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Hyperemesis Support

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LucindaE Fri 21-Jun-13 17:52:14

We need a new thread.

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

I used to include extracts from MOH's wonderful website
but I think that makes this link less visible so am merely putting the link. The information on this site is invaluable for sufferers, with information about medications, coping strategies, hospital admissions, useful links, advice for family members, and much more.

I would like to thank MOH and Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.

LucindaE Fri 21-Jun-13 18:00:22

OK, I've got a pile of cyber cushions here for everybody to collapse on.

Collapsing on a cyber cushion after a long day! Positive news is I had my growth scan and the little one has grown. He is still little but growing and that's all I wanted to know.

Hoping for a less pukey weekend! I have a repeat prescription for ondansetron and fortisip which might see me right up to the arrival. 5.5 weeks til the due date so not so long in the grand scheme of things.

Thanks for the new thread lucinda

RNJ3007 Fri 21-Jun-13 18:42:36

* collapses in a heap *

2.5 hours in hospital this afternoon, what fun! Being referred up to OH and physio, as I now can barely walk. Lost another 1.3kg though.

On a positive, my liver and kidney function are just within normal limits. Phew! Managed to get down to 2 ketones! Bub kicked the Doppler repeatedly, so consultant is happy that he's active etc. Scans booked for 32, 34 & 36w as I'm measuring 4w behind.

Thinking of all you lovely ladies and hope you get some relief soon.

LucindaE Fri 21-Jun-13 19:41:14

You poor things, let me add some more cyber cushions. Good news about tests, anyway, and reduced ketones.

Sally8655 Fri 21-Jun-13 19:54:05

I think it may be some good news for me too. I've taken the first ondansetron and think it may have taken the edge off the sickness. My GP only have me 6 x 4 mg tablets for the weekend, however I think if I had 8mg it would have made a huge difference. I can't double them up as I only have 5 left till Monday but its a start :-) I know ill be able to get some more from the hospital next week. Yay!!

Great news sally smile I am on oral ondansetron, and have 3 * 4mg a day. I also have ranitidine to help with the acid caused by vomiting, and ordered some glycerin suppositories off Amazon to help with the ondansetron-related blockages blush

I'm off to bed soon, much as the cyber cushions are comfy, I think I'll sleep better in bed

RNJ3007 Fri 21-Jun-13 21:25:15

Great news indeed sally.

I feel your...pain, waves. Ondansetron plus iron has been a, erm, experience?!?! Glycerol supps, Boots do big boxes. I used my boots card points, haha!

I too have a lovely repeat 'scrip - I get boxes of 60x4mg every 2.5 weeks. Fortisip and I do not get on it seems. 5.5 weeks to go eh? Good luck. 10 weeks til EDD, but today was about 50% effaced and 1-2cm dilated, showing that the niggly cramps feeling may be more serious. Think I've finally absorbed that news. Hoping to make it til at least the due month though. Fingers crossed eh?

Fingers crossed RNJ that you hold on til your due month. Apparently it can be many weeks before active labour that the cervix effaces to that extent, with the accompanying dilation so hope that's the case for you.

I was speaking about fortisip to my consultant yesterday and the general yuckiness of it, and explained how I have been making it into icecubes, icelollies and jelly, and said maybe I should write a fortisip recipe book. Maybe I will put down a list of ideas and how much to dilute it, in case it helps other people?

I have to try to get protein in me for the last few weeks apparently. I don't eat white or red meat (a little fish but the smell is awful so haven't been on that during this pregnancy), so am not sure what is best. (whether I tolerate it is another matter but I'll try!)

RNJ3007 Sat 22-Jun-13 08:41:04

After my run of contractions at 27w, I was checked and my cervix was long and firm and less than 1cm dilated, so it's a change, which isn't great. Trying to take it easy!

You really should write that book, I'd certainly be interested!

Protein is hard. Quinoa, beans? If you find something that works, please share, I too am struggling with protein.

Sally8655 Sat 22-Jun-13 10:44:35

Hi everybody, what a strange night I had. Tossing and turning all night, trying to sleep, but felt so restless. Then after finally getting to sleep at about 3 woke this morning with a right sweat on!
My ondansetron seems to still be taking the edge off the sickness still though. Was able to have some strawberries and a cereal bar for breakfast which I've so far kept down, although the thought still makes me slightly nauseas.
Can anybody tell me though if they suffered from dizziness and complete exhaustion. It could be that it is my ME/CFS as I also suffer from this, however I don't think so as its just been the past month.
If it is pregnancy related, will this improve or do you normally suffer the whole duration. It's nice that the nausea is improving with the new drugs and I'm able to eat a little but unfortunately still stuck in bed for now.
Hope you all feel a little better this morning xx

Make the most of the opportunity to rest in bed sally. I learned the hard way that overdoing it has bad consequences.

I've had dizziness and exhaustion which was worse in first and second trimesters. I have low blood pressure naturally which has gone lower during the pregnancy which has caused blackouts as well. If concerned, speak to your gp though. So glad the medication is helping you

feekerry Sat 22-Jun-13 11:51:22

Oh god oh god. I think its happening again....
I had hg with dd1 and am now 6weeks with dc2 and felt fine up until couple of days ago but now sat here in tears as i feel it starting all over again. Don't think i can do this again....sad

Sally8655 Sat 22-Jun-13 12:13:52

I completely sympathise feekerry, this is my first pregnancy. Was diagnosed with HG early, as I started being severely sick from 4 weeks. (Didn't even know it started that early) it was like one day I was tired the next 24/7 sickness.
Did you have anything that helped the first time round? I heard if you start medication as soon as it starts it is more effective.
I waited to see if i could cope before giving into medication and only just found something that helps a bit after a month of hell. I hope it's not as bad for you this time and it passes soon xx

feekerry Sat 22-Jun-13 12:22:17

Well i ended up hospitalized twice last time at 6 &8 weeks and finally got it under control with both ondansatron and cyclzine but had to take up to and including in labour. I had 12 weeks of work too.
So i do know what will work this time but i just don't know if i can cope with and poor dd.
Felt fine till the other day so thought this time it would be different sad

Sally8655 Sat 22-Jun-13 13:31:07

So did you take ondansetron and cyclizine at the same time? Was it more effective this way and can you remember the dosage you used. I spoke with thd hospital today and they advised they won't prescribe me anymore ondansetron as I'm supposed to use it to only stop the immediate sickness and then switch back to cyclizine as its cheaper. She also told me its unlikely that my GP will prescribe me anymore due to the cost too. I think it's unlikely too as he's a complete jerk. Don't know what I'm going to do now as the cyclizine didn't work by itself and I was sure id get ondansetron from the hospital. Fed up completely! Shouldn't have this worry of not being able to get a drug when i finaly found one that helps. Not been sick once Since taking it yesterday.

LucindaE Sat 22-Jun-13 14:13:21

Feekerry Hello, I remember you well, so sorry it's started up again, poor you, I think everyone who goes for it a second time and gets those first twinges panics, yet often it isn't as bad as they dread if they get prompt meds, partly because they have a little more idea how to handle it. Some evne find it isn't quite as bad as they dreaded, like Nannyl this time round (I suppose she must have delivered now). Is there any chance of am emergency prescription out of hours?
Sally I believe the cocktail of Ondansetron and Cyclazine is one of the most effective, and I'm indignant as you have been admitted, and early, that they aren't prepared to prescribe. As you say, its expense that is the real issue - there's any amount of stuff on MOH's wonderful website about meds (link above on my introductory blurb, sorry, forgotten it offhand) and on how though Ondansetron isn't officially passed like Cyclazine it's been used by thousands of sufferers safely, and is routinely used in the US.
RNJ I'll cross my fingers too you get to that month - I had no idea about the information about effacement - it must be nerve wracking. Bad enough to suffer Hyperemesis without being anxious too. So you used your Boots points to 'treat yourself' grin?
Waves Lol about cushions, Great idea about a book! You are innovative even in the middle of suffering this, that is impressive.
I hope Loub MrsMG and everyone is coping today.
Apologies to anyone ignored.

feekerry Sat 22-Jun-13 15:30:20

sally yes i took both together. 8mg of ondansatron 3 times a day and cyclzine 3 times a day. And alternated them. Neither alone worked. I was prescribed cyclzine first but was back in hospital within a week. I never really had an issue with getting either prescribed. But my doctors are very good. Ondansatron was first prescribed by hospital and docs were happy to continue.
I tried every week to reduce dosage of both and by 30 ish weeks i was down to 1 tablet of each a day and coped with that but as soon as i got to 36ish weeks had to increase again.
lucinda hello! Glad to see you are about but under these circumstances is crap. I think you are right tho as i haven't been that sick yet and think the fear is massive. Not sure what to do as so far it is def not hg as can keep basic food and water down but i am being sick couple times a day now and feel sick constantly but i can function iyswim. Unlike last time
I am off work all week next week so will see how it goes tonight/tomorrow and i can get an urgent appt if need be. Thing is im not sure whether i genuinely need the drugs or not.....
I am tempted just to get them.anyway....

Sally8655 Sat 22-Jun-13 15:56:36

Thanks for the info ladies, I'm wondering if I should try taking one of my cyclizine tablets with the ondansetron to see if it gives me a better effect that just the 4mg alone taking the edge off. So just to clarify its safe to take a cyclizine tablet now although I just took an ondansetron about 30 min ago?

feekerry Sat 22-Jun-13 16:06:20

Yep i did and dd is now a v lively 15m old! They do different things and work in different ways. So different types of drugs. It was actually my doctor who suggested taking both together. I uses to take one tablet 2hrs then 2hrs later ondansatron etc etc.
Not sure on the what's and why's but its the only thing that worked for me and it pretty much worked within a few hours.

Sally8655 Sat 22-Jun-13 16:19:10

Thanks feekerry, gona take a cyclizine and see if it helps prolong the effects of the couple ondansetron I have left xx

Louh12 Sat 22-Jun-13 17:45:23

Thanks Lucinda not managing to eat today although i want to lol but thts the joys oh the illness ay. Just laid on the sofa sipping water getting increasingly bored.
Sally as feekerry said you can take both medications together obviously if you react funny i.e dizzy etc just follow the same precations you would with any other medication.

Sally8655 Sat 22-Jun-13 18:20:53

Thanks everybody, I've taken the cyclizine, feeling pretty rubbish right now though. Just want to feel normal again. I'm going to try and have an early night in the hopes that a decent nights sleep will do some good. I hope it gets better soon. I'm starting to hate the 4 walls of my bedroom and I'm sure people who know I'm ill just think I'm being a drama queen. If only they understood. But then even the health care officials I've come into contact with dont understand. If I hear one more comment about eating ginger or crackers etc ill blow my top! Do they honestly think I didn't try that weeks ago! Rant over sorry xx

LucindaE Sat 22-Jun-13 18:32:11

Feekery Definitely get an emergency appointment and those meds as a failsafe, and possibly avoid letting this foul illness get a grip if possible.
Loub Poor old you, that isolation is so depressing.
Sally Do you think GP might take notice of all the info form Moh's website? But it's so difficult to argue ones corner with this. I think Hypers GP point blank would not let her have Ondansetron.
Thinking of you all.

Louh12 Sat 22-Jun-13 19:14:11

Lol sally my midwife does her own holistic therapies and she was telling me that i must be a cold person if ginger doesnt work i should try peppermint! i wanted to hit her

feekerry Sat 22-Jun-13 19:30:45

In desperation sally (i had been to docs before saying how bad sickness was but they fobbed me off) i turned up at the surgery, got out the car, literally dragged myself in and collapsed on the floor in a heaving/wretching mess. I had just given up at that point. They took me seriously then!!
I know exactly how you feel. It is awful. I remember lying in dark bedroom for day after day and wishing i was dead. Not being able to have a shower/move is just awful. I couldn't even get out of bed to be sick.
I really really feel for you. I can promise you tho the relief you will feel when it is all over.is immense.xx

RNJ3007 Sat 22-Jun-13 19:39:40

My GP wouldn't prescribe it, so on seeing my consultant and vomiting everywhere, my consultant wrote a VERY pointed letter to my GP demanding a repeat prescription as my mental health and the health of the baby are deemed more important than the cost of the meds.

Did I mention my consultant is awesome?

Thanks Lucinda, haha...yeah, treated myself. Was worth it!

Got a round of applause at family brunch today as I managed to eat two spoons of beans, half a scrambled egg, a rasher of baked bacon and a homemade sausage with a slice of multigrain, iron infused bread (Dad made it and put a dose of that liquid iron in! Crazy but it worked!). Not managed to eat again today, but kept it down for 2 hours. Now so nauseous it hurts, but heyho, I ate!

mrsmegaw Sat 22-Jun-13 19:40:11

hey everyone - only sick once today so far (but still only me & dh know about baba & its not easy vomiting quietly!)

sally is there only one gp in your practice? my doctors r great for everything else but some still reluctant to prescribe meds during pregnancy so i always ask for the locum! not only is the app quicker but they're younger & much more up to date! & as they're temps they probably wont be so concerned about dearer scripts. worked for me anyway! still sick everyday but without the constant nausea and no energy which for me was much worse having 2 young boys to run after. just a thought!

Sally8655 Sat 22-Jun-13 20:38:08

Ha louh, do these people think we're stupid or what! (I actually tried peppermint polos and xxx mints already) Lol :-)

TiredFeet Sat 22-Jun-13 20:42:09

hello, just checking in , glad to see some more positive posts smile

sorry you need to join us feekerry ! I have been where you are, starting to get over it now luckily but very drained from trying to cope with a little one. my tip would be to organise help now so you know you will be able to rest up a bit - do you have family / friends who might look after little one a bit that you could get booked up? we were lucky to persuade people to drop everything at short notice when I was desperate! Or if you use childcare then maybe try and book them in for some more sessions. Or what also helped me was sorting a cleaner so I had one less thing on my plate (wish I had done that much sooner!).

whoknowsyou Sat 22-Jun-13 21:06:10

Lucinda, you've been running this thread for quite some time now, are you detecting any quicker diagnosis and treatment for ladies since Duchess of Cambridge suffering HG raised the profile of this hellish side effect of pregnancy ?

P.S. I was a 2 time sufferer of HG, hospitalised both times due to GP's reluctance to prescribe anything effective enough. I love Ondansetron for what it did for me and the obs/gynae consultant who so readily prescribed it.

Sally8655 Sat 22-Jun-13 21:10:17

Hi mrsmegaw, there are different doctors I could see, but this guy is the main man and I think everything goes through him.
I wouldn't be surprised if he's put a not on my file to say DO NOT prescribe ondansetron. He's pretty full of himself. I have to see him regularly for my M/E as the other doctors don't specialise in this condition and wouldn't see me. I've tried to avoid him at all costs through this so far and other doctors have started to notice.

I saw him not long ago before I knew I was pregnant, to tell him my period had been off and I was a bit concerned as i was also feeling a bit under the weather.
He told me, don't worry it's just because I had an operation that month and the anaesthetic makes you feel like that and causes period issues.
Well I bumped into him coming out of the midwifes office yesterday and the look of horror on his face was hilarious. He couldn't even muster up a hello!
He can't be that much of a know it all if he automatically dismissed the fact that I could have been pregnant. I hope it humbled him.

Don't think I can get around him as they all pretty much liase with him.

mrsmegaw Sat 22-Jun-13 21:54:10

sally thats a bit rubbish...ok only other thing id do would be book an appointment with him, force yourself to eat a huge meal 5 mins before hand & hold it till ur sitting beside him! grin

Sally8655 Sat 22-Jun-13 22:33:45

Haha, he's not worth the pain and suffering, when I'm feeling better ill put in a complaint and move surgeries x

LucindaE Sun 23-Jun-13 13:23:08

whoknowsyou Hello, thanks for calling in, I was going to say that for sure awareness has incresed over the past few years, remembering how the let the thenNitNatNaboo get to the point of vomiting brown blood (as everyeone knows, a medical emergency) on one of he earlier threads, though it was her second HG pregnancy (on this thread, we were horrified and advised going straight to A and E) but reading these heart wrenching stories from RNJ Tiredfeet and others, I wonder. I think it has been a double edged sword - more publicity,but she would get better, private treatment and for all we know, meds not generally yet available- so her quick recovery has led people to think that it is something that can be got over easily...
RNJ Congratulations on eating, smile.
mrsmegaw I am NEVER able to puke quietly...How does one?
Sally Cudgeling brains to think of a way of by passing that dr...
I hope Everyone Isn't suffering too badly today. Feekerry I hope you get meds tomorrow...
Sorry to anyone rudely ignored.

Sally8655 Sun 23-Jun-13 14:38:55

Afternoon everybody, although it still feels like morning to me. I'm still stuck in bed, but have to say, not as nauseas today :-) Still feel very dizzy which is why I'm stuck in bed. However Ive been able to eat a nutri-grain bar, some strawberries and a few mini chedders. I'm so pleased. I've got really bad pain in my stomach from hunger so hubby going to make me a bit of mashed potatoe as I think I can maybe even manage that!
The ondansetron is obviously helping, with a side kick of cyclizine.
Also been Sipping a small bit of full fat coke for a bit of sugar every now and then. It may be in my head but I don't care, I think it helps.
I have to say a huge thankyou to the support on here the past few days. I wouldn't have found out about these meds if it wasn't for this forum. It makes being stuck in bed more bearable and I'm now able to eat a bit! Yay!
Evenings are still hard but through the day I'm not thinking I'm going to be sick every 2 minutes.
I really feel for all those who have kids to look after whilst suffering from this. I'm so lucky it's just me and my husband. he really helps with all cleaning, cooking for himself and jumping when I mention I could maybe eat or drink.
Hope you are having a better day today xxx

Hyperhelpmum Sun 23-Jun-13 19:09:08

Hi all, been super busy all weekend with DH working again and the two monsters running me ragged. Nausea improving a bit and now think I had a virus as had constant headaches for last few days. SPD agony and hardly slept a wink last night which does not help nausea. Hi all the newies! waves hope you are doing ok? Can't believe you only have 5 weeks left!!! Such a reachable goal. feekerry I had HG with DC1 started cyclizine at 4 weeks with DC 2 and was only sick twice. I felt sick as a dig but functioned and seriously felt a lot better. Fingers crossed for you. Having said that I've been sicker than ever this time and your post about lying in a dark room wanting to die hits the nail on the head (and that was after hospital admissions plus cyclizine and ondansetron) So hope you aren't as bad. Best wishes to all. I'm just looking forward to my scan on fri and finding out gender. Praying I will turn a corner puke wise by 22 weeks. Not sure I can handle agony of hips and vomiting.

feekerry Sun 23-Jun-13 20:09:19

hyper i honestly don't think people realise how life limiting it can be....
My 3 day labour,failed induction and emcs was a breeze compared to hg.
Ye i am just going to ring docs tomorrow and ask for prescription over phone. Its def not hg yet as can eat and drink but i am permently scarred from last time on the sickness front.

Tallyra Sun 23-Jun-13 23:42:38

hi all. I'm sorry to see you here fee, but don't despair, and get taking vit b6 and cyclizene straight away, its something I am planning to do as soon as I find out I'm pg this time around (TTC #1 after 3 hg MCs).
Look at the pregnancy sickness support website as well, its all helpful to get your head around and ask for help if you need it!

Sally8655 Mon 24-Jun-13 11:00:14

I'm so pleased, I managed to speak with the nicest doctor in the surgery, who has prescribed 2 boxes of ondansetron, more cyclizine and fibergel to get me through a whole month!! He was so sympathetic and even apologised its taken so long to get the right meds. He said he'll even put them on repeat prescription, that way ill only need to ask reception to sort out more if needed. :-)

Fantastic news on the ondansetron etc Sally - no wonder you are pleased. I really hope it helps you

Tallyra Mon 24-Jun-13 12:55:37

I'm so please for you Sally! I know I'm worried about being given enough of the drugs I need. I never see the same doctor twice so have no idea what they are going to say.

RNJ3007 Mon 24-Jun-13 12:58:55

Brilliant news Sally, glad you got a nice GP on your side. Your success has made me smile!

School have refused me a lift key as they are only given to wheelchair users... I'm fuming. Should have agreed to the bedrest instead of being dutiful to my students who have exams next week. After a weekend of 2.5 meals, today is being disastrous. Sat at my desk looking grey, dreading my last class of evils.

LucindaE Mon 24-Jun-13 13:23:11

Feekerry Three day labour?! shock Poor old you. Good luck for surgery.
Sally I always recommend flat, full sugar coke, I so agree it helps the nausea (and crisps). I'm delighted you've got the Onansetron (and fibergel, too).
Tallyra Hugs.
Hyper and RNJ Not long until the holidays now. RNJ That is really officious about the lift,your case is special angry.
Sorry to anyone overlooked.

Tallyra Mon 24-Jun-13 23:39:45

thanks lucinda. appt for inner checkup is in just over a week. I'm scared and excited all at once. but not entirely sure what the procedure is called or the recovery time etc. need to push for more info tomorrow.

feekerry Tue 25-Jun-13 09:30:36

Just waiting for docs to call. Been so sick again. Hoping they will just prescribe over the phone....

milktraylady Tue 25-Jun-13 09:42:30

Lucinda you are a mumsnet hero!
I had HG when I was pregnant last year & your HG threads & support & information was invaluable.

And you are still supporting everyone, wow.

I am sitting here bf my DD 10weeks old. She's brilliant, but being pregnant was awful for me!

I hope some day to meet you IRL so I can give you a hug to say thanks.
For now thanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanks


And to everyone currently suffering- get the drugs! They do work, they are safe.
Took me to try 3 different ones til I got one that stopped me hurling. Only with info I got from Lucinda.
Your suffering will pass, you've just got to survive each day until your hormones stop being on their rollercoaster. thanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanksthanks

Oh, and have you tried ginger biscuits?
ONLY KIDDING! <deathstare from legions of HG sufferers>

feekerry Tue 25-Jun-13 09:56:42

Omg they won't give me odansatron or cyclzine!
Apparently advice has changed since i had dd and medical guidence is i have to have some anti h type drug that makes you sleepy so i can only take it at night!!!!
What fucking good is that! Sorry but i am so angry.
The same thing is going to happen again. I said that to the doctor and all she could say is sorry but she couldn't go against current medical advice

LucindaE Tue 25-Jun-13 11:00:47

milktraylady Thank you so much, what a lovely message, I do hope we can met up some time, though you'll be disappointed! thanksthanksthanks back for the kind words and encouraging others, for sure, it will pass for evreyone (though it's like being sent to gaol for getting pregnant) and you will all be happy and healthy again. But meanwhile...
Feekerry I have never heard of this! Others are being given cyclazine or ondansetron, I am going to ask Pregnancy Sickness SOS and see what they advise.
Tallyra The best of luck. The figures are overwhelmingly in your favour. Even if they think there's a problem, don't despair. I had a friend, too, who had damaged her 'tubes' and the dr's said she was completely infertile. She had two children by accident...
I hope waves and Hyper and Loub and Everyone is coping...

feekerry Tue 25-Jun-13 11:30:14

Its called promethazine? Say its used to treat hives, hayfever and travel sickness..... What good is that??"

LucindaE Tue 25-Jun-13 16:58:39

feekerry I've left a message with the Pregnancy Sickness SOS Facebok page asking for suggestions.
The helpline phone number is:
024 7638 2020

The annoying thing is, that is an answerphone service, but they will certainly be back to you within 24 hours, and it will should be a midwife or someone medically trained who can help out with expert advice (I haven't heard of these new arrangements, and wonder why nobody else has been fobbed off with this).

Meanwhile, how are you at the moment?


Hyperhelpmum Tue 25-Jun-13 17:33:08

Feekerry that is total horse shit!!! What the hell is wrong with these GPs???? Promethezine did zero for me and consultant prescribed cyclizine and ondansetron once I was admitted. Its true that my GP point blank refused to give me ondansetron despite having had a prescription from consultant. How can medical recommendations change in 10 weeks (when I was prescribed ondan) it's coz it's expensive and local trust won't pay only acute care trust ie hospital will. I feel so angry on your behalf. Cyclizine is also an antihistamine so GP can shove it with that advice. Go back and demand cyclizine if I were you. Grrrrr!!!!

Sally8655 Tue 25-Jun-13 17:52:23

Hi feekerry, I'm so sorry they didn't give you what you'd hoped for. The first drug I was given was promothezine and it didn't do a thing for me. I tried it with vit B6. It made me vomit more. From my research it does work for a lot of women, but I think it's more for mild sickness and not HG sufferers. I could be wrong though.
I would try and speak with a different doctor. I had promothezine, metoclopramide, procloperazine, cyclizine and now finally ondansetron. I did however have to beg to be given some to try as your all aware. I don't know why every doctor seems to have such different opinions regarding the matter. Surely there should be some sort of up to date guidelines for all doctors to adhere to.

I thought that these drugs were becoming more widely known to be safe. If they are not ive really given my baby bad odds. I shudder to think and feel so guilty. But talking with my husband last night, he told me the risk of me carrying on the way I was would have been worse for both of us.

Is there any way you can call your local maternity department. I did this for advice a few times. Maybe they will arrange a prescription for you. I'm sure they would rather that than you having to be admitted.

I hope it works out for you soon xx

LucindaE Tue 25-Jun-13 18:02:16

Feekerry Caitlin Dean (head of Pregnancy Sickness Support) advises either phone the number and a medic called Tony will get back to you, or email her direct on caitlin@pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk and she'll advise you asap.
Hyper So agree, it's weird. How are you doing?

Sally8655 Tue 25-Jun-13 18:02:28

Just to add, I don't know if anybody else has had problems with their pharmacy or not but they have been horrendous with my husband. When he went to collect my ondansetron. She took my husband to one side and asked why I was taking it. If I knew the risks and how harmful it could be and wasn't going to give it to him to begin with. Luckily, I've kept hubby in the know, and we have discussed each prescription at length. He was able to tell the pharmacist that we knew it was a catagory b drug and that we were informed it was fine to take for my HG. He said he had to be really forceful with her.
Who she thought she was, I mean, I had a flippin prescription. Surely a doctor knows better than a boots pharmacist!
Sorry ranting alot lately x

LucindaE Tue 25-Jun-13 18:07:01

Feekerry do follow up the message from Pregnancy Sickness Support as below, just cross posted withSally Sally Don't worry at all, they are safe, any number of women have been on them and they don't do any harm, it's to do with some medical protocol Ondansetron hasn't been cleared,it's routinely used in the US as Zofran for Hyperemesis. As your OH says, the dangers of chronic dehydration, which is the alternative, are very severe.
Baby will be fine smile.

RNJ3007 Tue 25-Jun-13 18:15:09

Sally Don't worry - I used all but ondansetron with DD, and she's a giant, healthy almost 4y.o who made up for being a tiddler very quickly (2nd centile at birth for weight, now a slim but healthy 20-ish kg! Bear in mind she's now 116cm!)

And my pharmacist was the one who suggested ondansetron, followed up by midwife when I was an in patient. GP refused on cost grounds, but hospital demanded they make it a repeat prescription and they caved. Please do follow up, the alternative of no meds/no effective meds don't bear thinking about.

I've not kept down food in 30 hours... But tolerating fluids, so trying for litre #4 as I type this.

My daughter (nosey Parker who asked who you all are!) says 'thank you for being kind to my mummy. Sicky makes her sad.'

Tallyra Wed 26-Jun-13 08:19:01

Fee I am fuming for you. What right does that gp have to withhold recommended drugs that will help you? They are basically torturing you for being ill.
Don't let them do that. Make a fuss. I know you feel like crap but they need to change their mind.
Sending you hugs!!!!!

LucindaE Wed 26-Jun-13 09:29:42

FekerryI hope you got hold of Pregnancy Sickness SOS emergency line or emailed Caitlin, re my post below?
Hyper RNJ and Tallyra I so agree. The pieemeal approach to this scourge is all wrong. I think new guildelines are being drawn up, and they're needed.

feekerry Wed 26-Jun-13 10:41:55

Hello all. Thank you for your helpful advice. After some calls and pointing people in right direction i have got a prescription for both ondansatron and cyclzine. Phew.

Its just stupid when you know what will work and they refuse to give it to you. Your advice was all v helpful and when i spoke to the doc again she couldn't really argue her point. She did try the old "it'll pass by 12 weeks" hmm i know it won't!

Off to get my prescription x

Sally8655 Wed 26-Jun-13 11:15:00

So pleased for you feekerry. Hope you feel better as soon as you pop them pills :-)

I'm still feeling completely drained and stuck in bed. The nausea is pretty bad at times, especially the evenings, even with the tablets. Not throwing up though.
Currently trying to rack my brains thinking of something I could eat. Most things once I've tried it, I can't eat it again. Really running out of options.
Although its not completely tempting, strawberries and popcorn are still the safest by far. They usually help keep the hunger at bay without making me feel more nauseas.

I'm also finding it really hard to drink fluids. I'm trying my best but just don't feel thirsty at all and although trying to sip throughout the day there's no way I'm managing 2 litres. I'd be lucky to get down one. I know this is really bad but it's not without trying.
I'm gona ask my dad to make his hearty broth. Might try some jelly too. Yuk I know but I suppose it's fluids in a round about way.
Gosh I digress when i type, sorry. It's the only contact with the outside world for me right now. Lol

Counting down the days till this is over and I'm able to get out of bed! Xxx

feekerry Wed 26-Jun-13 12:26:07

sally have you actually been to hospital? Maybe if you are still no better it might be worth getting admitted? At least they can top up your fluids via a drip? I always felt better once coming out if hospital. Might give your body a kick start?

LucindaE Wed 26-Jun-13 12:38:24

Feekerry Great news, I'm so glad.
Sally Really sorry you are suffering like this. It's very hard to take in enough liquid, did you come by those kestostix to check? I so agree about jelly, and I found the juice of tinned fruit helpful,besides the flat full sugar coke. Iron bru and Lucozade (often left to go flat) and sometimes Dr Pepper were helpful for me, but a lot on here don't find that. I used to make mint tea out of fresh mint, though once I included a snail (envy].
waves How are things?
RNJ Loub Hyperand Everyone?

Sally8655 Wed 26-Jun-13 13:20:06

Had IV fluids a couple of weeks ago but not been in since. Really didn't want to go back as I didn't have the best experience.
Think I must be at my peak with the sickness as im feeling really yuk today. Was just trying to think of something for lunch when I wretched a few times resulting in full blown being sick :-( i really thought I was really over that part as I hadn't thrown up since last Friday.
Will get some ketostix off my mum later as we have type 1 diabetics in family so I'm sure they'll have some.
A little bit worried due to seeing stars and muscle pain in arms and legs. It's not constant but annoying. Can't go back in to hospital, it's really not the best time for being a burden on family having to take me etc. if it doesn't let up ill call my GP.

RNJ3007 Wed 26-Jun-13 20:01:41

Hi all.

Lucinda - having some not so fun times and it is showing. My grandmother is in hospital and not doing well. Having lost my maternal grandmother during my first pregnancy, it has me freaking out. Emotionally battered, still not eaten as feel so awful, but have managed 2.5l of water, 1l of lucozade sport and 1l of various fruit juices.

Trying crutches due to SPD, waiting for physio appt.

3w2d until end of term...desperately hanging on. Still not even in maternity clothes at 31w...

Pleased for you feekerry, thinking of you Sally. Hope waves and everyone are all surviving.x

Sally8655 Wed 26-Jun-13 20:41:09

Rnj, so sorry you've got worries on top if being so poorly. That must be terrible for you. Well done for your fluid intake, hope u can manage some food soon too.
Just think it'll not be long till your holding your baby and the end of sickness is in sight.
Hope your grandmother is ok, thinking of you x

Still feeling like I'm dying, been sick a few times today and not eaten much either. Dreading the next few days when ill be left to fend for myself while hubby is away each day. He works from home usually so I've not had to do much at all. Then next Thursday he is away to Australia for 2 weeks with work and I'm still stuck in bed all day everyday. Need to get better soon or I'm stuffed.

Reebok Thu 27-Jun-13 00:10:17

Hello ladies, just checking in. Not been on for a while due to the stress of work. Sorry to see so many are still suffering. I really hope it calms down for you.

I started my maternity leave...finally...however unfortunately despite being 36+4, the vomiting and nausea has returned again and I've had a severe case of projectile vomiting. Feeling awful and been in bed all day. Also getting pretty bad period pains so midwife has said its possible I may go into labour early. Hopefully if I do, little one will be ok.

feekerry Thu 27-Jun-13 15:04:42

Hello all.
Hope you are okay sally?
I am currently feeling much better on ondansatron and cyclizine cocktail.
Just trying to work out the most effective quantity and timings to maximise the benefits....can't remember how i worked it last time.
I have already lost half a stone in 10 day so no one will guess i am preggers. Lol.
Due back to work on Monday so hoping i can regain some strength by then.
Q question.....
I was given a repeat prescription but the review date says last year. Does this mean if i drop this in they are not going to prescribe as the review date is overdue?
I bet they want me to see a doctor before they prescribe again. Gits

Sally8655 Thu 27-Jun-13 15:24:02

Pleased you got your drugs and they're taking effect feekerry. Not too sure about the prescription.
I'm still not too clever. I've resorted to downing prune juice today as fibergel and other remedies havnt quite worked and look more like 6 months pregnant rather than 9 weeks.
Managed to eat some frosties and a packet of salt n vinegar squares today.
I've got an awful taste in my mouth which nothing will get rid of. It's been like that for days. Has anybody else got this problem. It's like I've eaten metal! I'm sure it's making me gag more than food. Sorry tmi.
Running out of things to watch and listen to in bed now. Rather bored, which Im sure is making me think more about how I dreadful I feel.

LucindaE Thu 27-Jun-13 18:45:01

Sally Never worry about tmi on here, no such thing - I remember the metallic taste, foul. I used to suck old fashioned barley sugar sweets from a funny sweet shop but nothing really shifted it. Is the seeing stars due to low blood pressure? Can anyone come in while DH away? I remember now how horrible you said it was waiting and in the ward you were in.
I'm anxious you're dehydrated already. Does your head ache?
RNJ Sorry about your Grandmother, that is very sad [hugs], and having to sue crutches is a bit depressing. Not in maternity clothes, goodness.
Reebok Glad ML has started, but how depressing the sickness is worse. It doesn't ever seem to have gone properly away in your case for more than a little while. I don't know how you kept going. I think I have heard that at thirty six weeks the baby's lungs are fully developed so it's OK if they are born from then on?
Feekerry Oh no, did someone make an error, surely it is obvious that it is one...Going back on Monday seems a bit early, mother hen thinks...
Sorry to anyone rudely over looked/cross posted.

I second advice not to go back to work too early. I kept trying and ended up completely signed off (and then made redundant but that's another story)

Weird day for me. Still bein sick obviously, but had a package of gifts for me and the baby left on my doorstep by exH, and also a long letter emailed from him, being v apologetic and now my head is spinning. Also getting v frequent BH and praying nothing is yet imminent as I want my little boy to stay inside as long as possible to get the weight on.

Confusing times.

Sally8655 Thu 27-Jun-13 20:31:18

Hi lucinda, I've used the ketostix and no ketones so I can't be dehydrated. Have had the dizziness for a good few weeks now. Stars is a recent thing though. Each time my bp has been taken its been high so don't think it's that.
I've tested my sugar levels with sisters monitor and its normal.
Good news is the prune juice was amazing at its job, a little too good. Feel so much less bloated and sore now.
I've got nobody to stay with my while hubby's away, at least nobody who would be of any help anyway.
Going to have to go it alone I'm afraid. I'm normally the most independent of people, you'd never of thought do now as I get upset being alone for and hour.
I have turned into a bit if an emotional mush lately, these hormones are evil and I worry at every twinge or pain.
Found out this afternoon I'm being made redundant in August after 11 years with the same company since leaving school. The redundancy package better be good as ill not have my maternity pay now :-( how's that for timing x

LucindaE Thu 27-Jun-13 20:38:38

waves I am glad he is sorry, he ought to be! angry. Fingers crossed BH doesn't lead to anything.
Sally Glad no ketones, but ]oh no, you too made redundant, waves was only a short while ago, really, it is too bad for both of you. Really sorry there isn't anyone to look after you. I think you can get a volunteer in from Pregnancy Sickness Support if necessary, but you might not like that idea.

LucindaE Fri 28-Jun-13 16:59:38

Well, I hope Everyone is alive, ketones not too high, no murders have been committed over ginger biscuit recommendations, or suggestions to 'get on with it' and OH's are showing 'slavish devotion' (I got that phrase from an old novel...

feekerry Fri 28-Jun-13 17:09:19

Hello all.
Still being bit sick despite ondansatron but it is a vast improvement.
I will never never never be having another baby by the way. I will never go thru this again. I am so looking forward to having this baby and knowing i will never be doing this again.
Anyhoo.... Off to buy salt and vinegar squares after reading sally post a few up. Sorry to hear re job.
How far gone is everyone on here who is expecting? I am about 8 weeks me thinks...

Sally8655 Fri 28-Jun-13 18:00:37

Hi, I'm still alive and suffering. I've been surviving on kids fruit juice cartons and mango sorbet today.
I've even ordered an Indian specifically for the salty popodoms and onion salad. I'm sure hubby will manage the rest. It's very random and weird the things I think I can eat. I even woke last night thinking on aniseed balls from the old fashioned sweet shops.
I'm not too worried about the job as I'm so ill, couldn't even think of having to go back to work. I'm a travel agent so I'm sure when the times right it'll be easy enough to find work again.
Still have the yacky taste in mouth and can not get rid of it.
So glad you've had some improvement feekerry,I'm 9 weeks and it feels like its been forever already. I also am never going to put myself through this again! As soon as I can, ill be getting some sort of implant or coil and will never temp fate again. This wasn't planned for me right now, sure I wanted it at some point and I'm really warming to the fact that we've been given such a precious gift when so many people can't. However, never again after feeling like this. Once will be enough for me. It really annoys me when people say to me, they never had sickness at all and they don't understand what the fuss is about. Yesterday I felt like pulling her hair out.

SlinkyB Fri 28-Jun-13 19:19:53

Hello all, I'm back from my week long holiday and just caught up on all the news.

Sorry to hear some of you are still really poorly, and I was shock at some of the the treatment some of you are getting (or not, more to the point) from your GP's. Thank goodness for Mother Hen Lucinda clucking and helping. Let's hope that new guidelines are soon published for all health care professionals to adhere to. My GP also said at diagnosis "ooh, you can now go around telling everyone you've got what Kate Middleton had!". MIL pointed out the other day that she bounced back quickly so hopefully I would too. Like you say, who knows what treatment and meds were/are available to her.

I'm now 10+1 and getting a little better day by day. Even had some energy return so was able to enjoy a couple of trips out with my dh and ds. Still needing an afternoon nap and in bed around 7-8pm each night, but it's a vast improvement on being bed bound and getting depressed a couple of weeks ago.

Am just taking Cyclizine at 6.30am and about 5pm now,as found my 12.30 one really did knock me out. Planning on returning to work on Monday, first time back in a month and not looking forward to it. Am also at threat of redundancy - seems a common theme on this thread sad

With regard to only being able to eat certain things Sally I was like that, and found myself randomly enjoying....tinned new potatoes?! confused I don't know what it is about them, but thought I'd mention it. I eat at least one packet of salt and vinegar crisps per day too, usually midmorning when I feel nauseous. Total food and drink aversion was hideous before, but I'm very lucky and seem to be heading back towards eating normally now <crosses fingers I haven't jinxed myself>

Mena1 Fri 28-Jun-13 19:30:30

I had HG with my first and it was hell! One midwife even asked me if I "self diagnosed" I swore her in zulu and politely said no. What a cow!

I come bearing a silver lining to the dark HG clouds going about.

When I found out I was pregnant again, I literally screamed. It wasnt planned at all. all I could think about was the constant nausea and vomiting and having to look after a 2.5 year old. I was very very close to going at DH's testicles with a butter knife. I was so angry. I have been ill but not nearly as bad as I was with DC1, I think I have proper "morning sickness" now and i dont mind it at all compared to what I went through the first time. 14 weeks now and doing good.

I was very anxious about having another DC and spoke to the lovely LucindaE about all my fears and she did say theres a possibility I wouldnt have HG again.....look at me now! so if you are looking at having no.2 after HG hell with first DC there is a possibility that you could be OK!

Sally - Ginger made me even more sick, dont listen to that hippie!
The other thing that helped me , was cyclozine and metaclopramide , taking these two together really helps.

Good luck to all the HG sufferers out there, you are not alone.xx

Hyperhelpmum Fri 28-Jun-13 22:56:48

Hi all sorry to hear you are all suffering so sally I had a horrific 'dead animal dying' taste in my mouth and found skittles (small so one every now and again not too nauseous making) worked a bit but really nothing helped until I was eating and drinking again. Can't remember who mentioned not drinking much and worrying about nor getting 2l but I am still drinking minimal amounts as liquid still a trigger. I don't think it's that bad as long as you stay hydrated. So glad you got the meds feekerry just shows what utter rubbish they spout as they go back in it, not very credible! As for passing after 12 weeks, wish some of them could try lying in constant discomfort and distress for weeks on end. I'm 19 weeks plus and only just feeling ok most of the time. Still nauseous after breakfast and until after lunch really but eating must things and back to Pre preggo weight of 9 st 4lbs. waves stay strong, typical spineless coward act to change the tune so close to the end when you have done all the hard work with NO support. Poor you. So confusing. Hugs to all and ps physio helped with spd loads so although it's uncomfortable at times I'm no longer in constant pain. Exciting news today, baby looking fab and only slightly under average size, not surprising after 17 weeks of puking/ vomiting and it's ...... A little girl!!!!!! Big shock as was convinced it was a third boy! Feeling very happy though!

Glad you are feeling a bit better hyper, and great scan news for you!

I managed a decent nights sleep which is great, an hoping today isn't too bad. I genuinely feel the past week has been more just morning sickness for me, with only around 3 or 4 vomits a day, although the nausea is horrid. I'm nowhere near 2 litres of fluids a day as fluids make me sicker than dry food. Will try to make up some more fortisip jelly this morning.

I am feeling very confused about exh situation. He wants to make things work, but I don't know whether this is motivated by a road to Damascus kind of moment, with him realising he does love me, and has been a total shit, or whether it is because he can't afford court/doesn't want maintenance and access battles and is doing this for that reason and acting the remorseful in love part...... Bad timing as i was just starting to get mentally prepared for my little ones arrival.

I'm 35 + 4, so reach full term in just over a week which is a bit scary! I also don't think I could contemplate another pregnancy, this one has, it feels, nearly killed me. I have an older DS and DD, but there is also a part of me that would love to experience pregnancy with a loving, supportive partner.

I've found this place to be so much support and can't thank lucinda and the other regulars enough.

SlinkyB Sat 29-Jun-13 07:45:36

Congratulations on the happy scan news hyper - I was meant to ask how it went and forgot, sorry. I have a dss and ds so pressure is on to have a girl this time. It would be nice to have a bit of gender balance in the house, but we're not too bothered as long as baby is healthy.

waves what a bombshell from exH. Are you still in love with him? Do you trust him? Sorry don't know you but those would be the first questions I'd be asking a friend in the same situation I think. Not sure I could forgive someone for running out on me in my time of need.

I had the worst night ever. Felt really sick and the room was spinning, so took a Cyclizine at midnight which took the edge off.

Hope you all have good days.

Sally8655 Sat 29-Jun-13 11:21:46

Hyper- congrats in the scan, gona get some skittles today and give them a go.

Waves- I can only imagine how difficult things are for you, but also very exciting that you'll have your baby with you very soon.

Feekerry- how you feeling? Hope the meds are having more of an impact

I'm feeling very tired, hungry, bunged up again and to top it off, I reckon I might have an ear infection. It would make sense if I do.
When I went for my last scan, I had really horrid pain in ear and around that side of head. It went away but every now and then it aches a bit with some sharp pain. If I remember rightly this is when the really bad dizziness started. Last night the ear ache was awful.
Looking forward to checking it out with the doc. If some of how I'm feeling can be treated easily ill be over the moon!
Managed to get rid of the fowl taste yesterday with my popodoms and onion pickle. However it's back in full force today. Also gona try and pick up some black jack and fruit salad chews. Used to love them as a kid. Don't know where ill find them though.
Really looking forward to being able to eat normally and enjoy real food again. I hope this doesn't last much longer.

LucindaE Sat 29-Jun-13 11:28:10

Mena1 I remember you so well - one of the first on these threads, along with FluffyWhiteKittens - I recommended coke ice cubes, forgot to say, let it go flat, and you had a spillage in your fridge, just what you don't need when ill. I am so happy that fate having taken the decision out of your hands - as it did with MaryLou242 you 'Only' suffered nasty morning sickness. Thank you so much for kind words and for coming on to encourage others. Lol about swearing in Zulu - a great idea -and about the fantasies of castrating OH!
Wavesandsmiles Goodness, I agree with Slinky and her questions. I am glad he is sorry, but while he may believe himself to be reformed, etc, I do think he needs counselling, as he has to realise that he has hurt you a lot and upset the kids,etc, and if he does want you to trust him again, it is going to take a lot of time. I hope that doesn't sound too schoolmarmy, but he can't just say 'sorry, I didn't mean it' after deserting you when you needed him most. That is going to take some sorting out. shock. Isn't it awful, if on this thread it is 'only' three or four vomits a day? Most women would call that extreme suffering.
I am so glad that this thread has been a support for you (I've been shocked at how ill you have been, I think you have had the worst case I've known on this thread) and if we could do a tiny bit to ease things, then that is great.
Sally You are brave - but these urges are best followed - I ate fish fingers, fishcakes, probably horrible on the way up again but I don't remember those making a reappearance, unlike that pasta and cooked cheese shock. Travel agent sounds interesting work - so it isn't suffering so much from the recession? Aniseed, I remember that from years ago - it was barley sugar with me. These people who sit in moral judgement on sufferers have got a damned nerve!
Feekerry Two is enough, for sure. I so agree with you and Sally about salt and vinegar flavour, along with flat sugary coke for me, or flat Lucozade.
Slinky Welcome back, and yes, there can't be any comparison between the treatment available to royals and what is on offer on the NHS what with those nice seven hours wait for a bed, reluctance to prescribe Ondansetron, etc etc, unfortunately. So glad you are improving, fingers crossed it continues...
Hyper Great news, I am so glad you are a lot better, and about scan.
Apologies to anyone impolitely ovrelooked/cross posted.

LucindaE Sat 29-Jun-13 11:31:17

SlinkyOops, just seen about horrible night. Sally I so feel for you over that foul taste. I once chewed fresh mint leaves in desperation, I'm not sure I recommend that .

LucindaE Sat 29-Jun-13 12:30:30

slinky I forgot to put in hugs over bad night, and thanks for kind words.

Tallyra Sat 29-Jun-13 19:54:48

hi guys, just popping in to give you all hugs. I remember that taste, a horrible metallic taste that even made tea taste like crap once I got my steroid induced appetite back.
waves I am shock. at oh thinking he has any right at all to come back. after everything he let you go through on your own. angry angry angry angry angry

feekerry Sun 30-Jun-13 11:28:59

Ughhh. Really hate this. Last time when the meds worked i got a fairly normal diet back minus some food aversions.
This time its totally different. Even tho i am not as sick i cannot eat a thing. Literally nothing. I can't even look at food or smell it. I am probably having about 200 calories a day which consists of a breakfast bar and a few grapes. But i don't feel hungry at all. No hunger pangs
Any suggestions on what i can try eat (boak) even typing the word makes me heave. Seem to have developed some kind of eating disorder

Hyperhelpmum Sun 30-Jun-13 13:41:11

I was the same feekerry. I ate a bowl of shreddies and a piece of toast a day for weeks and even that didn't always stay down despite meds. Try sweets, I managed haribo, skittles and the odd mini milky way. Just for a bit of sugar. I also managed sprite every now and then. Seriously, I hardly ate for weeks. Seem to pilling on the pounds now though!!!!

SlinkyB Sun 30-Jun-13 14:10:43

I was the same in the early early weeks too fee, total food and drink aversion. I gagged when my GP asked how I was getting on with "meals" !

I just forced myself to sip any sugary drinks, and managed the odd bowl of cereal. Also didn't mind fruity hard boiled sweets, which temporarily relieved the dry mouth; maybe try those? I do feel for you, twas hideous sad <hugs>

SlinkyB Sun 30-Jun-13 14:12:06

P.s hyper me too; I'm eating every couple of hours to stop the sickness....have a big belly on me now!

Sally8655 Sun 30-Jun-13 14:38:41

Hi all
I had a pretty rough night and still feel a bit shakey. Don't know what's going on with my body right now. One day I can eat some, the next nothing. I've only managed strawberries again so far today. Trying to sip water although struggling.
Been really dizzy and shakey. Hoping I get to see a doc tomorrow to check out the ear infection thing and desperately need help with mega constipation. Prune juice worked last week but not been able to go for a few days now despite using the same method. The GP last prescribed fibergel which didn't work and senna. I tried the senna once and it helped a bit but have since found stuff online to say it shouldn't be taken during pregnancy. If that's the case why would my GP prescribe it?
Has anybody else on here used senna?

I agree feekerry about food aversions, sometimes somebody just mentioning eating makes me gag.
The thought of doing online food shopping while hubby is away is a scary thought.

I have however spent a fortune online since being laid up in bed for such a long time.
Yesterday I ordered old fashioned sweets such as Parma violets, dip dabs, aniseed balls and blackjack sweets to satisfy a craving and hopefully get rid of this minging taste.
Today I decided I hate the smell of my house (don't know why as its spotless and still smells if fresh paint) so I went online to lush cosmetics and spent a ridiculous amount of money on nice smelling soaps to leave around my bedroom and bathroom.
Crazy I know but didn't want to smell air fresheners.
Im sure this is also down to boredom. I've also been on and joined every baby club there is to get my free packs. Very sad, but don't want to sleep as I feel worse when I wake and really will do anything to take my mind off how ill I feel.
Feeling very sorry for myself, hoping to be able to go to the loo soon and sure the effectivness of my ondansetron is waring off xxx

RNJ3007 Sun 30-Jun-13 14:43:13

Hugs to all.

feekerry I have the same issue. Food is not my friend at all. Lost so much weight it is worrying - not in maternity wear at 31w2d! I've mostly been sipping fanta fruit twist or San pellegrino grapefruit, and food has been raspberries, strawberries, flat peaches and cold Granny Smith apples. Had the occasional food success, but the last week has been dire, barely eaten anything. Had a few mouthfuls of baked fish and plain whole grain rice last night. Today I managed a few pomodorino tomatoes and a couple of carrot sticks.

My DD's birthday party was yesterday. I'm utterly broken today, but managed a hobble round kiddicare. Ordered the cot and mattress, and got a changing bag and muslins. Accomplished! And done with baby shopping.

It's no fun when 'only' being sick 7-8 times in a day is a good day. And I'd kill for a couple of good days just now. So sick and tired of being sick.

feekerry Sun 30-Jun-13 17:52:31

Thank you all. Least i am not alone. Its mental. I cannot even say sainsburys without heaving.

SlinkyB Sun 30-Jun-13 18:46:28

Good luck at Dr's tomorrow Sally - dizzy and shakey does not sound nice. Fingers crossed it is an ear infection which can be sorted quickly. Sorry no advice re: constipation as prune juice usually works here. Will also keep everything crossed you get a repeat script for Ondansetron easily. Am jealous of your impending deliveries - sweets and Lush smellies sound great! Hope they cheer you up. How long will your dh be away for?

RNJ you sound really bad, well done for dd birthday party and getting organised for new baby's arrival. Not too much longer for you now.

Quick question for those of you taking Cyclizine; what times do you find it's best to take them? I followed hyper's advice about setting alarm for 6.30am and having cereal about 7am, which works really well.

I'm then waiting until around 4pm, so that I can eat dinner with the family around 5pm (although lately its just cereal again).

The past few nights I've found I've been waking up feeling really nauseas around 9pm-11pm and can't sleep so have ended up having another tablet and some food, but still having really crap sleep (am usually awake between 1am-3am).

Any thoughts on how to space them out better, as am only allowed three a day, appreciated.

LucindaE Sun 30-Jun-13 19:01:33

I do so feel for you all about the food aversions, and as for having to shop for food. Feekerry Is even jelly or nibbles of salty crisps unbearable?
Sally Parma violets is an intriguing idea! It is so boring being bed bound or sofa bound, depressing, isolating. Those glycerine suppositories are the thing for most people, available for chemists (they use them in maternity wards but as usual, chemists won't give them if they know they're for someone pregnant). I think I may have been given a senna based mixture to clear out the bowels before some medical procedure, but presumably it was stronger, as it worked violently! But I wasn't dehydrated then,so my experience is probably irrelevant.
RNJ Oh dear, about being sick 7 or 8 times a day. That seems excessive on meds. Which meds did you say you are on, sorry I am so vague today, I should remember? It doesn't seem to be helping anything like enough, poor you.
Hyper and Slinky Congratulations on the gained pounds grin
I hopeReebok is OK...and waves and tired and Everyone.
Goes off, clucking.
Talyra Hugs.

SlinkyB Sun 30-Jun-13 19:02:54

Oh! Sorry, another question; anyone else suffering from a really dry mouth all the time? Not sure if it's a pregnancy thing or a Cyclizine thing? Driving me nuts though.

feekerry Sun 30-Jun-13 19:10:00

Yes slinky as well as cack mouth. Not sure what is the cause. Prob hg and dehydration i imagine.
It sounds like sweets are the way forward. Haribo sound good to me.

SlinkyB Sun 30-Jun-13 19:27:59

Confession time. I've been keeping Haribo in my bedside drawer and eating them in the middle of the night when I wake up with desert mouth blush They're so lovely and juicy. My poor teeth though!

Dh did the food shop yesterday and came back with a bag of the milkshake ones, which I don't recommend for a dry mouth. Def stick to the fruit ones.

Sally8655 Sun 30-Jun-13 19:59:07

I've now resorted to taking a couple of senna in the hopes of being able to go and rid this pain in my stomach.
Dh is away for two weeks on Thursday. I'm probably being a big baby but I've never been away from him for longer than a few days since we were married and to top it off he's doing everything for me at the moment as I can't venture downstairs at all.
Sweets did sound like a good idea at the time, just wish I could eat anything right now.

feekerry Sun 30-Jun-13 20:14:20

I am thinking the star burst ones slinky
sally think its the ondansatron that makes you constipated. Have you got lactose from the doctors? You can get it in suppositries (nice) but they do work. I had to use unfortunately due to high usage of ondansatron last time.

Sally8655 Sun 30-Jun-13 20:37:54

Gonna get some tomorrow feekerry. Hope the senna I've taken will help when I wake up though x

RNJ3007 Sun 30-Jun-13 21:58:41

Slinky I usually do something for her at home. This year it was soft play. Just paid and then avoided the food part! But it was necessary as I couldn't have done anything like the usual.

Lucinda I'm on ondansetron. I got down to 3-4 times a day in second trimester, but getting worse now. But still markedly better than the every 20-30 mins it was in the first trimester!!!

Had a total fall apart this evening. SPD is really getting to me, along with the sickness and I miss DH and I being 'together' if you will. I sat and sobbed. He keeps trying to assure me it's ok, but feel like he is getting more and more distant. Physio and OH on 9th... Hoping for some relief. Eh!

15 more working days to go. 3 weeks. Then I can sort the house and try to be ready for v2.0 to appear.

babyhmummy01 Mon 01-Jul-13 08:52:45

not posted in a while but need some advice for coping with HG - have been relatively ok for the past 6-8 weeks (YAY) very nauseous and zero appetite but the last 2 weeks have been horrific - non stop throwing up, shaking like hell and feeling generally awful...am now 33 weeks is this normal???

littlepinkfizz Mon 01-Jul-13 09:32:28

Can I join p,ease. Don't know if I have hg as not vomiting but incredibly nauseous 24/7 and unable to eat barely anything or even drnk. I feel so down and a burden and don't know how to face the next couple of months.

Sally8655 Mon 01-Jul-13 10:05:49

Rnj- hope you feel better soon, can I ask what ondansetron dosage you were on in first trimester. Think I need to tweak mine.

Babymummy- I'm only in week 10 so can't help, but some on here are suffering at that stage. I'd see your GP just in case though.

Littlepinkfizz- I know how ur feeling. To start with I wasn't throwing up, just felt like i was going to 24/7. Then it started and I had to be hospitalised for IV drugs. I went through all types of meds till I finally got ondansetron. This works better than the others and takes the edge off but I still feel sick 24/7 and really struggle with food and liquids. I feel for you x

Well going to call the doc and see about possible ear infection, also going to try the glycerin things for down below. Xx

RNJ3007 Mon 01-Jul-13 11:31:53

Sally I was on cyclizine and metaclompramide then promethazine and prochlorperazine in trimester 1. Started ondansetron at end of first trimester, was on 4mg three times a day plus cyclizine and weaned down to just the ondansetron in second trimester and was less vomit-y.

Now I'm almost 32w, I'm back on 3 lots of Onsansetron plus occasionally a cyclizine or two to help if it is bad. Back to being very sick again.

Sally8655 Mon 01-Jul-13 12:26:55

Hhmm, I'm supposed to be on 2 x 4mg a day of ondansetron. This worked only got about a couple of hours after each dose. So after advice on here and checking with GP, I also took cyclizine 3 times a day on top of ondansetron. However I still feel dreadful.
I'm thinking about asking GP about cutting out the cyclizine and upping the ondansetron to 8mg 3 x a day. I wonder if this will work!

LucindaE Mon 01-Jul-13 13:11:52

Problems with Internet - may lose connection at any minute - just dashing on to day, welcome to Pinkfizz and welcome back to Babymummy. oh dear, sounds as if you are both suffering. Pinkfizz as Sally says, it often starts off like that, unfortunately, and it might be a good idea to see your GP asap to see if you can get meds, also get some kesotix to check if you are becoming dehydrated, even without the vomiting if you can't face the bulk of liquids you can end up that way.
You'll find plenty of support on here, and there are lots of helpful suggestions for meds and tackling GP's reluctant to prescribe meds on the Prenancy Sickness SOS website (link on the introductory blurb to this thread). Babymummy This sounds awful, are you still on meds? It seems they need the dose raised or another added or something. You must be dehydrated again, do make an emergency appointment to see your GP, I suppose it must be some sort of hormonal surge, poor you.
I hope to be back soon sad

feekerry Mon 01-Jul-13 13:45:28

babymummy i had to up my meds again from about 32 weeks last pregnancy as it got worse again. I went back to 3x ondansatron and 3x cyclizine per day till i gave birth. The sickness in labour was horrific. I had to have ondansatron by iv. So yes i think it is normal for it to get worse as your hormones go awol. But..... Your almost there!!! Get back on the meds and your on the home straight!

feekerry Mon 01-Jul-13 13:49:47

sally i think you need to be on more ondansatron until it eases off a bit. You will probably be able to cut back to one a day in the middle/later stages but i think you really need help getting on top of this in these early stages.x

babyhmummy01 Mon 01-Jul-13 15:19:04

have increased my dose of prochlorprazine but not been back yet, am managing to keep hydrated but have insulin resistance so think the shakes are more related to low blood sugars rather than dehydration.

littlepinkfizz Mon 01-Jul-13 18:38:14

Feel so depressed. Have no energy or motivation and nausea constantly.i know I'm not vomiting but I just can't cope with the thought of another 2 to 3 months of this. Managed spoonful of cereal and nibble of banana today plus sips of water.got cyclizine from gp but no difference at all.i have 4 dc youngest is 2. How am I going to get through this?

Sally8655 Mon 01-Jul-13 19:08:24

Littlepinkfizz- feel for you, can you ask GP for some ondansetron to see if it helps at all?

GP said I can up my meds. Right now though I'm concentrating on trying to go to the loo. GP prescribed movicol today and told me to have 8 sachets a day for 3 days and if things don't improve ill have to have an enema.
Yuk. To think it was only a couple of weeks back I had the opposite problem. As if I don't have enough to deal with as it is!

SlinkyB Mon 01-Jul-13 19:16:39

How far along are you pinkfizz? My HG peaked around 7 week (am 10+4 now), and I was never actually sick more than twice per day. To be honest, the nausea/feeling sick & fatigue/dehydration was worse than physically being sick. If you feel you're getting dehydrated and not coping, go back to your GP tomorrow. Do you have help with the other kids? Family you can ask to watch them for you? Try not to panic, there is help out there and you may not have this for months. Just concentrate on getting through each day as they come. Sending you strength and hugs!

babyhmummy sorry your HG has come back with a vengeance. Let's hope it's only temporary and you manage to find the right meds/dosage to control it <hugs>

I survived my ffirst day back at work today, but shattered now so off to bed soon.

Sally sorry you're feeling so awful still. Hope you got on ok at Dr's and get dosage sorted soon.

littlepinkfizz Mon 01-Jul-13 19:53:47

In bed again. Thank you slinky and sally. I will only be 6 weeks on Wednesday. What is ondansteron.? Had a mmc at 13.5 weeks this time last year and was exactly the same with the nausea. Gp never offered anything other than referral to psych for my terribly low mood.

So afraid of it all happening again.found it so hard to get each day in.

Feel a complete burden to my family .

SlinkyB Mon 01-Jul-13 20:26:11

I think you're probably going thru the peak stage then littlepinkfizz? Ondansetron is a strong anti-sickness drug, which some (most?!) Of the ladies on this thread are on, or have been on. My GP said they'd only give it to me in hospital. So sorry to hear about your mmc last year, no wonder you're stressed and down. If you find one GP refuses to give you anti-sickness medication when you really do feel you need it (not able to eat or drink) do try a different one. If you read back on this thread you'll see they're all different and some aren't au fait with current protocols for dealing with Hypremesis.

You mentioned you were sipping water; are you able to stomach something with a little sugar in it? Flat lemonade or Lucozade?

SlinkyB Mon 01-Jul-13 20:33:40

sally x-posted with you earlier (I'm so slow as on phone!). Eeek about possible enema?! I will pray to the poo gods for you tonight; do let us know if/when you get some relief! I do feel for you, must be horrible (I feel grim if I don't 'go' for one day).

Sally8655 Mon 01-Jul-13 22:08:21

And finally relief, thank goodness for movicol. Now I'm back to just feeling sick and dizzy again. Thanks slinky, think your prayer worked x

Sally8655 Tue 02-Jul-13 10:45:38

Yay, lush goodies and retro sweets arrived today. I am pleased to advise that aniseed balls definitely clear the disgusting metal taste in mouth. It also lasts a while so no need to be eating them constantly.
As for all my bath goodies, I can't wait to try them. Definitely perked up a bit after smelling all the loveliness in a box.even more chuffed they gave me 5 freebies!

Received a call from the district nurse this morning. Apparently my GP (the really nice one that gave me my ondansetron prescription) got in touch with her to say I was really suffering with sickness etc and she's going to come out tomorrow to take blood pressure, sugar levels and check urine. She said she might do an enema anyway :-( but overall I'm really pleased that I'm being looked at and not forgotten about. Apparently my GP was concerned as I've been stuck in bed for the past 6 weeks but he understands I can't get into the surgery for all the checks.

Feeling more relaxed that I have the support of a lovely doctor and I'm being taken seriously, unlike earlier on when I was told to just grin and bear it like all other women.

Hope you are all having a better morning xx

SlinkyB Tue 02-Jul-13 16:08:26

Yay! So pleased you have had some relief from awful constipation Sally, amd that you love your treats. Gosh, have you really been bed bound for six weeks? sad That's awesome news about the GP and nurse looking out for you, must be a comfort esp when you know dh is going away soon.

I've had a good day so far, met my midwife for the first time as she came to my house for my booking in appt. We hit it off over tea and biscuits (she's pg too) and everything feels much more real now. 12 wk scan in two weeks time, can't wait.

Lucinda sorry you had internet probs, hope it's all sorted now?

LucindaE Tue 02-Jul-13 17:45:16

Slinky Were those 'Poo Goddesses' as females are so much more down to earth than males, lol? grin Back on internet, hey! Glad you could manage tea and biscuits, a luxury on this thread, lol.
Sally Glad about relief at both ends smile So aniseed balls may be the way to go forward, and I'm so pleased that you and Slinky are having some sympathetic treatment.
LittlePink I do know that Pregnancy Sickness SOS might be able to reocmmend a volunteer to help out if desperate - are there any friends/family/nursery facilities which might ease the burden a little? Really feel for you, it must be so hard to cope with other Lo's and this - hugs about mmc, I had one too,but not so late - round eleven weeks. I think you are in danger of being dehydrated already on so little fluids - sorry t nag, but check with Kesostix? I probably have a nerve to say this, as this may be your fourth Hyperemesis pregnancy. I don' t know what is worse, being sick frequently, so that you have aching muscles and only bile, or longing to be sick...sad
RNJ My goodness, being sick every twenty minutes for any length of time must be horrific, and agonising.
Feekerry and Babymummy It is certainly too bad to get it back again for the last eight weeks and have to go back on meds.
wavesandsmiles You are quiet this week, how are things generally?
Apologies to anyone rudely ignored.

Hyperhelpmum Tue 02-Jul-13 21:15:33

Evening all, hope you are all doing ok and finding a way through the HG hell. I've realised I'm not totally out of the woods and have spent all evening feeling really nauseous again after a full on day at work. Just when I think I'm over it....... So need to sleep/rest and life just does not allow it. Ultra busy weekend coming up and then off camping in France on Tuesday. Dreading it. Never been before and prospect of no sleep/ respite from DC aged 5 and 3 who will undoubtedly run rings round us, is making me v nervous indeed. Wish me luck.

Sally8655 Tue 02-Jul-13 22:30:51

Oh my goodness hyper, camping in France while you feel sick! I couldn't think of anything worse. I hope things perk up for you and you get through it ok xx

Hi all, early morning check in from me. I've been awake since 4.45 and really not having too much fun. I've had a re emergence of pretty awful vomiting first thing and last thing, although during the day it's more just nausea and only throwing up if I am daft enough to eat sad

I'm super tired, and really am back to wishing away the remainder of this pregnancy. I want to have a day off the nausea and vomiting, to be able to eat properly again. I'm 36 + 1 now, so only days off reaching full term. I'm getting mega strong Braxton hicks (I read somewhere that they are worse if you are dehydrated) and generally feeling restless and niggly.

I'm not so impressed with people saying how petite and tiny me and my bump are. I think they think its a compliment but have no idea of the hell I've been through which has led to this . I do however have pretty good colour as I've been resting outside on the patio whenever it's been sunny, so I am starting to get a tan!

Still in my low cut normal jeans which at size 8 are even looking a bit baggy on my bum and legs, and other than the need for looser cut tops to accommodate the baby bump, by a hint of maternity wear. I'm feeling a bit down and might either try to chat to the midwives or go back to my gp as I'm concerned that as well as having this massive physical effect, the HG might have affected me psychologically.

Oh gosh, sorry for huge rant, been AWOL a few days and its all come pouring out.

Sorry for not name checking, on my phone and brain. Not functioning enough to name check or remember many details

Paragraph 3 should say not a hint of maternity wear.

Tallyra Wed 03-Jul-13 07:52:15

Oh huge hugs waves. you are doing so well for everything you have been through. I do agree though, it is a lot to cope with all at once and a counsellor would be a very good idea. go for it, they help lots, even if you can't see what they are doing straight away.thanks

Sally8655 Wed 03-Jul-13 08:58:53

Morning waves
Feel so sorry for you, still feeling like this for so long. I really do hope that my HG improves after the first trimester. I know it's probably unlikely knowing me but hoping.
At least you can see an end to this now and will be giving birth soon! I would see the doc as this experience can be emotionally scaring.
Dh says to me not to worry as ill feel better soon and ill not even remember this phase. Yeh right, ill never forget this, I can't even remember how it feels to be normal and not feel sick or have aversions to everything. I've only been like this for about six weeks so can only imagine how you feel.

I'm still stuck in bed, waiting for the nurse to visit. Did manage my gorgeous bath yesterday with all my goodies bought online. It really perked me up for all of an hour. Only I think that sitting in a bath full of pink soap has really irritated me down below :-( hoping it doesn't turn in to full blown thrush. Don't usually get this but read its pretty common in pregnancy. Is there anything else that could happen to me!

Dh is preparing for his travels tomorrow and I'm so upset, I'm going to miss him so much, especially everything he does for me while I'm poorly. Really want the next fortnight to fly by until he's back home safely.
My sister is apparently going to come and stay with me to help out. Only I think this may be adding more work on my part as she is not in the best of health herself and I usually end up worrying about her.

Oh well, another day. One more tick off the countdown to hopefully feeling better xx

LucindaE Wed 03-Jul-13 14:43:38

wavesandsmiles Poor you, hugs, I wonder if there is any of you left at all, how long since you ate a proper meal? I think it's amazing the way you keep going. Fate seems to have thrown everything at you. 'This Too Will Pass',but it is taking its time with you.
Sally I'm so glad you had a nice bath and I do hope sister waits on you.
Fingers crossed it goes off earlier this time.
Hyper Like others, I am astounded that you are going camping, how brave. Hopefully you may feel a lot better in the open air...
Hope Slinky Pink Babymummy and Everyone are coping.

littlepinkfizz Wed 03-Jul-13 15:18:08

Oh my goodness waves poor you. What a dreadful time you are having. How do you keep your spirits up?

sally glad you enjoyed your sweeties and lush goodies. If my Dh was away for 2 weeks, I would be in a heap on the floor.

Still feeling dreadful here and saw gp this morning. Due to a long history of depression they are concentrating on this rather than the nausea.
I seem to be getting restless legs now also and my mouth tastes vile. I had just 1 + of ketones in my urine which the gp thought was ok. I must be managing enough sips of water.

Poor Dh finding it all very stressful .

Hope all you ladies are getting a little respite x

For those of you who remember me, I gave birth to DD3 in the pool today. She weighed 9lb 13oz! I finally managed to get off the ondansetron at 36 weeks - just in case that gives hope to long-term sufferers. Hang in there everyone who is suffering. I promise it's worth it!

Sally8655 Wed 03-Jul-13 18:45:41

Congratulations xx

Tallyra Wed 03-Jul-13 19:03:51

hey room, congratulations!!!grin thanks

So glad to hear you made it through. I hope you can have the meal of your dreams soon.

Oh room I am so delighted for you - and what an amazing weight! I'm 36 weeks now, and hoping I may have some respite but it isn't looking too good just at the moment. So I think I will just be hopeful that my little one arrives sooner rather than later.

Thanks to everyone else for the supportive messages after my somewhat emotional ramble. I am just so looking forward to my baby's arrival, and knowing that it is not too far away certainly helps. Kind of scared though at the prospect of having to teach myself to eat properly again, which will be very important as I intend to breastfeed and obviously you need plenty of calories of that.

Once again, many congratulations to you Room - enjoy plenty of cuddles with DD3 x

Hyperhelpmum Wed 03-Jul-13 19:14:25

Poor you waves this is shocking for you. Would they consider inducing you early or is bub too small? In terms of camping I'm really not bad now re sickness. Off meds and only nauseous when exhausted. Hope this gives some of you hope as I was bedbound weeks 5-10 , 10 weeks off work and only left house for first time week 13 for my scan (apart from hospital admissions). I stopped vomiting at week 17 and feel mildly hung over in mornings at week 20. I went from 9 stone 4 lb to 8 stone and still fit a size 8 non maternity skirt/ dress. I'm back to pre preg weight and can eat most things now. Really hope this gives some of you hope. I didn't feel better until well into 2 nd trimester but its so much better now.

Poor waves is just so ill. My heart bleeds for you and I think you are the strongest woman I've heard of. I considered termination in my darkest times (weeks 5-12) as couldn't even shower let alone eat. All my thoughts are with you waves. You have done so well. Keep strong, in mind if not in body. You can do it xxx

Hyper I'm just keeping going because I have to, mainly for my DCs. I was same weight as you pre-pregnancy and got back to that a few weeks ago, and have gained about 3 lbs, but it is all on my bump. They won't induce me as the baby is still growing and is measuring so little on the scans, so the longer he stays put the better for him. Fortisip icecubes are clearly helping from that perspective.

I am so glad that you are feeling so much better now, I really hope that I am a super-rare occurrence as I would not wish this on my worst of enemies. Hopefully I will get more sleep tonight as that will help both body and mind

LucindaE Wed 03-Jul-13 19:51:29

Room Ooh, wonderful news, flowersflowersflowers what a big baby - I know you were worried about a premature delivery, which seems ironic at her birth weight! grin Really happy for you and thanks so much for coming back on to encourage other people.
wavesandsmiles pink andEveryone You will get there, too, and be posting about the birth...

feekerry Wed 03-Jul-13 20:02:20

Hello all.
Really had a bad few days culminating in throwing up right on my desk in front of all my colleagues. Well of course nothing came up as i have nothing to bring up but they still had to witness the awful wretching noises.
Its weird this time as i don't think the drugs are having much effect. Last time they made a vast improvement but this time not much but it feels like a different type of sickness this time. Certainly not as sick as last time but feel more sick in a way.
Thinking of just getting signed off from work as feel like more of a hindrance than help....

ThreeEyedRaven Wed 03-Jul-13 20:26:09

Hi ladies, I'm wondering if you can help me understand a bit more about hg.

I'm 5+3 and have been feeling sick and dizzy for a week. only thrown up once but I can't face being anywhere but in bed and I have no appetite. sipping flat fizzy drinks helps. it feels a lot like vertigo which I've had in the past.

saw GP today who was very nice, did full blood tests and signed me off for 2 weeks. prochloperazibe doesnt work on me as have had it before for vertigo. my concern is what if this isnt vertigo and its hg?
any advice gratefully recieced.


Sally8655 Wed 03-Jul-13 21:48:43

Feekerry, that must have been dreadful. Definitely get signed off. I'm signed off long term as I suffer with M/E also and was already on the sick when fell pregnant. So I have not had to think about work at all. Just as well as I sit at a desk serving the public. Wouldn't be very pretty. Looks like i won't have to either as I'm being made redundant.
I totally understand the whole feeling of sickness but not throwing up. Mine is so severe but I manage to not throw up most days. Don't know what's worse.

Raven- I've had the dizziness too. It started at about 5 weeks, I was told that its normal and some people suffer as a result of hormones. It just got worse and I'm stuck in bed constantly. Have been since i found out at 4 weeks when I started with just the nausea. Its been over 6 weeks now. I've had all tests and other than high blood pressure and being a bit dehydrated im ok. I was put on IV fluids and drugs but since being on ondansetron I've not had to go back to hospital.
Thought the dizziness could be a bit of an ear infection but very doubtful, still to get this fully checked out. Been to ill to get in and see GP although I'm able to talk with him over the phone this needs to be diagnosed in person.
For me the dizziness coupled with the sickness is so debilitating and just hoping it ends soon. I really do feel for you x

Hyperhelpmum Wed 03-Jul-13 22:25:17

I had terrible dizziness , spaced out, odd feeling for weeks. Thought it was the cyclizine but think its prob a bit of everything. As I started eating, being more upright, reducing meds it went. Not nice and not something I had with either my previous HG or morning sickness pregnancies.

Hyperhelpmum Wed 03-Jul-13 22:28:00

Ps I remember my mum trying to persuade me to sit outside for some fresh air in week 7, I vomitted at smell of air. Felt so dizzy and out of it that air smelt odd and overwhelming!!!! Thought I was developing agoraphobia but i was just SO ill and needed to stay in bed. Grim.

LucindaE Thu 04-Jul-13 18:33:04

ThreeEyedRaven What a wonderful name, that sounds like something from a celtic legend. Welcome, sorry you feel so bad, it could well be Hyperemesis unfortunately if the nausea is so bad you can't get up, not everyone vomits much, oddly enough, and sadly, too, if you're not getting enough fluids down you might become dehydrated anyway, so do get in those kestostix (sending someone to a chemists). Certainly worth going back to the GP and saying the meds aren't helping much, something else might help better.
Feekerry Oh, no, shock poor you. Gentle pats on offer. You shouldn't try and battle on if you feel this bad. I emptying one of those metal bins sloshing with puke from a friend of mine long ago (I now realise she must have had Hyperemesis or borderline). I don't know how people avoid being sick on their desks, I think RNJ said she was sick out of her classroom window?
I would have for sure if I hadn't been made redundant just before I succumbed.
Sally I wonder if dizsiness goes with the lack of eating etc? An ear infection sounds nasty.
Hyper Oh, no, sick at the smell of fresh air, that must have been a low point.
Hope Everyone is coping today.
wavesandsmiles I meant to say, and forgot, I envy you having a good colour after being so ill. I looked as if I had died, and been dug up again 'Return of the Hyperemesis Vampire on Starvation Diet' shock and my sufferings only lasted a short while. I really liked that photo of you by those rocks I had a peek at weeks ago, it would make a lovely book cover.

Sally8655 Fri 05-Jul-13 00:12:03

Well what a horrid day, severely sick, definitely got ear infection as I can feel it bubbling inside and my darling husband left for Australia for 2 weeks.
I'm miserable, hence being awake at this late hour.
I tried to do online shopping today and was just about throwing up at every thing I saw. It's going to be a long fortnight!
Just miserable :-(

LucindaE Fri 05-Jul-13 09:35:53

Sally Ah,you poor thing, sorry I come to this late. It's horrible to be awake and puking or dry retching in the night, all alone. Sorry your missing OH, too. Did you say sister was coming in? Was it food shopping (horrors!)? Belated hugs.
Feekerry Mother hen does hope you get a sick note. You shouldn't be struggling in, cluck, cluck...
How is Everyone?

Sally8655 Fri 05-Jul-13 09:59:20

Hi lucinda, sister is here and trying her best. Yes it was food shopping, but glad I struggled through as ran out of juice and its just arrived now.
Does anybody think its bad for me to not be able to stomach water but I can drink fruit juice? Not really drinking water at all and a bit worried about it.
Doctor calling me today to see how I am, going to ask him about my poor ear xx

RNJ3007 Fri 05-Jul-13 16:45:12

Hi all.

Yes Lucinda Out of the classroom window, in the bin, in the recycling box (empty thankfully), into plastic bags... One classy teacher! Yesterday I was so sick I cried in an exam I was invilating. 27 times between 6am and 4pm. My eyes are wrecked - burst blood vessels galore!

And I have tonsillitis, just to top up my misery. Just what I need. Physio on Tuesday and scan on Weds next week.

Have just put nappies in to wash as feeling the need to have bubs bag packed for hospital. 32w today...almost there. Still do not look that pregnant, but bub must be ok as he is trying to kick the iPad off my tummy as I type. 8 or 9 kicks and stretches a minute. Glad someone has some energy!

LucindaE Fri 05-Jul-13 18:19:00

RNJ it is very tidy to have reached the window, anyway. It must be very embarrassing to have an audience of school kids. I am horrified - *you were sick 27 times in ten hours and you are still working?*Surely you are dehydrated? Mother hen is flapping in concern. Why haven't you been signed off for the duration? You need to be in bed, lying still.
Sally I am glad sister is there. I am sure any liquid is better than not enough, but might be worth asking dr. I know water is best, but a lot of women on here find that flat coke or jelly or some such stays down more easily, I don't know why. I used to drink the juice of tinned fruit, very unhealthy, but it was liquid. Are ice lollies or ice cubes bearable, particularly as it is getting hotter?
Feeling for Everyone.

feekerry Fri 05-Jul-13 18:37:21

Hello all. Just a quick update as i have been admitted to hospital after having 4+ ketones and protein and glucose in my urine sample.
Luckily hospital are lovely as will be in for few days. First night ever away from my baby.. yikes!xxxx

RNJ3007 Fri 05-Jul-13 19:25:16

Lucinda, I know, but only two weeks to end of term and threats of a vague reference if I'm off... Took today off as feel so dire. But ketones at 3+ and managed 2l of water before bed yesterday and 2l of water and a litre of apple juice today. Had some melon too, so definitely less dehydrated now.

Can't wait to have little man earth side and safe, and be able to eat like a normal person again.

Now to plait DDs hair and send her off to bed with DH to tuck her in...

LucindaE Sat 06-Jul-13 09:47:45

Feekerry Oh no, hugs, you must have been in a bad way, and the separation from baby is tough. You must have been feeling dire at 4*ketones...Glad at least hospital are being nice.
RNJ I'm not surprised it was 3+ ketones after a day like that. I am angry with the school for daring to threaten you about references - can they, over a pregnancy related condition or do they sneak round it pretending it is something else when it's that really? Thank goodness you got some liquids down. Horrified you are having to work.
Sally How are things? Everyone?

Sally8655 Sat 06-Jul-13 10:41:29

Hi all,
Fed up with how long the days are and feeling sick so much. I have an antibiotic spray for my ear as I do have an infection after all. Hoping this will ease some of the dizziness.
Good news is I'm managing to eat fruit, babybel cheese and the odd pot noodle. Maybe the pot noodle isnt the best choice but its what I can manage. I'm also making regular trips to the bathroom again.
Doctor got a bit concerned I could develope blood clots as I'm in bed all the time, so I've been given exercises for my legs. It takes all my strength to manage one as I feel so weak. Could really do with a shot of energy as I feel like I'm wasting away.
I have however stopped losing weight so dramatically. People keep telling me its really good that I've lost so much weight. I know I have a couple of stone I could do with shifting but not like this and not while pregnant surely. Do they have any idea what I'm going through!

Really rough night also, hubby rang me at 1am from Hong Kong on his way to aus but this was just as I was getting to sleep and then didn't manage to drift off until about three. This meant I woke late and didn't take my tablets on time and feeling awful. Miss

Sally8655 Sat 06-Jul-13 10:44:25

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Hope everybody else is feeling a bit better. Thinking of you feekerry and rnj. Hope everybody else feels better soon xxx

BumpAndGrind Sat 06-Jul-13 11:25:43

Well, I went back to work last week, but the mix of that and the hot weather floored me and I'm back to constant puking sad sad sad

Tallyra Sat 06-Jul-13 16:42:03

oh no, please don't try to work in this heat. surely they can't do that to you, pregnancy illnesses can't be on your conduct record be aide that is sexual discrimination...

SlinkyB Sat 06-Jul-13 19:39:07

Hello all, sorry been AWOL for a few days. Have been feeling sooo much better that I feel a bit of a fraud coming on here and reading how terribly ill you all are blush sad

fee sorry to hear about hosp admission but you're in the best place. Hope you're soon on the road to recovery.

sally Hyperemesis is the World's worst diet, can't believe people have said it's good You've lost weight. Fab news on the pot noodles! I'm still eating junk but I don't care, it's better than nothing. Hope you get a better night's sleep tonight.

RNJ you really shouldn't be at work, but you know that. You're dedication is astonishing.

bump sorry to hear of relapse. Hope you're getting the opportunity to rest and rehydrate now?

Sorry not replying to everyone but on phone.

RNJ3007 Sat 06-Jul-13 20:33:19

Thanks for all the support, you lovely lot have really kept me going.

Yes, I know, bad me for working, but as I bring in over 2/3 of the money in the family, I feel like I have to as I am out of paid leave time.

Lucinda my work have been appalling all through. But come my due date they will no longer be my employers. And only 2 weeks of term to go. Only doing 3.5 days next week due to appts, and only 4 the final week due to appts, so the end is in sight.

Sally I have been congratulated on losing so much weight... It drives me mad. I've dropped 4 stone and have a tiny bump and am not in maternity gear as my usual clothes are very loose. Gone back into clothes that fitted me at uni!

Slinky I know... I just feel like I have to get every last penny before end of term so the next year won't be quite as hellish.

Managed to take DD to a birthday party today - hid in shade and had a lovely mum from nursery bringing me pints of iced soda water with lime wedges as she saw me drinking it at a party a few weeks ago. So sweet, bless her. DD had a fab time. Sat in front of the fan now packing hospital bag after hubby hung out and bought in the newborn nappies after I washed them. He even thought to wash muslins, cloth wipes, cot sheets, breast pads and post partum pads for me today! As well as changing the sheets and doing 3 loads of washing and tidying the kitchen whilst I was out. Miracles will never cease! I think my DM put the fear into him...

Tallyra Sun 07-Jul-13 08:41:23

give lively hubby a huge hug, sounds like he's really wanting to help xxx

Sally8655 Sun 07-Jul-13 17:17:32

What a day, feel like I'm dying.
Sister has had to go into hospital due to taking a bad turn with diabetes. Mum goes in for knee operation tomorrow, dad has to work and as you know hubby is away. So all on my lonesome.
Had to feed the cat, change litter and take the bins out on my own on top of having to get drinks and snacks my self. I have to say I feel like I've done army boot camp. I know this seems really little but since i havnt been able to leave my bed except to go to the bathroom, its alot for me right now. And what's up with this dam heat! I have my fan placed right next to my face but not feeling any cooler.
I hope I'm not too sick this evening. They seem to be worse for me.
Just want to go to sleep and wake up when it's all over. Trying to up my fluid intake as I don't think I'm having enough, especially in this heat. It's really making me more sick though :-(

SlinkyB Sun 07-Jul-13 20:41:14

RNJ what a result from DH with the chores. Hope he keeps it up! And that you've managed to get some well earned rest this weekend.

Sally you poor poor thing! What a nightmare. Will your sis be in hospital long? Hope she's ok. What a stressful time for you all. This heat must be horrible when you're sick and tired anyway. Will the nurse be coming to visit you tomorrow? Hope you start to turn a corner real soon, this really isn't fair.

Hyperhelpmum Sun 07-Jul-13 22:11:58

God ladies I feel for you all in this heat. I'm still feeling queasy everyday but so much better than I was. Horray for 21 weeks! Just popping on to say goodbye as off to France for two weeks tomorrow. There really was a time I thought I wouldn't be able to go but thankfully.....
Keep strong, keep going, it will pass. Fingers crossed sooner rather than later. waves thinking of you and hoping you are keeping ok? Maybe you will have LO by my return?! So exciting. lucinda keep up the Stirling work. Bye for now all x

Sally8655 Mon 08-Jul-13 16:14:22

Managed to go downstairs and sit for a couple of hours talking to poor mum after her operation. They let her out after all.
However back in bed again as it was probably too much for me. Really feel like my ME has relapsed and hit me hard as this can't all possibly be down to pregnancy.
Trying to arrange repeat prescription and sick note again! Not an easy task.
Also had a letter from work asking me to attend a meeting but really don't think I can do it and not any time soon either. I'm sure it's to give me my notice, which is fine but I have a few complaints to make and really can't go through all if that right now.
I'm counting down the days till my hubby gets home, only 11 to go but it feels like forever.
Ive also got a scan as soon as he's back and will find out if its just one of two babies inside. Yikes.
We were told at the last scan that she couldn't rule it out as scan was so early at 5 weeks and it does look alot like there are two fuzzy bits inside the sac.
This would explain my extreme bout of sickness I suppose but very scary!
Really starting to get sick of the same juice and snacks now but can't bare to think through foods that I may be able to eat. It makes me want to throw up when I think of the wrong things.
Im on day one of my eleventh week ( thats 10+1 to normal people but it makes me feel better saying it the other way lol) so hopefully will start to feel relief soon, although very sceptical since I feel so unbelievably dreadful.
Hope everybody is coping ok xxx

LucindaE Tue 09-Jul-13 16:46:40

Sorry I went missing, in the heat the stupid pc completely crashed, it seems the fan was blocked up. I couldn't even get on via the library pc I booked for an hour yesterday, as it blocked all my usual websites, even with passwords. I too really feel for everyone in this heat.
Sally Poor you, if it is twins, that is exciting and can be your family in one go! We've only had one set of twins on here before, Mrs Dakishu (I think that is how you spell it) was on here maybe a year ago. The cat litter must have been foul beyond belief, a real puke maker. Sorryabout sick relative and work will have to wait for that meeting. Sod 'em and other such polite expressions.
RNJ It makes me humble, I have no idea at all how you cope, how you manage to talk loudly, keep the class in order (I am sure I wouldn't be able to even without Hyperemesis), the whole lot. I am so glad another mum made a fuss of you and OH is being helpful.
Slinky I am so glad you area lot better.
Hyper Belated have a lovely holiday.
I hope wavesandsmiles pinkfizzand babymomma are OK, and everyone else.
Sorry to anyone rudely ignored.

Sally8655 Tue 09-Jul-13 19:55:40

It's so incredibly hot! Never thought I would say this, but wish it was snow and wind out there.
I havnt been as sick today but completely exhausted. Decided to put some water bottles in the freezer and sip them as they melt. It's really helped.
Not been able to eat alot but carrot sticks and cucumber wasn't too bad.

I don't know if anybody else has had a similar problem but started to have the odd nosebleed and inside of lips seem to be bleeding too. Very strange indeed.
Also I thought hair was supposed to get thicker during pregnancy, mine just keeps falling out.

Hope everybody is enduring this heat without too many problems xxx

Sally8655 Tue 09-Jul-13 19:58:58

Oh forgot to say lucinda, work have decided they will just issue my notice over the phone! Very nice after 11 years service.
Making a huge complaint against my manager though after she leaked all my personal hr data to members of staff. So lots going on.


RNJ3007 Tue 09-Jul-13 20:06:35

Lucinda It is a challenge, but needs must. And thank you.

Sally I'm on clexane, and find that bad vomiting spells give me huge nose bleeds and my lips keep cracking and bleeding thanks to dry mouth.

Had a LONG physio session today. Got a pelvic support belt, crutches and follow up in a couple of weeks to discuss further options. Plus osteopath this Friday. Counting down, very sick of being in pain!

Only been sick twice today! Victory! Even managed to eat a nutrigrain bar and some melon and raspberries today. Yay.

Hope everyone has some improvement soon.x

LucindaE Wed 10-Jul-13 09:01:22

RNJ and Sally Words fail me angry about the insensitivity of these employers. I am glad Sally you are complaining about that manager. One of my pet rants is, if this was a male disease, would it be treated so dismissively? Asnwers on a postcard...Sorry about crutches, RNJ Kalidasa had that too, and it must be so depressing and awkward. Sally I so agree about ice cubes in any form. And ice lollies...I do feel for you all in this weather. Glad you were 'only' sick twice yesterday, 'RNJ*. Most women would cal that 'terrible pregnancy sickness' shock.

feekerry Wed 10-Jul-13 19:21:34

hello fellow suffers.
i have been discharged today and back home. 6 day stint in gyne ward. feel bit hopeless tho as was still pretty sick in hospital despite hospital sized iv doses of all the anti emetics so doesnt bode well for home.
on the plus side they gave me an early scan and all is well and where it should be.
signed off work for a bit but still taking dd to childcare as i just can't cope with her in the day as i am a mess and just can't do anything for her. bless her.
I've now lost about a stone and am close to weighing under 9 stone. which is crap as i now look like a pregnant person with an eating disorder. not a good look.
i have also pissed myself a few times whilst being sick. i am a delight smile

how is everyone else? holding up?xx

Sally8655 Wed 10-Jul-13 19:52:12

Glad your back home feekerry, even though not feeling better at least you have your own bed. Hospitals in my experience are horrid places.

Rnj, feel for you being sick only twice a day is still awful and having to cope with other problems too, your amazing.

I've been trying to do little things like walking down the stairs and sitting in the living room for 15min or so. Tried to change bed sheets today after a bath and floored myself. The nausea was there straight away and so breathless. Even eating a packet of crisps leaves me gasping.
Talking makes me queasy and havnt been able to drink as much today.
But at least it's been a little cooler today. Apparently not for long though as the temperature shots back up again tomorrow :-( I'm really hating this heat.
Gums have stopped bleeding and no more nose bleeds yet.

Sisters really helped today, washing floors and hoovering etc. Its nice to know my house is being looked after as I'm very particular about a clean house. Can't seem to rest if I know dirt is lurking!

Hope everybody else is ok xx

RNJ3007 Wed 10-Jul-13 21:45:55

Poor you fee I'll be thinking of you. I too have peed my pants whilst vomiting more than once.

Sally Thanks, but I don't feel amazing. Just got to get on for the sake of those around me! It is tough, but it will be done soon. Another "only" twice sick day today. And both before 9am. I even ate tea! A 4y.o size portion, but tea! With meat and veg!

In good news, I had a scan today, and bub has piled it on! He's about 4lbs now (at almost 33w)! Bump is still near invisible, and I lost another 4lbs, but he is growing. My cervix is funnelling a bit though, so got to try and take it easier. Need to keep him in another 4.5 weeks.

He's currently trying to launch the iPad off his butt and feet... I should probably oblige and head to bed!

TiredFeet Wed 10-Jul-13 22:52:05

just popping in to see if there have been any thread babies! so congratulations Room !!!!! that's one generously sized baby smile

hugs to the rest of you, keep plodding on and one day you will be out the other side, I promise smile

I am doing fine now and back to running around after DS. he is very excited about getting a baby sibling and has all kinds of hilarious questions (like, "is there a cot in your tummy then?") and today he tried to shove toys in my mouth so they could get to the baby!! his excitement makes all the suffering (with both) feel worthwhile (just!)

Waves I am so excited for you that you are getting so close to the finish now, I hope you have an easy last few weeks and I am looking forward to hearing your news smile

LucindaE Thu 11-Jul-13 09:41:49

FeekerryPoor poor you, hugs, and no relief after six days in there? That was a long, long stint. Are they going to offer regular top ups of IV meds like wavesandsmles has to have? Really feel for you, and in this heat. I'm so hoping you turn the corner soon. So glad at least you have good arrangements for DD. It will be wonderful for her to have a sibling, but that must seem so far away. I was an expert at PUking and Peeing myself, and the bathroom floor got it on many occasions. Public Puking and Peeing also featured...blush.
Tiredfeet I am so glad you are feeling better. I hope OH is sufficiently contrite and all is well otherwise. Thank you so much for coming back on, and grin about DS's trying to entertain the baby. That is so sweet, he must be a very generous child!
Sally This heat must be awful with that lack of energy. I am glad you attempted the crisps, and that sis is being helpful. I am still good and mad about how workplaces have treated you and RNJ. RNJ I am so glad it is still 'only' twice a day, (as opposed to 30 plus- I am still horrified by that, I can't imagine how bad you feel at that level) and you even ate. Fingers crossed that cervix will hold tight for four more weeks...You are a marvel.
Apologies to anyone rudely overlooked.

LucindaE Fri 12-Jul-13 12:38:49

Oh dear, I hope Everyone is coping in this heat, it must be horrific with Hyperemesis as you need even more liquids...gentle pats on offer, cyber ice packs, etc...sad Feekerry Are those miserable ketones creeping up again? How many weeks did you say you were, I'm hoping this is the worst stage for you.

Sally8655 Fri 12-Jul-13 18:57:12

Hi everybody
Today has been better for me. Been able to eat some dairylea dunkers, babybel cheese and a yoghurt. Also had some water and juice!
I've lost another couple of pounds over the past week but not too concerned as its definitely slowed down. I'm really struggling with smells around the house but its not too bad in the safety of my bedroom.
I've also been able to use the toilet more frequently. It's such a relief.
Despite this though I have felt so emotional and seem to be crying all the time. Really missing my husband which doesn't help, but also annoyed with the lack of contact from so called friends and family. I've not had one phone call from anybody other than my mother and mother inlaw this past 7 weeks despite them knowing how poorly I am.

No more nose bleeds etc but now experiencing pins and needles throughout the night which prevents me from sleeping. It's like one thing gets better and another problem starts.

How is everybody else doing? It's nice to know I'm not a lone sufferer xxx

RNJ3007 Fri 12-Jul-13 19:36:50

Great news there Sally! Well done on eating. Sorry it's been do lonely though. (Hugs)

I have managed to hold down 3l of water, 1l of juice and 2l of squash and soda water! Win! Also, 2 apricots, a punnet of raspberries, an apple and about 1/3 of a galia melon. My ketones are only at 1+! Lowest since on 8l Hartman's a day! Going to try some baked cod shortly. Here's hoping protein isn't a leap too far. Only been sick once today!

Saw the osteopath today. Wanted to kill her and propose by the end. Sore but less pelvic clicking. Might even get some sleep tonight!

Hope you're all surviving this heat. I only have 4.5 work days left, only 4 with students in too. Counting down.

LucindaE Fri 12-Jul-13 20:40:09

RNJ and Sally Congratulations on eating,one all that fruit, the other all that dairy food. Good luck with fish, RNJ...Lol about proposal to Osteopath! grin.
I hope Feekerry and the Others aren't too bad. wavesandsmiles How hot is it in the channel islands?


LucindaE Sat 13-Jul-13 14:22:20

I am still feeling for all sufferers shock in this incredible heat.

Sorry not to name check, just haven't updated much here recently. I'm still being sick (what a surprise...), and discovered that bouncing on a birthing ball is a terrible idea. I unfortunately attempted that in DD's bedroom and it was a bit of a mess to clean up.

I've been getting period pains/contraction type things for nearly 24 hours now, so it could be the start of something. My fingers and toes are so, so crossed that it is. Will be lovely to meet my baby and find an end to this horror. I have bought lots of nuts which I am trying to snack on for the protein and energy, and raisins also to try. Not fun being sick in the heat is it? (I think even less fun having contractions at the same time, but I am hopeful that is a positive sign so trying not to dwell)

Lucinda It is about 24 degrees here, but my garden is south facing and a heat trap anyway, so I reckon well over 30 out there. So I am staying inside.

RNJ3007 Sat 13-Jul-13 16:09:22

Fish was a bad bad plan. Oh well, live and learn. Was epically sick until about 0300. Then up with DD at 0730. Exhausted!

Today has included a power cut (and me freaking out), the sorting of clothes and start of washing teeny tiny clothes and drink bottle green pink tonic water. Mmmm. Oh, and getting DD's feet measured. Just turned 4 and she's an 11.5G!

Now watching 'Finding Nemo' with DD and hiding in darkened, shaded, fan filled living room. With my feet up. And an ice pack on the symphysis pubis. Lucky me!

ifIsaynodontjustaskdad Sat 13-Jul-13 16:34:23

Much sympathy to you all. I have three dds and had hyperemsis with all pregnancies. Ranitidine was my friend.. what did help with ketones etc was my midwife in first pg insisted I drank 5litres of water a day but suggesting it was flat soda water. That way even though I threw up so much my throat bled I had enough water to avoid the drip and the basic ph of the sofa water helped minimize the damage to my throat and teeth from my stomach acid. Also do not do as I did and brush your teeth every time you throw up, it wears away the enamel and I now have a filling which my dentist attributes entirely to acid wear.

I ended up leaving hospital in pre pregnancy clothes after each baby and all the girls were thin for their length at birth but otherwise healthy and are now big for their age so I promise it will pass. Good luck to you all

LucindaE Sat 13-Jul-13 18:21:53

ifisaynodon'tjustaskdad Love the message in your name - thanks for such a lovely, supportive message. I am fascinated by that soda water idea.
wavesandsmiles That is wonderful news, best of luck. Contractions, heat and puking - no fun at all. Poor you about birthing ball Over on the US thread I ran temporarily (I think they thought UK people very weird after cyber meeting me) I did know two women who had bad Hyperemesis throughout , but not quite as bad as you, who got desperate at being overdue,and bounced with bowls at the ready, not fun either. You have been amazing and I hope this torment will stop for you soon. That garden doesn't sound ideal in bad health, though lovely otherwise...
RNJ OOPS - sorry about fish. It is nasty on the way up. Oddly enough some women on here find the fishcakes type thing sometimes stays down, maybe pure fish is too healthy...
Sympathies to all...Quite concerned about Feekerry!

feekerry Sun 14-Jul-13 11:39:20

waves weakly!!
i am still here, just. although i am literally half the person i used to be.
still suffering bad. i just cannot do a thing. its putting a massive strain on my relationship with dp as he is left doing everything and i know he is finding it tough but he is barely speaking to me now. but i don't have the energy to deal with that now so it will have to wait.
i would only say it on here but not one day goes by when i don't think about having a termination....
i know that's dreadful but its true.

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feekerry Sun 14-Jul-13 12:16:51

hello champagne
welcome. i think you might have been on the Feb thread with me but i too decamped due to hypermesis. its just not comparable with a normal pregnancy/normal morning sickness so thought best to not cramp anybody else's pregnancy thread!
think v carefully about returning to work. most ladies with hg spend alot of weeks off work.....x

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Natale28 Sun 14-Jul-13 12:34:03

This is my first pregnancy and i'm not sure whether what i am experiencing is 'normal' morning sickness or not - if it is then i am amazed that no-one has ever told me how bad it can be. I cannot keep anything down at all for more than a couple of hours, even fluids are coming up. I have no energy at all and feel like the life has been sucked out of me. I have lost 3 pounds in 3 days. Is this normal? Please help!x

Natale28 Sun 14-Jul-13 12:35:01

Oh and i'm 7 weeks 2 days pregnant - first sickness started at less than 4 weeks pregnant and was a few times a day at first but is now unbearable.

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feekerry Sun 14-Jul-13 12:51:48

you need an urgent appt with the doc tomorrow Nat as it becomes an issue when you can't keep liquids down.

Natale28 Sun 14-Jul-13 12:58:21

Ok thank you, i will call to get an appt as soon as they open in the morning. I saw a doctor a couple of weeks ago to confirm pregnancy and said sickness had already started numerous times per day but he wasn't very interested. It has got worse since then so i'll call tomorrow and make sure they listen to me. I'm supposed to be going to work but i can't imagine how i could cope with that x

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LucindaE Sun 14-Jul-13 13:24:26

Welcome to Champagne and Natale.Natale I so agree with others, that isn't normal MS, for sure that is Hyperemesis, and as they say too, you need to watch out for dehydration. Can you get some kesostix from a chemist to check urine for dehydration, as you may already be dehydrated enough to need admission for fluids? I'm glad you are seeing dr tommorw. Meanwhile, do try that soda water trick that an ex sufferer recomended, or ice cubes and ice lollies. Flat coke sometimes stays down when water won't, don't ask me why, that seems to be true of unhealthy drinks, I think it's the sugar.
Champagne Poor you, I agree with others again, realistically you will be too ill to work yet awahile. Some women force themselves in, but it means being sick when travelling, in the street, in front of your colleagues or pupils or whatever, it's just a living nightmare and the only thing that seems to help even slightly is lying down and doing nothing. Can the GP extend y our sick note? I know it's depressing, I hope you get relief soon, but most women with this are off sick for weeks. It is so annoying when people confuse this with ordinary pregnancy sickness, even those who have normal MS badly who feel sick all day and sometimes are sick can carry on feeling miserable, this is different, like being hit by a train!
Feekerry Hugs, how are those liquids staying down? Sorry OH is being terse, he must know how ill y ou are as you were in hospital for six days just a short time ago. Don't feel at all guilty about thinking those thoughts, everyone tends to, nobody on here will be judgemental. How long along are you now, how near one of those scans which help a bit to see there is a purpose to this torment?
RNJ How are things?
wavesandsmiles Are those contractions continuing?
Hugs to all who feel in need, or gentle pats.

Hope your doctor helps you Natale. I put off pushing for proper treatment for a long time and ended up super poorly.

I'm having stop start contractions. More start than stop today, and feeling tired even though I managed to sleep last night. What with the vomiting and crying on top I am just feeling battered. DD is ill too so trying to look after her as best I can and realising that I am asking a bit much of myself but no one else to ask for help. Which is why I keep crying!

I am praying that this is nearly over. I'm 38 weeks tomorrow, so desperately hope that my baby is on the way and that this isn't a cruel trick.

Natale28 Sun 14-Jul-13 13:49:16

Thank you all for your advice, it's nice not to feel alone in this!x

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feekerry Sun 14-Jul-13 18:45:58

feel a bit better (emotional wise) after some reflection and kind dm taking dd away for a few hours so me and dp can relax a bit. its just so hard doing this with a little toddler!
i had a early scan in hospital so i saw the little bean with an exceptionally strong heart beat so i couldn't do anything about it now but it doesn't stop me thinking about it every day.
i about 9 weeks (sobs) now and think the hcg hormone is probably at its highest now as i am really struggling with the constant sickness and nausea.
it really is the pits

Beccadugs Sun 14-Jul-13 19:08:29

Hi Ladies,

Wondering if I can join. I don't officially have HG but am sure u must be pretty close. Feel constantly sick, not just in my stomach but in my throat too. Being sick 10-12 times a day (increasing daily), as well as almost constant wretching. Have been put on some anti-memetic wil hitch helped a little yesterday, but back to feeling dreadful today.

I can't face drinking or eating anything. Althought have been forcing ice water and ginger ale down. My DSIL told me to eat ginger biscuits yesterday and I nearly clocked her one... Do you think if I could stomach a ginger biscuit I would, if it was as simple as that!

To top it all off I have quite bad diahorrea and am very paranoid about dehydration, NHS 111, however, are not.

Would be great to have some people to commiserate with.

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RNJ3007 Sun 14-Jul-13 20:00:47

Hello to you new ladies. The support on here is amazing, you're in the right place for commiseration and ideas for strange things that might help.

Lucinda I am having some uncomfortable contractions... More than BH but not enough that I have to breathe through them. Enough to stop me in my tracks though. Yuk. Sickness not been good today, though feel a tad better having had a cool shower (helped by DH as cant step in unaided anymore...) and am sat in a towel in front of the fan. Classy!

Discovered that bottle green's pink tonic water clears the nasty mouth taste and stays down fairly well. Been on the melon today, that works. Might try some strawberries once my last ondansetron of the day kicks in.

fee Thinking of you. Not fun times.

waves I hope this turns into the real thing for you.

Beccadugs Sun 14-Jul-13 20:21:39

Thanks for the welcome!

Bottle green pink tonic water sounds nice(ish) and ill try anything to get the gone off cucumber taste out of my mouth!

So sorry others are feeling so bad... But thanks for the welcome.

RNJ3007 Sun 14-Jul-13 21:03:40

Becca I hate tonic water... I have no clue what compelled me to try it, but I am glad I did! Hint of pomegranate and elderflower.

Take care of yourself, try and get some kesostix to check dehydration, and ice is good for when even fluids seem too much.

Chewing ice cubes myself - a mix of water and apple juice. Strawberries were too much to even look at!

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Sally8655 Sun 14-Jul-13 22:48:47

Evening ladies,
Welcome to the ladies joined today

Been a rough day for me. Today my ondansetron and cyclizine don't seem to have touched the nausea and back to being constipated too. Gona start drinking the movicol to avoid the nurse having to come out with an enema :-(
This heat is killing me, I ordered a wall thermometer which is reading 27 now at this time at night. I've got my fan on 24/7, window open and blinds closed to block out the sun but nothing works. I can go downstairs although its probably a bit cooler as I won't be able to get back up for the bathroom. Yes I'm still stuck in bed and week 12 starts tomorrow. The dizziness is a bit better since I cleared the ear infection but feel like jelly on my legs and completely exhausted.
Hope I'm not too sick tomorrow as I have my consultation with work over the phone and they are going to serve my notice. I don't think that'll be a quick call.
Any way, only 5 days till hubby is home!!! Can't wait :-)

Feekerry- feel for you, hoping you get a bit better soon xx

Waves- wow I'm so excited for you and hope it turns out to be the real thing too, just think of the joy and relief!!! Xx

Rnj- I dried off in front of my fan too, but it did not bring any relief. How long have you got now, are the contractions the start of something exciting too? Xx
Hope all the new ladies get some medication soon xxx

RNJ3007 Sun 14-Jul-13 23:20:42

champagne Still water was a major no-no for me until I hit about 30w! It was all about San pellegrino with fresh lime for a LONG time! Sour things are gooooood. Grapefruit juice and sparkling water was a big thing for a while. Cold Granny Smith apples are amazing. I took to slicing them, dunking in lemon juice and freezing them, bliss! I'm using children's Jack n Jill raspberry toothpaste. It is wonderful. The phlegm issue, sadly, I can't help with. Mine is far worse if I've not had enough fluids though.

Sally Poor you. It was the first time I was a 'normal' colour all day. Shame it didn't help you out. Hoping you have a better day tomorrow. I'm only 33w2d, so hoping it isn't anything more than niggles. They have slowed right down now I am in bed (with cold flannel on head, another on bump and an ice pack for the SPD. Up in 6.5 hours for work and too uncomfortable and queasy to sleep. Only 5 more days though; then summer break and then unemployment and becoming the human dairy again. Can't wait!

Our thermostat is claiming it is 28.5 degrees in here... Not looking forward to tomorrow in my SE facing, 9 windowed classroom. sad

Beccadugs Mon 15-Jul-13 07:03:16

I have had 10 blissful nausea free minutes thus morning, then I moved and it all flooded back...

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Beccadugs Mon 15-Jul-13 07:28:34

Yep! Managed to take it without moving but then had to get up to pee!

I've managed to shower, and by hook or by crook I am going to work today... (Probably for all of ten minutes!!)

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Beccadugs Mon 15-Jul-13 08:58:37

Oh bad luck champagne!

I wish I hadn't, although the saving grace is the air conditioning...

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LucindaE Mon 15-Jul-13 11:17:53

BeccadugsWelcome, for sure 10 -12 times has to be Hyperemesis, re NHS advice being so scanty about dehydration - they may not realise how bad the vomting is - my usual question - have you got kestostix available from any chemists to check? As a rule of thumb, if you've been unable to keep water down for 24 hours when pregnant it's a medical emergency, don't want to alarm you, but you can so easily get dehydrated and have to go in for fluids.
Natale Sorry you had an insensitive GP - have you had any luck with meds at the Dr's appointment?
Champage This heat must be torment - making the dehydration and sickness worse - how horrible to be camped out in the bathroom. I have to say that I don't know what makes that awful phlegm like saliva stuff better except I used to suck barley sugar,the old fashioned stuff, and that worked temporarily - and I had to spit it out into a bowl. It just about puts the finishing touch on the torment. Aagh! about those attempts to commute - obviously, nobody thought of offering a seat - and yuk about those wretched ginger biscuits.
RNJ Melon - how could I be so stupid as to forget - they recommended that on the US thread - some had it mashed up and frozen into cubes - and hurray for the bottle green pink soda water. I am so glad you only have a few more days torment in that hot classroom.
wavesandsmiles Poor you, having to look after an ill DD and crying, hugs. I am keeping my fingers crossed those contractions continue...
Sally I do hope you are 'lucky' (for this thread) and get relief early on. Good luck with that phone call to mean work!
FekerryI'm glad DM took your LO out a while to give OH a break - I sometimes wonder if OH's should start up their own thread, but men are so bad at 'disclosing' things, they seem to see talking about problems as a weakness. I'm glad you feel at least a bit less sad and that you saw that strong heartbeat so early. I am sure everyone has those thoughts of termination at times, you wouldn't be human if you didn't...Almost all women at some time seem to say 'I can't do this', but somehow, they do...
Sorry to anyone rudely overlooked.

littlepinkfizz Mon 15-Jul-13 16:03:48

Hi everyone.havent posted in a while. Have been in hospital for fluids for 4 days and now lost a stone which leaves me under 7 stone. No vomiting just relentless nausea. Mood is dreadful and am seeing psychiatrist. Is it normal for me to regret ever getting pregnant? Feel so guilty. Hope everyone feeling a little less horrendous x

Sally8655 Mon 15-Jul-13 17:08:22

Littlepinkfizz- wondered where you went. Poor you! For me I was sick quite a few times but not nearly as much as some of the other ladies. It's been the constant nausea that's plagued me too. Amongst dizziness etc.
The IV fluids were obviously needed when I had them but didn't make me feel any better like they do with some.
I've been pretty emotional and depressed due to the way i feel and being bed ridden. I too wished I did not get pregnant due to the sickness many of times and feel real guilty for feeling it. I'm hoping my scan next week will take the feelings of regret away.
I'm just starting week 12 now and I can manage a little more to eat but still really sick. I'm hoping though that being able to eat a bit more and keep it down is a sign i'll recover over the next coming weeks.
Some days are better than others, a few days back I managed to eat loads but back to a little fruit and juice again for now. Had some melon today as trying to get on top of fluids. Really though I'm lucky if I'm able to get 1 litre down.
Did you manage to get some medication? I went through them all until I managed to persuade the GP to prescribe ondansetron which take the edge off.

Lucinda- I had my consultation today, all 6 min of it! He couldn't wait to get me off the phone. No thankyou for 11 years service, just that my employment ends in 22nd sep. lovely!

Hugs to all the other ladies xxx

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Natale28 Mon 15-Jul-13 19:18:51

Hi Lucinda, i have been to the doctors and they've given me promethazine teoclate which appears to be for travel sickness! Not sure these will do any good! Taken one so far and slept for 3 hours!



Sally8655 Mon 15-Jul-13 20:31:00

Hi champagne, sorry your so poorly. I've been made redundant. I have had a consultation and many are going. Just had many issues with them for the past couple of years since I was disabled with M/E and they have been pretty appalling with my redundancy situation. Glad to be shot of it all in a way but made a formal complaint for all the unfair treatment. Today my manager told me to pull myself together as I have a baby on the way! And been told my sickness is not genuine despite consultants letters and hospital stays. Disgusting treatment.

Natale- I've had them and didn't find them great but they do work for some. If you don't find them helpful try to see your GP quickly and ask to try another x

SlinkyB Mon 15-Jul-13 20:43:18

Evening all, not posted in ages as was feeling so much better, but didn't want to get my hopes up. Am now 12+4 and I think it's safe to say I'm one of the lucky ones whose HG is just lasting the first trimester? As feeling a million times better. Still taking the Cyclizine first thing and last thing as feel sick then, but am generally "normal" during the day, hurrah.

Have my scan in the morning and can't wait. Seeing a baby on the screen will make all those weeks of misery seem worth it I'm sure.

I was worst weeks 6-10 so really feel for the newbies here, or those currently at that stage. Fingers crossed it will pass after twelve or so weeks for you too. Just take each day as it comes and do your best to keep yourself hydrated.

sally Gobsmacked at your work, what utter twunts. I'm not surprised you're very weak after being in bed so long. Not long til dh is home smile

champagne like Lucinda says in her OP, there is no tmi on here. I too seemed to produce a lot of clear phlegm. Spitting it out definitely helped, as found if I didn't it would build up and then I'd vomit pure phlegm. Lovely! Don't know how to avoid it I'm afraid.

natale If those meds don't work then ask for some others. Although I'm afraid there's no miracle cure, but think some tablets suit people better/work better.

To everyone else who has supported me recently, THANK YOU SO MUCH it really helped me through the toughest days flowers

Best of luck to RNJ and Waves - can't wait to read birth announcements on here! Will continue to lurk, and wish everyone a speedy recovery from this terrible illnes x

Sally8655 Mon 15-Jul-13 21:02:15

Slinky I'm chuffed for you, hoping mine will pass soon too xxx

feekerry Tue 16-Jul-13 09:42:15

morning all. slinky hope scan went well?!!
little i know exactly how you feel. i really do. is this your first? how far gone are you now?
champagne hope all is well due date buddy!
sally well jel you are approaching 2nd trimester and rjn even more jel that you are well and truely on the home straight. omg the toast and tea i had after having dd was amazing! everything tasted normal again. so can't wait for that again.

does anyone else massively struggle having a bath or shower?? i find it one of the hardest things. i am always sick and really dizzy after getting out. i hate it. anyone else a bit stinky?!

Beccadugs Tue 16-Jul-13 10:33:56

I really struggle with showering as well, need to have a half hour lie down afterwards. It i can sit in a warming bath I'm alright, but hair washing is a bit much!!

Feeling dreadful today. Am hiding in the loo at work because I have been sick again and don't want to go back to my desk... Not sure why I came in. I think because my boss knows I am on medication I feel I can't take time off. Never mind that it doesn't really help.

How's everyone else doing?

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feekerry Tue 16-Jul-13 11:04:40

ye sat 3rd Aug champagne but i had an early scan in hospital last week and all was well so going by that early scan i am 9+4 today. only another 30 to go.......

Beccadugs Tue 16-Jul-13 13:00:25

I know I should go home, but I am
Too frightened to ask... Feel I've been taking the piss for the last two weeks, and don't want to be feeble now... I am aware of how utterly ridiculous that is... Can't sort myself out though!

feekerry Tue 16-Jul-13 13:11:19

you really need to get signed off becca we have all been there trying to drag ourselves in to work but realistically it does no good for anyone.x

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Reebok Tue 16-Jul-13 18:08:02

Hello ladies, lots of new names on this thread...sorry to hear so many of you are still suffering. Hang in there. It will be worth it in the end.

Just wanted to check in lucinda and let you know that at 39 weeks, I am no longer being sick and managed to come off my meds at 37 weeks. Granted I still have that disgusting metal mouth and phlegm which makes me feel slightly nauseous but I think it will only go after labour.

I've been having contractions since 37 weeks and am in slow labour apparently. No sign of bubz yet though. Will let you know once the LO arrives.

Ladies, this thread was a lifeline for me...there were times I wanted to have an abortion but Lucinda and others like MOP, Nannyl and Room got me through it. You will get through it too.

LucindaE Tue 16-Jul-13 18:13:57

Becca You poor thing, of course you aren't taking advantage of wor, meds or not. If you are still being sick they aren't working that well, anyway. I do so hope you went home - you shouldn't feel guilty, you need to be signed off, y ou can't battle on with this as others say, least of all in this heat, travelling, etc.
Littlepink Sorry you had to go into hospital and for four days, and that it hasn't helped the nausea. Some feel better for a bit, but as others say while the IV drugs often help the vomiting,they don't help the nausea so much, which is dismal. So sorry about desperate mood, I hope the psychiatrist can help but everyone regrets getting pregnant at the worst stage. Do feel free to moan as much as you like.
Feekerry Poor you, it didn't seem to do a lot for either in your case. How are those liquids staying down? I think a bath or shower is one of the things that seems to set so many people off- I had nice dirty hair and nice uncleaned teeth...
Slinky Lovely news, I hope scan went brilliantly, thanks so much for coming on to encourage othrers, and do keep us posted.
Sally The best of luck for the scan, I so hope it cheers you up a little. The eating sounds a very hopeful sign. Sorry work have been so foul, and have to say again that I am so glad you have complained.
Champagne Hugs. Are you still feeling totally awful?
I hope wavesandsmiles is still having contractions, and that RNJ isn't. When does term time end?
Natalie Glad you got meds. I so agree with others, do ask for different ones if they don't work, there are a lot. Recently there seem to be a lot of GP's prescribing the travel sickness meds and they often seem to make people more sleepy than anything.
Sorry if I've rudely overlooked anyone.

LucindaE Tue 16-Jul-13 18:16:24

Reebok Cross posted when I was tying out my long post below! Slow labour sounds tiresome. Hugs, and best of luck. Lovely to think of baby being with you, soon! I am so glad you did stop being sick eventually, but it was so nasty of that Hyperemesis to come sneaking back as it did.

Reebok Tue 16-Jul-13 18:48:21

Thanks Lucinda. Hopefully won't be too long now but yes this slow labour is a nightmare especially in the heat. Glad to see you're doing a fantastic job supporting the ladies as always. X

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RNJ3007 Tue 16-Jul-13 19:05:46

Awesome news Reebok on the stopping sickness. Slow labour is rubbish, been there with my first. Hoping this one doesn't follow suit!

Thanks Lucinda - I am 3 days away from End of term (and job...) well, 2.5. Still sporadic contractions, but not as many. Trying to stay hydrated and rest as much as I can between classes.

Thinking of you littlepinkfizz and becca - littlepinkfizz I regretted it for a while. I had to keep reminding myself why I was doing this AGAIN. Took until post-20w to really feel like this was worth it. It does get easier. Finding the right meds (eventually) was a big boost.

Thanks to all of you for generally being ace and helping me stay afloat. Being understood helps a lot!

Reebok Tue 16-Jul-13 19:15:05

Thanks RNJ...how far along are you now? Are you also a teacher? I managed to keep going until 36 weeks when I started my mat leave...I was signed off for 2 months...I was forced back to work. Teaching is definitely not an easy job to deal with when you have HG. You're doing really well to keep going until the end of term.

RNJ3007 Tue 16-Jul-13 19:25:33

Hi Reebok, I'm 33+4 and yes, a secondary MFL teacher. I had about 2 months off too, and was harrassed and bullied into coming back. Then found out my contract would not be renewed after all, so become jobless on my due date. It has been hellish... Severe SPD on top of the HG has made proper teaching nigh on impossible. 4 more contact hours... Then I am obliged to be in on Friday to help move classrooms...despite being on crutches. Joyous. Leave at lunch for consultant though.

My classroom is SE facing, so I'm having to force down 4-6l of fluid a day to stop my ketones skyrocketing... And DSs head is so bloody low that I can't pee properly! Have to try and rock him out the way!!!

Reebok Tue 16-Jul-13 20:28:52

Wow you sound like you've had a hellish pregnancy. Not long to go now. Hopefully HG will pass for you soon like it has for me and well done to keep going so long...and on crutches too! Sucks about the job and awful that you were also forced to go back. Some heads are absolute asses!

Beccadugs Tue 16-Jul-13 20:50:28

Thanks everyone - after 30 mins if lying on the disabled loo floor I gave up and came home. Think I'll have to phone the GP again tomorrow, as I'm not sure the drugs are working.

I'm so sorry to hear about your work issues RNJ - what awful way to treat you!

Champagne sorry you've had a bad day, I might join you in that club!

Slinky I am also glad to hear that it might end at 13 weeks and I might be able to get excited!!

RNJ3007 Tue 16-Jul-13 21:00:55

I can but hope Reebok, but I was sick until 45 mins before delivery with my first. I can't let myself get too excited by the idea!!

And my line manager has been worse than the head. He's an arse of epic proportions.

Poor you Becca, I tried cyclizine, metoclompramide, promethazine, prochlorperazine and something else before getting ondansetron and getting less hideously ill! Hope you find something that helps soon.

Everyone else - take care in this heat. Thinking of you all.x

SlinkyB Tue 16-Jul-13 21:31:43

Evening all, scan went well and am 13 weeks today (not12+5 as epu scan showed). The pics are rubbish due to my womb tilting back, but it was wonderful to see the heartbeat and a little hand waving! grin

Becca can't believe you went to work that ill. You don't get any medald I'm afraid! Definitely go back to GP in the morning and ask for different pills, and to be signed off for a couple of weeks. I felt guilty when I did it at first, but you really do need to rest and look after yourself. Is this your first pg? My colleagues are cold, unfriendly arses, so the guilt subsided rapidly.

champagne evenings always seem worse for me. Try not to over-do it during the day, even if you are feeling a bit better then <hugs>

RNJ You've had a truly rotten time of it. What use will you be moving furniture on Fri? confused Maybe it's a ruse, and it's really a surprise baby shower?! Whoops, there go the pigs in the air! wink Hope colleagues are at least nice on your last ever day there.

RNJ3007 Wed 17-Jul-13 06:12:29

Slinky Yeah... I thought that - I'll be useless. Will be taking iPhone speakers and having a party throwing out paperwork on my own I think!

And hahahaha... No. No baby shower. I doubt I'll even get a card!!! Overheard one colleague mention her relief that the 'pukey drama queen' was leaving. Because apparently 'morning sickness isn't that bad and doesn't last this long. Stupid cow just wants attention!'

If I finish Friday without assaulting someone, it'll be a miracle!

Trying to steel myself to go in today so I can say goodbye to my 10s, but been up vomiting for 2 hours. Sat in a sweaty heap on bathroom floor. Roll on 1300 Friday!

Beccadugs Wed 17-Jul-13 07:45:39

Morning ladies,

Like RNJ I have been up puking for 2 hours, so I am going to bite the bullet and get signed off for the rest of term. It's only 6 days and I'm sure they can cope without me!

This has definately been my worst morning so far, sick so quickly in succession that I nearly couldn't breathe. (Surely there is some sort of medal for that?!?!)

How is everyone else doing today?

Just wanted to say thank you so much to all the ladies in this thread. So great to be able to coke and not be stotic, as it really does help!

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Beccadugs Wed 17-Jul-13 10:19:27

Just back from the GPs. Only signed off until Friday...

Apparently also have a UTI and this is probably the reason I am feeling "a bit under the weather"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I felt like throttling him. I have had a UTI before and yes, it does make me feel a bit ropey, but not vommiting up pints and pints of bile and everything I have eaten... Am I over reacting?

Glad you are feeling a bit better champagne!

LucindaE Wed 17-Jul-13 11:14:47

Sympathies to all those with their heads down the loo this morning. This heat must make is so much worse. I can't beat the advice from Spright and others, Becca about how you shouldn't even think of working. RNJ that awful day when you were sick an unbelievable number of times was, I hope, the worst one ever? I don't know how people teach at all. It is absurd to expect you to move classroom stuff on with Hyperemesis, SPD,and in advanced pregnancy. What are they thinking of? Do they expect you to stick a broom up the place where the sun don't shine as well and sweep the floor? Excuse my coarseness, I am outraged...angry
Hyper Hugs and Sprite so glad scan went well. Pinkfizz With any luck it will ease at some point after 14 weeks, maybe earlier - it is only for the unlucky few it is as bad at the end as at the beginning - by fifteen weeks I only suffered from severe heartburn myself that sometimes made me vomit - I was really helped by Acupunture - but that is so expensive and its results seem so variable - it seems to last forever, but the torment will end.

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LucindaE Wed 17-Jul-13 12:24:57

Champagne So glad you've got time off and an understanding doctor. That isn't sexism, only a tiny minority of male medics seem to have any understanding of this, and only a minority of OH's have, either, unfortunately...

RNJ3007 Wed 17-Jul-13 12:33:58

Poor you Becca Hope things improve.

Lucinda Ueah, it's not quiiiiiite as bad, but it was bad enough to make it come out of my nose, give me a nosebleed and a headache. And feel free to be coarse; I swore at my head of college today whilst explains why I will be sat down clearing cupboards and nothing else on Friday... And if they don't like it, they can, well... Go forth and multiply, shall we say?

I stupidly came in to say goodbye to my 10s. I am an idiot. Now cramping, and (tmi alert), my body appears to have gone into 'clear out' mode... Which after 6m of being chronically constipated is somewhere between relief and 'oh crap, am I going into preterm labour' Waiting for callback from midwives.

Beccadugs Wed 17-Jul-13 15:01:39

Thanks RNJ!

Champagne I have only seen male doctors, today's was the worst, he was very young too (probably the same age as me!!) so very unsympathetic. He even said: oh yes since Kate Middleton has HG every pregnant woman comes in worried about their morning sickness! It's very normal.

However, my boss has been brilliant, which is at least a blessing!

I am glad yours is good champagne, and I am now on cyclazine, which seems to have started taking the edge off. Still feel v sicky, but no vomming for several hours, and have kept a (dreaded) ikea ginger thin down!

Natale28 Wed 17-Jul-13 17:50:45

Hi everyone, i have been taking the prescribed travel sickness pills but i'm still being sick a few times a day (although admittedly less than before), still have nausea and no energy and now i am so sleepy i literally can't keep my eyes open in the afternoon - is this the best i can hope for or perhaps a different tablet might work better? I haven't been at work for 3 days and am feeling some pressure to go back now but from my GP's attitude when i saw him last i doubt he will sign me off.

I can see from other people's responses that there really appears to be a lack of understanding as to how debilitating this is - as if we all just want to copy Kate Middleton?! If they really understood how awful this was i think women would be given the right medication and support rather than being made to feel like drama queens or that they're just trying to skive from work - i'd do anything to take this away and get back to my full-time 9am-6pm job!

Rant over!

Hope you're all battling through this heat x

Natale28 Wed 17-Jul-13 17:52:36

And by lack of understanding i mean by the Doctors of course!

LucindaE Wed 17-Jul-13 18:29:18

RNJ Oh, no, fingers crossed it's the heat that has cleared out your bowels, not prem labour. What does midwife say?
Becca Natale and Everyone I am always dismayed at the lack of understanding, in some ways the Kate Middleton thing has been a double edged sword and that remark about 'Everyone worrying their sickness is Hyperemesis' is just plain infuriating. Did he check you for dehydration at least?
PinkFizzHugs, I hope you feel a bit less awful today.

Natale28 Wed 17-Jul-13 19:14:29

No he didn't even check me for that even though i had cracked lips and a sore in my mouth which i understand are signs of dehydration! I think i'm going to have to go back and ask for a different doctor.

Beccadugs Wed 17-Jul-13 20:13:03

Same here Natale.

Beccadugs Wed 17-Jul-13 20:16:08

Ah fumble fingers...

Once the sic saw the UTI that was it, nothing else could be looked at...

In other news the cyclazine has taken the edge of the sickness, feel more odd than anything now. Have discovered that watered down ginger ale seems to be the best beverage for me. I feel so thirsty, but all liquid brings the nausea back &#128554;

SlinkyB Wed 17-Jul-13 20:53:41

becca and natale please do go back and see different doctors tomorrow and demand to have your ketones checked! Outraged that this wasn't done today given your condition and symptoms!! angry

I agree that attitudes and treatment vary wildly. My poor niece was being sick every half an hour, was bed-bound for weeks and lost 9lbs in a fortnight...her midwife and GP told her it was "normal" and to try ginger biscuits and flat lemonade. I only found out recently (she's now 20wks and fine) and was so shock and angry on her behalf.

I think I had a HG with my last pg, 3yrs ago, but the (older, male) GP told me I had a stomach bug hmm This time I saw a younger female doctor (Locum) who was v.v. sympathetic and got me admitted to the hospital for much-needed IV fluids.

Don't compromise here ladies, it's not normal and you're not being a wimp. Keep going back for different meds, and ask to be signed-off for a week or two!

champagne you sound like you have a good one there.

Lucinda thanks for the new nn wink

SlinkyB Wed 17-Jul-13 20:56:17

RNJ How are you doing now? Bet you can't wait to see the back of those poisonous people at work. Your life will be soooo much better without them and their nasty comments. Hope you're not in pre-term labour. Thinking of you x

Beccadugs Wed 17-Jul-13 21:48:59

Have just seen the nicest out of hours GP! I blubbed all over him! He was very surprised NOT to find any ketones in my urine, as, in his words, it was more like tar than wee. However, I have has a nice anti sickness jab, and instructions to return to the hospital in the morning if I can't keep a couple of pints of water down, and insist in an IV ketones or no. He was quite cross that they hadn't listened about the extent of my vommiting earlier.

In other news I am feeling extremely unreasonabley cross with DH as he has gone out with his mates tonight (I did say it was OK) and is now stuck up in London as the trains are broken. I know I said he could go, but I didn't want to be the pregnant wife who insists he is here all the time. But in my heart of hearts, I wanted him to say, no, it's ok, I will come home and sort out the house and hold back your hair while you vom everywhere. And because I've had to get myself to the hospital I'm even more cross, it's not his fault, so thanks for the rant!!

RNJ3007 Wed 17-Jul-13 21:49:44

Thanks Lucinda and slinky - I'm contracting irregularly, but no further dilation, although I'm most of the way effaced. I have an appointment on Friday for further checks and a monitoring session next week if things don't change.

DSs head is fully engaged. Non palpable and basically impossible to see on scans! My bump looks like a bump now he has dropped - though like a small 20-24w bump, not a 34w bump!

Still got a very dickie tum, but not been sick since I saw the osteopath this afternoon. She really helped my spine and has unlocked my shoulder which is dying from crutches hell. Hoping I might sleep tonight! Can but hope.

Now... Melon and pink tonic. Thinking of all of you still suffering. Hope things ease for you soon.xxx

Sally8655 Wed 17-Jul-13 22:23:10

Evening ladies
So sorry lots of you are so poorly and having issues getting signed off work.
I'm glad to day being signed off is not a problem I have.
Another day stuck in bed though and struggling to go to the toilet. I am quite dehydrated at the moment as those ketones have crept back and the heat I'm sure isn't helping. Trying to drink more fluids but this is so difficult when I'm feeling so sick and my body seems to reject water. Due to drinking the same juices for a few weeks now they are also churning my stomach.
However after such an awful hospital experience a few weeks back I'm going to persevere with fluids as I don't want to have to go back in for an IV.

Thinking of you all, it is comforting to know I'm not alone in this experience xxx

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Sally8655 Wed 17-Jul-13 22:57:16

Champagne- best thing to do is have a little milk. I know the thought is disgusting but getting some down will prevent the burn even if it does come back up xx

Tallyra Thu 18-Jul-13 07:29:27

I feel so bad for you all ladies. I can't believe that a doctor would turn someone away in this heat when they are complaining of vomiting and dehydration. I am shock. at the gp. I'm so glad the next one took you seriously.
Have you looked at the pregnancy sickness support website? there is a page there to help people describe how bad it us, maybe take that in to work so you don't have to go back with them thinking you're just overreacting.

In all of this, has anyone been offered steroids? It was the only thing that seemed to help me, but as I miscarried soon after each time I am not sure if it really was them that helped or hindered.

Beccadugs Thu 18-Jul-13 12:18:08

So sorry to hear of your losses tallyra.

I am feeling pants today. Not sure that the cyclazine is working. Stomach churning. Even water or ice chips leave the taste of death in my mouth... Feeling v sorry for myself.

Tallyra Thu 18-Jul-13 12:24:31

thank you becca. Have you tried chipped bits of boiled sweets? just enough to change the taste?

Beccadugs Thu 18-Jul-13 12:32:23

Yes, thy work, but quite quickly the sugar maker the death taste come back...

Tallyra Thu 18-Jul-13 12:43:34

I remember that taste. I never found a better solution I'm afraid, but the sweets helped the most.

LucindaE Thu 18-Jul-13 13:01:31

Sorry, everyone, going down with a migraine, joining you all in violent puking, but I'm coming on to say Natale do , please, get some kestostix, this doesn't sound good. Hugs to all, back asap.

jenpatnim Thu 18-Jul-13 13:34:08

Hi all, I am new here. I am 9+6, and I have already had a hospitalisation for 4+ ketones. I am on ondansetron 4 mg 2x a day and I still feel terrible. I have lost 1.5 stone, and it is really hard to keep hydrated and eat enough. It is reassuring to know I am not alone.

Beccadugs Thu 18-Jul-13 14:21:48

Welcome jenpatnim.

I know we are not supposed to have green tea, but if it is what I actually feel like swallowing, do you think it would be ok?

Sorry about your migraine Lucinda. Hope you feel better soon.

Ketostix available on amazon 100 for about a £5

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Beccadugs Thu 18-Jul-13 14:55:26

It stops you from absorbing frolic acid. Mid you, as I keep up chucking my vitamins it probably doesn't matter that much!

Champagnebubble Thu 18-Jul-13 18:26:14

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Hello, I'm an old poster who's back to say hi. I had HG in first pregnancy and severe morning sickness (don't know if it's HG if it only lasts 12 weeks?) at the beginning of this one. I am now 25 weeks and can't believe i stopped feeling sick at 12 weeks. In my first i was sick until the day i gave birth. When the sickness started this time i had some very very dark thoughts and actually had a counselling session to help me get thru. I assumed that i would feel the same all the way thru and i just didn't know how i would cope. The only people i've found who can relate to this level of constant sickness and nausea are people who've had chemo and chemo is horrific. I think so much more needs to be done about the awfulness of this condition. and If anyone wants to talk to me privately about their experiences, then please feel free to message me. And if you're on twitter, i'm on there too. And also i would like to say a maaaaassive thanks to Lucinda, who runs this thread. She too, helped me get thru an awful time. Good luck girls.

Beccadugs Fri 19-Jul-13 10:44:56

It was very enjoyable so thanks for your reassurance champagne!

Glad to hear that things can get better Jess! I told DH about what you'd said about chemo patients and he was very scathing. Needless to say I was quite cross.

Feeling grim again today. Raspberry jelly is helping though, cold and slips down, and puts some sugar in the system!

We have a man here finishing our kitchen so I am having to be sick v quietly...

How's everybody else coping with the heat?

Beccadugs Fri 19-Jul-13 10:45:31

Ps thinking of you today RNJ, hope you are doing the bare minimum of classroom sorting!

Sally8655 Fri 19-Jul-13 11:20:37

Hi becca, this heat its killing me, it's 28 degrees in my bedroom. I have my fan in but it's blowing hot air! Gona have to look into buying an air conditioner at this rate. Trying the jelly and ice water too but still don't think im getting enough fluid. It's far too hot and its supposed to be cooler today :-( wish it was winter and snowing xx

Beccadugs Fri 19-Jul-13 11:29:33

Me too Sally!! Roll on autumn... I am also trying to persuade DH we need an air conditioner, got one in France a couple of years ago that was v cheap and worked well!!

Halfling Fri 19-Jul-13 11:43:06

What treatment have you all been prescribed for ondansetron related constipation? Lactulose is not helping at all.

I just feel so worn out that I just want to close my eyes and not wake up again. I am 8 weeks and can not even begin to imagine how I will make it to 40 weeks with HG and such acute constipation.

jenpatnim Fri 19-Jul-13 12:35:08

The heat is something else! I am sipping water and trying to eat - the ondansetron keeps me from vomiting but I still feel pretty rough all the time. I am trying to eat as often as I can but am still losing weight. Going to see if I can get some ketostix today to keep an eye on the ketones in case I need to go back for more fluids.

I hit 10wks today...

Chin up, girls!

LucindaE Fri 19-Jul-13 13:07:12

Jenn and Hafling Welcome, sorry you are suffering horribly, just catching up. Hafling My brains are scrambled today, did you say you needed advice on constipation? I think those jelly suppositaries (spelling spelling affected, too) you can get at Boots help most people (don't tell them you ae pregnant because of silly rules, they use them in hospitals for pegnant women) but and others are even able to drink that dreadful fibregel stuff which is a puke maker without Hyperemesis, but failing that, I have known some go for the awful home enema thing - but that is a last resort. Normally, cocanut ie in a bounty works, but that doesn't bear thinking of on the way up again.
Jess Thanks so much for the message of support. I know you were desperate at one time, and I am so happy that this thread helped a little.
I think the twelve week scan is a landmark for most people. That it went at twelve weeks doesn't mean it wasn't Hyperemesis, as some people are really lucky and it does go really early, I think Narnyl was one this time.
RNJ Like others, I hope you are doing as little as you can.
My sympathies to all suffering in this dreadful heat.

Hello all. Beccadugs, why was he scathing? Has he had chemo? That would make me cross too. I saw my mum go thru it and one of my close friends so other than going thru it myself, i think my experience of it would be quite accurate. But the comment was just a way to try and relate to others how it feels. Perhaps it's too close to the bone for some?

Also tho, i STILL have close friends who are sceptical about how awful i felt, with one constantly telling me that nothing was as bad as having a miscarriage and that i should be grateful to be pregnant. Which of course i was! But it's a completely different experience. And probably not comparable but that's not to undermine the horrificness of HG. I just can't talk to those friends about it because i get so upset with them for being so dismissive. I mentioned yesterday that i wanted to start doing some volunteering or fundraising for HG Support: https://twitter.com/HGSupportUK and one of my friends was really cynical about it, suggesting that you wouldn't need to fundraise for a charity that's just to raise awareness! now THAT made me angry!!!! angry

On the green tea note, i find that green tea makes me feel a bit sick if i have it on an empty stomach even NORMALLY let alone preggers, because of the tannins. But everyone's constitutions are different, did you have some? I think sugar in it helps tho if tannins are too strong. As for not having it, i had/have it when i want. I love it iced with honey.

As for keeping cool, has anyone (who has a fan) tried the bowl of ice infront of the fan thing? Apparently this cools the air a bit. Altho i am sure the ice would melt pretty quickly in this heat! And cold flannels on the back of your neck helps! I'll try and think of some more!

ps hi Lucinda!!!

Beccadugs Fri 19-Jul-13 15:45:17

I think he though it was wrong to compare something "natural" with something so grim... I obviously nearly clocked him one.

Today has been a very bad day for me. Have managed to drink approx 5 mouthfuls of liquid, and have vimmed everything I've tried to eat back up again... Still
Waiting for my amazon delivery so we shall see what the ketostix say. Also ordered some sick bags from amazon as have to go to my grandfathers memorial
Service next week and it is at 11am, prime sickness time.

Oh you poor thing. I utterly feel your pain. And having to go to a memorial is sad enough without feeling so horrible. Sending cyber hugs. Xx

Sally8655 Fri 19-Jul-13 19:30:02

Hi ladies

Halfling- I've had the constipation bad due to ondansetron. My doc prescribed me senna, this did nothing. I then tried the glycerol suppository but this didn't help clear me as I'd been constipated for about a week. The fibergel just made me more bunged up as i wasnt able to drink much. He then prescribed me movicol, this was a last resort before the nurse came out with an enema. After 5 sachets of the stuff I was able to go comfortably without any cramping within a few hours. I now only need one every few days.

Hugs to you all xxx

Sally8655 Fri 19-Jul-13 19:34:45

becca- just noticed your post. By the sounds of things you'll probably be really dehydrated and have high ketones by now. Especially in this heat. If I were you I'd call the local maternity department for advice. You'll probably need some IV fluids if your only managing a few sips. I've been there and feel for you xxx

RNJ3007 Fri 19-Jul-13 19:52:19

Hi all.

Thanks for the well wishes. I hope everyone gets some relief from the heat soon. Sorry for not name checking - in a bit of a tizz.

I've been admitted. Sudden swelling, my BP almost doubled, spilling 3+ protein... So far, CTG says bump is happy as can be, but my body is failing. Had blood drawn, urine sent for analysis. If BP rises overnight and won't come down, I may be given an EMCS. I'm only 34w. Hopefully back tomorrow with good news, not more bad.

Oh, and as a leaving gift, I was sick on my evil line manager's car! smile

Sally8655 Fri 19-Jul-13 20:05:57

Poor you rnj. At least your in the best place now. Hope you have better news tomorrow. Live the being sick in the car xx

Just have to share a little something. I rented a medical dopler out of curiosity and it arrived this morning. They say you can pick up heartbeat at 12 weeks so thought id give it a go. I was sceptical but waited till I had my full bladder, and just now after lots of fiddling, I found it! It was faint to start with until I found the perfect spot and then i could hear it really clear. I first found my own so as not to be confused. Really excited, can't wait to let hubby hear when he gets home tomorrow.
It makes the sickness feel a little more bearable!!

Oh RNJ you are not having a good time, but so so pleased you are being looked after now, and also pleased that you managed to be sick on evil line manager's car. Well done.

Sally - fab news on the heartbeat. I am glad that it has made the sickness a little more bearable.

Not much to report from my world, 38 + 3 now, and so hoping that my little one makes an appearance soon. I just want to have a day of not being sick. I am permanently exhausted this week and having to have a sleep in the day time. On off contractions and cramps for a week now, so hoping that things get moving pretty quickly, but I guess he will come when ready.

Hugs to everyone who is having a horrid time.

Someone above asked about ondansetron induced constipation - I ordered some cheap glycerol suppositories from amazon which have helped. I know they say not to use in pregnancy, but they let me have them in hospital, and to be honest I figured it was for the best. Still managed to develop piles the past couple of days sad There really doesn't seem to be a think that HG or its medication overlooks when it comes to completely humiliating side effects.

jenpatnim Fri 19-Jul-13 21:06:02

Well I went out and got ketostix, so I can keep an eye on my ketones. Just realised I forgot to phone for the results of my liver function blood test - duh! Other than that, feeling miserable. Only managed 15 mins at the shops to grab the ketostix and then went home again. Was invited over to friends but couldn't face it.


LucindaE Fri 19-Jul-13 22:23:19

Just dashing on to say Becca I so agree with others, I think you probably need to be admitted for fluids by now, poor you.
RNJ Oh no, I'm keeping my fingers crossed it will be OK, this is just what you don't need.
Sally I am so glad you had that boost, lovely.
Hugs to all.

LucindaE Fri 19-Jul-13 22:26:38

wavesandsmiles Oh no, fingers crossed this misery ends soon.
RNJ grin I'm glad you treated that car as that line manager deserved. It was accidental, of course wink

Beccadugs Fri 19-Jul-13 23:17:23

Thanks for your words Lucinda and everyone. Have just had the out of hours GP here, no ketones (thanks tonic water!!) so had a lovely anti-memetic injection, and another prescription!! It has made me feel a little better though!

RNJ, how horrid for you, lots of virtual hand holding from this end. Does the IV help?!

LucindaE Sat 20-Jul-13 09:57:19

RNJ Any news?
Becca So glad you got a doctor's visit, so you should...
Champage and Everyone I hope not trapped in the loo this monring...

RNJ3007 Sat 20-Jul-13 09:58:11

Good morning lovely ladies. Again, thank you for the support.

It was a choice between his car or the flower bed. I decided the flowers didn't deserve that. Haha! So glad to be done with the place. Onwards and upwards (next year...)

Waiting on doctor now - my bloods and urine are borderline. But my BP has decreased, and no headache or blurred vision. Still contracting, but no cervical change overnight. Still puffy, but it is like a sauna in here, so hoping that is partly to blame! Fingers crossed they let me monitor at home.

Managed some banana on toast this morning! Winner! And over a litre of water since I got woken at 0645 for ins and another CTG. little man is 'exceptionally happy', which is a relief!

Beccadugs Sat 20-Jul-13 12:21:02

I don't know what he injected me with last night, but I feel amazing! I have managed to eat a whole veggie brunch, drink two Capri suns and made it to London and Back! It is starting to wear off now, but so good to have a morning of feeling normal!

I have a new drug to try that you only take at bed time, hopefully this one will work!

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Beccadugs Sat 20-Jul-13 15:03:13

Oh no champagne! I have a strategic bucket or large plastic bowl (40p from wilkinsons) in each room so there is never any danger of sick on the floor!

I am now feeling absolutely dreadful. Might ask if try can give me the injection very day... Or possibly whatever it is in pill form.

LucindaE Sat 20-Jul-13 15:25:55

RNJ I hope they let you home soon.hopefully to get some rest there.
Champagne Oh no, like Becca I used to carry a bowl about the house, but I still got caught out sometimes. Congratulations on being able to discuss dinner every day, that's very stoic.
I hope it is a little cooler in other places today, it's just a bit cooler here.

LucindaE Sat 20-Jul-13 15:27:52

Becca Sorry you feel bad again. I wonder what it was?
Champagne What meds did you say you are on?

RNJ3007 Sat 20-Jul-13 16:44:56

I'm home! In a probation kind of way. I have to go for 2 CTGs and 2BP and urine dips a week on top of consultant, nutritionist and haematology. And physio. My bloods came back more abnormal that normal, but just under the cutoff for staying in. Protein was down to 1+ this morning, so home til Monday now.

Exhausted and sore from needles, but glad to be home with my bucket instead of those sodding emesis basins!!!

Hope everyone is enjoying a slightly cooler day. Magic injection sounds good. Only fancy melon, pineapple and frozen apple slices now. Listening to my husband clearing the garden after doing a third load of washing for me, bless him.

And DD should be home from her play date soon - her bestie's mum insisted I went home for a rest and has a spare booster seat to bring her home. So sweet.

LucindaE Sat 20-Jul-13 19:39:55

RNJ Good, you need as much rest as you can, and so agree it's less horrible to be sick at home.
Champagne I've just scrolled back, so you're on cyclazine? Remember, there are all sorts of meds they can try else or in combination if it isn't really stopping the puking. Sorry about horrible green sweets experience - I ate some sort of green sweets too when suffering,and have had an aversion to green sweets ever since.
Natale and Everyone I hope no emergency admissions...waves you are on the home stretch now! The pink castle at the end of the horrible hyperemesis experience is in view (I always picture that: I had on old Snakes and Ladders Board as a kid with a pink castle in the clouds as the last square),and we are waiting to greet you with a standng ovation, well deserved.
Hugs to all.

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LucindaE Sun 21-Jul-13 13:34:18

Champagne Hugs on offer, or cyber pats, if you feel too hot and delicate.
SallY Is OH back?
RNJ I hope resting and not contracting?
wavesandsmiles I hope contracting?
Someone mentioned steriods- Talyra? I think MOH who is an expert on meds, and set up the Pregnancy Sickness SOS site has discussed steroids with a couple of people on here, but I don't know how many have been on them, I think only a few. Apparently they work wonders but most people are apprehensive about taking them though you may be sure they wouldn't recommend them if there was a risk to the baby.
Slinky Sorry about renaming you - just seen your message, lol! smile
Pinkfizz Jen Beccadugs How are things?
Hafling Did you get the messages about the suppositories for the constipation?
Apologies to anyone rudely ignored.

RNJ3007 Sun 21-Jul-13 13:45:33

Poor you champagne It is no fun.

Lucinda I was allowed to sleep in til 10 this morning! So have had lots of rest. Still contracting sporadically, but nothing really ouchie. CTG etc tomorrow afternoon, so we'll see then. Slightly puffy, but not too bad. Only sick once yesterday, and today it is just the nausea.

Baby clothes all washed now (I just folded, hubby washed hug and collected in). Feeling almost vaguely prepared! Certainly ready to feel normal and be able to eat proper food again.

Sally8655 Sun 21-Jul-13 18:50:46

Hi lucinda,
Yes hubby is back, it's so nice to have him home.
Feeling really sick at the moment and although trying to eat fruit and drink water it's definitely not enough so quite worried.
I'm also dreading the trip to the hospital at 8am tomorrow for my scan as I know I'm going to be really sick.
Still taking tablets and not throwing up but the nausea is horrendous.

LucindaE Sun 21-Jul-13 19:00:52

Sally All luck with scan, take plastic bags doubled up, oh dear. What are those pesky ketones like? Do you find the soda water helps?
RNJ That sounds like a big improvement on the sickness side, I am glad you got lots of rest and the cramps aren't dramatic.
Thinking of everyone, particularly as it's very hot again.

feekerry Sun 21-Jul-13 19:18:34

hello all.
quick wave from me. don't post too much as find the scrolling of the screen makes me sick lol!
still sick city here. kinda hoped at 10 weeks when placenta takes over my hg my magically go....
no such luck. 10 weeks and still sick as a dog.
still have major issues with food and am soley surviving on iceberg lettuce.
doing this with toddler is so hard!xx

LucindaE Sun 21-Jul-13 19:51:37

Feekerry Poor you, I never understood that twelve week thing even for normal ms, and for this, I don't think anyone on here's had relief before twelve weeks, and I hope you'll be one of the lucky ones! I don't know how people get by with a toddler. Lettuce is healthy, though far from substantial. I don't think my diet contained anything healthy when in a bad way, it was crisps, flat coke, lucozade, barley sugar, jelly, some tinned fruit, iron bru, ice lollies, the juice of tinned fruit and oh yes, I did drink mint tea made with fresh mint, I found out later that was an eighteenth century cure for pregancy sickness which is interesting, but only the fresh stuff would do., and totthpaste tasted yuk.
The days will pass and just like Caramelokoalalover (otherwise Bluebirdsunshine who writes a nice blog,you'll have two children who can enjoy each others company(usually!). I wish I had gone for it a second time, hellish though it would have been with a LO.

glossyflower Sun 21-Jul-13 21:15:16

Hello ladies.

I meant to send an update a while ago but stupidly could not find the thread!

Firstly, I hope all you ladies are keeping strong, and keep the thought that there is light at the end of the tunnel.

Hyperemesis was by far the worst thing my body has ever experienced. I lost 13% of my body weight, was hospitalised, couldn't eat or drink for weeks and was unable to work for 4 months. It all started less than a week after I got married on my honeymoon lol.
I'm one of the lucky ones that it didn't last the whole way through. It started easing off at about 20 weeks, although I continued the ondansetron, cyclizine and omeprazole - I was just too afraid to give them up!

My lovely little girl, Jessica Rose Maria was born on April 25th weighing 7lb 14oz. It was a bit difficult to push her out, so after two hours of pushing she was delivered by forceps.
I am totally head over heels in love with her.

Unfortunately, nothing in my life is straightforward - two days before she was born my dad was admitted to intensive care in a coma caused by a rare virus.
I felt so sad giving birth because I knew just how much he was looking forward to being a first time grandfather.
When Jessica was 5 days old, the doctors told us there was nothing they could do for him and he was not waking up.
I stayed at the hospital for a few days with my mum, husband and Jessica to be near my dad.
Me and my mum brought dad home after a few more days and cared for him until he died a week later. Jessica was 15 days old.
During the time he was at home he managed to open his eyes for a short while, after weeks of being unconscious and though unable to speak, he saw his baby granddaughter for which I am so grateful.

As my lovely little girl grows I will tell her all about the granddad who was so looking forward to her arriving into the world.


RNJ3007 Sun 21-Jul-13 21:28:04

Oh glossy, so sorry for your loss, but also congratulations on the arrival of your little one.

fee Poor you. Thinking of you.

sally Good luck with the scan. The early morning ones were hellish for me too.

Lucinda Yesterday was better, but this afternoon/evening my body played catch up. Ergh! Managed to take DD to her friend's party, and was dispatched to a comfy seat in the shade with a bowl of strawberries and lots of ice. So glad I have a few friends who understand it!

Off for my CTG/BP/dipstick and possibly bloods tomorrow. Fun times. Will be finding out my weekly consultant slot too. Woo... Hoping I can keep things ticking over for 3 more weeks. Back to semi-painful contractions every 8-10 mins too. Which is making me feel sicker. Joyous!

jenpatnim Sun 21-Jul-13 23:51:23

Glossy, that is such a sad story, big hugs.

Fee, I am right there with you at 10+2 and still feeling horrendous. I am praying that it eases off at 12-14 weeks. The nurse at the hospital did tell me that 10 weeks has the highest concentration of hormones and can be the worst week, so maybe it will be better next week?

RN hope you feel better soon - it seems you don't have long to go?

I have had a nice few days hanging with my family while SO was working, although very little food, constant nausea and frequent retching. Apart from all that I am doing fine. Still taking the ondansetron. Question - was anyone else prescribed Thiamine (the B Vitamin) to take with the ondanstron?

RNJ3007 Mon 22-Jul-13 08:07:35

jen I have 5w4d to go. Getting there. Finally.

Been up since 5 being sick. Going to be a long day!

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Beccadugs Mon 22-Jul-13 11:15:36

Morning all - I had quite a good weekend, not too much vomming and managed to eat some food.

Today is a bad day. Am just waiting to go into the GPs now, I am going to cry all over then and beg them rondo something. I have been vommiting on and off since 8am. I'm not sure i can do this for another day let alone 6 weeks... I am dreading GPs as they have been quite fob offy with me so far. How do you make th believe you?

Tallyra Mon 22-Jul-13 12:44:09

becca, you should throw up over the reception area, they believe you after that! (said from experience!) it also makes them see you quicker....

Beccadugs Mon 22-Jul-13 12:53:03

After waiting 45 mins in the GPs I am now waiting in the GAU/EPU. Thank you thank you female GP!!

Sally8655 Mon 22-Jul-13 13:13:02

Hi all,
Well I'm stuck in hospital, came in for my 12 week scan, which was amazing. All is fine with baby and measured a little further. Little thing was jumping about and sucking thumb. Very funny to watch.
However after routine tests, I've been admitted to the ward. The main concern is a possible blood clot on lungs after being stuck in bed for so long.
I thought my breathlessness was just another pregnancy symptom but apparently not when it's this bad. I've also got the dreaded ketones and protien aswel as something else in my urine but can't make it out from the notes. Oh and blood pressure still quite high and pulse on the high side too.
Going to keep me in to do tests, scans and a chest x ray.
At least I have a bed next to the window with a large fan.
The smells of hospital food are awful and just had to stomache a few bites of egg sandwich as its all they had. Yuk!
They are supposed to be bringing me my sickness meds but as yet have not :-( they had better hurry unless they want to clean a pukey floor.
Can't wait to get home again. Did not expect all if this especially as I thought I was doing well considering how I've been.

Hope you all have some relief soon xxx

jenpatnim Mon 22-Jul-13 17:23:07

Oh no, Sally! Becca, I hope they help you.

Champagne, are you taking anything for the sickness? I am lucky in that the ondensatron helps me keep food down, even if I am constantly nauseated.

I called to get the results of my liver function test and I have to go in so they can discuss it. Not encouraging.

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jenpatnim Mon 22-Jul-13 18:32:48

Champagne, keep an eye on it. The cyclizine did wonders for me - for a while. Then it just stopped working - you may need something else

LucindaE Mon 22-Jul-13 20:08:21

Oh, no, it seems there are lot of admissions, and people awaiting/having tests. I shouldn't have said 'I hope there are no admissions' - mother hen put a curse on it shock
Congratuations on Jessica Rose Maria thanks and thank you so much for coming on to encourage others. I am so sorry about your loss, it is an odd thing how so often there is a death in the family before a birth, but usually its someone older than your own parent. That is very hard.
Becca Oh dear, poor you, this sounds nasty, so you are to be admitted? I hope the fluids make you feel a bit better soon. It is awful when you puke till your throat bleeds and it does make you nervous.
Sally Poor you too - why don't they have the common sense to give you a bowl, or two? Good luck with all tests, and I am so glad they spotted the cause for the breathlessness, as you say, it is so hard to tell one symptom from another.
RNJ I hope tests are OK for you, too - I'll keep my fingers crossed for three weeks. You deserve a medal after what you have been through, and of course wavesandsmiles too. Puking from five am sounds dismal.
Jen Again oh dear, I am wishing you the best with tests. I do think they might be a bit more soothing on the phone. I am glad at least Ondansetron is helping. What you say is interesting about peak in hormones -things span from controllable from uncontrollable for me round the ten week mark, and it makes sense.
Tallyra You are so right about puking to make a point - I wish I had puked on the mean GP's shoes, only bile, but unpleasant enough...
Champagne So agree with others that if the cyclazine doesn't work, there are lots of other meds they can try, and it's so hard to tell the difference between stomach bugs (obviously one's immune system gets hammered with this) and the 'normal' Hyperemesis.
Feekerry and others, I hope coping.
Sorry to anyone passed over. Goes off clucking anxiously...

Tallyra Mon 22-Jul-13 21:25:32

Well, I am coming up to 1 year since my last bout of hyperemesis and the horror and scaredness is starting to subside. Following this thread is helping to remind me what it was like. I am coming up to being admitted for a hysteroscopy to see if all the erpcs have left any scarring, and then hopefully we can try again.
I know I will almost certainly have hg again, and if all goes to plan it will probably be around for longer than just a few weeks.
I hope I have gained some tips from all of you, and I also hope I have been helpful and encouraging to everyone currently suffering.
I'm not quite sure what I think I am trying to say actually. Possibly something about how long it has affected me and to say to everyone how amazing you are all doing in this heat. I don't envy you, but just keep going with those drinks!!!

RNJ3007 Mon 22-Jul-13 21:49:35

Thanks Lucinda - my BP was ok today, trace protein, CTG acceptable. I don't think Thursday's will be though. Meant to be avoiding stress...

Just been to another hospital to say what looks to be goodbye to my grandma. After losing my Oma (German grandma) during my first HG pregnancy. Feels like the universe is punishing me. At least I got to say goodbye this time (was only 12w first time, and just out of hospital. And then had a big bleed due to stress... Couldn't travel). In one of her few lucid moments she suggested a name for bump. And it works. So looks like a tribute to her will be done with the naming of our son. I feel like someone ripped my heart out.

LucindaE Mon 22-Jul-13 22:02:05

RNJ Hugs, oh dear, I am sorry for your loss. If it isn't bad enough having Hyperemesis,and poor you having two losses in Hyperemesis pregnancies. I'm glad she thought up a name and test results not too bad.
Tallyra Hugs. You are well prepared. I had one of those dilation and evacuation things, they seemed blase about it, and I hope scarring is unusual.
I hope Sally and Becca and are getting some relief, and everyone is coping.

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Sally8655 Tue 23-Jul-13 09:37:48

Morning everybody,
A few more tests today and blood thinning injections, then hopefully ill be able to go home.
There is an older nurse here who is treating me like I'm a child. Never mind that I'm one of the oldest here at just 27. She keeps making rude comments due to me only being 12.5 weeks. Very strange.
This morning after letting everybody in the room listen to their babies heartbeats. She turned to me and shouted, your not allowed one of these yet, there's not much in you. Cheeky woman!

LucindaE Tue 23-Jul-13 09:38:23

Champagne and our hospitalised members, how are things this morning (silly question of a morning envy? I hope RNJ 's baby takes heed of her/his mother's admonitions to stay inside a bit longer...

fl0b0t Tue 23-Jul-13 09:42:47

Hi all, just checking in. How we all doing?
I hope things are looking up.
I'm 32 weeks now and feeling a bit low. Things feel like they're just all going a bit wrong (small things that build up) and when you put that ontop of 6 months of nausea, it feels a bit hard to cope today. After a car accident the week before last (and an overnight stay in hosp for my anti-D topup), finally finishing our kitchen to have the fridgefreezer breakdown yesterday after a 12 hour day out the house in 30 degrees for work.... Fedup sad Could do with the magic nausea cure..... maybe 8 weeks away?

Beccadugs Tue 23-Jul-13 10:07:47

Oh Fl0b0t what a nightmare for you...

Luckily they didn't keep me in hosp. I had two lovely bags of flyids, a lovely anti sickness jab, and got to come home!

I also got a scan! The doctor was worried about a molar pregnancy apparently, as the hormone levels can rocket in that case. But all is well, and I am a week further along than I thought so maybe the sickness will do quicker!

Feeling rough today, haven't made it out of bed, luckily DH was here to remove this mornings bucket!!

Hi everyone. Signing in for my second HG pregnancy, wish I'd been on mumsnet when I had my first.

I'm 6+3, and have just started cyclizine. I'm hoping I'll avoid hospital this time round.

Becca, I thought I might see you here, hope you're feeling better after your magic fluids.

Beccadugs Tue 23-Jul-13 10:36:34

Hi little, sorry you are suffering. I came over here as I didn't want to keep bumming everyone out on the antenatal thread! Fluids certainly helped overall, the rest of me not feeling like a shrivelled old raisin has help with coping with the queasiness!

Thanks Becca, I feel quite positive at the moment. In my last pregnancy, I couldn't see beyond the sickness, but now I know how wonderful it is having a baby at the end of it all. I have also asked for intervention at an earlier stage so fingers crossed I'll manage it better. Did the hospital give you meds to come home with?

Beccadugs Tue 23-Jul-13 11:11:45

Oh yes, hundreds! They haven't worked so far, but finding out I'm 8weeks not 7 has given me a bit of a boost, as it might end sooner!

Champagnebubble Tue 23-Jul-13 12:46:02

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feekerry Tue 23-Jul-13 13:45:12

hello ladies.
sorry to see some of you are in hospital and sally they are being shit to you... i find it bizzare that the levels of care vary so much from hospital to hospital.
my hospital is like a hotel couldn't have been nicer. i can understand why you would rather be at home.
hang on in there rjn the end is close!

so i have my mid wife booking in appt tomorrow... really interested to see what happens as i am under consultant care this time apparently due to prev emcs. i want an elective this time so will be v interested to see if i am just granted one or whether i have to argue my case like i have read alot of people do.
to be honest i wouldn't be massively bothered either way but would like to know from an early stage which it is to be so if i have to have a vbac i have enough time to get my useless at giving birth body ready!!

LucindaE Tue 23-Jul-13 19:46:23

LittleMachine Welcome, sorry you are suffering but I'm glad you are on meds early, which indicates they are taking it seriously. You'll find everyone on here very nice for sure.
Flo Oh you poor thing, I am so sorry that nausea hasn't gone away, and now it's still there at 32 weeks. Are you still bravely going in to work on public transport, too? Hugs. Sorry about accident, what is , sorry for ignorance 'D' topup?
Becca I'm glad you've got lots of meds and had fluids and injection. Thanks goodness it isn't molar, that must be a nightmare. Lovely OH to empty bucket.
Feekerry Best of luck with midwife appointment and about elective.
Champagne I am glad you are keeping some waters in, and I hope it was a virus. A temperature in this weather doesn't bear thinking about.
Sally Have they released you yet? I still can't get over their being stupid enough not to give you a [green] basin.
Hope RNJ and wavesandsmiles and Jen and Everyone is OK.