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PG after MC - the Posifrickingtivity gathers pace, the Laura Ashley skirt has been returned

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Bakingtins Sun 19-May-13 08:56:59

New thread ladies, let's hope the good luck continues!
Shall we start with stats?

Sunday 19th May - today we are pregnant!

GaryBuseysTeeth: 1DS, 1MC, EDD 10th Aug
Pentagon: 1 DD, 2MMCs, EDD 31st October, next scan 14th June
BumpKitty: 1MC, 1DD, EDD 12 Nov, next scan 29th April
Shellshock7: 2MC 1DS EDD 12 Nov Next scan 28 June
Bodicea: 0DC, 2MC, EDD 16 Nov. Next scan 25th April
Ibelieveinpink: 2mc, EDD 17 Nov next scan 7th May
Lucky13: 1DS, 1 chemical, 2MC, EDD 23rd Nov, scan 11th May
Janielovescake: 1MC, 0DC, EDD 25 Nov, next scan 11th May
Vocalista86: 1 MMC, EDD 30 November. next scan (12 weeks) 20th May
Vixjane: 2 MC, EDD 30 Nov, next scan (12 weeks) 21 May
Aoifebelle: 1MC, EDD 1st Dec, next scan 20th May (NHS 12 weeks)
Jmf294: 1 DS, 1DD, 1 MC, EDD 10th Dec, scan 3rd May
Zeux 1DD 1MC EDD 14th December, first scan 24th May
DIYandEatCake: 1dd, 1mc, EDD ?16 dec, waiting for scan date
Booty: 1chemical EDD 19 Dec (Xmas baby!) next scan 25th April
pumpkinsweetie: EDD 26 Dec
WillSantaComeAgain: 1DC, 2MMC, EDD 30 Dec, 6 wk scan OK. Next scan ?w/c 17 June
Bakingtins: 2 DSs, 3 MC, EDD 6th Jan, scan 23rd April
Mummytothearkbuilder: 1DS, 1 MC, EDD tbc (Jan 2014), scan 24th May

Aoifebelle Sun 19-May-13 09:04:47

Yeah, felt a bit shy doing it myself.

Good news ladies, got two new bras and a fab swimsuit yesterday. Hollybobs here I come. Now just combined and Harmony test to get through.

Scan tomorrow at 10 am. Relatively sane so far, have been keeping busy. Hope it lasts

Marking my place on this lovely new threadsmile
Goodluck with your scan tomorrow aoifesmile
Talking of bras I best start think of treating myself to some new ones soon, as bursting out of my bras already!grin

shellsocks Sun 19-May-13 09:22:08

Thanks baking smile

Hope you're ok lucky have you rang MW of hospital?

shellsocks Sun 19-May-13 09:22:22


Thanks for the new thread bakings

Hope everything is okay lucky xx

IBelieveInPink Sun 19-May-13 09:44:31

Yay new thread!

Lucky hope you are okay. Get in touch with someone just to put your mind at rest.

Speaking of new bras I would like to share something. Before being preggy I was a 32D. Yesterday, I bought a 34F. So not impressed with this.

Aoifebelle Sun 19-May-13 09:47:09

I refused to look at the size of mine. Have asked OH to remove all evidence.

DIYandEatCake Sun 19-May-13 09:47:58

Hi everyone. lucky I hope you're ok and getting seen soon, keeping everything crossed for you.

Another awful migraine today, it hurts so much, I just don't know what to do with myself. Dp has been good though and got dd up this morning and has taken her swimming now, feel guilty for him having to do more but in too much of a state to do anything useful. Makes me appreciate having good drugs available normally though, what people must have gone through a couple of hundred years ago with all sorts of awful pain...
mummy have you found anything at all that helps? Have tried paracetamol (useless), ice pack, hot water bottle, punching self in the head....!

Good luck tomorrow aoife! baking how long til your scan now?

diy I don't find paracetamol helpful either - I think my migraines are immune to them!! I find a cold flannel over my eyes helps and just trying to sleep (I know how hard that is though). I really feel for you my lovely - I hope you feel better soon xxx

DIYandEatCake Sun 19-May-13 10:17:12

Thanks. It's just wearing me down so much as without drugs each one is lasting 3 or 4 days, and it's so hard to look after dd when dp's at work. Sorry to be moaning all the time, I know it's all for a good reason (hopefully - I am going to be angry as hell if there's not actually a baby in there next scan!).

Aoifebelle Sun 19-May-13 10:53:28

Oh dear DIY that sounds horrid, the lack of respite particulalry. Does there come a point where the need for pain relief out-weighs the risk to bean? Is it worth asking the doc about? I am asking from a place of no knowledge BTW.

diy when I was pregnant with DS I was getting them constantly and they were lasting for days. I went to the drs and they have me some painkillers - I can't remember what they were but they were safe for pregnancy - they made me sick so I had an anti-sickness tablet too. Could you give your GP a call tomorrow and explain the situation? Xx

DIYandEatCake Sun 19-May-13 11:39:42

mummy that's interesting, I wonder what they were. I saw my gp a few times when I was pg with dd, as the same happened then, and they weren't willing to offer any painkillers other than paracetamol. They did say I could try low-dose amitriptyline to see if it reduced the frequency of the headaches but as I didn't know if it would work I was reluctant to take the risk. It's a hard one, I know I'd always blame myself if I took something and there was something wrong with the baby, even if a link was unlikely. I think I might call the gp tomorrow though, I'm useless to dd like this.

GaryBuseysTeeth Sun 19-May-13 12:13:28

Thanks for the new thread baking!

Hope you're ok lucky?

Congrats on the scan chocolate

shell, I like Nate/Nathaniel, love Adam IBIP..but feels like an odd choice for us to call our 2nd son, iyswim?
Oooh, feels really posifrickintive discussing baby names!
Bought a sling yesterday, you know, for the baby.

DIY, glad DP is being fab, hope having a break helps you.

Vixjane Sun 19-May-13 13:35:46

Oooo new thread!!

Hope everything is ok lucky and we hear from you soon.

aoife did you get normal bras or maternity ones? I went to try some on last week in debenhams ans the maternity ones were terrible, felt like i had a monoboob! Ended up buying a normal bra in a cup size bigger which fits great nut it is underwired. I asked about the underwired maternity ones and was told they don't fit them for pregnant women even and they don't stock them in store even though they have them on their website! Good luck for your scan tomorrow!

diy hope you feel better soon!

BlackholesAndRevelations Sun 19-May-13 14:42:10

Good luck for scans tomorrow!

Quick post as I'm in the car (passenger!!) butwanted to say, lucky- really hope all is ok. Have you called the midwife? Xxx

Aoifebelle Sun 19-May-13 14:53:51

vix two soft cup bras, that are really supportive and avoid the dreaded mono boob. I posted a longer review on another thread. It has made the world of difference, no more itchy boobs.

IBelieveInPink Sun 19-May-13 14:56:53

Vix - I'm sticking in underwires. I know they say you not supposed to, but there's no way these 'F' badboys are going in anything other than underwires! Just making sure I buy regularly so that they fit properly.

DIYandEatCake Sun 19-May-13 15:36:45

lucky thinking about you and wondering if you're ok? Hope you've got some reassurance.

Well dp declared himself 'knackered' at lunchtime and collapsed on the sofa, so back to it. I hope he remembers, next time he's moaning about having to work while I 'laze about' all day....! Going to friends for dinner and may tell them, one eye is still red and watering and I'm not going to manage to eat much! Need to get eating more to grow a bump, back in size 8 skinny jeans and t shirt and it feels a bit wrong at 10.5 weeks...

Vixjane Sun 19-May-13 16:04:14

Cheers aoife and ibip. Mine are also an 'F' now so need to keep them in check! I might try out the underwired maternity ones in a bit. Just a pain in the bum to have to order different sizes to try them and then send them back! Oh well...

diy sending some biscuits your way!!

Aoifebelle Sun 19-May-13 17:53:16

Only just saw the last message from lucky on the old thread. Anyone heard any news? Sending you the posifrickintivity. Always happens on a frickin weekend. Thinking of you.

GardenWorm Sun 19-May-13 17:58:08

Oh lucky, hope you've been able to see someone by now, thinking of you X

I am well jel of this boobage talk, I'm on the small side and refuse to wear anything other than underwired until 'the milk comes in' and they go crazy, they'd look non existent otherwise.

Aoife good luck for tomorrow, mines at 2pm.....

LuckySocks13 Sun 19-May-13 18:04:36

Sorry I went missing today! Mums 60th And we put on a garden party at her house and didn't have my phone. I decided due to several previous poor experiences at weekends at hospitals to monitor the situation and then contact the early pregnancy unit 2mor if needed. Dreading a full on busy week at work this week. Really want to take it easy but can't take more time off! May see if can work from home on the afternoon. Thanks for all your thoughts. Feeling a bit emotional now I've got home!

Aoifebelle Sun 19-May-13 18:46:16

Good to hear from you lucky, have your symptoms eased off? If it was just the once and not too much then maybe not such a worry? (Easy for me to type eh?). Put those feet up and have a nice early night. A bath always helps me chill out. Xx

GardenWorm Sun 19-May-13 18:50:05

Probably the wisest thing to do Lucky fingers crossed for you for tomorrow. At least you've had a distraction today to get through it. How you feeling? Any more cramping?

Aoifebelle Sun 19-May-13 18:56:07

garden you need to get your stats up there. Is it your 12 week? I have somehow managed to put it out of my head. I think I am in denial.
Funny how your worry doesn't disappear, it just evolves into different forms. Now I can feel the bump coming up out of my pelvis, I am less worried about mc, have progressed to worrying about health of bean. Most worried about the prospect of potentially having to make some tough choices. I am thinking happy thoughts!
Good luck for tomorrow garden xx

LuckySocks13 Sun 19-May-13 19:03:26

No more spotting and not noticed cramping today but have been very distracted with family / kids and copious amounts of party food! It's just so unsettling! Loving the stats at the top of the new thread. Very useful smile

LuckySocks13 Sun 19-May-13 19:29:12

Hmm now having the back ache cramps again! Hope it's just normal?!

andadietcoke Sun 19-May-13 19:41:56

Oh Aoife I was exactly the same. And still am. With every milestone that should reassure me, I start looking for the next thing. I got so, so worked up about the NT result. Then it was the 16w growth scan (had dodgy measurements for one twin at the 12w one). Then it's the anomaly scan. Now I'm worried about preterm labour, stillbirth and cord prolapses. I'm assured that I won't ever stop worrying, even after they're born.

In other, more happy news, DH felt one of the babies kick for the first time today. He was quite freaked out by it, but I was delighted that one of our daughters will behave on demand for her daddy.

jmf Sophie is one of the few names we can agree on grin I'm going to need help with baby names after 28 weeks - too scared for the baby names threads!!

Aoifebelle Sun 19-May-13 20:03:48

lucky my back had been really sore today, just like period backache. Have also really been feeling the bump moving upwards, it hasn't hurt, but I can imagine it could. Maybe that is what you are feeling?

GardenWorm Sun 19-May-13 20:08:16

Aoife yes, well sort of as I'll be 13+4! Pushing it to the limits. Not sure I can get my stats up as they are in the title bit? Maybe you could add them tins?

Garden Worm: 1DD, 2MC, EDD 21st November. Next Scan 20th May!

Anda it's normal to worry until they are born safely, I did throughout my PG with DD and that was without any MC's. Don't get me wrong it was no where near the same as now but it was still there. I remember being really pissed off with a friend who told me when I had about 3 wks to go that she'd MC'd months before but just hadn't told me - I just kept thinking couldn't you wait another 3 wks until mine is born safely? I think it's your mothering instinct kicking in, it's kind of a good thing (!)

Lucky it is normal, just feels so wrong to the likes of us, your back may be kicking off because you've had a busy day? X

BumpKitty Sun 19-May-13 20:11:51

hey all, can't believe another weekend has gone in a flash! We'd have our babies in no time if we only had to do 40 weekends and not the boring weeks in between

I wore a normal bra the other day and have crippled my right boob sad it feels like it has been punched, I stupidly bought a maternity bra in my normal size about a month ago so that is sod all use now. Are you all just measuring yourselves? I have no faith in getting measured since reading all the MN bra threads. I didn't feel that much bigger but the wires are definitely cutting in so they will have to go (the wires that is!) monoboob here I come sad

My next scan is 21st June and 16 week check this Thursday, i hope they try and listen to the heartbeat - would be a good birthday present as I turn 33 on Wednesday grin

lucky the back ache/cramps might just be because you've had a busy day. Take it as easy as you can

diy you poor sod, no way should you feel bad for your DH having to do more with DD, there is no equality in pregnancy! I quite like being pg but there are some bits I would very much like to share with DH - heartburn and labour spring to mind.

anda you do still worry about them when they are 'out' but not in the same way i don't think as most of our worry now is the uncertainty and having no way to just immediately check whats happening iyswim.

WillSantaComeAgain Sun 19-May-13 20:33:35

Right, the maternity bras thing here: bravissimo

Thoroughly recommend a visit if you're a c cup or above (or a 34b) as chances are you're a d cup and up. They have excellent fitters and tell the truth about underwires. I wore an underwired breast feeding one- sorry, but you can't use non-wired if you're a 34GG!!

jmf294 Sun 19-May-13 21:17:42

Lucky- hope things are ok, I really thing a few days of taking it easy would be a good idea.
Aoife- I am with you on the current worries. I am so so scared about going back to the FMC to get the harmony result. I can play it all out in my head- being met by the consultant to tell me I am high risk and need CVS- what the hell do I do then!! It really makes me feel sick and I still have 11 sleeps to go.
Anda- yeah- love the name Sophie. If its twin girls I think the name Charlotte goes well with that- well that was our number 2 name on the list! The worry when they are here does go on, I obsessed over cot death, and every cold was menigittis- and I'm a doctor. Now my son has diabetes I worry about him all the time but thankfully I find working helps to put some perscpetive on life.
Garden- good luck for the scan tomorrow.
Bump- my boobs are sore but still in my normal wired bras. They have grown but not enough to get new bras. Last time I think they grew more!

Hi to everyone else- hope we all have a happy, healthy postitive week!!

shellsocks Sun 19-May-13 21:30:24

pink did you get measured? My fairly limited knowledge would say your back size shouldn't go up in PG only your cup size...but some people do go up one for comfort? Feel free to ignore me if you want!

Sorry abt your migraines DIY it just sounds so hard hmm. Don't worry any the weight tho, I've got a big bump but still weigh less than before I was PG, it seems odd but just trying to think of the benefits later when trying to shift the baby weight grin

lucky hope the cramps have eased and people here have reassured you, call the MW tomorrow smile

Good luck tomorrow garden smile

The worry once they are here is totally different, I think PG worry is so tough cos (well for me anyway) I'm not used to thinking abt myself/my body...I worry abt other people etc and would usually rather things happen to me than someone i love but having to think constantly abt what is goin on in your own body is so odd...whereas worrying abt your baby is so natural it's not the same tiring mental energy if that makes sense at all?! confused

andadietcoke Sun 19-May-13 21:40:44

jmf spooky - Charlotte is our other favourite at the moment grin I agree that they go really well together, but surname is Brown so we'd have to steer her away from Charlie as a nickname and towards Lottie!

DIYandEatCake Sun 19-May-13 21:42:07

Good luck tomorrow aoife and garden! garden I can heartily recommend new look's padded (lol!) nursing bras, cheap and better than the mothercare ones and make my 34a/bs look half respectable...!

vix ta for the biscuits! Currently stuffing my face with roule cheese on crackers so on my way to that bump... Migraine gone for now and feeling fan-bloody-tastic so making the most of it. We had a lovely afternoon with friends, didn't tell them but they probably guessed.

lucky glad there's been no more spotting, fingers crossed all is ok.

BumpKitty Sun 19-May-13 21:56:43

ah glad you're feeling better diy x

Bakingtins Sun 19-May-13 21:57:14

Good luck garden and aoife for tomorrow.

Sorry garden, can't work out how to edit post so can't get your stats in the title post...unless someone can enlighten me?

I love the name Charlotte, would have been my choice for a DD but our best friends took it (and we have no DD). We used their favourite boys name though! Great minds think alike. It becomes more difficult as more of your friends and rellies have children - a lot of the nice names are "taken".

Lucky take it easy and hope it all settles down for you.

IBelieveInPink Sun 19-May-13 22:14:40

Shell- no I didn't think it should either, but I think in this case it is just a different fit with a different style. The 32 wouldn't even do up, where as my other bra which is a 32E (different style, only bought 5 weeks ago) fits perfectly. Stupid m and s and their crazy sizes!!

JanieLovesLuckySocks Sun 19-May-13 22:44:52

Hi girls, finally back again after crazy busy weekend!

DIY sorry to hear your migraine came back, sounds bloody awful, hope it stats away this time.

Lucky sorry to hear about your panic sad hope it's nothing to worry about but worth checking out with epu just for reassurance x

I keep meaning to go into town to buy a new bra, got measured in m&s and they measured me a size down ffs! Stupid woman. I know they've definitely gone way up so might measure myself and order done online eventhough it is hassley.

Went for a mega long walk today and feel so much better for it so definitely going to walk more often. I tried on all my summer clothes this avo (we go away in 3 weeks) and NONE fit shock no trousers no skirts nothing. I hope primark have their linen trousers in stock or I'm screwed sad

Good luck fir tomorrow garden and Aoife xx

shellsocks Sun 19-May-13 22:47:47

pink I went to M&S when I finished bf and tried on nearly every style in the shop and they said only one style would fit me?! Went to debenhams and got loads of choice!

GardenWorm Mon 20-May-13 06:14:12

Happy Scan Day Aoife...and ME. Gulp. Sharing what POSIFRICKINTIVITY I have with you X Thanks for the good lucks peeps.

DIY I like these breasticle enhancer tips thanks - I will be checking them out! Glad your migraine has shifted, I have no idea about migraines but I know when I was first breast feeding I didn't drink enough water and my head nearly exploded (slightly over dramatic), so keep hydrated is my only assistance. Like you hadn't thought of that....

Anda I think Lauren is a very pretty girls name but you would have to make sure they were Lauren and Sophie not the other way round as people may think you have an obsession with Sophia Lauren! Or do I think into it too much?

Today I look about 6 months preggers but this is wholly due to two days of food being stuck in the pipes do to speak. Aaaargh! grin

Thanks for looking tins smile

IBelieveInPink Mon 20-May-13 07:21:07

Good luck today Aoife and garden! I will be checking in regularly for updates, hope you are able to enjoy it rather than just stress!! smile

ChocolateCremeEggBag Mon 20-May-13 07:23:25

Morning all. Good luck for the scans today Aoife & Garden - super nerve wracking but hopefully worth it.

I have my booking in apt today - hoping not with the MW who did it last time as she's not the most sensitive and bound to say something about my mc.

My bra recommendation is to order lots from somewhere that does free p&p and returns and have a try on session this Anita wired nursing bra is the one I wore through 6 months bfing and thinking of getting out soon. Now in the sale in fig leaves. I couldn't do a non underwired bra, hate hate hate the monoboob look and it gets so sweaty in there too confused

andadietcoke Mon 20-May-13 07:33:32

Good luck Aoife and Garden - sending lots of posifrickintivity your way grin

Zeuxippe Mon 20-May-13 08:02:05

Am desperate for a new bra! Have to undo mine whenever I get the chance now. Am stupidly holding out till after this Friday's scan though, to avoid jinxing it, as not even sure there is a baby in there yet...

Good luck aoife and garden today!

Aoifebelle Mon 20-May-13 08:23:26

Thanks for all the good wishes. Not feeling so positive here today. The frickin weather is sooo not helping. Just can't help thinking that if we get bad news and have some tough decisions to make we won't find out until the day before we go on holiday - the holiday my parents have decided to gate crash. I think the holiday is a good thing either way, but if we are in the process of making some major decisions - |I don't want them to see that. I was with them in Ireland when I had my mc, that was enough they don't need to witness anymore heartache from me. Come on next Tuesday. I might ring FMC and ask them to ring me if the test results come in earlier. Ummmmm.

For any of you living in London - here is a great place to get your bras sorted. I is a review I posted on another thread.
"Well success. On recommendation from my sister I went to a shop called bloomers on lordship lane east dulwich London. I have been wandering aimlessly in and out of large department stores for a while and haven't even tried anything on. This is my first pregnancy purchase and for some reason I was feeling a bit vulnerable about it and realised what I needed was a more personal experience.
I got great personal service from Sharon. She brought me three soft cup bras to try on, bought two of them, one fits perfectly right now and one with a bit of room to grow. They aren't the sexiest, but dear god were they needed. I also tried on 5 swimming suits all with proper cup fittings, would happily have bought two of them (this has never happened ever, I have never been happy with a swimwear purchase, just bought the least worst, even at bravissimo).
The bras were pretty reasonable, around the £25. The swimsuit was very expensive at £72. I had read the wrong ticket and thought it was £56, and baulked a bit at that, so I got a bit of a shock at the til. She kindly knocked a few quid off, and I figure I will be buried in it so it should pay back. Overall a very happy preggers lady."

WillSantaComeAgain Mon 20-May-13 08:52:41

Good luck today Aoifie and Garden :-)

Good luck garden and aoifie - thinking of you both x

Vixjane Mon 20-May-13 09:56:54

Good luck for scans today!

Glad you're feeling better diy

lucky hope you're feeling better today!

seeing the midwife this afternoon in preparation for our scan tomorrow

shellsocks Mon 20-May-13 10:09:02

Good luck aoife and garden smile

Pentagon Mon 20-May-13 10:10:03

Good luck today aoife (I guess you're having the scan right now?!) and garden!

Lucky I hope you're OK!

I'm feeling a bit calmer as I'm pretty sure I can feel the baby. It's little taps and only 3-4 times a day but enough to stop me from panicking. I just hope I'm not deluded and it is the baby indeed...

Thanks all for the bra advice, I need to invest on a couple of more - what I bought last time wasn't that great....but I'll wait till after the 20-week scan

Wishing everyone a good day and week ahead. x

GaryBuseysTeeth Mon 20-May-13 11:16:10

Good luck Garden (hope your pipes are cleared out enough for scan) & Aoife!! Thanks for the recommendation, close to Dulwich so may pay them a visit (plus there's a Jojo Maman Bebe)!

Hope it goes well with mw Vix, I've got my 28wk apt tomorrow, haven't seen her since early feb!

shell, I get what you mean, it's hard being so selfish in pg (for me) and getting DH to do everything around the house, plus I hate the attention/people asking how I'm doing!

GardenWorm Mon 20-May-13 11:46:46

Ha ha ha GBT imagine how funny that would be 'Sorry, we are unable to do the scan due to a large mass of fusili pasta blocking our view'

...on way home from work. Have bought 3 different sweets/snacks for DD and made sure she has the latest Peppa Pig magazine in the vain hope we will be able to keep her behaving for more than 1 minute. Bribery - you gotta love it!

Aoifebelle Mon 20-May-13 12:01:23

Ladies news this end not so good. Had NHS scan and the nucal was high - 4.2mm - overall had a pretty poor experience with a jeremy hunt of a midwife. Am now going to the FMC on Wednesday to get a more detailed scan and more information before making a choice on the diagnostic test.
I feel like I have stepped into a different world now, and might go a bit quiet on you. Thankyou in advance for all the good wishes that I know will come my way. Hopefully I will be back with you and the positifrickinivity soon. xx

Pentagon Mon 20-May-13 12:19:26

oh Aoife, so sorry to hear that...the Harmony result and the more detailed 12-week scan you will have at the FMC will give you a clearer picture of what's going on. I know 4.2mm is worrying but it's not necessarily/always bad news. All the best for Wednesday!x

Vixjane Mon 20-May-13 12:29:42

thinking of you aoife. hopefully you will get some more news/info soon and everything turns out ok. x x

Vocalista86 Mon 20-May-13 12:32:53

Sorry for being AWOL, had a few weeks of flamingo behaviour and my head did not want to come out of that sand... however had our 12 week scan today and everything is well - I feel like I can finally breathe and really enjoyed my first successfull 12 week scan. Baby was still at first but then appeared to wake up so I could see arms/legs more clearly, it was lovely.

Hope Wednesday brings good new Aoife xx

JanieLovesLuckySocks Mon 20-May-13 12:38:14

Aw Aoife sorry you got worrying news, hope Wednesday brings something better for you. Big hug xxx

Vixjane Mon 20-May-13 12:38:40

congrats on the scan vocalista!

Pentagon Mon 20-May-13 12:48:16

congratulations vocalista, great news!

GaryBuseysTeeth Mon 20-May-13 12:53:19

Aoife, sorry to hear it's worrying news...hope Wednesday brings better news.
Are you going to complain about MW? Sending all the positifrickintivy & good socks vibes I have. xx

Vocalista, congrats on your good scan, are you going to something to celebrate?
We bought a sleepsuit & baby magazine on my 12wk scan, if any of you are baby/pregnancy magazine readers, new look Mother & Baby has started to refer to mothers as 'mamas', mamafesto, mamalicious etc. hmm

Garden, 'it's twins...no wait, you have one baby, one massive pasta blockage' hope the bribery works! I look forward to DS being old enough to understand it grin

JanieLovesLuckySocks Mon 20-May-13 13:13:55

Vocal sorry I totally missed your post! Congrats in your scan smile xx

Bakingtins Mon 20-May-13 13:32:01

Aoife sorry you have had worrying news. I hope Wednesday will give you more detail and make the decision what to do next more obvious. Thinking of you.

Vocalista congratulations - glad it went well.

IBelieveInPink Mon 20-May-13 13:36:25

Oh Aoife. At least by Wednesday you should have the information you need. I hope you have plenty of support over the next few days, completely understand you being quiet, but remember we here if you need us.

Vocal - lovely news. Pleased it went well.

Garden - thinking of you too, not long to wait now....

Sorry to hear that aoife, hope your results on Wednesday bring you the results you want.
Hope your scan goes well today garden, goodluck.
Typical nhs, i still haven't had my scan appointment date posted to me yet! -hope it comes soon and hoping they don't date it after I'm actually 12 weeks so I have to wait even longer to see my little bean prawn.

DIYandEatCake Mon 20-May-13 15:04:39

Oh aoife hope Wednesday brings better news, so sorry you've got extra worries now. I remember dp and I having long talks about what we'd do if something was wrong last time, they are such difficult decisions to make and I really feel for you possibly having to make them for real. Really hope it all turns out ok.

vocalista congratulations on your good news! gary I read all the pg magazines last time round but haven't been tempted this time as I don't need to buy anything new and kind of know how babies and pregnancy work.... Wish there was one out there targeted at second/third time mums! 'Mama' makes my toes curl!

vocal great news on the scan.

aoifie sorry you have had worrying news - just echoing what everyone else has said - I hope Wednesday gives you a better idea of things. I understand you wanting to go quiet for a bit but like pink said remember we are all here if you need us xx

Zeuxippe Mon 20-May-13 16:08:47

aoife I'm so sorry to hear you've had a worrying NT result. I hope the FMC will help make everything clearer and give you the support you need. We'll all be thinking of you over the next few days x

Congrats on the scan vocalista! Really glad it went well for you.

garden hoping there is good news for you too x

GardenWorm Mon 20-May-13 16:19:56

Oh aoife sorry to hear that BUT can i just say I'm not convinced that the NHS are as well equipped as the private ones. I know it's horrific for you but Wednesday may provide different answers and will be far more comprehensive. I have everything crossed for you and we are here if you need us xxx

GardenWorm Mon 20-May-13 16:25:08

So, baby Fusili (not too way out a name?) has arms and legs and everything and disturbingly is growing at an alarming rate, in fact if it continues this way Fusili will be an immaculate conception! I'm now 13+6 so that really is pushing it. Fusili's big sister was as predicted a pain in the butt! She looks angelic though so tends to get away with it, no interest in looking at Fusili as the TV was black and white and they didn't look like Peppa Pig!

Very happy grin

Congrats to you too Vocal smile

DIYandEatCake Mon 20-May-13 16:32:53

Congratulations garden. Lol at the baby not looking like peppa pig... Was it an NHS scan and they let you take her in? Just wondering as there was a sternly worded note on my scan letter saying that small children should be kept outside the room, was worrying whether to try and leave her with a friend - could be difficult - or whether dp would have to miss the scan to look after her.

LuckySocks13 Mon 20-May-13 17:03:01

Aoife, sorry to hear your news. I hope you have lots of RL support and the FMC are able to give you some clearer answers.

Glad your scan went well Vocalista. Hope you can relax a bit now.

Wow Gary, 28 weeks smile fantastic news. It does seem a long time between appointments doesn't it! Not good for us anxious lot.

Hope your booking in went well Chocolate? I had a nasty midwife at mine!

Thanks for all your well wishes ladies. Not had any more spotting. No chance of resting as have been busy with work and can't be off again. Will get an early night though. I'm 13.2 weeks now and just feel less pregnant. Hopefully just the placenta taking over. Worry worry!

Hi to everyone else.

Yay for baby fusilli, congratulations garden smile

As for sternly notes re children at scans-I do hope I don't get one of those as I don't really have a choice between bringing dd or not having dh there. I think I'll ignore the notice if I get onegrin

Glad everything is ok luckysmile

BumpKitty Mon 20-May-13 17:15:50

aoife sorry you've had such a shock and that the mw was crap, I have no idea why some people go ino professions such as sonography and midwifery when they have the empathy of a stuffed badger.
Hope you get lots more information on Wednesday and, of course, hoping for the best possible outcome.

garden and vocalista congratulations on your scans.

pumpkin hope you get your scan through soon

diy they let children in at 12 weeks but not at 20 weeks at my hospital

GardenWorm Mon 20-May-13 17:23:54

Yep DIY it was NHS, ideally she would have gone to the childminder but she couldn't have her. They were a miserable pair, didn't even crack a smile at our rendition of the Okey Kokey! DH wasn't impressed with them really, spoilt by the private scan I suppose! Clearly we were not in Bods capable hands smile

BlackholesAndRevelations Mon 20-May-13 17:47:49

Oh Aoife... thinking of you. So sorry xxx

garden glad the scan went well - fab news x

IBelieveInPink Mon 20-May-13 18:11:50

Garden - so pleased it went well. And I would have smiled at your rendition of okey kokey smile

BlackholesAndRevelations Mon 20-May-13 18:21:32

Yes congrats vocal and garden, too.

I feel horrible today, despite the fybogel I still can't go! Argh sad

DIYandEatCake Mon 20-May-13 21:43:15

bump I love that phrase, 'the empathy of a stuffed badger'! That so describes my health visitor, I'm never going to be able to look at her again without smirking.

Hope everyone's ok. Been feeling all thoughtful today after hearing about aoife's scan, and thinking about how I'll feel if there are any problems at our scan. Anyone else been doing some thinking too? aoife if you're reading, thinking of you x

I am slightly embarrassed to admit that I've eaten two dinners tonight - one that was a nice balanced meal for dp and dd that I struggled to eat, and just now buckled to my craving for quiche and baked beans. Ah well at least I might start to look pregnant soon!

BumpKitty Mon 20-May-13 22:16:49

diy the baby obviously needed some fibre (and quiche!).

I don't want to say anything that will offend, and I know none of us know what we would really do unless we were in the situation, but if I found out there was something seriously wrong I think I would seriously think about termination.
I did not feel this way with my first DC and hence didn't have any of the tests but I know now how much work a healthy child is and (more importantly) I have to consider how having a child with a serious disability would affect my DD's life now and possibly for a long time in to the future.
As I say - sorry if this upsets anyone, it actually feels very odd to be 'admitting' to it.

ChocolateCremeEggBag Mon 20-May-13 22:23:12

Hope you are ok Aoife and that you get better news on Wednesday. Hope you have stuff to occupy/distract you til then.

Managed a record 40min booking in today! MW was the lovely sensible and organised one out of the 3 it could have been. Rattled throigh everything super quickly for once. Was so relieved as work is manic at the moment as trying to sort things before we go on holiday on Saturday (driving to in laws near Bordeaux - I must be mad)

ChocolateCremeEggBag Mon 20-May-13 22:24:35

Sorry meant to add great news on your scans Garden & Vocal

DH is making me watch MIC - so bad it's good grin

jmf294 Mon 20-May-13 22:29:19

Aoife- I'm so sorry about your result and the worry its causing you.
I really hope it is a false measurement and everything will be ok on Wednesday. You will be in good hands back at the FMC and you can trust their opinion. Sorry your midwife was useless- very poor!
I'll keep you in my thoughts and hope your DH is looking after you.

shellsocks Mon 20-May-13 23:34:00

aoife sorry to read your news, totally understand needing time away...hope that when you come back its with good news, will be thinking of you x

Great to hear your news vocal and garden smile

diy DS came to my 12w scan and the sonographer just said prob best not to bring him to 20w as its more detailed so will take longer and he'll get fed up.

lucky my sickness and headaches are clearing up so I'm starting to feel pretty normal again (14+6) if it wasnt for the bump and doppler I'd be panicking more too...I think it's par for the course in the second trimester, not gonna stop you worrying I know!

bump I'm not offended...it's a totally personal choice that no one else can judge on the decision made.

choc what's MIC?!

IBelieveInPink Tue 21-May-13 00:26:24

Shell- I have been playing with the dopplar again tonight!
My friend who is only a bit ahead of me is already feeling wriggles- I'm jealous. So I got the dopplar out and found a really loud hb straight away. In a happy little bubble again now and too excited to sleep - will be regretting this tomorrow! smile

andadietcoke Tue 21-May-13 07:17:10

I'm off to see the mw this morning, aimed with a list of questions. Because my mw effectively discharged me to hospital care at 16w I now have all my appts at the hospital but this appt slipped through the net and I had to ring and ask if I was due one.

Am also a bit worried that the nice guidelines state that I should have had bloods taken between 20 and 24w and that I should have a scan at 24w, and have had neither (next scan is 28w). Hmmm. Turns out my haemoglobin was also really high at booking in, but I was put on iron without checking the results. Not sure what to do. I hate complaining...

BlackholesAndRevelations Tue 21-May-13 07:38:01

Anda- you won't be complaining, just asking for clarification. Sounds like you need it! Hope you get your answers. I'm very much a question asker.

IBelieveInPink Tue 21-May-13 07:39:34

Diet - wow that doesn't sound great. I'm with black holes - not complaining at all! How did you find out what you are supposed to have had?? I wouldn't even know if they had missed something!

andadietcoke Tue 21-May-13 07:46:31

Thanks. I work in medical publishing and we work with NICE guidelines frequently, so dug out the multiple pregnancy guidelines when I thought it was odd I didn't have any appointments between 20 and 28 weeks.

I asked about a 24w scan at 20w and they said no, just 28w, but that was before I came across the NICE recommendations. I'm going to end up having another private scan, aren't I? hmm

WillSantaComeAgain Tue 21-May-13 09:21:35

bump - I'm probably with you on that as well. I have a cousin with a serious disability and I've seen how much its affected her brother. All the "normal" family things that his mates do he can't, and all their holidays/family outings etc are set up around his sister. (I'm sure he and his parents don't see it like that, but you can't help but wonder at the impact on him). [Sorry, I really don't mean to offend anyone with these comments - its hard to explain what I mean].

So, this morning I don't feel sick. So I feel sick (with nerves) instead. Argh, can't cope. I hate the nausea/tiredness/bloating with a passion but as soon as it goes, I long for it back again to reassure me that all is Ok. Booking in appt on Thursday, and as sod would have it, with MMC1, my symptoms disappeared in the week of the appt as well. Looks like I could be off for a private scan by Friday if the symptoms don't reappear.

Vixjane Tue 21-May-13 10:23:17

hope you get the answers anda stick to your guns!

santa i panic everytime my symptoms change but they do come and go

ibip i suggested to DH about getting a doppler but he outright said no! i can understand why as he knows i'll get obsessed!

3.5 hours until the scan (wish i could have had a morning appt - getting nothing done at work!)

IBelieveInPink Tue 21-May-13 10:36:06

Ooh good luck vix! I knew someone had something today but I couldn't remember what - baby brain!!
I am being good and limiting myself to once a week with doppler- and actually using it less than that. It is just a nice reassurance tactic until I can feel wriggles!

Good luck vix!
And no Anda it isn't complaining, it's about seeking what you are entitled to!
Not having a scan at 20wks is awfully odd, important things could be picked up at 20wks. And no appointment until 28 weeks is an awfully long time to go without antenatal care.
Here we have a 12wk & 20wk scan and see mw every month until the last trimesters where we are seen every 2 weeks. I have to have a 3rd scan at 28wks due to my bmi aswell.

Bakingtins Tue 21-May-13 11:42:58

Good luck Vix!

Pentagon Tue 21-May-13 11:51:55

Garden congratulations on your scan! I would take the measurements with a pinch of salt, when I had my 12-week scan at the FMC they measured the baby at 12w 6d (should have been 12w 5d by my LMP) and then the following morning when I had my scan at the NHS they measured the baby at 13w 2d...(also NT measurement at the FMC was 1.6mm while at the NHS 2mm) I'm going with the FMC dates for now as their scanning machines were more advanced and presumably more accurate.

Vix all the best for today!

Aoife thinking of you and hope you come back to us with some good news tomorrow.

hi to everyone else!

LuckySocks13 Tue 21-May-13 12:45:47

Best wishes for your scan Vix.

Well I've had a bit of a stressful morning! Had some brown discharge this morning and after some on Saturday too and being RH- blood typeI called the Early Pregnancy Unit. I was then called into our not so local hospital to the Gyne ward. That was a bit traumatic as I was there with my last miscarriage. Anyway I had a scan and thankfully all seems ok. Also had a nasty miscarriage dream last night which was really unsettling. I should really go into work now but am a bit of a wreck! May just put my feet up and check my emails at home.
Not sure I'm going to relax at all this pregnancy!

IBelieveInPink Tue 21-May-13 13:02:12

Oh lucky, sorry that sounds shit. Scan is good though
Honestly you would think after all we have already been through it would be nice if we could have an easy time of it this time! Not fair! Glad all is well, try and keep remembering that!!

Pentagon Tue 21-May-13 13:04:55

Sorry to hear you've had a stressful morning Lucky (and such a horrible dream last night) but so glad you had another scan and everything is great - yay!! Well, there's always something to worry about in pregnancy - as a friend of mine says " if it's not one thing, it's another"

BumpKitty Tue 21-May-13 13:11:35

lucky so pleased all is ok

anda hope you got some answers

I'm in maternity trousers at work! I think I just look like a heifer though rather than pg! I weighed myself this morning, it's not good. I have put on over a stone already. Must stop eating crap.

Good luck vix smile

BrieMonster Tue 21-May-13 13:36:26

Hi all, have tracked you down again thread after thread. What a chatty crowd! am over the moon to see bakingtins back, so so pleased.
Not got much to add, have been too busy with a hyper toddler to really notice this pregnancy at all, a blessing of course for which I am grateful if not a little guilty.
I've had Brie twice, little confession there. Gulp.

Bakingtins Tue 21-May-13 16:28:38

Hi Brie nice to see you too. Just hoping I am not unceremoniously leaving again after Thursday. I feel a bit sick thinking about it.
Quick question about cheese - we have a student lodging with us for 6 weeks who turns out to be veggie. Have dutifully bought a veggie cookbook but an awful lot of the recipes include goat's cheese. It's ok if you are cooking it, right?

Bakingtins Tue 21-May-13 16:30:17

Lucky glad everything is ok. Hope you can finally start to relax now.

LuckySocks13 Tue 21-May-13 16:31:29

Thank you everyone. Feeling a bit drained and emotional bit happier , well for now anyway! Please don't talk about Brie! I love it!

Vixjane Tue 21-May-13 17:29:58

Thanks ladies. Went for the scan and in and out in half an hour! Looks like bub is doing fine - it was wriggling round and waving its arms and legs in the air. Even turned its back on us at one point! They've put me forward by 6 days so officially 13w 2d and due 24 nov!

lucky glad you had a good scan and hopefully put your mind at rest. Probably time to put your feet up with a brew.

DIYandEatCake Tue 21-May-13 17:58:57

Congratulations vix! Going clothes shopping now? smile
lucky sorry you had a stressful morning but so glad all is ok. Sounds like you need to take it easy a bit and look after yourself.
santa hope you get some symptoms back soon to reassure you.
Nothing new here, another migraine starting (boooo!) still feeling sick (yay!) and grumpy at dp for expecting me to cook 2 separate dinners as he doesn't fancy what I'm craving (quiche and beans again...!). When will the man learn to cook?!

IBelieveInPink Tue 21-May-13 18:53:46

Nightmare DIY! You need some help with these migraines!!

Yay vix!!!

So, confessions. Who has bought stuff for baby? I haven't been brave enough yet!!

BlackholesAndRevelations Tue 21-May-13 19:01:27

Great news vix! And glad all is ok now, lucky.

I'm just so tired and feeling sick after eating a whole pizza!! Should gave stopped halfway through and now feeling so guilty for feeding crap to the baby! Argh.

Take care all x

Bakingtins Tue 21-May-13 19:04:45

smile Vix!

DIY the migraines sound awful. Is there nothing safe the GP can give you?

Hi ladies

lucky sorry you have had a stressful morning lovely - glad the scan showed everything was okay - take some time to relax (I know it's hard though with work etc)

vix glad the scan went well and fab about bringing your forward due date forward!!

DIY so sorry you have another migraine Hun - I really sympathise with you. Have you been able to speak to the drs?

santa sorry you are feeling worried about your symptoms Hun.

I am seriously panicking about the lack of symptoms - I have sore boobs at night (when I take my bra off - feels like I am "releasing" them!!), bit of tiredness and a strong sense of smell but NOTHING else - no sickness at all - however I only had a bit of nausea with DS so logically I shouldn't be worried - but I am starting to learn that logic goes out of the window in pregnancy!!

Scan on Friday morning - petrified doesn't cover it!! Xx

BumpKitty Tue 21-May-13 20:22:40

that's brilliant vix and ace that you got to jump forward nearly a whole week! it's like time travel grin

ibip i'm waiting to see what I'm having (well secretly just waiting for Thursday to hopefully hear a heartbeat, then I'll be waiting for 20 week scan). I have most big stuff though from DD, we will have to turf her out of the cot bed and transform it back in to a cot. I also want her to change rooms - this isn't going to go well is it!
ps - I think you are super restrained to only dopple once a week smile

mummy you sound pretty symptomy to me!

santa i hope you feel sick again soon but you already know this pg is completely different to the last two as you've seen a heartbeat! Maybe this one is just a less nauseous pg. I got really car sick today - bloody awful, it lasted a good hour after I got out of the car.

hi brie how many weeks are you now?

BumpKitty Tue 21-May-13 20:23:05

oh and good luck for the scan mummy

DIYandEatCake Tue 21-May-13 20:53:08

mummy I had hardly any symptoms til about 7 weeks and stressed about it too. I have plenty now! I know it's hard and time goes slowly but try to have faith for the moment, not long til Friday.

pink I didn't buy anything til after 20 weeks last time, and probably won't this time. Doesn't stop me looking at cute little sleepsuits though...

I keep dithering about whether to see the gp, I'm so reluctant to take any drugs with any risk, would probably be wasting their time. It helps knowing that they improved from about 14 weeks with dd and were completely gone by 17, so hopefully only a few more weeks til things improve (nearly 11 weeks now!) Going to get an early night in a mo.

All the very best of luck tomorrow aoife if you're there.

ChocolateCremeEggBag Tue 21-May-13 20:57:55

tins - cooked cheese is fine as you will have killed off the listeria bug.
I asked the MW about this on Monday as I had Stilton and broccoli soup on Sunday

Means that baked camembert and toasted sandwiches with brie are back in!
You can also find pasteurised versions of a lot of cheeses now anyway.

Thanks bump and diy - I'm hoping after the scan we feel a bit more reassured. Thanks again - you are all so lovely :-) x

JanieLovesLuckySocks Tue 21-May-13 22:20:45

Oh lucky you poor thing, what a worry, but you must try to remember that the scan showed a happy wee baby in there smile what a stress though, hope your work are being sympathetic x

Congrats on the scan and time travel vix!! We're just a couple of days apart!

Mummy don't panic, I only had a bit of tiredness and slight dizziness now and then, no sickness at all.

Aoife hope tmro goes ok for you, sending you all the best vibes possible

DIY you poor poor thing, I can't begin to imagine how awful the migraines are got you. The ho may be able to offer something magic so worth a go.

I risked the gym last night for the first time since BFP, I used to do spin and body combat but decided just to go on the exercise bike and walk up a hill in the treadmill. Bloody hell 3 months of certainly shows shock. Trying to break myself in slowly and not overdoing it by any means but I've got a consultation with the trainer next week to show me what things i can or can't do. I've put on about 9lbs and really feeling it, I was a 14/16 before pg and had lost 2 stone last year and I really don't want to put in excess so I'm hoping I can keep it at bay as much as possible. I've swapped my extra mature cheddar pregnancy addiction to light babybels. I think I might have to call my baby 'baby belle' at this rate.

I haven't bought anything yet but my mums friend has offered to give me everything she has (she has a 9month old and 2 older kids and said this was the last one) so I've told my mum to take it all and what I don't want or what I would prefer new, they can keep in their house for sleepovers!

GardenWorm Wed 22-May-13 06:04:09

Thinking of you today Aoife

Congrats Vix great news!

So I told a few people in work yesterday including mgt....just waiting for the rumour mill to tell the other 800, I reckon most of them will know by now! Lol!

jmf294 Wed 22-May-13 06:54:37

Aoife- keeping you in my thoughts today.
Hoping so much for good news for you and your worries all reassured.

IBelieveInPink Wed 22-May-13 07:23:53

Aoife- hope you get the best of news today. Will be thinking about you.

How is everyone? Does anyone have anything exciting going on today? I do! My best friend is having her baby today. Yay newborn baby cuddles! smile

Bakingtins Wed 22-May-13 07:44:36

Aoife thinking of you today. Hope you get more positive news.

Quiet chuckle to myself at " baby Belle".

BumpKitty Wed 22-May-13 08:05:31

aoife hope it all goes well today and you get the answers you want, we're all thinking of you xxx

ibip it's my birthday! Had a lovely rendition of happy birthday from DD which ended in ' can I play Lego now?' but there the fun ends as now I'm off to work. Your friend's baby has a lovely birthday, it's usually very nice weather. Enjoy the baby snuggles x

Vixjane Wed 22-May-13 08:42:23

thanks all. don't think i'm gonna buy anything yet diy, i'm still in my normal clothes apart from jeans and we're trying to hold off till after 20 wks to buy baby stuff. just saving up at the moment. Hope you're feeling better today!

Good luck mummy and aoife today. Hope you both get good news (and anyone else with appts/scans today!)

enjoy the cuddles ibip

Happy birthday bump!

We've started to tell people now as well, kind of a relief to be able to say something!

IBelieveInPink Wed 22-May-13 08:47:18

Happy birthday bump! Have a fabulous day (try and enjoy it while at work!) and hope you get spoilt later smile

Vixjane Wed 22-May-13 08:48:30

i've also updated the stats list with new date

GaryBuseysTeeth: 1DS, 1MC, EDD 10th Aug
Pentagon: 1 DD, 2MMCs, EDD 31st October, next scan 14th June
BumpKitty: 1MC, 1DD, EDD 12 Nov, next scan 29th April
Shellshock7: 2MC 1DS EDD 12 Nov Next scan 28 June
Bodicea: 0DC, 2MC, EDD 16 Nov. Next scan 25th April
Ibelieveinpink: 2mc, EDD 17 Nov next scan 7th May
Lucky13: 1DS, 1 chemical, 2MC, EDD 23rd Nov, scan 11th May
Vixjane: 2 MC, EDD 24 Nov, next scan 9th July
Janielovescake: 1MC, 0DC, EDD 25 Nov, next scan 11th May
Vocalista86: 1 MMC, EDD 30 November. next scan (12 weeks) 20th May
Aoifebelle: 1MC, EDD 1st Dec, next scan 20th May (NHS 12 weeks)
Jmf294: 1 DS, 1DD, 1 MC, EDD 10th Dec, scan 3rd May
Zeux 1DD 1MC EDD 14th December, first scan 24th May
DIYandEatCake: 1dd, 1mc, EDD ?16 dec, waiting for scan date
Booty: 1chemical EDD 19 Dec (Xmas baby!) next scan 25th April
pumpkinsweetie: EDD 26 Dec
WillSantaComeAgain: 1DC, 2MMC, EDD 30 Dec, 6 wk scan OK. Next scan ?w/c 17 June
Bakingtins: 2 DSs, 3 MC, EDD 6th Jan, scan 23rd April
Mummytothearkbuilder: 1DS, 1 MC, EDD tbc (Jan 2014), scan 24th May

IBelieveInPink Wed 22-May-13 08:56:40

Just realised my stats were a little out of date. Here's the new ones;

GaryBuseysTeeth: 1DS, 1MC, EDD 10th Aug
Pentagon: 1 DD, 2MMCs, EDD 31st October, next scan 14th June
BumpKitty: 1MC, 1DD, EDD 12 Nov, next scan 29th April
Shellshock7: 2MC 1DS EDD 12 Nov Next scan 28 June
Bodicea: 0DC, 2MC, EDD 16 Nov. Next scan 25th April
Ibelieveinpink: 2mc, EDD 16 Nov next scan 21 June
Lucky13: 1DS, 1 chemical, 2MC, EDD 23rd Nov, scan 11th May
Vixjane: 2 MC, EDD 24 Nov, next scan 9th July
Janielovescake: 1MC, 0DC, EDD 25 Nov, next scan 11th May
Vocalista86: 1 MMC, EDD 30 November. next scan (12 weeks) 20th May
Aoifebelle: 1MC, EDD 1st Dec, next scan 20th May (NHS 12 weeks)
Jmf294: 1 DS, 1DD, 1 MC, EDD 10th Dec, scan 3rd May
Zeux 1DD 1MC EDD 14th December, first scan 24th May
DIYandEatCake: 1dd, 1mc, EDD ?16 dec, waiting for scan date
Booty: 1chemical EDD 19 Dec (Xmas baby!) next scan 25th April
pumpkinsweetie: EDD 26 Dec
WillSantaComeAgain: 1DC, 2MMC, EDD 30 Dec, 6 wk scan OK. Next scan ?w/c 17 June
Bakingtins: 2 DSs, 3 MC, EDD 6th Jan, scan 23rd April
Mummytothearkbuilder: 1DS, 1 MC, EDD tbc (Jan 2014), scan 24th May

Aoifebelle Wed 22-May-13 09:13:17

Hello ladies I have been quietly lurking. Was going to continue doing so but wanted to respond to all your lovely messages.

Managing to stay positive here, actually feel weirdly calm. We really can dig into hidden reserves of strength when needed.

Have spent the morning looking at the profs publications. He really is the dude it comes to this stuff, he practically invented the nuchal test. I can understand why he has all the rich ladies swooning at him. maybe I can get a discount if I tell him I work for charidee.

Congrats to all who had good scan news, hopefully I will just be a bit late to the party.

I will post again when I have more info. Xx

shellsocks Wed 22-May-13 09:45:34

Good luck aoife am thinking of you x

JanieLovesLuckySocks Wed 22-May-13 09:49:17

aw hi Aoife, thinking of you today and hoping this george clooney of the gynae world doctor gives you some super good news.

happy birthday bump! hope you're having a wee non alco erdinger to celebrate tonight (or maybe a half glass of red)

ibip i'm very jealous of upcoming baby cuddles! i'm still trying to get over this cold before i go for baby squeezes with my friend's new little bambino smile

vix and garden it defo starts feeling more real when people know your secret! since telling work last week i've had a bit of a positive pep in my step which feels good. tweaking like mad down there today though, hope my bath last night wasn't too hot, DH got in after though and said it was freezing so hopefully i'm being silly.

stats update from me too...

GaryBuseysTeeth: 1DS, 1MC, EDD 10th Aug
Pentagon: 1 DD, 2MMCs, EDD 31st October, next scan 14th June
BumpKitty: 1MC, 1DD, EDD 12 Nov, next scan 29th April
Shellshock7: 2MC 1DS EDD 12 Nov Next scan 28 June
Bodicea: 0DC, 2MC, EDD 16 Nov. Next scan 25th April
Ibelieveinpink: 2mc, EDD 16 Nov next scan 21 June
Janielovesluckysocks: 1MC, 0DC, EDD 22 Nov, next scan 31st May
Lucky13: 1DS, 1 chemical, 2MC, EDD 23rd Nov, scan 11th May
Vixjane: 2 MC, EDD 24 Nov, next scan 9th July
Vocalista86: 1 MMC, EDD 30 November. next scan (12 weeks) 20th May
Aoifebelle: 1MC, EDD 1st Dec, next scan 20th May (NHS 12 weeks)
Jmf294: 1 DS, 1DD, 1 MC, EDD 10th Dec, scan 3rd May
Zeux 1DD 1MC EDD 14th December, first scan 24th May
DIYandEatCake: 1dd, 1mc, EDD ?16 dec, waiting for scan date
Booty: 1chemical EDD 19 Dec (Xmas baby!) next scan 25th April
pumpkinsweetie: EDD 26 Dec
WillSantaComeAgain: 1DC, 2MMC, EDD 30 Dec, 6 wk scan OK. Next scan ?w/c 17 June
Bakingtins: 2 DSs, 3 MC, EDD 6th Jan, scan 23rd April
Mummytothearkbuilder: 1DS, 1 MC, EDD tbc (Jan 2014), scan 24th May

Goodluck aoife thinking of you today, goodluck x

Pentagon Wed 22-May-13 10:44:53

Vix congratulations on your scan! Fab news!

Bump happy birthday, I hope you have a lovely day!

Aoife so nice to hear from you! Glad you're feeling positive! Are you seeing Professor Nicolaides? I've read that he's there on Wednesdays so hopefully your appointment will be with him but even if it's not I think he normally pops in to advise. I have everything crossed for you, good luck!

DIY it looks like you only have a couple of weeks' left of pregnancy-related migraines so hang on in there!

Not much to report here, work is hectic at the moment and driving me crazy! I've worn a maternity bra for the first time today as I've noticed that my normal bras started digging in recently. Not even looking at baby things for now, will do after my 20-week scan if everything goes well (brrr, not even thinking about it at the moment)

jmf294 Wed 22-May-13 11:54:15

Aoife- you are in the best hands possible and I hope that gives you some reassurance and confidence. Still thinking of you.

Happy birthday bump!! Hope you have a lovely day- double excuse to eat lots of cake.

I'm still feeling sick- thought I would vomit in the car this morning- not good!! 12 weeks tomorrow but still have the hurdle of next weeks results to overcome first. I haven't told anyone my secret yet- well except DH.

WillSantaComeAgain Wed 22-May-13 13:10:00

Right, a second day of not feeling sick and I'm even more nervous. I know every pg is different, but my experiences so far of successful and non-successful pregnancies don't give me much hope to cling on to. I've got my booking appt tomorrow so I will see if I can get an early scan, though as I've already had one, I doubt they'll let me have another. Otherwise I will see how it goes over the weekend, and if my symptoms get less, then I'll book myself in for a private scan next week.

Oh why, why, why does it have to be this hard???? I'm really busy at work and yet all I can think about it is "I wonder if i have a dead baby in my uterus". (Apologies, I know that's not a nice thought). Where's my posifrickitivity????

BumpKitty Wed 22-May-13 13:23:09

santa now come on, you need a good fish slap. I hope they will give you another scan so you can be reassured but symptoms change all the time and are not a good indication. Hope you get a lovely mw.

* ibip* we are scan buddies! What time is yours? I'm at 12.10pm. We can count down together smile

Bakingtins Wed 22-May-13 13:28:38

It's rubbish, Santa sad It's very hard to stay positive when you've had previous bad experiences. I have my scan tomorrow and am convinced there is no HB in there. Have already got it planned out that I'll carry on with the progesterone for our short trip to London over the bank holiday w/end then allow nature to take it's course as I'm off the rest of half term. Completely lost all posifrickingtivity - did anyone see where it went?
Hope you feel reassuringly sick for the next few days. If it helps, I've never really felt sick in any of my pregnancies, successful ones no different to the MCs.

Vixjane Wed 22-May-13 15:18:21

I think we've all had days of symtpoms lessening throughout pg if you look back at posts etc and if there's no cramping or spotting it's probably just an eaiser couple of days for you santa.

fingers crossed for your scan tomorrow baking we can share the posifrickingtivity around don't worry!

Job interview is over and done with and now playing the waiting game...supposed to be working (from home) but not actually getting anything done! shock

Aoifebelle Wed 22-May-13 15:26:53

Hey ladies I think it may be goodbye from me. Results of scan were about as bad as could be, chances of this being a healthy pregnancy looking very slim. We are heartbroken.

I am sending you the last vestiges of my posifrickintivity. Please think of this as me taking one for the team so now go forth and have lovely healthy babies. Once I am a bit more healed I might lurk in from time to time.good luck to you all xx

andadietcoke Wed 22-May-13 15:39:42

Oh Aoife, I'm so very sorry it wasn't good news. Hang on to some posifrickintivity for yourself for the next few days and after; please take very good care of each other and yourselves.

Lots of love, posifrickintivity and girly hugs, Hannah xx

Vixjane Wed 22-May-13 15:40:12

aoife i'm so so sorry. hope you have lots of support in RL and that you know you're in everyone's thoughts here xxx

GardenWorm Wed 22-May-13 15:59:10

Aoife that's heartbreaking, are there more tests or is that a definitive answer? Whatever you decide we are here thinking of you. I totally understand this may not be where you want to be though. I and everyone else will be thinking of you and if you need us you know where we are. Big hugs, I hope you are getting lots of support in RL xxx

shellsocks Wed 22-May-13 16:00:24

aoife I'm so sorry, if there is anything I (and I'm sure I speak for us all) can do to support you please let me know....I hope things go as smoothly as possible from here and good luck for the future whatever you decide xxx

Bakingtins Wed 22-May-13 16:06:35

Oh Aoife I'm so sorry. None of "the team" want anything to go wrong for any of us. I hope you are being well supported and looked after.

jmf294 Wed 22-May-13 16:16:32

Aoife- I'm so very sorry to hear you sad news.
You had been in my thoughts all day and I was so hoping for better news for you.
I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers and pray that you are blessed with the strength to face the journey ahead of you.
Take things gently, be kind to yourself and ensure you get the support from whatever source you need.

I'm so very sorry for your sad news aoifesad. Sending my love to you thanks

Zeuxippe Wed 22-May-13 17:08:12

I'm so sorry aoife. It's so very sad.

Thinking of you and sending you our love x

LuckySocks13 Wed 22-May-13 17:28:36

oh Aoife, I'm so very very sorry to hear your news. How heart breaking. Sending you love and strength at this difficult time flowers Hoping that there maybe more tests that can be done?

Pentagon Wed 22-May-13 17:28:55

oh aoife I'm so sorry (and upset) to hear your news :-( your post brought tears to my eyes, life is so unfair sometimes... Good luck with the next steps and I am sure you will have a lovely, healthy baby soon! Lots of love & hugs. xx

DIYandEatCake Wed 22-May-13 17:36:06

Oh crap aoife, was so so hoping you'd have better news. Wishing you strength and courage and the very very best of luck for the future, whatever the outcome of this pregnancy. As baking says none of us wants this to happen to any of us, it's so unbelievably cruel. Thinking of you x

IBelieveInPink Wed 22-May-13 17:36:20

Aoife, words can't sum it up. I'm so sorry. Look after yourselves. Xxx

Bootyluscious Wed 22-May-13 17:38:53

I'm so sorry to read your sad news Aoife

Take care & stay strong xxx

GaryBuseysTeeth Wed 22-May-13 18:31:04

Aoife, I am so sorry to hear your news...thanks for taking the time to update us.
Sending you lots of hugs & strength to get through this, desperately holding onto the slim chance for you, and like shell said, if there is anything we can do for you. x flowers

Happy Birthday Bump! Hope you're having a lovely day!

Vix, Garden, exciting to hear you've started telling people!

Bakings, sending you lots of posifickingtivity for tomorrow.

BlackholesAndRevelations Wed 22-May-13 19:10:46

So sorry Aoife. Really unfair and sad news. as others have said, hopefully there's a chance it will all be ok....? Just trying to hold onto a glimmer.... All the support and strength I can possibly muster for you. You poor poor things xxxxx

aoifie so so sorry to hear your news Hun - I hope you have lots of RL support. Thinking of you and sending lots of love xxxxx

DIYandEatCake Wed 22-May-13 20:13:21

baking all the best for tomorrow, really hope it's good news, sending lots of posifrickintivity your way. Have you got lucky socks at the ready? Will be keeping everything crossed for you.

BumpKitty Wed 22-May-13 20:14:52

oh jesus aoife i'm so sorry for you both, I hope you get the best possible care and support for as long as you need it. We are all still here for you anytime. xxx

JanieLovesLuckySocks Wed 22-May-13 20:34:52

oh aoife i'm so terribly sorry. the world is such a cruel place sometimes. sending you all the love in the world flowers xxx

LuckySocks13 Wed 22-May-13 21:41:11

Ahh DS has the Chicken Pox! Cant remember who's DS had it on here?

jmf294 Wed 22-May-13 22:01:09

Lucky- have you had chicken pox?
Even if you have you need your immunity checked. Your midwife will try to fob you off but I'd go and see your GP and ask for a blood test as there is treatment you can have if not immune.

LuckySocks13 Wed 22-May-13 22:11:42

Thanks jmf for asking smile I phoned the hospital midwives last week and asked them to check. They tested my blood sample and thankfully I am. I panicked as going round DS nursery. Such bad timing as meant to be flying to menorca next Friday for a very much needed break!

JanieLovesLuckySocks Wed 22-May-13 22:13:13

ah lucky, the poor wee thing. better this week than next though. i hope he is feeling better in time for your holiday x

Pentagon Wed 22-May-13 23:14:26

baking good luck tomorrow!

santa in the first trimester, there 2-3 days in a row every week when I didn't feel sick at all. It especially freaked me out when I was 7-8 weeks because that's when I had my missed miscarriage last summer. I feared the worst but thankfully all was well at my scan 2 weeks later.

lucky sorry to hear about DS and chickenpox, good thing you're immune - hopefully, flying to Menorca next week won't be an issue.

Good night everyone!

baking good luck with your scan xx

Goodluck for today baking x

IBelieveInPink Thu 23-May-13 07:31:25

Good luck baking will be thinking of you. What time is your scan?

GaryBuseysTeeth Thu 23-May-13 07:39:46

Good luck baking!

lucky, sorry to hear about the pox, hope he's not too ratty with it...and you can get away on holiday.

andadietcoke Thu 23-May-13 07:57:25

Good luck baking, thinking of you xx

Bakingtins Thu 23-May-13 08:02:41

Thanks everyone. I feel sick. Scan at 10am.

jmf294 Thu 23-May-13 08:11:59

Good luck baking!! Hope it goes well.

shellsocks Thu 23-May-13 08:25:26

Good luck baking got everything crossed for you x

GardenWorm Thu 23-May-13 08:51:28

Happ Scan Day Baking sending you loads of POSIFRICKINTIVITY and hoping your DH is being supportive x

The shit has hit the fan at my work due to yesterday's terror attack (yes i am a spy!) so I may be a bit quiet, sorry now if I miss anyone's scans/big moments but I will be thinking of you all x

JanieLovesLuckySocks Thu 23-May-13 09:37:40

good luck today baking, may the socks be with you xx

garden crikey it's frighteneing. thinking of you too x

WillSantaComeAgain Thu 23-May-13 11:01:44

Good luck baking (though you're probably out by now so keeping fingers crossed that all is well).

Thinking of you aoife and praying that you have the strength to get through what I can imagine will be a very difficult few weeks.

So today I booked a private scan for tomorrow, then had a panic that if it was bad news, I wouldn't be able to cope as we have a house full of guests all weekend. So I cancelled the scan, and will be re-booking again for next week. Good news though is that I've now found a reassurance scan for £70 smile [tight wad emoticon]

Thank you for the kind words - I'm still terrified, but feeling a little bit more posifricitive today.

andadietcoke Thu 23-May-13 11:10:02

Santa bless you. See how you feel after the weekend. There's no harm in booking, and cancelling, and booking and cancelling. I'm trying very hard not to book another scan too.

It's so hard in early pregnancy knowing that everything's okay. Maybe you're just one of the lucky ones who doesn't have any symptoms!! One of my friends didn't even feel pregnant until about 8 months! I remember feeling desperate for morning sickness, when it hit I couldn't believe how ridiculous that was. Then I worried again when it went.

How many weeks are you now?

Vixjane Thu 23-May-13 11:32:22

sorry to hear about the pox lucky but good that you're immune!

santa hopefully the scan will give you something to focus on and help you relax when you know everything is ok. my ms came and went. I had a few days of running to the loo and retching and then nothing for a few days.

fingers crossed for your scan baking

still not heard anything about the job, don't think i got it but nevermind!

Told my boss this morning so it's official at work now. Also worked out i only have 4 months of full time work left as i'm going to use annual leave in October to work part time until mat leave.

IBelieveInPink Thu 23-May-13 11:38:30

Santa - if a scan helps, just do it. It's so worth it for how much better you would feel.
If it is of any relevance, I had hardly any symptoms at all. No sickness. A teeny bit of nausea on some days. Bit tired. Didn't even have to get up in the night to pee. Turns out I just one of the 'lucky' ones.
However now, I get massive bloating every single day. Thought my tummy was going to pop yesterday. Your symptoms will come, it just may not be the ones you are expecting smile

Bakingtins Thu 23-May-13 12:15:55

I'm sorry ladies. I have started, and jinxed, another thread.
No heartbeat, fetus too small for dates. I have to have another scan in a week but there is no doubt this is miscarriage no 4 on the way sad.
I don't know if we can bear to try again.

WillSantaComeAgain Thu 23-May-13 12:16:06

Worried about poor baking sad - no news hopefully means good news.

Its a very peculiar thing, this mn malarkey, isn't it? Here we all are, a bunch of total strangers who probably come from such diverse walks of life that we'd never cross paths in RL, and yet, thanks to all of us having a shared shitty past, we all care so deeply about each other that we worry about each other as much as we do about our RL friends.

So thank you for all your kind words - they really do help keep me on the in-the-community side of sane grin. My symptoms were there but have now all but disappeared, which i know is totally normal for some, but I'm going to go for the scan next week to put my mind at rest.

WillSantaComeAgain Thu 23-May-13 12:17:46

Oh no, baking - cross posts. How awful, you poor poor thing. Praying for you my lovely.

andadietcoke Thu 23-May-13 12:24:05

Oh baking I'm so so sorry. My thoughts are with you, even though I know how little consolation that will be. As ever, we're all here, hoping for the very best for you, and for if you need anything at all. Take care of yourself my lovely xx

JanieLovesLuckySocks Thu 23-May-13 12:24:54

oh baking i'm so terribly sorry. this is so unfair for you. flowers i'm so so sorry xx

santa you're so right, i consider you all my buddies, i was telling DH last night about my friend aoife's terrible time as if she was a close friend, but you guys are my friends, you've all been there for me through thick and thin and if it wasn't for you all, i would have been feeling so lonely and lost through the whole journey. you guys xxxxx

shellsocks Thu 23-May-13 12:31:12

Oh baking no no no I'm so pissed off and upset for you, it's so unfair. Look after yourself and please come to us for support if we can help at all xxx

So sorry to hear your sad news baking, thinking of you xx

Zeuxippe Thu 23-May-13 12:34:09

I'm so sorry baking it's so unfair. Thinking of you and sending you love x

Ladies I fear I may also be leaving you soon. I was bleeding when I woke up this morning and have had some cramping too. Have an emergency NHS scan booked for this afternoon at 3.15 but I'm not hopeful. Feels exactly like when I mc''d last time. Will let you know what happens.

IBelieveInPink Thu 23-May-13 12:36:58

Oh baking. I'm so so sorry. Again, I don't know what to say. It's so shit, I'm sorry. Xx

Yes ladies, I also talk about you as my friends. My DH even now asks me how my 'Internet friends' are getting on. Which is why it makes it so much sadder to hear that any of you are going through pain. sad

JanieLovesLuckySocks Thu 23-May-13 12:38:01

oh zeux you poor thing, i've got everything crossed for you. sending you a hug xxx

IBelieveInPink Thu 23-May-13 12:38:29

Oh zeux! No! Everything crossed that it isn't what you think.
This is the worst week ever sad

Oh zeux hope it isn't what you think. Fx for you xx

andadietcoke Thu 23-May-13 12:43:00

Zeux have everything crossed for you. Try not to put the two together - cramps might just be stretching, bleeding can be completely normal. Hope the next few hours go quickly for you - will be thinking of you and sending lots of positive thoughts. thanks

Vixjane Thu 23-May-13 13:09:21

I'm so so sorry baking. Please know that you're in our thoughts and we're here should you need anything.

zeux thinking of you this afternoon x x

Pentagon Thu 23-May-13 13:20:04

baking I am so, so sorry you're going through this, it's heartbreaking...maybe you can take some time off ttc, ask your GP to refer you for recurrent miscarriage investigations and try again when you've had some space and time? (and hopefully some answers?) And don't start a thread next time! Thinking of you flowers

Santa, Janie I feel the same and was also telling my DH yesterday about what happened to Aoife, as if I knew her in RL. It's amazing the solidarity you feel with people you've never met but have a shared experience of miscarriage.

Aoife, hope you're coping OK hun...x

Pentagon Thu 23-May-13 13:27:11

oh no, zeux hopefully it's nothing serious. Good luck with the scan this afternoon!

shellsocks Thu 23-May-13 13:33:16

Oh zeux fingers crossed for you this afternoon x

I second pink what a shit week, and yes I get upset for everyone just like I would a friend in RL...we all know exactly what it feels like hmm

jmf294 Thu 23-May-13 13:46:30

Baking- I'm so sorry to hear your news. Thinking of you.
Zeux- hope all is ok, I bled throughout my pregnancy with my daughter so it often has a god outcome.

I also told my DH about dear Aoife as I am really sad for her.
I had told him about her before and he remembered- he doesn't do any online social stuff but I think he understands why I do.
Thinking of you still Aoife xx

You lovely ladies here have been such a strength of support in what had been a horrible year- with a MC and then TTC again.
My family were shocking and I only had my DH for support so to have another group to reach out too for support has been such a blessing.

I keep having to say that on the day I hold my new baby whenever that may be and this journey will be worth it and I wish that for us all.

I'm a bit of a nervous wreck though- just had a blocked number on my
Phone and my heart started racing as I thought it was the FMC calling with bad news.
Wishing everyone much strength and love xx

GaryBuseysTeeth Thu 23-May-13 14:02:45

sad Baking, I'm so sorry for you. I can't work out what else to say, what a massive pile of shit, sending you lots of love & flowers

zeux, keeping my fingers crossed for you.

Cross-post/thinking with everyone on the MN mc bond, you're a lovely bunch, and although it's absolute shite that a thread like this is needed, it's fantastic to share everything with you all.

Bakingtins Thu 23-May-13 14:03:31

Thanks everyone. We had all the RMC investigations after the last one, there is nothing wrong, apparently. sad I was already on all the therapies they throw at it when investigations don't show anything (aspirin, high dose folic acid, progesterone) so there is nothing more to offer me.
The consultant thinks I am "hyperfertile" that's a fucking laugh and have a very good womb lining that accepts embryos that should never implant, that have no chance of developing and that in many women would not make it as far as a missed period. She still thinks I have a good chance of having another child but I'm not sure I can put us all through it over and over again in the vain hope there is a decent egg in there somewhere.

DIYandEatCake Thu 23-May-13 14:20:25

Oh no baking, I'm so so sorry, you so deserve better luck than this, it is just too cruel. Was really really hoping you'd have good news. Am so angry and sad for you.

zeux keeping everything crossed for you and thinking of you this afternoon.

I agree with everyone else about feeling you are all friends - this thread is such a brilliant support and I find I'm rooting for everyone on scan days/scares. It's so wonderful to have other people who understand.

Aoifebelle Thu 23-May-13 14:39:58

Shit, what a horrible few days. You have been such a tower of strength for me, and your messages have really helped. Bakingtins and Zeux, my heart is breaking for all of us. It is all just so fucking unfair.

Zeuxippe Thu 23-May-13 16:11:16

Well the news is not good. I should be ten and a half weeks pregnant. There is a baby but it only measures 6 + 5 and I'm sure about my dates. There is a faint heartbeat, very slow, but no yolk sac. It looks as though the pregnancy will fail but they cannot be sure so will re-scan me in a week.

Just feel numb

Bakingtins Thu 23-May-13 16:17:42

Zeux I'm so sorry. This has been a truly shit week. I'm in exactly the same boat, rescan in a week but no doubt in my mind that it's only going one way.

GaryBuseysTeeth Thu 23-May-13 16:30:49

Oh Zeux, I'm so sorry for your news. I hope this week passes quickly for you....same for you Baking.

LuckySocks13 Thu 23-May-13 17:00:41

Oh no Baking and Zuex sad I am so sad to hear your news. Really hoping they maybe wrong about this. I was told at 8 weeks the baby wasn't there and now heart beat then 2 weeks later all ok. Wishing the same for you. Life is so cruel. Also thinking of you Aoife. Hugs for you all xxx

Zeuxippe Thu 23-May-13 17:02:01

Meant to say thank you everyone for your support. I don't think there is any hope really.

baking I'm so sorry things haven't worked out for you either x.

Will come back on in a week and let you know the news but I think I'm basically out.

Goodbye and good luck to you all x

DIYandEatCake Thu 23-May-13 18:47:16

Oh no zeux I'm so sorry it's not good news. It really has been a shitty week hasn't it. Thinking of you and baking and aoife.

BlackholesAndRevelations Thu 23-May-13 18:54:15

Oh I'm so heartbroken for you, zeux, baking and Aoife. Life's a big massive pile of shit and so unfair at times. sad sadsad xxxxxxxxxxxxx

baking and zeux I'm so so sorry you are both going through this - sending you lots of love and hugs.

We have our early scan tomorrow morning and we are petrified x

BumpKitty Thu 23-May-13 20:26:02

oh god that's so sad baking and zeux and so distressing to wait a week to have a scan when you know in your heart it's no good. I'm thinking of you both xxx

Good luck for tomorrow mummy

BrieMonster Thu 23-May-13 20:58:59

Hi bumpkitty.. How are you doing?
I'm 31 weeks on Saturday. And ever so self conscious especially reading all the sad news of the week. I'm so sorry for the heartbreaking developments. Can't say anything to help obviously I just wish everyone the best.

BlackholesAndRevelations Thu 23-May-13 21:05:25

Good luck mummy xxx

ChocolateCremeEggBag Thu 23-May-13 21:07:23

Oh no! I'm away for a day and come back to such sad news. I'm so so sorry Aoife, Bakng & Zeux life is so fucking shit at times.
Sending you big hugs and hope you are getting lots in RL too
flowers flowers flowers

I had a very small bleed this morning (which went to brown by lunch so think should be nothing) but it brought home how I am not ever going to feel "safe" until I have a baby in my arms.
I am so glad to have all of you here to help me through it, really hope that I am able to help some of you too.
Feeling so sad.

Good lcuk tomorrow Mummy - we need some positifrickingtivity !

DIYandEatCake Thu 23-May-13 21:12:46

Will be thinking of you and wishing for the best tomorrow mummy. I'm getting scared about my 12 week scan already and it's still nearly 2 weeks away. I may not be on here for the next week as off on hols (in the uk, nowhere exotic!), but will be thinking of everyone.

IBelieveInPink Thu 23-May-13 21:19:51

What a horrific day. I'm so sorry zeux.

Good luck for tomorrow mummy.

Chocolate - how scary for you lovely. I'm sure like you say is nothing. Remember brown is fine!!

Worrying about everyone now (myself included) can we please all just sit in a big ball of cotton wool? Seems much safer sad x

Vixjane Thu 23-May-13 21:39:18

Thinking of you zeux and so sorry this is happenng.

Fingers crossed for you tomorrow mummy

chocolate hope you're ok now and no more spotting. Brown is fine as ibip said

BumpKitty Thu 23-May-13 21:46:17

wow brie 31 weeks that's ace, I bet you still feel like you have ages to go though! I'm good thanks, I had my 16 week appt today and got to hear the heartbeat, so.. very pleased and grateful and trying to take nothing for granted ibip i'll come and join you in the cotton wool please - we could do some literal nesting smile

choc you sound very sensible and calm, brown is good xx

diy i wish you a lovely relaxing (with a toddler!) migraine free holiday

Pentagon Thu 23-May-13 22:25:19

oh man, it has been a truly crappy, sad week for this thread :-( Aoife, Baking & Zeux my heart goes out to you...flowers flowers flowers

mummy good luck tomorrow!

choc glad the bleed was a small one and has now stopped.

bump so glad you got to hear the heartbeat today - it must have put your mind at ease! I'm still upset that I didn't hear it last Friday but I think I've been feeling the baby lately which has stopped me from going insane!

brie I was wondering how far along you are. Nearly 31 weeks - wow! Not long to go now, hope you're feeling OK.

shellsocks Thu 23-May-13 22:26:31

zeux I'm so sorry and upset for you, life just isn't fair...I hope the week goes quickly and you are being looked after in RL xxx

baking and aoife hope you are coping ok tonight and have lots of hugs with your DP x

Good luck for tomorrow mummy

choc sorry to hear abt your bleed, fingers crossed that's the last of it

God pink I'm with you, we all feel so fragile at the moment, so glad we have each other to talk to

BlackholesAndRevelations Fri 24-May-13 05:43:52

Another big bust up with dp. That makes two this week. Seriously worried about our future sad

ChocolateCremeEggBag Fri 24-May-13 07:40:45

Oh honey I'm sorry you are going through it with DP <holds Blackholes hand> maybe time to go and do something fun and totally non baby related? I realise I know none of the details so sorry if this is inappropriate.

jmf294 Fri 24-May-13 07:51:29

Blackholes- some time out and something fun sounds a good suggestion.
Keep talking to him even if you feel like throttling him. People cope with stress very differently and right now being pregnant after a loss is a hugely stressful time. Plus hormones makes things even more tricky.
Find some time for both of you together if that's possible.

I'm having a duvet day today- been struggling for weeks with exhaustion and nausea and been dizzy since yesterday.
Back to bed for me soon.

IBelieveInPink Fri 24-May-13 07:59:24

I could soo do with a duvet day today! Been a very, very long week, and looking forward to a rest this weekend.

Blackholes - do you want to tell us about it? Not meaning to pry, but sometimes just getting it out there helps? Totally understand if not.
Something fun sounds like a great idea. Me and DH have also been 'tense' recently as he has so much on at work, so we are planning something fun for this weekend. No idea what!! smile

WillSantaComeAgain Fri 24-May-13 08:53:51

Oh, oh, oh, what a sad time for everyone. Posifrickitivity to mummy, and lots of hugs and support to zeux, baking and aoife.

Another one wanting to join you in the big ball of cotton wool - though I'd settle for my bed. THe only time I am happy and relaxed at the moment is when I'm reading my favourite-of-all-time-ever-in-the-world book (Gone with the Wind) - about the tenth time I've read it? And I get so absorbed and lost in the story that while I'm reading I can forget about everything else in the world, which is all I want to do right now!

Booking appt yesterday, and I arrived and burst into tears, told the midwife (who was an angel) that I couldn't do it, and I wasn't going to answer any questions about whether I wanted a home birth or whether I was planning on breastfeeding, and I didn't want to waste an hour of my time filling in a novella that I'll throw away in three weeks time. She was so understanding, and filled in the paperwork to book me in for scans and bloods, and agreed to book another appt when I'm 12 weeks to do the rest of the paperwork. I've also got a private scan (for a very bargainous £70) on Tuesday, which I'm hoping will be enough to get me through (sanity wise) till I'm 12 weeks. I'll be 9+1 on Tuesday, so if its ok, then hopefully only 3 weeks to wait till the next one.

Blackholes - do feel you can tell us if it helps, but obviously there's no need to. I am struggling with DH myself at the moment, and he's probably not that happy either, as I'm being a prize bitch to live with grinblush. ANd I've got the f****g inlaws this weekend. (They're fine, quite lovely really, I just don't want to have to speak to anyone)

GaryBuseysTeeth Fri 24-May-13 09:14:00

Good luck mummy!

Chocolate, hope that's the last of your bleeding.

Santa, sounds like you've got an excellent MW! Completely get where you're coming from...fingers crossed Tuesday comes around quickly.
Unfortunately all my favourite books are really bloody depressing, tried starting Children of Men (no-one in the world has been fertile for 20+yrs, a pg woman is found & it's all about protecting her), stupid bloody choice!

Brie, 31wks! I remember you getting your BFP <old gimmer>

Blackholes, here with a virtual wine and handhold if you want to talk about it.

Enjoy your duvet day JMF! We're currently having a Peppa Pig marathon & eating cucumber sticks.

Hope everyone has a peaceful, relaxing & rain-free weekend. x

Thinking of you all baking, zuex & aoife-Hope you are all being looked after, at this terrible time xx

Goodluck today mummysmile

Sorry to hear you are having trouble with your dh blackholes, hope it's something that is resolved in time.

Brie 31 weeks, smile not long now, although i bet it feels like ages away to you x

Hope the weather picks up this week as it's half term here, hoping to get the kids out and about to make time go faster, still got just under 3 weeks to go until i'm 12 weeks and hoping i'll get my scan date very soon. If not i will bite the bullet and get a private scan, can't wait much longer to see if bean is ok!!

jmf294 Fri 24-May-13 09:39:25

Thinking of you Mummy today! Xx

shellsocks Fri 24-May-13 10:01:49

Just a quickie to say good luck mummysmile

Vixjane Fri 24-May-13 10:06:36

blackholes some fun time away from the day to day stuff sounds likea great idea. It's a stressful time both halves when trying to get through pg, especially after experiencing what we've all been through. We're here if you need to talk.

jmf duvet day sounds lush!!

Glad your mw was really understanding santa, fingers crossed for you for Tuesday.

Today i feel awful but not with pg stuff! I got a phone call yesterday afternoon offering me the job i interviewed for on Weds. Said i'd love to take it and i also told them i'm pg (it'sa very big company that i'm in and it's an internal move so felt safe saying it then). It went down like a lead balloon, you could so tell he wasn't happy. Rang himthis morning to explain a bit more that i'd got hr advice and they advised me not to say anything cos of the position it puts the panel in etc and he said "well the thing is we've offered it to you now and in 4 months time we have to go throughthe whole process again". It was quite obvious that i wouldn't have got the job if i'd said anything. Have said that i don't want to start off on the wrong foot etc. Not sure why i'm writing it really but think i just needed to get it off my chest. confused

Vixjane Fri 24-May-13 10:07:26

Update us when you can mummy!

As predicted its too early to see anything. She saw a sac, yolk and embryo measuring 2mm - she said we wouldn't see a heartbeat until at least 7mm long. She puts me a 5 weeks and 1 day which given my long cycles and late ovulation is totally plausible.

Back for a re-scan on 7th June x

WillSantaComeAgain Fri 24-May-13 11:24:42

Well, mummy- that is at least not bad news, but obviously frustrating not to be more definitive and v stressful to wait another two weeks.

vix - that is a difficult one, for you both. You can see why your new boss is hmm but then, if he works for a big company, its really not a massive problem PLUS its the LAW. So if he has a problem with it, I suggest he takes it up with his MP and lobby them to revert us back to the 1980s/1990s. grin You've done the right thing though, because you've been honest as soon as possible whilst protecting yourself and making sure you've put you and your burgeoning family's needs first. I always think that if a man could take maternity leave, he would be twice as devious and underhand as we are forced to be, probably getting himself a payrise into the bargain.

JanieLovesLuckySocks Fri 24-May-13 11:27:24

that's great mummy smile at least you know where you are now and can look forward to your next scan. i had long cycles too so i understand it's difficult to know where you on - i miraculously wanted them to tell me i was at 12 weeks when i knew deep down i would only be at about 8!

yesterday's news has made me feel so grateful for what i have so far, and has made any little niggly tweaks be very welcomed. pregnancy (especially after mc) is such a damn rollercoaster of emotions.

blackholes i just echo what everyone has said, please feel free to share if you think it might help to talk about it. we're all here to help if you need us x

vix firstly congrats on the job offer!! i'm no HR expert but i can't help but think that what your new boss has said is pretty illegal. you were offered the job on your excellence and to discriminate like that seems totally sexist and wrong. so what if he has to get maternity cover..that's not your problem. ladies have babies, he'll need to live with that. i would write the conversation down so that you have all the stuff he said and check with HR. i think he could regret that.

on a lighter note, i had a dream last night that ryan gosling wanted to go out with me (i'm quite in love with him), i told him he was too late as now i was married and pregnant. he asked could i just spend one day with him...then i woke up dammit.

happy friday x

LuckySocks13 Fri 24-May-13 11:34:20

I'm definitely counting my blessings after such sad news this wek on here. I just hope this pregnancy continues as has few scares but trying to find that positivinfrigity! Mummy, I had to wait another couple of weeks too like you. Try and fill your days and keep busy. I'm having a nightmare time! Chicken Pox is a horrid childhood disease! No sleep for anyone last night. Poor DS is covered and soo uncomfortable even using the creams sad poor baby sad

Yay mummy that's brilliant news smile
Finally got my scan date today, was so pleased until i saw the time 8:20am, dh won't be able to come as dc are needing to be taken to school that day. Hoping my mother will be able to come with me as i don't want to go all alonesad

Oh i second chicken pox is a horrid thing lucky, i remember when pfb, dc2 & 3 got it within a week of eachother. Poor babies were itching from ear to ear and nothing i could do would help. Hope your dc get better soon x

IBelieveInPink Fri 24-May-13 11:49:23

Vix - I do work in Hr so if he gives you any hassle you come to me!! You have done exactly the right thing, and what he has said is out of order, however you will have to work with him. I would keep a record of it, in case you need it in the future, but hopefully he will have a little think about it and realise he was in the wrong.

Mummy- good news so far. Today all is good smile keep busy in between now and next scan...

Thanks ladies. Initially I was thinking it was a bad outcome but I guess I have had no bleeding or cramping so that is a good thing - she said it looked all fine and normal for 5 weeks and 1 day.

The only thing making me nervous is that this is where I was with my last pregnancy - scan at EPU to be told 5 weeks and then during the 2 week wait the miscarriage started - fingers crossed it doesn't happen again - think my EDD is 23.01.14 x

Pentagon Fri 24-May-13 12:45:53

mummy not bad news then! I know it'd be better to have a definite answer but if you have long cycles, it's very likely that it's only too early! OMG, I've just remembered that with DD I had a scan just before the May holiday weekend, I was 5w+ so inconclusive and her EDD was 22/01! (I went back a week later, we saw the heartbeat and everything turned out well, thank goodness - I hope it's the same for you!)

Vix I'm no HR expert either but I do think this is discrimination and if you work for a big company it shouldn't be a massive issue for them! You did the right thing!

Lucky I hope DS gets better soon and you all get some sleep! DD hasn't had any of the horrid childhood diseases yet - I'm really dreading them!!

Janie I'm so jealous, I love Ryan Gosling! I want a similar dream!! wink

Vixjane Fri 24-May-13 12:57:02

Thanks guys, you've helped me feel better that ive done the right thing. have to see how it turns out.

mummy if it all looks fine then its a good sign. Try and keep busy till the next scan easier said than done

Thanks ladies pentagon thanks for Sharon your story - it's good to hear other people have gone through it and had a good outcome xxx

shellsocks Fri 24-May-13 13:37:49

mummy try and focus on the positives and two weeks isn't that long to wait x

Hope aoife baking and zeux are doing ok today

lucky hope your DS gets better soon hmm

blackholes DH and I are having our first ever rows this PG and it's awful (ours are abt his parents tho) I cried nearly for the whole day on Sat after we saw them, so on Sun I spelt out to him how much pressure I'm under worrying constantly abt this baby and extra stress from him/them is the worst thing as I can't handle anything else right now it upsets me too much...would a similar clear the air be good for you? Thank god for the doppler tho, so reassuring when you've for stomach pains etc from the stress

Meant thanks for sharing your story not Sharon your story!! Xx

andadietcoke Fri 24-May-13 14:30:47

santa mahoosive hugs. I also had a mini meltdown on Tuesday at the hospital - the registrar didn't know what to do with me so went and got a midwife. You'd think he'd be used to hormonal women!

mummy so far so good smile

jmf yay for duvet days - i took the day off yesterday after being horribly sick. My blood pressure was high on Tuesday, and I was worried it was related to that. Had a nap and woke up with a puffy swollen face so ended up ringing mat triage convinced i had PE even though on tuesday there was no protein in my wee. Everything was fine, and i'm fine today, but it was good to have a day in bed with my wriggly babies wrapped in cotton wool.

What a shit, crappy, sad week. Hope you all have your cotton wool coats on ladies

Pentagon Fri 24-May-13 14:53:53

hey mummy I guessed it was sharing! :-) your situation reminded me of myself - my cycles were also long (35 days) but my GP didn't listen to me so she sent me for a scan earlier than I had anticipated. They thought I would be 6 weeks, I was pretty sure I was 5 but seeing everyone's face drop during the scan (because of my last LMP and having had a missed miscarriage at 5.5 weeks in December) really freaked me out. I spent the bank holiday weekend in a state of desperation but had good news at my next scan. Fingers crossed it is the same for you!!

blackholes I forgot to include you earlier!! I'm so sorry you're upset, I hate fighting with DH (well, everyone for that matter) and when I do I prefer to talk it through and have things resolved. I can't stand sulking. I hope you manage to sort it out soon and enjoy the long weekend!

ChocolateCremeEggBag Fri 24-May-13 20:46:32

Lucky - Piriton was a life saver when DS had the pox last year. It helps with the itchy and it's slightly sedative so helps them get to sleep. we had to use it when DS had his awful racking cough a few weeks ago as he was starting to rival me with bags under his eyes from lack of sleep. (not advocating drugging children willy nilly though!)

Mummy - keeping FX for you - hope the 2 weeks fly by.

Well I will be off MN for the next week - We are off to France for the week to stay with MIL and stepFIL. Yesterday's mini bleed definitely gone, just some mucky cm today, so feeling a bit more confident (like this - - much vs the -- this much it was yesterday)


flowers back 3 June flowers

BumpKitty Fri 24-May-13 20:50:38

mummy sounds like everything is as it should be then, bloody unpredictable cycles! Hopefully the next scan will show you much more.

lucky you have probably been told this but virasooth is great and porridge oats in the bath (in a sock). My DD had 2 really uncomfortable nights then started to get better, hopefully it will be nearly gone for your holiday.

blackholes i hope things are better for you today

vix i think you have done everything right, you just need to work out if you can work for someone who is so unprofessional!

BumpKitty Fri 24-May-13 20:52:42

have a lovely trip choc we'll save your seat for you grin

Thanks for your comments ladies - I really appreciate it.

I think longer cycles make it so hard to date pregnancy - just going to try and remain positive and hope the 2 weeks go quickly!! X

JanieLovesLuckySocks Fri 24-May-13 23:37:12

Have a lovely holiday choc smile

JanieLovesLuckySocks Sat 25-May-13 00:11:03

Confession time...I wasn't going to use the Doppler until after the next scan (next Friday) but I was bored and DH is out...got a heartbeat!! Meep! Posifrickintivity might be back in the house! Sleep tight all (fx for Ryan gosling dream again wink) xx

Zeuxippe Sat 25-May-13 03:46:17

Hello everyone. Just checking in for a quick update.

I miscarried this morning, about 24 hours after the spotting began. Feels like it has been pretty complete but apparently I still need to go for the rescan on Thursday to make sure.

So goodbye everyone. Thank you for the help and support you have given me over the past three months (and longer for those i met on the TTC after MC thread). I hope you have happy healthy pregnancies with lovely little lively babies at the end of them.

After two miscarriages back to back (the first in January this year) I'm going to take a break for a few months now to recover emotionally.

Love to you all xxx

BlackholesAndRevelations Sat 25-May-13 06:54:05

Thank you all for your kind words and support. I will reply properly later about me.

Zeux- I'm so very very sorry for you I can't tell you. I had two back to back and it's soul destroying. I also wanted a break. We waited one cycle and the period I had brought it all rushing back and made me want to ttc again after it.

Take as much time as you need to heal, hold and talk and cry with your dh, have time off work if that's what you need. I absorbed myself in DIY to keep my body busy and my mind distracted.

Thinking of you and feeling so very sad for you. Lots of love xxx

GardenWorm Sat 25-May-13 06:56:50

Oh Zeux so sad to read this, so sorry for your loss. I hope you and your family are being supported in RL. Take as long as you need before getting back on this roller coaster. I wish you the very best with your continued journey to a successful pregnancy and healthy baby. It will happen for you. Sending you a massive squeeze of a hug xxx

Bakingtins Sat 25-May-13 07:31:18

Zeux I am very sorry to hear that. I don't blame you for needing some time to regroup, it's very tough to have just picked yourself up and to get the stuffing knocked out of you again. I'm sure you know the MC threads are there if you need to vent. I will be hanging around there for the next few months as we consider our next move. I'm so sad for you, everybody on this thread deserves to get their happy ending.

BlackholesAndRevelations Sat 25-May-13 07:34:13


ChocolateCremeEggBag Sat 25-May-13 07:36:01

So so sorry to hear that Zeux - hope you have lots of hugs in RL. Wishing you all the very best flowers

ChocolateCremeEggBag Sat 25-May-13 07:36:27

(yes I am on MN when I should be packing)

Vixjane Sat 25-May-13 08:20:40

So so sorry zeux. After 2mc myself i can totally understand your need to regroup and recover emotionally. We're hear should you need us for anything at all. X x

Vixjane Sat 25-May-13 08:21:46

chocolate go pack! Have a great hol!

shellsocks Sat 25-May-13 08:21:52

Oh zeux I'm so sorry, I hope it wasn't too bad physically and that you are being look after....be very kind to yourself and good luck for when you feel ready to try again xxx

baking hugs to you too x

choc have a lovely holiday smile

Bodicea Sat 25-May-13 08:45:07

Hi just back from holiday and sorry I had to come back to so much sad news. My heart goes out to zeux, aoife and baking tins. I hope you are getting lots of emotional support and give yourselves time to heal xxx

IBelieveInPink Sat 25-May-13 08:46:22

Zeux - I'm so sorry. 2 back to back is heartbreaking. Take the time you need to heal. I do hope to see you back sometime in the not too distant future. Thank you too for all your support and help while you have been here. Will miss you xx

IBelieveInPink Sat 25-May-13 08:47:30

Janie - yay for doppling.
Chocolate - have a fantastic hols!
Bod - welcome back! smile

zuex take care of yourself, hope you are getting lots of love and support at home.
Hope to see you here one day, when you have healed. Thinking of you xx

Zeux - I'm so so sorry hun. I completely understand why you may want to take time. Sending lots of love and hugs xxx

I have woken up this morning and boobs feel completely normal and I have some brown spotting when I wipe - positivity slipping away here :-(

JanieLovesLuckySocks Sat 25-May-13 09:59:12

aw zeux i'm so so sorry. what a rough ride you've had. take as much time as you need and go easy on yourself for the next few weeks. i really hope our paths cross again soon with positive news xxx

mummy try not to don't panic (easier said than done i know), i had brown wipeage at exactly that stage - on and off for a week or so but i think it was just old implantation blood. brown blood should be ok xx

Thanks Janie - just had a big cry - this should be an exciting time in our lives and instead it is just pure anxiety. I'm trying to be positive and think brown blood is old blood but I'm only 5 weeks and already feel emotionally drained by it all :-(

Sorry for the negative post - just feeling low :-( xxx

JanieLovesLuckySocks Sat 25-May-13 10:06:56

aw mummy it's normal to be panicky, i'm pretty sure i wrote an exact copy of your post when i had it at 5 / 6 weeks. sending you a reassuring hug xx

GardenWorm Sat 25-May-13 10:16:55

Tins I've just read back and seen your sad news too. So sorry. How can something that sounds so good (hyper fertility) be so shit. Sending you a big hug too. X

LuckySocks13 Sat 25-May-13 11:18:47

Mummy I have also had brown silage at about 3 different stages firstly at around five to 6 weeks. Here for hand holding. Try and put your feet up and take it easy if you can. Pregnancy is such a worrying anxious time especially after what we have all been through. Janie how nice to hear a heartbeat smile I really would like a Doppler but DH would never agree! Still have a very spotty itchy, scratchy DS with the pox! Thanks for the tips ladies. Really hope they stop appearing soon or no chance of hollybobs Friday! Happy holiday to you chocolate. Thinking of you ladies with such sad news this week. Hope you are being looked after well. My friend in RL found she had lost one twin at her scan. sad heartbreaking.

LuckySocks13 Sat 25-May-13 11:19:40

That should be wipeage and not silage!

Pentagon Sat 25-May-13 11:22:50

Zeux I'm so sorry....I hope it wasn't too painful physically (I bet emotionally it was/is no matter what) and I hope you have lots of TLC and support in RL to help you get through this flowers

mummy I also had brown spotting at 5/6 weeks with DD as well as this pregnancy. With the 2MMCs I had nothing at all. So, as insane as this may sound, I see brown spotting as a good sign.

Janie hooray for listening to the heartbeat. Damn, I want a doppler!

Choc Enjoy your holiday!

Welcome back Bod!

Thanks ladies - I really appreciate you taking the time to reply to me.

The brown spotting has continued through the morning - no cramps or pains at the moment. DH is not dealing with it very well - he is normally such a positive person but he just said how hard he will find it if we have to go through a miscarriage again :-( I'm so worried that the 5w and 1d baby we saw yesterday was actually a baby from say last week and it has stopped growing :-( xx

Bodicea Sat 25-May-13 17:11:03

So just went shopping in a massive kiddicare with my 32 weeks pregnant and baby guru ( she has one already is a primary school teacher and is about quit to set up a baby sensory franchise). She is font of all knowledge and advised me on prams etc. Course I didn't buy anything but just followed her round, absorbed her knowledge and allowed myself to get a little excited!
For those who want to know: Apparently the oyster pram is best buy as allows baby to sit up better further down the line so can use for longer. apparently a lot of the other makes silver surf, bugaboo, icandy, quinny etc baby is only half sat up which apparently they hate as get bigger so dont last v long. So there you are for future reference :-)
Was itching to buy stuff but kept hand firmly in pockets!
I did get a bounty pack so didn't come away empty handed!

Bodicea Sat 25-May-13 17:14:22

I keep forgetting that a lot of you guys already have kiddies so that info is prob useless to most of you. The world of baby stuff is a complete wonder to me at mo!

andadietcoke Sat 25-May-13 17:35:05

Some more posifrickintivity for you mummy, my brown bleeding started at 5 weeks, and has been continuing on and off since. It's horrid, but 'normal' for me!

Bodicea Sat 25-May-13 17:43:25

Sorry just read your post mummy. I know it's hard but most of us have had spotting and it turned out fine. It's just a normal part of early pegnancy. I had red spotting a d that was fine too. It is shit when it happens though xxx

Thanks ladies - it's just so horrible to see. It hasn't got any worse through the day so I guess only time will tell. DH and I had a chat and if this is a no go then we are leaving it for a while - I just think we are both so scared. We are continuing to be positive I think we just need to have a plan if the worst happens.

Hope you are all having a lovely weekend x

IBelieveInPink Sat 25-May-13 18:15:37

Ooh bod that is the one I had been 'browsing'! Good to know! (I have no dc so am completely clueless!)

Okay tmi time. Does anyone else have really dry nipples?! As in, a little flakey? Is this normal pg symptom? Is this hideous cold weather finally getting to my skin? Or are my nipples going to fall off?!

LuckySocks13 Sat 25-May-13 18:45:09

Pink I do believe I had a little of that the other day!

jmf294 Sat 25-May-13 19:21:55

Zeux- thoughts with you xx
Hope things have settled for you now Mummy.

Bod- with the prams the bugaboo which I love does allow a child to sit up straight - my daughter who is now 3 can still fit in it. It is much bigger seat wise than the I candy. Silver cross is a nightmare for sitting up. I have had a silver cross pram, phil and reds and silver cross buggy before I finally bought what I had always wanted which was the bugaboo. I think it's one of the best but its expensive - but it's a lovely flat pram and then a comfortable seat when converted to a buggy. Plus you can change the colours- sightless pram obsessed here!!

Hope you are all enjoying this lovely weather and pregnancy anxiety is at a minimum.

BlackholesAndRevelations Sat 25-May-13 19:49:20

Mummy- hope youre ok and the spotting is just normal xxx

I had the iCandy apple- think it's the biggest of the iCandy prams. Bloody loved it! Huge pram carrycot (which didn't use for long as dc wanted to sit up and see the world at about 4 months) and lovely big pushchair seat. Loved it so much and am quite sad we sold it!

BlackholesAndRevelations Sat 25-May-13 19:50:58

Ps sold it because we converted to a pear when dc 2 was born and didn't like it, and bought a smaller pushchair for dc2 as dc1 was walking everywhere anyway.

GardenWorm Sat 25-May-13 20:45:10

On prams/pushchairs for those of you that don't want to spend hundreds and hundreds I can very much recommend the Baby Jogger City Mini (about £250 and they do a double, won a few awards) it can be used from birth and I did on and off but I also recommend using a sling/wrap for when they are wee then they get to nuzzle exactly where they like to be and hear your heartbeat. Perfick.

shellsocks Sat 25-May-13 21:22:36

mummy hope you're doing ok and there has been no more spotting tonight...hopefully it's just old blood and this is a stage you just have to ride out, so tough tho I know hmm

janie fab the doppler worked smile

pink I had that when PG with DS but not yet this time?!

bod sounds exciting! When are you gonna buy one? Can you ask her abt doubles please?! I think I want a tandem (so baby jogger out garden) but it's so hard to choose...thinking of the Phil and Teds as this will become a single again when DS is too old....not gonna go try out till after 20w scan but can't stop myself from googling confused

BumpKitty Sat 25-May-13 22:44:02

I second garden on the slings, DD would not go in a pram at all till she was at least 6 months (ditto moses basket, cot....) I had a moby wrap, a babasling and an ergo (all great for different stages).

Anyone know anything about buggy boards?

mummy hope its all calmed down for you now

bod you are very restrained smile

janie yey for the heartbeat

Hi ladies

Thanks for all your messages today - I really appreciate you taking the time to reply.

Seems to have slowed down a bit and there is nothing on the pad I have had on. Fingers crossed that's it - I was thinking that yesterday my scan was internal - do you think that could have caused the spotting?? Xx

BlackholesAndRevelations Sun 26-May-13 01:43:30

Mummy- that's a possibility! Glad it's slowed down.. Fingers crossed.

Also seconding the sling suggestion- I have a moby wrap and a Rose and rebellion. Very excited about using the moby again (hopefully.......!)

Prams again- our apple was mainly bought by monetary gifts from different family members as it did cost an absolute fortune!

shellsocks Sun 26-May-13 06:01:59

Urgh up at 5.15 to go and spend the day with the PILs on their holiday, I must be mad hmm

bump no knowledge but I discounted a buggy board as DS will still only be 20m?

mummy really glad things have slowed, hope it stays that way today x

LuckySocks13 Sun 26-May-13 07:45:34

Morning all. Happy Sun (ny day) ! Mummy , so glad it seems to have stopped. Long may that continue.
I have a Mamas and Papas pram to make use of again would love a new one but couldn't justify it!
I would love to try a wrap sling this time and have had a little look but there is soo many!
Hope your day is ok Shell! what an early start! Where are you off too?
Well as DS is still a spotty monkey I think we will be hanging out in the garden today! On the plus side he slept in his own bed!

Bodicea Sun 26-May-13 08:24:25

Weather is lovely but I have a raging headache that had since 4:00 yesterday. I never get headaches! Is this another pregnancy thing?
Hmm will have another look at bugaboo, she was very dismissive ofthat but another friend has one so will see what she thinks. It's exciting, like buying a car! But no will not be buying for ages I think. Don't think even she knows much about doubles shell!
I like the idea of a sling, apparently they are less likely to get flat head syndrome the more they are in a sling and out of any apparatus. Any recommendations?

BlackholesAndRevelations Sun 26-May-13 10:05:35

Bod- as mentioned before, the moby is fab for little newborns. Holds them so snug against your body, like a constant cuddle! They do take a little getting used to (took me about three attempts to tie it on right) as they are just a massive expanse of stretchy fabric!

Stay away from baby Bjorns and the like, as they hang baby unnaturally by crotch. Babies also shouldn't be facing out (I'm no expert, perhaps look for a local sling meet? We have one once a month in one of the children's centres).

Headache- yes I'm getting terrible ones. Think I'm quite dehydrated though, as no matter how much I drink I still feel thirsty!

Feel sick today and quite ragey... Good signs.

Happy Sunday everyone xx

BlackholesAndRevelations Sun 26-May-13 10:07:31

Oh just thought, think the newer baby bjorn has a wider seat bit so that the legs are open,.. They should be sitting rather than hanging. Legs out like a frog!

Sorry quick typing and lack of grammar!

Hi ladies no more spotting today but I just don't know what to think anymore - my boobs aren't sore at all and I just can't get it out my head that this one is all over as well.

I am going to phone the EPU on Tuesday but I don't think they will re-scan me any earlier - she said they wait 2 weeks to make sure you can see growth but wouldn't there be some growth in a week? X

BrieMonster Sun 26-May-13 13:16:55

bumpkitty I just got a buggy board for my chameleon albeit 3 months early cos DS (just turned 2) refuses to sit in buggy or wriggles out completely. Had hoped it would appeal and mean I wasn't carrying him everywhere which is impossible anyway. Been somewhat successful and just need to hope that when I actually need him to use it daily he will. I read every review going and was a toss up between this and lascal maxi. Loads on eBay!

Zeuxippe Sun 26-May-13 18:21:37

Thank you all for the lovely messages. This is my last visit to MN for a whole but I didn't want to leave without acknowledging all your kind words. They have really helped thanks

baking I really hope things work out better for you than they have for me.

mummy I hope the spotting is nothing serious.

I'm aiming to come back online in August on the ttc post mc thread but will be thinking of you all in the meantime xx

LuckySocks13 Sun 26-May-13 18:56:17

Oh no am bleeding bright red sad am off to a and e sad 2nd time this week

Zeux take care of yourself, and bestwishes for the future wherever that may take you thanks

Lucky Hoping against hope your baby makes it, have everything crossed for you xx

JanieLovesLuckySocks Sun 26-May-13 19:28:09

thanks for popping by zeux, good luck with everything xx

lucky you poor thing sad hope they can give you a scan to reassure you. got everything crossed for you and bubba xx

IBelieveInPink Sun 26-May-13 19:48:44

Lucky, I was bleeding red at 13 weeks. Baby was fine - having a nap when they scanned me! Thinking of you, hope all is okay xx

LuckySocks13 Sun 26-May-13 20:15:09

Thanks everyone. Seems everything closed for bank holiday so no scan sad they don't seem to really give to hoots! Am having to wait for an anti d injection then go home and see how it pans out I guess. Had to leave poor spotty clingy DS at home with my parents.

GaryBuseysTeeth Sun 26-May-13 20:16:15

Good luck at A&E Lucky, thinking of you & hope you get seen swiftly. x

Zeux, best of luck to you in the future, hope the time away is healing & positive flowers

Mummy, hope you have a symptoms flare up asap & feel most positive about this pg. x

Bod,we're staying away from bits of fabric slings (DS would spend the entire time tugging it/me) but have bought an Ergo Baby Original & a Bushbaby
We have a Babybjorn which DH likes but I can't get on with it, he only used it for short walks out with DS for the first 4 months or so & I'm happy to report he has no leg/spinal problems....he's got massive feet but I blame DH for that grin

We're going for a Joovy Ultralite Caboose double stroller, only downside is you can't buy it in many places in the UK so we're fooked if something needs repairing...we don't live on the Ground Floor & I can't see myself getting newborn, toddler & double buggy up/down comfortably in a Phil&Teds or sidebyside double.

Hope you get a scan tomorrow lucky, surely they could scan you if you kicked up a fuss-i fail to believe they have no scanning equipment available. Hope things settle for you, fx for you

BlackholesAndRevelations Sun 26-May-13 20:45:40

Oh gosh lucky. You poor thing. How are you now? Fingers crossed everything is ok. Such a stressful time sad xxx

lucky thinking of you Hun xx

shellsocks Sun 26-May-13 22:10:52

Oh no lucky hope it's stopped now and you get a scan soon x

Aaaggghh gary I got all excited that was THE ONE but then I saw you can't use it from birth and older child has to be at least 2.5 hmm devastated!!

LuckySocks13 Sun 26-May-13 23:48:35

No scans until after the bank holiday. I'm so worried that the nasty painful internal examination will cause more bleeding . The initial bleed earlier was bright red which I feel is bad. They can't seem to find the cause sad why can't life be simple. I can't face yet another loss.

BlackholesAndRevelations Mon 27-May-13 06:38:00

Oh lucky. Are you still bleeding now? sad how many weeks are you? Surely past the need for an internal (if you mean scan?) I had an abdominal one at 8 weeks. Hope you get down there first thing tomorrow and have no more bleeding xxx

Thinking of you lucky, hope your bleeding has stopped x

jmf294 Mon 27-May-13 07:43:55

Lucky- hope things have settled. Are you going to try to get an appointment on Tuesday?
Mummy- hope things are ok for you too- I would ask for an early scan- waiting is horrible.

Is anyone exercising at all?
Prepregnancy I used to run- well slow jog more like. But was quite fit and did 1/2 marathons and regularly ran for 1 hour at weekends.
I have ran once since March!! I see runners when I am out and wish I was running. I was too frightened too run and think I'd still worry. I put in loads of weight when pregnant - 4+ stone so it would have been a good idea to exercise!
I do feel a bit lazy and guilty!!

I've still not told anyone in RL- I am probably going to wait until Thursday for the harmony results before I tell. I'm so terrified and currently can't believe it will be ok!!
Enjoy bank holiday everyone xx

Vixjane Mon 27-May-13 09:23:20

Hope things are better today lucky. Try to rest up if you can.

jmf i played roller derby up until getting pg but obviously thats out now! Have just ordered a pregnancy yoga dvd and am going to start swimming couple times a week as well.

Bodicea Mon 27-May-13 09:27:02

Hi lucky, you shouldn't need an internal now- your past 12 weeks right. To be honest you are prob better waiting for a sonographer scan or consultant scan as most doctors don't know what they are doing ( when pts come to me having had a ward scan I count is as not had one!) not their fault they don't get a lot of time scanning. We have time to train them twice a week at our hospital and they hardly ever turn up as they are so over stretched! Feel sorry for them.

This maybe tmi but my sex drive has gone through the rod since got into second trimester. Keep pestering husband! Consulted dr google and apparently I am more likely to have a boy. Anyone else experiencing this ?

Bodicea Mon 27-May-13 09:30:08

Sorry that's gone through the roof!

shellsocks Mon 27-May-13 09:49:46

lucky hope you have an uneventful day and get an scan early tomorrow x

jmf I put on 4st with DS too blush and only lost one when he was born and then went to WW when I finished bf....am 16w tomorrow and still half a pound under my target weight (I lost a lot in the first few weeks) even tho my bump is huge (already been asked when due and getting the shocked faces ha ha) and have done ZERO exercise... so I would say each PG is different and maybe we won't put on so much this time?

bod I won't have sex prob while PG but I have been having the odd rampant sex dream so who knows ha ha grin

IBelieveInPink Mon 27-May-13 10:14:26

In term of exercise, I used to be a bit of a gym bunny. However since TTC, that has dropped off a bit, and with all the mc I ended up comfort eating and avoiding the gym, so put on a stone before getting pg this time!! However since then I don't seem to have put anything else on probably because I already have some excess fat . Have just for brave enough to do a bit of excercise- I have davinas pregnancy work out which is low impact enough not to scare me!!

Bod - I definitely noticed an increase in sex drive too, but so far have been too scared to do anything about it, especially after having a bleed. Going to be a looong 9 months.

BlackholesAndRevelations Mon 27-May-13 10:26:06

Oh I'm so envy of your sex drives... Roll on second trimester <hopeful>

I don't do any exercise either, apart from running round after my two... Feel very guilty. Keep meaning to go swimming...

Bodicea Mon 27-May-13 10:57:13

My excercise has dropped of significantly but hoping to get back into it a bit now and goodness knows how much weight I have put on after my massive eatathon on holiday. Haven't dared check the scales. However hoping the daily sex has helped replace excercise a bit! Pink I say listen to your sex drive and enjoy it while it lasts ( obviously nt of bleedig) once baby comes sex will prob be non existent for at least 6 months!

andadietcoke Mon 27-May-13 12:40:26

Nope, so sex for me. I think knowing it will just make me bleed has put me off, at least for the last 4 weeks.

lucky was just thinking, can you make an appt with someone that can do an internal examination to check your cervix? If you have a cervical ectropion that would explain all the bleeding, and knowing that's what it is and that you don't have to worry about it would help immeasurably. Not a delightful examination, but knowing that's what mine is has calmed me down a lot - I've stopped worrying about the bleeding now.

IBelieveInPink Mon 27-May-13 21:43:47

Just been reading through my notes in preparation for next midwife appointment tomorrow, have just noticed that my scan notes say that I have an anterior placenta. This means I won't feel wriggles till much later right?! Boo!! And there was me thinking I've been feeling flutters for the last couple of days. Bit disappointed sad

andadietcoke Mon 27-May-13 23:00:46

ibip not necessarily - one of mine has an anterior placenta and I can feel them, and a pg friend has an AP and feels her baby constantly but it's handy to use it as an excuse if you're worried about lack of movement ever

IBelieveInPink Mon 27-May-13 23:05:22

Ah really? Thanks diet smile is Good to know! I did wonder if I did, as I can hear a really clear 'rushing' noise when I listen on the dopplar which I have read is the placenta, and I usually find baby just to the side/tucked underneath that. And to the side is where I have been feeling .... Well... Something. Not sure if it is baby or not. Thanks for the reassurance though, as always!

shellsocks Tue 28-May-13 08:29:05

Hope you get a scan soon lucky and there has been no more bleeding x

mummy hope your doing ok smile

So I'm passed the time when I felt DS for the first time and nothing yet (well I thought maybe one day last week but not since so assume not) bit gutted as I assumed it would be earlier this time! Oh well, 16w today can't believe it...that means only 24 more like 26 weeks left which is madness confused

IBelieveInPink Tue 28-May-13 08:48:18

Shell - you don't have an anterior placenta too do you? (yes I'm a bit obsessed with this now!)

Lucky - hope your okay, are you getting a scan nice and early today?

jmf294 Tue 28-May-13 09:48:59

I didn't feel both mine until 20+ weeks - not sure where the placenta was though.

I need some positivity!!
I was awake for 2 hours in the middle of the night worrying about my harmony results on Thursday, and then when I feel asleep I had nightmares about it.
48 hours to go, debating calling them to ask if they have the results.

andadietcoke Tue 28-May-13 09:51:25

Like jmf I didn't feel 'proper' movement until after my 20w scan, and everything I read said it was normal not to feel anything later than that.

jmf ring. The worst they can say is they haven't got the results back yet. When did you have the test? I was told that if there was a problem they'd ring within a few days, and that was the NHS.

lucky hope you're okay xx

IBelieveInPink Tue 28-May-13 10:39:39

Oh jmf if it is interfering with your sleep that much, I would ring. The worst they can say is they don't have them yet. And it could put your mind at rest straight away. I would.

WillSantaComeAgain Tue 28-May-13 10:45:04

Morning all,

Keeping my fingers crossed for you lucky and for everyone else.

Hoping this week is better than last, otherwise I think we might have to start a new thread on account of the fact that this one may be jinxed.

So, hopefully starting in the right spirit and bringing some posifrickitivity to the group, but I had a reassurance scan this morning (£70) and all was absolutely spot on. Healthy heart beat, a blob that the sonographer assured me was a baby (looked like a blob to me) that measured bang on for dates (9+1). Really hoping that I can start relaxing a bit now - obviously nervous about the harmony test in 3 weeks (wonder how they will calculate it for me, given that I'm going to turn 35 the day I hit 12 weeks?) but I'm now so much further along than the previous two, and the stats are right down there with second trimester losses now (less than 1% after a heartbeat seen at 9 weeks).

My exercise life has fallen off a cliff due to tiredness and a complete lack of motivation - I was really active before, but I've never really enjoyed exercise, so any excuse to give it up... having said that, I'm going to try to get back into it this week.

My sex life on the other hand has gone mental blush. Its as bad as rape week at home at the moment, partly me and partly DH. I have NO idea what's got into him - at least I can blame hormones. Poor thing though, he's all happy about the giant jordanesque norks that are reappearing (literally growing out of bras within a day - up 2 cup sizes within the past week, and think I've got another 2 to go) - but they're so sore, he's not allowed to touch them grin.

So, old wives tales - putting on lots of weight = a boy??? I'm putting on a pound a week, am horny as a hell, my skin is really bad and I'm far less nauseous than with DD.

andadietcoke Tue 28-May-13 10:59:27

santa yay! Congratulations. Brilliant news grin

Re the NT test - they go off maternal age at term I think. So it shouldn't matter about your birthday at 12w.

IBelieveInPink Tue 28-May-13 11:04:20

Fab news Santa. So pleased to hear it. Yeah those statistics help a lot don't they smile
Ooh, perhaps a boy! I'm dying to know. My friend has just found out she is having a boy, and my other friend has just had a girl. Can't wait to know!!

Great news Santa x

Pentagon Tue 28-May-13 11:11:35

Lucky I hope all's OK!

Santa great news about the scan!

ibip I have an anterior placenta too and if I remember well it was the same with DD. Felt movement with her at around 17 weeks but wasn't too obvious or constant till beginning of 19 (which is when I started feeling confident that it was the baby). With this one I think I started feeling something at around 15 weeks - 17 now and still not constant/too obvious.

jmf I would call them. They're likely to have the results by now (I think most of the time they receive them after about 10 days). Good luck!

No exercise for me, I'm waiting for my 20-week scan and if everything is OK I'll take up something mild like pregnancy yoga which is what I did with DD as well.

Sex drive has increased compared to my last pregnancy but maybe it has to do with me not being totally terrified this time (after the 1st trimester of course).

I don't believe any of the boy/girl old wives tales! I've heard and seen so many contradictory instances of boy/girl pregnancies, I only trust the scan :-)

shellsocks Tue 28-May-13 11:18:21

That's brilliant santa grinobviously more for you but we all need that lift I think smile

pink no I don't but as anda said I felt DS very early so not surprising we're not feeling anything yet, just wishful thinking!!

LuckySocks13 Tue 28-May-13 11:46:08

Hi all,
I have a scan at 1.40pm. Feel so sick with worry and nerves. I had to go into work for a bit this morning as couldn't let this family down again. I'm sat waiting to go now and feel so alone sad Will take me an hour to drive there and park so will leave about 12.30pm. This is so horrid.

Pentagon Tue 28-May-13 11:51:24

good luck lucky! I know, waiting for a scan is nerve-racking! Cyber hug. x

Vixjane Tue 28-May-13 12:53:39

great news santa so reassuring to see the scan pics.

Good luck and fingers crossed for yours this afternoon lucky!! we'll be waiting for your update.

jmf prob best just to ring and find out if the results are back. I'm sure they'll understand you're anxious to know the results.

DH and I are going swimming tomorrow - first exercise i've done since bfp!

BumpKitty Tue 28-May-13 12:58:54

Good luck lucky I have everything crossed for you xx

Ace news santa looks like you're going to be having a baby grin

jmf have you called yet! X

GaryBuseysTeeth Tue 28-May-13 13:03:52

Good luck lucky!! <rubs socks>

Congrats Santa on your blob! I put on far more weight than is recommended (lose it all quickly!) and this will be DS2 so I think more weight=boys is right (for me anyhoo).
Very jealous of everyone having sex, my hips are terrible (I can't even sit cross legged on the floor atm) so there's not any action here atm.

JMF, good luck if you choose to call them today, hope they have the results.

Shell, with the buggy you buy a rearseat adaptor so both seats can be used from 6months+.
It's also lighter than most other doubles on the market....had fun in Kiddicare trying to lift some of the buggies they had!

Woman here who has given birth after 19MC, she must be on Cloud 9 atm (and I had a little happy, hormonal, cry for her)!

Hope everyone has a good week, weather is meh!

jmf294 Tue 28-May-13 13:16:50

Well I called and their IT system is down so no results- they said to try late this afternoon. It only took 10 attempts to get through.

Great news Santa.
Thoughts with you Lucky- hope you have good news to report later,

On another matter- I have a rare week off work this week and am at home with the children. My son is driving me mad- his latest thing was to delete all the educational games from the iPad as they are boring. Between that and fighting with his sister- I need to escape!!

BlackholesAndRevelations Tue 28-May-13 15:46:18

Congrats Santa! grin

Thinking of you, lucky- hope all is ok flowers

stitchinline Tue 28-May-13 15:56:12

Santa Great scan news Santa grin

Lucky Thinking of you - hope you have good news to report later

JMF Same goes - hope you get some reassurance soon.

Was very sad to see the news last week, thinking of you baking, aoife and zeux.

Went on saturday to the epu as was just not feeling right and saw a little bean with a hb measuring 8+3 which is spot on for my dates (using my longest cylcle length of 35 days). Now I feel like I've jinxed it as then went ahead and did a massive shop at kiddicare confused
(we are moving OS and have been told to stock up before we go). Not planning to get a double but bought a board for dd and a new carrier.

I didn't feel dd til about 22 weeks, going to be a long wait and lots of frantic dopplering if this one takes that long!

Have my booking in appointment on sunday - yes sunday hmm

Am pretty sure that i'll go to fmc for my nt scan like I did last time but will wait to see what they say on sunday.

LuckySocks13 Tue 28-May-13 16:00:52

Scan showed one live and active baby at 14.3 days. So happy that baby is alive and seems ok. Can't find any reason for bleed although I did have another among of spotting after the scan! Dislike! Just been advised not to over do things and rest when I can. X

GaryBuseysTeeth Tue 28-May-13 16:05:59

Lucky, hurrah for your scan news! Grrh that there doesn't seem to be a reason AND it happened after scan, nothing like being able to relax hmm

stitch, hurrah for your scan too, and a big kiddicare shop <posifrickingtivity vibes> Sunday apt?!

JMF, hope you had more luck getting through & that their IT systems were back up.

Just introduced DS to drawing with marker pens, he only tried to eat a pen once! Then tried to feed me the pen but at least we've got a nice scribble to give to DH on Fathers Day!

Lucky smile so happy to hear everything is well smile

stitch congrats on your scan too.

Nice to see such lovely news, roll on postitifrinctivity!!
Got my scan for the 13th-unlucky date i know, luckily it falls on a friday, phew!

My sex drive is zilch and i never fancy hows your father unless dh initates itgrin, don't think he's impressed!

Gone off bbq food, dh did a barbi yesterday and it made me heave, couldn't eat a morsel of it! Can only seem to eat bread, everything else makes me feel ill, downing dinner is always a struggle!

10 weeks tomorrow, trying to relax as much as i can without worry.

LuckySocks13 Tue 28-May-13 16:25:16

Hurrah indeed for lucky scan news! Long may it continue. Ive jist eaten mu body weight in chocolate to celebrate! 13 is my lucky number smile Marker pen fun sounds great Gary. Very organised making Father's Day card!

GardenWorm Tue 28-May-13 16:29:19

Great scan news Santa and Lucky, glad we are back on the POSIFRICKINTIVITY track!

IBelieveInPink Tue 28-May-13 16:29:58

Oh lucky I'm so pleased! Yaay!

Just had my 16 week appointment (at 15+2). It was very unexciting. She didn't even listen to heartbeat. So I may have played with the doppler when I got home. I know why I have just grown a bump now, baby had moved up! Going to be hard to hide it at work now, might have to share the news before someone outs me by spotting the football I am smuggling!

Vixjane Tue 28-May-13 16:43:55

yay for scans for lucky and stitch!!

jmf hope you get your results soon. have you rung back?

Every month there is a staff project meeting...my Deputy Director only announced i'm leaving (i haven't handed my notice in yet!), they've found a replacement (as they were interviewing for another post) and the new job has nothing to do with my 'other news'. so yeah...cats pretty much out of the bag on both job and baby fronts...thanks for that deputy director...not! shock

Pentagon Tue 28-May-13 17:07:20

congratulations lucky and stitch!

jmf I hope you've rung the FMC back, had some good news and can now enjoy your week off work (I'm jealous)

ibip unless you listen to the heartbeat, midwife appointments are pretty unexciting indeed! But at least you have a doppler!

Vix sorry to hear the way it was announced at work- I bet you're pissed off.

Gary very organised indeed! I don't even know when Father's Day is this year...

jmf294 Tue 28-May-13 18:16:26

I called back but no news until the appointment on Thursday- I was convinced that's because it's bad news and they don't want to tell me over the phone!! Hate the wait but I need to chill out.

Vix- that was rubbish of your director. Do you intend to go back to work after mat leave?
IBIP- hurrah for growing bumps!!

Fab news lucky and stitch!!

Vix - that is so bad!! I would be über pissed off!! Xx

Vixjane Tue 28-May-13 18:31:26

Yep really pissed off! I am planning om going back to work after mat leave but it will be to my new job.my deputy director has asked today if i'm not going to hand my notice in till i receive a contract (which ive already told her is what i'm waiting for!) and she said oh good we can keep you longer then! Not doing them any favours, as soon as i have the info in writing i'll give them 4weeks and thats it!

jmf i think they would have rang you if bad news. Thats what they tend to do with nhs so hopefully no news is good news!

shellsocks Tue 28-May-13 19:59:36

Thanks gary one more question do you know whether the car seat adaptor can be used with the rear seat adaptor? If so it's defo back in the map grin That's an amazing story, she must pinch herself everyday to make sure her baby is actually here smile

Great scan news stitch and well done on the mega shop grin

Fantastic lucky what a relief grin

jmf no news is good news remember smile

BumpKitty Tue 28-May-13 20:09:59

yey lucky that's brilliant, super crap that you had to wait and worry all weekend but at least it's a happy ending smile

excellent news stitch how exciting to be emigrating, will the baby be born in the new place?

jmf i bet it's just policy or they don't actually have the results yet. I think they quite often give bad news over the phone so don't read anything in to it, I know it's easier said than done.

vix I'd be fuming, my old boss came to congratulate me in the middle of the tearoom! I had told my current boss that he could tell people so I suppose it's my own fault. She is so very unmaternal, she said to me 'ooh you're a glutton for punishment aren't you!' erm no not really, this is only my second and DD will be nearly three!

jmf294 Tue 28-May-13 20:14:08

Thanks for the positivity- it's good to share this with people you understand my insane ramblings!
Just need a good nights sleep tonight with sweet dreams- I've been an irritable grumpy cow all day.

Vixjane Tue 28-May-13 21:28:45

That's what we're here for jmf!

I think what makes it even worse was that i specifically said that i did not want an announcement when i told her i was pregnant! Grrrr....anyway must be calm otherwise i'll never get any sleep tonight!

BumpKitty Tue 28-May-13 21:43:06

well vix that's pretty unforgivable then, my ex-boss is a dippy thoughtless bint but your one actually sounds nasty - sorry I'm not helping... think calm thoughts smile

jmf i hope tomorrow flies by for you, you'll be walking on air when you get your good results and all grumpiness will vanish x

GaryBuseysTeeth Tue 28-May-13 22:45:46

Shell, I have no idea sorry! But I've seen the buggy discussed loads over on the pushchair threads so I'm sure someone there maybe able to answer for you? Be warned, they really love their buggies!

Vix, grrrh on your behalf. Sorry she told everyone. Hope you manage some sleep tonight.

Same goes for you Jmf, hope it flies by & the results are in before you know it.

Must dash, I've got a craving for pancakes confused

IBelieveInPink Tue 28-May-13 22:59:20

Mmm pancakes. Damnit Gary, what did you do that for?! wink

Vixjane Wed 29-May-13 10:48:13

Thanks for listening to me rant last night ladies! Decided as soon as i get my contract for the new job i'm gonna hand my notice in and give them the four weeks and nothing more!

Gary hope you enjoyed your pancakes! ibip did you end up with pancakes as well? smile

still thinking of you jmf - hope today flies by!

JanieLovesLuckySocks Wed 29-May-13 11:40:13

hey ladies, it's super hot here today, sadly stuck in a clammy office with no aircon or windows booo.

oh gary now i want pancakes too!! but they're kinda healthy..right?

lucky i'm delighted you got your scan and everything is well phew! how frustrating having to wait though.

santa and stitch brilliant news on your scans too! yay for blobs and beans smile

jmf i hope today goes quickly for you - what time is your appointment at?

vix how insensitive of your boss grrr. i was quite relieved when my boss told everyone (i did tell him to though) as it was less pressure and made this pg feel much more 'real'. at least it was on my terms though.

i've got no clue about prams and buggies...i think i'll start looking after 20 weeks. the researching baffles me already though. think i'll probably ask a few friends what they had and if they would recommend.

i was back at the gym last night, i've turned into such a porker and now that i have more energy i am determined to try to keep a bit fit. i had a consultation with a personal trainer who was really helpful giving me advice on what exercises to do (and what to avoid) and today my thighs wreck from doing squats (with a swiss ball on my back up against a wall - better support etc)

still no loving in our house... but i've had 4 coldsores in 3 weeks which is making DH run a mile anyway. they're really getting me down, i get them on my cheek and on my chin (rather than on my lip) so it looks like i've got a big gross bubblewrap face boooo.

got a scan on friday morning eek (should be 15wks) but haven't felt any tweaks in there recently so i hope bubba is still growing... getting a wee bit scared

LuckySocks13 Wed 29-May-13 12:27:48

More bleeding last night sad

shellsocks Wed 29-May-13 13:06:27

Thanks gary I'll check it out properly after 20w scan smile

Oh no lucky how worrying, have you called the hospital again for advice?

Vixjane Wed 29-May-13 13:28:09

thinking of you lucky - what have docs/epu said? You hear of lots of people that have unexplained bleeding throughout pg and everything's fine. I know that doesn't really help right now though!! x

JanieLovesLuckySocks Wed 29-May-13 13:48:23

oh lucky you poor thing. is it worth contacting the hospital again? as others have said, (i think anda has had bleeds? - apologies if i'm wrong) it can be normal to bleed on and off all the way through, my mum had a mini period kind of bleed every month with both her pregnancies. i'm sure it's panicky for you though. xxx

andadietcoke Wed 29-May-13 15:13:37

Yep Janie definitely 'normal' for me - daily for the last four weeks and on and off before that. I really think it's worth finding someone to check your cervix lucky - at least then you'll know what's causing it. I know not to worry about mine because cervical ectropions aren't associated with anything bad, are common, and the bleeding is something I just have to put up with. I think this is something your GP should be able to do.

IBelieveInPink Wed 29-May-13 18:32:29

Lucky - how are you doing Hun? Hope you okay? Has it stopped yet?

Jmf - thinking of you too. Not long now.... Hope you are holding up okay.

Told work today. Was actually quite fun. Just have to wait and see how long the good reactions last, and when I will start getting the comments!! smile

jmf294 Wed 29-May-13 18:48:04

Lucky- gggrrrr to more bleeding. Have they done a speculum exam to look at your cervix? I had 4 bleeds with my daughter, no cause found but it was horrid so I feel for you.

Thanks for all your wishes for tomorrow- the appointment is at 10 so at least I don't have to wait all day. I'm very very anxious about it, can't see it being a good outcome. I will of course let you know.

Aoife could do with our thoughts, wishes, prayers tomorrow as she's going into hospital. So bloody unfair.

LuckySocks13 Wed 29-May-13 18:58:44

Thoughts and prayers are definitely with Aoife.

Well had some brown discharge following the red earlier with (TMI sorry!) a few stringy bits in. Don't think it's worth phoning them again really but will see how it pans out. The Gyne Dr on Sunday did do an internal examination and feel for my cervix which he said was still long and closed at that point. The exam flipping hurt though and I'm hoping not made things worse. So desperate for things to be ok with my little one. I think I may have a look at the dopplers.
Saw my friend and her little baby today. It's her 2nd child but her first was born sleeping following incompetence at the hospital. If you have lack of movements in pregnancy trust your instincts and stick to your guns and insist. So very sad.

shellsocks Wed 29-May-13 21:22:50

Oh aoife thinking of you tomorrow hmm Hope everything goes as smoothly as possible for you xxx

lucky see how you cope stress wise, a call may put your mind at rest?

I just got out my pregnancy book and had a read and panicked myself. It says I should have put on 10lb now but I am still under my pre PG weight....the weight piled on with DS and my bump is the same size if not a bit bigger? I've got MW on Monday so ill ask but I'm stressing something's will be wrong with baby if I'm not putting on the weight I should?

shellsocks Wed 29-May-13 21:23:25

Sorry jmf meant to say good luck for tomorrow x

GaryBuseysTeeth Wed 29-May-13 21:49:56

Aoife, you're in my thoughts...I'm so sorry. It's desperately unfair. Hope tomorrow is as painless & stressfree as possible. flowers

Lucky, hope everything has settled down?

shell, mention it to the MW but if everything feels ok...hopefully it is. I've put on over the recommended amount every week/month with all 3 pgs (including mc!) but MW's never mention it as a problem!

Janie, I put lemon on my pancakes, which is a fruit=healthy food grin Plus milk AND eggs are good for you! Well done on going to the gym, sorry you have coldsores atm!

JMF, holding out for a bright & early phone call for you so you're not spending the day worrying.

DH started to refer to this one as 'the baby' today, I've been calling it Squatter, never called DS 'the baby' when I was pg...feels weird. I hate acknowledging I'm pg, feels like if I do something will go wrong.
DS stopped moving for the first time after FIL set up the moses basket in our bedroom without asking so I have crazy lady ideas about pg <rocks in corner>

jmf294 Wed 29-May-13 21:51:12

Don't worry about your weight Shell- baby will be taking all it needs from you. Can you try to increase your carbs to help?
I sadly have put on loads of weight!! Heffalump!!!!

Thinking of you aoife sending you my thoughts and prayers. Hope it is as painless as possible xx

I hope you are ok now lucky and i hope the bleeding has settled x

Goodluck for tomorrow jmfsmile

IBelieveInPink Wed 29-May-13 22:21:17

Shell - I'm the same. I have definitely changed shape, bigger boobs, waist goes out not in(!!) but I haven't put on any weight yet? Maybe my muscle is just dissolving into fat smile

Gary - talking about pancakes again!! That's it, I'm making pancakes at the weekend. Yum.

Pentagon Wed 29-May-13 23:34:41

Aoife my thoughts and prayers are with you! flowers

lucky I hope you've managed to remain calm (easier said than done, I know). I'm sure baby's fine but maybe investing in a doppler would be a good idea just for your peace of mind.

jmf I think you'll have good news but I understand how you feel, I was the same. Good luck tomorrow!

shell please don't stress over the lack of weight gain - I don't think it has anything to do with how well the pregnancy is going; and you should consider yourself lucky smile. I won't even weigh myself (I go by clothes...I'm size 10 normally, size 10 in maternity clothes so I'd like to think that I haven't put on much weight...but I probably have wink)

ibip hurray for telling work!

mmmmm, I love pancakes but have eaten like a pig today so can't even think of food at the mo...but pancakes at the weekend sounds fab, that's breakfast sorted!

good night everyone, I'm off to bed!

IBelieveInPink Thu 30-May-13 09:50:41

Jmf - hope you managed to get some sleep. Thinking of you as you must be about to get your news! Do let us know how you get on x

Vixjane Thu 30-May-13 09:53:36

thinking of you today aoife

has the bleeding settled down lucky?

jmf fingers crossed for your results today!

shell i daren't even look at the scales at the moment! I didn't do anything for the first 13 weeks due to fear of it causing mc (silly i know!) so i can tell i've put on just by the feel of my clothes blush

ibip feels weird telling work doesn't it but good as well (all these mixed emotions!)

not alot happening this end...deputy director driving me up the wall about when i'm handing my notice in. Nothing on the bup (our nickname for baby) front, got my 16 wk midwife appointment next Friday but that's it.

shellsocks Thu 30-May-13 10:39:20

I put on so much with DS that I was made up I'd not put any on thinking of having to lose it later, but now that's panicked me! I wasnt sick a lot either, just feeling sick and I am eating well so it's a bit odd confused The bump is bigger again today tho so should be ok...and I'm doppling almost daily at the mo too blush

Good luck jmf smile

jmf294 Thu 30-May-13 12:12:00

Good news from me- harmony results were all good.
They scanned me for almost 1 hour checking everything and all was fine. The attention to detail was amazing and she checked each structure and marker multiple times.
She thinks its a boy- 70-75% accurate at this stage.
I sobbed when she told me the harmony result- I think she thought I was bonkers, but I was so anxious I couldn't breathe properly!
Thanks for all the wishes.
Looking forward to a decent nights sleep as I was awake in the night for 2-3 hours worrying.
Now just got to tell people- wonder what my mother will say when she finds out I am 13 weeks.

IBelieveInPink Thu 30-May-13 12:19:04

Jmf - that's fab news!!! And a blue one too, how exciting! Almost wish I had gone for a harmony test now too smile
Oh I'm so pleased for you, and hope you have a wonderful night sleep tonight!!

Pentagon Thu 30-May-13 12:32:08

Congratulations jmf - so happy for you!!! The 12-week scan at the FMC is so detailed, isn't it? And it's great that you got to find out the sex! I asked but they told me it'd be 60% accurate at this stage so I decided to leave it there (50% vs 60% - not much difference). Now you can relax and sleep!!!

Let us know if you hear from Aoife, I hope she's OK (well, as OK as she can be)

GaryBuseysTeeth Thu 30-May-13 12:51:08

Congrats JMF!! So pleased for you...hurrah on the (likely) boy too!

IBIP, pancakes, pancakes pan? cakepan pan cake! grin
Guess what I'm making when DS goes to bed, I love him lots but I'm not sharing with him.

shell, step away from the Doppler! With DS I checked once a week & honestly I'm only checking with this one everyother week.

Hope everything is calmer now lucky

Thinking of you today Aoife

BumpKitty Thu 30-May-13 13:09:34

That's brilliant jmf I bet you are walking on air smile so pleased for you, please give our love to aoife xxx

shellsocks Thu 30-May-13 13:42:36

That's fab jmf and a boy grin Boys rock!! Have a good rest now tonight phew!

I know, I know, it was once a week at most with DS but I'm so stressed with the PIL situation I'm convinced I'm gonna harm this one so keep having to check....I'm hoping to chill a bit after 20w scan (4w today) sad

JanieLovesLuckySocks Thu 30-May-13 13:44:02

Yay jmf!!! Super dooper news!!!

We have our scan tmro, I'm getting nervous so I Doppled last night and got a wee heartbeat which calmed me down a bit.

I'm feeling like a hefalump, I think it's from not going to the gym and eating cheese, now I'm feeling more energetic I might start cooking healthily. Although I've gone off chicken. DH said 'how am I supposed to cook if you won't eat anything' err...there's food other than chicken

WillSantaComeAgain Thu 30-May-13 14:00:11

That's really exciting jmf. Hopefully you can now begin (in a tiny, measured way) to start getting excited about this pregnancy. Though the bit from 12 weeks to 20 weeks seems to take an age, because nothing much happens.

Just had to wait an hour for blood tests - stupid system here, with the GP/Midwife/Hospital combination. For some reason, despite the fact that the GP surgery is a monster one, and there is a local birthing centre where all the midwives are based, the hospital I want to book into won't accept bloods from them, so you have to go into the hospital itself. Yet if I'd booked into the other nearby hospital, they would accept bloods from my GP surgery. Bonkers, given that the lady who took my bloods just stuck them in the envelope and sent them internally.

Does anyone else still feel sad about their mcs? I was pondering today why I am feeling a bit sad this pg, and I was thinking that its still grief over the mcs. I (and this sounds daft) resent the fact that I'm bloody pregnant, when I should be on maternity leave with an actual baby by now.

Having said that, I am feeling quite positive which is a big improvement. That reassurance scan was t