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What do you mean there's more than one!

(55 Posts)
Franykins Wed 22-May-13 14:36:26

Ok so just got back from my 12 weeks scan. It's TWINS!!!! Wow. Shocked much. But how exciting smile Crazy times ahead.

wifey6 Wed 22-May-13 14:37:03

Aww congratulations, how wonderful. envyenvy

FoofFighter Wed 22-May-13 14:37:24

grin congratulations!! Are there twins in the family or is it a complete curveball?

harleyd Wed 22-May-13 14:38:51

congratulations grin

Franykins Wed 22-May-13 14:51:51

Thank you smile Its a complete curveball. I'm just sitting here thinking OMG!! Haha. Non identical so who knows maybe one of each. Wow!

LemonBreeland Wed 22-May-13 14:53:05

Wow! How exciting, congratulations! grin

Franykins Wed 22-May-13 15:54:58

Thank you. still in shock shock how long till it sinks in!

TheNobodies Wed 22-May-13 16:04:18

My mum has 5 year old twins. Non identical boy and girl!! She didn't find out until 20 weeks, she cried and laughed, there the best thing that happened to the family. She carried them until 38weeks, had C-section because one was breech. Big-time Alex weighed 8+pounds (he was greedy) Girl- Alyssa weighed 6pound. Best of luck, so many adventures ahead for you :-D. It's amazing how simular and different they are. Alyssa is very behind and going through testing. Alex is ahead of everyone in his year, very clever! I really want twins! Congratulations x

Franykins Wed 22-May-13 16:06:00

Oh wow. I can't wait! I think I would like one of each, but as long as both are healthy who cares grin

RJM17 Wed 22-May-13 16:27:25

Congrats xxx

ladythatlunches Wed 22-May-13 16:46:25

Ooooo we have twins. I know the pure shock you are talking about smile
I think me and dh laughed then stopped then I cried. Ha ha

They are by far my easiest babies there soso happy smile

People used to say how lucky I was, at the time I was scared and now there here I know im lucky
Good luck and enjoy every minute

harrygracejessica Wed 22-May-13 16:58:40

Congratulations. I have 2 sets and the first set they said they are both fine and I didn't believe them lol.

How do you know they are non identical??

Franykins Wed 22-May-13 17:02:40

I can't wait. The sonographer said they are non identical as they have their own placentas and are in their own sacks.

harrygracejessica Wed 22-May-13 18:58:17

Sonographer needs to learn some facts then :-)

Each in their own sacs and placentas means they could be identical or non identical :-) only way to determine will obviously be if its a girl and boy or by zygosity testing.

notsoold Wed 22-May-13 19:08:43

Dh is part of a non identical set of twins.... I think it is wonderful!

PollyPlummer Wed 22-May-13 19:10:59

Congratulations, my 2 are also non id and nearly 3. I still sometimes look at them now and think Fuck I've got twins grin

2Labradors Wed 22-May-13 21:49:26

Oh wow, congratulations x

Frenelder Thu 23-May-13 08:21:13

Congrats how exciting x

Franykins Thu 23-May-13 08:56:37

Thank you everyone. I spent a lot of the night thinking 'oh fuck oh fuck oh fuck' (sorry for the language but that's what I was thinking) this morning I had to ask DP if it was really Thursday and I hadn't dreamt yesterday. He just laughed and said you didn't dream it we're having twins dear. How crazy! I am so full of excitement today, still shock, but hey all will be ok grin How amazing!

harrygracejessica Oh really, I did a fair bit of reading last night and from what I read two placentas means no identical. I am now confused haha.

PollyPlummer haha I can see me doing this a lot.

Congratulations smile

Like harry has said, you cannot tell until you have had zygosity testing once they are born. If the fertilised egg split very early on then they would have separate sacs and placentas but still be identical. It astounds me how many medical professional get this wrong and tell patients the wrong info. 25% of DCDA twins are identical. I had to wait until my DCDA girls were born to find out if they were identical or not (both had their own sacs and placentas), it is obvious they are not identical, they look very different.

I know of 2 sets parents with twins who were told they were non identical and after 3 years found out they had identical twins.

I remember the shock at my 12 week scan well. I still look at my twins nearly a year later and think, wow, I have two babies!

JustCallMeBaldrick Thu 23-May-13 11:01:55

Congratulations! We found out at 7 weeks that there were 2 in there, and maybe 3(!), and my gorgeous boys are 7 now, and both fab smile

Welcome to the club!

bootsycollins Thu 23-May-13 11:09:28

Congratulations! thanks

How exciting! We have twins in our family, the youngest set are 2 now and we're all crazy about them, they're a comedy duo grin

Franykins Thu 23-May-13 11:21:55

Oh wow so I might have identical twins. That is bad they give out wrong info, not that it matters one hoot if they are or not grin She also said that as they have their own placentas they are the safest type of twins to have (i'm assuming she means not twin to twin transfusion that I have heard and read about) is this also incorrect?

Having their own placentas (DCDA) twins are supossed to be the safest type of twin pregnancy, she did get that bit right!

Franykins Thu 23-May-13 11:52:39

Well that is good to know.

Can I ask if people co slept their twins or put them in their own cots? We are tight on space (didn't expect to fall pg so quickly after coming off the pill and were hoping to move) so was wondering if we need two cots or two cotbeds or what. Am I over thinking this at 12 + 4 weeks? Or am I just trying to be prepared.

My twins shared a cot initially. I had one cot upstairs in our bedroom for night time sleep and one cot downstairs for day time sleep. I soon found they were disturbing each other so separated them at 7 weeks. I never bothered with moses baskets or cribs.

They were separated as soon as they were born into separate incubators then separate cots in the SCBU.

Feel free to private message me if you have any questions, I am happy to share my experiences with you. Finding out you are having twins is a weird experience!

Franykins Thu 23-May-13 12:33:33

Our house is a weird layout, due to integral garage we only have kitchen downstairs, then the lounge, 2 bedrooms and bathroom upstairs. Babies will be in with us (of course) but DP has two boys from previous relationship who we have week on week off so the second bedroom is of course theirs. Hence why we were planning to move before falling pg. We must just be super fertile or very lucky as we only dtd twice the month I fell! wink

I was planning on having the crib from my mum that she used for my sister and I, then my cousins were put in it, then my niece and nephew (of course new mattresses) so I wanted to carry on the tradition. It is bigger than a moses basket but I don't' think two babies will fit in lol. As with the layout of our house I don't think we will need moses baskets as they can just go in the bedroom in the cot/s for daytime sleeps too so I don't think we will bother getting them.

Thank you that is very kind of you and as I'm sure I will have many questions I'm sure will be in touch smile I think if I hadn't found mumsnet I'd be freaking out right about now! DP is being very laid back which is helpful to me and he has a very level head and can see the practical side of things so I know we will all be ok smile I on the other hand just washed my apple with washing up liquid! confused

Dildals Thu 23-May-13 13:56:43

Hi, I am 19 weeks pregnant with (DCDA) twins! I didn't know about the non-ID bit! Learn something new every day!

I read on the TAMBA website that they can share a cot until x months, but at one point they get too big and start kicking eachother and waking eachother up.

I am incredibly excited by the prospect of having twins! I was just thinking today I am quite enjoying the company every day! I can feel them move around now as well, so I really feel all three of us go to work in the morning etc. :-)

BettyYeti Thu 23-May-13 14:06:21

My sis has twins (non-id). They shared a cot to start with, until about 7 months old (first a double carry cot then a proper cot).
They are fab. The first 3 months or so were tough for her, but I think becuase they got used to the noise of the other one they are great sleepers - can sleep through anything. Once the sleeping was sorted it was easier and once they got older it became positively easy because they entertain each other. She would say it is easier than having a baby and toddler because at least they generally want to the same things at the same time and have similar interests. I am not sure all twin mothers would agree with that!

Quilty Thu 23-May-13 14:19:57

As a sonographer myself, I'm very disappointed to hear how misinformed your sonographer was hmm although to be fair there is huge inconsistency with how sonographers get trained in the UK which really needs addressing! My training is through a post graduate degree and I'm trained in all aspects of ultrasound, but very often dating scans are done by nurses/midwifes/HCAs who have just been taught how to get the measurement needed for dating and little else. Not necessarily a huge problem but it often leads to a lot of confusion caused by the things they say to patients. Anyway I digress...


Quilty Thu 23-May-13 14:20:56


Franykins Thu 23-May-13 14:23:02

Congrats Dildals

Yeah I think that might be where I read it.

I am excited but think it still needs to sink in haha. I can't wait to feel them move! I know they're only 6cm at the moment but I can't believe there's two in there grin

BettyYeti sounds wonderful, once you get used to it!

harrygracejessica Thu 23-May-13 20:20:11

Been manic with mine today haha.

Both of my sets were 2 placentas and 2 sacs yet one set are identical and one set aren't :-)

Zygosity testing is £80 - we had the girls tested at a year but the boys at a couple of months due to health problems in one twin.

Mine shared a cot - the girls until 8 months and the boys until 6 months.

Franykins Fri 24-May-13 09:11:58

Sorry Quilty I missed your post hmm blush and have only just seen it. That's interesting to know. Admittedly twin one was hiding so I had to be scanned 4 times (my BMI of 31 didn't help either sad ) but that shouldn't have changed what she knows about twins. She told me on the first scan they were non id. Oh well either way I'm getting very very excited now grin just have to wait till Nov to hold them.

harrygracejessica well there we go, proof!

Oh that's not too much. We've said that unless it is totally obvious they are id or non id we will have them tested, but of course the main concern is that they are both ok smile as with every pregnancy, multiple or not.

This is defo the way forward I think, if they don't like it then we can separate them.

BettyYeti Fri 24-May-13 12:13:39

Re getting them tested, I kow quite a few twins and in every case where they are physically alike enough to justify a DNA test, it has come back id. My sister's twins are non-id, and there is no doubt about it (one blond hair blue eyes and one dark hair green eyes) so not worth the cost of a test. I do though know one couple who have twins who look id but they were told they were non-id at your stage and have just accepted that. They tell people they are non-id and have never had them tested.

attilascupcakes Fri 24-May-13 12:22:55

So exciting! Congratulations smile

Franykins Fri 24-May-13 12:31:53

BettyYeti I think if it wasn't obvious I would find out, not that it will make a jot of difference of course smile

attilascupcakes thank you.

Littleolivetree Fri 24-May-13 12:36:12

No harm in being prepared, you are going to need to be super organised and supported.

Franykins Fri 24-May-13 12:42:55

That's what I'm thinking Littleolivetree Although maybe going to look at buggy's last night was a bit soon haha. I was annoyed though as the mothercare near us only had the double bugaboo (I seem to be in the minority that doesn't like bugaboos haha) that was crazy money, or just the double forward facing strollers. I wanted to look at the Obaby Zezu twin pramette, I want to be able to see my babies and felt the same when we thought it was a single pg. However the Obaby is online only. Very annoying. So we popped to babies are us and they didn't have single double buggy at all!!!! We only went to look so early on cos I want to be able to have a 'play' and see how easy it will be to manouver and fold down.

My sis has said if she wants me to she will provisionally book November off so that when DP has to return to work she can come and help which I thought was lovely smile and my mum is now retired so she has said she will help too smile Feeling very blessed with babies and family.

I would bet on an October (perhaps even September baby). When is your EDD?

Dildals Fri 24-May-13 13:18:31

franykins if you want to try out buggies then find a twin group near you and head over there if you can. There's one near me and I am planning to have a go at all their buggies :-). I quite like the look of the Out and About, but that is because I want a three-wheeler.

Dildals Fri 24-May-13 13:19:45

Oh and TAMBA has a review of all double buggies on their site, although I think you have to become a member first.

Franykins Fri 24-May-13 14:44:52

That's what I was thinking neversleepagain but hoping for at least late October. EDD is 30th Nov. Mum is gutted as she has booked and paid for a holiday at beginning of Nov (even though I said is that a good idea even when we thought it was one as you just never know) But maybe I should say to my sis to just warn work it could be any time from Mid sept onwards? What would you suggest?

Thanks Dildals I became a member of TAMBA a couple hours ago (then went for lunch) so need to explore their website.

RedPencils Fri 24-May-13 14:56:37

Aah you're post really made me smile. I rememeber having that same 'shit there's two of them' moment in the scan. Actually the Sonographer went out to get a colleague before telling me. I had a horrible 5 minutes thinking something awful had happened (like I'd got the test wrong and I wasn't really pg). Then said it was two. One of the best days of my life. grin. Congratulations.

Franykins Fri 24-May-13 15:08:04

RedPencils that would have scared anyone (I had the same thing with thinking I was going to be told I wasn't really pg) As it happened the sonographer didn't say anything for a while and just went "hmm" so I said is everything ok and she said well there's more than one, like it happens everyday. Which of course it must do but not to me haha.

sandyballs Fri 24-May-13 15:14:48

Congratulations, twins are fab. My non-ID girls are 12 now and very close. Can't believe 12 years have passed and would love to do it all again.

MrsEllsmore Sat 25-May-13 10:34:51

Ah congratulations. My grandad's brother and sister are twins but there are no twins in my dad's generation or my generation. I am the first in my generation to be pregant and I would love twins, got my first scan in just over a week so I'm trying not to think about it after all one healthy baby is just as amazing as two!

Franykins Sat 25-May-13 11:32:57

I've just got the results from my blood test part of the combined test. been assessed as low risk which is great grin but can someone help explain. The background risk was 1:803 and the adjusted risk for twin 1 is 1:9536 & twin 2 is 1:9764. What is the background risk?

Fingers crossed MrsEllsmore

We told DP's two boys last night and they seem excited. the youngest was worried he would miss out on cuddles bless him so i told him he won't and then we spent an hour in bed watching tv and having cuddles this morning whilst waiting for DP to bring us breakfast in bed. perfect start to the weekend grin

With regards to due dates etc, the majority of twins are born between 34-36 weeks. They wont let you carry past 37 weeks, some consultants push it to 38 weeks but NICE guidelines for DCDA twins is 37 weeks so that already puts you at around beginning of November (if they don't surprise you early!) My waters went at 34+5, it was very unexpected. I think if you aim for end of October/beginning of September that will be about right. My EDD was 5 November and they were born 29 September.

harrygracejessica Sat 25-May-13 14:11:25

I think momo twins they like to deliver between 32 and 34 weeks, non ids at our hospital they like to keep in until 38 weeks. Mine arrived at 33 weeks and the 2nd set at 36 weeks - ask for a tour of neonatal nearer the time so it's not quite as daunting first time as there are a lot of machines, noises and wires x

littleomar Sat 25-May-13 20:04:39

congratulations. I've got DCDA twins due end November. we've known for a while (early scan) but it still hasn't sunk in. your background risk must be age alone (mine was 1:150 old), adjusted is once they've factored in nuchal translucency and bloods.

I was planning to work until the end of September - 32 weeks. is that pushing it? my job isn't physically demanding but it's an hour's commute away. question for experienced posters - can they tell, once you get further along, how early you're likely to deliver?

Congratulations little

I worked to 28 weeks with 2 weeks leave tagged on so finished at 30 weeks officially. I couldn't have done one more day, I found everything so difficult, even getting up off the sofa!

harrygracejessica Sun 26-May-13 08:49:20

I was ambulanced from our hospital to another at 29 weeks as was contracting and they thought they were arriving soon and I still hung on until 36 weeks - they can't tell if you will have them early.

idobelieveinfairies Sun 26-May-13 08:59:41

Congratulations!!! Twins are fab ;)

I have 2 sets of them (none in family either).

I was told at both of the 12 week scans that mine were non-identical. Then when the 1st set were born they said they were identical boys as there was 1 placenta and the membranes were very thin in between the sacs. Also they said twin to twin syndrome was going on! I didn't believe they were identical so asked for the testing, these came back as non-identical. 2nd set were boy/girl so that was sorted. ;)

I had mine at 38 weeks and 2nd set at 40+1 weeks and have loved every minute.

Congrats again smile

Franykins Tue 28-May-13 11:48:07

Hi littleomar we're due around the same time then smile how exciting. How have you been feeling? I was planning to work to 38 weeks when we thought is was 1, but am now also thinking 32 weeks. I work about a 15 mins drive from home and its a desk job. I guess just have to see how it goes and how I feel.

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