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PG after MC - posifrickentivity, hand holding, and smelly gush.

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IBelieveInPink Sat 22-Jun-13 07:32:55

Thread for ladies who are freaking out panicking slightly when preggy after miscarriage.
Plenty of oldies. Newbies always welcome.

ChocolateCremeEggBag Sat 22-Jun-13 09:20:13

Ooh lovely new thread! Thanks IBIP thanks

Thinking about getting a Doppler - have been reading everyone's posts about them and understand the cons, but the pros would be lovely.
Should I just rent one for a month, or try to get one cheap on eBay?

shellsocks Sat 22-Jun-13 09:44:35

Thanks for the new thread pink grin

Where did smelly gush come from?! (I don't mean literally!) Ha ha

choc mine was only £20 from amazon so not worth renting IMO and I think it's the best thing I've ever bought so no cons from me, got my through the mid stages without losing my mind as much

Hope you're ok stitch x

IBelieveInPink Sat 22-Jun-13 09:53:10

No idea, but I found it amusing so I put it in!! smile

Choc - also a fan of doppler. When it works it is amazing and really helped. However, need to be prepared for baby hiding and not panicking about it!!

Those who have dd's already - what does your DP do with them when they have daddy/daughter time? I think mr pink is a little confused about what he is going to do with a pink baby now he can't go to the park for a kick around!! (I have told him he still can, but he is a little confused by this!!)

BumpKitty Sat 22-Jun-13 10:42:07

ibip well DD is only 2 but she loves playing football and doing anything outdoors, she loves being chucked about and tickled and swung around and DH and grandad's do this better than me! She also likes Lego and painting etc. she does like dolls and pink stuff too but he'll learn about that smile
I think my DH would have liked a DS but its their sperm that decides the sex so nothing to do with us women!

jmf294 Sat 22-Jun-13 10:50:11

Thanks for the new thread Pink.
Always feel a sense of relief when I make it to a new thread. Love to those who left us in the last thread.

My daughter age 3 loves playing in the garden, going to the park, playing on her scooter, Lego, and lots of dolls. My husband had to look after her for the day the other day- then went out for coffee and cake and spent the rest of the day watching DVDs and playing Lego!!

GaryBuseysTeeth Sat 22-Jun-13 11:29:10

shell, blackholes invited everyone on the last fred to slap her with a smelly gush shock
I believe she meant fish but you can't be too sure....

Choc, angelsounds Doppler, £17 on amazon. Very much recommended!

I know I'm 'more' pregnant than a lot of women on here (unless I go overdue & anda beats me to it!) so am more than happy to pass on any of my pg related stuff that might be useful once I've popped.

littlepinkfizz Sat 22-Jun-13 11:31:38

Can I join please? Got my BFP this week after a mc aut 13.5 weeks last July. Have 4 dc and had 2 mc before ds (2 years) so very nervous but excited.

Need someone to hold my hand. So want this pregnancy to go to term.dont drink or smoke. Not overweight. Excercise regularly,down to 1 coffee a day. Can't do any more.

Loo,king forward to getting to know you all and congratulations on your pregnancies smile

LuckySocks13 Sat 22-Jun-13 12:13:09

Welcome to the thread LittlePinkFizz smile wishing you a healthy and Uneventful pregnancy.
Still PMSL at slap me with a smelly gush grin

Pentagon Sat 22-Jun-13 12:16:33

thanks for the new thread ibip! When DH looks after DD for the day, he takes her for walks or bike rides at the park or they play in the garden (with ball, scooter, bubble gun, painting); and she loves pottering around in DH's garage!

fizz welcome, congratulations on your pregnancy and good luck! I have a 2 yr old DD and I'm now 21 weeks with another little girl apparently smile. I hope you're not feeling too rough (probably too early for that anyway). Do you think you'll be having an early scan?

andadietcoke Sat 22-Jun-13 12:40:46

littlepinkfizz congratulations and welcome! We're very (very) good at hand holding (but not so good at taking our own advice...)

I still want a Doppler - especially since their movement's changing at the moment and getting a bit more discreet. I'd need one with a digital reading to differentiate between the heartbeats though - has anyone got one of those?

I don't think I have much pg related stuff to pass on, but like gary am more than happy to - if anyone would like some Next cropped under bump jeans let me know - I forgot to return them and they don't fit me. They're an 18 but more like a 16 I think - my problem with them is they're not very stretchy and I am 'large of calf'. Anyway - free to a good home if anyone wants them smile

BlackholesAndRevelations Sat 22-Jun-13 13:41:14

Hehe- very amused that my smelly gush typo made it to the title!

Welcome to the new thread everyone and especially littlrpinkfizz- wishing you a happy and healthy pregnancy! How old are all of your other dc? pumpkinsweetie is also on dc number five I think!

LuckySocks13 Sat 22-Jun-13 13:49:36

My DS is 3.4 at the moment.
Love my Doppler. It is a digital one. Sololone B I think. Got it off ebay.
Yes thanks for the thread Pink. Forgot to say smile

JanieLovesLuckySocks Sat 22-Jun-13 15:51:25

thanks for the new thread pink! having a right giggle at the smelly gush!!

and welcome fizz i'm sure i remember you from the ttc thread smile sounds like you're doing everything you possibly could be doing! keep up the good work yay!

chocolate i'm all for the doppler, but not too early! panicked myself the first time i tried it (12wks i think) and couldn't hear a heartbeat but now it's fab! i borrowed a friends angelsound one

LuckySocks13 Sat 22-Jun-13 17:24:58

Agree with Janie. I couldn't find the heart beat until between 16 and 17 weeks! Hope everyone's having a lovely weekend? I'm of out for a couple of hours tonight to see my Dad play in his band. Just had to resort to a cup of coffee to keep awake. Only had about 3 in the last 4 months and boy can I feel that one!
We are hopefully off to Thomas Land on Monday with DS weather permitting! Best put on those lucky socks!

Yay, a new thread smile
Hello & welcome LittlePinkFizz, holding hands and i see your having baby no5, just like me smile-Blackholes is right i have 4dc & had a mc in feb, this is baby no5 for me too! 12.3 today, another scan on thurs (NT) keeping fingers crossed everything is ok!
Actually made a purchase today on something that temps fate, but as it's now in my loft i will forget for now i bought it-a saving i could not resist!

ChocolateCremeEggBag Sat 22-Jun-13 18:53:02

Thanks for the Doppler tips!

Yay Fizz good to see you over here!

stitchinline Sat 22-Jun-13 20:03:51

Chocolate - I have an angel sounds doppler from dd that I am going to be getting rid of - if you want it just pm me your details and I'll send it to you.
I just can't be bothered to ship it and have no room in my suitcase.

Have managed to get through the first day and feeling ok. Just a few more to go.

GardenWorm Sat 22-Jun-13 20:37:26

Hello new thread

Hello Peeps

Hello Fizz

Hey Stich one down only two to go (as you can't count Tuesday), hope the next two days go as well as today x

StarsInTheNightSky Sat 22-Jun-13 20:40:30

Can I join in please? I'm now just under eight weeks pg after two previous mc, this will be our first dc. Feeling very scared at the moment as I started spotting this morning. TMI --> Just a tiny, tiny amount of brown and then a little bit of pink and only when I wipe, and not everytime I go to the toilet but it triggered full on panic. The midwife has booked me into the epu for a scan on Tuesday morning as that was the earliest they could do. I'm trying to keep calm and rest and think posifrekintivity. Sorry to be a misery.

andadietcoke Sat 22-Jun-13 20:43:26

Hi stars try not to worry too much - I started with that at 7.5 weeks and it continued until about 24 weeks - I have a cervical ectropion - really common, and not associated with any complications. Hope Tuesday comes quickly for you...

StarsInTheNightSky Sat 22-Jun-13 20:51:19

andadietcoke thank you, that's made me feel a lot better. I don't have any pain or cramping yet, and hopefully won't get any! I have been trying to explain to DP that I just need a bit more hand holding. Sign. Think I'm turning into a great blob of panic and paranoia, and I'm usually very calm. Sorry about that and thanks again

ChocolateCremeEggBag Sat 22-Jun-13 21:28:18

Hi stars - welcome to the thread, and please try not to panic. No pain or cramping is a really good sign. Just take it very easy and rest as much as you can until Tuesday.

Stitch - that is so kind of you - I am really hoping that you still need it as you will be getting good news on Tuesday

shellsocks Sat 22-Jun-13 21:34:51

Ha ha forgot abt the gush fish lol lovin that it's in the thread title grin

pumpkin I made a almost purchase, more like a commitment to purchase today too and totally feel like I've tempted fate hmm DH, me and DS had a date next Sun to go to town for the day and go to John Lewis and try all the prams as its the weekend after the 20w scan and we have done nothin yet together for the new baby...we can't go for various reasons now so we went today instead and I've fell in love so nothing else will do chosen the one I want (baby jogger grin) but now I feel like I've totally tempted fate and why couldn't we bloody wait till after the scan confused

Welcome fizz and stars congrats on your BFPs smile Plenty of hand holding here and no worry is too small (or bonkerswink) to air here, one or all of us is bound to have thought/been through the same x

StarsInTheNightSky Sat 22-Jun-13 21:40:58

ChocolateCremeEggBag thank you for the welcome and thanks, I'm starting to feel more reassured now, still feeling pretty cautious though. I am thinking positive though. Thanks again.

StarsInTheNightSky Sat 22-Jun-13 21:44:01

shellsocks thank you so much smile sorry my chronically slow typing meant I didn't see you post. I think being pg turns me completely bonkers and hysterical! wink x

Pentagon Sat 22-Jun-13 21:47:24

welcome stars and all the best for your pregnancy! Brown/pink discharge isn't anything to worry about 99% of the time - I hope you have good news on Tuesday; same for you stitch, glad the first day has gone OK, only 2 to go.

shell I think we're all superstitious after our miscarriages, I doubt you have tempted fate and you haven't bought the pram anyway, just had a look right? wink

shellsocks Sat 22-Jun-13 21:47:25

stars we are all the same, it's really sad that we are all here but it's good that we can vent at each other cos at least you know there are people that understand just how bonkers you are grin

littlepinkfizz Sat 22-Jun-13 21:47:42

Thank you for all your kind welcomes! Sounds like a busy thread with lots of support. So nervous even though its my 5 dc ( I pray) but my 9 th pregnancy.

My dc are 16,15,13 and 2!

Nice to see another on #5 pumpkin

shellsocks Sat 22-Jun-13 21:52:28

I know pentagon but with DS I didn't look at anything at all till weeks from now, so this feels all wrong. With my first PG (MMC) me and DH went into mamas and papas when I was abt 9w looked round, then walked out as we felt daft in there not having a clue...but it made me scared to go near a baby shop when PG with DS and my brain is saying look how the two PGs turned out confused DH is out tonight so obviously thinking abt this too much! Gonna have a dopple in a min, cheer myself up smile

IBelieveInPink Sat 22-Jun-13 21:56:12

Welcome fizz and stars! Lovely to have you here. Yes, we chat lots, so there is loads of support smile

Thanks for the advice on dd's ladies smile I think he is coming round to the idea. I'm overjoyed I will get to play with babies again!! Only problem is, we always did struggle on girl names!!

Shell, you have totally not tempted fate. Looking at prams doesn't count, honest!! (I'm off to order mine tomorrow. Yay!)

Just looked at the measurements from baby girls scan. She has slightly below average measurements for everything apart from the distance between her ears! Does this mean she will be clever or just hard to push out!
Also has short legs, just like me smile
All says normal, so happy with all of them not googling at all

StarsInTheNightSky Sat 22-Jun-13 22:00:23

Pentagon thank you so much, I just saw it, panicked and thought the worst. The poor midwife must have thought I was off my rocker when I phoned her completely hysterical blush

Shell thank you, it is really nice to have people to talk to who understand, it's making such a difference to my sanity level already! I'm sure you won't have jinxed anything, it's so sad how mc can rob the joy out of being pg but I'm sure everything will be fine smile. Could you watch something rubbish on TV or something like that to help take your mind off things as well as the dopple?

JanieLovesLuckySocks Sat 22-Jun-13 22:02:12

hi stars! welcome and huge congrats! i second everything that has been said already smile hope tuesday comes quickly!

shell i had a notion to go to mamas and papas today to look at prams, the only reason i didn't go was that i was like a zombie and had to go home and crawl into bed. i might go tomorrow though. mainly because i've started to panic that i need a super expensive one to fit in my car (i have a mini) so i just want to get an idea of cost. or come to terms with the fact that i might need to change my car!

shellsocks Sat 22-Jun-13 22:04:05

stars I've sky plused the voice (total crap telly!) then got a Johnny Depp Film so it's all good smile

DIYandEatCake Sat 22-Jun-13 22:10:49

Hi everyone, just checking in quickly as on holiday (again!), congratulations on all the good scans and everything crossed for you stitch for Tuesday. Welcome fizz and stars too smile

JanieLovesLuckySocks Sun 23-Jun-13 15:50:04

hope you're having a lovely time n hols diy lucky duck!

i think i have a little breakdancer in my tum - been feeling some crazy little baby movements today, more than ever before. either a breakdancer or a karate kid! eek! thought i was never going to get these feelings!

IBelieveInPink Sun 23-Jun-13 17:12:07

Aw Janie that's so lovely. smile Has your dp felt yet?

Well I am officially being brave. Pram bought! And some pink stuff just to make it really real. Meep.

JanieLovesLuckySocks Sun 23-Jun-13 17:27:36

Ooooh pink that's exciting!!! Eek!!

DH didn't feel it, I couldn't feel when I held my tummy...wondering is it because I've got a bit of a flabby tum (read that as spare tyre) cushioning the blows

jessw25 Sun 23-Jun-13 17:56:36

Hi all, pls can I join you guys too?

My story - Had a mc this time last year, literally this week, it was my first pregnancy.

Am now over the moon to be 36 weeks but have grade 4 placenta previa and having had a couple of medium bleeds, have spent last 3 weeks in hospital and got another 2 left till my scheduled ceaserean, if we get that far (if have major bleed they'll need to do an emergency one, which us why I have to be here!)

My friends have all had 'easy'/ text book pregnancies so I sometimes feel quite miffed, lying here worried in hospital, that after the horribleness of the mc last year, I'm now 'high risk' with this pregnancy. The man upstairs is making me work for my first baby... I'm sure this will only make me love him/her even more but it just doesn't seem fair sometimes does it!!

BlackholesAndRevelations Sun 23-Jun-13 17:56:54

Can't wait tofeel mine move, it's truly amazing smile enjoy! (until they get so big it actually hurts being booted from the inside out, lol!)

I'm sure my dp didn't feel our babies move until way after 20 weeks- the kicks just weren't strong enough. I felt DD at 17 weeks and DS at 16- only 2 more weeks to go, maybe?! Eeek!

BlackholesAndRevelations Sun 23-Jun-13 18:02:01

Cross posts Jess- congratulations on your pregnancy and sorry to hear you've been stuck in hospital so long sad. it won't be long til this all becomes a distant memory and you have your little one in your arms! Welcome to the thread, look forward to having a birth announcement on here soon!! grin

LuckySocks13 Sun 23-Jun-13 18:45:31

Welcome Jess. As Blackholes said hopefully all this will be a distant memory very soon. It must really suck being stuck in hospital.
Also welcome to Stars. I am just 18 weeks and have been having bleeds ranging from brown to pink to red over the duration of this pregnancy. Pretty petrifying.
Wow Janie. I'm very jealous of your little break dancer envy I may have felt something today but cant be too sure!
Well done on you purchases Pink smile I have brought a little baby grow smile
Sorted DS baby box out today as having a bit of a spring clean. Inside was his coming home from hospital clothes and a teeny tiny little nappy. My goodness I forgot how small they are!!!

andadietcoke Sun 23-Jun-13 19:08:05

pink that's awesome - which one did you get?

jess welcome! At least you're in the very best place, although I bet it's driving you insane being there. Not too long to go though... smile

IBelieveInPink Sun 23-Jun-13 19:33:06

Hey jess. Exciting stuff! (although I'm sure hideously boring for you!) not long now til you have your LO though! I take it you don't know what flavour you are expecting?

Diet - I got the uppababy vista, and the maxi cosy pebble car seat. I'm so in love with it. And I got a changing bag too! I'm all mummied up now smile

Baby has been having a wiggle again. Think she's excited too!

BlackholesAndRevelations Sun 23-Jun-13 21:01:47

Congrats on the purchases and wiggly baby, pink! grin

I'm stuffing my face to the point if bingeing at the moment.... Somebody stop me!! I already have a big fat belly and at 14 weeks my baby is still deep down there in my pelvis. (unless- clutching at straws hopefully- it's moved up quicker as it's my third baby?!)

I just ate (eek) about 4 bags of snack a jacks. blush blush blush

GardenWorm Sun 23-Jun-13 21:14:04

'About 4 bags' Blackholes that just made me chuckle! They are relatively healthy aren't they? Could be worse...(thinks).....could be 4 pasties or something!

Hello Jess god you must be bored out of your mind! I was bored in hospital for one night after DD. Hopefully the next couple of weeks go smoothly for you.

Shell fab choice with the Baby Jogger - thought you'd written it off as its a tandem? I love my single, no new prams for me. You can get car seat adapters for it too if you wanted to (for the single at least)

Pink meant to ask if DH likes swimming? I have taken DD to swimming lessons since she was 3mths. And will probably start earlier with the next one. She can't get enough of it! Maybe something DH could do? If not the actual lessons because of work etc maybe on the weekends as a family? Not too girly and if they love it it's soooo cute to dunk em and see them swim.

Hope today went as well as it could Stitch and that tomorrow races by for you x

jessw25 Sun 23-Jun-13 21:23:48

Thanks for the welcome all :-)

And nope pink, I don't know the flavour ('flavour', love that lol!) - am very impatient to find out! Bet you're excited now you have the buggy etc! Think getting that sorted makes it much more real.

I reckon your 4x snack a jacks is allowed Blackhole cos surely 2 bags of that is like 1 bag of norm crisps so you've had 2 for you and 2 for LO?! My DH has brought me in some cadburys creme eggs tonight....they won't last long, oink

BumpKitty Sun 23-Jun-13 22:01:03

Oh jess what a pain, but you are definitely in the right place and they are keeping an eye on you. I hope the weeks fly by and you are soon back at home with your lovely baby unable to imagine a time when you could lie in a hospital bed eating creme eggs! ;)

Hello fizz I remember you smile so glad to have you here and you too stars good luck for Tuesday, lots of us have had bleeding and gone on to have healthy babies xx

Happy holidays diy smile hope you're somewhere warm and lovely.

I went to watch the new superman film on Friday (it's very dull) and it was so loud the baby was having a right old dance about, it was almost certainly the noise and not the bags of revels, randoms and minstrels I was eating smile (Blackholes you are a bingeing lightweight! Snack-a-Jacks are practically one of your five a day they are so healthy grin)

And... we stayed with some friends on Saturday night, they have been trying for baby 2 for 9 months. The men went out to buy beer and friend's DH came back and dropped a pg test in her lap (not very subtle!) she said she would do it the next day to not spoil her night but then snuck off and did it and BFP!!!! So excited for her, she did have to leave the last half of her Cosmopolitan though grin It's a secret though so no telling!

JanieLovesLuckySocks Sun 23-Jun-13 22:23:39

ooh bump that's so exciting about your friend!! my lips are sealed ;) i would have killed DH if he did that though!!!

hi jess, so exciting that you little bundle s arriving so soon! hope you have lots of cheesey magazines and things to keep you entertained. good luck for the next few weeks

blackholes your snack a jacks binge sounds pretty tame compared to some of mine! wow i managed a £2.50 pick a mix and then a big indian takeaway on friday night - thought i was going to pop. now that's a binge!

lucky i had a few teases in there over the last week or so, wasn't really sure if it was baby or just tummy rumbles, but today i had a cheese on toast and a cuppa and then booom! the breakdancing started! i'm sure of it smile i bet you'll have the same soon!

pink i'm very impressed at your purchase! did it take you long to decide on one? i'm completely baffled anytime i look online...never made it to m&p today...where else can you look...i'm such a novice at all this!

BumpKitty Sun 23-Jun-13 22:27:02

yeah janie i would have killed him too but he had to buy it in front of my DH and my DH is a right gossip so he reasoned I would have found out anyway grin

prams - john lewis, kiddicare, mothercare. I got so fed up of looking and researching I just went out and bought one - it was crap!

DIYandEatCake Sun 23-Jun-13 22:29:06

Um, not very warm at the moment - on a very windswept bit of the English coast - but lovely as we're away with my parents and dd loves them and the seaside so is chuffed to bits. bump it's funny you say that about the cinema, I remember seeing one of the Harry potter movies when 20-something weeks with dd and almost leaving half way through as she was wriggling so much and I was worried! Never worked out if it was the noise or my terror (yes, I'm a wuss with even kids films) that caused it, but didn't go back to the cinema again while pg...

pink loving the posifrickintivity and pram buying, and yay for lots of wriggles janie!

IBelieveInPink Sun 23-Jun-13 23:18:07

Garden - brilliant idea! DH used to be a county swimmer and loves swimming - just hadnt occurred to us that he could take her! He thinks it is a great idea and just got quite excited about it!

Janie - yes, took a lot of research! And about 5 different shops to decide. But we are fairly certain it does everything we want smile we found John Lewis the best for advice, if only just to use them for that then go somewhere else with a better idea of what to look for.

Pentagon Sun 23-Jun-13 23:42:32

welcome jess, so close to the end - hurray! I bet you can't wait to meet your baby! I know it's a drag being stuck at hospital but I hope you feel safer being there.

pink you've got a pram - yay! So exciting!

DIY I hope you're enjoying your holiday and the weather gets better soon!

jmf how was Bristol? You must be knackered but it's a great place so it must have been worth it

Off to bed now...I've had a lovely day with DH and DD and don't want to go to work tomorrow sad

ChocolateCremeEggBag Mon 24-Jun-13 06:19:59

Hi Jess - being "stuck" in hospital sounds like it would be a lovely holiday from where I am sitting but I imagine you are feelling a bit imprisoned. It won't be long though and really best place to be as I have heard that PP bleds can be pretty scary. FX you don't have one and just have another boring 2 week stay. Enjoy the reading magazines in relative peace grin

I have spent this weekend painting DS's soon to be new bedroom while DH and he had a "mans weekend) - watching rugby and doing minor DIY ("look Mummy I drilling" - the drill bit bashing holes into the wall hmm)
So am now more knackered than at the start of the weekend and now full week of lovely work.
Whining over..

So what do we have this week? Any scans other than Stars on Tuesday?

GardenWorm Mon 24-Jun-13 07:36:14

Awe Pink in that case he will love it (I am useless in water - don't even like getting my face wet, but love taking DD, I reckon she can already swim better than me. The shame!!!). The class after dd's last week was just 8 Daddy's with their babies - they looked so cute/cheesy American film (but still so cute)..smile

BlackholesAndRevelations Mon 24-Jun-13 08:41:17

My dp loves taking our DD swimming too! When DS was very little he often used to take her swimming to give me some time. Now we have two waterbabies and love taking them both! grin

He also enjoys taking her for "coffee and cake"!!

BlackholesAndRevelations Mon 24-Jun-13 09:04:56

Glad I'm considered a bingeing lightweight, too! Phew! grin

smileWelldone pink on your big purchase! Exciting!

Ooh snack a jacks, mmm i fancy some now may have to get some later, i especially like the caramel & sweet chilli ones and i also like the large cheese ones.
Im still on my dairlea triangles need to buy more toosmile

Bodicea Mon 24-Jun-13 10:19:35

Hi just catching up after busy weekend.
Congrats on all he good scan news.

Baby is kicking and thumping me like crazy at the moment! Loving it but a bit surprised it is this "violent" already! Dh even managed to feel it last night.
My scan not till next Tuesday - feels like ages off. I will be closer to 21 weeks but hopefully will get nice clear pics coz of size.

What is everyone doing about going maternity leave? My friend said I would have to decide soon when handing in Mat b1 form. didn't realise as wanted to wait an see how pregnancy went. Thinking of going at 37 weeks (mat leave starting at 38 weeks with a weeks hol before) but friend thinks I am pushing it!

IBelieveInPink Mon 24-Jun-13 10:30:04

Bod - I am thinking of leaving it til 39 weeks and still taking a weeks hol, so starting 'mat leave' week 40!!
It very much depends on your employer in terms of deciding when you are planning to leave. Legally it should be week 25 you tell them, but some are happy to be flexible, some not so!!
If you need any help, I work in HR, so can assist with that sort of thing. Finally I feel helpful, after all the scan advice you have given, I can help too!! smile

Bodicea Mon 24-Jun-13 10:51:13

Thanks pink - actually my situation is pretty complicated. I have two contracts for one trust. I have three weeks hol left in one job and only one left in the other. Do you think i could give two different dates for start of mat leave for each contract or would that be too complicated ?

Pentagon Mon 24-Jun-13 11:11:50

bod, I'm thinking of starting my maternity leave on week 40 and take the remainder of my holiday (14 working days) just before which means I'll leave work when I'm 37 weeks. I haven't confirmed with HR yet, I think I'll tell them once I get my MatB1 form (I can change the dates towards the end if I see I can't handle it, right pink?) WIth DD, I left work at the end of 34 weeks and got really lonely and depressed. It was just before Christmas and I thought "oh I'll just read lots of book and watch films/Christmas TV - it'll be great" Well, I was so anxious and restless, I nested like there's no tomorrow and ended up being knackered. I only enjoyed the last couple of weeks when my parents came over for the birth (I was 10 days late and once I had company I managed to relax and enjoy it) Of course it's not the same for everyone, a lot of people leave early and have a lovely time. Most women I know leave work a month before they're due but it depends on the nature of the job of course

choc sorry you had such a tiring weekend, very cute to have your DS and DH doing DIY together smile

So bod has a scan next and also shell I guess? (based on EDDs)

IBelieveInPink Mon 24-Jun-13 11:16:32

Wow. That is complicated! Yes, you should be able to start them at different times. Does that mean you will qualify for 2 lots of maternity pay? This is very clever I should have 2 jobs!!

IBelieveInPink Mon 24-Jun-13 11:18:52

Pentagon- yes, you can change your dates. And it is easier to bring them forward than push them back, so Im going to say later and bring them forward if I need to.

shellsocks Mon 24-Jun-13 11:29:06

Well done pink had a google and that pram looks brill, what colour you chosen? And what bag?!

Welcome jess and congrats smile Very worrying but you are in the best place and you'll forget these weeks once the baby is here, hope all goes well x

garden I'm thinking of the city mini so it's a double, not tandem...it's fab grin

Yep, scan on Fri...mild panic as the kicks are much less strong/frequent than with DS and my bumps smaller confused

Loving all the kicks everyone's getting smile bump I'm off to see man of steel tonight so maybe ill get loads then grin

Good luck for tomorrow stitch and stars, be thinking if you x

shellsocks Mon 24-Jun-13 11:34:34

Oh and re maternity leave I think you have to also leave a bit of room in your mind to take account of how you might feel. I was advised to finish at 31 weeks last time due to PGP, but kept going till 35 (it was my busy period at work and they let me work from home every other day) and I really needed to finish by then!

I've planned to finish at 36 this time (using 3 weeks hols) but I've got DS now so looking forward to the time on my own with him before no2 arrives smile

shellsocks Mon 24-Jun-13 11:44:21

If anyone is on a computer would they copy the stats over here please....I can't do it till Wed when I'm back in work smile

Bodicea Mon 24-Jun-13 11:58:50

Lol I wish pink. I work full time equivalent. I assume I will get the same as if I just worked full time in one job. its a blimmin nightmare to sort esp my holiday - i lose all of my hol time off one job cos of bank hols! Maybe I will qualify for two lots of statutory mat pay after 6 months that would be fab!! Doubt it though;-) I think I will have the advantage of being able to have different times of mat leave. Thinking of having 9 months off one job and a year off other to ease myself into coming back.

Pentagon you have a point about putting it off for longer and then going off early if cant cope. I want to work as long as poss but not sure what I will be like as my job can be quite physically tiring.

fluffandnonsense Mon 24-Jun-13 12:07:49

Hi everyone! I was on the last thread but lost track of everything. I had a missed miscarriage in April at 14 weeks when baby had died at 6.

Had my BFP few weeks ago straight after the MC and now according to my dates I'm either 8 or 9 weeks but can't be sure because it was straight off the back of the MC. I went out and bought a ClearBlue conception indicator earlier and it gave a 3+ result but I didnt realise it doesn't go any higher than that so wont give me an accurate result (doh!)

Is it worth getting another one do you think? I'm waiting patiently for an early scan from the doctors but my doc is being an ass and decided to write off for an appt instead of just booking one over the phone for me.

IBelieveInPink Mon 24-Jun-13 12:23:09

Shell - got the pram in 'cole' (bluey silver colour). Is so lovely.
Also got the mamami Shivali. It was half price, I wouldn't normally have gone for designer! But it's amazing. smile

Bodicea Mon 24-Jun-13 12:39:00

Fluff congratulations on your pregnancy xxx
mean pregnancy test? Don't think it's worth getting another now as it won't tell you anything different. I would wait for the scan xx

Pink what's one of those - shivali? Sounds exciting!

IBelieveInPink Mon 24-Jun-13 12:59:44

Ooh pretty!!

Bodicea Mon 24-Jun-13 13:31:10

Ooh where did you get on sale? Been looking at changing bags but all been either hideous and too obviously a changing bag or ridiculously expensive!

PurplePest Mon 24-Jun-13 13:41:28


Can I join you all? I don't get on here a huge amount but may well get addicted...

I am pregnant again after two MMC's. I got a BFP on Father's Day so my DP got a super extra pressie! So excited but so worried too. I have a DD aged 5.

Not sure of my due date (mid February) as periods have always been irregular and not sure my body had recovered fully from the MMC in February 2013.

IBelieveInPink Mon 24-Jun-13 14:37:52

Bod - John Lewis smile I love John Lewis. Im not sure if they have any silvers left, but they had more in black. Ordered online.

Purple - hello, and congratulations! What a nice fathers day present smile

Pentagon Mon 24-Jun-13 15:51:16

welcome fluff and purple (one of my favourite colourssmile) and congratulations!! fluff no point doing another test, I hope you get a scan soon to see how far along you are. purple I've also had 2 MMCs but not in a row - MMC, successful pregnancy, MMC, this pregnancy 21 weeks now - awful, aren't they? I sincerely hope all goes well this time, I know how scary the first trimester is after experiencing MMCs. I hope you get an early scan to see you through these first few weeks

shell don't worry, there's also days that I feel the baby a lot less than usual and I'm 2 weeks ahead of you! And the size of the bump doesn't matter but I understand why you're freaking out...scan doom! I hope this week flies by!

wow pink that's lovely! I struggled to find a changing bag that I liked last time but got this in the end which I love (and the matching cover for the baby's red book always attracts a lot of attention and comments)


Unfortunately it looks knackered now so I need to invest in a new one - I'll have a look at the John Lewis website, thanks for the recommendation!

Welcome fluff & congratssmile
I have done an insane thing & i have already purchased my pushchair, fecking crazy of me but oh well.
I have the babystyle oyster, and now i have it i'm regretting it and i have stuck it in the loft confused-don't know what possessed me i'm 12.4 weeks so i don't know why i had this rush to buy babystuff so soon and the sudden realisation has hit me that anything could go wrong thurs (NT)-jeez i need a fish slap!

GardenWorm Mon 24-Jun-13 16:05:06

I picked my due date to start maternity leave last time and will do the same again. If they come early so be it, if they come late I won't have wasted weeks before they arrive twiddling my thumbs. DD was 8 days late so it worked for me, I wanted to make sure the time I had off was spent with the baby rather than bored/killing time. Not sure the commuters on my train (or my colleagues) liked it though, but their panick ridden faces used to make me chuckle! If I feel rubbish earlier than due date i'll just go sick, that's what it's there for!

RJM17 Mon 24-Jun-13 16:13:11

Hi. Thought I would pop over as in need of some hand holding. Have had 2 previous mc's so this a very wanted pregnancy and I'm so happy I have gotten this far (19 weeks now) however I haven't been well the last few days, with serious stomach ache and diarhea and I've noticed that the baby has hardly moved in the last two days. So I'm now starting to panic that something is wrong with her following me being sick. I am going to the doctors this afternoon so hopefully they will say she is ok but just need some positive advice i think before I totally freak out!! X

Pentagon Mon 24-Jun-13 16:32:49

oh RJM17 sorry to hear you're worried. From the sounds of it, it's either a stomach bug or food poisoning (?) and neither should affect the baby. 19 weeks it's still too early to feel the baby consistently, it's probably a coincidence. I hope the doctor puts your mind at rest!

pumpkin wow! Respect! In all probability everything will be fine on Thursday, probably deep down you know all is OK and that's what prompted you to buy the pushchair!

garden it sounds like a good plan!

BumpKitty Mon 24-Jun-13 19:51:24

Hi RJM17 I had a very bad stomach at the beginning of June and I was on here worrying about it, everything I googled said a stomach bug wouldn't affect the baby but I had the same as you in that I couldn't feel the baby for ages (maybe 2 days) then I started getting wriggles again. I think the stomach cramps and gurgling hides the baby movements. I was about 18 weeks then but had been feeling the baby for a while before the bug.

Maternity leave - I went at 37 weeks with DD and had her at 41 weeks, I can't remember feeling bored in those 4 weeks! I was having really broken sleep by 37 weeks so work was just exhausting, I was full time then though and I only do 3 days a week now. I think I'll probably go around the 37/38 week mark again.

stitchinline Mon 24-Jun-13 21:15:21

Well today has been the toughest day but made it through with only a couple of wobbles. I think I am still in shock and just waiting to wake up from what feels like a very bad dream. Hoping they call nice and early tomorrow so I just know either way.
It had meant I'm very behind on my organising and packing as just can't concentrate.
Hope everyone is well and welcome to the newbies.
I went off at 30 weeks with dd - was early but right for me and i didn't get bored at all!

ChocolateCremeEggBag Mon 24-Jun-13 21:40:33

Hi Fluff and Purple - don't think it's worth doing another HPT even a CB one as it won't now tell you any more. It's tough waiting for a scan, I caved and had a private one at 9 weeks but they are £££

RMJ hoping you've already been reassured by the doctor - I had awful bouts of food poisining when pg with DS. But they really are good little parasites, taking all our good stuff and leaving the rubbish grin

Stitch - hope it's an early call too, and a good one. Hang in there!

I went off at 38 weeks with DS, he then came a week early. Planning on going at 36 weeks (mid Nov) this time. But may bring it forward depending on what work decide about coming back on 3 days a week. I think it's better to plan to leave later, then have the flex to leave earlier if you need to.

fluffandnonsense Mon 24-Jun-13 22:02:21

I've booked a private scan for Saturday. Felt sick every time I think of it since! confused

fluffandnonsense Mon 24-Jun-13 22:03:56

I finished about a month before both due dates with my two but one came early at 37 weeks and the other stuck around until 5 days overdue. In all honesty I was never bored during my time off it gave me time to sort out the house and get everything ready.

shellsocks Mon 24-Jun-13 23:54:22

Just a quickie before bed to say I second bump in that you should defo go see man of steel if you are worrying abt the baby kicking...it was so loud the baby kicked all the way thru! Good tonic for my brain during scan week smile

Hope you get the call early stitch x

ChocolateCremeEggBag Tue 25-Jun-13 06:19:19

Thinking of you today Stitch and praying it's good news.

Wishing you all the best today stitch, fx it's good news for you & your bubba-thinking of you today x

JanieLovesLuckySocks Tue 25-Jun-13 07:17:30

Good luck stitch, got everything crossed for you today xxxx

GardenWorm Tue 25-Jun-13 07:31:22

Hey Stitch hope there was some sleep last night and that you get an early call (can you call them?), thinking of you and sending a big bear hug of strength X

BlackholesAndRevelations Tue 25-Jun-13 07:32:38

Thinking of you today stitch, really hoping it's good news xxxx

andadietcoke Tue 25-Jun-13 07:33:12

Good luck stitch I'll be thinking of you today xx

StarsInTheNightSky Tue 25-Jun-13 08:29:22

Stitch thinking of you and keeping everything crossed for good news for you. Hang in there xxx

Pink your pram is gorgeous! I love the colour grin your bag is beautiful too grin

Just catching up, DP and I get married this Saturday so have been trying to focus on doing wedding things for the past couple of days. Thank you all so much for your support, it's made me feel a lot better although I'm terrified this morning. Doesn't help that I haven't slept since 1 am and have been being sick on a very regular basis (I have hyperemesis). Time seems to be dragging, appointment isn't until 11:45am, I'm so terrified that there won't be anything on the scan. sad

IBelieveInPink Tue 25-Jun-13 08:53:14

Stitch and stars- thinking of you today and hoping for the happiest of outcomes for both.

I went to see superman last week! Baby had a wriggle then too, DH said it was probably all the hormones from fancying Henry cavil so much!! (HOT). I will now tell him that conclusive evidence says it was the noises smile and not me dribbling over hot Henry

StarsInTheNightSky Tue 25-Jun-13 08:57:40

Pink thank you.

That made me laugh so much! I'm dying to see it, was it good? as if it needs to be with Henry hotness

JanieLovesLuckySocks Tue 25-Jun-13 09:02:27

Oh stars I've got everything crossed for you too. No doubt the time will drag this morning, maybe do a seating plan for your wedding or something wedding related to pass the time (or watch lots of Henry cavil clips on YouTube) xxx

IBelieveInPink Tue 25-Jun-13 09:15:48

It was really good, it was a different twist on the superman story. I think it didn't help that i went on my scan day, so had had about 3 hours sleep the night before and was exhausted! But Henry got me through it.
<mooches off to google you tube clips>

BlackholesAndRevelations Tue 25-Jun-13 09:20:30

Oh good luck stars too xxx

JanieLovesLuckySocks Tue 25-Jun-13 09:24:57

I hear he's the favourite to play Christian grey in the 50 shades movies wink (yes I did read all three books and yes I will go to see the movies ha! There I admitted it!)

StarsInTheNightSky Tue 25-Jun-13 09:25:32

Janie thank you so much. I'm wrapping up my bridesmaids' presents at the moment, love the idea about YouTube though grin races off to YouTube How's your breakdancer doing? grin

Pink it does look brilliant, think I'll have to go and see it, I haven't been to the cinema for ages. Good old Henry for helping with the exhaustion wink

Shell I meant to ask how your The Voice and Johnny Depp marathon went? grin

Blackholes thank you so much.

Getting a bit freaked out as I've just phoned the EPAU and they said it will be an internal scan. I've got PTSD from years ago and haven't ever been able to cope with a smear test before, sorry, that makes me sound like such a wet blanket. Still, in a way I'm glad as hopefully they'll be able to see more clearly, won't they? I've never had an internal before. Anyway, I'm gritting my teeth and putting up with it.

WillSantaComeAgain Tue 25-Jun-13 09:30:00

Morning all - sorry, I've been busy for a few days (and sitting in an open plan office where I daren't log on to MN) so just catching up.

Welcome to all the newbies, though sorry its not smooth sailing for some of you. As many others have said, we're all mad here, and I find it reassuring to know that I'm not the only one who is slightly insane.

stars and stitch - good luck today, thinking of you both.

jess - hope you're not too bored. Try to think of it more as a rest than an incarceration, (easier said than done, I know)

Fluff - hope you get an early scan soon. My HCP friend got one because of not knowing her dates (she was bf at the time). But as others have said, no point doing any more POAS now.

I've also had two MMCs purple - they're shit in every possible way and don't half make for a worry about your pregnancy. But hopefully this one will work. Remember that two mmcs is just almost certainly just a coincidence (albeit a crap one) so statistically this one is almost as likely to work out as any other pregnancy.

I'm another one who is pigging out for Britain. Got weighed on Friday at the scan/bloods and I've put on a stone. A whole frigging stone. And my DH had the balls to look at the weight and say "oh, well that makes me feel better". I nearly smacked him and still haven't forgiven him. My only excuse is that my boobs probably weigh 5lbs extra each now - another 4 cup increase in a month. I look like Jordan now grin (though actually, I hate it sad).

I'm in two minds about Mat Leave. As EDD is just after Christmas, it might be nice to have some time off, but then the run up to Christmas can be fun. (It can also be hell, as soooooo many people decide their deals need to be signed by the end of the year, for absolutely no good reason).

Still struggling emotionally with this pregnancy. We've started telling a select few, and if anyone gets too excited it makes me cry. It seems wrong to say "congratulations" when I've done nothing. I have no control over getting (or staying) pregnant, so why congratulate me? Oh how I envy all those lucky ladies in the world who sail through ttc and pg without ever discovering the world of torment and stress that is infertility and/or mc misery.

IBelieveInPink Tue 25-Jun-13 09:31:04

Janie - omfg. He would be perfect as Christian Grey. Please tell me this is true.

Pentagon Tue 25-Jun-13 09:32:22

stitch and stars all the best for today - I hope you both have good news!

And stars you're getting married on Saturday?! How exciting!

Goodluck stars for your scan today and congrats on your upcoming wedding, how exciting smile

StarsInTheNightSky Tue 25-Jun-13 10:17:39

Santa really sorry to hear you're struggling hope you're ok, another lady on here (sorry, can't remember who) once said that having an mc or mmc really robs the innocent joy out of being pregnant again, and I think she was right about that. The more time goes on, I'm sure you'll start feeling a bit better.

Thanks all, I really do appreciate the hand holding. I'm now about to leave for the EPAU.

Yep - after nearly two years of planning, our wedding is this Saturday grin I can't wait! grin grin grin

PurplePest Tue 25-Jun-13 10:22:04


I'm loving this thread! Am trying to stay away though as have so much work to do but would much rather be reading this!

pink my DP was so chuffed when I thrust the BPF in his hands!

pentagon yes MC's and MMC's are awful...I keep thinking 'third time lucky'...trying to relax this time as I was so worried during my last pregnancy as I was still emotionally recovering from the first MMC.

RJM17 hope all goes OK today at the docs...

fluff I know what you mean re scans. The thought of my next one fills me with worry and fear as I don't associate them with good things anymore. Just bad news and tears...are you a little bit excited yet?

stitch and stars thinking of you both...

I went off two weeks before my DD was due and had a lovely two weeks off...I was in labour on her due date and she popped out the following day so that was great! If all goes well with this pregnancy I'll probably do the same...

PurplePest Tue 25-Jun-13 10:28:16

santa hello!

Your words hit home for me, they really did. Everything you said I feel too! And stars your comment re robbing the innocent joy out of being pregnant is spot on. I remember being pregnant with my DD (now 5) and loving every minute. Although there were all the normal worries associated with it being my first pregnancy etc I still relaxed a lot and didn't think of all the things that could go wrong. Now, it's so different. Sometimes, I have a fleeting moment where I am overjoyed and excited and then I remember my two baby boys and how much pain I felt - and still feel - over losing them...

Lots and lots of positive, happy, sunny thoughts today!

jmf294 Tue 25-Jun-13 10:30:19

Thinking of you both today Stitch and Stars!!
Will catch up later when I am in a computer and not at work!

Morien Tue 25-Jun-13 11:28:22

Hello ladies, can I join you? Got my BFP about 10 days ago, and an internal scan on Friday puts me at about 6.3 today. Had a MMC at almost 12 weeks last summer, the baby having died at about 9 weeks. I hadn't really realised how much of a shadow that would throw over a subsequent pregnancy sad I've had a read back over the thread, and it's comforting to see you all saying what I'm thinking - and also to see that it is possible to get beyond the first trimester!

My BFP was a surprise; although we'd been ttc since my MC, I was recently told I was unlikely to conceive naturally because of my age (40), and we'd been referred for fertility treatment, which we were due to start next cycle. This is DC1 for me, although I have 3 wonderful DSCs.

PurplePest Tue 25-Jun-13 12:00:22

Hello Morien and congratulations! Your stats sounds similar to mine...

LuckySocks13 Tue 25-Jun-13 12:13:58

Thinking of you today Stitch and stars.
Welcome to the new comers. Nice to have some new recruits its just a shame that we join this thread after such sad circumstances. The support I have found here is wonderful.

I'm having a bit of a worry day. Still not felt baby move at 18.3 weeks, got bashed in the stomach yesterday and having stomach pains almost like its bruised. Think going to have a Dopple later but an worrying in case can't find heart beat and something wrong.
Janie I so read all 3 books and will totally agree on Hot Henry blush wink

stitchinline Tue 25-Jun-13 15:35:06

Thanks for the lovely thoughts, sadly results have confirmed what we expected. The baby ( a little boy) has down syndrome. Not quite sure where to go from here but I know we'll find the right path for us.

andadietcoke Tue 25-Jun-13 15:43:25

Oh stitch I'm sorry it wasn't the news you were hoping for. Whatever you decide, and wherever this takes you, take comfort from it being the right decision for you, and for him - only you can know what is right for you and for your future. If you do need external advice then the antenatal choices boards are full of good advice, but you do what's right for you and what your gut tells you to do first and foremost.

Lots of love xxx

GardenWorm Tue 25-Jun-13 15:54:13

Oh Stitch it's such a difficult position to be in. My niece has downs and is amazing. My sister didn't have the tests so was never in the place you are in now. You can only do what you feel is right for you and your family xxxx

Sorry to hear the day has bought you unexpected news stitch, thinking of you and i wish you well with whatever outcome you decide xx

shellsocks Tue 25-Jun-13 16:00:59

stitch I'm so sorry that the news wasn't what you were hoping for. Whatever you decide will be the best for your family and I'm wishing you the strength to get thru this together x

Pentagon Tue 25-Jun-13 16:05:46

stitch I'm really sorry it wasn't the news you (or any of us) were hoping for...It is a difficult decision to make but I'm sure you will make the right one for you and your family. My nephew has downs; my sister-in-law did have the tests, her result wasn't low-risk but quite close, she wasn't told the exact figure though, didn't inquire either and only found out about the trisomy at birth. As a result, it was a big shock to her - at least you know and can make a decision/be prepared either way. Big hugs xx

JanieLovesLuckySocks Tue 25-Jun-13 16:16:49

Aw stitch I'm sorry your worries were confirmed. As everyone has said, whatever choice you make is the right one for you and your family. We are all here for you if you need us. thanks

fluffandnonsense Tue 25-Jun-13 16:20:05

Stitch this news must come as a huge shock to you all. Whatever choice you make everyone will be here to support you xxx

fluffandnonsense Tue 25-Jun-13 16:21:58

Good luck stars. Try and relax of you can, I had an internal at the last scan and it wasn't too bad. Xx

IBelieveInPink Tue 25-Jun-13 16:37:41

Thinking of you stitch. I hope you have lots of support and help around you to help you through. Xx

BumpKitty Tue 25-Jun-13 16:44:09

Oh stitch I'm so sorry you are in this position. As I'm sure you know, there are huge variations in the general health and the development of people who have Down's. Can the doctors tell you anymore about the severity of your baby's condition? I think I'd want as much information as they could give me to make the choice. You have all our support in whatever decision you make xx

hello purple, fluff and stars

StarsInTheNightSky Tue 25-Jun-13 17:13:39

Stitch I'm so sorry to hear that is wasn't good news, thinking of you and sending hugs and 100% support whatever you decide xx

Morien, welcome and congratulations.

fluff, thank you, it wasn't that bad, and the doctor was really nice which helped a lot.

Well the scan showed that I'm actually 5-6 weeks instead of 8 (which I suspected as I was charting and taking temps etc so thought I ovulated much later, but midwife and GP dismissed). There was a gestational sac (no yolk yet) which the doctor said was looking "perfect". She said that it has implanted in an ideal location, it was very secure and showing no signs of coming away and there are no abnormalites at all. Apparently it's a very "smooth and good sized sac".
That's good isn't it? confused She did say that it was exactly what she expected to see in a healthy pregnancy of 5-6 weeks and said that as far as she was concerned everything was looking "very positive and textbook" but that she would do another scan in exactly two weeks to reassure me as she said she was confident that she could show me a baby and a heartbeat then.
She said that she felt confident that everything would be fine and the bleeding was just a teeny burst blood vessel from either coughing too much (I've had a chest infection for the past couple of weeks) or TMI from the bad constipation as apparently any kind of strain can burst blood vessels blush. So I am cautiously relieved. The doctor just seemed to be so certain that everything would be fine and it made me suspicious how she could be so sure. Thanks again everyone for your support, it really helped.

IBelieveInPink Tue 25-Jun-13 17:28:20

Aw stars that's fab news! All sounds good to me! Now you can enjoy the wedding this weekend and really celebrate. I know, long way to go yet, but remember 'today you are pregnant' and everything looks good smile

StarsInTheNightSky Tue 25-Jun-13 17:33:52

Pink thank you so much smile it is really nice to be able to relax a bit, and that's a great way of thinking about it, think I might put it on post-its all around the house grin

JanieLovesLuckySocks Tue 25-Jun-13 17:41:23

Aw stars that's brilliant news! The doctor sounds great! I wish they were all so lovely!! So glad you'll be able to relax on your wedding day (as much as you can as the bride!!) Yippeee!!

andadietcoke Tue 25-Jun-13 17:56:19

stars that sounds like good news to me, and with the wedding, the two weeks to the next scan will go really quickly. Congratulations!

I've had an eventful day - felt like crap the last few days and started throwing up yesterday whenever I coughed. Went in this morning to have my BP checked as a follow up to last week and ended up being admitted to treat dehydration and for monitoring. So today I got doppled, and put on a CTG scan - that half an hour was the calmest I've been since my last scan!! Their heartbeats were normal, so they weren't affected by my dehydration. I was discharged after about 5 hours, and seem to be a bit better - just have to try and keep some fluids down.

In other news (drumroll) I may have made some purchases. Well, not me, obviously, that would be silly wink but my Mum has bought two cots and mattresses in the M&P sale. They're being delivered to my parents' so I don't even have to have them in the house. So my babies will at least have somewhere to sleep!

PurplePest Tue 25-Jun-13 17:57:29

stars that's great! So glad today went OK. And you can relax a bit...

hello bump!

PurplePest Tue 25-Jun-13 18:04:17

stitch I am thinking of you lots today...much love to you. I know how're you're feeling as I have been in the same position. Please keep talking...huge hugs xxx

BlackholesAndRevelations Tue 25-Jun-13 18:20:12

Stitch... Wishing you lots of strength to help you at this sad and uncertain time, and thinking of you lots xxx

IBelieveInPink Tue 25-Jun-13 18:20:52

Diet!! Well done you!! Obviously sorry you have had to be in hospital, but buying (or allowing someone else to buy!) fab smile
Are you pleased? Are you so excited you might shop some more? smile

BlackholesAndRevelations Tue 25-Jun-13 18:20:55

Great news stars, pleased to hear all looks ok! grin

Happy wedding day!!

BlackholesAndRevelations Tue 25-Jun-13 18:24:34

Anda- hope you're feeling much better now, and great news about the cots!!

jessw25 Tue 25-Jun-13 18:33:03

Stitch - really thinking of you at the moment and wishing you strength and support at this time. Massive hugs and love x

Pentagon Tue 25-Jun-13 18:54:24

stars fabulous news! And the doctor who scanned you sounds absolutely lovely! Now you can relax and enjoy your wedding day - yay!

morien welcome and congratulations! Great news about your early scan, I guess you saw the heartbeat at 6.3 weeks! I hope you're feeling OK and not too stressed out!

RJM17 how did your appointment go yesterday?

santa your Jordan comment made me chuckle grin

anda sorry you had a stressful day but glad everything is OK and you were reassured by the CTG scan! And hooray for the cots, how exciting!!

GaryBuseysTeeth Tue 25-Jun-13 19:11:45

Epic post warning;

Stitch, I'm sorry your results were as feared. Holding your hand & here for you as you need it, and whatever you decide. It's so unfair you should find yourself in this position & I hope you've got some fantastic RL support & the medical bods are helpful and kind. flowers

Late welcome & congrats to stars (well done on your perfect sac today & eek! at getting married, congrats!), Morien (how fab that you got your bfp just before fertility treatment), Pinkfizz, Jess, purple and fluff. Phew!
RJM, hope all went well at the Drs?

anda, hope you manage to keep some fluids down, glad everything was ok & hurrah for other people buying stuff!

Lucky, hope your Dopplering is reassuring.

Santa, my head hurts from nodding so much in agreement over everything you said.
MIL is one of those terribly excited people who would talk about nothing but this baby, what it will look like, where it will go to school etc and I feel like an arse telling her to STFU (in a nice way) and not talk about it to me until I'm holding the baby.

SAHM here so no need to worry about maternity leave, in awe of any woman who can work right up until EDD...I'd probably be off now, I feel so rubbish!
33+3 today and thankfully DS has been a little angel so far this week <touches all the wood>.

Morien Tue 25-Jun-13 19:12:47

Thanks for the warm welcome, everyone!

stars that's exactly what happened to me - going by LMP I'd be over 8 weeks, but I didn't think that was likely, and an internal scan on Friday put me at about 6 weeks. (And we're about to get married too! Not quite as soon as you - 3rd Aug). And yes, Pentagon, I saw the heartbeat smile

stitch very sorry to hear your news. What a difficult decision to make.

StarsInTheNightSky Tue 25-Jun-13 19:46:33

Janie thank you!! grin Yep, now, if only guests would behave...latest from my grandmother "I'm going to go into the bearest two after the church as I want a cappuccino and your reception venue won't do them how I like, I'll try not to hold the reception up too much so you won't all be waiting long, and then when I get there we can start the reception". I kid you not shock. Plus, it's a tiny village church and the nearest town is in the opposite drection from the reception venue. This was said to my Mum who promptly told her to naff off. Rant over!

Anda thank you so much! Really glad to hear you're feeling a bit better after a hideous few days. Great news about the purchases too grin

Purple thank you! It does suck out the joy doesn't it, one fo my friends is pg for the first time and is currently 10 weeks with absolutely no symptoms, stomach flat as a board and not at all worried. I haven't said anything as I'm sure she'll be fine but if my symptoms even have a slight lull I'm panicking. Still, happy thoughts as you very rightly say. How are you doing?

Blackholes thank you! I can't wait, getting very excited now grin

Pentagon thanks! She was amazing, so patient and kind. I hadn't even sat down when I burst out sobbing but she made me feel so much better and said I could look at the ultrasound on the screen for as long as I want and ask as many questions as I wanted. It was a very refreshing change from the other doctors I've had. smile

Gary thank you!!! Sorry to hear you're feeling so rubbish, hoping that you DS stays an angel and that you feel at least a bit better soon.

Morien in that case congratulations to you too! 3rd Aug will be here in no time, do you have much left to do? Brilliant news that you saw the heartbeat grin

StarsInTheNightSky Tue 25-Jun-13 19:48:23

That quote from my grandmother was meant to say "nearest town" not "bearest two" oops! blush

BlackholesAndRevelations Tue 25-Jun-13 21:08:37

Wow! I'm gobsmacked at your grandmother, stars! Eek!

Sorry forgot to say welcome to morien and congrats on your wedding!

What's SAHM really like, Santa?! It's a very real option for me. Problem is I now have a part time teaching contract (valuable!) in a school where I feel I no longer fit sad I always read the debates on here re: SAHM and my head tells me I'd be stupid to give up my job but... I just don't think it's what I want anymore! Anyway cost of childcare for three might make it not worth my while so decision might be made! So so difficult.

Hope you're bearing up, stitch flowers im sure it doesn't help but I've worked in sen schools with many many children with downs- they are amazing. Not sure how I'd feel if I was in your position (haven't received the letter yet re: nt but guessing/hoping if it wasn't good news I'd know by now?!) so can only offer support and handholding xx

BlackholesAndRevelations Tue 25-Jun-13 21:10:41

Just to clarify, I mean my own head in a head vs heart scenario, not my headteacher, who'd probably be pleased to see me go as it'd mean she could employ a cheaper, full time teacher instead of expensive part timer!

StarsInTheNightSky Tue 25-Jun-13 21:27:05

Blackholes yep, she is something else shock that's just one in along line of many episodes! Good job I just laugh about it. grin

JanieLovesLuckySocks Tue 25-Jun-13 21:40:17

hi morien sorry i totally missed your arrival to the gang. congrats on your bfp!! what amazing timing smile hope you are feeling well!!

stars that is so funny / shocking about your granny! we had plenty of eldery opinions about our wedding last year - one of my mums friends said she would be offended if we didn't ask her to make a fruit cake. er..i wanted chocolate cake love so na ah!

so i'm just back from my first class of pg yoga! was very relaxing except when i started giggling...we had so hummmmm the 5 vowels through our vajayjays ha!! cue giggles from the immature one in the corner! then tense our back passages before releasing them. thank god i didn't know anyone else there or we would have been in proper hysterics!!

DIYandEatCake Tue 25-Jun-13 22:48:39

Oh stitch I'm so sorry you've got extra worries now, wishing you all the best flowers.

stars that sounds promising and such a lovely doctor too.

Welcome everyone new, sorry struggling to keep up as snatching a few minutes on phone on holiday.

janie OMG I am never going to pg yoga then, the proper kind made me giggle...!

anda hope you feel much better soon and are managing to get lots of rest. gary hope you're getting some rest too, wow you're nearly there!

I'm a sahm and have never regretted it. Finances are tight but we're getting by, and I feel very lucky to be able to spend so much time with dd. I was never very career minded though so that's a factor.

Pentagon Tue 25-Jun-13 22:48:56

morien you're getting married too - how wonderful!

stars your grandmother sounds like a real character wink what a funny thing to say!

black it's difficult to know what's the best thing to do - I guess you can decide towards the end of your maternity leave depending on how you feel then.

janie - pg yoga class, how cool! Relaxing and entertaining, what more could you ask for? grin

Just watching "one born every minute" and there's this woman whose last baby got stuck during delivery (thankfully both baby and mum were fine - still not the best thing to watch at the moment!) and then had her new baby via CS - I got sooooooooooo emotional, sobbing and all - thankfully DH is next door and did not witness my ridiculous reaction!

ChocolateCremeEggBag Tue 25-Jun-13 22:59:28

stitch - I'm sorry it's not the news you wanted to hear. It's a very big decision either way, hope you are able to make it together with DP and not get pushed in any direction by anyone else. It's your family at the end of the day. Feeling for you right now.

Stars - your Granny reminds me of mine at my wedding - which was in a marquee in her garden. She kept referring to the whole thing as her party and worrying about where she would serve lunch before the service (she was 97 and wasn't really up to making tea and toast by then) got to a point two days before when she threatened to cancel the whole thing! DH shouted at her (good job she is very deaf) and I was in floods. Took my aunt giving her some very stern words to sort it all out! So glad you have good news running up to your big day though!

Welcome Morien - love your name where is it from?

Jess how are you managing? Have you started reading any Mills and boon from the hospital library yet?

Just noticed the new tennis icon grin I am sucker for them!

ChocolateCremeEggBag Tue 25-Jun-13 23:03:33

Step away from OBEM Pentagon !!!!

You know they only show the "exciting" or noisy births. Plenty of boring in and squeeze it out quickly stories which never make the cut!

When I got to 32 weeks with DS I got obsessed reading birth stories of the "Due in" months ahead of me - they were all so different that I freaked my self out at all the different ways it could happen. Very odd to not be in control of how and when it will all happen (unless you are ELCS)

Bodicea Tue 25-Jun-13 23:47:45

Wow I go offline for like a day and can't keep up. So epic post now.

I am so sorry you are in this predicament stitch. I hope you do what's right for you and your dp. Don't let friends/ families opinions push you one way or another as no one can really say what they would do until they are in that position. Thinking of you xxxx

Welcome to all the recent additions. I think a few of you had two mc's in a row like me. It sucks! But today we are pregnant.

Went for a swim today. Think that will be my new thing for a while. Quite enjoyed it. Just can't take the gym anymore and Zumba was tough on sat although might give that a few more goes.

Also went for a sports massage which was an epic fail. I normally go every couple of months to sort out my shoulders which are wrecked from scanning. Hadn't been since BFP but feeling the familiar pain so booked in to find woman i normally go to had left and the special chair they promised was just a little stool they expected my to crouch over on to side of bed. I looked like i was sqatting! It was ridiculous especially when I went flying back trying to get comfy. Needless to say I declined the massage. So now have to find some sort of pregnancy specialist who will prob cost a fortune ! Rant over

On a light hearted note have started playing classic fm on full blast on way to work in car to entertain my bump and help its development and all that rubbish. Think it likes it as started kicking when tango came on xxx

andadietcoke Wed 26-Jun-13 07:41:40

bod I wound DH up last night 'stressing' that we'd neglected the babies' because we hasn't bought a £99 prenatal education set. Have no idea what it does but I think you strap it to you! My poor children - potentially born in August, and no prenatal education to speak of grin

ChocolateCremeEggBag Wed 26-Jun-13 08:05:19

Anda - prenatal education? What is that then? grin
Clearly I have ruined DS's life as he didn't have any. We didn't do Baby Einstein or Baby Mozart either fail fail fail

andadietcoke Wed 26-Jun-13 08:17:37

Just because I don't want you to miss out this time chocolate... www.babyplus.com/ - is it bad that I look at the website, and my main objection to it (after the price and the sheer bollocks of it) is that it looks like a bum bag?!

JanieLovesLuckySocks Wed 26-Jun-13 08:27:03

Prenatal education?! So er from reading the description it 'resembles mothers heartbeat throughout the pregnancy?!?!?! I have my own heartbeat, surely I don't need to buy a bumbag that sounds like me!!

andadietcoke Wed 26-Jun-13 08:35:10

But Janie I think you're being short sighted. It's a 'curriculum'.


Oh god, it's just occurred to me that someone might have one of these. I'm really sorry if it's caused you any offence - it's just very not for me.

Bodicea Wed 26-Jun-13 08:50:35

Lol diet am I not doing enough just playing loud music? Do I need to get special bump speakers too!!?. I was watching child genius and one of the mums of the v clever kids said she ate a tin of sardines every day when she was pg. unfortunately am not a fan so think will stick to omega 3 supplements although am a bit lax on taking them as give nasty after burp!
Hope you Se feeling better today diet xxxx

BlackholesAndRevelations Wed 26-Jun-13 09:05:07

Yes yes the fishy after burps!! I've stopped taking mh pregnacare as they were making me really constipated- sorry tmi!

Prenatal education... Yes I am certainly an advocate. Used it with both of my other children and will be using it this time. Don't you people want to give your babies the very best?


WillSantaComeAgain Wed 26-Jun-13 10:14:15

blackholes - not me whose a SAHM. I went back full time after a full year's ML.

I always thought I wanted to be a SAHM, so coming back to work at all was something I was a bit angry about. However, in all honesty, I am happier now than when I was on ML blush. I miss DC masses and it breaks my heart that I don't get to see her all the time, but I know that if I was at home with her full time, I'd start getting bored and resentful. Personally, I think it takes a certain type to enjoy being a SAHM. I think you need plenty of self-motivation and creativity to make the most out of it, and also need a fair amount of social confidence to ensure you do speak to other adults. I used to dread mother and baby groups and sit in them feeling awful because I never had the courage to make friends with strangers, and I even struggled to have the courage to arrange meetings with friends of mine - so became very isolated and lonely. Which, if you met me at work, you wouldn't believe because I'm gregarious, popular (I think!!!grin) and outgoing.

I would probably have preferred part time, but due to the precariousness of DH's job, decided it wasn't worth the risk. Plus I get full time maternity pay. (And also, I'm in the sort of job where four days work just means 80% pay for a full time job).

Just found out that DC's best friend has the pox. Arrrrrrrrgggggghhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!! Not only do I not know if I'm immune (Mum can't remember if I had it) but also we have NO back up childcare, and I can't take leave from work as the other person who does the same job is on holiday. DH seeing what he can do, but oh, the stress and panic.

GaryBuseysTeeth Wed 26-Jun-13 10:57:34

I spend my evenings reading Shakespeare in Latin to my stomach, it's what any decent mother-to-be does, right?
<shakes head & pities the slatterns>
Just told DH about babyplus, I don't think he's a fan...

Santa, hope you manage to avoid catching the pox.

I'm a SAHM partly through choice, partly as childcare if you're a shiftworker is bloody expensive. I love it and wouldn't have it any other way, but sometimes the days do sort of morph into one!
I have been feeling slightly guilty that DS is missing out atm because I'm so limited on what I can do thanks to the aches & pains of pregnancy.

WillSantaComeAgain Wed 26-Jun-13 11:08:19

Shakespeare in Latin?? Pah! Dostoyevsky in the original for my DC.

IBelieveInPink Wed 26-Jun-13 11:27:40

Wow. My poor unborn daughter. All she has for her prenatal education is Bon Jovi and hollyoaks. She will clearly be a chavvy tramp with excellent music taste ;)

PurplePest Wed 26-Jun-13 12:17:57

Hello all!

Hope everyone is well this morning.

anda glad all is OK and woo hoo for your cot purchases.

Gary hello! Hope you're feeling a bit better today.

stars I had to laugh at the comment re your grandmother...she sounds like a character!
I'm well today. I do feel sorry for my DP though as I seem to turn into the women from hell when I'm around him! I had a lovely day by myself yesterday working from home but the minute he came through the door, he asked me a reasonable question, and all hell broke loose in my head...grrrrr...I had my first 'gag' moment this morning so maybe other symptoms are kicking in now. And some pins and needles in my hands and arms last night...carpel tunnel perhaps? Hope not!
Had a moment last night (big time insomnia at the moment and spending lots of waking time in bed!) thinking all sorts - chemical pregnancy, panicking about the scan next week...etc...my thoughts seem to be fine during the day but something happens in the evenings.

janie ha re pg yoga...if all goes well I may well try it!

bodicea loving classic fm! I too saw Child Genius and the sardine mummy. Ha Ha re fishy burps!

pink my bump will be subjected to Corrie and Easties...poor bean!

stitch still in my thoughts lots. Don't let anyone influence you and your DP. It's a difficult time and I know I locked off for a few days before I could do anything - and then I researched as much as I could and talked to as many people as I could. Both me and my DP spoke to ARC and we both found it beneficial. We also spoke to someone from the Down's charity helpline. Big, big hugs for you...

jessw25 Wed 26-Jun-13 12:18:52

Oh dear, all mine is getting in terms of prenatal education
here on the ward is copious amounts of CSI, Frasier and Poirot box sets!

Cremeeggs - yep all fine here thanks. Am just watching a lot of DVDs and reading lots of John Grisham on my new friend, mr kindle. Tiny bleed middle of night on Mon so I sulked all yesterday because they wouldn't let me get up and walk around except to the loo (which felt like a treat!) but feel better today as, if my placenta holds out, cesarean is two weeks today,yay! Although the short term goal is to get to this Sun as I'm officially full term at 37 weeks then.

Hope you're all making the most of the sunshine for me you lovely ladies :-) x

jessw25 Wed 26-Jun-13 12:23:53

P.S purple Sorry about the nighttime worries. Know exactly what you mean, it seems easier to be positive during the day doesn't it. What day is the scan next week?

My poor bean has Peter Andre's my life and various soaps ranging from emmerdale to hollyoaks to put up with, and snoop dogg for music-Oh gosh my poor beangrin

PurplePest Wed 26-Jun-13 12:55:15

Thank you jess! Scan is next Tuesday afternoon...one hurdle at a time hey? hmm

Yay for your new friend Mr Kindle! And here's hoping you reach your short-term goal of Sunday...

pumpkin nothing wrong with some soap drama and snoop! gringrin

WhatWillSantaBring Wed 26-Jun-13 12:57:34

By the way, I now have a new (well, old) nickname. It was the one I used when pg with DC1 who was due on Christmas Eve. As this one is due just after Christmas, I thought it was rather apt. Also, I'm trying to be have more posifricitivity and this is a more positive name rather than the slightly self-pitying "will Santa EVER come again?".

If one person so much hints at it being funny that I'm having another Christmas baby, I'll smack them. Because my other babies were due in Feb and Sept respectively, so this was not a choice I would have chosen!!

Pentagon Wed 26-Jun-13 13:31:46

santa I think it's lovely to have your birthday around Christmas time! Everyone is happy, off school/work and celebrating! My birthday is in January and I wish I had been born at the end of December instead...Everyone is on a diet in January with no money left and tired from eating/drinking too much but if I look at it from a different perspective, it's something to look forward to after the holidays, an excuse to celebrate, the sales are on...anyway, most people I know complain about their birthday (be in August- everyone is on holiday - April - too close to Easter etc) - the grass is always greener...I guess you can find positives and negatives in every situation and birthdays are no different smile

Pentagon Wed 26-Jun-13 13:33:04

ooops, meant to say fed up with eating/drinking too much!

PurplePest Wed 26-Jun-13 13:48:11

santa yay for the new (old) nickname!

ChocolateCremeEggBag Wed 26-Jun-13 13:50:48

O. M. G.

Just been reading the Baby plus bumf grin are they for real?

My bump is treated to the loving daily sounds of me singing baby in the car, shouting at the dog and watching vv educational Peppa, ben&Holly and Fireman Sam with DS. There is no hope.

Having a shitty day at work (and working from home too which is no help) everyone has an issue today it seems - so bump is also treated to extra swear words today too

jessw25 Wed 26-Jun-13 13:55:36

Yeah Santa I like the new more positive nickname too!

Purple will be thinking of you on Tues and keeping everything crossed. We have a scan then too to check growth cos I am small for my weeks. Scan Tuesday!

GardenWorm Wed 26-Jun-13 15:39:51

Ooh scan Tuesday! Me and Bod (I think) are having our 20 week scans next Tuesday. YEY!

My lucky bump gets to hear me talk about dirty paedos and 'slag' and 'wrong uns' all day with swear words and rude innuendo thrown in to boot....think this may be why DD is a little bit naughty. Oops! Maybe I need to get into One Direction or something? (although that makes me sound a little bit questionable....)

Anda excellent you have made/not made a purchase grin

PurplePest Wed 26-Jun-13 16:41:01

Will be thinking of all you fellow scannees on Tuesday! xxx

shellsocks Wed 26-Jun-13 18:47:13

Great scan news stars and best wishes for Saturday....You can relax and enjoy now smile

anda hope you are looking after yourself now and taking it easy...and well done smile I'm quite proud of you grin

Welcome morien congrats on your BFP and you wedding! smile

Am laughing at the prenatal education! Some people must take this very seriously tho shock I did say after DS was born tho that he recognised a band that I listened to and went to see while PG so you never know wink lol pumpkin at Peter Andre grin and garden what do you do?!!

I would love to be a SAHM but we can't afford it, I work 3 days a week and DS is with my mum and it is a fantastic balance...we are all very happy smile

T-minus 2 days till scan, it's at 4pm too so gonna have a loooong Friday confused

Still thinking of you stitch x

Goodluck to all those on scan Tuesdaysmile, 20 weeks what an achievement cant wait to get there myself!
Have my NT tomorrow evening, will be nearly 13wks, feels like ages since my last scan & i hope everything is well, in truth i'm kacking myself-think it's time i gave myself a smelly fish slapgrin

I hope my baby doesn't turn into a chip shop, obsessed with salt & vinegar everything-Last night i ate 2 bags salt & vinegar snackajacks, half a bag of salt & vinegar twists & even had a small swig of malt vinegarshock, aswell as my normal staple of fizzy belts! All i feel like eating is acidic junk, real food isn't appetising although i'm still guzzling down my vege for baby sake, and fizzy drinks.
Blimey hope these cravings subside before i get to the heartburn stage or i'll be in for it!

JanieLovesLuckySocks Wed 26-Jun-13 23:15:02

Hey all, god I've had such a melter of a day, broke down in tears in work after taking loads of shit for a colleague who had bullshitted a customer and I was the one that had to deal with her crap after she left early. Just getting ready for bed and there's some brown blood in my pants (sorry if tmi). Now I'm in a total panic sad too scared to tell DH as he's got a mega important day tmro. There was nothing when I wiped, just on my pants...not sure what to do. 18+5 today and shitting it sad

Sorry for mememe post x

shellsocks Wed 26-Jun-13 23:28:47

Hey janie try and sleep tonight and call MW in the morning, it's probably nothing but hopefully they will reassure you...you're a very nice person keeping this to yourself for DHs sake smile

ChocolateCremeEggBag Wed 26-Jun-13 23:34:45

Janie - it's brown, don't worry. You've most likely burst a small blood vessel earlier in the day or yesterday and it's just coming out now.
Sounds patronising, but try to put it out of your mind.
I bet you have a bit more mucky gunk tomorrow once you are up and about and that it, but take it as a sign to rest and avoid stress
(work out ways to get your bullshitting colleague back instead)

I have spent the day trying to sort out last minute finance crap at work. It's our year end at the end of the week so clearly everything is a life or death super issue angry - so why they hell do I only find out about it all today grrrrr. I start feeling my blood pressure rise and have had to take the dog out several times through the day (she is on heat and desperate for sex so this is more trouble than it is worth). Must relax more!!

ChocolateCremeEggBag Thu 27-Jun-13 00:26:50

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BlackholesAndRevelations Thu 27-Jun-13 06:04:59

Janie, poor you. I agree a little brown blood sounds ok but definitely ring the midwife this morning. You don't need stress at work either, grr, stupid colleague! Hugs xx

GardenWorm Thu 27-Jun-13 06:16:42

Hey Janie how are things this morning? Remember brown is good. Hoping there is nothing more for you to report x

Shell I'm a Super Hero! Yeah right - I do a boring office job that just involves a lot of talk about some horrible people. I had forgotten it was your scan tomorrow - exciting! Am I right in that you are keeping this ones flavour a surprise?

Sorry can't remember name of our friend who is 'stuck' in hospital - Jess??? - how are you today? Hope the bleeding has stopped and you are allowed out of bed....I'd have drunk pint after pint of water if I was only allowed out for a wee!

Hope you are ok this morning janie hope your spotting has stopped?
Thinking of you x

LuckySocks13 Thu 27-Jun-13 07:13:02

Janie: phone the midwife today and see what they say. I k ow its hard not to panic as I have every time. Would like to say that I have had brown, pink and on one 2 occasions now red blood and touch wood all is ok. Would you be due a period around now?
Thinking of you Stich and sending love and strength.
Hope jess you are doing ok in hospital.
Hi to everyone else. It's been a few days since I posted. Being a bit of a worry wart. Think it's the scan coming up!

IBelieveInPink Thu 27-Jun-13 07:23:39

Morning all!

Janie you poor love. How are you? Did you sleep?

I totally just thought it was Friday. That's depressing.

andadietcoke Thu 27-Jun-13 07:28:35

janie massive hugs. Brown is good though - I was just past you when my last bout started. Do you have a phone number for maternity triage? I phoned them and they asked me to go in for a check - I had pain too though so you could always throw that in for good measure

Worth getting checked because I had it every day then until about 25w and that would drive you mad if you didn't know everything was okay.

One of the few times I'll suggest this, but google 'cervical ectropion' - they're really really common, cause no complications, and could be what you have. Mine is worse after over exertion or a big poo

Hope you get some reassurance from somewhere xx

jessw25 Thu 27-Jun-13 07:58:02

Aw Janie thinking of you and sorry you're having that stress :-( Agree with other ladies that its a good sign that its brown not red so fingers crossed your midwife or mat triage unit will reassure you. How is it this morn? Also, even though your partner's got lots on at work, I'm sure you'd feel better if you shared your concerns with him anyway?

Thanks Gardenworm and LuckySocks, yep it's settled down so been told this morn that I can stand up to
have a shower (yay!) and I can potter slowly down the ward again. No going down to the lobby for Costa coffee yet (boo!) but being allowed to even just wander down the corridor for a 'walk' will feel good today.

Pink I HATE it when that happens, gutted! It's nice when it happens the other way round though.

JanieLovesLuckySocks Thu 27-Jun-13 08:34:14

Thank you all so much, you're all so bloody lovely and thank god I've got you all. Thankfully no more spotting overnight or this morning so fx it was just a little blip and down to some stresses yesterday. I can feel my heart whacking away this morning so in sure my blood pressure is up a bit but I'm going to drink tea all day (decaf obv!) and not give a fuck about about shitty colleagues today in work. If I start feeling stressed I'm just going to ask to go home. If I notice anymore unwanted knicker spots then ill contact the midwife. Had a little dopple this morning and wee bambino seems to be ticking away and gave me a good couple of kicks. I'm picturing him/her tapping on my insides and waving out to let me know they're doing ok smile

Thank you again for being so nice xxx

shellsocks Thu 27-Jun-13 08:34:26

How are you janie? On the phone to the MW I hope and feeling reassured smile

choc do you work with me, it's our year end too but I'm a fee earner so trying to work like mad to get the bills out...was so busy yesterday I forgot to text to see how DS was shockhmm Went and had my hair done last night tho so that was good smile

garden damn was convinced you were Wonder Woman wink Yep, so far anyway might change our minds once in there tho!

lucky hope you're not stressing too much, when's the scan?

pink I wish it was Friday grin

jess enjoy your shower wink

Rockchick1984 Thu 27-Jun-13 11:05:08

Hi ladies, please can I dip a tentative toe into this thread? Currently 4+1 following a MMC at 12 weeks in April, I'm completely terrified but trying not to let the panic set in! Already got a 2 year old DS who is a fantastic distraction when I start worrying - chasing round after him means not a lot of thinking time grin

GaryBuseysTeeth Thu 27-Jun-13 12:09:14

Dostoyevsky is so 2nd trimester Santa. grin

Welcome Rock <waves like a maniac>

Janie, hope there's no more brown blood & you managed some sleep. Also, well done for not giving a shit about colleagues!
If you did Prenatal education, you could have a morse code conversation with baby wink

Choco, hope today is less shitty for you at work, and you manage to keep your harlot of a dog happy!

Jess, hurrah for a shower, enjoy your pottering.

PurplePest Thu 27-Jun-13 12:16:09

Hello all!

Welcome Rock!

janie glad there was no more spotting overnight or this morning.

jess enjoy that shower!

ChocolateCremeEggBag Thu 27-Jun-13 12:51:41

Hi Rock - welcome and congratulations on the BFP!

Shell - I work for a big multi national FMCG - in the employee accounting bit - so how we account for salaries and benefits across Europe ( well I do a wee bit of it) so maybe?

Sex obsessed dog is currently wandering around in the field next to our house while I am on iPad in garden (need a break).

Janie - good to hear no more brown this morning, but definitely come home if any more, sounds like you need the weekend already (don't we all)

GuffSmuggler Thu 27-Jun-13 13:27:31

Hi all, can I tentatively join you all too? Is nice to see some names from the TTC after MC thread and seems like lots of lovely hand holding going on here which is just what I need.

I've been on a similar journey to rock - I met her on the MC boards and then the conception TTC after MC thread - so I think it's only right I stalk her here too and we can finish this journey together grin

I have a 2 year old DS, have had 1MMC end March and just got a BFP 4+2.

I'm feeling remarkably calm at the moment, but it's like the news hasn't sunk in yet. Although I did see my lovely GP today who has requested a scan asap after 6 weeks, so hopefully I'll be able to get some reassurance in a few weeks.

IBelieveInPink Thu 27-Jun-13 13:36:49

Hi rock, and guff. Congratulations! Fab you have an understanding gp - mine was having none of that! Really good you will get the reassurance though.

I think we need an updated stats list with all these new faces! Will see if I can find the last one.....

IBelieveInPink Thu 27-Jun-13 13:46:13

Wow we chat A LOT! Right, found the last stats and tried to update a bit, here you go ladies....

GaryBuseysTeeth: 1DS, 1MC, EDD 10th Aug
Pentagon: 1 DD, 2MMCs, EDD 31st October
BumpKitty: 1MC, 1DD, EDD 9 Nov
Shellshock7: 2MC 1DS EDD 12 Nov next scan 28 June
Bodicea: 0DC, 2MC, EDD 16 Nov. next scan 2nd July
Ibelieveinpink: 2mc, EDD 16 Nov
GardenWorm: 1DC, 2MC, EDD 19th November, Next Scan 2nd July
Janielovesluckysocks: 1MC, 0DC, EDD 22 Nov, next scan 8th July
Lucky13: 1DS, 1 chemical, 2MC, EDD 23rd Nov
Vixjane: 2 MC, EDD 24 Nov, next scan 9th July
Vocalista86: 1 MMC, EDD 30 November. next scan 15th July
Jmf294: 1 DS, 1DD, 1 MC, EDD 10th Dec
ChocolateCremeEggbag: 1DS, 1MC, EDD 16 Dec, Next scan 26 July
DIYandEatCake: 1dd, 1mc, EDD ?16 dec
Booty: 1chemical EDD 19 Dec (Xmas baby!)
pumpkinsweetie mc1, edd:03/01/14,
Stitchinline: 2MC, 1DD, EDD 30 Dec
WillSantaComeAgain: 1DC, 2MMC, EDD 30 Dec

Pentagon Thu 27-Jun-13 15:55:36

welcome rock & guff and congratulations on your BFPs! Guff I also have a very sympathetic GP who referred me for an early scan that was a lifesaver! rock I hope you're getting one too!

janie glad everything is OK now. You can feel the baby move and you have doppled as well so I'm sure the brown blood is nothing to worry about!

thanks for the stats pink smile

Lieslvontrapp Thu 27-Jun-13 18:04:33

Congrats Rock and Guff! Nice to see more people graduate from the ttc after mc thread.

I'm now 7+1 and booked a private scan for 9+3 so not that long to wait and it should got quick as we go on holiday on Saturday. Been having mild period pains pretty much since bfp on and off - has any one else experienced that? Been having some nausea too.

stitch been thinking about you and really hope you a doing ok.

JanieLovesLuckySocks Thu 27-Jun-13 18:12:58

hi guff and rockchick smile congrats on your bfps!! i'm sure i recognise your names form the ttc threads. brilliant to see you here.

pink i hate the friday thought when it's not friday. nasty brains messing with us pah! but it's friday tomorrow thank fook!

jess hope you had a nice loooong hot shower and dilly dallied on the way back to bed.

choc i hope your dog got some ;)

pink thanks for the stats! only 11 more sleeps for me til next scan

thankfully no more spotting today, although work did turn yukky again this afternoon with lots of colleagues fighting (not with me) and a generally mega stress atmosphere all round. cue the cramps sad got some little throbby pains ...kind of at the top of my pubic bone, i'm not sure if its cramps or if babydude is karate kicking me in a very sensitive area. so i bit the bullet and called the midwife just to see what they thought... they just told me to keep an eye on things blah blah blah and asked what my blood group was? er i dunno and i also dunno why they asked that?! so basically if i'm still achey tomorrow then i'll call them and ask to be seen.

so i'm in my super comfies with my hair in a pineapple waiting for Dj to bring me dinner (this never happens) and when he goes out i'm having a bath and facemask night. might even watch a ryan gosling movie with my cat to cheer myself up. thanks again for all your messages xx

BlackholesAndRevelations Thu 27-Jun-13 18:16:39

Oh my gosh janie that sounds like an AMAAAAAAZING evening! I'm planning on going to bed sane time as my kids tonight!

Congrats and welcome guff and rock!

Stitch- hope you're ok xx

BlackholesAndRevelations Thu 27-Jun-13 18:26:49

Ps blood group might be in case you're rhesus negative? If so you need ant-d if you have a knock or bleed x

LuckySocks13 Thu 27-Jun-13 18:39:45

Janie as Black holes said above its because of the Rhesus Negative. I am that blood group and carry a medical card during pregnancy. I didn't have the anti D when I had a small amount of brown spotting but when I had a bigger bleed (Red / Pink) I did have the injection.

Welcome to Rock and Guff smile

My next scan is next week. Am worried as not felt the baby move yet!

JanieLovesLuckySocks Thu 27-Jun-13 18:40:11

ah that makes sense blackholes - thanks!

GuffSmuggler Thu 27-Jun-13 19:06:18

Thanks for the welcome everyone grin Have added myself to the list -

GaryBuseysTeeth: 1DS, 1MC, EDD 10th Aug
Pentagon: 1 DD, 2MMCs, EDD 31st October
BumpKitty: 1MC, 1DD, EDD 9 Nov
Shellshock7: 2MC 1DS EDD 12 Nov next scan 28 June
Bodicea: 0DC, 2MC, EDD 16 Nov. next scan 2nd July
Ibelieveinpink: 2mc, EDD 16 Nov
GardenWorm: 1DC, 2MC, EDD 19th November, Next Scan 2nd July
Janielovesluckysocks: 1MC, 0DC, EDD 22 Nov, next scan 8th July
Lucky13: 1DS, 1 chemical, 2MC, EDD 23rd Nov
Vixjane: 2 MC, EDD 24 Nov, next scan 9th July
Vocalista86: 1 MMC, EDD 30 November. next scan 15th July
Jmf294: 1 DS, 1DD, 1 MC, EDD 10th Dec
ChocolateCremeEggbag: 1DS, 1MC, EDD 16 Dec, Next scan 26 July
DIYandEatCake: 1dd, 1mc, EDD ?16 dec
Booty: 1chemical EDD 19 Dec (Xmas baby!)
pumpkinsweetie mc1, edd:03/01/14,
Stitchinline: 2MC, 1DD, EDD 30 Dec
WillSantaComeAgain: 1DC, 2MMC, EDD 30 Dec
GuffSmuggler: 1DS, 1MCC, EDD 4th March

Had my NT, got some lovely clear pics of bubba this time, measurments all fine and nt was 2.5, had my bloods done too. My dates are put back again though lol: now i'm due 05/01/14smile

Annoyed my Bmi is mentioned on my scan again though, considering measurments good and pictures clear can't see why the need to write about my maternal mass causing pictures to not be clear-lovely! Not

But anyway feeling positive today

jessw25 Thu 27-Jun-13 20:00:23

Hi Rock and Guff :-)

Pumpkin glad scan measurements were good and you got a nice picture to take away:-)

Thanks for stats Pink. I find it really heartwarming to see a list of so many brave ladies who've been through a loss/losses and who are on the road again. Although i'm far along now, i still think you worry more about everything (compared to women who havent miscarried) even right till the end of the pregnancy because of your previous loss - hence I'm still massively on edge and won't be convinced its ok till I actually hold my first child in my arms, hopefully.

Cos only have phone here in my hospital 'cell', pls could someone add me as I can't copy/paste? Although I'm due soon to be fair so maybe no point! But if you want to, it's 1 MMC, due July 10.

Love and strength to you all x

jessw25 Thu 27-Jun-13 21:41:47

Sorry, i got a bit deep then ooops! Stupid pregnancy hormones...

jmf294 Thu 27-Jun-13 22:13:30

Hi ladies, not been round much this week but still here!!

Jess- keep going, not long until baby will be here and every long boring hour you have spent in hospital will be so worth it. Have you got a kindle to keep you company, can highly recommend The Hunger Games.

Stitch- sorry to hear your news, hope you have all the support you need around you.

Welcome to our new ladies, here to hold your hands as I remember only too clearly how bloody scary the early weeks are.

I had my 16 week midwife appointment today- it was in the same room and with the same midwife that I saw the day I started MC last time. Bit it was ok, and I heard the baby's heartbeat.
Laughing about the antenatal education- my poor baby just hears me ranting about work, and dealing with 2 tired children. I am also feeing it lots of crisps- oh well. I feel pretty hideous with all the weight gain, wish I could eat better as I know it will be hard to shift afterwards!!

ChocolateCremeEggBag Thu 27-Jun-13 22:48:21

Janie - the dog most definitely did not get any today! Just one pg lady allowed in this house grin seriously though we got her when DS was 8weeks old, she was 20weeks and unhouse trained (and I was sleep deprived and easily talked into things -DH is a bad bad man)

So not doing puppies with her, in fact she is getting the snip after this cycle as the mess is really annoying (have been thinking whether a dog tampon would work? "Dog-pon"?)

Great Scan news Pumpkin, my nt was 2.5 too, just got the low risk letter through today.

And I caved and bought a Doppler which arrived today too, so have managed to find bumps HB

Jess - totally get how you feel, I sailed through being pg with DS never appreciating the lack of worry. That started as soon as they let us out of the hospital with him! With this one it's constant since before I had the BFPsad

Pentagon Thu 27-Jun-13 22:55:58

pumpkin" great news on the scan! And *jmf yay for listening to the heartbeat on your 16-week appointment!

jess you're almost there, how exciting! I second the Hunger Games suggestion if you get too bored. I read the trilogy during my first trimester and it was a great distraction (it helped me get through the difficult first few weeks)

shell all the best for you 20-week scan tomorrow! x

Pentagon Thu 27-Jun-13 23:04:39

sorry, too much bold font in my previous post! I messed it up a bit, didn't I?

choc I want a doppler too - I could use one for the quiet days!

lucky I'm sure the baby is fine, do you know if you have an anterior placenta?

JanieLovesLuckySocks Thu 27-Jun-13 23:08:09

Ooh shell good luck tomorrow!! Xx

GardenWorm Fri 28-Jun-13 06:23:55

Thinking of you today Shell! xxx

IBelieveInPink Fri 28-Jun-13 09:07:11

Ooh shell - scan day! How exciting! Good luck, will be thinking of you!

Goodluck today shell xxx

WhatWillSantaBring Fri 28-Jun-13 09:38:46

chocolate - you can get a dog nappy apparently (to retain the mess when they're on heat). We were the same - got a puppy when DC1 was tiny and it was a PITA. I would do a baby again (have to say that, given my current upduffedness!!) but not a puppy!!

So, had a tiny bit of spotting yesterday. I've stayed quite calm about it though except the two hours I was lying awake last night convinced I was cramping as there was only one spot and nothing more.

Good luck today shell.

I'm now really curious about what some of you do for a living. I'm now convinced that Garden is a member of the production staff on Jeremy Kyle. And shell must be a lawyer/architect/accountant in private practice. You have my full sympathy for year end pains (you and chocolate) - ours is 31/12 and I hate it, because it ruins Christmas party season with this frantic drive to get things finished to bump up the figures!! Hurrah for being due over Christmas again - I get to escape the pain!

shellsocks Fri 28-Jun-13 10:10:14

Sorry abt your spot santa, one spot does not spotting make so I won't call it that wink I'm sure there is nothing to worry abt with that small amount smile

And we have a winner! I do work in tax for a private accountant practice smile Year end is actually a god send today as I'm so busy not got time to stress abt the scan much smile

Thanks for the good wishes will let you know tonight..still thinking we won't find out the sex but DH is wavering!

GaryBuseysTeeth Fri 28-Jun-13 10:30:23

Welcome & congratulations Guff!

Shell, good luck, hope 4pm comes around quickly with you.
My 20wk scan with DS, the sonographer accidently showed us a bit too much & it was very obvious that he was boy!

Santa, hope that's the last of the spotting for you. Have you put a pad/bit of tissue in your pants to check?

Choc, great news on the hb find (and Doppler purchase)

Hurrah for hearing a hb JMF, sorry appointment was in the same room/same midwife.

Will just add you to the list now Jess. x

GaryBuseysTeeth Fri 28-Jun-13 10:31:40

Jessw25: 1MMC, EDD 10th July
GaryBuseysTeeth: 1DS, 1MC, EDD 10th Aug
Pentagon: 1 DD, 2MMCs, EDD 31st October
BumpKitty: 1MC, 1DD, EDD 9 Nov
Shellshock7: 2MC 1DS EDD 12 Nov next scan 28 June
Bodicea: 0DC, 2MC, EDD 16 Nov. next scan 2nd July
Ibelieveinpink: 2mc, EDD 16 Nov
GardenWorm: 1DC, 2MC, EDD 19th November, Next Scan 2nd July
Janielovesluckysocks: 1MC, 0DC, EDD 22 Nov, next scan 8th July
Lucky13: 1DS, 1 chemical, 2MC, EDD 23rd Nov
Vixjane: 2 MC, EDD 24 Nov, next scan 9th July
Vocalista86: 1 MMC, EDD 30 November. next scan 15th July
Jmf294: 1 DS, 1DD, 1 MC, EDD 10th Dec
ChocolateCremeEggbag: 1DS, 1MC, EDD 16 Dec, Next scan 26 July
DIYandEatCake: 1dd, 1mc, EDD ?16 dec
Booty: 1chemical EDD 19 Dec (Xmas baby!)
pumpkinsweetie mc1, edd:03/01/14,
Stitchinline: 2MC, 1DD, EDD 30 Dec
WillSantaComeAgain: 1DC, 2MMC, EDD 30 Dec
GuffSmuggler: 1DS, 1MCC, EDD 4th March

GuffSmuggler Fri 28-Jun-13 10:46:53

So I went out with a friend last night and was expressing my newly upduffed worries about MCing again and she said:

'Well you might MC again, you might had loads more MCs or you might have a perfectly healthy PG, either way I know you'll cope with it and be just fine'.

Am I being oversensitive or was this a bit of an awful thing to say? I know in a weird way she was trying to be helpful but it felt a bit like a kick in the stomach when she was saying it, but perhaps I'm being post MC, newly upduffed oversensitive...

Good luck with the scan today shell

jmf294 Fri 28-Jun-13 11:23:56

Guff- hugely insensitive, your friend has no idea!! Some people just don't get it, you can never totally understand unless you have had a MC but massive lack of basic empathy there. Every right to be very pissed off and hurt!!

Good luck today Shell- are you going to find out the colour?

GardenWorm Fri 28-Jun-13 11:42:23

Guff think you were restrained....I'd have probably said something along the lines of 'yes and one day you may get a really dodgy facial, oh look, here is a pebble dashed wall' (and then promptly exfoliated her face)....but then I am having evil thoughts possibly bought on by Santa outing me and bringing me down to Jeremy Kyle level!!!!

shellsocks Fri 28-Jun-13 11:43:26

gary same with DS (tho we had already been told) so yeah I suppose I might find out anyway!

guff when I had my second MC my brother said it'll be ok 'lose one, win one' and people thought he was being very insensitive but I took it as he meant it and didn't think abt it badly, I'm sure your friend was trying to be positive for you, like my Bruv smile

PurplePest Fri 28-Jun-13 11:44:12

Good luck today shell!

Guff I get she was trying to be helpful but it was insensitive.

Hello everyone else! I don't seem to retain a huge amount of info at the moment and to comment on various posts means I would have to take notes! Ha!

JanieLovesLuckySocks Fri 28-Jun-13 12:19:40

Jesus guff that's totally insensitive of your friend. People who haven't suffered the loss of a mc just don't get it. Although they usually are trying to be comforting but they don't realise how hurtful things sound.

When I had mine, a friend called round and said, well at least it wasn't a real baby, it was only cells. I felt like swiping her. I told her exactly what I thought, told her we had had a scan and in fact it was twin babies and we'd seen them in the scan. She is a mother of 2, blissfully unaware of anything but perfect pg and babies!

Women that have never had a miscarriage just don't understand and unfortunetly can be quite throwaway about your feelings before they think first. Tbh before my mc in feb i never understood but now i completely understand the upset, confusion, the shattering of your dreams, the feelings of emptyness and the dread of what's happening.

When people are insensitive it is hard to ignore them at first, and it can feel very hurtful to have someone you love say such things about your baby that was so important to you irrelevent of gestational age!
Believe me my mother has shocked me to the core & hurt me with her words and it took me a good while to forgive her, she never had a mc so didn't understand and unfortunetly at times she does bring it up and compare it to worser situations people suffer, but there isn't a comparision as mc is totally different though awfully traumatic & upsetting.

JanieLovesLuckySocks Fri 28-Jun-13 12:31:08

But i wanted to add:


ChocolateCremeEggBag Fri 28-Jun-13 12:43:41

Guff - while what she said is technically true - it's what you expect to hear from a GP or read in a book or in an NHS guide. It's not what you want to hear from a close friend.

I have a very close friend who is completely un sentimental and straight to the point. So I often brace myself if I have touchy things to talk about - but she at the same time tries her best to smooth off her "spade is a spade" type comments.

I'd give her a pass just this once and move on

God luck with the scan later Shell (fellow accountant grin)

I am on half day - so skipping off from the year end chaos (to read it on my Blackberry on the drive over to see DM in Cumbria)
Back on Sunday - take care everyone bear

IBelieveInPink Fri 28-Jun-13 12:44:13

Ah yes, the insensitive comments from those lucky ones who have never had to go through it. The one that really annoyed me was my 2nd pregnancy - my friend said happily, 'i don't know why you are worrying, I know it's going to be fine and you worrying isn't any good for the baby'
I asked how she knew, and she said 'I'm psychic'.
When that one ended in mc too, I was so tempted to say, could have warned me mystic meg- but I didn't smile
However the comment about worrying then made me wonder if I had caused it. Wasn't she lovely and helpful!

I think we all have the insensitive comments at some point or another, try not to let it get to you and think them lucky that they don't fully understand what they are saying. x

WhatWillSantaBring Fri 28-Jun-13 13:10:58

I think the thing with mc is that your feelings are so personal to you, that the chances of anyone saying the "right thing" are negligible. So, for me, having the mw say "maybe you're one of those women who can only carry girls" made me want to smack her in the face, when a friend I know found that really comforting. And my sister whose theory is that "your body will carry a baby when its the right time, and lets face it, there's so much upheaval in your life now that this isn't the right time" really annoyed me.

I think even if you've had a mc it doesn't always mean you'll get it right, but at least you're more likely to stick with the only safe thing to say which is "I'm so sorry for your loss". grin

So Guff, I also think you should give your friend a pass on this - I think she was trying to be supportive and say that she thinks you are strong and brave (and remind you that you are stronger than you think).

Remember ladies, we are all strong, resiliant and AMAZING women who have managed to survive one of life's bigger setbacks and, even more amazingly, voluntarily put ourselves through it again, putting on brave faces and never letting the world see that we're all dying a little inside because we're so terrified.

WhatWillSantaBring Fri 28-Jun-13 13:12:44

There should be a list of things to say and not to say to women who've had miscarried.


I'm so sorry for you loss.
Please let me know how I can help support you through this.


Anything else.

PurplePest Fri 28-Jun-13 13:13:13

I'm finding it so helpful being on here! It really is true - women who haven't been through a MC / MMC / scary test results etc cannot begin to imagine the feelings associated with it.

RL friends (the couple that know) tell me to be positive and have happy thoughts and not worry...and I try...but it's not easy. In fact, it's bloody hard. Remembering how hard the blow hit you before means you need to prepare yourself for any eventuality so the blow doesn't hurt as much if there is one. If that makes any sense at all!

My DM surprised me last time and just admitted she didn't know what to say or what to do as she couldn't imagine how it felt as she had never gone through it. She said she'd taken it for granted after three healthy children. It meant a lot to me at the time - the acknowledgement.

On a brighter note - yes janie WE ARE PREGNANT TODAY!!! YAY!

Have a lovely weekend in Cumbria with your DM chocolate!

shellsocks Fri 28-Jun-13 13:23:44

santa can I add:

Never ask a woman who you know has lost a baby when they are gonna get round to having (another) one.

That is the most insensitive comment I have had..even had it from a friend who had lost a baby themselves shock

GuffSmuggler Fri 28-Jun-13 13:34:13

Ha garden you made me laugh! We're actually living in a pebble dash house at the moment so I'll keep that one in mind grin

Thanks all, you have made me feel better. Glad I joined this thread, I didn't expect someone in RL to make me feel bad so early on, has put me off telling people! I know she was only trying to say the right thing though so will move on.

Oh yes shell I second that. Someone at a toddler group asked me THREE weeks after my MC if I was PG again yet - I was still bleeding from the ERPC!!

Have a super weekend chocolate

PurplePest Fri 28-Jun-13 13:47:06

Just re-read a couple of messages and santa the bereavement midwife said a similar thing to me re perhaps not being able to carry boys...not sure how I feel about that tbh!

And I have to second your comment re strong, resiliant and AMAZING women!

Omg i'm having a mini freak out. In all my scan pics i swear there are two faces-i think i'm losing my mindgrin, even my sister can see it, surely scanner couldn't have missed an extra oneblush

PurplePest Fri 28-Jun-13 14:37:35

Gosh pumpkin...your heart must be thumping!!!

GardenWorm Fri 28-Jun-13 15:25:14

I have a hacking cough - it has served as a reminder: DO YOUR PELVIC FLOOR EXERCISES! I have seriously thought I was going to wee myself on several occasions over the last few days (it's reminding me of the lack of control you have down there in the days after child birth!) grin

Pentagon Fri 28-Jun-13 15:53:10

guff I would also be upset by such a comment! I agree with what everyone mentioned above - women who have never experienced a miscarriage or missed miscarriage have no idea how devastating it is and often say hurtful things without realising...

santa, purple a friend said the same to me i.e. "maybe you can only carry girls" - I ignored it because I've never heard anything of that sort before and doubt it has any scientific basis but if a midwife said this to you I'm starting to wonder if there's any truth to it. At the same time, I know quite a few women who have had one or more MCs or MMCs and have a boy and a girl....so I really don't know what to think...has anyone else heard such a thing before? jmf you're a doctor, aren't you? Could it be true?

shell thinking of you!!

jessw25 Fri 28-Jun-13 16:13:40

Guff - I'd have been upset by that comment too! People just don't know how to talk to ladies who've had a mc do they. Even when I was in hospital for ERPC surgery I found that, until a lovely consultant came down to personally apologise for the delay at what must be a difficult time for be (kept getting put back as they had lots of emergencies) and her final line was "and I'm also just very sorry for your loss" which was the kindest thing any of the staff had said to me in 48 hrs of being in there waiting for the op and I just burst into uncontrollable and embarrassing tears at the sentiment!

Jmf - yay to hearing that heartbeat! It's a magical moment :-)

pumpkin - wow imagine if bit was twins.... my good friend has just had twin girls and they are adorable!

shellsocks Fri 28-Jun-13 19:43:58

Hi everyone smile Scan was amazing, very emotional...cried buckets then hugged and kissed the sonographer blush

All was fine and we managed to keep the sex a surprise although they looked so like DS I'm even more convinced its another boy smile

Very happy and very tired now grin

Pentagon Fri 28-Jun-13 19:54:36

aaaawwwww, congratulations shell!Wonderful news, so happy for you!x

JanieLovesLuckySocks Fri 28-Jun-13 20:11:02

aw shell that's so brilliant!!!! delighted it all went well! what a fab start to the weekend smile smile

BumpKitty Fri 28-Jun-13 21:15:15

Hey all, great news shell

It's been an emotional day for me as the charity that my mum worked for had a memorial service for her, it was lovely but very very hard, maybe even harder than the funeral perhaps due to my hormones. Anyway, i'm glad it is done.

I have wondered about the boy thing, being as I'm having DD2, a lot of the chromosomal disorders are carried on the Y gene so can only manifest themselves in boys, but a lot of people have mc who don't have faulty Y genes so, although it is definitely a possibility, I expect it accounts for very few mc percentage wise (completely non medical opinion!).

Off too London zoo tomorrow smile

BumpKitty Fri 28-Jun-13 21:16:03

to not too

jmf294 Fri 28-Jun-13 21:39:47

Shell- congratulations, hope you can have a nice relaxing sleep tonight knowing all is good.

Bump- sorry to hear of the loss of your mum, it must be a very hard time for you, but how lovely her colleagues held the memorial.

I had a google about the MC and gender. I had also thought about the Y chromosome conditions but then saw research about risk increasing if you have a son as your first child. Who knows- far from my area of expertise!!

BlackholesAndRevelations Fri 28-Jun-13 21:54:20

Shell- congratulations!! Great news on the scan.

Bump- so sorry about your mum sad xxx

My adjusted risk came back: 1:2052! Thank goodness for that.

BlackholesAndRevelations Fri 28-Jun-13 21:55:20

Ps jmf are you really a doctor?! Much respect! (brainy lady)

shell wonderful news on your scansmile xx

Sorry to hear about your loss of your mum xxx

JanieLovesLuckySocks Fri 28-Jun-13 22:29:42

aw bump i bet it was a tough day for you and very emotional. but what a lovely thing of her colleagues to have arranged. hugs x

IBelieveInPink Fri 28-Jun-13 22:36:26

Shell - that's fabulous. So pleased for you.

Bump - sounds like that was probably very hard, but very lovely.

I have had a horrid day. The people I work with are actually horrid people. Spend half the day so angry I got a bit worried about my blood pressure, then came home to an empty house because DH is away this weekend and just cried. Sorry, very me me I know, but just needed a rant. Thank you for listening smile

Pentagon Fri 28-Jun-13 22:37:06

bump sorry to hear about your mum, I can imagine the service was a very emotional event to attend flowers

pumpkin can it be that the baby isn't posing in profile but has his/her head turned to the side? My 20-week scan photo is like that but the sonographer explained when she took it - I wasn't very impressed but was too embarrassed to ask for a different photo...

OK, I still don't know what to think of this theory - I've also heard "maybe she can only carry boys only" for other women (by the same friend). I know that some women miscarry because their body mistakes the embryo for a virus and attacks and kills it (a family friend had this problem and had several miscarriages until a doctor diagnosed it and gave her the right medication during the first few weeks of her pregnancy) but I doubt a woman's body can identify the sex of the embryo and attack accordingly....could it be that some men's X or Y sperm is weaker or defective? I guess only a gyneacologist or geneticist could help with these questions hmm

BumpKitty Fri 28-Jun-13 22:39:12

Thanks all, it was a lovely thing to do, she was a very special woman and meant a huge amount to many people. It is, of course, wonderful to know how well regarded she was professionally as well as by her friends and family but it just makes me feel even more sad at the enormous waste of life and potential. She did more in her 58 years than most people will ever hope to achieve and I am immeausurably proud of her and to be her daughter, I just miss her so much and I'm desperately sad that my second daughter will never meet her.

Pentagon Fri 28-Jun-13 22:40:52

black hurray for your NT results! You must be so relieved!

pink sorry you had such a crap day and are missing your DH....big hugs!

Pixielady83 Fri 28-Jun-13 22:49:44

Hi ladies, is it ok to join you? Just got bpf this week after mmc the end of march. I don't feel I can tell anyone in rl apart from DH (cant stand the weight of others expectations iykwim) but would dearly love to have somewhere to talk about it!

So far I have been very excited then very convinced it will all go the same way. Trying to just think one week at a time. I feel incredibly lucky to fall so soon again but can't presume it'll result in an actual baby.

To compensate for anxiety I am eating a lot of chocolate grin

I have a dd 2.5 already. A further complication is that when pg I get hip/pelvic pain so that also takes the edge off the joy a bit. I had it from 28 wks in first pregnancy and was on crutches for the remainder of the pregnancy, 5 wks through to discovering mmc at 13 wks last time. Twinges already at 4+2. BUT I am determined to see this pain as a good sign (even though it wasn't really last time confused) and just remain as positive as humanly possible!

DIYandEatCake Fri 28-Jun-13 23:20:59

bump that's so hard to lose your mum at just 58, you must miss her so much.

pink hugs. Have you decided on a finish date and started the countdown yet? In my job before having dd (which I actually liked most of the time) it was so good on the rubbish days to think 'ha! Only 12 weeks left of this, suckers!'

shell congratulations on your scan smile

That's interesting so many of you have had comments about not being able to carry boys, mil said it to me and I took it really badly at the time as a stupid old wives' tale (she was a nightmare through the mc, kept banging on about would I need a d&c and wanting all the gory details, then saying if we got s move on we could still have a baby before christmas... she is lovely and we get on great but I could have thumped her for a while!).

I think I've felt the baby move a few times now, very subtle feelings, and the bump is definitely getting bigger. Still waiting for 20w scan date, should be about 3 weeks time. Got all excited to get home to a letter from the hospital but was the vbac clinic appointment - don't want to think that far ahead yet!

Pentagon Fri 28-Jun-13 23:23:33

bump you've made me well up...your mother sounds like a remarkable woman.

welcome pixie and congratulations on your BFP! We all know exactly how you feel, having been there once or twice! (personally twice - 2 MMCs but I also have a 2.5 DD) I'm sorry to hear about the hip/pelvic pain - it sounds unbearable! But having a child makes it all worthwhile, doesn't it? wink I hope you're feeling OK and getting an early scan!

Pentagon Fri 28-Jun-13 23:25:43

DIY how wonderful that you've felt the baby move - yay!

IBelieveInPink Fri 28-Jun-13 23:38:48

Thanks for the support ladies, as always. Lovely having you here to chat to.

DIY - yes I most definitely have started a countdown! 81 working days to be exact smile
Fab news on you feeling baby move!

Hi pixie, congratulations, nice to have you here.

JanieLovesLuckySocks Sat 29-Jun-13 00:09:26

Aw pink sorry you had such a shitty day in work. It's been a complete melter of a week at my work this week. With the sitting j had, I'm putting it down to a full moon. Next week is going to be awesome (see the posifrickintivity). Ryan gosling helped me...just saying wink

Hi pixie! Congrats!! Welcome aboard smile

I had THE most disgusting Chinese takeaway for dinner, threw it out half way through and now I'm starving. Hmmm...

JanieLovesLuckySocks Sat 29-Jun-13 00:10:11

*with the spotting I had ..darn phone

BlackholesAndRevelations Sat 29-Jun-13 07:38:40

Thank you pentagon - yes it is a relief. For some reason I was really worried about it xxx

jessw25 Sat 29-Jun-13 08:41:57

Bump - so very sorry about your Mum. I'd imagine being pregnant makes you miss her more but I hope her colleagues doing that made you proud.

Shell - fab news re your scan, yay!

Pink - hope you ate lots of chocolate last night while cursing your colleagues. Sorry you had a rubbish day when your DH wasn't around :-(

Pixie - hello and congratulations!

Happy weekend everyone x

Pixielady83 Sat 29-Jun-13 10:28:16

Thanks for the welcome ladies smile

Bump I'm so sorry for your loss. I can't imagine how hard that must be for you.

Pentagon - I haven't even been to the Dr yet... I wasn't sure what route to go down, Dr and push for an early scan or just wait for mw appointment. Our last baby stopped growing at 8/9 wks according to the scan so a very early scan wouldn't give me any peace of mind but I would like to have one earlier than the usual 12+ wks for a 2nd pregnancy, it was so hard getting to 13wks and then finding out last time. I might book in to see the gp next week and see if they'll let me have a scan at 10/11 wks.

Hope you all have lovely weekends smile

Hello & welcome pixie, congratulations on your pregnancythanks
I hope you get the earlier scan that you require, and niggles can be just that, i have them all the time & even after 2 scans i still worry think it's only natural. I have been told by my mw that it's my uterus stretching.

Trying to not freak out about my strange scan pictures, yes there is more than one and in each baby is in different position with what looks like another face by his or her feet-must be where they took the pictures too fast and may be an illusion of some kind!

Booked myself in to ultrababy ultrasound for a 17wk sexing scan with sneak preview in 3d, as i cannot relax in between scans & i get to find out pink or blue a good few weeks earlier than i would with nhs. My area normally does anomally between 21-23 weeks, theres no way i could wait to see if all is ok. Already kacking myself, thought my 10.6wk & 12.4wk scans would re-assure but sadly i cannot be confident all will stay well!

alicebear Sat 29-Jun-13 13:33:40

Hello ladies can I join you please? I've followed guff & rock from the ttc thread. I had a mmc in April. Found baby had died at 7 wks at my 12 wk scan. I have one DD age 2.

I'm now coming up to 7wks again so quite worried. Somehow after a mmc not having mc symptoms doesn't reassure. I've got a scan bkd for wed and trying not to think about it. So hope for gd news and a hb but fear the worst.

Any advice for surviving these early weeks & does the worry ever fade?

DIYandEatCake Sat 29-Jun-13 16:44:22

Hey welcome pixie and alice! Brilliant to have so many new people here, you're definitely in the right place, this thread has been so good for my sanity (so nice to talk to other people who really understand).

alice for me the early weeks were definitely the worst. I felt a little better after a scan at 7 weeks, then a lot better after the 12w scan, but til then was a complete basket case of worry and being convinced it was all going wrong again. This thread helped lots, as did keeping as busy as I could to make the time pass faster...

Hope everyone's been enjoying the sun, I've been out gardening today and marvelling at having some energy back (and no migraines for 2 weeks now - woop woop!). I'm also eating like a horse, am suddenly sooo hungry - thankfully am now craving relatively healthy stuff so don't feel so bad about pigging out.

andadietcoke Sat 29-Jun-13 17:56:22

Hi alice, pixie and guff - congratulations!

Alice honestly, the beginning was the worst. I had a scan at the EPU at 7+4, then a private scan at 10+5, then my '12w' scan at 13+5. Time went very very slowly. I'm now 29+4 and I'm only just getting to the point where I'm having to think about how many weeks I am. I think I'm somewhat unusual in that I'm still very very anxious - I told myself after each milestone I'd start buying things but each time found I couldn't let myself. I'm having twins though, so am 'high risk' which I think is why I'm still so reluctant to accept everything will be okay - I'm twice as likely to have a stillbirth for example.

After 20w I was infinitely better though - I started to feel them both regularly and that made a massive difference.

However, we're all here to get you through the next few weeks - between us we've been through it all and are still pregnant grin

alicebear Sat 29-Jun-13 18:03:45

Thanks anda and diy. It's great to hear from people who have gone through these early wks. Time really drags when you worry.

Wow - twins! Very exciting. Understand it's more worrying as higher risk but fingers crossed double the joy at the end.

I'm not really thinking beyond wed. Attempting to potty training my DD at the mo which is pretty disastrous but taking my mind off things!!

Rockchick1984 Sat 29-Jun-13 18:20:29

Yay Alice didn't know you had got your BFP too!! grin grin grin

jessw25 Sat 29-Jun-13 18:37:36

Hi Alice and congratulations :-)

Ok self absorbed rant time from my hospital cell....

Midwife and healthcare assistant were in my room today and midwife was reassuring me that, 'don't worry, we get lots of high risk placenta previa ladies in here and it's tough for them waiting it out in here worrying but they always go home with lovely babies at the end of it'......to which the healthcare assistant added something along the lines of 'well, just to be clear no one can ever guarantee that it'll be ok in the end, we don't like to give out false promises love'!

Now I know that she's speaking the truth but I'm into my 4th week of being in here worrying about having a big bleed and me/baby not making it (irrational cos that outcome is very rare according to the doctors) but I don't need to hear that!! Is it me or is that very insensitive?! Anyone else been driven mad by medical/hospital staff insensitivity sometimes when you just needed reassurance?! Grrrrrrrrr.

That's very insensitive jessjess, it's very wrong when medical staff say things so loud we can hear, it sets alarm bells ringing and makes us worry. It's very unproffessional!

Toxic Mil now knows, all she can do is moan about my edd, fgs she's one harsh bitch at times!- when i myself can't even think of my edd yet, i just want to get by week by week as i don't want to tempt fate by talk of due dates let alone mil moaning as she doesn't want anymore january born in her family-i hate her

alicebear Sat 29-Jun-13 19:19:31

jess that's incredibly insensitive. I actually think quite a lot of professionals who regularly deal with women who are likely to be sensitive in pregnancy /during mc to be not that thoughtful of our feelings.

I hope you're doing okay despite. How much longer have you got to wait?

Yes hi rock nice that we're both here. I hope I remembered to congratulate you on the ttc thread when I was still lurking but if not big congratulations grin

pumpkin I can certainly share the moans about mils. When my DD was very overdue she told me it was an anticlimax! Not how I saw the birth of my 1st child! I can't believe anyone would make comments about edd esp after what you've gone through.

DIYandEatCake Sat 29-Jun-13 20:04:39

jess ignore the stupid healthcare assistant, saying that was completely unnecessary. Good job the midwives are more sympathetic! How much longer have you got to wait?

pumpkin your mil sounds awful!

alice we're doing potty training too, I feel your pain. Actually dd's doing pretty well (we're 2 weeks in) but as for the poo situation... (shudder!)

jessw25 Sat 29-Jun-13 20:41:54

Thanks all. Going to give her a wide berth and avoid chit chat from now on - her no nonsense approach is not reassuring!

God Pumpkin your MIL sounds horrible :-( As if she's grumbling about when you might be due! She should be happy for you and her son that after a previous loss, you're now pregnant again. Completely understand the week by week approach, I was the same this time after our loss. Even now in 3rd trim, i take it week by week and compared to people I know, I'm not taking anything for granted till the baby actually appears. My colleagues who hadn't had MCs were talking about schools, catchment areas, the childrens whole lives etc by this late stage..i just want to make it to and then through the birth.

Alice and Diy - section is scheduled for a week on Weds (10th) if my placenta behaves and we don't have a bleed + an emergency section before that. 37 weeks/full term tomorrow fingers crossed, so that will feel like a milestone compared to when was first diagnosed and when an emergency c sec would have meant quite a premature baby.

Hope you're all having a nice Sat night x

DIYandEatCake Sat 29-Jun-13 21:02:40

That's a good day for a birthday wink. Brilliant you've got so far, you deserve a medal for all that time in hospital, I thought 4 days was bad, I'm so going to remember you if I'm complaining about being kept in this time round!

andadietcoke Sat 29-Jun-13 21:50:42

jess I can see they don't want to make false promises, but sometimes you just need a bit of reassurance!

shell if you were proud of me over the cots you'll be extra proud today - travel system ordered - Bugaboo Donkey with lovely jewel blue fabric (I don't care that bloody K-Mid has allegedly got the same on a chameleon, I saw it first...), car seats and the bases. It's being delivered to my parents', and DH did the actual ordering, but this feels like progress wink

jmf294 Sat 29-Jun-13 22:09:33

Jess- the HCA just didn't think before she opened her mouth. I hope you Saturday night is ok there. Just think only 1 more Saturday after today and then your baby will be here. If anything were to happen baby would out in a matter of minutes. Keep strong.

Andadietcoke - yippee for the Donkey!!! So excited for you and trying hard to to have donkey envy. I will get new fabrics for my chameleon, the blue is lovely.

Hi to pixie and Alice. Early days are hard, I did lots of knicker checking and was always expecting the worst. A scan at 8 weeks was reassuring.

Hope you are all enjoying the weekend!!

alicebear Sun 30-Jun-13 07:48:48

Morning all.
In a bit of a panic here as had some light bleeding last nt. Obv really worried it's the start of the end but no more over nt. It was very slight but bright red.
Trying to keep positive & wonder if might be break through bleeding but if it carries on today will be ringing gp tomorrow to ask to go to epau tomorrow. Why do these things always happen at the weekend?

Anyone had something similar & a good outcome?

Love the look of bugaboo donkey.
jess not too long to go now & at least you're almost at term too. Does that make it a little easier?

jessw25 Sun 30-Jun-13 08:14:46

Oh Alice, sorry about the panic with the bleeding :-( For peace of mind, you prob just need to get to your EPU to check it out? When I've bled at a weekend (itvwas on a Sunday last time) I text my midwife who told me to go to a and e, for the sake of speed. We did and they booked me in for a Monday scan with EPU. I'm sure it varies from place to place but that might be quicker than waiting till tomorrow to ring the doctors?

Thinking of you very much. Know it's hard but try not to panic cos it has stopped and wasn't really painful from what you've said (?) so i think that's a good sign. Big virtual hug x

Pentagon Sun 30-Jun-13 10:14:02

hi everyone!

pixie I know what you mean about not wanting a very early scan. My last pregnancy ended in MMC at 7.5 weeks but didn't find out until scan at 12+ weeks. So when I got pregnant again my plan was to see my GP at 7 weeks and request a scan for the week after. But unfortunately I got tonsilitis at 5weeks (about a week after finding out I'm pregnant), saw my GP of course and she phoned the EPU and booked me an appointment for 6 weeks exactly. Luckily, we saw a heartbeat but when I requested a repeat scan for 8-9 weeks the EPU was like "you don't need it, everything looks fine and as it should, you shouldn't compare this pregnancy to the last one"....hmm anyway, weeks 7-9 were hellish, I had a private scan at 10 weeks which was great and after that have been worrying less and less...(OK not strictly true but the stress is considerably less than the first few weeks) and I agree with anda I'm so much better after my 20 week scan a couple of weeks ago

aaah, pumpkin I see what you mean about the two faces, not at all what I thought! It's probably an optical illusion but it's great that you're having a scan at 17 weeks for reassurance and to find out the sex (I'm sure they will explain what that second face was)

alice welcome and congratulations! I've had 2 MMCs so couldn't agree more with your comment i.e. "not having mc symptoms doesn't reassure". You have a scan very soon so fingers crossed that will help you get through the first few weeks! I survived the first trimester by reading a lot (I recommend the Hunger Games trilogy - great distraction) and watching films. I didn't feel very sociable and didn't feel like shopping so books and films were my only distraction (and of course DD which is the joy of my life!)

jess what an insensitive comment - ignore! You're in hospital and in good hands. And you're 37 weeks today (yay!!) so nearly there - everything will fine, I'm sure!

DIY - no more migraines, hurray!

Pentagon Sun 30-Jun-13 10:20:09

oh alice I've just seen your post about the bleed...most probably it's implantation bleeding but try to go to a&e if you're too worried...thinking of you!

anda how exciting you bought the travel system! The bugaboo donkey is lovely!

Bodicea Sun 30-Jun-13 11:09:53

Hi everyone,

Jess - that hca is an insensitive cow. what does she know anyway, she is a HCA!!! Her job is to assist not dish out crap advice. Tell her to leave it to the the professionals!

Bump - so sorry for your loss. I cant imagine what you must be going through.

Went out last night in a figure hugging dress for first time in figure hugging dress showing of the bump. Loved it. Saw loads of people I hadnt seen for ages and didnt know i was pregant. Loved it. Lapped up the attention and the bump patting XXXX

shellsocks Sun 30-Jun-13 12:33:25

Thanks everyone....hormones are mad, you would think I'd have been on a high after the scan but spent yesterday crying and moody?! Poor DH blush

bump sounds like a lovely event and so nice to remember your mum that way x

black great result grin

pixie congrats smile I feel your pain I suffer with PGP too (tho not as bad as you) and its horrible...it isn't as bad as early this time for me tho so hopefully it will be the same for you smile

Hi alice and congrats smile I agree with everyone else the stage up to the 12w scan is so tough, I hope you get to see a MW today or in the morning smile

I can moan abt MILs too...mines an insensitive @&£? hmm

anda gringringrin that's brill well done you're really getting there now smile. The pram I've chosen has 15% off at JL at the min so everyone is telling me to buy but I'm scared confused You might have just given me the push I need smile

diy brill your feeling movements and fanatics the migraines have gone smile

Hi bod I love showing my bump off too, it's a great feeling isn't it smile

andadietcoke Sun 30-Jun-13 16:59:02

shell do it. I've just spent a small fortune at Mamas and Papas buying nursery stuff because it was all 20% off. I figure if the worst comes to the worst I can return it, and I've saved about £70 so I would have kicked myself if I hadn't got it.

alicebear Sun 30-Jun-13 18:40:22

Thanks all for the supportive words & advice. I spoke to the gp on call and have a scan bkd at epu tomorrow morning. Have bled a little today. It's very light but very similar to how my mc started after my scan last time so I fear the worst.
Hope people have had a nice weekend.

BumpKitty Sun 30-Jun-13 20:06:22

thanks everyone, had a lovely day with DH and DD today and I'm trying to get life back to some form of normality after all the build up to the service - I didn't realise how exhausting it would be.

anda I am so proud of you (very patronising I know - but I really am!). Your little girls are going to look so cute in that pram smile

Hi all newbies, so pleased to have you here with us. I had an early scan at about 9 weeks and found it very reassuring but we all know the early weeks are torture so come and talk to us all whenever you want grin also - (and this is important) you must all wear lucky socks for any scan, these can be any kind of novelty sock.

alice lots of us have had bleeds and all has been ok, I had one with my first pg and DD was absolutely fine. Good luck for your scan xx

Bodicea Sun 30-Jun-13 20:15:55

Hi Sorry missed your post Alice. Light Bleeding is pretty normal. I had no bleeding in my last missed miscarriage but quite a bit in this pregnancy so its by no means a sign of an mc. Hope you get some sleep tonight before your scan.

Ok so taken the plunge and ordered a cot as well as a cot top changer from John Lewis today. Eek. First baby purchase. Well it was in the sale and there were only 9 left so thought best get a move on. It is a troll one and reduced to £99 from £195. Bargain. We already have a lovely big drawer unit so that's all the nursery furniture sorted apart from blinds and accessories. Gonna paint it in next couple of weeks to give paint fumes chance to subside as planning on putting baby straight in there from the start and sleeping in there as well. Going for grey and yellow and and elephant theme. Excited!!!!

shellsocks Sun 30-Jun-13 20:18:14

Best wishes for tomorrow alice fingers crossed everything's ok x

bump sounds like a tough few days emotionally, glad you've come out the other side ok x

anda I've done it aaaggghhh grin Pram, carrycot attachment, footmuff for DS and rain cover all ordered shock Being delivered straight to my mums tho not to be mentioned again till after the babies here wink Thanks x

ChocolateCremeEggBag Sun 30-Jun-13 21:26:34

Hi Alice - best of luck tomorrow. I had a vv small bleed around 8 weeks with this one - sonographer at my private scan suggested breakthrough bleeding as it would be around period time.

Anda- total Donkey envy! DH says we don't need to upgrade our Bee ( I may get a carrycot for it - fixed on by the car seat clips)

Home from Cumbria, had a lovely day at Woolfest with my mum and aunts (yep there is such a thing as Woolfest - think lots and lots of stalls selling wool related items grin) then on way home she breaks news that DF has just been diagnosed with prostate cancer.
Which in itself is not a massive shock as we have been on at him for ages to go and get tested (long story but he is a stop start wee-er which is a classic sign) but was a bit hmm that she waited until we'd had day out. They found out on Tuesday FGS. Anyway, finding out tomorrow what suggested treatment will be - probably putting radioactive bits into it I think. DF is very pragmatic about it all at least

Sorry bit of a long post. Will catch up on more of the weekends posts tomorrow when I should be working

BumpKitty Sun 30-Jun-13 22:26:55

sorry about your dad choc your mum probably just wanted to tell you in person and didn't want to ruin the day out by telling you in the morning. I suppose there's no easy way to tell or be told. Anyway, its good he is being seen soon so he knows what the plan is xx

GuffSmuggler Sun 30-Jun-13 22:27:38

Hi pixie and alice welcome. Pixie I had a MMC at the end of March too, still feels quite raw but I'm feeling so much more positive than even a month ago.

Alice I hope you are ok and not freaking out, but I know I would be sad Glad you have got a scan tomorrow, just try and focus on that as that is the only thing that is going to give you reassurance but as others have said, loads of people bleed in perfectly healthy pregnancies but we all understand how you are going to think the worst. We're here to hand hold.

Sorry about your DF egg what an awful shock for you all, I hope they can get him treated ASAP.

alicebear Sun 30-Jun-13 22:28:32

Thanks ladies but pretty sure it's game over for me. Reasonably heavy bleeding now with some small clots & mild cramps. sad sorry if tmi.
Think scan will just confirm another mc.
Absolutely gutted. Will pop back tomorrow to let you know but think it's been a short stay on this thread for me.

DIYandEatCake Sun 30-Jun-13 22:33:59

sad alice, hugs. Look after yourself and hope time goes fast til scan tomorrow. Really hope it's not happening again, that would be really shitty luck. Thinking of you. flowers

Have my fx for you alice, hope it's good news for you xx
Could be implantation at this stage.

Oh alice only just seen your latest post, thinking of you x

Bodicea Sun 30-Jun-13 23:14:18

thinking of you alice xxxxxx

IBelieveInPink Sun 30-Jun-13 23:20:57

Alice, hope you coping okay, and hope tomorrow brings much better news than you are expecting x

Choc- I'm so very sorry. Thats so sad. I hope treatment is as quick and painless as possible, and you all have lots of support xx

JanieLovesLuckySocks Mon 01-Jul-13 07:38:07

Oh Alice you poor love. I hope you don't have to go through such a horrible time again. Thinking of you this morning xx

And choc I'm so sorry to hear your news, it'll take a while to sink in. Did they catch it early on? My dad was diagnosed 5 yrs ago, caught early due to constant screening (the men in his family had it too so seems to be hereditary) but with good monitoring and medication he luckily still lives life as normally as possible. It was a real shock when he told me, men aren't good at emotional things like that (in my family anyway!) and I think it took him some time to come round and tell me. Hope there's lots if care and support available to you all xx

Anda I'm very VERY proud of your purchases! I managed to nosy into mothercare, just to dip my toe in the water. Still deciding whether or not I need to say bye bye to my mini before picking one confused

Hi to everyone, hope this week is better than last week x

andadietcoke Mon 01-Jul-13 07:43:00

Oh Alice hoping for good news today. Try to relax, and if you're in pain take paracetamol.

Choc sorry to hear about your dad. My best friend's dad was diagnosed with prostrate cancer 12 months ago and so far the treatment has been uncomplicated, and so far, successful. Your mum probably found it hard to break the news to you and didn't want to spoil the day - mums are very good at trying to protect us.

Rockchick1984 Mon 01-Jul-13 07:56:50

Alice hoping everything goes ok today, still keeping fingers crossed for you that it works out ok thanks

Choc agree with others that your mum probably didn't want to spoil your day, has he got a prognosis yet?

5 weeks tomorrow here, cb digi yesterday came up as 3+ so that's good, and Internet cheapie today had a stronger second line than the control line. So far so good, today I am pregnant. I've decided I like that mantra so thankyou to whoever said it earlier - I'm trying to stay positive and not stress easier said than done

Pixielady83 Mon 01-Jul-13 08:21:16

Alice so sorry to hear that, I really hope your scan gives you positive news todaythanks

choc sorry to hear about your dad's diagnosis. I really hope he responds well to treatment and the treatment itself doesn't make him feel too unwell.

Rock I totally agree, I have adopted that as my mantra atm. although I'm also mostly pretending not to be pg at the moment in order to a) not get too excited and therefore potentially better able to deal with another mc and B) so that I don't tell anyone. I told so many ppl last time (thought it would be a straightforward 2nd pg) it was horrible having to work through everyone and tell them. I'm terrible at keeping it a secret esp once symptoms start. Slightly crazy thinking but hey ho.

Good luck to whoever is potty training (sorry can't remember who is was down thread blush ) our first attempt at it in Feb was a nightmare so we left it but spent a lot of time reading books about it and talking about dd's friends who used potty etc. what cracked it for us was several play dates where dd saw her friend using potty. eventually after seeing her friend one day she just said she wasn't going to wear nappies anymore and that was that. I was confused as we were about to go on holiday but it all went pretty smoothly from there on.

BlackholesAndRevelations Mon 01-Jul-13 08:24:54

Thinking of you Alice xxx

WhatWillSantaBring Mon 01-Jul-13 09:01:51

Oh what sad news to start a Monday sad. Thinking of you alice today.

choc that must have been a horrid shock for you yesterday, but (and I know its easier said than done) of all the cancers to get, prostrate is probably the best of a bad bunch, as it is really treatable. DFIL had it three years ago and he's fully clear now, so keeping my fingers crossed for your father.

We told "people" yesterday - parents, siblings and our DC1 shock - who took it very well (as well as a 2.5 year old can, I guess) and kept asking to see the baby now grin.

I was going to tell my sister on Friday night, but she trumped me with possibly the best excuse ever - she was 2 hours late for supper as she'd ended up going for drinks with a genuine A-List celeb (can't say who) who was staying in our teeny tiny little village. envy Very exciting for li'l ol' me, to think there was someone quite so famous staying in a house whose chimney pots I can see from my bathroom. I had to alter the dog walk to find an excuse to walk past that house just so I could see if I could get a peek, but all I saw was the bodyguards [real saddo emoticon].

Pentagon Mon 01-Jul-13 09:05:35

alice thinking of you...

choc sorry to hear about you dad, I know quite a few men who were diagnosed with prostate cancer and all of them were treated successfully. I hope he gets better and over it soon!

pixie it sounds like a great copying mechanism, I was the same during the first few weeks - I refused to think of myself as pregnant and only told family and very few close friends. My DD is being potty trained at the moment - we didn't really try, she just saw other children at the nursery going to the loo and asked to do it. The problem is she's not that bothered when she is at home and I haven't made a real effort either, I'm embarrassed to say...but I will do from now on

More purchases! That's great Bod! If I remember well, you have a scan tomorrow? And Garden? Good luck ladies!

How's everyone sleeping by the way? I sleep on my back and both on my left and right side (I can't be in the same position, throughout the night, I doubt anyone can!) but I feel very guilty when I wake up and I'm on my back as I've read it's not good for mother and baby...or is it just the mother? I freaked out the other night... I had propped up myself on 2 pillows, woke up on my back 2 hours later and my bump felt numb, pins and needles and everything...I thought I had harmed the baby but have felt her move since...still, I'm worried and paranoid!

GuffSmuggler Mon 01-Jul-13 09:06:34

Thinking of you Alice, sorry you've had a bad night sad We're here to hand hold x

WhatWillSantaBring Mon 01-Jul-13 09:19:27

Pentagon - as far as i know (I'm not a HCP) sleeping on your back isn't bad in itself. For some women, it can cause real problems, as the baby presses on the vena cava (or one of the major blood vessels) which can cause the mother to get dizzy, feel sick or even pass out. If you're not getting these symptoms on your back then I don't believe there is any harm to it, so I really wouldn't worry.

I don't know where this thing about lying on your left (or is it right? I'm lexdysic so can't tell the differenc) came from.

If you haven't felt the baby move, the usual advice is a cold sugary drink and having a lie down (sounds bliss anyway!).

Also (and time to get on my soap box) - ladies, please do make use of your hospital's day assessment units if your baby's movements slow down or stop. I can't remember when they'll start accepting you, but I went with DC1 and they were so amazingly lovely, and supportive. DC1 didn't stop moving totally, but at about 31 weeks the movements slowed right down for more than 12 hours, so I went in and they were fab. They were so pleased with me for coming in and never felt like I was wasting their time. DC1 was fine (though it took an overnight stay for me to be released) but they said they probably "saved" about one baby a week through timely intervention. I don't want that to scare you, but modern healthcare and technology is amazing, so use it!!

Pentagon Mon 01-Jul-13 09:34:57

Thanks Santa!! I feel the baby move several times a day - for some reason less at weekends, probably because I'm not sitting at a desk but move around instead! But I would definitely go to the hospital if I were worried - is it 24 or 28 weeks that you should start feeling regular movements? I'll have to check the "count the kicks" website

I've just seen your post about the celebrity - how exciting!! Did you manage to catch a glimpse? wink

GaryBuseysTeeth Mon 01-Jul-13 10:20:42

Thinking of you today Alice, hope all goes well. flowers
Welcome pixie!

Choc, sorry to hear about your Dad's diagnosis, sending you & your family posifrickinetivity vibes, hope he responds well to treatment.

<barges Santa off the soap box>, the day assessment units won't make you feel like a knob for going in & getting movement checked out, even when baby decides to start a disco the second you get hooked onto the monitor. Which is what has happened to me the three times I've been in for reduced movements!
Count the kicks have a free app on iphone/android store too.

Santa, hurrah for telling people!

Rock, <pompoms> for the 3+ and darker line. Today we are pregnant, although no idea about the not stressing out!

Now we're in July (wtf!) I can officially say DC2 is due next month <wibble>

Bodicea Mon 01-Jul-13 11:47:39

Choc, so sorry to hear about your dads diagnosis. I second what the others are saying about prostate cancer. It really is very treatable xxxxx

Honking of Alice today. We all have our fingers crossed for you xxxx

Pentagon I am sleeping ok so far except for night toilet visits. Have swapped sides of bed to be closer to the loo.
Do keep waking up with a sore bump though. Not sure what I do in my sleep. I do have a tendency to sleep on my back ( dh will testify that is why i snore like a middle aged man!) but I am sure if it was causing any major problems i would subconsciously turn in my sleep.

Excited about 20 week scan tommorow. . If all is well I might even say something on Facebook - although pics from the weekend I have been tagged in made it pretty obvious to those that don't know yet.

Bodicea Mon 01-Jul-13 11:51:12

Sorry typo. Thinking of Alice xxxx

shellsocks Mon 01-Jul-13 12:52:39

Sorry to hear abt your dad choc hope the treatment isn't too hard on him and he had a speedy recovery x

Very sorry to read your last post alice I know how tough this is and am hoping your instincts are wrong x

Well done for letting the news out santa scary but brilliant at the same time smile And exciting abt the celeb, dying to know who!!! When are we supposed to really monitor our movements, it's 28w isn't it?

Glad things are going well rock each milestone you pass is another step in the right direction smile

pentagon I'm using my pregnancy pillow now as was waking up in too much pain hmm That's keeping me mainly on the left smile

Next month, love it gary I can't wait till the birth announcements arrive on this thread grin

Good luck tomorrow bod smile

GardenWorm Mon 01-Jul-13 15:27:16

Thinking of you today Alice

Sorry to hear your news Choc. Your mum sounds a bit like mine when my dad had a heart attack; she didn't tell me when it happened as she knew I was driving over the next day anyway (250 miles away) and didn't want to panic me. Luckily he was OK. That's what's mums do sometimes, they try and protect you even when you are big enough and ugly enough!

Scan Tuesday tomorrow - there are a few of us including me and Bod but I so can't remember who else????

....unflattering comment of pregnancy so far: "you don't look pregnant though, you just look like a bird who likes downing pints in the pub" It was a bloke so I suppose I shouldn't have expected any better, thing is I'm already twice the bump I was at this stage with DD, not sure what he thinks pregnant women look like grin

GardenWorm Mon 01-Jul-13 15:29:03

Oh and I have found someone more obsessed with Doppling than I thought possible: DD now runs into the bedroom and gets it out of the box requesting to listen to babies heartbeat and then her own. Cute!

DIYandEatCake Mon 01-Jul-13 15:41:32

shock at that comment garden! That's cute of your dd. mine keeps talking about the baby too, she told me yesterday that when it comes out she's going to put it in purple pyjamas and boots (?!) and keeps stroking and hugging my tummy going 'stroke baby, cuddle baby, tiny tiny baby in there'. Quite impressed with her understanding (she's 2.3) but then she does love babies! (Hope she still feels like that come December!)

choc I'm so sorry to hear about your dad's diagnosis, hope the treatment is successful and not too traumatic for him.

DIYandEatCake Mon 01-Jul-13 15:44:02

And all the best for tomorrow garden and bodicea and anyone else with scans.

jessw25 Mon 01-Jul-13 15:50:05

Alice thinking of you very much and really hoping that your instinct is off in this case. Lots of love and keep us posted.

Choc so sorry about your DF and hope the treatment sees him well again. Hope you're doing as well as you can do with the news.

Garden - yep it's Scan Tues for me and for purple as well i think. Mine is to check growth as although baby had grown at the one 2 weeks ago when was 35 wks, the rate of growth had slowed. That, coupled with another small but stressful bleed at midnight last night might mean they might do section sooner rather than later to get baby out safely. Am so jealous of all my friends' text book pregnancies right now. All of this after a mc too doesn't seem fair!! But I guess all of our mc histories will make us all be all the more grateful with our end results, fingers crossed.

jmf294 Mon 01-Jul-13 16:30:28

Alice- thoughts with you today, hope you are being looked after.

Choc- sorry to hear about your dad, I hope he makes a full recovery.

Jess- hope the scan has gone well today- it's July now so baby will be here so soon now!!

Exhausting day here, I had to take my son to his quarterly trip to the hospital in London for his diabetes checkup. I had to take my daughter as well as I had no childcare. 2 young children in London is tiring!! He got on so well though at his appointment, his overall control is amazing and I am a proud mummy. At times he has to wait until he is allowed to eat, he sometimes misses PE if he's low, he sometimes can't eat his snack box when he's high but he rarely complains despite 20+ blood tests a day!!
A good 50% of the time I could happily sell him as he is an argumentative monster but I need to remember the big picture with him and today I'm a proud Mum!!
Next week is his diabetes birthday- he will have had diabetes for 3 years, so I'm treating him to yet more Lego!!

BlackholesAndRevelations Mon 01-Jul-13 17:28:36

Oh bless your DS jmf; children are amazing x

Sorry about your dads diagnosis choc x

Hope you're ok Alice x

StarsInTheNightSky Mon 01-Jul-13 18:16:30

Hi all, sorry for not being around for a few days, things were quite hectic as we got married on Saturday. I'm going to be leaving this thread as mmc diagnosed at hospital today. EPRC booked for tomorrow. Really good luck to all of the rest of you, and hopefully one day I'll be able to rejoin thread and will one day be able to have a child. Sorry to put a downer on this. Feeling completely numb.

jmf294 Mon 01-Jul-13 18:31:57

So sorry Stars- what a bloody rotten start to your wedded like. Hope tomorrow goes ok and life is kinder to you.
I hope you had a wonderful wedding day. Xx

GaryBuseysTeeth Mon 01-Jul-13 18:42:00

Stars, so sorry to hear your news, hope tomorrow goes as well as possible & hope that, when you're ready to ttc again, you're back here with a boring, textbook pg. flowers
Hope you had a glorious wedding day. xx

jmf, well done to your DS! Hope he enjoys his lego next week.

<rubs luckysocks> for all the ladies with scans tomorrow.

LuckySocks13 Mon 01-Jul-13 18:49:26

oh goodness ladies. So sorry to read such sad news on here.

Stars: So sorry to hear of your MMC. Cruel at anytime but after your wedding too. Hope you enjoyed your wedding day and that you are getting lots of support now.

Alice: Hope you are ok.

Choc: Thoughts are with you and your family. Hope treatment starts soon and he responds well to it.

flowers flowers flowers

Jess: sorry you've had another bleed. Not long now until you meet your baby. You are in the right place being monitored even though it must be hard.

Happy scan day tomorrow for all of you with scans. Is it 20 week scans for most of you? Will you be finding out the flavour? Mine is at the end of the week. I will be double checking that its a girl.

I was 19 weeks Saturday gone. Feeling really anxious this week. Also feeling really sick and dizzy today. Anyone else getting this at this stage? I could go to sleep right now but DH is going to be late so bath and bedtime routine for DS needs completing first! Hopefully he will go to bed ok. He has been hard work recently with going to bed!

StarsInTheNightSky Mon 01-Jul-13 19:14:54

jmf thank you, wedding day was wonderful thanks, just trying to focus on that, scan confirmed baby dies on our wedding day though, so it makes our memories a bit tainted. xx

Gary thank you so much, hopefully so. xx

Socks thank you, yep loads of support thanks, just feeling awful at the moment. Thank you though xx

Wombat79 Mon 01-Jul-13 19:19:49

Hello Everyone
I had a mmc end of feb for which I had an ERPC. It took 3 months for my period to return afterwards.
I am now 7 weeks pregnant and I thought I was doing ok on the anxiety front but today I am a little panicky as I feel like my sickness is a bit better, I'm less bloated and feel like my boobs are less sore.
Do symptoms vary in these early stages?
I wish i had scan eyes so I could check everything is ok.
Thanks everyone

DIYandEatCake Mon 01-Jul-13 19:33:58

Oh crap stars that is such awful luck, and so sad sad. Words fail me. I really hope you're back here soon. flowers

wombat symptoms varied for me and drove me even crazier with worry. The early weeks are hard! Are you going to have an early scan or wait it out til 12 weeks? Welcome and congrats by the way smile

jmf your son sounds amazing... You have every right to be really proud.

StarsInTheNightSky Mon 01-Jul-13 19:36:38

DIY thank you so much for your kind words xx

I hope you are okay Alice, thinking of you and hope your feelings were wrong xx

Welcome wombat, try not to worry, disapearance of symptoms doesn't always mean the worst xx

So, so sorry for your loss stars, what an awful thing to go through on your wedding daysad, i hope that you managed to enjoy some of your special day, even if it was a small part. You are in my thoughts, hope to see you back here in the future xxx

jess Sorry to hear yet more worries for you, hope baby is here soon and can't wait for the day we hear your bouncing baby has been bornsmile, not long now!

Such sad news on here today, thinking of all you ladies that are going through the heartbreak of mc for the 2nd or even 3rd timesad

Goodluck to all those ladies awaiting scans tomorrowsmile xxx

jessw25 Mon 01-Jul-13 19:44:27

Stars - congratulations on your wedding first of all. I'm so very sorry for your sad news, really wish I could make it better for you. Thoughts and prayers are with you and hope you can lean on your lovely new DH at the moment xx

shellsocks Mon 01-Jul-13 19:49:13

stars I am so upset for you, life is such a bitch sometimes and that is an awful thing to have to go thru on your wedding day hmm Glad to hear you have lots of support and I hope your recovery goes well and wish you luck for the future xxx

Bodicea Mon 01-Jul-13 19:59:16

Oh stars I am really gutted for you. I just want to say that scans aren't that accurate especially when it is a mmc. They really cant pinpoint the exact day a babies heart stopped. Sometimes they stop growing before the heart stops for instance. You must be feeling truly awful but I hope you can take a little bit of comfort from that and don't let it taint the memories of your day xxxxx

GardenWorm Mon 01-Jul-13 20:09:11

Stars; I am so sad to hear of your loss, words are not enough I know but we are all thinking of you and are here for you. I was going to say something similar to Bod about the accuracy of a scan being able to say when your baby died, listen to Bod on that she does scans for a living. I doubt it will make any difference right now but it may be of some comfort in the future. I wish you and your other half the very best with ttc again when the time is right. It is OK to be numb for now. Take good care of yourselves xxxx

BumpKitty Mon 01-Jul-13 20:18:16

stars I'm so sorry. Life can be so unbelievably hard sometimes and it is so unfair that a day that is meant to be pure happiness has had to be touched by this awful news. Just take comfort in the fact that your wedding is just one day and your marriage will be much longer with much happier days to come. I wish you and your new husband a long and lovely marriage and a baby too when the time is right for you again xxxx

alice been thinking about you today. Hope you're doing ok xx

Good Luck for scans tomorrow

JanieLovesLuckySocks Mon 01-Jul-13 20:26:27

oh stars you poor thing, i am so so sorry. i echo everything that has been said by the other girls. my thoughts will be with you tomorrow and over the upcoming months xx

alice, thinking of you today as well x

IBelieveInPink Mon 01-Jul-13 21:09:17

What a horrid run of badness we are going through at the moment. I'm so sorry for all the sad things.
stars, I'm just so sorry.

I'm having a little weep for all the sad things going on. I really hope a little more luck and happiness comes along very soon.


alicebear Mon 01-Jul-13 21:19:41

So sorry stars really rubbish news. Hope you're resting & being looked after.
As I thought I have had a miscarriage sad so will be saying goodbye to all you lovely ladies for now.
I am feeling okay & hoping maybe we'll be lucky third time around.

Best of luck to you all. I will pop by now & again to hear about bumps becoming babies & hope to join you again one day.
Thanks for all your kind messages which made my wait in epu that bit more bearable.

JanieLovesLuckySocks Mon 01-Jul-13 21:24:48

Oh Alice what bad bad luck sad I'm so sorry this has happened to you. Be sure to take the time to get through this very sad time. Big hugs to you too.

What a sad day x

IBelieveInPink Mon 01-Jul-13 21:29:43

So sorry Alice. I know you must be so sad at the moment. But for me, 3rd time lucky seems to be working so far, so don't lose heart. Hope to see you here again very very soon x

ldt87 Mon 01-Jul-13 21:30:00

Can I join you ladies please? I am 8 weeks 6 days pregnant today and had a miscarriage at 9 weeks 4 days at easter. I had a private scan yesterday and all looked good. I have managed to not count down the days too much up until now, but the closer I get to my last loss stage the more scared I get!

I thought after the scan it would be better, but I think I'm waiting for week 9 to pass before I can really relax. When do you start to enjoy your pregnancy following a loss?

Anyway sorry for rambling, I have 7 and 8 year old daughters and this will be my first baby with my husband. What stage is everyone else at? Xx

sad alice, so sorry your fears were confirmed. Take care of yourself & hope you resting, sorry for your loss and big hugs to you xxx

Welcome ltb xx

Such a sad day on here today, sending my love to stars & alice x

JanieLovesLuckySocks Mon 01-Jul-13 22:00:53

Hi newbies, glad to see you here smile

lucky after suffering zero morning sickness, I've really felt the dizzies and nausea the last couple of days. Had to get back into bed this morning as I was getting the cold sweats and yesterday in town I had to bug a bottle if coke and hide in a shopping centre loo for about 30mins just to close my eyes. Hope yours passes soon too x

Good luck for the scans tomorrow ladies

ChocolateCremeEggBag Mon 01-Jul-13 22:07:31

Alice & Stars - truly gutted for both of you. Life is so unfair at times. Hope you are both getting lots of TLC in RL flowers

Thank you for the lovely words re my DF, feeling much better that it's one of the "best" cancers to get (IYKWIM)

Hi to LDT & Wombat - as you'll no doubt see, now we've had at least one MC don't think any of us will stop worrying until we have a baby safe in our arms (and then that is just the start). I had an early scan at 9 weeks but still panicked before 12 week scan, and got a doppler last week (I'm now 16 weeks) which I am using daily. I'll feel better (I think) when I can feel proper movements in a few weeks.

Good luck for tomorrows scans - hope you all have your lucky socks ready.

GuffSmuggler Mon 01-Jul-13 22:08:22

I'm so sorry stars and alice, how awful. I am thinking of you both and praying that your sorrow turns to joy one day soon.

Welcome wombat and ldt.

Pentagon Mon 01-Jul-13 22:10:12

stars, alice I'm so sorry to hear your news. Life is so unfair sometimes...flowers stars you will have your beautiful baby, you can get pregnant, half the battle is won. alice you have a DD already so obviously this is due to bad luck, I've also had 2 losses just not in a row. Wishing you both all the best for next time!

wombat & ldt welcome! The worry never stops but for me things got slightly better after the 12-week scan and considerably better after the 20-week one. ldt I'm currently 22 weeks after MMC, DD, 2nd MMC.

jmf well done to your little boy! You have every right to be proud (and he certainly deserves his lego) but I'm sure you also deserve some praise (I know that after my DH was diagnosed he couldn't have done it without his mum and he was older than your DS)

bod, garden and jess good luck for tomorrow! x

shellsocks Mon 01-Jul-13 22:13:34

Me too pink hmm thinking abt stitch too who I knew from here when we had our first DC, hope everyone who has had sad news is being well looked after in RL x

BlackholesAndRevelations Mon 01-Jul-13 22:38:23

God such terrible news on here tonight sad words can't say how sorry I feel for you and how utterly crap this is.

Stars and Alice, I hope you make your way back here soon. Hugs to you and your dhs. Xxx

BlackholesAndRevelations Mon 01-Jul-13 22:46:43

As for me... Even more worried about my 20 week scan now that I just watched panorama- it was all about medication and abnormalities in babies.

I was taking sertraline for PND. I was doing well and cutting down from 100 mg to 50 mg.... Now I'm wondering if that caused the mcs sad.

I stopped cold turkey the weekend I knew I was ovulating and we conceived this one. Apparently it stays in your system for up to 10 days so now I'm worried about heart defects sad they didn't mention sertraline, just citalopram (sp?) and something beginning with p that I can't remember but all are SRRIs.

jmf if you are a doctor do you know anything about this?! Sorry to ask but I've been in floods tonight.

GardenWorm Tue 02-Jul-13 06:01:59

Alice so sad to hear of your loss too. I am also a third time luckier and although fingers are still a little bit crossed I have my 20 week scan today. Please don't think for a minute it will never happen, sadly some things in life just aren't meant to be easy. Big hugs xxx

GardenWorm Tue 02-Jul-13 06:09:13

Blackholes I didn't see panorama but I would say drug ingredients are very specific to each one and precise, if the one you were taking wasn't mentioned I would take that as a good sign, also I don't think anything gets passed to egg so early were they talking about the drugs going from you to baby or them affecting the eggs?? If it's you to baby the drugs would have been out of your system before you got to that stage. Please try not to panic (easy to say i know) you will just make yourself ill xxx

GardenWorm Tue 02-Jul-13 06:13:44

Oh and Happy Scan Day fellow scanneeeees..desperately trying to bring POSIFRICKINTIVITY back into the room xxx grin

Goodluck Gardenwormsmile, are you finding out pink or blue? x

And goodluck to all tuesday scannies todaysmile, can't wait to reach 20wks, i'm hoping i become more relaxed by then! Only 6.5weeks to go lol x

GardenWorm Tue 02-Jul-13 06:39:51

Not unless they are hung like a donkey Pumpkin and it dominates the scan! grin


BlackholesAndRevelations Tue 02-Jul-13 06:59:47

Thank you gardenworm xxx

Good luck to all of you having scans today! smile

Rockchick1984 Tue 02-Jul-13 07:14:26

So sorry stars and alice

Good luck to those of you having scans today!!

5 weeks today, every day is one day closer to (hopefully) meeting my baby smile tries for posifrickintivity

andadietcoke Tue 02-Jul-13 07:20:43

Happy scan day everyone. My next one is two weeks today - scan doom hasn't quite set in yet, but getting there!

But all being well, next month I'll have two babies. Next month...!

IBelieveInPink Tue 02-Jul-13 07:27:58

Happy scan day ladies! Thinking of you lots and looong forward to some much happier news today. (posifrickentivity smile )

Diet - next month?! Eeeeeeek! Wow that seems soon, it's so lovely, feel like we have been with you all the way on this one- yay!!!

IBelieveInPink Tue 02-Jul-13 07:28:41

Looong = looking

andadietcoke Tue 02-Jul-13 07:47:22

Heehee ibip I know. It's a bit of a tenuous claim in that I'm not due until September, but my hospital induce two weeks early for twins, so that will be the end of August.

Know what you mean about the whole journey! The (ex) friend that sent me into a proper post-mc meltdown when she announced her pregnancy just before Christmas had her baby on Sunday. My EDD for my mc is this week too - feels such a long time ago now hmm

IBelieveInPink Tue 02-Jul-13 09:41:26

So what time are people's scan? Can't wait to hear all about them smile

How exciting Anda, not long to go now and you will have two baba's in your arms smile

Can't wait to hear how people got on at their scans todaysmile

jmf294 Tue 02-Jul-13 11:02:27

Black holes- please please don't worry.
I'm a psychiatrist so know about these medications.
The sertraline would have left your body very quickly, well before implantation there would have been none around so when your babies heart was forming there would be certainly nothing there.
There is a very small increased risk of miscarriage so it could have contributed to your miscarriage in the past but impossible to tell.
Programmes like panorama give a very one- sided view on anything, I don't bother watching them!!

Good luck to all the ladies having scans.

IBelieveInPink Tue 02-Jul-13 11:15:53

Jmf - psychiatrist sounds like such a cool job! I always wished I had gone down that route instead of the one I did. smile

jmf294 Tue 02-Jul-13 11:40:24

It's certainly interesting Pink!! However with an increasing bump I sometimes feel a bit nervous and won't be doing emergency work as its an easy target.
What do you do??

GardenWorm Tue 02-Jul-13 11:45:38

On way home from work....ready for scan at 2pm. Eeeek!

IBelieveInPink Tue 02-Jul-13 11:58:48

Jmf - I ended up working in HR. I did my degree in psychology, specialising in crime psychology, counselling, and mental health, which was so much more interesting! However my intentions to go back to it never really materialised. Keep thinking its not to late for a change of career, but it is kinda getting that way now!
Can definitely see why you would want to protect the bump - very important!

Garden - eek!

GardenWorm Tue 02-Jul-13 15:02:08

All good here, flavour still unknown but didn't spot any dangly bits so I am continuing with my girl instinct...I will be in for a surprise if they come out a boy! Lol!

Good luck everyone else x

JanieLovesLuckySocks Tue 02-Jul-13 15:05:51

Woohoo garden!!!! Glad all well smile now where's my time machine to fast forward me to next Monday!

Thinking of you today star x

Lucky are you still feeling sicky? I seem much better today so maybe it was just a wee bug I had. When is your scan? Must be soon? Xx

andadietcoke Tue 02-Jul-13 15:08:58

Yay Garden so pleased for you! Time to relax now and wait for all the lovely kicking and wriggling smile

IBelieveInPink Tue 02-Jul-13 15:18:10

Fab news garden! That's brilliant! Did you get good pics?

GardenWorm Tue 02-Jul-13 15:41:29

Thank you!

Funny you should say that Pink the first thing I said to DH when we came out was 'its a good job she's not a photographer!' Ha Ha! One pic's ok, the others are blurred. Don't mind though; healthy is what matters smile

IBelieveInPink Tue 02-Jul-13 16:20:40

Haha, that's what I thought about ours too! Our 12 week pics are much clearer! Still, like you say, healthy is what matters.how lovely, good to have some good news around here smile

BlackholesAndRevelations Tue 02-Jul-13 16:35:18

Great news garden!! grin

And jmf- thank you so, so much for that, it's made me feel so much better! I had all sorts of horrible feelings last night about letting my babies down and being weak for taking them in the first place sad I needed them though and they got me out of a hole (a blackhole? Haha!)

Determined to try and remain medication free now; I know the triggers from last time and will try hard not to get there again. I'm so happy at the moment.

Thanks again xx

Thinking of stars, Alice and stitch flowers

BlackholesAndRevelations Tue 02-Jul-13 16:36:54

Ps Anda- sooooooooo exciting about your babies coming NEXT MONTH!! December can't come quickly enough for me grin

Reebok Tue 02-Jul-13 16:50:57

For all those still worrying about their precious bean...just wanted to help you stay positive. I had a mmc last year and am currently 37 weeks with a healthy bubba on the way soon. In fact, I almost went into labour this week! Hold on ladies...stay strong and positive (I know it's hard)...you will be holding your precious babies soon enough! X

DIYandEatCake Tue 02-Jul-13 17:26:21

So sad to lose stitch, alice and stars in such a short time, thinking of you all. It's horrible to have bad news on here.

But congratulations garden, so happy for you, you're on the home strait...! How's everyone else with scans today got on?

Feeling a bit peeved not to have my scan date to count down to yet, should be about 3 weeks, too early to chase the hospital but I've been waiting since the 12 week scan for my appointment!

jessw25 Tue 02-Jul-13 18:49:24

Sorry all, very behind on this today!

Alice - not sure if you'll see this now but if you do I'm so so sorry and hope you're getting lots of support at home.

Garden - great news, yay!

DIY - know what you mean, they are so slow to send out the scan date letter aren't they, grrrr! I phoned up and nagged them in the end for my 12 wk one cos was getting so frustrated!

So growth scan today and good result, I think! I say 'I think' cos the consultant isn't coming round to the ward to talk to me about it till tomorrow but the sonographer passed the baby's measurements to her after the scan and came back to DH and I saying 'the consultant is happy but will talk to you properly about it tomorrow' - so I'm tentatively taking that as a good sign.

DH is still really worried about size (he's worried they'll be abnormally small, got himself worked up looking at the screen when the measurements were displayed and it kept saying 33 weeks when I'm 37) but with me being 4ft11, him 5ft3, I don't think we were ever going to have a giant so I'm not surprised by this. I was only 5lb1 and I was a week late for my Mum and our little bean measured 5lb today and I'm only 37 weeks so I think it must be ok. Really hate seeing him so worried and stressed though :-(

Reebok - same stage as me (after my MMC last year) Good luck with the birth :-)

Bodicea Tue 02-Jul-13 18:58:40

Great news on the scans guys.
Mine was also all good. Didn't find out the sex, had to look away for most of it. Have finally taken the plunge and said something on the facebook! well I have been tagged in a bunch of pics looking rather large so pretty much outed anyway xxxx

GardenWorm Tue 02-Jul-13 19:26:48

Whoop Bod and Jess! I had wondered Bod how you would do it and not know the sex smile. Jess that sounds like a good weight to me, they are supposed to gain more in the last few weeks than at any other time (1/2llb a week I think) so if you went to term your baby would be 61/2llb and there is nothing wrong with that! If they were really concerned I'm sure the consultant would have paid you a visit today smile
DIY is that standard in your area? My 20 wk date came through within a week of the 12 wk scan, can you or your midwife give them a nudge?

IBelieveInPink Tue 02-Jul-13 19:27:25

Jess - that's fab news

Bod - im So pleased for you. Does it feel more real now? smile

IBelieveInPink Tue 02-Jul-13 19:29:04

DIY - I booked in for my 20 week at reception after I had had my 12 week. I would just give a prompt, see if you can get a date. Need something to count down to!!

BumpKitty Tue 02-Jul-13 20:03:52

hooray for good scan news grin xx

jessw25 Tue 02-Jul-13 20:08:34

Bod - great news! Hope you are celebrating this evening!

We didnt find out the flavour at the 20 wk one either but at today's the sonographer referred to baby as 'he' when doing the measurements so I wonder if she saw a little winkle..... DH thinks I shouldn't read much into it. Thoughts?!

GuffSmuggler Tue 02-Jul-13 20:33:10

Great to hear good news from scans, hope you ladies can relax a bit and get even more excited x

Bodicea Tue 02-Jul-13 20:55:00

To be honest felt more real when started feeling kicks, pink. So used to seeing scan I forget its actually me if you know what I mean. also got colleagues to have the odd sneaky peak in the run up, so kind of knew it was OK ;-)

Jess i used to have a habit of saying he whether I knew the sex or not. Wouldn't read much into it xxxxx

Bodicea Tue 02-Jul-13 20:57:19

i meant so used to seeing scans!

IBelieveInPink Tue 02-Jul-13 20:57:28

Ha bod- that is a great plus to the job! Although I would blatantly spend all day peeking at what baby is up to!

Pentagon Tue 02-Jul-13 21:33:52

garden, bod and jess congratulations on your good scans!! Very happy for you all! grin

BlackholesAndRevelations Tue 02-Jul-13 21:36:34

Oooh did you have to look away just in case you saw a willy or absence thereof, Bod?! hehe! grin glad everything looks ok for you and for Jess too!

I've had such a lovely couple of days with my kids, so don't want to go to work tomorrow!

Congrats on your scans bod, garden & jessjesssmilesmile, ooh you are all having surprises, how lovelysmilexxx

DIYandEatCake Tue 02-Jul-13 22:26:20

Yay great news on the scans!

I think i might phone the hospital tomorrow to chase up scan, can't do any harm! Flustered receptionist scribbled my name and 20w date on a list and said I'd get an appointment in the post, wasn't filled with confidence at the time... But then I only got my 12w scan date 10 days before...

Definitely feeling kicks occasionally, still very faint though. So can't wait to actually see baby wriggling about and poking hands and feet out. Though am hoping this one won't be head butting me in the ribs for weeks on end like dd did! (She was breech)

JanieLovesLuckySocks Tue 02-Jul-13 22:39:39

Great scan news bod and head and garden smile so great to have some good news today after such a sad day yesterday.

We aren't finding out the flavour either, just counting down until Monday now!

JanieLovesLuckySocks Wed 03-Jul-13 08:02:54

Oops my post should have read bid, jess (not head!!) and garden! Darn phone!

So I seem to be getting sickness, was awake fur about 3 hrs last night feeling really nauseous. Thought I'd lucked out by missing it altogether. I'm wondering is it linked to a huge bump when I woke up this morning? At 19 weeks I just had a tiny little bump, but this morning it's huuuuge! I wonder would a growth spurt cause me to feel sicky?!

GaryBuseysTeeth Wed 03-Jul-13 10:23:39

Congrats on the good scan results garden, Bod and Jess!

Stars, hope yesterday went as well as possible & you're resting up at home. x

Hurrah for your bump & feeling sick Janie! No idea about growth spurt=nausea, but it's been coming in waves for me.

<whispers> packed our hospital bags last night. Howzat for posifrickentivity!

GardenWorm Wed 03-Jul-13 10:50:08

Aaargh! How exciting Gary!!!! What date next month is baby due? X

JanieLovesLuckySocks Wed 03-Jul-13 11:13:17

Oooh bag packing exciting!!!!

IBelieveInPink Wed 03-Jul-13 12:47:54

Janie - I have been getting sicky sporadically. I wasn't sick at all in first trimester, but have been sick a few times in the last 3 weeks. It tends to be food related - when I am hungry or have eaten too much - but i hadn't thought about it been growth related? She seems to have weekly growth spurs so could be?

Gary - wow, bag packing is exciting!!! Remind me how many weeks you are?

Had a lovely morning- DH came home from a weeks holiday and to say welcome home, baby gave him a good kick! Movement has really increased in the last 3 days, an he definitely felt her smile So lovely.

JanieLovesLuckySocks Wed 03-Jul-13 13:50:22

Oh pink that's do exciting that mr pink felt the kick!!! Eek I can't wait for that...so far it's just me!

Maybe I need to eat less dinner, we were at a friends for takeaway last night and didn't end up eating til 9.30 so maybe it was because of that!

DIYandEatCake Wed 03-Jul-13 15:07:53

Aw pink that's lovely! I wish you could record feelings like you can pictures and sounds, there's really nothing like feeling a baby wriggling round inside you is there. I'm going to try to take time to really enjoy it this time, this will be the last baby for us (I'd keep on having them but dp is adamant we're stopping at 2!)

janie hope no more feeling sick. Mmm takeaway... Don't feel like pasta for dinner any more now!

gary wow, hospital bag already! How many weeks to go now?

Well no scan appt is just my hospital being crap, I phoned them today and they said they'd only got as far as booking appointments for next week, nothing further ahead yet, so it will be a while before I can begin my countdown I think! It's ok for me being a sahm but would be nice for dp to give his work a bit more notice and must be annoying for working mums to be.

GardenWorm Wed 03-Jul-13 15:32:43

Cute Pink, baby Pink will have Daddy wrapped around her little finger, they are clever like that!

How annoying of your hospital DIY!

Just had embarrassing conversation at work with my 'big' boss, it seems that before my line manager left their job they forgot to mention to him that I was pregnant in spite of them being adamant that they would. He looked like a plum in front of the rest of the office for not knowing so that went down like a lead balloon....and so the work rubbish begins, my place are not particularly mummy/child friendly in fact I think they try and make it as bloody difficult as possible in the hope you will leave. Humph!

shellsocks Wed 03-Jul-13 17:10:59

Fab scan news garden and bod a few of us not finding out the sex then…will really look forward to the announcements smile And jess glad all is looking good smile

Janie I have felt sick the last couple of days and dizzy again…if it carries on over the weekend gonna go and get BP and iron tested as both were low last PG

Eeeek at bags packed gary I think you are defo having a baby soon grin

I've been in a total state since the scan as not been feeling movements very often compared to with DS at this stage (I know its too early to count the kicks blush) but did the can of ice cold coke test last night and got lots of kicks, cried in relief...defo think I'm having a mad hormone change at the min am crying all the time again confused

JanieLovesLuckySocks Wed 03-Jul-13 21:37:28

Aw shell sorry to hear you're feeling emotional. I was the same in Saturday. I was in town shopping and I fell over on my ankle in a big clothes department store type shop. I had just asked a sales assistant where the maternity bras were and she pointed me in the right direction. In my way I fell over, landed crashing into my knee, and just burst into tears. Not one staff member came over to see if I was ok and I think I was in shock a bit. I cried til bed time in Saturday sad cancelled my plans to go out and just felt really emotional. (I was fine btw, bruise on my knee and arm only)

Bit emotional tonight as well. I've had really sore lower back and I asked DH if he would mind cleaning the bath so I could have a soak and he didn't bother so I've been scrubbing and making my back worse in the meantime. Made me realise he's done bugger all for me since being pg. not cooked dinner, not a little present, not a back rub and told me no way when I asked him if he would mind coming to bed a bit earlier so I could go to sleep without waking up when he got in.

Do your DHs do anything nice for you?

God I'm such a moaner and sound like a (wanabee) spoilt brat! Sorry!

Oh and garden...do you work in my office? My boss is a @@@@ too and doesn't remember pay maternity pay. Tosser.

JanieLovesLuckySocks Wed 03-Jul-13 21:49:50

And all my 'o' seem to be 'i' in that last post. Sausage fingers

andadietcoke Wed 03-Jul-13 22:05:58

[warning self indulgent, selfish post reminiscent of TTC rants]

Please can you all join me in hoping K-Mid keeps her legs crossed for approximately the next 26 hours?

The ex friend whose pregnancy announcement before Xmas sent me into a 'oh shit I didn't actually get over my miscarriage' meltdown had her baby on Sunday and it really unsettled me. DH keeps telling me I can't be sad about tomorrow because we're going to have two babies, but because they're not here safely yet I can't help but remember the baby I lost and feel a bit teary.

So at least ex friend was a few days early. But I really can't cope with a royal baby being born tomorrow angry

BumpKitty Wed 03-Jul-13 22:19:36

anda I will keep my fingers crossed that Kate keeps her legs crossed smile she's not due for another few weeks is she?

janie I had an almighty row with my DH this morning, completely mental shouting and crying right in front of DD, we had a very long talk tonight about how unacceptable this is and part of the reason was that I felt I was doing everything and DH never comes to bed with me, ever! He has taken it on board hopefully as he mowed the lawn then cooked tea tonight, then we watched a film together. Maybe you need to have a big chat with our DH, I think our hormones make us want to feel a bit more cherished and looked after than usual.

BumpKitty Wed 03-Jul-13 22:20:27

Your not our!

Pentagon Wed 03-Jul-13 22:41:43

shell I'm the same during this pregnancy (better since last week though) because I had been feeling DD more at every stage after 17-18 weeks. It turns out my placenta this time is anterior high while last time it was anterior low which I guess explains the difference; and of course not every pregnancy and baby are the same...glad you've felt some strong movements, I sigh with relief every time it happens!

DIY sorry to hear your DH hasn't been very helpful or caring...is he generally like this? Can you talk to him about how his behaviour makes you feel?

Oh anda cyber hug! I know how you feel...with both my MMCs, I had close friends due at the same time (literally a couple of days earlier or later) and was quite upset when they had their babies...fortunately I was pregnant again both times which made it more bearable but only just as still under 12 weeks. You are so close to having your babies and when they are here safely, you will forget about all the pain and upset of the miscarriage (not fully of course but it will feel like a distant bad dream - at least that's what happened to me)

Good night everyone, hope you're all well! x

andadietcoke Thu 04-Jul-13 02:19:03

bump my theory is that she's due this week based on when she was admitted to hospital and when my mc was. And if you were super famous there's no way you'd let the press know your actual EDD - I wouldn't anyway wink

GardenWorm Thu 04-Jul-13 06:25:47

Anda you are right in that she is due earlier than what they have made out but I am hoping for you that she pops late as its her first. (I'm not her Royal Highness' birthing partner or anything but that is 'word on the street' in London town!). Be brave and I hope today goes by quickly and uneventfully x

Sorry to hear some of you have had crappy times with DH's, you have to remember that ultimately they are childlike and can feel neglected whilst you are pregnant and they are no longer your primary concern (I think we all agree first and foremost at the moment our priority is to nurture and have a healthy baby), their noses get put out of joint and they really don't understand what being pregnant does to us! Keep talking x

I've got that Friday feeling today - taken tomorrow off! YEY!!! It's my birthday Saturday. I am old. Still feel 18 but stark realisation this morning that it was 20 years ago.....Sob.

JanieLovesLuckySocks Thu 04-Jul-13 08:14:21

Oh anda i have sent a telegram to Buckingham palace with your request. 'Keep your bits closed today please k mid'. Sorry to hear about ex friend and her news. My best friends baby came a week early in February ( 4months after my mmc) and I hadn't prepared myself to hear the news. I burst into tears, I think of jealousy maybe. I was shocked at how upset it made me and she isn't even an ex friend. But not long til your two little ladies will be in your arms and hopefully you can forget about ex friend x

Thanks for the DH advice, he has a selfish streak and is never generous so I'm not sure why I'm shocked, I just thought he might make a bit more of an effort now I'm pg. There's no talking to him, he doesn't 'do' talking. he asked me last night why I was sulking and I told him and he somehow managed to turn it round on me that it was my fault. He's never wrong in his eyes and doesn't know how to say sorry. I couldn't be bothered anymore. His world seems more important to him. He couldn't even give me a hug after I got home from town after my fall on Saturday ffs sad

Sorry that was a depresso rant again

WhatWillSantaBring Thu 04-Jul-13 10:26:06

Hello ladies, sorry to hear that a lot of people are feeling a bit blue at the moment sad. I think its easy to forget that pregnancy is really really hard - we're growing a human FFS (or two, in dietcoke's case) so not only are we knackered, uncomfortable, clumsy, fat, and feeling sick, but we are also being assaulted by hormones that make PMT look like a walk in the park.

I believe (though don't quote me, I'm not a criminal lawyer) that women have got away with murder when they're pregnant, on the basis that the hormones can send them temporarily insane! <<considers whether to use opportunity to murder a few people while pregnant>>

YY to former due dates being hard - I still get jealous of people further along than me, which is ridiculous. I think its all part of the grieving process - you never "get over it", it just gets easier to live with over time. So we convince ourselves we're fine as we're lucky enough to be pg again, then an announcement comes and boom, we're crashed right back down to the reality that we lost a baby.

Frankly, I'd like K-Mid to keep her legs crossed till September 1 please, so that her DC is in the same school year (and therefore same university year) as my DC. Because frankly, if Carole can do it, so can I. <<sharpens elbows, prepares to social climb like you've never seen before>> <<otherwise we're relying on you dietcoke and gary I think we'd all like wedding invites please>>

jessw25 Thu 04-Jul-13 11:14:17

Sorry we're a bit emotional and fed up ladies :-( Are we all eating enough chocolate?! Honestly I'm getting through it here, proper emotional/anxious/bored eating! Men just don't get it sometimes do they :-( Hope all your DHs start to see sense.

Big hug anda - one of my close friends gave birth last year a couple of days before my ERPC after the MC and it was horrendous. I put on a brave face but was dying inside. Then this year, even though I was into my second trimester, when two other riends BOTH had their babies at start of May, it still sent me a bit over the edge with jealousy and frustration that I wasn't there yet and also that they had it a lot easier than me in order to get to that point.

Janie - your telegram to buck palace bit made me laugh so much that I almost (...I didn't, thank goodness!!) had something happen that wouldve been my comeuppance for getting really bad with my pelvic floor exs, ooops! TMI?! Sorry if so! How dedicated are you all at doing them out of interest? I was good at start but then haven't really bothered since!

jmf294 Thu 04-Jul-13 12:16:29

Fabulous idea to eat chocolate Jess- will pop out and get done soon. I hope you are being kept in good supply. Are you into the tennis- can help to pass your time.

Andadietcoke - thoughts with you today lovely, I doubt the royal baby will come today.
Imagine the pressure on the hospital!! Funny thing is her 2 specialists are gyanecologists not obstetricians!
I think of this baby as a special gift from the one I lost, my little baby I lost in January was too poorly to survive but will be forever loves and never forgotten.
But I still worry this one wont make it.

I have my admin day at work today- very bored, would rather be at home watching tennis and eating chocolate.
Hugs to you all xx

shellsocks Thu 04-Jul-13 13:35:48

Aw janie tough times with your DH sounds like you (or someone else?) needs to have a good word with him, tell him what you need from him. I'm v lucky my DH is fantastic, he looks after me a lot with my PGP...only trouble we have is re his parents hmm

Ooo what you doing for your birthday garden smile

santa I agree PG is so hard and we have extra mental/emotional pressure that other women don't have....I recommend rolo and aero biscuits for all...I've just discovered them they are amazing! (Maryland gooey cookies toowink)

JanieLovesLuckySocks Thu 04-Jul-13 13:42:30

Thanks girls. I highly recommend sucking your tea up through a king size twix. It's awesome smile

Pixielady83 Thu 04-Jul-13 14:07:15

ah lovely to hear some good scan news ladies!

anda hope you are ok today. I haven't passed a due date yet but am dreading it.

janie my DH does that turning everything round to make it your fault thing. he learnt it from his parents who were experts at emotional blackmail it would appear. I've pulled him up on it time and again but its his default defence mechanism and it infuriates me angry

I am 5 weeks pregnant now smile haven't seen gp yet, waiting til I clear 6 wks. work has been so stressful this week I've barely thought about it which is good, although I did have a panic about the effect stress could be having on the pregnancy. fortunately I only work part time so can escape from it for half the week. In other news we have sold our beloved volkwagen camper this week sad we don't spend enough time on her and she barely gets used so its good another family will be taking her on adventures. sad though, it was DH and my first purchase together, lots of happy memories of trips! we are taking her on one last hoorah to the lakes this weekend smile

shellsocks Thu 04-Jul-13 14:59:06

janie I used to suck up tea through a spira smile good times grin

JanieLovesLuckySocks Thu 04-Jul-13 15:04:56

Oh shell spira and hot chocolate was my ALL time favourite, they don't make spiras any more though boohoo...unless you've found some?!

Ooh spira's i used to love them!

Was so positive and then today on the way home from school run felt some quite nasty tummy cramps, nearly 14 weeks-trying to not think the worst as it could be round ligament pain, it's stopped now but it really shat me upconfused.

andadietcoke Thu 04-Jul-13 16:18:07

pumpkin could just be stretching pains - I had cramps until about 21w. If there's no blood, don't worry. And take paracetamol - it will help with the pain which will stop the anxiety - now is not the time to be a hero wink

LuckySocks13 Thu 04-Jul-13 18:56:59

Hi all. So I'm in week 20 now and had my scan today ! Had to take the lucky socks in my handbag as wore flip flops! All seemed we and was confirmed that we are team pink as was thought at 12 weeks. That means I will have one of each. Also feeling sick and dizzy this week and have a large bump. Everyone keeps saying "not due until November?!" And looking shocked! So I obviously look like a hippo and only half way! Took DSis to scan as DH had to work. Sis loved it. DH has just arrived home and forgotten i e even been today! He is hopeless! Also not done anything different to usual. Even commented this week that I'm pregnant not ill. Goodness I just sneezed blush need to do those pelvic floors! Anyway 2mor I may tell people what we having and may even may even mention something on Facebook. Am getting excited now!

I do hope so Anda, feel much better nowsmile, thankyou for the paracetamol tip worked a treat!

Ooh exciting times Lucky, a little girlsmile, 20 weeks too, you are half way there already xx

JanieLovesLuckySocks Thu 04-Jul-13 19:18:27

pumpkin i have experienced cramps but i'm pretty sure (after plenty panicking that they were stretching pains. there's a heck of a lot going on in our wee tummies so it's bound to hurt. as anda said, no blood = good. hope they ease off. (or it could be wind!)

lucky that's fab news! i didn't realise your scan was today! lovely that you;re having a little girl smile there seem to be lots of girls here...is anyone having a boy? i might have to do the socks in the bag trick on monday as we're due to get a bit of a heatwave. i picture me in cut off trousers and my hedgehog socks and shoes just to keep up tradition ha!

i came home and DH had started to make dinner!! nothing fancy, just heating up what we had last night but this is a BIG step. we had a bit of a screaming match this morning as he accused me of still sulking... 'of course i'm sulking i feel like i'm fucking invisible!' (excuse language x). he didn't mention our row, heating up tea seems to maybe be his way of saying sorry. we'll see. chocolate and flowers would have been nice. and a voucher for a prego massage. and a new bra. and a night away. ok i'm getting carried away!

Funny how the subject of Dh's have been bought up today, mine has been rather lazy of late and i'm always the one running the bath & making dinner confused. But so far today there has been progress, the dinner was made by dh & has even got the hoover out, although leaving the wire trailing through the loung for me to pick up grrr.

I could do with a nice bubbly bath, some lovely salt n vinegar snacks bought to my door aswell as a nice bunch of flowers-oh well a girl can dream...

IBelieveInPink Thu 04-Jul-13 19:26:36

Sorry everyone seems to be having a tough day, apart from lucky and your fabulous pink news! How exciting, welcome to team pink!! smile

Pumpkin - cramps are definitely, definitely normal. I had lots of these, even still get them on occasions.

JanieLovesLuckySocks Thu 04-Jul-13 19:56:17

pixie sorry to hear that your camper is moving to pastures new. do you think you;ll get something else fun to replace it? it's not the same, but i'm trying to decide if i should sell my beloved mini to make room for a bambino and all the extras they come with! i actually said i would only sell it if i could get a camper!

LuckySocks13 Thu 04-Jul-13 20:04:52

I love love love campers smile I wanted one but I settled on a pop up caravan as DH thought the camper would break down all the time. They are just gawwwwwjus though. I'm sure she will be much loved in her new home smile

Pixielady83 Thu 04-Jul-13 20:42:59

yay for being team pink lucky that's so exciting!

yes we love campers too! however we have grown far less spontaneous since dd and DH has spent most weekends on his PhD for the last 3 yrs so we just don't use her enough. we also got tired of camping in mud and the, erm, slight uncertainty about whether you would get somewhere without AA assistance! I think we will look for a newer one maybe after a bit of saving. whilst camping in this country seems to be a wash out mostly we have had some amazing Europe trips and would love to do more in the future, its a very child friendly way to travel not least because you don't have to be selective about what to take on hol, you just take blooming everything! (very unorganised mum packer here esp when dd was v small, I had to take everything for every eventuality, including on one trip 2 different pushchairs blush )

Janey I'm sure you can get a nice pushchair in your mini. but if not it sounds like a campervan will be in order grin

GardenWorm Thu 04-Jul-13 20:58:29

YEY! YEY! YEY Lucky - Team Pink is awesome grin

BumpKitty Thu 04-Jul-13 21:28:27

Lovely news lucky smile team pink rocks! I'm finding it really hard to pick names though!

anda i'm so naive, it never crossed my mind that Kate would be so sneaky - but makes perfect sense. I hope you have got through today ok.

Janie - definitely sounds like he has been doing a bit of thinking, I hope this is a sign of things to come.

pixie I hope your camper will be very happy with her new family grin

jmf294 Thu 04-Jul-13 21:33:55

Great news on the scan Lucky!!

DIYandEatCake Thu 04-Jul-13 21:48:53

Yay congratulations on the scan lucky!

janie - hope this is the start of a bit more sympathy! Dp is a bit crap too, but strangely last pg got a lot better towards the end when I looked very pregnant. When I actually felt great! Got no sympathy when bump was small and I felt crap and could have really used some help.

Stressing a bit here as just found out that a child at a toddler group we went to yesterday has slapped cheek - can cause horrible complications for the baby if you catch it before 20w pregnant (I'm 17 now). My mum doesn't remember me having it before so I'm unlikely to be immune - going to go to gp tomorrow, think they do blood tests? Do I remember right that someone else here was exposed to it and tested, or was that something else? Just hoping that I've been lucky and not caught it.

JanieLovesLuckySocks Thu 04-Jul-13 21:55:27

diy yes i'm hoping dh might be a bit better later on n the pg... i kinda think that he still doesn't really believe it's happening. scan on monday so i'm just hoping that after that he might change. but i keep hoping he'll change! aarrggh!

re. the slapped cheek - i don't think you have to have had it to be immune, i think the majority of people are immune naturally, but best to get checked just in case. a girl in my book club advised that her son had it one night and i was in the 2 week wait and obv didn't want to tell the group i was ttc so i just made sure to sit at the opposite end of the table from her and didn't share any of her food or drinks just in case! fx all ok for you

jmf294 Thu 04-Jul-13 22:03:57

DIY- it was me with the suspected contact with slap cheek.
I thought my daughter had it.
You need to call up and get a blood test tomorrow to see if you are immune- the results take about a week to come back. Most people are immune and will have had it without realising. Hope all will be okxx

DIYandEatCake Thu 04-Jul-13 23:31:28

Thanks - I'm going to phone the gp in the morning.

BlackholesAndRevelations Fri 05-Jul-13 06:42:05

I had it in my class and had to have almost two weeks off while I waited for blood results! Turned out I am immune from ages ago. Chances are you've picked it up if not in your own childhood, then from one of the toddler groups! Hope you are immune!

Great news on scan, lucky!

ChocolateCremeEggBag Fri 05-Jul-13 07:49:50

Garden - it's my birthday tomorrow too! Except I have not been clever enough to take today off sad

Re the DH not getting how hard bein.g pg is - mine is usually pretty good, but he has already commented about how much weight I've put on (a stone just about) - I can still get into all my clothes albeit can't do up waistbands hmm but I know he's trying in his own way to look out for me as I have been pigging out on chocolate (Kit Kat straw with coffee for me).

I have started to get stabby pains in my pubic bone (SPD/PGP?) told my Mw in 16 week apt on wed, but she wasn't much help. Told me that my 24week apt was very much optional so unless I want it not to go back until end of Sept. felt a bit weird tbh considering how many apts I had with DS.

JanieLovesLuckySocks Fri 05-Jul-13 09:26:04

Happy birthday for tmro garden and choc!!! And it's to be really sunny yay!! Get the non alcoholic beers out!

Sorry if my slapped cheek info was incorrect

I have ex friend news today too (must be the week for it). Just discovered ex friend is also pregnant... Really knocked me for six. If I ever have to see her with a bump or a baby, I swear I would not be able to be nice to her.

At least it's Friday and only 71hrs 35mins til our scan

andadietcoke Fri 05-Jul-13 10:59:11

I can sympathise janie - but yes, it's not long until Tuesday, and the weekends always go quicker grin

My next one is a week on Tuesday so I'm a week later - at that scan they're unlikely to move so they'll decide on a mode of delivery.

I'm off work today and doing bugger all - it's a lovely state of affairs. Both babies are wriggling and the sun is shining, and I've just done an ocado shop that includes baby wipes, nipple cream, maternity pads and nappies so I can pack a hospital bag just in case. Just need to buy a few more tiny baby vests and babygros and I'm ready(ish).

For those of you with DCs already, how many vests and babygros did you have to start off with?

JanieLovesLuckySocks Fri 05-Jul-13 12:52:14

Oh maybe I added my hours up wrong. My scan is Monday!!

I've no babies yet so no advice on clothes but did find a good thread on here called 'what does a newborn wear', pretty glad I found it as I'm clueless! X

andadietcoke Fri 05-Jul-13 13:25:44

No janie it's me - in my world all scans are always on a Tuesday. I reject any assertions that any of you may make about having scans on different days of the week!! grin

LuckySocks13 Fri 05-Jul-13 13:46:20

Not long to wait now janie. Pack those socks ready! I'm flipping melting today! Phew! I have no idea how many vests etc we had with DS. He had reflux and went through loads a day! I vira it depends if you have sicky babies and how often you like to do your washing / drying. Go for some cheap supermarket ones. Can ways pop out and get more when bubbas arrive smile x

LuckySocks13 Fri 05-Jul-13 14:04:07

Not long to wait now janie. Pack those socks ready! I'm flipping melting today! Phew! I have no idea how many vests etc we had with DS. He had reflux and went through loads a day! I vira it depends if you have sicky babies and how often you like to do your washing / drying. Go for some cheap supermarket ones. Can ways pop out and get more when bubbas arrive smile x

BumpKitty Fri 05-Jul-13 15:15:40

Happy birthday for tomorrow garden and choc got to love a Saturday birthday grin
choc I completely agree re mw and GP visits. I see my GP at 25 weeks and that will be the first time! And mw visit at 16 weeks then not till 28! Good job we all have this thread or we'd forget we were pg smile
I can't rem how many vests I had but I know I was advised to only get 0 - 3 month and not newborn and it was bad advice! The sleep suits were huge for a newborn and DD was 7lbs 14oz so not tiny by any means. I had to send DH to sainsburys to get some newborn stuff. Also each shop seems to size it's clothes completely differently, Asda and Mothercare clothes are massive and Next are quite small, but this is from 2.5 years ago so may have changed.
Also the baby vests have the special envelope shoulders not only so you can get them over their huge heads but also so you can completely remove the vest down the body rather than take it off over the head. this is handy when the nappy explodes with poo as you don't have to drag it past the baby's head ( nobody told me this hmm)

GardenWorm Fri 05-Jul-13 15:54:51

Choc we have the best birthday date - love it that it's usually hot(ish) and sunny(ish)!

Anda I would get a couple of vests/grows that are smaller than new born (cant remember what they call them! Tiny baby????) as newborn is actually quite big. My DD was 7lb7oz and the vests swamped her, didn't care so much about baby grows as I think they look quite cute oversized! Also once they start poohing their runny yellow pooh no nappy can contain it so you will need a few spares ;o)

GardenWorm Fri 05-Jul-13 15:56:56

Ha ha wrote that without reading Bumps

DIYandEatCake Fri 05-Jul-13 16:02:18

anda you need more vests and babygros than you think! I took three sets for dd (thinking I was likely to be in hospital for 3 days, so an outfit a day...) and she got through the lot in a day. For newborns I'd reckon on about 3 outfits a day. Of course if it's really hot they'll probably just want a vest on. Outfits need to be changed when the ineptly put on nappy leaks, and also many babies constantly dribble up bits of puke (lovely I know!) I also spilled orange juice on dd blush...

Feeling quite weepy this afternoon, hormones are getting the better of me and dd and I had a disastrous trip to town... Thought I'd just try popping into a couple of shops while dd hopefully snoozed after a couple of hours in the park, instead refused to sit in the pushchair, rampaged, pooed her pants in one shop, then started pulling pants off so it got all over her legs and hands too... Then later screamed when I tried to persuade her to use the toilet and wet herself and shoes so had to go in pushchair with bare feet so screamed even louder... Am feeling a bit guilty for shouting at her now, she is only 2 and a bit and that's what 2 and a bit year olds do, but... Nnnnnnngggh! She is now sleeping off the trauma and I'm eating chocolate and on here when I should be doing the laundry. Right, back to it! Sorry for the rant blush

shellsocks Fri 05-Jul-13 16:43:45

Janie I forgot to ask, how do you get tea up a twix?! grin And no, not had a spira for yonks…you must all try the aero biscuits tho (and rolo are good too) they are delicious smile

Brill scan news lucky and fantastic to hear you are having a girl grin am very happy for you smile

Happy birthday garden and choc for tomorrow smile

choc you can ring and get a MW appt at any time and if you suspect PGP you should as the earlier you can see a physio the better…I feel weird too abt the lack of appts second time round.

anda I second getting smaller sizes than you would think…DS was 8.8lb so not small and he didn’t fit 0-3 for quite while…I’m another who only took 3 changes to hospital and had to send DH for loads more! DS wasn’t sicky at all either, you just seem to go thru them confused

DIY that sounds like the shopping trip from hell shock glad you are relaxing now, you deserve it!

JanieLovesLuckySocks Fri 05-Jul-13 17:16:43

Aw DIY your day sounds like it went from bad to worse sad hope the chocolate and some sofa time is making you feel better.

Shell my friend taught me the sucky twix tea trick...just bite each end off and suck really hard (ha that sounds a touch vulgar haha!!) so the tea comes up. the biscuity bit goes mushy and the caramel goes even more gooey, then you just shove it all in your mouth and wonder if life could possibly ever get any better smile mmmm!!

JanieLovesLuckySocks Fri 05-Jul-13 17:17:14

And mmm aero biscuits will be in my list smile

Oh diy sounds like a testing day!, i remember days like this all to well, and many more to come as i haven't started potty training dd yet! Hope you are resting this afternoon & put your feet up x

Anda oooh exciting times, and i second getting a few extra sleepsuits, it's surpising how many you go through and even more with twins toosmile. I bought a newborn layette for each of mine, around 6 sleepsuits newborn size, going home outfit, light jacket, 6 vests and obviously a whole pkt of nappies for the hospital, aswell as wipes- plus you never know whether they are sicky babas until they come!

Mmm janie that twix trick sounds divine, i'm drooling like a puppy thinking of it. Must buy some Twix!

ldt87 Fri 05-Jul-13 19:12:10

Hi everyone, just off to catch up on how things are for you all. I've not been on much as been feeling rotten all week!

I booked in with the midwife yesterday after my private scan on Sunday and I'm now 9 weeks 3 days. I'm almost at the stage I lost last time so waiting to
Pass that point, but feeling good about the early scan and booking in.

I have my 12 week scan on the 22nd so now it's just a case of waiting for then. I hope everyone is okay and I'll go back and have a read now xx

jmf294 Fri 05-Jul-13 20:13:36

Andadietcoke - I had at least 15 vests and babygros.
If you have a c-sec you will be in 2-3 nights and you pr

jmf294 Fri 05-Jul-13 20:16:31

Stupid phone!!
You will need 3 outfits per baby per 24 hours to be on the safe side!! Newborn was quite big on my daughter who was 6 lbs 14. 0-3 months clothes are huge and my nephew who was 10lbs still was in newborn size.

jmf294 Fri 05-Jul-13 20:19:04

Happy birthday to Choc and Garden - hope you both have a lovely day.

DIY - what a horrid afternoon, hope you feel better now.

Hope everyone has a lovely weekend- I'm watching the tennis now- is Murray about to lose?

andadietcoke Fri 05-Jul-13 20:24:35

Oh my goodness. Asda tiny baby is up to 6lb, newborn is 9lb. Next's first size is up to 7lb. M&P petit newborn is up to 7lb.

That's great jmf, thanks. So I need 30 vests and 30 babygros? With maybe half first size (up to 7lb) and half newborn (up to 9lb)? Does that sound about right?

jmf294 Fri 05-Jul-13 20:44:52

30 is quite a lot isn't it!!
I always like to have more so less pressure on getting them washed straight away. Same with school uniform- 5 sets in the wardrobe at the start of the week makes life easier all round.
So exciting isn't it.
I have lots of baby clothes but I will buy this baby all new outfits for the hospital, can then have the hand downs when we get home. I actually love seeing my children's old clothes, lots of happy memories associated with them and will like seeing them worn again.

IBelieveInPink Fri 05-Jul-13 20:58:09

Oh my goodness. Diet this feels real!! And I have been buying everything in 0-3 as I assumed she is going to be big (big babies run in the family) but I guess I need a bit of newborn stuff? Someone said before about having one bag of stuff in hospital, and spares in the boot of the car for when you run out. Maybe you could do that?

We have just been playing games with baby. We poke her, and she kicks back! Can actually see the kicks now.... So much fun! smile

LuckySocks13 Fri 05-Jul-13 21:14:55

Birthday wishes Chocolate and Garden for 2mor.
Pink how lovely feeling all those kicks smile think I've started to feel little something's the last 2 days. I'm also a bit uneasy at the lack of appointments this time around. Be nice for some extra reassurance and support after what we have all been through.
After a positive 20 week scan I have outed myself on Facebook. Felt I wanted to share the joy and love I feel for this baby girl . DS seems happy to be having a little sister. He wants to call her Lola like in Charlie and Lola on cbeebies!

y2k1sophie Fri 05-Jul-13 21:41:42

Anda I'm a paediatrician so worked loads on postnatal wards. I agree with the total of 30 but with you having twins I think it's unlikely you'll need any outfits in the up to 9lb size. I'd get them all in first size (or small baby or whatever it's called). Small and premature babies (eg those born at 35-36 weeks) get cold very quickly in baggy clothes and then need admitting to SCBU to keep them warm and check for infection etc. You'll need a cardie or two each plus socks in case they have trouble keeping themselves warm. I'd consider this good advice for anyone actually, not just twins.

Pentagon Fri 05-Jul-13 21:41:49

lucky great news on your scan! and one more for team pink, yay!!

anda you're getting your hospital bag ready! How exciting!! I really don't remember how many babygros - or what sizes - I had for DD, I need to unpack everything soon and refresh my memory...

Garden. choc best wishes for your birthday tomorrow, have a wonderful day!

DIY it sounds like a traumatic afternoon out for both of you...I hope the chocolate has helped and you're feeling a bit better

We're on holiday in Greece (that's why I wasn't online yesterday), the weather's great but I see that it's the same in the UK - obviously we picked the wrong week to go away! wink Baby's moving more and more which is a relief and so, so wonderful!

IBelieveInPink Fri 05-Jul-13 21:53:52

Yay for kicks lucky! That's fab news!

An happy birthday to the birthday girls tomorrow. What a lovely sunny weeked to have birthdays! smile

LuckySocks13 Fri 05-Jul-13 22:16:53

Ldt: glad you had a good early scan smile one day at a time is one step closer. Keep up with the positivity.

LuckySocks13 Fri 05-Jul-13 22:17:36

Happy holiday pentagon smile

BumpKitty Fri 05-Jul-13 23:11:28

Just had some lemon barley water to get into the Wimbledon spirit and I think the baby likes it grin

DIYandEatCake Sat 06-Jul-13 07:25:33

Happy birthday choc and garden! Hope you have a great day. And happy holiday pentagon.

Peace restored here for now, and yay it's weekend! Forgot to mention, had blood test yesterday so waiting for results, have calmed down about it a bit now though and just hoping I haven't caught it.

LuckySocks13 Sat 06-Jul-13 07:42:42

Fingers crossed for immunity DIY . Busy weekend here and it's going to be a scorcher! School fete today and out on a steam train and picnic tomorrow. Sun cream, hats and water at the ready!

Happy Birthday choc & garden thanksthankswineHope you both have a smashing day!smile

Diy hope your results come back all clear x

Pentagon envy Greece i'm so jealous, must be beautiful out theresmile

Hope everyone enjoys their weekends in this beautiful weather, i'm off to the zoo my dh & my dc today along with a gigantic picnic. Hoping to get lots of photos of the animals & a peaceful train ridegrin, oh well i can only hope with my lot lol!

Still haven't had my nt bloods back, can't remember how long they take, trying not to think about it as the measurements were good!
Got my second mw app next week, hoping to hear baba's heartbeat for the 1st timesmile

Bodicea Sat 06-Jul-13 07:54:04

happy birthday to choc and garden. what a fab day for a birthday. hope you are doing something nice.

yay for coming out on fb lucky xxxx

sympathy for choc. us newbies have got all this to come!

went out on date night last night with dh. few drinks and nice meal. think he was hoping luck was in but felt so bloated from meal wouldn't let him near me. anyone else starting to get really full and uncomfortable after eating ? only 21 weeks thought I wouldn't be this bad this soon!

BlackholesAndRevelations Sat 06-Jul-13 08:11:51

Pumpkin, we're at exactly the sane stage by the sounds if it, my 16 week appointment next week too! Exciting!

Jmf, pumpkin- how have people reacted when they've found out you're expecting again? Most people have been lovely but I've also had genuine horror from a couple of colleagues: "oh my god, was it planned?!" "are you mad?! I can't imagine having three!" how bloody rude is that!

I'm 14Wk + 3 days on tuesday when i see mw so just 2wks behind you blackholes smile

andadietcoke Sat 06-Jul-13 11:58:42

Happy birthday choc and garden - lovely day for it!

pumpkin my NT results took about two months to come through in the post - I rang the hospital after four and they gave me them over the phone. If you haven't heard anything within a week of the test it's probably low risk.

Bootyluscious Sat 06-Jul-13 12:03:11

Hi everyone - sorry to always dip in and out, I don't have much chance to get on at the moment but have a question if I may? I'm 16 weeks woop! (Blackholes we are week buddies!) and last week bump suddenly appeared, albeit very small - today however it seems to feel smaller?! blush Anyone else had changing bump size at this stage?

Good luck to all with scans - I'm very jealous of Anda with your tiny little pink bundles coming soon and Janie for your twix!! Want a twix now...

BumpKitty Sat 06-Jul-13 13:24:24

bod yes heartburn and or indigestion pretty much every meal, and especially bad heartburn with chocolate sad is there no fun to be had!

booty yes my bump changed loads, sometimes hard and proper and sometimes like flab - it's just the baby moving places I suppose.

JanieLovesLuckySocks Sat 06-Jul-13 14:49:13

Bod I also get a bit of tummy ache after eating too much, especially off I have a lot of bread so trying to cut down on that. I feel like it would be better if I could have a good big fart ha!! But my office position isn't the best for that ha ha!!!

Booty my bump is ever changing, I swear it was bigger a week ago! if I wake up in the morning and lie on my back and rub my tum I can tell its still there! I'm not really showing much if I dress it well, although I would love a perfectly round wee bump and can't wait to show it off! Instead I'm just a bit flabby(er)!

LuckySocks13 Sat 06-Jul-13 14:57:01

My bump shape and size changes too. People keep telling me I'm enormous ! shock in def feeling kicks! So happy smile been to school feat with DS and spent a fortune on nothing and now chilling in the garden with the paddling pool. Unhelpful DH has gone for a lie down! Something wrong there I'm sure! DH pointed out a few days ago that my lower back is swollen. Am bit worried as having quite a lot of back ache. Can't get to the Drs until end of next week though due to training at work.

GardenWorm Sat 06-Jul-13 16:40:29

Thanks for the birthday wishes peeps!

Happy Birthday Choc

This is what July birthdays should be about; sunshine in the garden. Loving it!

JanieLovesLuckySocks Sat 06-Jul-13 20:07:26

sorry to hear about your sore back lucky. mine is very sore when i wake up in the morning, really sore down into the sides of my bum but seems to get better if i have a walk about a bit. i got a lumber support (in poundland) for my seat in work and it seems to help a bit but i think i need to treat myself to a good maternity massage.

we went to visit some friends and their babies today and came away having bought their pram off them!! now the proud owners of a bugaboo cameleon!!!!! can't believe it! i hadn't even looked at them in the shops as i knew i'd never be able to afford one but they sold it to us for £200! and the base fits in my mini!! just have to get the maxi cosi car seat and attachment and we're in business!! meeeeep!!

hope you birthday girls are having a great day with lots of sunshine smile

Bodicea Sat 06-Jul-13 20:57:32

Awesome janie, wish I knew someone selling there bugaboo! Think we are almost definitely getting one. Although DH wants a recaro car seat coz they make racing car seats. He is a bit of a petrol head!

Hope back improves lucky. I would take rest of evening off and get DH to get out of bed.

My bump appears to get bigger as the day goes on. Have to loosen the bobble on my work trousers by the end of day. Have just ordered some black maternity trousers for work. Perhaps should have checked with my boss first but I have just been handed a pile of old uniforms that people handed in when they left and I cant keep going up a size in our lovely burgundy trousers as they are mahhooosive every where else on me!

CamomileHoneyVanilla Sat 06-Jul-13 21:11:52


Tentatively and very anxiously dipping my toe in on this thread. About 4+2 so gut wrenchingly early days. Been really teary since finding out which is odd as a BFP is what I've wanted obsessively for five months; I suspect its a combination of anxiety and some new hormones. What is the earliest I can go for some kind of 'viability' scan?

Its lovely to catch up with you all and so amazing how far on you all are - gives me a bit of posifrickintivity through the mild hysteria.

Happy Birthdays Choc and Garden.