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PG after MC - Keeping the worries at bay with Posifrickingtivity!!

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Chocolateteabag Sat 20-Jul-13 23:30:57

New thread ladies!

Happy birthday for tomorrow Bod sounds like you have a lovely day lined up!
DH is looking after DS tomorrow so I can go for a trip into York and a mooch round the shops. First stop will be a child free latte in Betty's!

IBelieveInPink Sat 20-Jul-13 23:35:51

Thanks for the new thread choc!

Happy birthday bod!

Just been to see the ballet. Baby went nuts! She likes swan lake smile bless.

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Sat 20-Jul-13 23:45:19

<<wanders in, admires decor>>
Nice, I like it. Kind of large and empty, like a loft apartment...grin

williwonti Sun 21-Jul-13 07:19:28

Hi all, really struggling with the positiveness today, had bad dream that can't shake off.

GardenWorm Sun 21-Jul-13 08:06:28

Nice one Choc

Happy Birthday Bod!

Will the bloody dreams! They come and go but today you are pregnant and remember it was just a dream x

IBIP download Swan Lake for next time she goes quiet, much less stressful than a trip to hospital grin

Morning everyone,

Happy birthday bod!
smile at baby pink liking the ballet. Classy chick.

Hi willi, I don't think we've met but I'm sorry about the dream- they can be so haunting. Can you find something to immerse yourself in to shake it off.

Starting to believe that today I might really be pregnant helped along by peeing on a FRER and an opk this morning

Enjoy the wander choc. I'm sure they used to do delicious cinnamon toast in Betty's.... Or maybe I'm just thinking of Sally Lunns in Bath. Mmmmm melty buttery cinnamonny

LuckySocks13 Sun 21-Jul-13 08:23:44

Thanks for the new thread Choc. Sounds a lovely day smile
Willi remember it was just a dream. I've been having plenty of bad and also nice very weird ones. Big hug ((()))
IBIP - ballet how lovely. I'd love a night out smile
Hi saggy and everyone else and happy birthday Bod.

It's my lie in day but am wide awake! Grrr!

andadietcoke Sun 21-Jul-13 08:43:41

Happy birthday bod - have a lovely day grin

willi it was just a dream. Try and forget about it. It doesn't mean anything at all, it's just your subconscious playing tricks on you because you're so worried.

I have day two of my antenatal classes today. Yesterday was okay - not as preachy as I thought and one of the dads is an anaesthetist so there was minimal scope for scaremongering around the epidural chat! Today is post birth and tomorrow is breast feeding. They seem like a nice group though - hope we all stay in touch afterwards.

Rockchick1984 Sun 21-Jul-13 09:19:22

Place-marking!

Fluff I think how you're feeling about the 12 week scan is utterly normal, particularly if you've been through a loss in the past, but having seen the heartbeat at that stage there is only around 1% chance of anything going wrong by 12 weeks. You will be fine I'm sure thanks

jmf294 Sun 21-Jul-13 09:36:15

Thank you for the new thread Choc- as ever so grateful to still be here with you ladies and for your support!

Happy birthday Bod- hope you have a lovely day.
Choc- enjoy your time out- never been to York but I would love to visit as it looks lovely.
Willi- ignore the dreams, they mean nothing, just a way of processing what you are thinking about and your fears, I gave had some very odd and horrible dreams.
Andadietcoke - glad the classes are going well, are they NCT? We did NCT and it was great and I still keep in touch with the others from the class almost 3 1/2 years on, great way to have people to meet up with after your babies are born. I had an epidural both times and it was fine, the first time was absolute heaven after 2 days of contracting!!

Have a lovely Sunday everyone- I'm off to a play farm.
When is the Royal baby coming- poor old Kate, the whole world watching and waiting!!

jmf294 Sun 21-Jul-13 09:37:42

As for boys names- someone says they loved Benjamin- that's my sons name and James is our current favourite, but slightly tarnished by the fact I have a cousin called James that I don't much like!!

shellsocks Sun 21-Jul-13 09:53:12

Thanks for the thread choc smile

Happy birthday bod grin

Glad you're feeling more positive today thunder!

Me and DH hit upon Noah last night and we both like it so its a possibility....we don't agree really on names otherwise!

shellsocks Sun 21-Jul-13 09:55:00

Welcome fluff as well, hope your find your way here smile. good luck for the scan I know how terrifying it is, we can help you thru smile

ChristineDaae Sun 21-Jul-13 12:47:59

Happy birthday Bod!
Willi, I know what you mean about the dreams, I'm really badly affected if. Had a bad dream, went through a phase where I barely slept for a week as I kept having awful nightmares and was trying to avoid them! But we have to just keep thinking, it's just a dream!

JanieLovesLuckySocks Sun 21-Jul-13 12:54:32

hi girls! thanks for the new thread choc smile

just back from camping - was fab - and i did go swimming in the sea!! had some lovely long walks along isolated beaches and lots of lovely fresh air. sadly it didn't help my achey legs but hey ho.

hi to anyone i haven't met while away smile thunder, hope you're feeling more chipper today?

happy birthday bod! your day sounds lovely smile

Thanx for the new thread chocsmile

Happy Birthday bodthanks hope you are having a super day!

Pixielady83 Sun 21-Jul-13 13:39:33

Hi everyone! Marking my place smile

Happy birthday bod!

Hugs, Willi, the bad dreams are the worst sad Although my last scan dream was more ridiculous than bad, I dreamt there was a piece of ham on the scan pic instead of a baby?! Make of that as you will...

Yay for camping Janie so glad you got your dip in the sea smile we didn't get away camping but are headed to Northumberland for a last min caravan hol tomorrow to make the most of this fab weather. Hope it holds!

jessw25 Sun 21-Jul-13 15:47:15

Hi all and happy birthday Bod - hope you're having a fab day and being treated like a birthday queen :-)

A belated thanks to everyone for the well wishes and the tears. After the horribleness that was our drawn out mmc and surgery last year + the long stay in hospital with the high risk pregnancy, I can't believe we are out the other side of it now with DS Oliver, 12 days old. If I can do it, so can all of you!

I'm going to 'sign off' and say bye to you all I think cos it's just too tiring having Oliver (he's not taken well to breastfeeding so it's challenging at the moment...) and I never get to my phone/laptop anymore and then by the time I come on here, there are too many pages of news to catch up on and for me to do justice to.

Thank you SO much ladies for your support through the later stages of my PG. I wish I had discovered this thread much earlier on, esp for that first trimester because I wouldn't have felt so horribly alone in the anxiety. The support you offer each other on here is phenomenal. People say the internet has ruined communication - threads like this so strongly disprove that don't they.

Lots of love to you all and wishing you all happy pregnancies and then healthy bouncing babies xxx

GardenWorm Sun 21-Jul-13 16:12:36

Awe Jess, that's lovely! Here's to a very happy future for you and your family xxxx

Bootyluscious Sun 21-Jul-13 16:18:19

Marking my place too

No little butterfly flutters for me but full on jabs for first movement this week from baby grin very exciting

Hope all well x

GuffSmuggler Sun 21-Jul-13 17:32:54

Hi everyone,

Just trying to catch up, hope you're all well. We've had a lovely childfree weekend away, am soooo relaxed grin

shellsocks Sun 21-Jul-13 19:02:20

HELP!!! Superhero fancy dress when pregnant?!? Any ideas that don't involve me looking like jabba the hut (as suggested by a now ex friend wink)

Rockchick1984 Sun 21-Jul-13 19:19:43

How far along are you Shell? Personally I'd go for something like catwoman in black leggings, black long sleeved tshirt (show off the bump) and cat ears... Maybe a sticker on my bump saying "Batman's baby" or something along those lines!

JBrd Sun 21-Jul-13 19:23:14

Marking my place on the shiny new thread.

I'm shattered, slept for almost 10 hours last night, but still feeling bleurgh. But I'm not complaining - at this stage, I'll take any symptom that I can get grin
I'm also having disturbing dreams, one of the reasons that my long sleep wasn't as restful as it could have been.

But the midwife called yesterday, got my booking in appt on Aug 1, yay!

BlackholesAndRevelations Sun 21-Jul-13 19:24:38

Great idea rockchick!

Thanks for the new thread choc!

Happy birthday bod!

Welcome Willi- (unless you're a name changer?) bad dreams are awful but it's just a dream- reassure yourself x

williwonti Sun 21-Jul-13 19:27:21

It's not just me then??!! Thank god!!! It took me ages to snap out of it, really not like me but guess you are all right, it is my subconcious battling through. Waking up is really horrible as it reminds me of the MC and waiting up to "check". But like you say, I am pregnant today. I am actually coping a lot better than i thought. One of the odd things about this situation is you don't want the 12 wks scan quite so desperately as know are pregnant today. Don't think that makes sense but I know what I mean. Also helps that I will be having an early scan, either with NHS or private (posted separately about this).

Pentagon Sun 21-Jul-13 19:49:20

thanks for the new thread choc!

Happy Birthday "bod*! Hope you're having a lovely day!

ibip your little one has good taste wink

anda I hope you're enjoying the antenatal classes and you get to meet some nice people

welcome will, bad/weird dreams are a pregnancy symptom apparently! How far along are you?

Not much to report here...feeling OK but the heat makes me feel so tired...

shellsocks Sun 21-Jul-13 21:02:50

Thanks rockchick grin The couple who's party it is are going as batman and cat woman so we have been asked to not do that, but I can do something similar as a female counterpart to whoever DH goes as? Love this sticker idea smile

williwonti Sun 21-Jul-13 22:01:33

I'm not a namechanger and am 6+5 so early doors. Busy week in work and a 2 year old to keep me busy now. Will keep busy and positive now with all your help.

VenusInfers Sun 21-Jul-13 22:03:40

Hi Guys, also marking my place.

GaryBuseysTeeth Sun 21-Jul-13 22:14:03

Stats 21st July Today we are pregnant

GaryBuseysTeeth: 1DS, 1MC, EDD 10 Aug
Andadietcoke, 1MC, 0DC, EDD 10th September, next scan 13th August
Pentagon: 1 DD, 2MMCs, EDD 31 October
BumpKitty: 1MC, 1DD, EDD 9 Nov
Shellshock7: 2MC 1DS EDD 12 Nov 4D scan 17 August
Bodicea: 0DC, 2MC, EDD 16 Nov.
Ibelieveinpink: 2mc, EDD 16 Nov
GardenWorm: 1DC, 2MC, EDD 19th November,
Janielovesluckysocks: 1MC, 0DC, EDD 22 Nov,
Lucky13: 1DS, 1 chemical, 2MC, EDD 23rd Nov
Vixjane: 2 MC, EDD 24 Nov,
Vocalista86: 1 MMC, EDD 30 November.
Jmf294: 1 DS, 1DD, 1 MC, EDD 10th Dec
ChocolateCremeEggbag: 1DS, 1MC, EDD 16 Dec, Anomoly scan 26 July
DIYandEatCake: 1dd, 1mc, EDD ?16 dec
Booty: 1chemical EDD 19 Dec
WillSantaComeAgain: 1DC, 2MMC, EDD 29Dec Anomoly scan 16 Aug
pumpkinsweetie mc1, EDD 03 Jan
Christinedaae - 1DD, 1MC, EDD 25th Jan, anomaly scan 6th Sept
Pixielady83 1DD, 1MMC, EDD 3 March
GuffSmuggler: 1DS, 1MCC, EDD 4 March
Rock: 1DS, 1MMC, EDD 4 March
VenusInfers: 1DS, 1MC, EDD 4March
Postmanpatandhisblackandwhitecat:1DD,2DS,1MC EDD 7 March 2014
JBrd: 1DS, 2MC, EDD 16 March
SaggyOldClothPussCat: 1MC, 1DD, 1DS, EDD 18 March
Liesl:
Omri: 1DS, 1MMS, EDD 24 March

New arrivals

Jessw25 Baby Oliver born 9 July 2013 5lb 11oz

JanieLovesLuckySocks Sun 21-Jul-13 22:24:59

better change my edd so lucky and i are joint 9th in the top 10! smile

Stats 21st July Today we are pregnant

GaryBuseysTeeth: 1DS, 1MC, EDD 10 Aug
Andadietcoke, 1MC, 0DC, EDD 10th September, next scan 13th August
Pentagon: 1 DD, 2MMCs, EDD 31 October
BumpKitty: 1MC, 1DD, EDD 9 Nov
Shellshock7: 2MC 1DS EDD 12 Nov 4D scan 17 August
Bodicea: 0DC, 2MC, EDD 16 Nov.
Ibelieveinpink: 2mc, EDD 16 Nov
GardenWorm: 1DC, 2MC, EDD 19th November,
Janielovesluckysocks: 1MC, 0DC, EDD 23rd Nov,
Lucky13: 1DS, 1 chemical, 2MC, EDD 23rd Nov
Vixjane: 2 MC, EDD 24 Nov,
Vocalista86: 1 MMC, EDD 30 November.
Jmf294: 1 DS, 1DD, 1 MC, EDD 10th Dec
ChocolateCremeEggbag: 1DS, 1MC, EDD 16 Dec, Anomoly scan 26 July
DIYandEatCake: 1dd, 1mc, EDD ?16 dec
Booty: 1chemical EDD 19 Dec
WillSantaComeAgain: 1DC, 2MMC, EDD 29Dec Anomoly scan 16 Aug
pumpkinsweetie mc1, EDD 03 Jan
Christinedaae - 1DD, 1MC, EDD 25th Jan, anomaly scan 6th Sept
Pixielady83 1DD, 1MMC, EDD 3 March
GuffSmuggler: 1DS, 1MCC, EDD 4 March
Rock: 1DS, 1MMC, EDD 4 March
VenusInfers: 1DS, 1MC, EDD 4March
Postmanpatandhisblackandwhitecat:1DD,2DS,1MC EDD 7 March 2014
JBrd: 1DS, 2MC, EDD 16 March
SaggyOldClothPussCat: 1MC, 1DD, 1DS, EDD 18 March
Liesl:
Omri: 1DS, 1MMS, EDD 24 March

New arrivals

Jessw25 Baby Oliver born 9 July 2013 5lb 11oz

GaryBuseysTeeth Sun 21-Jul-13 22:27:10

Added you to stats Christine!

Happy birthday Bod flowers

shell, Penguin from Batman...hopefully you have the waddle to carry it off grin Loads of superheroes have children (at some point in their universes/alt-universes, yes I am a geek!) but I can't think of many properly famous ones. Love rock's idea!

Jess, good luck with the breastfeeding...hope you don't feel guilty if it doesn't pan out. brew for you, cannot believe he's 12days old already!

Hurrah for booking apt JMF!

Had another trip to Fetal Assesment Unit today, bloody baby is really trying to turn me grey early! Everything is fine..losing my mucus plug for the last 3 days so fingers crossed it turns into something (all the pain I mentioned last week has gone).

Hope everyone has a lovely week.

DIYandEatCake Sun 21-Jul-13 22:39:49

Hi everyone, still here!
jess you probably won't read this but all the best for the future, so pleased everything's worked out well for you. All the best with the breastfeeding, the early days can be hard. If you haven't already looked up la leche league near you I really recommend them, we're members and have had so much help and support there.
shell the party sounds fab!
bod happy birthday, and chocolate hope you enjoyed your child free trip to York.
pink can't go wrong with a bit of culture! I'm a musician and played in Beethoven's 5th symphony at about 7 months last time, and dd was going wild the whole way through. Mind you when I practise at home now she shouts 'mummy don't like it, put it away NOW!'
Still twiddling my thumbs waiting for Tuesday (20wk scan) to come...!

maybemyrtle Sun 21-Jul-13 22:47:08

Hi ladies, thanks so much for all the welcomes! smile This is a really lovely and kind thread flowers I'll add my stats to the list tomorrow (hopefully!!!)

Ok so here's my update: called EPU about the spotting and cramping as the pain had got a bit worse on Friday afternoon (it's been fine again since). They sent me back to my GP for referral. My GP was off so spoke to a locum who sent me on a wild goose chase to ante-natal assessment at a neighbouring hospital - they don't deal with anyone under 17 weeks so complete waste of time. Locum seemed to think it is ectopic, not sure why though as cramping is general lower ab and not specifically one side or the other.

So after the wrong referral, locum calls me back and tells me to go to EPU 9am Monday morning, nil by mouth for 6 hrs prior. He said they'd do a scan and take bloods, but nil by mouth means general anaesthetic I think? Wonder if they're planning to operate tomorrow morning because I'm not ready for that.... What do you guys think?

And spotting and cramping weeks 4-6 is normal, right...? Or is not? confused

I hope that everyone is well and healthy and had a lovely sunny weekend x

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Sun 21-Jul-13 23:03:05

Maybe brown and or red spotting can be a symptom of ectopic and ectopic pg can be extremely dangerous. If the pg is ectopic and it looks like there is a chance your tube might rupture at any minute, they need to act quickly. You are quite early on still so its unlikely I think, but better safe than sorry.
Of course, there is a good chance that it is totally nothing. Spotting can occur anytime and be completely pointless, and cramps are very common. Better to cover all of your bases and go to the scan prepared though. Think how wonderful I will be to sit down to a lovely breakfast afterwards, knowing everything is ok! smile
Willi pregnancy dreams are hormone related and very common! I gave birth to all my internal organs while asleep when pg with DD! confused and also ended up with a donut instead of a baby! grin which is ironic because I could murder a Krispy Kreme Donut right now! sad

IBelieveInPink Sun 21-Jul-13 23:29:50

Damnit saggy I could so go for a Krispy Kreme!

Maybe - good luck for scan tomorrow. Will be crossing fingers for you

JanieLovesLuckySocks Sun 21-Jul-13 23:32:21

Oh myrtle I hope all goes well in the morning, got everything crossed x

I've never had a crispy Kreme but I know I want one. My late night cornflakes didn't hit the spot dammit!

BlackholesAndRevelations Sun 21-Jul-13 23:38:35

What saggy said about the nil by mouth. I really, truly hope all is well for you myrtle. Will be thinking of you tomorrow morning xxx

jmf294 Mon 22-Jul-13 07:04:28

Thoughts with you today myrtle xx

ChristineDaae Mon 22-Jul-13 07:05:45

Good luck this morning myrtle. Will be thinking of you!

Morning all,

Good luck myrtle, fingers crossed all is well.

I want doughnuts!

Goodluck myrtle, hope all is well xxx

GardenWorm Mon 22-Jul-13 07:31:20

Good luck Myrtle, in my experience the GP's have been pretty unknowledgeable! Sounds like the locum didn't have a clue sending you to the wrong place then ramped it up afterwards to cover all the bases. As has been said spotting and cramping can be very normal (aargh!). I have everything crossed for you and at least you have the earliest appt so there is less of an agonising wait for you. Will be thinking of you x

andadietcoke Mon 22-Jul-13 07:43:15

jmf yep - NCT. I'm hoping we'll stay in touch. If I have a vaginal birth then I don't have a choice about an epidural, so the last thing I wanted was scare stories!

myrtle I had cramping and spotting - it can definitely be normal. Good luck and let us know how you get on.

Ooh ooh ooh, K-mid is in labour. I'm excited. Funny - I was dreading today in case it was anywhere near my mc EDD. And it's not grin

jmf294 Mon 22-Jul-13 07:46:31

Oh- just seen the sky news announcement - how exciting.
Apparently the Queen has to agree the name so there can be a delay in announcing the name. Go Kate!!

andadietcoke Mon 22-Jul-13 07:57:14

I feel so sorry for her in this heat and with being so completely under the microscope.

Also excited about names - mantra for today...Anything but Charlotte, anything but Charlotte, anything but Charlotte wink

maybemyrtle Mon 22-Jul-13 07:58:27

Thanks so much everyone - I'll report back later this morning. I really don't have much faith in the locum I spoke to so I'm not overly worried, EPU didn't mention ectopic as a possibility and they're the experts! Fingers crossed though of course. Posifrickingtivity, right? smile

I want doughnnuts too now!!

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Mon 22-Jul-13 08:00:55

Oh lord! Bad morning! Ive just woken up on the sofa where I have been since I sat down to watch The White Queen last night! I have a crick in places I didn't know you could get them! I had horrible MC dreams all night, and I've got the miseries this morning because DD was really upset last night because her best friend is moving far away tomorrow, and I've been blubbering since I got up because she is unhappy! sad

CamomileHoneyVanilla Mon 22-Jul-13 08:17:48

Bad morning here too. Woke up to bleeding (red, quite a bit) and cramps. Aware that this can end up being fine but what with them, no sickness and not yet getting a 3+ on clearblue (despite being nearly seven weeks) all positivity 'frickin' or otherwise has left the building.

Planning on just waiting for scan on Weds unless I get really bad pain - is that a reasonable plan?

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Mon 22-Jul-13 08:21:34

Oh No Cam! Id be pulling my hair out! You are perfctly entitled to call the GP and get a referral. EPAU will probably see you today and put your mind at rest! {{{hug}}} they are the loveliest bunch of people down there, they'll take good care of you. I'm crossing everything for you, my lovely Colchester buddy! X

Rockchick1984 Mon 22-Jul-13 08:38:41

Cam you will drive yourself insane if you wait til Wednesday!! Call your GP today, or even call the EPU direct and ask if you can move the appointment - explain why and chances are they will agree!!

Myrtle good luck for today, hoping everything goes well for you!

shellsocks Mon 22-Jul-13 08:43:31

No Charlotte, repeat No Charlotte grin

Good luck today myrtle smile

Oh cam I couldn't wait till Wed either, really hope it's nothing to worry abt xxx

shellsocks Mon 22-Jul-13 08:44:32

DH has just text me:

K-Mid In hosp in early stages labour. Bet they didn't try to send her home!��

JBrd Mon 22-Jul-13 08:49:19

Cam That's awful, fingers crossed for you.

Myrtle Good luck for you, too.

It is awful, this feeling that you're hanging in limbo and there is nothing that you can do but wait. Wishing you all lots of strength and patience.

I'm having a bit of a wobble at the moment, if I'm honest. Still no symptoms, apart from feeling very tired and a teeny-tiny bit queasy sometimes (for 5 minutes or so), and I can't help thinking that this lack of symptoms is exactly as it was with my two mcs... Plus, I keep having this dull backache, although I'm thinking that this could be due to overdoing it in the gym after we got back from holiday.
Still, I'm struggling to stay positive...
The news about Kate M going into hospital doesn't help. The EDD of my 1st mc is nearly here (end of July), and I'm getting reminders left right and centre wherever I look sad

BlackholesAndRevelations Mon 22-Jul-13 09:03:00

Aw cam you poor thing. Ring up today and get a referral for epu (not sure how it works where you are but we have to talk to GP first). I'm so sorry and hope you're ok xxx

Oh dear it's not such a great morning in here is it girls.

saggy, a <<hug>> for you, it's ok, duck have a good sob. But where was DP to remind you to go to bed?!

cam get yourself to epau this morning. You don't need this stress so go and find out what's going on. <<hug>> for you too.

Sod 'unmumsnetty', we can give out hugs here can't we? We bloody need them.

jbrd and breathe she says repeating the advice she has just been given what's your next milestone and what can you do today to distract yourself?

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Mon 22-Jul-13 09:11:22

JBrd me old bump buddy, where is your positivity? Tiredness and nausea are GOOD signs! Come on now, chin up!

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Mon 22-Jul-13 09:14:38

Thunder DP and everyone else was already in bed. They had all left me to it, because I came in from work grumpy and tired and shouted at DD14 for not checking the ponies, so I had to do it and the water trough was bone dry and its about a million degrees and the hose is shite and I didn't get in until gone nine! confused sad angry

fod27 Mon 22-Jul-13 09:24:39

Hi guys..... Thought I'd pop over and see how you were getting on, I'm so so sorry to hear your news cam stay strong and please listen to the other ladies and try to see your GP.

On another note I too now have a BFP!!! Trying to book in with the Dr today, but to be honest I'm terrified

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Mon 22-Jul-13 09:26:55

Join the club Fod! grin you're in good company!

Pixielady83 Mon 22-Jul-13 09:35:32

myrtle and cam hugs, thinking of you both and hoping for good outcomes for you, sorry you're going through this worry sad

off for a few days hol so may not be able to post depending on signal.

I wonder if Kate went in earlier than later so that there were no dodgy shots of her bent double and swearing at Wills! or if she is anything like me waddling with (full size bath!) towels between legs because my waters just didn't stop once they had gone, not a very dignified look! Apparently they were 'spotted' by some paps even though they went in the back of the hospital, what a shame. Hope she has plenty of fans on her, giving birth in 34 degrees is going to be awful.

BlackholesAndRevelations Mon 22-Jul-13 09:37:55

Woop woop fod! that's excellent news. Fingers crossed for you xxx

Pentagon Mon 22-Jul-13 09:49:07

congratulations fod and welcome!

myrtle good luck today, thinking of you!

oh cam that's so stressful, can you contact EPAU and see if you can get an appointment earlier than Wednesday? Fingers crossed all is well

jbrd I also had back pain (which I took as a bad sign but it didn't mean anything) and on and off queasiness so you can never tell...

Kate goes into labour at last! It's nice to have some excitement this morning (I'm at work and can't keep my eyes open...yawn)

WhatWillSantaBring Mon 22-Jul-13 10:07:23

Oh, what a mixed morning <<hands round Krispy Kremes>>.

Congrats to fod and to k-Mid . Ok, so I know she hasn't posted on here, but as we all now know how common it is, she may well have been part of our miserable little club, and if she isn't then I'm strangely pleased that she's been spared the pain. whereas with other people I get strangely jealous that they've had it so easy. Any woman giving birth to a healthy baby is a happy day, no matter who they are. And I'm sure they have the a/c on to a nice 18 degrees for her.

Sorry to hear about the stress for cam and myrtle. Fingers crossed for you both.

Still haven't felt any movement - 17 weeks now and I'm sure this was the week I felt it with DC1 AND I had an anterior placenta. Relying on statistics to keep me sane - I know things are fine. Healthy heartbeat heard at 15+5, so no reason to think its gone wrong.

Shattered today as well, not sleeping well even though our bedroom is at last a tiny bit cooler than the surface of the sun.

shellsocks Mon 22-Jul-13 10:41:12

Sorry you are feeling low saggy and jbrd you'll get thru today and feel the posifrickintivity tomorrow smile

Congrats fod good to see you here grin Hope you have an uneventful pregnancy smile

santa I felt this baby 2 weeks after I'd felt DS and I'm smaller too...everyone says that you feel
Second babies earlier and are bigger but it's obviously not always the case!

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Mon 22-Jul-13 10:49:44

I'm feeling happier now! I started reading this thread and I've been lying in bed chuckling! crying with laughter

CamomileHoneyVanilla Mon 22-Jul-13 11:12:34

Sadly the perfect EPU are now not answering their phone. I'm not really in any doubt about what's happening so not really stressed as such. There's clots and everything now. I'm at work so luckily have gone in to detached pragmatic mode (will deal with emotional fallout later). Going to cancel this afternoons clients and head home though I think. Not really up to this happening again. sad

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Mon 22-Jul-13 11:16:01

Oh Cam. I'm so so sorry. I just don't know what to say! {{{hugs}}}

WhatWillSantaBring Mon 22-Jul-13 11:19:59

Oh cam, I'm so sorry. Its shite in everyway, but remind yourself that you will get through it somehow. I felt much the sameway with my second - I just couldn't face having to deal with the emotional fallout again. However, an important tip I got from a friend was to make sure that you do let yourself grieve again - she didn't (thought "oh its fine, I've done this before and I'll be absolutely fine") and it was a good year later that she realised you can't cheat the grieving process. But you will come through it and survive, because you're made of strong stuff. {{{hugs}}}

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Mon 22-Jul-13 12:30:11

I wish there was something I could do to help Cam. sad
I've got bother milestone to add to my list. Got my dating scan date this morning. 9 September. It says one adult and my own well behaved children. Dcs are 17 and 14. I can sneak them in under those rules right? hmm grin

Pixielady83 Mon 22-Jul-13 12:33:15

so sorry cam xxx

Pentagon Mon 22-Jul-13 13:04:43

oh cam I'm so sorry sad both my miscarriages were missed ones (only discovered at my 12-week scan) so I have no experience of bleeding and clotting and can't offer much advice...are you 100% sure that it's happening? Will you be getting a scan? I know the emotional fallout is the worst part and takes a while to hit.... But as santa said, you should let yourself grieve as much as you need and when you feel ready, try again. I know it's easier said than done but we've all been through it and we just have to grit our teeth and hope for the best - the desire for a (or another) child is stronger than anything else, isn't it? Thinking of you flowers

GuffSmuggler Mon 22-Jul-13 13:36:07

So sorry cam it's so unfair sad Please look after yourself.

Great to see you here fod

JBrd Mon 22-Jul-13 13:37:25

Cam So sorry to hear what you're going through, nature is so cruel. And I agree with what the others have said - no matter how often you experience a mc, the emotional fallout might be different each time, but it's going to happen, one way or another. Be kind to yourself.

saggy envy of your scan date! I have to wait for the mw to arrange it, and I doubt that she will do that before I have my booking apt.

Welcome fod!

Looking at milestones that I could set myself - not many, really! Getting to the next week is usually the one that I'm working to, Wednesday is my 'changeover day', I will be 6 weeks this week. But it will only get worse, as both my mcs started around the 7-8 weeks point. Fortunately, I have a lot to do at work, so I have to stay focussed on that. Works most of the time...

Does any of you ladies discuss your fears with your DP/DH? I sometimes feel a bit alone in this all, but although on one hand I do want him to know how worried I am, I also don't want to constantly be harping on about it. However, he never asks how I feel... We're both very cautious about getting too excited just yet, but the mantra is 'Today I am pregnant' after all.

JanieLovesLuckySocks Mon 22-Jul-13 13:40:43

Cam I'm so sorry, life can be do cruel sad sending you my love xx

GardenWorm Mon 22-Jul-13 13:46:49

Big hug Cam, it's so very unfair. Take yourself home and look after yourself. Hope you have lots of RL support.

GardenWorm Mon 22-Jul-13 13:47:39

Hello Fod - congratulations!!!

GaryBuseysTeeth Mon 22-Jul-13 14:08:40

Cam, I'm so sorry. Hope you have a peaceful afternoon/evening & you're not in too much physical pain. xx

Welcome fod!

Jbrd, DH & I are both from the 'Not pregnant until we're holding a newborn' school of negativity so, thankfully, I don't have to mask not being excited about it!

Saggy, hurrah for scan date!

Pixie, I have visions of Kate swearing her head off like a trooper demanding an epidural grin I bet if she wanted one early, she'd get it!

CamomileHoneyVanilla Mon 22-Jul-13 14:44:16

Thanks for the best wishes folks. At home now with scan moved to tomorrow. I'm alright. DH back soon.

poopyisapig Mon 22-Jul-13 15:20:32

Hi, can I pop in?

I have just found out I am pregnant after having a horrendous MMC in May (found out at a 9 week scan the baby had died at 8 weeks, finally had a natural MC which almost killed me 4 weeks later).

I am not even due af until thursday, but got a BFP today.

Am now very frightened about a MC happening again, it really was (physically and mentally) the worst experience of my life (and that's saying something!). I am happy but terrified.

I have an 11 year old ds, so have had a successful pregnancy before in the dark ages

andadietcoke Mon 22-Jul-13 15:25:04

Oh Cam I'm so sorry that you're going through this.

JBrd I don't talk about it with him any more. He tells me I'm being stupid and I worry too much. Occasionally my sister asks if I'm excited yet, and can't understand when I tell her I'm not. I still don't believe that there will be a baby (let alone babies) at the end of this. I have bought stuff now, but all the tags are still on everything, nothing is unpacked, and I've tried to only buy things from places with good return policies. hmm

maybemyrtle Mon 22-Jul-13 15:46:12

Hi all, sorry for late posting - ended up in EPU for 3 hrs then had to race back for meetings I'd already rescheduled once.

Scan wasn't good news, I'm having bloods again on Weds to confirm not ectopic, but it looks like an early mc. Def helped that I'd not let myself invest in this one. Next time lucky.

Look forward to meeting you all again in a few months hopefully. Thanks so much again for your kindness and wishing you all happy and healthy pregnancies & beyond xx flowers

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Mon 22-Jul-13 15:49:11

JBrd, you aren't alone, you have all of us! grin and I'm sure you said we were bump buddies! grin
I'm rooting for Katherine, I hope she is getting the birth she wants.

GardenWorm Mon 22-Jul-13 16:02:06

Oh Myrtle I'm so sorry to hear such terrible news, i hope you have lots of support to get you through it and that when you are ready are back with us soon. Look after yourself xxx

Pentagon Mon 22-Jul-13 16:09:31

oh myrtle I'm so sorry sad not a good morning for this thread... I hope you're coping OK and have lots of support in RL... all the best, hope to see you here again soon!

jbrd DH and I refused to acknowledge the pregnancy before the 12-week scan and tentatively started discussing it before the 20-week scan. Since then, it's felt more real and we've both been a bit more positive. I'm even starting to get a little excited! I mean, I know things can go wrong at any time (rarely but it happens) but I don't want to spend my entire pregnancy in negativity.

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Mon 22-Jul-13 16:19:45

I'm so sorry Myrtle. I've been through it, it is incredibly shit! Take it easy. Rest and look after yourself. And if it helps, tell people. Don't suffer in silence. One thing I've learned is that far more people than you realise have been through this, and they know how you feel. I found all the people who knew were INCREDIBLY supportive. {{{hug}}}

ChristineDaae Mon 22-Jul-13 16:28:33

Welcome to poopy and fod. Poopy that sounds horrendous, it's no wonder you're scared! The ladies on here are amazing though, I wish I'd been brave enough to come here earlier as it would have really helped having all this support in the early weeks.

Cam and myrtle, I am so sorry you are both having to go through this again. I know nothing will help right now but I am thinking of you both and sending lots of virtual hugs! sad

GaryBuseysTeeth Mon 22-Jul-13 16:30:20

So sorry for your news Myrtle, fingers crossed that it's not an ectopic & we can welcome you back here asap. Wishing you a peaceful rest of the week flowers xx

Welcome poopy! So sorry to hear of your horrible experience, congrats for getting pg again so soon afterwards.

Glad they've moved your scan forward Cam x

sad So sorry cam & murtle what an awful day for you both, sorry this is happening again. Thinking of you both today xxx

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Mon 22-Jul-13 16:34:12

Sorry, I'm on 2 antenatal threads and I though I was on the other non MC one! blush obviously we are all familiar with this situation! It's still shit though, and still look after yourself! X

WhatWillSantaBring Mon 22-Jul-13 16:53:42

Oh, how sad for myrtle and cam. But good news for poopy and Fod so a very mixed day.

DH didnt' really get how I was feeling in the early days. He got over both mcs very quickly, and was just "well, it happened, it was shit. Move on". So no, I didn't really share with him that much worries its the sign of a doomed marriage so coming on here was my lifeline. I suppose for men its different. I know they're invested in the pregnancies, but I'm sure it doesn't consume their every waking thought in the way that it does for us. After all, we're the ones growing the humans and its our bodies that it (both the pg and the mc) happens to.

poopy - very scary for you. There is no reason to think that the same will happen again so try to stay positive, which we all know can be impossible some days!

VenusInfers Mon 22-Jul-13 17:04:33

Afraid that bad things come in threes, I'm losing my 8wk pregnancy. Cramps and bleeding etc.
We hadn't got our hopes up for this one, what with me being over 40 and the MC last autumn, but still rather sad.
Lucky that we have one DS, and he's very treasured, so am not going to moan about our bad luck or anything. And will pop a bottle of Sav Blanc in the fridge later to look forward to tomorrow.

Sending love & sympathy to Cam and Myrtle & best of luck to all you other lovely ladies.

Oh golly what a horrible day here. So sorry, cam, myrtle and Venus. It's just shit and I'm thinking of you all.

Welcome of course to fod <waves- hi fod!!> and poopy.

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Mon 22-Jul-13 17:25:27

Oh lord! I'm just so sorry! sad

GardenWorm Mon 22-Jul-13 17:51:46

Venus what awful news. Whether you had your hopes up or not it's heart breaking. Look after yourself and your family. Big hugs xxx

BumpKitty Mon 22-Jul-13 18:24:07

So sorry cam, myrtle and venus thinking of each of you. I hope you all have the support you need xxx

Welcome fod and poopy

I do talk to DH about how I feel but I'm not sure how much he understands it, he often asks me how the baby was and in the early days I'd get cross and say I really don't know! It's easier now as I can say how active she has been etc.
I just held my childminder's new baby boy! He is amazing and so tiny.

GuffSmuggler Mon 22-Jul-13 18:34:19

So sorry myrtle and venus it's so so shit angry Just be kind to yourselves and give yourselves time to grieve x

JanieLovesLuckySocks Mon 22-Jul-13 18:38:22

oh what a sad and unfair day. venus, myrtle and cam i am so so sorry flowers xx

Lieslvontrapp Mon 22-Jul-13 18:41:44

What a terrible day! So sorry for cam, myrtle and venus that you're having to go through this. Take care of yourselves.

Welcome and congrats on the bfps to fod and poopy!

Funny that k-mid has gone into labour today. It's the EDD of my MMC today. Don't feel too bad about it though. Just hoping that all will be fine with this one. Told my mum and dad yesterday and it was lovely to see them excited.

Chocolateteabag Mon 22-Jul-13 18:43:36

Oh lord, so so sorry for you all Myrtle, Cam and Venus - hope you all have lots of support in RL, wishing you a speedy recoveries (physical and mental) and that you do get your little ones soon! Thinking of you all, especially today all all days with K Mid all over the news, hope you can get away from it all. Enjoy a proper wine or 3 tonight - you deserve it.

Santa I can't remember when I started to feel DS but am 19 weeks now and still only had the odd prod/poke and only when i'm sitting still. I have regular Doppler sessions just to keep myself sane.

Gary losing plug sounds like it can't be too far away for you.

Hi to Fod and Poopy

IBelieveInPink Mon 22-Jul-13 18:44:12

Sorry to see all the sad news today. Gosh it sucks doesn't it. I know no one deserves it, but especially when it is not the first time, it's just not fair. sad thinking of you all.

IBelieveInPink Mon 22-Jul-13 18:46:12

Gary - losing plug! Ooh. That's exciting. Not long to go then!
You will be like k-middy with the fan base here watching and waiting for news. Okay not quite the same as the whole world, but we are just as eager!! smile

DIYandEatCake Mon 22-Jul-13 18:58:11

Oh no what sad news sad. So sorry for your bad luck cam, myrtle and venus, really hope you're back with us soon if you want to be.
Welcome back fod and welcome poopy - wishing you both lots of luck, we all deserve it.
20 week scan tomorrow, we're going to find out boy or girl if we can. Looking forward to seeing the baby again and just hoping that it's still happy and healthy in there.

GaryBuseysTeeth Mon 22-Jul-13 19:02:58

Venus, so sorry to hear your news. I hope it's all over quickly for you & if you do decide to ttc again, the best of luck. Enjoy your wine tomorrow. flowers xxx

IBIP, grin I'll be just like K-Middy & channel my inner graceful & eloquent self during labour too!
I feel like a bit of a tease, have had back pain all afternoon & mild (irritating not painful) contractions which didn't subside in the bath I've just had, no more mucus plug lost though. I feel I'm in for the long haul!
Although I have no childcare options today for the only time this week so that alone should be enough to send me into full blown labour!

Good luck for your scan tomorrow DIY!

JanieLovesLuckySocks Mon 22-Jul-13 19:36:29

diy best of luck for your scan tomorrow x

gary mucus plug AND contractions!! how are you so calm! eek this is exciting! dailymail showbiz will be all over it when your labour starts! (i just made the mistake of googling mucus plug)

hi fod and poopy! congrats on your bfps! fx for very unexciting pregnancies for you both xx

BumpKitty Mon 22-Jul-13 19:43:30

gary' I'm very excited for you, are you sure you aren't Kate?!

santa I read something that said you can be less sensitive to movements after already having a baby as everything is a bit stretched inside! Hope that isn't too offensive!

diy good luck for the scan smile

shellsocks Mon 22-Jul-13 19:51:52

So sorry cam, myrtle and venus I hope you are being looked after in RL and things go as smoothly as possible for you from now on x I agree with pink life sucks sometimes and it's just not fair hmm

jmf294 Mon 22-Jul-13 19:55:33

Thoughts with you Cam, Myrtle and Venus- such sad news and I'm sure the weather and the constant royal talk makes everything even worse if possible.

Good luck Gary- when is your due date? You may get a special coin.
Hope the scan goes well DIY- not many of us on team blue so far!!

Hope everyone is ok in the heat- it's a bit horrid!!

BlackholesAndRevelations Mon 22-Jul-13 19:59:12

Oh no oh no. So sorry for myrtle, cam, and Venus. truly shit to go through this more than once (once is more than enough obviously). You are all in my thoughts and I hope you are looking after yourselves. Give yourselves lots of time to grieve and heal. sad xxx

LuckySocks13 Mon 22-Jul-13 19:59:26

So so sorry to read such sad news Cam, Mytrle and Venus. Life is truely cruel sometimes. Sending you all love and strength at this sad time x

BlackholesAndRevelations Mon 22-Jul-13 20:00:23

Welcome poopy - I hope you have the most boring pregnancy ever (if you know what I mean!) congratulations xxx

shellsocks Mon 22-Jul-13 20:07:23

Jbrd meand DH are a good team as he just thinks everything will be fine so doesn't panic if I have a 'bad' symptom or don't feel the baby for a while...so I am going insane, mad tears etc. he is v calming and logical which does help me...sounds like your DH might be useful in that way too when you get passed the first 12w and accept you will be having a baby smile

Welcome poopy I had a horrendous MMC experience with my first PG, both physically and emotionally but now have a lovely DS...that PG was scary and mentally tough but we got thru it, you will too xxx

gary gringrin. I'm very excited for you! x

Good luck tomorrow diy smile hope you get to find out the sex x

So 24w tomorrow at last, feels like a real milestone...might buy something for the new baby as I'm going shopping with my friend smile

shellsocks Mon 22-Jul-13 20:08:53

And yes jmf the heat has finally got to me...swollen ankles, throbbing hot feet AND a summer cold hmm Still don't want the heat to end tho! wink

Pentagon Mon 22-Jul-13 20:21:46

bad things come in threes indeed...I'm so sorry venus, we've all been there and it's awful and so unfair...thinking of you and hope you have a BFP and uneventful pregnancy very soon

welcome poopy, it's scary being pregnant after a horrible MMC but fingers crossed everything goes well this time

gary wow, you may be very close! Did you have a similar experience with your first?

DIY good luck tomorrow, let us know how it goes!!x

GardenWorm Mon 22-Jul-13 20:26:31

Ooh Gary/KMid (your secrets safe with me Ma'am!) <curtsey> this sounds soooooo exciting, surely baby is on the move? Look forward to hearing what's next. Go team Gary! smile

What time's your scan DIY?

GardenWorm Mon 22-Jul-13 20:31:12

BOY! Boom!

JanieLovesLuckySocks Mon 22-Jul-13 20:34:34

oooh she's had him!!!! well done kmid!!! (i'm guessing it's not you gary?!)

jmf294 Mon 22-Jul-13 20:36:23

Ohh wonder what the name will be!!

GardenWorm Mon 22-Jul-13 20:42:17

Gary's gone quiet.....def K Mid (last post was clearly a red herring grin)

GaryBuseysTeeth Mon 22-Jul-13 20:54:35

envy Ooh how I wish it were me (although I would've married the other brother!)!
Pentagon, DS was induced so I have no idea what early labour feels like...still got the discomforts (don't want to call them pains) & I've lost more mucus plug (Janie, I think brain bleach is needed after goggling to compare colours).

Scared to go offline now incase you all think I'm popping!!

shell, summer cold?! Hope you feel better soon. Congrats on reaching 24wks. x

DIYandEatCake Mon 22-Jul-13 20:57:16

2.00. A boy - I expected it to be a girl for some reason! I'm so glad I wasn't the obstetrician or midwife looking after k mid, imagine the pressure... Wonder who he'll grow up looking like?

DIYandEatCake Mon 22-Jul-13 20:59:10

Oooh gary that's so exciting! Hope this is the start of things and it's all over quick so you're not too knackered.

LuckySocks13 Mon 22-Jul-13 21:01:21

Ahh a little boy smile (fingers crossed wont be named James! Don't want DS to be one of many!)

Bodicea Mon 22-Jul-13 21:13:29

I second that: please no James. Although will win £200 if it is as put £20.

Thanks for a your birthday messages. Had a fab day.

I am so sorry myrtle cam and venus. What a Terrible day of news and a crap day for it with all this baby fanfare.

I was due wih my second pg the same time as kate Middleton and found out about her pregnancy about the same time I was losing mine. Everything seemed to be about babies. Totally hated her guts especially when she got all this sympathy for hyperemasis. at least she was bloody pregnant. and still resent her for getting to hold a baby her arms before me. Totally stupid really but normal I think.

Bodicea Mon 22-Jul-13 21:16:05

Oh and welcome back fod.

Very excited for our second baby on thread Gary. I second that the brother is fitter. He still has his hair x

shellsocks Mon 22-Jul-13 21:16:30

Demanding DH go get me the new Spicy Nacho Burger meal from KFC immediately and bursting into tears at royal baby announcement....yes, think I'm defo pregnant grin

IBelieveInPink Mon 22-Jul-13 21:39:56

Ahh, my unborn daughters future husband has been born. Perfect timing. How lovely ;)

I do feel a bit bad for them in a way. Poor couple. It's bad enough worrying about fending off excited family, never mind the whole of the worlds press. Hopefully they will manage to get some peace and enjoy being a family.

jmf294 Mon 22-Jul-13 21:46:05

Watching footage of Diana with the young princes brought tears to my eyes. She would have been delighted.
I hope William, Kate and their young prince all have a much happier life together.

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Mon 22-Jul-13 22:06:31

Cam I'm having a scan tomorrow too. If you see a short speccy bird in a white and blue floaty top and black longs, that'll be me. Your more than welcome to have a RL {{{hug}}}. X

fod27 Mon 22-Jul-13 22:16:17

Ooooo Gary how fabulous!!!! To hear of someone going full term after a hellish time is absoloubtly liberating!! Also the ladies as far along as 19 and 20 weeks!!! Inspiring stuff! So glad I returned to see the positives but truly heartbroken for the others.... Life is sooo crap at times! My work mates and I attended a leaving meal for a colleague which turned into a wake after hearing that another colleague had committed suicide on sat evening (life is soooo crap) especially as we found out the same day as our BFP!)

On a lighter note my soon to be DH has insisted that I spend the next 8 weeks on my back and that I'm no longer allowed to punish the DC! Silver linings eh?

Chocolateteabag Mon 22-Jul-13 22:43:24

Ahh post birth meal of Pizza for KMid grin - will be the best Pizza she's had I'll bet!

GardenWorm Tue 23-Jul-13 07:32:26

Good Luck today DIY & Saggy

Will be thinking of you too Cam xxx

Garryyyyyyy??????! you still there? wink

GaryBuseysTeeth Tue 23-Jul-13 08:14:13

Good luck today DIY & Saggy!
Cam, holding on to posifrickingtivity for you, but hope if it is the end for this pg you're given the all clear & it's 'just' a straightforward mc. xx

Still here, 15mins apart but they seem to be getting less intense. hmm I have a feeling I'll still be pregnant next year week!

shell, how was your burger? I think I'll send DH out for McD's if this turns into him staying off work today!

((Bod)) I found out I was pg with this one a while before K-Mid was announced & my first thought was 'thank fudge I'm pg again already'.

Hope everyone else managed a decent night sleep! Bloody thunder was so loud.

Me? Sorry if I kept anyone awake, I was trying to be quiet.

Good luck saggy and DIY x

poopyisapig Tue 23-Jul-13 08:27:28

I am so sorry to hear some of the news on here yesterday.

I wish I hadn't tested so early now. I had some horrible sharp pains last night.

jmf294 Tue 23-Jul-13 08:27:38

Good luck Gary- hope all goes well.

Hope scans go well for DIY and Saggy.

Fod- so sorry to hear about the loss of your colleague, how very sad, they must have been in a dark place.

Thunder- next time bring lots of cooling rain, fed up of being hot!!

Awaiting royal baby name and wondering if it will be our current favourite James!!

GuffSmuggler Tue 23-Jul-13 08:42:40

Good luck with the scans DIY and saggy.

Thinking of you cam x

IBelieveInPink Tue 23-Jul-13 08:48:33

Good luck for scans today!

Gary - super exciting! Hopefully not long to go now!

Thunder - yes, shhh. Kept me awake all night and I have a busy day today! ;)

I have been really trying not to moan, I love the heat I do, but it's too damn hot!! I can't take it!! Sorry, I know we should be grateful for it, but it's just unbearable trying to sleep now!! Raaa! Pity anyone with morning sickness in this heat!

WhatWillSantaBring Tue 23-Jul-13 08:55:14

bod its strange isn't it, feeling resentment for someone who has had their baby even when you're pg. I'm like that at the mo, though wierdly not with K-Mid, even though she announced when I was not pg.

I really feel for all the girls who lost their babies yesterday, because it will be impossible to hide from all the crap. (And whilst I am an ardent monarchist and very excited about the whole thing, there is SOOOO much crap being spouted. "Oh yes, its quite likely that the baby and the mother will be examined to make sure that they're all fit and well before they're allowed to go home." No shit sherlock hmm)

IBIP - sorry to say that Baby C is already earmarked for my DD1. I have an in too. (My sister met the brother recently, on a social level. He liked her dog.) Slightly disappointed that its a boy, partly because I'm convinced I'm having a boy too (and despite what my mother says, I don't think the monarchy is that modern yet) and partly because it would have been so much more historic if it had been a girl. We're not going to see another Queen crowned in our lifetimes ladies...

Haven't even started thinking of discussing names yet, but had an emergency chat with DH this morning to lay cards on the table re boy favourites, just in case. Currently my faves are Harry (though christened Henry) and Freddie (Alfred). Boys names are sooooooooo hard. I really want a boy but if I have a girl, I have a heap of names I'd like to use.

shellsocks Tue 23-Jul-13 09:03:33

I'm giving in pink and moaning...DH has had to take the morning off to look after DS, I'm full of cold/sore throat and didn't sleep hardly at all last night just lay there sweating like mad and burning up hmm I feel terrible, woe is me hmm

Good luck for your scans diy and saggy smile

Thinking of you cam, myrtle and venus x

gary burger was AWESOME highly recommended grin I couldn't eat at all in labour so get your maccies in now before its too late wink Hope things start moving along today, did you get much sleep?

JBrd Tue 23-Jul-13 09:15:17

Good luck for the scans today, saggy and DIY, fingers crossed for good news!

My heart goes out to the ones who are/have just lost their babies, there is nowhere to hide at the moment, is there. Hugs to you all xxx

Feeling really tearful today - combination of a bad night's sleep (bloody thunderstorms, plus having DS in bed with us, something we never usually do) and the Royal baby coinciding more or less with my EDD from my mc sad I can't help feeling sooo jealous of Kate and William, who are now having the gorgeous newborn cuddles. I know it's stupid, but I can't help it. <<hormonal mess>>

I think I will have to tell my boss I'm pg soon - my appointment with the consultant came through yesterday, and it's the day before my booking in appt, so I will have to take time off twice on consecutive days. Unless I can move one of the appointments, to have them both on the same day, then I can just take a half day and come up with an explanation of lots of tests etc. But I think I'd like to tell her, just in case it all goes wrong and I suddenly have to disappear... Decisions, decisions.

CamomileHoneyVanilla Tue 23-Jul-13 09:24:54

So sorry Myrtle and Venus. It does suck. But I'm sure we'll get there soon. flowers Xx

Saggy - I'll keep my eye out. I'm not a 'single glistening tear rolling down the cheek kind of person'. If you see someone wailing, blotchy face, tears and snot everywhere etc that'll likely be me. Failing that I'll have my long haired metaller DH with me potentially with a single glistening tear)! I really hope your scan goes brilliantly lovey. Good luck. X

DIY - I was convinced it would be a girl too.

Good luck today Gary. Very exciting!

CamomileHoneyVanilla Tue 23-Jul-13 09:26:38

And good luck with the scan DIY. X

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Tue 23-Jul-13 10:01:35

Me neither Cam! I was howling all over the place last time! I had quite a large cry in the car on the way in this morning! mainly because is drunk so much water I wanted it hurt!

Well, there is a tiny alien in there, it has a tiny heart beat and is 4 days older than I thought! grin

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Tue 23-Jul-13 10:05:09

<<hoping for good news for everyone else today.>>

GardenWorm Tue 23-Jul-13 10:11:15

Whoop Whoop Saggy!!!!! So how old is said alien now? grin

grin saggy

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Tue 23-Jul-13 11:11:43

6.4! grin

GaryBuseysTeeth Tue 23-Jul-13 11:35:59

Well Gary Jr is staying put for now it seems. Not crown -ing or having any contractions anymore. Boooring.

<pompoms> for your tiny, but 4 day older than you thought alien Saggy!!

poopy, hope you feel better soon & the pains go away.

shellsocks Tue 23-Jul-13 11:52:59

That's brill saggy smile very pleased for you!

Booooooo gary grin

BlackholesAndRevelations Tue 23-Jul-13 12:51:38

Great news saggy!

Gary- this sort of thing can last for weeks before baby actually comes. When is your due date? Hope it hurries up though as there's nothing more frustrating than waiting- especially if it looks like things are happening!! Very excited to hear your announcement though, hopefully soon!

I spent a whole day having strong contractions then they stopped completely, and DS wasnt born til 4 days later!! He was my second too.

Pentagon Tue 23-Jul-13 12:56:59

great news saggy, congratz!

santa I agree with you - it would have been more exciting if the royal baby were a girl...now we have 3 male heirs to the throne, yawn...And in DH's opinion, our most successful monarchs have been female anyway (with the exception of Henry VIII) - not that he's a history expert or anything, just in his humble opinion grin

jbrd I think it's worth telling your boss, I told my line manager very early on

CamomileHoneyVanilla Tue 23-Jul-13 13:03:37

Hey folks. I'll also be slinking off back to the TTC thread. EPU confirmed complete miscarriage. We're now consoling ourselves with Camembert, wine and rare steak. Thanks for all the support and wishing you all healthy, happy pregnancies. Take care x

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Tue 23-Jul-13 13:06:04

Oh honey! sad Im so sorry. I really hope that you will be back here REALLY soon. xxx

WhatWillSantaBring Tue 23-Jul-13 13:08:19

jbrd I second telling your boss. Mine was the first to know this time (apart from DH), because I knew I'd have lots of antenatal appts before it went public, and I didn't want to have to go through the whole "I was pregnant now I'm not" conversation for a third time. You can explain that you don't want to make it public yet but you will tell her when its official. Unless she's a prize cow, of course, in which case I'd tell HR instead.

Just read a horrid post on the mc boards from a lady who doesn't trust her HR not to tell everyone that she had a mc, so doesn't want to say anything, but they're refusing to accept her Dr's note without an explanation. I know a lot of people struggle with HR issues, but seriously? I can't believe some people are that shit at their jobs, I really can't. sad

Equally, I'm v impressed with the staff at the Lindo wing. To have kept news like that quiet for 4 hours is pretty good (I know, patient confidentiality is part and parcel but still, I think its impressive).

Fab news saggy on the presence of an alien life form. Long may we continue to spawn little parasites in our uteruses. (Except for you, Gary, I hope its not long at all).

Stats list update time?

WhatWillSantaBring Tue 23-Jul-13 13:09:18

Oh no, x-posts with cam. I'm so so sorry for your loss. Look after yourself and we hope to see you again really really soon. {{{hugs}}}

BlackholesAndRevelations Tue 23-Jul-13 13:10:27

Oh cam sad so very sorry to hear this. Look after yourselves xxx

JanieLovesLuckySocks Tue 23-Jul-13 13:36:24

oh cam i'm so sorry the worst has been confirmed. i hope you can take a good bit of time to get through this sad time. i really am so sorry xx

ChristineDaae Tue 23-Jul-13 13:41:33

Cam I'm so sorry. I hope we see you back here soon sadenjoy your steak.

Saggy, v happy for you, I think you joined the TTC thread about the same time as me!

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Tue 23-Jul-13 13:41:53

Santa there's no reason that Camilla or Kate wont be crowned...

WhatWillSantaBring Tue 23-Jul-13 13:54:00

True, saggy, but part of me wants them to scrap that - the whole wives taking the status of their husbands is a bit, well, old fashioned? Plus, if it HAD been a girl, then they woudn't have crowned the son that I'm growing at the moment her spouse as King.

<<idly daydreams of what I would have worn to the coronation, assuming that I live longer than Wills>>

WhatWillSantaBring Tue 23-Jul-13 13:55:02

Apologies, completely overexcited by the whole royal baby thing!! grin crown

andadietcoke Tue 23-Jul-13 14:01:49

Oh Cam, sorry to see you go. Enjoy your steak, and hide away from everything until you feel better.

Saggy congratulations on the impending arrival of an alien. Awesome news. grin

Santa yep - my HR manager did exactly that. Everyone knew, including the CEO, who was the last person in the world I wanted to find out. Apart from the day it was confirmed at the EPU I didn't have any time off to minimise any gossiping, and there was no point at all. Argh.

GuffSmuggler Tue 23-Jul-13 14:11:32

So sorry cam, please hide away don't watch the news or buy any newspapers and take godo care of yourself x

saggy fantastic news, what's your revised EDD then?

GaryBuseysTeeth Tue 23-Jul-13 14:55:01

Cam, I'm so sorry for your loss. 'Relieved' (sorry, I can't think of a more sensistive wording) it's a completed mc & you can get back to ttc again asap.
Enjoy the steak, wine & other banned foods...hope you're managing to avoid the news. x

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Tue 23-Jul-13 15:04:26

Revised EDD 14 March.

BumpKitty Tue 23-Jul-13 17:25:09

cam so sorry that it was what you thought, I really hope to see you back soon. xxx

saggy congratulations on your little bean with a heart beat! I'm really pleased for you.

Amazing that both of you have been in the same EPAU today, I really hope your next visit cam is a happy one.

those of you with completely insensitive HR is there anyone you can complain to? I know its a different issue but the week before my mum died one of my colleague's also lost his mum, his boss (not the same as my boss) was absolutely awful, sending him texts to pester him and find out the latest as she was on life support, then asking if he'd be in the next day when she had died! Because he complained so much about his treatment I could not have been treated better when my mum died. So it is worth complaining about this stuff.

cam I am so sorry for your news today. It's so unfair. Enjoy that steak and wine my lovely x

Chocolateteabag Tue 23-Jul-13 18:34:06

Cam - can only echo what everyone has said before me, sorry that it's been confirmed but (teeny) silver lining that it's complete. Hoping it won't be long til you have a truly sticky one and a safe and happy pg. flowers

RainbowConnections Tue 23-Jul-13 19:48:35

Hi. Been lurking and dithering about asking to join your thread.
Cam so so sorry to see your news. Sorry to others too who are having a bad week.

I got BFP late last week so just a couple of weeks pregnant. MC 5 wks ago and another 7 wks before that. Have 3yo DS. Managing not to obsess about this pregnancy so far. Feeling like I'll cope whatever happens but it'd be good to have company. Wary that there was a hint from a friend of willingly putting myself at heigtened risk of MC by not taking a break before TTC again after first MC so not telling friends that I'm pregnant until I'm much further on.

GardenWorm Tue 23-Jul-13 19:54:54

Hello and welcome Rainbow here's to a healthy pregnancy third time lucky x

Cam so sorry it was what you had thought. Words are not enough xxx

Just seen KMid - who had the baby for her??? Has she been walking around with a pillow up her dress for the last 6 months....obviously I looked just like that after DD. Not. She wasn't even walking funny! grin

jmf294 Tue 23-Jul-13 20:13:13

Welcome Rainbow- these other ladies here have been a great source of support and strength for me in my pregnancy so far.

Cam- so sorry, thought with you and take things gently.

I cried a lot when the royal baby came out to meet the world- hormones heh!! The Duchess looked perfect, and not surprisingly emotional. I wish them much happiness as a new family as despite its perks it's a tough job they do.

GuffSmuggler Tue 23-Jul-13 20:26:23

Hi rainbow great to see you here, really hope this one is sticky.

Ignore your stupid friend, on the TTC after MC thread the general consensus was there is no known risk getting PG straight after MC they just advise it for dating reasons.

Pentagon Tue 23-Jul-13 20:28:28

cam I'm so sorry your suspicions came true...all the best for next time!

DIY how did your scan go?

welcome rainbow and congratulations on your BFP! I think everyone tries to blame miscarriage on one thing or another but most of the time it's not something you're doing or not doing...better keep it from your friends for a while, fingers crosses all goes well this time

Kate looked amazing indeed! I felt bad for them though, having to parade their baby in front of everyone...part of the job description of course - being a royal certainly isn't easy

DIYandEatCake Tue 23-Jul-13 20:37:57

Sorry for being so slow! 20 week scan went well, there's a perfectly normal little boy in there smile. Due date is 10th dec (though on my dates would have been 16th). So chuffed to be joining all you guys past the 'half way' point. I now have a sudden urge to sort the house out... Might live up to my name again one of these days lol. Baby was very wriggly, so much so that we didn't buy a picture, they were all just blurs or a vaguely discernible bum and legs.

cam I'm so sorry and I really hope we see you back here again soon. Look after yourself.

Welcome rainbow!

GardenWorm Tue 23-Jul-13 20:56:54

Oh Diy that is wonderful news to end the day on! Congratulations grin

JanieLovesLuckySocks Tue 23-Jul-13 21:01:30

Aw DIY that's just fab!!! And a little boy to join the gaggle of girlies on the thread!! Delighted it all went well smile

Hi rainbow, welcome to the best support group on earth (or online!!). Fx this one is a nice wee sticky one x

BlackholesAndRevelations Tue 23-Jul-13 21:02:24

Yay DIY! Really happy for you grin

Welcome rainbow, and all the very best for a healthy one this time xx

I surprised myself by getting very emotional at royal baby too! Bless them all! Now if they'd only just tell us his bloody name!! grin

GuffSmuggler Tue 23-Jul-13 21:09:48

Fantastic news DIY grin

Pentagon Tue 23-Jul-13 21:20:50

wonderful news, congratulations DIY! smile

jmf294 Tue 23-Jul-13 21:27:38

Yeah DIY- another member for team blue.
Terrible confession here, before I had children I had always thought that boy children were boring and not as fun as girls. When I was pregnant with my first child I was convinced he was a boy and when I met him I fell in love so deeply and honestly believed he was the most gorgeous totally wonderful baby in the world and I love having a boy!!

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Tue 23-Jul-13 21:36:41

Well Ive had my chips thoroughly pissed on tonight.sad
I told my friend about the baby. One of my best friends, my horsey friend who I see every day, and have done for nearly a decade. The friend with whom I share everything and who does the same to me. The friend who knows how upset I was to MC and what I went through TTC...
Her response? "So that's you sitting on your bum for the next nine months doing nothing I suppose!" and she walked away! sad
This is all because when I was PG last time, and bleeding, and worried sick, I refused to help move a 4ft round bale of hay. Apparently I was milking it.
I am really hurt.

Pentagon Tue 23-Jul-13 21:48:05

oh saggy that's awful - how rude and insensitive of your friend. You should tell her how your comment made you feel. I would be really hurt and upset too...

Pentagon Tue 23-Jul-13 21:49:02

her comment, sorry!

JBrd Tue 23-Jul-13 21:50:42

Cam So sorry to hear your sad news. Be gentle with yourself and take time to heal. xx

Oh, saggy, that's rubbish! Really not a nice way to react, and even worse if it's coming from someone you trusted. Sounds as if she managed to crush your high from the scan angry.
Let me guess - she doesn't have children or has ever been pg?!? Surely not, to make a comment like that! I can understand that you are hurt, any chance that you can sit down with her and talk about how you feel? Because she needs to understand what's going through your mind, if you are to stay friends. Being around horses/doing horsey stuff is really tricky when you're pg. Hopefully, you can sort it all out with her.

I am so unbelievably tired, it's not even 10pm, but I'm heading for bed. It's really strange - I'm fine during the day, no problems with tiredness or concentration, but the minute I come home, I crash.

Guess that'd be a symptom, then...

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Tue 23-Jul-13 21:51:51

I can understand that she doesn't have children and never wanted them, and she probably isn't that interested, but I didn't even get her generic "ah, well done" that she normally gives people when she isn't interested.

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Tue 23-Jul-13 21:55:38

Jbrd I think this might start a real cooling off in our relationship. DD has been really fed up with her for some time. She is growing more and more cantankerous, and DD and her friend have no fun anymore. They just get nagged and moaned at. Ive been building bridges for a long time, because she is my friend, and we have shared a lot, but I think a break would do us all good.

DIYandEatCake Tue 23-Jul-13 22:37:24

jmf thanks, I'm glad you said that! I have a dd and love her more than I can describe and I was kind of thinking I'd l

Bodicea Tue 23-Jul-13 22:56:43

Saggy that is horrible. She doesn't sound like a very good friend to me. I think you need tell her she owes you a serious apology. She obviously has issues with you being pregnant and that is not what you need right now x

DIY congratulations on your scan and little boy news xx

Bodicea Tue 23-Jul-13 22:58:44

Eek just ordered a recaro car seat form kiddicare as they are 20% off right now x

BlackholesAndRevelations Tue 23-Jul-13 23:17:08

Saggy- she obviously has issues with you being preg but it's way out of line to talk to you like that. How rude. Could she be jealous and resentful that she hasn't got any children?

DIY- I have a boy and a girl and while I'm delighted to have my girl, I ADORE my boy! I'm actually hoping number three is a boy although I have loads and loads more beautiful girls names

shellsocks Tue 23-Jul-13 23:23:54

So sorry cam hope you are being looked after x

Welcome rainbow and congrats smile

Loved the royal baby and Kate looked great...I thought they did very well, DH was joking at the state I would have been in! I did not envy her one bit but thought it was great smile

Great scan news DIY and a boy grin Get thinking of names now...and share with us of course! wink

Sorry abt your friend saggy bit of distance is prob for the best hmm

bod not sure what the seat is you have bought, but I was getting a new seat for DS the other day and they told me in mothercare not to buy yet for the new baby as the laws changing soon to be rear facing up to 15m so all new seats are coming out...apparently that's why loads of good offers on seats at the min as they will be out dated soon hmm

JanieLovesLuckySocks Tue 23-Jul-13 23:26:30

Ooh bod well done!! Our car seat got delivered to my parents house last week and I'm yet to visit it heehee! This is real!

I'm convinced I'm having a boy, no real reason, just an inkling I have! Most of my friends have boys and I've only ever had boy cats so maybe that's why! Ha!

Saggy, sorry to hear your friend has made you feel so down. Could she be jealous? Or just an insensitive cow. Maybe it's time to keep some distance and maybe she'll realise how out if order she was. Chin up, today you are pregnant and that's the awesome bit grin

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Tue 23-Jul-13 23:58:39

Ill get over it. That's her all over! Very selfish really. Luckily underneath there is usually a heart of gold too! She is just having a lapse!
Janie Im convinced Ive got a boy too! at 6.4!!
I was convinced that the mc was a girl.

diy congratulations! I don't have any DCs but I have two nephews and they are gorgeous.

saggy I am shock at your 'friend'. Time to cool off indeed methinks. How bloody rude.

Just got 3+ on my last digi
It came up within about 5 seconds

smile

andadietcoke Wed 24-Jul-13 07:07:06

bod yay for car seat buying

janie that made me smile. I haven't 'visited' my car seat or buggy yet either.

IBelieveInPink Wed 24-Jul-13 07:24:30

Sorry, have been a bit out of it the last couple days, doing some shitty stuff at work, very much looking forward to may leave now! Although it's still ages away.

Cam - so sorry to hear your news.

Saggy - yay for a great scan! So pleased. Your friend doesn't sound like a friend at all. I agree she sounds jealous. Mine has been a little like that on occasions, although not to the same extent.

Thunder - fab news on your 3+! Step by step....

DIY - a boy! Wooooo! That's great news and there is loads of cute boy outfits around! how lovely.

Bod and Janie - fab news for car seat buying! Another step closer...

Diet - how are you doing? Is it time to get scan fear yet again? You get seen a lot more towards the end with twins don't you? Do you have another appointment soon?

Gary - all stopped? Or any signs?

Could everyone who has a big list of girl names share them?! We are still struggling! DH doesn't see this as a problem, I keep thinking our poor baby won't have a name!

Chocolateteabag Wed 24-Jul-13 07:29:33

I liked that K Mid was still showing a little bump the day after and wasn't trying to hide it. Shows that it's normal not to "ping" back into place immediately - funny how we don't see many celebs immediately after they've given birth!

Saggy - sounds like your friend has her own weird issues going on, I think your plan to cool off is a good one, esp if she is also not great with your DD. either it' s a natural end to the friendship or it'll give her a kick to make more effort with all of you.

Hi Rainbow and congrats! Don't believe anyone who says that taking a rest makes any difference. We either have the bad luck of something going wrong with the dividing cells or we have something wrong with us that "resting" can't cure. But today you are pregnant!!

andadietcoke Wed 24-Jul-13 07:42:38

Ooh yes, hi to rainbow and congratulations. Don't worry - as others have said it just seems to be about dating and your mental well being rather than changing any outcomes for your pregnancy.

ibip no scan doom yet. Have 8 more days at work so that's pre-occupying me a bit. Scan doom normally sets in in the second half of the four weeks, so this time next week it'll be on its way. It's easier at the moment because I feel them both moving regularly, but in the next week or so they'll start to run out of room and I won't have that luxury. Next scan and appt is the 13th August at 36 weeks. Given 60% twins arrive before 37 weeks getting to that appt might be the challenge!

We're struggling with girls' names too - we've considered:
Sophie, Charlotte, Mia, Mila, Naomi, Ruby, Poppy (which I absolutely love but surname is Brown and it sounds like a half dead Poppy to me), Eleni, Xanthe, Elodie. Not sure what else. Still haven't been brave enough to post on baby names!

Ooh, nice SiL has her 12w scan today - exciting! smile

GardenWorm Wed 24-Jul-13 07:48:55

Argh! Over emotional, hormonal mess here. Childminder is packing it in at the end of August. She's a saint. DD adores her and talks about her ALL the time, she is going to be gutted sad I keep welling up at how upset she will be when she can't go anymore and now we are childcareless from Sep-Nov with no help for when I pop! Sob. I need a magic fairy wand please if anyone has one?

BlackholesAndRevelations Wed 24-Jul-13 08:01:28

Garden- we're in the exact same position but luckily have just been able to up the hours at nursery as they went to both. Will need to find another cm ASAP but no one will be good enough :-(

Eek I'm so excited for you Anda- your girls are going to ve here very soon!

Gary? Are you there?! grin

IBelieveInPink Wed 24-Jul-13 08:12:36

Diet - those are lovely names! The only ones we have managed to agree on so far are Mya, Imogen and Natasha. I know we only need one, but I feel like there needs to be more options!
And wow, august is soon! Oh I can't wait till you have your babies, going to be so exciting!!

ChristineDaae Wed 24-Jul-13 08:13:01

Hi rainbow! Congrats OB your BFP.
DIY - congratulations on your healthy boy! How exciting smile
Saggy- that's terrible from your friend. I definitely think a bit of cooling off time is needed

Bodicea Wed 24-Jul-13 08:46:01

Oh now shell am in a panic now. Everything I order for this baby falls apart. I never got the cot i ordered as hey kept losing it and then went out of stock. Argh

shellsocks Wed 24-Jul-13 09:15:55

janie I know I'm having a boy too, will be the biggest shock of my life if they pop out a girl grin

thunder brilliant getting the 3+, such a good feeling smile

pink no list here, we have had Evie as a girls name for years....now boys I need help with! The only one we agree on is Noah but I would like more! Loving yours and anda's name lists smile

choc I liked that abt Kate too, she looked great but didn't try to hide that she had just had a baby smile

That's bad timing garden can you turn your hormonal tears to good use and ask beg for longer?

I'm sorry bod I just thought you'd rather know now so you can send it back, rather than use it for a month or so and realise it was a waste of money? Maybe go into mothercare or similar and ask them abt the new rules and the seat you have bought...they said to me that current seats hold babies up to 83cm but new seats need to hold up to 85? So it might be your seat is ok? Sorry if I've stressed you out x

Bodicea Wed 24-Jul-13 09:25:57

Right so just googled it and it is rear facing. Few. It's the recaro young profit plus x
So I think should be ok right. Unless get change the las so all the car seats have to be completely different or something !?

WhatWillSantaBring Wed 24-Jul-13 09:27:53

Hey bod don't worry about the car seat. They've been talking about changing the laws on rear facing car seats for the past 3 years - in Scandanavia, they're compulsory (I think) till age 4. If you are small, you might well have a small baby anyway - DC1 was (is) so diddy that she fitted in her Group 0/0+ till she was 22 months (and even then, could have gone another couple of months), so you may well be able to keep your DC in his/her first car seat for at least 15 months anyway. Remember, it goes on height, not age. (Eyes below top of the seat).

Also, you can get rear facing car seats from 0-3 (i.e. up to age 4) so if the law changes, and you're growing out of it, you just get the next stage up as a rear facer too. So no need to panic.

All you need for the baby for the first 6 weeks is a shit load of babygrows (and vests if its winter), a pram, a car seat and a moses basket. You can get the cot and everything else later when you work out which way is up again. They're simple little souls when they're born unlike now when they're nearly three and demanding a swing with a blue seat

I have lots of girls names if anyone wants some? Clementine, Charlotte, Amelia, Emilia, Amelie, Emma (spot a theme) Sophia, Isabella, Alice (though DH has flatly refused that, because of that slightly obscure song from the 90s "Who the F--k is Alice") Katie, Libbie (though christen Elizabeth). I'm sure there are more but those are my favourites. Not sure we can afford the seven children I'd need to use them all Its boys names I'm stuck on. At least I'm not K-Mid - imagine having to pick a boys name that really does work as a King name - not a lot of choice from the British Royal family, is there!!

WhatWillSantaBring Wed 24-Jul-13 09:29:49

Oh bod also, I should point out, that all newborn car seats are rear facing anyway (as far as I know?). Its only after about 9 months that you can get forward facing ones.

shellsocks Wed 24-Jul-13 09:38:23

bod santa is right, all car seats for new borns are currently rear facing till 9m / 20lb but the law is changing to be rear facing to 15m....I don't know when just was told it would be before this baby was born.

My DS was 20lb at 5m shock but we kept him in the seat till 7m he wouldn't have lasted till 9, let alone 15 so we would have needed to buy another seat for him....so we are waiting and buying one of the new ones?

Bodicea Wed 24-Jul-13 10:43:36

Thanks guys. Ok think I understand, the newborn seats are ok. It's the next stage up that are changing and they may need it a bit sooner that before. Have I got that right. So I am ok? Or should I cancel order and wait. Lol it's a minefield. Maybe should have done more research!!

GaryBuseysTeeth Wed 24-Jul-13 11:06:36

Still pregnant....nothing since yesterday. Annoyed at myself, because I never had anything like it with DS, I assumed it was 'It'!
Sticking my fingers in ears & pretending I'm not pg for the next 4weeks (37+4).

Saggy, your friend sounds like a total Codpiece. Hope the break from her isn't too painful for you or DD.

DIY, hurrah for a boy!

Thunder, glad you got your 3+, that was my first milestone this pg.

Re.Car seats & da rulz changing, from what I gather the old laws will run along side the new ones until 2018! Britax info (info is avalible independently but Britax explain it best).
DH's job is all about road laws & they've not heard a sausage yet!

anda, good luck for your SIL!

My girls names would've been; Cordelia, Cressida, Elizabeth, Katherine, Selina...basically anything really poncy!
Love Mya IBIP, I'm one of those people who is put off a name if I meet someone horrible with it (Alice, Rebecca, Harvey to name a few)!

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Wed 24-Jul-13 11:09:19

Has anyone seen the royal baby car seat thread? It's quite amusing! Apparently, nobody is allowed to criticise them for getting it wrong because they are in the spotlight and deserve a break! confused Because anyone else in the world would have been reduced to salvageable parts by Mumsnet by now for getting it wrong! hmm

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Wed 24-Jul-13 11:10:57

grin @ Gary's "total codpiece"! grin I know I'm probably being a bit unreasonable about it, but thanks for making me laugh!

shellsocks Wed 24-Jul-13 11:19:58

Thanks gary grin Sorry things have stopped for now...just keep resting as it may strike at anytime now shocksmile

bod the new rules are from birth but as per gary's post are running alongside the old rules for a few years so its up to you whether you keep the seat you have bought or go with the new rules? Coulda told me that in mothercare! Think I'm gonna stick with the plan of getting the new type tho, as its for safety reasons? Confusing confused

The 2018 rules state that kids up to 12 have to be in a high back booster seat shock Cant imagine telling my nephew that!

IBelieveInPink Wed 24-Jul-13 13:43:29

Gary - you get a gold star for the codpiece comment!
I love the name cordelia, but DH said no. Mya is cute isn't it, im just not sure if it's too close to Mia which is quite popular?

Saggy - what did they do wrong with the car seat?!

DIYandEatCake Wed 24-Jul-13 15:30:43

pink I used to teach a Maya (different spelling, same pronunciation I think?) and she was lovely, love the name! It's not very common round here.
shell thanks for clearing up the car seat thing, was the first I'd heard of it and i was starting to worry we wouldn't be able to use dd's old one.
saggy Gary is so right! But also wonder if your friend might be a bit jealous for reasons she hasn't told anyone about.
Thanks for all the lovely comments, I feel so lucky to still be here, can hardly believe it. I'm now v excited about the idea of having a boy (the post I lost most of was basically saying I'd been expecting them to say 'girl' as that's all I could imagine, with a dd and coming from a family of girls!). And I'll have an excuse to buy more cute baby clothes (though so will mil... Eek!)

GardenWorm Wed 24-Jul-13 15:57:12

Thanks Blackholes my mum used to be a childminder and she just reminds me of how my mum used to be with the kids (like they were one of their own) and I know ones like that are hard to come by! Unfortunately no amount of sobbing/begging will work Shell, she starts a job in Sep. Still it has forced me to start maternity leave earlier so my last day will be 25th Oct....only 3 months left!

Bodicea Wed 24-Jul-13 16:07:27

Cancelled it. Gonna wait it out. It is a bit early anyhow and it wasnt that much of a bargain. Thanks for advice girls.

My girls names are Charlotte, Clara and cleo. I seem to have a thing about the letter c! Charlotte is the front runner but we would call here Charlie from the start in order to avoid lottie which i hate. I also quite like frances, Francesca and Josephine none of which work with my rather awkward surname. Also like Philipa but the poppa Middleton has spoilt it a bit for me.

Bodicea Wed 24-Jul-13 16:09:38

Garden that must be gutting. Have put my name down for childminder already! She is very popular!

Rockchick1984 Wed 24-Jul-13 16:15:28

Bodicea just be aware that although you can push for Charlie while she's little, chances are she will shorten it to something else when she gets a bit older. My name is Elizabeth, my parents always called me Libby until I was about 6 and decided I wanted to "sound like a grown up" and insisted everyone called me Lizzie instead hmm so just be certain you are happy with nicknames in case she does the same!!

Hello ladies. I have had a horrible day- only just bringing myself to write about it without sobbing!

So after my great 3+ start to the day, I rang up to get my thyroid results and was initially told 'yes they're fine'. Insisted to know the actual number and it's more than doubled since the last test- queue total panic. Insist on speaking to a doctor whilst fuming- just because its within the questionable NHS levels- and near the top at that, it's more than double the level at which they see as max for pregnancy.

Speak to yet another doctor and have to go through the whole 'these are the guidelines' conversation yet again after she tells me to wait a month and have another test. So she agrees I can up my dose a bit and go back in 4-6 weeks. Just so sick of having to fight my corner and explain these things to the people who are supposed to be looking after me.

So in the end I ring the midwife unit too. I know I'll get a consultant when I book in and I just wanted to chat to someone about how frightened and frustrated I am by all this. Well, she was LOVELY. She's going to ring me tomorrow and personally put me down for early booking in and referral. And breathe. (A bit).

Sorry for rant, the worlds been falling apart today and that's been between meetings/trains etc etc. sad

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Wed 24-Jul-13 17:20:48

Thunder have a {{{hug}}} matey.
The thing ive learnrd about the nhs over the years is you have to stamp your feet and fight your corner all of the time.
IBIP the baby was swaddled in the car seat with the straps over the top. A real no no. His arm was not under one of the straps and they were far too loose. Ideally they need to be TIGHT!

Bodicea Wed 24-Jul-13 17:25:20

thunder - I second with saggy. you do have to stamp your feet sometimes x

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Wed 24-Jul-13 17:28:00

Exactly! I am having a very sage and wise day today. smile

You have to stamp your feet every bloody time! It's not right it's not. and I should be paid more for it

Just hope there's no harm done.

saggy have you seen your 'friend' today?

IBelieveInPink Wed 24-Jul-13 18:50:39

Ooh Prince George! Is that anyone's name stolen?

shellsocks Wed 24-Jul-13 19:04:06

I don't know what to think abt this bloody car seat thing now I've done some Internet research....the new seats might not even be out before I have the baby, bloody mothercare angry confusedJust gonna wait till October I think and decide then?

I finish on 16th garden smile

Sorry you are having a shit time thunder just gotta keep pushing I guess but it's not right is it hmm

IBelieveInPink Wed 24-Jul-13 20:05:13

Sorry, threw that message out there and hadn't caught up. Thunder that sucks! What a worry! Why are they not being more helpful ( I know you don't know this, just exhasperating for you!) glad you did find someone more helpful, but you really shouldn't have to!
It does still amaze me, you hear some lovely stories of fantastic care, then in a different place 10 miles away, you get crap like this?!

Sorry - rant over! Hope you okay x

maybemyrtle Wed 24-Jul-13 20:11:03

Hi ladies, so Prince George! Wishing I'd put a tenner on that yesterday.

Just wanted to update on my situation after Monday's scan. Beware - pity party post ahead.

My HCG on Monday was 6900 and today is 7300 so it's looking like an ectopic. I'm back in tomorrow for further assessment, but after some digging on the NHS site it looks as though it'll have to be operated on (rather than medical mgmt) as HCG is over 5k.

Scared that my body is getting old and with one tube missing, won't ever produce a child. I only ovulated because of clomid (mmc in March 2012 and had been trying since then) and apparently clomid itself increases risk of ectopic 4-fold. Scared that each twinge is the start of a rupture. Feeling doom and gloom and just want tomorrow over and done with.

Thanks for letting me vent x

WhatWillSantaBring Wed 24-Jul-13 20:11:51

Panic not ladies, if you buy a Group 0+ car seat that does (approx) 0-18 months or up to 29lbs. That will cover you for the law changes, whenever they come in. We went for a maxi cosi cabriofix and it was fab. We got a base for it as we'll, which was expensive but really useful as it lets you pop the seat in and out in secs (as demonstrated by HRH yesterday) which for a newborn is a godsend, as you cart em everywhere in a car seat! Bases come in two sorts - isofix and belted, though maxi cosi do one that works wit both (handy if you a new car and a banger!)

I would also recommend a trip to an independent baby shop or John Lewis for advice. Halfords and Argos can be worse than useless (dangerous in fact) especially if you get a Saturday boy/girl.

I'm slightly OCD about researching things like this so happy to go and look at my which! account if anyone wants safety ratings etc! Though might not be till Friday pm as I have a nightmare day and a half at work to get through!

WhatWillSantaBring Wed 24-Jul-13 20:16:42

Oh no, sorry x-post with myrtle. That sucks - and it's not a pity post at all. I'm not sure if its comforting or not, but my mmc #2 in feb had that level of increase and they didn't suspect an ectopic. Although its shit in every way, An operation does have advantages in getting it done and letting you move on to trying again, rather than weeks of waiting. {{{hugs}}}

BlackholesAndRevelations Wed 24-Jul-13 20:25:41

Sorry myrtle sad hope it's not as bad as you suspect xxx

I have the cabriofix (didn't realise it was a 0+, think mine is only 0 unless there are two types? Correct me if I'm wrong!) both my children were in it til after a year and could possibly have been up to 15 months. Of course it depends on size and length of baby but as long as their head is below the top of the back, it's ok. Doesn't matter if their legs are bowed. Not a bad idea to wait though as long as new ones are out in plenty of time. What a worry!

BlackholesAndRevelations Wed 24-Jul-13 20:27:51

And, oh my gosh, googled royal baby carseat and am stunned!! Why didnt a midwife or someone show them how to do it?! shock

Lieslvontrapp Wed 24-Jul-13 21:00:09

DIY congrats on the scan and it being a boy!

Saggy c

Lieslvontrapp Wed 24-Jul-13 21:14:16

DIY congrats on the scan and it being a boy!

Saggy congrats on the early scan and hope you can get to the bottom of the rude reaction from your friend.

Thunder congrats on the 3+ and sorry youve had to stamp your feet to get action on your levels.

Gary & Anda sounds like neither of you have too long to go.

Well I've had a bit if a meltdown today. Got my '12 week' scan through today and it will be when I'm 13+2 according to my dates and 14 weeks according to the midwife. Gutted I have to wait so long. I'm annoyed that the gp surgery told me I couldn't have a booking in until 10+ weeks and now I've got such a late 12 week scan. Also got worried about the nt but my nhs book says they can do it up to 14+1. Also getting worried I'll have a obvious bump by then and people at work will gossip. Started to feel a bit paranoid about my expanding waistline already. Is this the pregnancy hormones making me like this?

28313 Wed 24-Jul-13 21:34:14

Anyone here after a full term still birth?

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Wed 24-Jul-13 21:48:08

Myrtle, im not sure, as I MC my ectopic, but can they not just remove the PG and leave the tube? I thought they only removed the tube if it ruptured?
Did they say you had a PG of unknown location?

So sorry murtlesad, hoping against all odds for you xxx

Diy congrats on baby boy scansmile

George for the future King a lovely name, also like the Alexander as the middle name as well as Louissmile
I have the same carseat for baba as the future kingsmile, i'm sure he was belted correctly one in the car!

Getting very nervous about my private scan on saturday, hoping to find out babas flavour & hoping all is okay. Managed to pick babas heartbeat up on my angelsounds today, finally! Was about to send it backconfused

IBelieveInPink Wed 24-Jul-13 22:11:02

So sorry myrtle. Hoping for the best and quickest outcome for you.x

If anyone is in need of a giggle, please head over to the 'childbirth' catagory and read the thread 'did you poo'. Have been bellyaching laughing. and dreading what is to come...

JanieLovesLuckySocks Wed 24-Jul-13 22:15:13

oh myrtle i'm sorry to read your news. i hope it isn't an ectopic, but if it is, the only positive is that they discovered it early rather than later. i hope they can help you as soon as possible whatever the outcome. sending you a big hug.

thunder, sorry you've had a worrying day. bloody hospitals grrr. i sympathise about their lack of knowledge and bloody annoying paperwork. everytime i have an appointment with this pg they ask me about my miscarriage and how i was diagnosed with a molar pregnancy after the pathology tests and then i have to go through the whole rigmarole of how i was monitored for months and was then told it was a misdiagnosis. every bloody appointment. why can they not just read the notes instead of taking me back to that horrible time!

leisl sorry you're scan isn't until 14wks. my first scan was 8 weeks and they didn't want to scan again until 14wks and i couldn't wait that long. so we went for a private scan at 12 weeks for reassurance - was the best £100 i ever spent. and also we wanted to tell people at 12 weeks so wanted to make sure everything was ok.

yay for the heartbeat pumpkin!! how many weeks will you be at your scan? exciting! i have the angelsound one too smile

i loved the name george - it was my grandads name and i have it on my list...no longer. but on the upside i had put 50p on it being the name and won 4quid woop woop!!!

JanieLovesLuckySocks Wed 24-Jul-13 22:16:17

ibip i must have a read of it - i've been considering a waterbirth but panicking about pooing in the water - wtf do you do if you shit yourself in a bath?!?!?!?

Evening everyone. Have just got in and calmed down a bit. Apologies for the emotional meltdown earlier you should've seen me earlier on
Tbh pink they are good gps I think, just when it comes to advice in pregnancy they don't seem to be that clued up. When I was newly diagnosed my doc told me to read up on it, so I did and then she said that I knew more than her. That says something eh?

Oh poor you myrtle, what a horrible day. When you go in tomorrow can you talk about getting some real answers to your fears? It's so understandable that this is overwhelming at this time.

liesl that's crap. I'd be annoyed too about those dates. Isn't there a certain window of opportunity for nuchal testing?

janie they fish it out with a sieve they keep on the side!

IBelieveInPink Wed 24-Jul-13 22:21:37

Janie - that is exactly my problem with a waterbirth too! Would like one for the pain relief, but don't want to end up sat in a pool of poo! Apparently they have a little sieve, but what if it is, well, a sloppy poo?! Oh god. Im not ready to face all of this!

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Wed 24-Jul-13 22:32:39

I would love a home water birth. :-(

JanieLovesLuckySocks Wed 24-Jul-13 22:35:03

oh my god a sieve?!?! aah they don't have toilets in the active birthing rooms with the pools so do they just sieve it out like a potato and pop it in the bin?! DH will never love me again! i'm going on an active birthing workshop in september and i hope i can ask this discreetly without other people listening...although i bet everyone wonders! and yes what if it's not so solid?! that thread is bloody funny though - i love how people are so honest, this is why i love MN!!

like a potato <sniggers>

shellsocks Wed 24-Jul-13 23:23:55

Sorry to hear your news myrtle I hope you get some answers soon, this limbo must be awful x

Thanks santa that's good to know, but even more info to bamboozle my tiny brain grin

28313 I don't think so, but you are very welcome to join us, if we can help at all smile I'm very sorry for your loss and best of luck if you are now TTC or have your BFP x

shellsocks Wed 24-Jul-13 23:25:44

Ah pressed to soon confused

So I've written my birth script for the natal hypnotherapy...next step is to get DH to record it over some hypno music?! All sounds a bit woo, but I'm very happy with what I have written and it does make sense...will let you know how DH gets on confusedwink

IBelieveInPink Wed 24-Jul-13 23:37:42

Which book was it you are using for hypnobirthing shell? I want to read about this- cant afford a course, but can manage a book. smile

JanieLovesLuckySocks Wed 24-Jul-13 23:41:17

Nice one shell, I'm reading the mongan book, it's good so far and the cd that cones with it is very relaxing (I keep falling asleep when I listen so must work!). Pink I can't afford a course either so hoping the book and some good research will help.

Starting a 6 week yoga course tmro night, the Tuesday night one I went to before didn't suit so hopefully it'll be good (and I hope I don't get the giggles breathing the vowels through my vajayjay like last time)

IBelieveInPink Thu 25-Jul-13 07:31:33

Ooh Janie - which one? There is more than one on Amazon - Id rather get one that has been recommended smile

V Jels of your yoga course. I can't find one at a time that suits. Maybe I will get a DVD for that.

GardenWorm Thu 25-Jul-13 07:56:30

Myrtle I hope today goes better than you are fearing. What an awful situation to be in. Will be thinking of you xxx

28313 I don't think there are any on this thread after full term still birth but I could be wrong. So very sorry for your loss, it must be terribly difficult. I'm not sure my early mc's would even come close but we are here to help if we can xxx

JanieLovesLuckySocks Thu 25-Jul-13 08:01:03

I got it off eBay (didn't realise there was more than one!) it's called 'hypnobirthing - the mongan method'. It's a little bit American but good so far, just getting to the breathing section so just coming up to being half way through. It's been easy to read so far. I don't think DH believes I could do it but at least ill know how to try and relax and hopefully take the fear out of it so can't be a bad thing even to try. I know it can all change in the day but worth a shot!

Did you ask your midwife if they know of any pg yoga classes? It might be worth looking up on Facebook, gumtree or somewhere like that - I found mine by just ringing a few yoga teachers and asking if they knew any and a few of then were able to recommend teachers that didn't advertise online x

BettyFlutterbly Thu 25-Jul-13 08:14:55

Just thought I'd pop in and say hi. I've been meaning to for so long!
I got a bit lost in work and pregnancy and having a three year old.
Not even sure if any of you will remember me, but I was on the mc thread back in Sept last year.
I am 37+3 today and hoping to meet dd2 sooner rather than later, but whenever she's ready will be fine.
I hope you're all well and your pregnancies are going well (haven't read back through the posts).
I am sure there are a couple of you due soon too. Gary and Anda??

shellsocks Thu 25-Jul-13 08:42:50

Hey pink I got the natal hypnotherapy book and cd by Maggie Howell...it's not American which is why I chose that one janie but I'm not sure whether the actual practical advice will be any different?

I would say that it is quite a lot of work and will be for DH too once I have got a bit further in, you could just do the CD on its own which doesn't involve your DH if you think he won't be interested or if you don't want to devote quite so much time to it, let me know of you want more detail abt the book/CD smile

janie my DH takes the piss when we talk abt it, but defo thinks anything that can help improve things from last time even a little bit is worth a go!

Hi betty wow you are close! Best of luck for the birth, exciting smile

GuffSmuggler Thu 25-Jul-13 08:48:48

Thinking of you today myrtle

liesal that's rubbish about the scan, I'm 8 weeks and still don't have my 12 week appointment so I hope they don't do the same with me, is SUCH a long wait to get to 12 weeks to add another 2 weeks on is just cruel sad

WhatWillSantaBring Thu 25-Jul-13 08:56:08

liesl I had exactly the same concerns. My NT scan wasn't till 13 weeks and I was showing by about 9... So I went for the tactic of asking what the measurement was myself and i always said that if it was less than 2 I would cautiously tell my very close friends. I then decided that I'd give it a week to see if I had a call from the results place - (on the basis that no call = good news, as they call if its not good).

But as it was, my head of dept came in on the Monday and said congratulations, I'd guessed about a month ago. I was bit pissed off to be honest, and it took another 3 months weeks for me to relax about people saying congrats. Lots of tears and stress and feeling totally unreasonable about the whole thing. But you know what? It doesn't matter. Let people gossip if they want to. Its not going to change anything. Just keep ploughing on in your own head space till you feel comfortable telling people. Good luck today though.

I didn't poo - a lot of people say that everyone does but the midwives are v good at clearing it up so you don't notice, but I'm sure I didn't. Just get your DH's to stay at the head end throughout!!

Pentagon Thu 25-Jul-13 09:20:28

28313, I'm so sorry for your loss flowers I don't think anyone on this thread has experienced the same as you but you're more than welcome to join us

myrtle I hope you have some good news today - let us know how you get on

I got this hypnobirthing book when I was last pregnant (plus the CD from a friend): http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hypnobirthing-Breakthrough-Easier-Comfortable-Childbirth/dp/0285637711/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1374737715&sr=1-1&keywords=hypnobirthing

I'm useless when it comes to breathing techniques so I can't say I managed to do that but the book helped me have a positive and calm attitude while in labour which paid off smile

betty of course I remember you! Wow, you are so close now - all the best! Please update us when the baby arrives (when you get the chance, of course!)

As for the royal baby: I like the name George and love Alexander (it's my all-time favourite boys' name) - I didn't make any bets unfortunately

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Thu 25-Jul-13 09:51:42

28313 my sister had a still born daughter at 38 weeks. If you went through this, you have my UTMOST sympathy. I wouldn't wish it in my worst enemy. Xx
If its any help, she now has 2 GORGEOUS daughters.

GaryBuseysTeeth Thu 25-Jul-13 10:52:50

Good luck today Myrtle, hope it's the best possible news. x

Liesel, my 12wk scan was at 13+6 and they still managed to see everything ok, the extra almost two weeks wait was horrible though!

28313, so sorry for your loss...there is a rainbow babies ttc thread & having a quick glance on there, they have a fair few ladies pregnant after late losses, if you've got specific question they might be more knowledgeable? We're a fab, supportive lot if you want to stick around here?

Ey oop Betty!! I remember you, how are you doing?
You all prepared for having another one (very!) soon?

Unwrapped the moses basket this morning, haven't unwrapped the mattress but it's the closest I've come to getting things ready for having a baby...

ChristineDaae Thu 25-Jul-13 11:40:08

Good luck today myrtle!
I hadn't thought if hypnotist thing, I'm a bit sceptical but reviews seem good. I didn't have the best of labours first time round and would like to avoid pain relief at all costs this time so might give it a try.

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Thu 25-Jul-13 11:48:28

Gah! Just sitting in the hospital waiting for DDs appointment, messing with my calendar. Today is THE day. The day I MC last time. sad another milestone reached. I feel a little low now, bizarrely!

woody17 Thu 25-Jul-13 12:19:32

Hello - I don't know if any of you remember me but I was on this thread from when it started last summer after my first pregnancy ended in mc in July. While I was on the thread, I had a second mc in September. I fell pregnant again in October but became a bit worked up about doing anything that I stupidly thought might tempt fate. I couldn't open a pregnancy book, I always had to carry a sanitary towel with me and I left mumsnet. Anyway, it was third time lucky for me and I had a little boy earlier this month. I don't know if it made any difference but I started having acupuncture after the 2nd mc and continued to have it all throughout my pregnancy. Just wanted to wish all of you the very best.

Hi woody, I remember you- but it was from the conception/may 2013 thread. Massive congratulations on the birth of your new son! So sweet of you to come back to spread some hope for those of us who need it.

saggy, don't feel low! Big hug for you- you've already passed the most major milestone with that fantastic scan result and don't forget it.

Thinking of you today myrtle

Congratulations woody very refreshing post & hope you are enjoying your new baby boythanks

GardenWorm Thu 25-Jul-13 14:06:36

I am loving these ladies post birth or near birth popping in to say hello - spreading their posifrickintivity. MAKES ME SMILE smile

andadietcoke Thu 25-Jul-13 14:50:15

Ah woody congratulations! I remember you from the TTC #1 thread I think, and arrived on the TTC after a mc thread just after you'd left my the sounds of things. 33 weeks now - with twins. Did you ever get to the point before your little boy came that you accepted everything would be okay?

andadietcoke Thu 25-Jul-13 14:55:28

And Betty - 37w! Wow! Everyone else's pregnancies seem to have passed in a heartbeat, mine has taken forever.

I'm 33+2 today. Should be induced around 38w so not too long to go either. Can't imagine getting even fatter over the next 5 weeks - I'm mahoosive. 6 more working days to get through then I might need to start sorting stuff out at home.

Good luck with the last few days/weeks, and don't forget to come back and let us know how you got on xx

BumpKitty Thu 25-Jul-13 15:41:16

Hi woody thanks for popping in and huge congratulations. what is your new baby boy called?

Hi betty not long now, have you finished work?

anda 6 days!! That's ace smile I'm so excited for you - I think twins are incredible, I always hoped I'd have them as I have twin cousins on both sides - still there's always time! Enjoy your last few days at work

Thinking of you myrtle

thunder hopefully once you are under the care of a consultant you won't have to faff around convincing GPs to do their jobs! I can understand why you were frustrated with it all.

I had my 25 week GP appt today, I collected my MATB1 for work so it all seems a bit closer now smile the GP found the heartbeat in 2 seconds which was nice after all the excruciating waits I've had in the past.

Nice vibe in here this afternoon or is it just me pretending to be being a bit calmer?

25 weeks bump, it's all getting rather exciting eh? Do you know what flavour you're having?

anda 6 day countdown- must be really exciting too. Is being mahoosive causing you any physical discomfort?

I just got put onto the system for consultant care and made an early booking in appointment at 7 weeks. I'm not excited about booking in, just want to be looked after properly by a real expert!

JanieLovesLuckySocks Thu 25-Jul-13 17:32:02

Oooooh another real baby!!! Congrats woody!! Lovely to hear from you smile

And Betty you're so close! How exciting!!!

Oh I was wondering about the matb firm yesterday as I want to give it to my boss ASAP. Got my 25wk appointment in 2wks so will hold off til then eek!

Glad you're getting looked after properly now thunder, fx for smooth and boring from here on in smile

Anda I'm soooooo jealous of your 6 more days!!

28313 Thu 25-Jul-13 18:26:42

Thanks for the lovely comments. I did lose my son full term in March. I am currently just shy of 5 weeks pregnant & facing another very tough 8 months with lots of monitoring & medication.

andadietcoke Thu 25-Jul-13 18:46:46

28313 I'm so very sorry for your loss; I can't begin to imagine how tough this is for you. Were they able to pinpoint anything that they'll be able to keep an eye out for?

I'm sure you will get the best care imaginable. Take it one day at a time, then one week at a time. I'm sure time will pass horrendously slowly, but you'll get there. Take care xx

28313 Thu 25-Jul-13 18:51:58

Yes, they know the placenta was the cause as it was 2/3 the size it should have been with 30% of it having died.

I expect to be in hospital almost every day in my final trimester.

shellsocks Thu 25-Jul-13 19:10:34

christine I'm in the same position as you re hypno birthing...quite sceptical but in for a penny and all that after last time! I too want to avoid the drugs smile

Lovely to hear from you woody congrats on the birth of your son smile

anda I know it wasn't a twin PG but my growth with DS slowed right down around now for you, was 8cm ahead at 30w but only finished up 2cm ahead by the time he was born smile

28312 I am so very sorry for your loss and glad that you will be having such close attention this time round. I don't have any knowledge but would hope that the fact they know in advance abt the placenta and can monitor you daily will be a comfort to you. As anda said I can't imagine how tough this will be, but between us here we have helped each other through all our worries and fears and will be here for you too, best of luck xxx

BumpKitty Thu 25-Jul-13 19:28:48

thunder another little girl as I suspected (they weren't that sure though!). DD is very excited! Booking in isn't much fun but I'm glad they'll be looking after you properly smile

28313 i'm so sorry about your baby, I'm sure they will really look after you this time. I'm glad you found us.

janie it's a bit weird with the MatB1 form, my work has to be officially notified that I am pregnant the 15th week before I am due (i.e. 25 weeks!) but the GP won't give you the form till you are 25 weeks - not much room for manouevre there.

the doctor also prescribed me a steroid cream as I have ezcema on my feet (i thought it was athlete's foot but apparently not). Now I have read up about it the advice is don't use in pg unless essential, I think I'll just put up with manky feet!

Rockchick1984 Thu 25-Jul-13 19:47:11

Bumpkitty I get eczema on the soles of my feet and around my toes <<gross>> but can generally control it with burt's bees nappy cream applied a couple of times a day, and using a foot exfoliator in the shower smile

12 week scan is on Aug 22nd, have got another scan on Monday so that's next target for everything being ok, hopefully!!

BumpKitty Thu 25-Jul-13 21:15:52

ooh thanks rockchick the doc did say to keep them moisturised so I'll try some of DD's cream

Pentagon Thu 25-Jul-13 21:18:09

28313 congratulations on your pregnancy! I'm sure you will get better care this time and I hope you are feeling strong. I can't even begin to imagine what you've been through but this is a lovely thread and we will support you in any way we can.

bump what's your due date? Mine is Oct.28th - I had my 25-week appointment last Friday so we shouldn't be too far off. Ha, I also have some type of ezcema on my left foot and was prescribed a steroid cream but I'm putting off using it till after I give birth. Thanks for the tip rock I'll give it try! Not long till Monday, I hope you're not feeling too anxious!

anda, 6 days only? I'm so jealous!

woody so nice to hear from you, thanks for sharing your good news and congratulations on your baby boy!

BumpKitty Thu 25-Jul-13 23:08:50

hi pentagon 9th Nov (i'm 25 weeks on Saturday). How funny that we've all got foot rot! I have had mine before but this is the worst ever - I'm not sure if its the pg or just the heat. Hopefully I'll breast feed DD2 so I will probably have to not have the steroid cream for some time. ho hum

Chocolateteabag Thu 25-Jul-13 23:38:59

Hi 28313 - so sorry for your little boy - hope you get lots of extra care this time. At least you have a reason which they can now monitor, not that really helps I guess. But this is a good place to vent and unleash the worries

Bump - I have dreadful eczema and still use my strong steroid cream when I have to. But I'd also suggest trying some Vagisil grin the lidocaine in it helps take the edge off the itching

IBelieveInPink Fri 26-Jul-13 08:53:11

Morning all. Lovely to see a couple of old faces checking in! Very exciting to hear nice news!

Thanks for the advice on hypnobirthing, will find one and give it a go. Can't hurt can it!

Speaking of hurting - anyone else have an 'ache' at the top inside of legs? Almost at foo, but feels a bit deeper than that? Is this SPD?

JanieLovesLuckySocks Fri 26-Jul-13 09:01:02

28313 i'm so sorry for the terrible sadness you have had to go through. i echo everything that the other ladies have said in that this is the place to be for hand holding and venting. fx for you x

pink my pain is on the outer side of my thighs at the top. only seem to get it in bed when lying down then it gradually vanishes during the morning sad

i started my pg yoga last night - it was good, not as foof breathing as the last one i went to - i think maybe breathing through your bits and bobs comes later in pg! the teacher is very interested in hypnobirthing and said she would email some info so if it's any good i'll pm it to you.

not sure if it was because i was pretty relaxed afterwards but i couldn't get to sleep until about 1am as my wee baby was breakdancing non stop like a mad thing for about an hour! i kept giggling (dh kept telling me to shh oops)

off to SIL wedding today, should be a nice day smile happy friday everyone xxx

Hiya. Im currently 10 weeks pregnant after a mmc 2 years ago. I started bleeding at just before 10 weeks last time so im a bit twitchy.

I had my own thread about scans last week and got lots of helpful advice. I did have a scan a 8+6 and all was fine. I was good for about a week but im getting myself worried again now!

Yesterday i had a bit of a bad day at work. They are messing me about a lot and its just making me low and stressed. I veer from total positivity to total panic which i can see from reading here is entirely normal smile.

Anyway, just thought id check in. I was too scared to earlier but im hoping for the best now iv actually got to 10 weeks grin

Good luck to everyone and my thoughts are with all those who have had bad news xxx

IBelieveInPink Fri 26-Jul-13 10:46:07

Janie - yoga sounds great! That's it, I'm getting myself a DVD.

Piffy - congratulations and welcome aboard!

andadietcoke Fri 26-Jul-13 12:50:58

ibip I had this but it didn't get any worse and has just come and go. Have you got yourself a pregnancy pillow? Mine gets worse if I have a night or two off it.

IBelieveInPink Fri 26-Jul-13 14:57:26

Ahh that could be it diet, thanks. I have a pillow, but it has been so hot recently I keep kicking it out of bed! Will make an effort to keep it there smile thanks!

Hello all, hope you're having a good Friday- nearly the weekend!

Quick question- anyone get the squits early on? Last few days now I get it quite bad straight after eating, whilst feeling a bit sick throughout. Is this a bug or is it pg hormones?! It's not very cool whilst at work!

IBelieveInPink Fri 26-Jul-13 16:36:53

Thunder - yep! I had that. Really bad between 6-9 weeks, got a little better, now seems to be a regular occurance since about 15 weeks. Lush.
However- check out your big fat pregnancy symptom! Yay!

JBrd Fri 26-Jul-13 16:56:27

I have all sorts of tummy troubles, it seems to go from being really constipated to, well, not at all confused

I've had a really sore back all afternoon, so bad that I contemplated taking a paracetamol. It's eased off again now, but I'm hoping that it's not anything sinister... Backache featured very prominently in both my mcs.
On the other hand, it could be a big fat pregnancy symptom, right?!

Too right jbrd! All sound quite classic to me. Last time I was hungry all the time, this time I don't want to eat at all. Weird.

Thanks pink!

Chocolateteabag Fri 26-Jul-13 17:03:59

Hi Piffy - congratulations on reaching 10 weeks, you are in right place for twitchy panics

IBIP - I have worsening pains right in my pubic bone and up in my pelvis underneath. I have a Serola support belt which is helping and MW has referred me to a Physio (but also been told that I'll be better off paying to see a pregnancy trained chiropractor) There are a few threads on here on other things you can try & to avoid (walking for example grin)

So had my 20W scan this afternoon and all is well. DS's prediction that it's a girl is..... wrong! very clearly saw that he's all boy.
Feel awful saying this but I felt a tiny pang of disappointment - but really only because I can't buy girls stuff now - how sad is that?
<<stands back and waits for the Fish slap I now deserve>>

GuffSmuggler Fri 26-Jul-13 19:08:11

thunder I had rather erm 'loose' bowels for most my last PG blush Not too bad this time but it definitely affects your digestion understandably.

chocolate great news the scan went well. It's understandable you have a pang of what isn't to be, but you're little boy will be perfect and you won't be able to imagine your family any other way. I have a DS and am fully expecting another DS as DH's family line are all boys and I'm sure I'll have a little pang of 'oh well' but then realise it will be our perfect family whatever happens.

I just wondered if any of you could advise when to chase for my 12 week scan? I'll be 9 weeks on tues and after my good 7 week scan I'm feeling really anxious again and want to know when my next one will be...

IBelieveInPink Fri 26-Jul-13 20:16:41

Chocolate - brilliant news that your scan went well! So pleased smile
Of course is understandable to have a pang, no fish slap for you. But it Doesn't mean you will love another baby boy any less. Have these flowers

Guff - if it was me, I would chase. I like to have dates set, although I know everyone's hospitals do things at different times, maybe if they can't tell you, they can tell you when to expect to find out, and that can be your next thing to look forward to if you see what I mean?

Congratulations chocsmile glad all is well and don't be guilty it's just a normal reaction which won't last too long x

shellsocks Fri 26-Jul-13 20:50:12

pink it prob isn't SPD and just normal PG aches but physio said the pillow is v important and try walking with your legs a bit apart (waddle grin) and stand up with your legs together, so swing them out from your chair and then stand up if you know what I mean?! I do lots of other exercises and have to wear supports but hopefully you wont need any of that...and like choc says mention it to your MW if it gets worse, the earlier you can get help the better smile

Welcome piffy congrats on your BFP smile

choc congrats on your scan and another DS grin I have one DS and am 95% sure this will be too (DHs family don't do girls grin) don't beat yourself up on feeling a pang of regret....even after my MMC I really wanted DS to be a girl up until I had the 20w scan when luckily I just became so excited to be having a boy and never looked back...you can't help your natural reaction x

GardenWorm Fri 26-Jul-13 20:57:24

Fab Choc, sorry didn't realise it was your scan today until I read your post otherwise I would have wished you good luck. I take it there is no doubting when it's a boy? We didn't find out but I did say to DH I didn't notice any dangly bits - are they that obvious or is it just your genes? Lol! I'm convinced this one is a girl too and am worried if they pop out with dangly bits how strange it will be....but really, let's face it, when we pop we just won't care what flavour our babies are so long as they are safe and well X

ChristineDaae Fri 26-Jul-13 20:57:38

Congrats on a little boy choc!
Can I ask a really really stupid question?
Last week I could feel my uterus just a little bit above public bone, I just lay down on the couch and its literally at my belly button. Is that normal? I'm only 14 weeks. I'm pretty sure it was around this high at about 20weeks with DD?

ChristineDaae Fri 26-Jul-13 21:04:17

God I'm a idiot just ignore me! Got so concerned with my belly, I forgot I was bursting for a pee! It's all back where it should be now. Panic overblush

shellsocks Fri 26-Jul-13 21:16:03

Have we heard from gary btw in the last coupla days?

GaryBuseysTeeth Fri 26-Jul-13 21:27:29

Welcome & congrats piffy!

Hurrah for scan chocolate, I felt the same...as I was expecting a girl ('felt' like a girl) it was a bit eh!? to find I was having another boy!
Doesn't help that John Lewis have some gorgeous dresses in atm as seen here envy

Guff, I'd give them a call, just so they're aware you've not got a date yet.

Christine grin glad everything is ok.

Talking of pee, I dunno if my waters just went or I'm incontinent. I couldn't control it & it doesn't smell like wee! Having mild back cramps too (have been all day) so fingers crossed this is it, and not another false alarm
In fact, it probably is it, as our closest DS-sitter is out on the razz tonight & not fit to drive over.
Will keep you all updated!

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Fri 26-Jul-13 21:53:09

OOOHHHHHH! Thread baby! grin

shellsocks Fri 26-Jul-13 22:03:10

Oooooo gary grin. I know you prob know all this but stick a pad on and lie down for half an hour if water comes out when you stand up then yep they've broken!

When do you ring the hospital for subsequent babies? I can imagine not bothering for ages, unlike first time when you're never off the phone!

Good luck smile

GaryBuseysTeeth Fri 26-Jul-13 22:09:05

Wearing a pad now, DH is on his way home (via McDonalds).
Will go lie down & see what happens when I stand up grin

GardenWorm Fri 26-Jul-13 22:14:27

Eeeek Gary!!!! Get sniffing that pad! Lol! Always found that bit minging (could not be a midwife sniffing like that!). Make sure you speak to someone though if it seems nowt is happening as they need to check whether it was your waters....but I reckon you already know that and I'm just getting EXCITED for you grin

GuffSmuggler Fri 26-Jul-13 22:15:34

Ooooo exciting Gary!

That's what happened with my waters last time, I thought I kept weeing myself in the night but then I realised!! Sometimes it isn't a big gush and just trickles...

GardenWorm Fri 26-Jul-13 22:20:01

Mine was a trickle too. Got up in the night for a wee, got back into bed and felt like id wee'd myself again but new i hadnt! If it doesn't smell like wee then it isn't!

Gutted I'm totally sleep deprived due to a quick shift change over last night or I'd stay up for progress smile

ChristineDaae Fri 26-Jul-13 22:46:18

Ohhhh Gary how exciting!!!!

Oooh Gary how exciting eeeksmile
You could have a baby soon!
My waters went in the night with dd and kept going every time i got up from laying down, and like others say the smell will be different to wee!
You could be a mummy by tomorrow, so excitingsmile

shellsocks Fri 26-Jul-13 22:57:24

Ha ha loving the maccies run gary grin

Keep us posted if you are up to it, I'm so excited for you smile

Pentagon Fri 26-Jul-13 23:51:26

piffy welcome and congratulations! 10 weeks - you're nearly there!

choc congratulations on your scan! No fish slap, I understand how you felt, I thought I was carrying a boy this time so when the sonographer said girl I was like "eh?". It's just the first shock, I am sure you are delighted now.

myrtle are you OK? We haven't heard from you at all

gary how exciting! This may be it - if yes, all the best! x

BlackholesAndRevelations Sat 27-Jul-13 00:44:45

Eeeeek Gary! grin good luck!! Hope this is it and you're a mum again very very soon!

GaryBuseysTeeth Sat 27-Jul-13 01:24:40

I think you can all relax/sleep. Naff all happening now confused
Still have the back pains but nothing else, although having a rummage downstairs it feels like I've had some sort of prolapse (there's a bit sticking out that wasn't there earlier) so maybe that caused the leakage? blush

Pad doesn't smell like wee...although I am hoping for a sneeze birth in the next few hours, one of DH's workmates called me a 'drama queen' over this pee/waters confusion (because I've gone in twice with reduced movements & was having irregular BH on Monday night when DH was at work). Blardy Codpiece of a man.

Pentagon, myrtle hasn't posted since Thurs so hope she's ok.

BlackholesAndRevelations Sat 27-Jul-13 06:52:18

Gary- I was told to lie on left side for half an hour, and then stand up. If there's a rush of liquid when you stand up, it's your waters as they pool when you're lying down. If they have gone you obviously need to go in to be checked! Ignore codpieces of men. Leaking/reduced waters can be dangerous and need to be looked at x

GardenWorm Sat 27-Jul-13 06:53:32

Ha ha ha Gary as I was reading and visualising I actually had an image of you walking downstairs and rummaging in some draws until I realised!

That bloke is a knob jockey.

You should still go and get checked out, ignore him, what the hell does he know? (Like to see him try to squeeze an orange out of his....!)

IBelieveInPink Sat 27-Jul-13 08:13:03

Gary - I did hear the other day (I never knew this before) apparently there can be two sets of waters, front waters and back waters?! Maybe one has gone and not the other?
I have no idea what this is btw, I thought there was only one! But dr google confirms....

GuffSmuggler Sat 27-Jul-13 08:56:50

Thanks for the advice people, so I'm going to chase up my 12 week scan Monday but who do I call - GP, EPU, Midwife??

Hope you had a restful nights sleep gary if things aren't kicking off yet.

Chocolateteabag Sat 27-Jul-13 09:35:34

Guff - call the EPU directly as either they'll have you on their records or you can get booked in directly as you have your notes (DO NOT forget them! - I did and they refused to scan me and had to rebook)

Gary - yes you have two sets of waters, can go at different times or together depending on position of baby, placenta etc. I would ring your labour ward and let them know as sometimes they don't like it if labour doesn't start within a certain time after waters have gone, esp as your plug sounds to have gone too.

Garden - def a boy - it was a super clear scan and even I could see his bits. Was such an improved scan machine even from 3 years ago, was impressed with the NHS. Forgot to say it was the snotty scanner who refused to do my 12 week scan last time without notes. She did a good job of pretending not to remember us, we decided best to play along and not give game away. She was therefore super nice and gave us free scan pics grin

shellsocks Sat 27-Jul-13 10:01:02

Oh no gary sounds like this ones gonna mess you abt hmm Hope you got some good rest last night and enjoyed your maccies....you're gonna end up going thru the menu if this drags on for ages! wink

GaryBuseysTeeth Sat 27-Jul-13 10:26:21

Hurrah for free scan pics Garden, lolz at her pretending not to remember you.

Guff, call Midwives office & if they can't help you they should have the number for the sonography (sp?) department.

Back from hospital, went to triage & they were fabulous.
They can't say 100% it wasn't waters but it wasn't wee (so only other option is discharge?), they scanned me to check water levels were ok around baby & I've got to go back in on Monday for a repeat scan to see if water levels are still good!
Until then taking it easy (back ache getting worse but not painful yet) & knicker checking constantly.

DH smelt my knickers from earlier, he says it's not wee. Tempted to let him bring them into work for TC (total codpiece) to smell.

Hope everyone has a good weekend!

JanieLovesLuckySocks Sat 27-Jul-13 10:35:22

oooh Gary this is exciting!! got everything crossed things aren't delayed too long! don't think DH would wan to smell my knickers ha!! i could murder a big mac now!

Choc - brilliant scan news!! and a little blue one! yay!!!

guff i'd say call midwife and see if they can confirm things for you. limbo can be stressful so at least they may be able to advise when you'll know\

had a lovely day at SIL wedding yesterday, managed to stay out until midnight oooh! one of DHs aunties said she definitely thought i was beginning to look pregnant now which made me feel nice, instead of fat! smile

IBelieveInPink Sat 27-Jul-13 10:57:42

"DH smelt my knickers"
In any other place this would be a weird sentence. Here, it means true love and support.
I love this thread.

maybemyrtle Sat 27-Jul-13 12:18:12

Gary - lol @ "dh smelt my knichers"! Brilliant. How exciting - nearly there now!! grin

Hope everyone's having a good weekend?

Thanks so much for all of your well wishes on Thursday. Just to update: I was released from hospital last night (Friday), lap went fine apart from slight complications so I was kept in overnight. Good news is that both tubes fine and healthy and no ectopic detected. Officially "pregnancy of unknown location" but consultant suggested possible twins in uterus(?!?!) and the on call surgeon came in on Friday morning and said he hoped that all goes well with "the baby", so god knows tbh. These 2 comments balanced by the gynae surgeon and other dr who made no suggestion of a viable pregnancy. Seems like I had everyone available in theatre at some point, I was very well looked after! Back for a scan and more bloods on Thursday so the rollercoaster continues! smile

Rockchick1984 Sat 27-Jul-13 12:46:50

Oooh Gary not long to go!!! I thought my waters had gone with DS but it wasn't - apparently it was just heavy discharge (I knew it didn't smell like wee but had no idea what waters smelled like) and it was about a week after that when I went into labour.

Myrtle so glad it's not ectopic, keeping everything crossed for you on Thursday. How far along are you?

Guff my 12 week scan app only arrived on Thursday for 22nd Aug so hopefully yours will be around the same time.

Felt like death yesterday - so nauseous and shattered (I dozed off twice on the couch) but a lot better today. Had the same happen a week or 2 ago so presuming its a hormone surge, and that it means baby Pebble is growing nicely. Terrified about Monday's scan but at the same time feel like its going to be ok - hope that confidence doesn't come back to bite me blush

GardenWorm Sat 27-Jul-13 14:05:59

Jeeze Myrtle talk about putting you through the ringer! You sound admirably strong, sending you lots of posifrickintivity to give you a boost. Fingers and toes crossed xxxx

Gary did they say what the 'downstairs rummage' anomaly was about????

23 weeks and this bump is the size I was at 7/8 months with DD - she had to be hoovered out and a cut. I am worried for my undercarriage! Lol!

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Sat 27-Jul-13 14:38:12

Gary I hope your waiting is over soon!
Myrtle I'm glad you aren't ectopic, I hope they get to the bottom of it eventually. X
We are en route to Cumbria. DP is driving, I went all faint and wobbly after an hour and a half at the wheel! I couldn't feel my hands! confused

Not long hopefully gary, dh smelt your knickersgrin, and showing them to codpiecegringringrin really had me chuckling!

Went for my 17wk scan today at ultrababy, we are having a little girlsmile dh will truly be outnumbered now grin ha ha! Got some lovely scan picture and a heartbeat bear, baby is all healthy with all things in the right places and i'm so relieved to have seen baby again and so happy to know the flavour extra early smile
Went out and bought a pink little dress and now more optimistic than ever that everything should be ok, but i don't think panic stations will be over completely until baby is here in jan!

GuffSmuggler Sat 27-Jul-13 18:56:36

ooo how lovely pumkin! That's great news. How many girls do you have already?

Sorry you have more waiting myrtle, I found that one of the hardest things about my MC, the waiting and not knowing. I really hope you know what's going on very soon.

Have fun in cumbria saggy, I felt really out of it and tired today, we are delicate PG women - I hope you had a snooze whilst DH drove grin

We've got rain, is so lovely and refreshing!

LuckySocks13 Sat 27-Jul-13 19:26:17

Hi all. I wrote a huge post the other night then phone went flat and I lost it angry
28313 i'm so very sorry to read of the loss of your little boy. Sending you love and strength. May he rest in peace.

Am feeling right fed up this week! Watch out here comes a moan zone! On Thursday morning I had some more bright red spotting. Seems to keep cropping up every so often. Just when I begin to relax I'm back on knicker check. To top it off it was our 5th Wedding Anniversary on Thursday and husband totally forgot along with everyone else in my family. I have felt so low I havn't even bothered to tell him about the spotting. He then went out with his work mates last night and then slept all morning today whilst I entertained DS. Moan over!

So anyway am 23 weeks today smile so trying to get some positivinfrigity back. Chuck a wet fish at me someone! I have had to sit down today and work out when I'm likely to finish work as they want to know in the next 2 weeks. Nice but scary to think that far ahead!

JanieLovesLuckySocks Sat 27-Jul-13 20:20:00

hey lucky, happy joint 23 weeks. and happy anniversary. shame on DH for forgetting, i hope he did something nice to make up for it? and sorry for the worry and spotting,

myrtle sorry you're still in limbo, sounds like you are getting the best possible care though x

i'm in such a bad temper today, feels like a superbad pmt, our house is just so messy and i have no energy to tidy it. i am tempted to pay a cleaner. i so want a bath tonight but just can't be arsed cleaning the bathroom first. thought chocolate might fix it but no joy. maybe i need some ryan gosling movies. haven't felt this hormonal ever

DIYandEatCake Sat 27-Jul-13 23:20:30

So much news! Really pleased the scan went well pumpkin, and that you're not dealing with an ectopic myrtle - though it sounds like a real ordeal. Hope you get some answers soon. Fwiw they suspected ectopic when I miscarried, to cut a long story short what the sonographer reported as just a 'clot' at the first scan turned out to be a sac but attached really low down. I really feel for you, I remember the stress and uncertainty all too well.
Very warm welcome 28313, wishing you all the luck in the world.
lucky do they know the reason for the spotting yet? Hope it goes soon and your oh bucks up his ideas.
Joining the grumpy ranks today, have a very painful infection round a wisdom tooth and have given in and started taking antibiotics as the side of my face was puffing up like a hamster, and I've hardly slept for 3 days thanks to the pain. Hate taking anything more than paracetamol but I think needs must in this case.
chocolate congrats on your scan too, I had quite mixed emotions when they said 'boy' at the scan (had always just imagined girls somehow!) but thinking logically boy or girl is just a small part of who our babies will turn out to be.

BlackholesAndRevelations Sun 28-Jul-13 10:39:58

Welcome 28313, so sorry to hear about your son and wish you all the luck in the world for this one xxx

Congrats on the scan, pumpkin!

Welcome 28313, so sorry to hear you lost your baby boy. I cannot imagine the heartache you did and are still going through, must be so hardsad
I wish you all the best with this baby and hope you have a problem free pregnancy & birth with a beautiful baby at the end xxx

Thankyou everyone, so glad all was ok yesterday aswell as the plus side of finding out babas flavoursmile
I have 4 girlies, this baba will be no5!
Already getting sarcy comments of ils about the name choice and the fact it's "another girl"confused, if only they knew of my mc heartache they would realise their words are hard to take!
I'm happy my baby is healthy & each of my girls are different with individual personalities which are not completely to defined to the word "another girl"confused. Makes me so angry they can't be happy with gc

BlackholesAndRevelations Sun 28-Jul-13 12:05:13

What's the name, pumpkin? Did you say saffron? I think that's beautiful! Your dh will have a whale of a time surrounded by all his women! How much fun. Ignore the stupid ils xxx

GaryBuseysTeeth Sun 28-Jul-13 12:37:45

Myrtle, I hope this week passes by quickly for you. So very glad it's not an ectopic & sending you the best possible vibes for Thursday. What a rollercoster you've been sent on. x

Rock, I think it may've just been heavy, wet discharge/plug stuff as I've had no further plug loss since it went.
Throwing myself into planning lots for the next few weeks, tempted to book a weekend away somewhere (pref. inaccessible to ambulance & away from mobile phone reception) just to get things moving. grin

Good luck for your scan tomorrow Rock!

pumpkin, congratulations on a good scan & buying a pink dress for her!

Saggy, have a lovely time, hope you're feeling less wobbly.

Lucky, sorry for the spotting & DH forgetting your anniversary, hope he's making up for it!

DIY, ouch! Wisdom tooth pain doesn't sound fun, esp. when you're allowed so little in the way of drugs atm, hope it calms down for you soon.

Janie, how are you feeling? Hope you've managed a bath (and some extra chocolate)

Hope everyone has a lovely rest of the weekend, it's been breezy today...makes a change from muggy!

I hope for the bestest possible outcome for you murtle hope thurs comes around speedily for you x

Blackholes we are calling her Sapphire, when they saw the name on fb they thought they read it wrong and said are we sure we are calling her thatgrin and asked what middle names we had chosen to go with "this other girl"confused, i told dh to tell her middle names are under wraps for now !

Pentagon Sun 28-Jul-13 17:35:14

hi everyone, hope you're having a good Sunday! I'm spending the day tidying up (we're having our loft converted and the house is a right mess) after feeling really down yesterday and doing nothing at all...

myrtle good news that's it's not ectopic but sorry you're still in limbo. I hope the next appointment gives you some answers.

pumpkin congratz on your scan! "Sapphire" is such a beautiful name!

gary I had something similar last time after my first sweep (I had 2, the second triggered my labour or maybe it was just a coincidence) - I had to go to hospital and be monitored for half a day. They concluded it wasn't amniotic fuild, just discharge which was a big relief, I was so worried about losing amniotic fluid slowly and potential infections...

Happy anniversary lucky - shame your DH forgot and I'm sorry you had to deal with the extra worry of bleeding...I hope you're feeling a bit better today!

Janie I hope you get to have your bath tonight! Plus a ryan gosling film which should definitely cheer you up wink

garden my bump is also bigger than last time and several people comment on it (like they're experts or sth - grrrr!) but when the midwife measured me last week she said I was OK for my dates...strange!

Enjoy Cumbria saggy! DIY I hope the antibiotics have helped with the tooth pain!

rock good luck with your scan tomorrow!

BlackholesAndRevelations Sun 28-Jul-13 19:26:58

Myrtle I hope you're ok- I too am glad it's not ectopic but sorry you're still having to wait for answers. All the best xxx

Pumpkn- sapphire is beautiful too! I'd love to know YOIR other girls' names but obviously that'd give you away!

I don't know why but I'm pretty sure I'm carrying a boy, and am still totally racking my brains for names!

omri Mon 29-Jul-13 00:39:25

Hello ladies - i've been lurking (that sounds creepy - i've just been following everone's news really) but havent been on this thread yet! soooo... if you remember from the previous link, my DP is away and i still havent told him our happy bfp news yet. He is with his family and i know he wouldnt be able to keep the news to himself. I really dont want them all knowing yet so will wait til he is home to tell him in person.
heehee!
feeling exhausted at the moment and quite nauseous in the mornings - im thrilled!!! the symptoms give me more confidence that i will meet this little beany baby in march 2014 smile

ugh hate sunday nights - a whole week of work ahead with all those jerks (there are a lot of them in my place).... hopefully i'll be on mat leave in 7 months!! positivity - thats what this thread is all about right??

Rockchick1984 Mon 29-Jul-13 07:52:06

Hi all, please can you spare any posifrikintivity sprinkles over this way? Another early scan today and I'm so scared - am 8+4 and things went wrong at 8 weeks last time (although didn't know until 12 week scan) and I'm literally making myself feel sick I'm so scared in case things have gone wrong again. Been up all night with bad dreams about bad news again sad

BumpKitty Mon 29-Jul-13 07:57:40

rockchick good luck for today, the bad thoughts are perfectly normal and don't mean anything. I have everything crossed for you xx

JanieLovesLuckySocks Mon 29-Jul-13 08:15:49

Hey rock, sending every ounce of posifrickintivity your way today, dreams are horrible but not reality. Got everything crossed for you xxx

Omri you are the best secret keeper ever! When does he get back?

Still never had my bath boohoo, DH said he'd clean the bathroom tonight so fx for a relaxing night. Boo to work but yay to having a short week smile I've booked half day in thurs and off Friday yippee!

BlackholesAndRevelations Mon 29-Jul-13 08:25:52

Good luck rock xxx

GardenWorm Mon 29-Jul-13 08:32:37

Good luck today Rock, what time is your scan? X

WhatWillSantaBring Mon 29-Jul-13 09:03:22

Good luck rock - the waiting is horrible and there is no way around it at all. You just have to steal yourself to survive the next few hours and know that the waiting will be over very soon.

Absolutely shattered at the moment - spent both afternoons this weekend crashed on the sofa, after not particularly busy mornings. I don't remember the exhaustion lasting this long with DC1 (I'm 18 weeks) and as I'm normally really active, I'm finding it a real struggle (not to mention the working f/t, dog and toddler that take up 98% of my energy on a good day anyway!!). My iron levels were fine two weeks ago, so goodness knows why I'm this tired.

gary - sorry that you're still waiting... its the not knowing when they're going to show up that is so frustrating, I found! Fingers crossed you'll get to hold your baby very very soon though and then we can have a thread baby grin.

Right, onwards and upwards with Mondays...

GaryBuseysTeeth Mon 29-Jul-13 09:27:53

Good luck today rock!

omri, well done on keeping the secret this long...although the danger is you'll get so used to DP not knowing you forget to tell him & he spends the next 7 months thinking 'cor, she's let herself go' grin
Hurrah for your symptoms, sorry you work with so many jerks.

Scan this afternoon to double check it wasn't my waters, glad I'm going in as I've not felt him move today at all. Never going to be able to drink coke again.

omri Mon 29-Jul-13 10:06:33

Lol Gary I actually had that thought I might be so excited to have him home I forget to tell him the news! Especially as its old news for me now!
Janie he's coming home on Saturday - excitement is an understatement.

Rock chick- hope everything goes well, I'm sure it will. Try not to listen to the negative thoughts. Think about the nurse showing you that strong beating heart. smile Let us know how you get on. Hugs

Rockchick1984 Mon 29-Jul-13 10:10:34

TODAY I AM PREGNANT!!!!!!!!

Scan was amazing, Pebble was wriggling around, super strong heartbeat, and measuring 2 days ahead. Next one is 12 week scan on 22nd, but am past the point of miscarriage last time so feeling much more positive. Thankyou all for your kind words xxxxx

Pentagon Mon 29-Jul-13 10:15:41

yay!! Great news Rock, so happy for you!

omri well done on managing to keep it a secret! Your DH will be so excited to be back on Saturday and your announcement will make it super special!

Good luck with the scan this afternoon Gary!

GardenWorm Mon 29-Jul-13 10:53:27

Awesome news Rock! Fab you didn't have to wait all day grin

Omri you are a secret keeper and a half! I hope DH's relative is ok? (sorry can't remember who he had gone to see), what exciting news for him to come home to x

Gary little one is probably taking advantage of no excitement/activity and chilling out! X

omri Mon 29-Jul-13 11:04:40

Rock chick- soooo happy to hear that!! Great start to the week.

Yes garden worm- dp's mom has cancer so he is spending few weeks there with her. She's a strong lady I'm sure shell pull through.

IBelieveInPink Mon 29-Jul-13 11:07:30

Rock - fab news! Sorry I didn't get here in time this morning to wish you luck - but you didn't need it! I had a scan this time at almost exactly the same point - after previous mc points etc, and it helped so much. So pleased for you.

Gary - hope alls okay at the scan today. If you are worried can you call them so they see you earlier?

Tiredness has hit me today! I thought 2nd trimester was supposed to be full of energy - I can hardly move! Bump has had a growth spurt too, I'm enormous. How I have another 3.5 months of growing to do, I don't know!

ChristineDaae Mon 29-Jul-13 11:34:57

Rock - so happy all went well at your scan!!
Gary I'm sure baby is just chilling out, movement drops a bit towards the end anyway doesn't it as there's not much space? What time is your scan?

WhatWillSantaBring Mon 29-Jul-13 11:46:33

gary - I'd go straight in now, don't wait for your appointment. Although everything WILL be fine, I don't think its worth any risk at all and a lack of movements should always send you straight in to your hospital, which should have a day assessment unit that you can self refer to.

shellsocks Mon 29-Jul-13 12:00:29

My bump is so much smaller than last time pentagon, I can't believe it as I was expecting to be absolutely huge grin

omri your DH is going to be so happy! And I'm pleased you're getting some good symptoms smile

Im shattered too santa been called back to GP tomorrow after my blood tests so think ill be on the iron, hope it does the trick!

Hey gary let us know how you get on smile

Congrats rock fab news, you must be so relieved grin

Well I will hit the third trimester on Wed, another milestone passed smile Times flying!

GuffSmuggler Mon 29-Jul-13 13:28:46

Yay rock that's FAB news grin

Bit envy at your second scan already, I'm getting very twitchy for my next one. Have chased up the midwife about my 12 week scan and the stupid GP has forgotten to send my referral angry so I've left a message with the surgery to please send it ASAP. I hope this doesn't delay things. I might have pay for a private scan at this rate but trying to be calm and positive.

Hope all goes well today gary.

BlackholesAndRevelations Mon 29-Jul-13 16:44:33

Hope all is well Gary! Xxx

Lieslvontrapp Mon 29-Jul-13 17:14:40

Great scan news rock!

Well done on your secret omni! Don't know how you've managed it!

Good luck with the scan gary!

Well I'm feeling sorry for myself today as been off work with a cold and sore throat. Not being able to take proper medication doesn't help.

DIYandEatCake Mon 29-Jul-13 17:32:59

Hope all's ok gary - hugs.
Great news rock!
omri your oh is going to be so chuffed - and what a good time for some good news for him and his family too.
liesl hope you feel better soon.
Well wisdom tooth finally improving with the antibiotics, such a relief as have been in too much pain to sleep much.

JanieLovesLuckySocks Mon 29-Jul-13 17:55:34

yay rock!!! great scan news smile

gary - sorry things aren't happening but it won't be long now! can't wait for another thread baby eek!!

guff sorry they're being assholes. hope you get your scan date soon x

santa i've been totally knackered the last few days as well, afternoon naps are my new thing!

so i emailed my boss today to find out about my maternity pay (he's a bit dodgy so was getting pretty stressed about it all) and he said he'd give me more than the SMP! quite shocked!! bt very relieved as was panicking about getting through winter with heating bills etc!

GaryBuseysTeeth Mon 29-Jul-13 18:06:21

Great news rock.

Gary Jr shouldn't be too long now, they're going to start induction because my fluid is low (in your face Totatl CodPiece) & the reduced movements again...so will update (or get DH to do it) once everything kicks off!

Hurrah for more money than SMP Janie!!

GaryBuseysTeeth Mon 29-Jul-13 18:06:25

Great news rock.

Gary Jr shouldn't be too long now, they're going to start induction because my fluid is low (in your face Totatl CodPiece) & the reduced movements again...so will update (or get DH to do it) once everything kicks off!

Hurrah for more money than SMP Janie!!

JanieLovesLuckySocks Mon 29-Jul-13 18:08:00

waaaaaaaaaaaa gary this is toooooo exciting!!!!!!!!!!!! good luck! and remember....puuusssshhhhh! eek i just did a little bit of a woop woop!!!

IBelieveInPink Mon 29-Jul-13 18:19:33

Gary!! As in, start induction now?? How flipping exciting!! Remember happy thoughts, opening like a flower, blah blah blah etc, good luck sweets!!

GardenWorm Mon 29-Jul-13 18:25:47

Oooooh Garrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeee!!!!!

So very excited for you and your family xxxx

Go team Busey (let's hope Jr isn't born with Busey teeth!) grin

shellsocks Mon 29-Jul-13 18:27:16

Exciting gary grin Good luck and can't wait to hear your news!

GardenWorm Mon 29-Jul-13 18:27:24

IBIP ha ha ha : 'Opening like a flower' nearly pee'd myself, I will remind you of that phrase when you are in labour grin

ChristineDaae Mon 29-Jul-13 18:41:05

Ohhh Gary how exciting!!! Good luck!

andadietcoke Mon 29-Jul-13 18:45:19

Go Gareeeeeee push push push!

Super excited grin

Congrats on your scan rocksmile

Ooh Gary how exciting hope you have a cute little baba either today or by tomorrowsmile

BlackholesAndRevelations Mon 29-Jul-13 19:23:05

Yay Gary! I was hoping they'd say that! grin hope it goes smoothly and quickly and you have a lovely baby very very soon. Eeeek! Xxx

BumpKitty Mon 29-Jul-13 19:51:09

Wow gary I'm so excited! Our third thread baby on his way grin

I have been at Peppa Pig World today, needless to say DD loved it but I'm bloody exhausted - and I mostly sat waiting for DD and DH all day! There were lots of scrummy babies and it confirmed to me that 90% of girl toddlers are called Isabel! (same as DD).

Big wave to everyone x

BelissimaLol Mon 29-Jul-13 20:26:41

Hi ladies, I don't know if you remember me either but a little bird thunder tells me you love a happy ending on this thread so I thought I'd pop ingrin
I was here last summer after a mc at 7 weeks. You lot really helped me through it and when I fell pg again I was too scared to even come on MN!
Wellgringringrin
I'm proud to say my beautiful baby daughter was born on Saturday. She is perfect and amazing. I'm so overwhelmed with love I can't describe it!
I'm wishing you all happy pregnancies with healthy babies at the end of it!!!
Take care
Lol grin

IBelieveInPink Mon 29-Jul-13 20:35:01

Aww hey lol! Lovely to see you! Congratulations on your baby girl, so nice to hear the good news.
Hope you are all well and the birth was okay.
Congratulations!! X

GuffSmuggler Mon 29-Jul-13 20:42:26

Goooooooooooo gary!!! grin

Congrats belissima is great to hear people getting to the end of this journey with a snuggly little newborn.

DIYandEatCake Mon 29-Jul-13 21:24:25

Wow gary, all the best of luck and really hoping everything goes smoothly for you and baby, and that it doesn't take too long.
Congratulations belissima! Lovely to hear your news.
janie that's great about your mat pay, I remember your boss worries from a couple of months ago. Whoever was talking about tiredness (sorry am on my phone and can't see last page now) I'm with you. Dp thinks I'm completely making it up though, grrr! If he whinges 'this place is such a mess' whilst dumping his smelly gym kit on the floor one more time...!

JanieLovesLuckySocks Mon 29-Jul-13 21:38:39

congrats belissima!! love to hear such a happy story!

diy i know how you feel!! when i was knackered on the sofa yesterday afternoon, i moaned that i was angry cos the house was so bloody messy...DH just told me it wasn't going to get tidied if i was just lying on the settee!! raaaaaage!!!!

shellsocks Mon 29-Jul-13 21:42:30

Oooo keep thinking abt you gary hope you are holding your baby soon xxx

andadietcoke Mon 29-Jul-13 21:46:10

Awwww Lol congratulations! And thanks for dropping in. It was you b-name graduates and your BFPs (and not coming back to the thread) that helped me have a little bit of faith. So pleased for you. Enjoy every teeny tiny snuggly baby minute xx

Chocolateteabag Mon 29-Jul-13 22:16:33

Yay Go Gary! - hope you are already through the tough bit

Another knackered one here, spent the weekend trying to look after DS and feeling exhausted. Work has been a rest today!

Lovely news Belissima - congratulations on your baby girl, it is lovely to get baby news on this thread smile

Wonder if gary has had her baby?

Pentagon Tue 30-Jul-13 09:08:41

gary how exciting!! Good luck, I hope it goes smoothly and quickly!

belissima congratulations on your baby girl! It's lovely when people come back and share their happy ending! I hope you're enjoying motherhood (it's amazing, isn't it?)

janie great news about the pay!!

WhatWillSantaBring Tue 30-Jul-13 09:09:29

Ooooh, I hope gary has had her baby and both are safe and well. An induction is my worst nightmare <shudders remembering what happened when they gave my oxytocin as my labour slowed>

Gary's comments yesterday are going to make me get on my soapbox. Its too early for a lot of you but getting to that point with many of you.... COUNT THE KICKS countthekicks.org.uk/ Always call your midwife if you think movements have changed. After 26 weeks or so, you should always be able to feel kicks. (Not just movements- proper kicks). This is a good thread, telling you mostly happy stories here

I'm not trying to scare people, but reassure you all that your mw/hospital will never never make you feel stupid for worrying. I went in at 32 weeks with my last pregnancy and they were so unbelievably lovely to me. I had a scary 24 hours when DC1 was being a lazy arse, but they monitored me loads, and never once made me feel like I was being a panicky first time mum. Also, listen to your hospital, and if they recommend getting things going (a la Gary), go with it. bumpkitty, I don't know if you remember, but there was a girl on the Dec 2010 thread who insisted on going home rather than being induced. So so sad.

Anyway, lecture over ladies, as you were. (Sorry if I've scared you, that is not my intent, but it is an awareness thing that I was very unaware of until I went in with DC1).

IBelieveInPink Tue 30-Jul-13 09:15:50

<squeezes on to soapbox with santa> What santa said. I know it's early but I have already been in once as movements had changed, and midwives wanted me in to check.
They were absolutely lovely, didn't make me feel silly at all, had a good check of baby and sent me home. Only took hour and half in total including travel to hospital, but was entirely worth it to know everything is okay.

SaggyOldClothCatPuss Tue 30-Jul-13 10:18:10

HEEELLLPPPP MMMEEEE! I'm stuck in the Lake District with my insane mountain climbing In Laws! confused they had me up to 1500ft on Sunday! I haven't been able to move since! confused grin I'd like to secretly confess that when I made it to the top I did feel immensely proud of myself, shh, dont tell them but seriously, I really feel knackered now! I'm going to make them go Kayaking tomorrow, because that's what I am good at! grin
Also, a question... Is it ok to have a full body massage? (70 long minutes of bliss) We are booked in for one tomorrow, but now I'm not sure and I am soooo looking forward to it!

andadietcoke Tue 30-Jul-13 10:19:39

Yep. I spent Sunday stressing about Ethel's movement and went in Sunday evening for CTG monitoring. She was kicking away, I just couldn't feel it at all. They were really lovely, and told me to come in any time I wanted, even if it was the next day. They would much rather you were reassured and they can check everything's okay.

In other news... 34 weeks today - feels like a big milestone, not sure why!!

Hope you're okay gary - have been thinking of you.

Janie that's brilliant - even if it's just a little bit it makes a difference. Very jealous!

andadietcoke Tue 30-Jul-13 10:39:55

Oh god saggy that sounds like my worst nightmare - well done you! But the massage envy - I am massively jealous! Should be fine, just watch out for aromatherapy oils - think some should be avoided.

[strops off to find a prenatal massage for next week] We get to give ourselves maternity leave presents, don't we?!

IBelieveInPink Tue 30-Jul-13 10:42:39

Saggy - yes I think massage is okay, but would be worth mentioning it so they don't use any of the oils that aren't advised in pregnancy. There are a few that 'contract' muscles which obviously aren't great. The usual ones like lavender are fine, but should be used in half quantities when pg, so worth letting them know.

Diet - Ethel? 34 weeks, wow! That seems like forever away, but means you are oh so close! And have you finished work now? Things starting to get real?

saggy 1500ft blimey, i would probably die from being knackeredgrin, you definetely deserve that massgage! Aswell as a rest!

Santa very good post re baby movements, very important to get checked out-mother is always right!

Anda 34 weekssmile, aww so close to having your babies and definetely a milestone to be happy about. I'm looking forward to getting to 24wks, then hopefully i will relax!-i'm 17wks at mo.

JBrd Tue 30-Jul-13 11:31:11

saggy I'm jealous of your holiday! I love hill walking/climbing, esp in the Lake District envy

However, I think you might find that once you mention that you are pg and in the 1st trimester, they might not want to give you the massage... Definitely watch out for the aromatic oils!
I could be wrong, but in my experience, beauty therapists, massage people etc won't touch you with a barge pole until you're at least 12 weeks! They are just covering their backs, you might get away with signing a consent form. Hope you can have your massage!

I am pleased to announce that after waking up last night at about 3am, feeling as if I was about to puke (I didn't), I feel absolutely bleurgh today grin
Good for reassurance, not so good for work confused

andadietcoke Tue 30-Jul-13 11:44:25

ibip three more work get-ups!
Ethel and Marjorie are their 'working titles' - Ethel is twin 1 and Marjorie is twin 2. They'll have 'proper' names when they're born. Maybe wink

IBelieveInPink Tue 30-Jul-13 12:04:32

Haha, love it diet! How do you tell which is which? Do they always stay the same sides, or can they move around each other?

Lieslvontrapp Tue 30-Jul-13 12:27:00

Thinking of you gary! Hope you've got your baby in your arms!

Diet not long to go now!

Saggy impresses with the active holiday! Hope you get your massage! I had one at 8 weeks on holiday and I told them and they used different product and made me lie on my side.

Still ill but feeling a bit better. My pregnancy concern at the minute is that at the weekend I thought my bump had popped but it's since gone down. Think it must have been bloating. Has any

Lieslvontrapp Tue 30-Jul-13 12:27:37

Has anyone experienced that? 12 weeks t

Lieslvontrapp Tue 30-Jul-13 12:28:25

Stupid phone! 12 weeks tomorrow!

andadietcoke Tue 30-Jul-13 12:28:53

They've been in the same place for a while now. Ethel is cephalic with her legs to maternal left, with an anterior placenta. Marjorie is transverse also with her legs to my left. They were both transverse at 28w but they don't expect them to move much now as they haven't got much space.

GuffSmuggler Tue 30-Jul-13 13:17:24

Hi saggy - we went to posh hotel the weekend before last and the spa wouldn't give me a massage, they said they won't massage anyone before 12 weeks, something to do with not wanting to interfere before the uterus 'pops' out and the oils.

They wouldn't even give me a head and shoulder massage because of the oils. I was a bit gutted but thought better to safe as they must have their reasons. Another beauty place has also told me the same.

liesl I think it's quite normal for it to pop in and out until you get a massive bump...!

I hope gary is ok and pushing out a snuggling newborn grin

WhatWillSantaBring Tue 30-Jul-13 15:06:29

Yeah, lots of people won't do stuff (or let you do stuff) before you're 12 weeks not because there is any good reason, but because they're worried that you'll blame a miscarriage on them. There is no medically proven link between massages (with, say, almond oil) and miscarriages, but because no-one knows what causes 90% of miscarriages, its too risky for them.

Its the same as the NHS not taking my blood when I was between miscarriages. Even though I was not and couldn't have been pregnant when I went, they wouldn't take it, "best to be safe".

Chocolateteabag Tue 30-Jul-13 18:26:06

Liesl - my bump has gone in and out every couple of days and I'm now 20 weeks. Some days I feel massive, some days I can almost suck in to a flat tummy. It will get bigger though grin

Anda - I was hoping it was going to be "Ethel & Bethel" but I like Marjorie too grin
My DM has already tactlessly blurted out "you'd better not be thinking of calling him blimmin Rupert!" - so annoyed that DH told her our potential names. Have told her she has to come up with at least 5 serious options. Which shut her up as she couldn't even come up with one immediately.

Right off to re-read the count the kicks stuff... Thanks Santa!

LuckySocks13 Tue 30-Jul-13 18:37:52

Another vote for the Count the Kicks campaign. I have a wrist band kick counter and you can print a sheet of the site to keep track of movements. My Dear friend lost her little girl full term last year. So very sad. Always best to get checked out.

JanieLovesLuckySocks Tue 30-Jul-13 18:43:03

santa thanks so much for the link to count the kicks, will definitely read it. i had a bit of a panic this morning as i thought things were a little quiet in there (im 23+3) so got the doppler out, as soon as i put it on my tummy, the little squatter started breakdancing again and so it must have known i was a little worried and came up to reassure me smile

saggy good work on the climb! blimey it made me pant just thinking about it! i would be wary about the massage - the salon i go to do a specific pregnancy massage for ladies after 12 weeks, before that, no massages allowed. maybe you could opt for a facial or perhaps reflexology or something that they might recommend? definitely make them aware you are pregnant.

anda i love the working title names! isn't it amazing that you;re going to meet them so soon!!! heehee!

liesl my bump sometimes disappears during he day then pops waaaaay out at night! bit awkward for dressing!

i ate too many pick a mix this afternoon and gave myself a bit of an upset tum oops. nor could i eat my tea cos i was so full of sweeties. had to fib to DH and say i was just too tired to eat oopsies!!

maybemyrtle Tue 30-Jul-13 18:58:51

Hello ladies just popping on to say hi grin

Has gary had her baby yet??? Hope all is going well.

This is the most posifrickintive thread ever, you ladies rock flowers

IBelieveInPink Tue 30-Jul-13 19:26:45

Janie - I know you probably know this, and I really don't mean to sound preachy - but if you worried about movements get it checked instead of dopplar. Midwives told me that they don't just check for a hb, they also listen in for any signs of distress, or decreased hb, which we may not pick up, so not to use it and think all okay.
Sorry - sure you already know this, but would never forget it if I hadnt said anything!
Still, if normal movement has resumed now, all okay for this time anyway smile

BlackholesAndRevelations Tue 30-Jul-13 19:27:48

Hi myrtle! flowers How're you doing? X

Ethel and Marjorie! Love! How you'll ever call them anything else, I don't know! grin

Will start counting kicks at an appropriate time. At the mo I don't think there's a pattern (that I can feel) but I'm only 19 weeks. Still feeling quite a sharp jab every now and then which makes me think a) big 'un! And b) big strong boy?! wink

BlackholesAndRevelations Tue 30-Jul-13 19:29:09

My DS was a big 'un... Over 10 lb!

JanieLovesLuckySocks Tue 30-Jul-13 19:35:37

hey myrtle smile hope you're doing ok. no news from gary yet...we're all on tenterhooks!

thanks pink, i really do appreciate your words. i normally get kicks when i get into bed at night if i'm reading on my back (raised back and head though). so far that's the main movement i feel, although when i have a hotcup of tea i do get a few boots in the belly as well smile

so when is the right time to start counting kicks? should they be constant throughout the day except for little rest periods? (first timer here don't ya know!) xx

IBelieveInPink Tue 30-Jul-13 19:55:48

smile
I'm also a first timer, so can't say for sure. As far as I have managed so far it's when you notice a difference to the usual movements. For example, I usually get something in the morning, then about 11am, after lunch, after dinner and in bed. And it's been increasing. So when I noticed nothing for 1 day- I had been running around all day - I figured I had just missed it, as if I not sat still it not as strong. So the next day I looked out for it, and noticed it was less than normal.

I was also worried about when is the right time to start noticing a difference, as up until the last couple weeks movements have been sporadic, but actually, when it came to it, I noticed what I felt was a significant difference not by looking for a specific number of kicks, but just when it was less than what I am used to.

Does that whole essay make sense?! Sorry - its hard to describe!! smile

JanieLovesLuckySocks Tue 30-Jul-13 20:03:56

thanks pink, i really appreciate it. funny... anytime i start thinking i haven't felt anything, the wee imp starts bashing me! i might start keeping a little note from now. although i'm office and desk based, i am constantly so incredibly busy so maybe i just don't really notice them during work, in comparison to when i'm watching tv or in bed. going to see blur on thursday so hopefully it will like dancing to that smile <<does a sun dance...keep the rain away>>

IBelieveInPink Tue 30-Jul-13 20:11:01

That's good - if you are noticing when not there, I'm sure you are paying enough attention smile
Ooh blur sounds good. <joins in with rain dance>

Well, my hypnobirthing book has arrived, so I am about to go all hippy tree huggy at one with earth. Or something. clearly not read it yet will report back with opinions!

JanieLovesLuckySocks Tue 30-Jul-13 20:17:53

bring on the kicks smile i would rather you did a sun dance though rather than a rain dance!! i don't want thunder storms eek!

which hypno book did you go for? i'm have dh scrubbing the bathroom tonight. my plan is bath...clean jammies...relax into bed and try to read the breathing techniques section (i have the mongan one)...i've not been able to concentrate properly up to now. and i left my mobile at work so means i have zero distraction too yay! the cd is really good at getting me to sleep although i have no idea what it talks about after the first 5 minutes as i always fall asleep!

shellsocks Tue 30-Jul-13 20:23:05

Ah mad day with the in laws hmm

Been peeking in for news of gary tho, hope you're ok and have your baby now! smile

Counting the kicks was from 28w when I was PG with DS, not sure if that's changed but I have been getting the baby to kick every evening while watching telly just to make sure for a few weeks now, just in case! Cold can if coke and a bad of tangfastics works every time winkgrin

And I defo don't use the doppler now for reassurance, always go in if you're not feeling kicks...they said after two hours of lying still and trying the coke/sweets thing when I was PG last time smile

IBelieveInPink Tue 30-Jul-13 20:28:07

I mean rain dance to keep rain away. Or something. Either way hoping for sun!

I got the maggie Howell one. Just the book at the moment, will get the cd if it seems sensible. Prefer reading to listening, so thought I'd give it a go. I have been ignoring the fact tht at some point there will hopefully be a birth, so anything to get me focused cant be bad!

omri Tue 30-Jul-13 20:35:32

Just checking in to see if there's any word from Gary...? This is like kate Middleton all over again!!!!

omri Tue 30-Jul-13 20:50:43

Can I ask for a little posifrickintivity on the more practical side of this pregnancy? My dp has been unemployed for past 18 months so I am sole income. I only have 3 months salary saved up and would love to take 9 months mat leave. My horrible work doesn't pay me a penny while on mat leave (only statutory obviously which won't go anywhere near our bills). What am I going to do??? So scared. Just keep putting it aside when i think about it as I have no idea how we'll survive... Of course will try to save between now and then but not sure it'll go anywhere near what we need to live ... Scared.

JanieLovesLuckySocks Tue 30-Jul-13 22:00:29

good luck with the book pink, i'd be interested to hear what it's like. the one i have is quite american but not toooo bad.

omri sorry you're having the money worry. dh and i are pretty crap with money and it's been a worry for us. if your dh is on benefits is he then able to get extra help when your baby arrives? i'm by no means an expert but there are quite a few schemes / tax credits etc. out there to hlp. do you have sure start in your area? someone recently pointed me in the direction of www.acas.org.uk which is pretty useful. i've read up on people being able to take mortgage holidays too.

we don't have any savings at all so it is going to be a stressful time. i've also been trying to put away some money each month although it's a really small amount. i've tried to make lots of little changes - had 3 months of no impulse buys, i've gone through my drawers and cupboards and found about 4 years supply of moisturisers and make up that i'm just going to bloody well use. i made £100 on ebay selling clothes and shoes and that went in my pot.

the main thing i've read is that babies don't actually cost that much. breast feeding is free if you can manage it, you will receive oceans of clothes as gifts. there are quite a few good forums on the credit crunch section of mumsnet too with good advice.

Rockchick1984 Tue 30-Jul-13 23:16:03

Omri work out what bills you can get rid of for 6 month or so - as Janie said if you have a mortgage you can usually either take a payment holiday or go onto interest only temporarily. Cancel any non-essentials like Sky (or at least extra packages like sports if you are tied into a contract), magazine subs etc. Dont forget you won't have work expenses any more - lunches, travel, work clothes all add up very quickly! If you and DH are both at home there will be lots of time to get best deals on shopping, and time to cook from scratch - since becoming a SAHM I can do a weekly shop for £25-30 per week for me, DH and 2.5yr old DS which includes nappies, cleaning products etc, and just top up with milk and bread during the week. Definitely apply for tax credits, and no harm applying for housing benefit if renting - the worst they can say is no! Also don't forget you will get child benefit which is about £80 every 4 weeks, and SMP which is about £500 per month.