more tired and slightly achey muscles but that's it. I'm glad I did.

Mondayschild78 Sun 29-Sep-13 14:59:58

I've had it for the past few years due to asthma and two years ago had it in pregnancy. I've also had it with this pregnancy last Thursday. Never had any effects from it. My arm is a little sore from the whooping cough injection though which I had the same day.

I don't understand why you wouldn't have it to be honest.

I will be having it, I normally pay to have one as I'm not normally eligible for a free jab. I've just had the 4 in 1 jab to cover Whooping Cough and that has made me feel rather crap, but better than the alternative of dc3 getting whooping cough before they are eligible for the jab.

bludgerwitch Mon 30-Sep-13 13:08:28

I have to admit that I've been with a GP for over 25 years who advised against the Flu Jab and with cases in my family I've seen several of them get less bugs since they stopped getting the jab.

My DH is healthy as they come, the year he decided to get the jab he was first in bed for 10 days straight after the jab from side effects and caught every bug going that winter. I'd never seen him that bad.

So my personal experience makes me not want to get it, but it's a really personal decision.

Just to add a new dimension, i have come down with a cold over the weekend. This is the same cold my dcs have had that they shrugged off (they are both asthmatic). It has floored me. I feel absolutely awful. You really don't appreciate your immune system until you are immuno-suppressed and if anything this has strengthened my resolve to have the flu jab.

MintyDiamonds Mon 30-Sep-13 17:55:29

I'm a biomedical scientist, specialising in immunology specifically vaccinations and there was one piece of advice I had to give, it'd be for pregnant women to have tr flu vaccine. I have had to go over so many tragic case studies of pregnant woman who didn't get the vaccine. The flu and the immuno compromised are a deadly mix.

Lostinspace1 Mon 30-Sep-13 18:04:56

Minty Diamonds - what is your opinion on having the tetanus/whooping cough combined vacination when you already had a tetanus jab at around 5 weeks pregnancy? I haven't yet got round to asking my midwife this question but I will do. Just curious to know if you have an opinion on this.

jerryanne Mon 30-Sep-13 18:12:51

I most certainly will be having the flu jab. Personally I always seem to get the worst illnesses at winter time and even the most simple cold turns into a full blown chest infection requiring antibiotics. I am currently only 6 weeks pregnant but by flu jab time I will be taking the precaution to protect myself and my baby. I would rather have the cold that sometimes comes after than have the flu desperatly needing antibiotics and feeling the worry and stress that decision would bring.

Just FYI, I had the flu jab last year in early November for protection before my wedding day and I didnt get any side effect or cold afterwards. It doesnt affect everyone the same way.

Jorior Mon 30-Sep-13 18:34:21

I'm 35 + 3 and I had the flu jab today. I figured it was a no-brainer because of the benefits but after a discussion with the nurse today, I'm wondering if it was worth my while. She said it takes a few weeks to become active in my system until which time I'm not protected. That means I'll only be covered for 2-3 weeks of my pregnancy. I asked if my baby would be protected once born and I was told it was possible she would have some protection against the flu. Does anyone have any information to reassure me that it was worthwhile?

blondebaby111 Mon 30-Sep-13 21:57:28

Well I've took the bull by the horns and booked my flu jab for saturday. I'd never forgive myself if something went wrong with this pregnancy just because I was too stubborn to have it. I'm still a bit wary as I'm never ill and if it makes me feel like crap I won't be happy but until I do it I will never know x

dizhin79 Thu 03-Oct-13 15:41:11

i ummed and aaaahhhed about but having spent the past week with a severe cold I have booked my flu jab for in a fortnight. I saw someone else on here post about the James Randi foundation, have a look on there for really interesting info about the flu vaccines

Having always been dead against over vaccination I actually think it's better for me to have them than the baby to suffer. Also this cold has really knocked me sideways and i wouldn't wish it on anyone! I never usually get colds, but obvs being prego my immune system is otherwise engaged!

MissHC Thu 03-Oct-13 16:21:24

I had my flue jab on Tuesday at the GP surgery. 34w pregnant.
No side effects, my arm's a bit sore but that's it.

Rhianna1980 Thu 03-Oct-13 17:57:30

Had the whopping cough and the flu vaccines yesterday. I have sore arms so far.

Not been offered whooping cough or flu jab. I don't tend to have vaccinations as am allergic to eggs though.

Are you supposed to be offered these vaccinations??

littlecloud Thu 03-Oct-13 18:19:36

I had WC and flu yesterday. WC is actually a combine vaccine with polio an something else which I can't remember. My arm is pretty sore to touch and a bit run own but to be fair had the start of the sniffles before the jab.

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