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£500 grant

(149 Posts)
SammyFirstBaby Mon 25-Mar-13 11:27:47

iv filled it out but my midwife (iv jist moved) is fully booked as she only does appointments on Thursdays and every time I ring the doctor they dont have emergancy appointments. basicly I cant see anyone till at least 3 weeks.
buy then ill be 37 weeks. I need to get my grant stamped to get the buggy and moses basket, I have everything else.
any idea if someone at the hospital could do it? iv got a scan next week as hes a bit small but can they stamp it?
also is there anyway I can get it in to the benefit office quicker and not have to wait weeks? smile

TinkyPeet Mon 25-Mar-13 11:35:03

Can you not drop it in the surgery and just ask that it's stamped when they have a spare minute? X

SammyFirstBaby Mon 25-Mar-13 11:38:11

I asked that but "the doctor doesnt have spare time hence why you couldnt get an appointment"
there not the friendliest of surgery's. hmm

GoSuckEggs Mon 25-Mar-13 11:39:43

tell me about this grant..... never heard of it before

PearlyWhites Mon 25-Mar-13 11:40:17

Yes a hospital midwife can stamp it

StormyBrid Mon 25-Mar-13 11:45:58

Did you print out the form, or have you got a proper copy with official freepost envelope? If you're after a quick turnaround, make sure it's a proper copy - I first applied with a printed out one in early January and finally got the cash today because the first two printed out applications got lost in the post.

Maybe check round the local children's centres, see when they run ante- and post-natal clinics, and pop in and see if a midwife could squeeze you in for two minutes?

Guntie Mon 25-Mar-13 11:51:08

Gosuck this explains it.

laurajane89 Mon 25-Mar-13 14:11:54

I thought that the goverment stopped the grant

Rockchick1984 Mon 25-Mar-13 14:19:03

First time mums on benefits still get it Laura

laurajane89 Mon 25-Mar-13 14:20:38

Oh right, i cant get it then cause im not on benifits sad

curlywurlycremeegg Mon 25-Mar-13 14:22:53

The midwife has to sign to say you have recieved antenatal care. So she may not sign it if you just leave it at reception as being a new patient she will not have seen any of the care documented in your notes. I would just take it to the hospitaland see if anyone there will sign it, as long as they have ssen your notes I can see no issues with that.

GoSuckEggs Tue 26-Mar-13 17:47:26

oh how lovely, only if on benefits. hmm

JakeBullet Tue 26-Mar-13 17:54:31

That's correct...do you have a problem with that GoSuck?

It's for those who literally have no other means of help towards things.....and before anyone makes the comment.....sometimes pregnancy isn't planned and contraception fails etc. Its a help towards the costs and nothing else.

scarlettsmummy2 Tue 26-Mar-13 17:57:15

I think it's great that those in need get it- it's for the babies benefit. Those wanting to do some benefit bashing should walk a day in the shoes of someone claiming them!

laurajane89 Tue 26-Mar-13 18:04:21

I personally think that people who arent on benefits should also get some kind of help aswell because having a baby is expensive and pregnancies arent always planned

Well I suppose that what your wages are for??

Being on benefits means you have the bare minimum to live on.
Or did you think it was all 60inch Telly's and iPads FFS?

Lj8893 Tue 26-Mar-13 18:09:08

I can see how irritating it is for those not on benefits though.....£500 would be extremely helpful for us, yet because we both work full time we don't qualify for any kind of benefit, even though we are both of minimum wage (and will struggle lots when i am only receiving statutory maternity pay).

Please don't get me wrong I'm certainly not "benefit bashing" just explaining that even those who don't get benefits will still struggle immensely for baby's stuff!

scarlettsmummy2 Tue 26-Mar-13 18:11:44

Those on minimum wage will be entitled to tax credits and possibly housing benefit and child benefit. It's obviously very hard to live on minimum wage, but even harder to live on £80 a week- the amount someone on benefits and child allowance will have.

Flisspaps Tue 26-Mar-13 18:13:14

I disagree laura.

I got the £190 grant when having DD (given to all pregnant women at that time) and we didn't need it, we weren't on a particularly high income then.

Didn't get it with DS, income had reduced considerably, still managed without it.

A universal payment costs too much, and means that many people get the payment who don't need it.

willoughboobs Tue 26-Mar-13 18:13:34

Not everyone on benefits gets it. Only for your first baby, even if your oldest child is 16 your expected to have saved everything from that birth to use. So it's not many people on benefits who gets it either so it will be a struggle just as much for them aswell.

Lj8893 Tue 26-Mar-13 18:15:19

Once the child is here and I am only working part time we will be entitled to tax credits but that is all, which will just make up to what we are earning now.

I'm not very clued up on benefits etc but how does one afford to pay rent and bills on just £80 a week?

With great difficulty.

We were on benefits for 4 months when me and DH got made redundant in the same week. It was horrific. I hated every minute of it. We were skint.

That's why I don't understand why people think it's an easy life.

Lj8893 Tue 26-Mar-13 18:20:37

Oh please don't get me wrong I don't think it's an easy life at all!!

However I think it's all the stories in the media that make some think its an easy life.

scarlettsmummy2 Tue 26-Mar-13 18:22:06

Their rent wouldn't come out of the £80 but everything else would! Horrific

GoSuckEggs Tue 26-Mar-13 19:30:25

As someone who would be entitled to absolutly nothing if/when i have a baby, it is quite irritating to have to pay out a HUGE chunk of wages and work hard for that pleasure.

scarlettsmummy2 Tue 26-Mar-13 19:36:34

Gosuckeggs- after the day I have had you really don't want to get into an argument with me about this!!!

Lj8893 Tue 26-Mar-13 19:38:05

Gosuckeggs, we will only be entitled to tax credits when the baby is here......this has no reflection of how hard both myself and my partner work!!! We both work incredibly hard, and my partner works 6 days a week from 10-10.

scarlettsmummy2 Tue 26-Mar-13 19:39:04

No idea, no concept of reality, and incredibly insulting.

Booyhoo Tue 26-Mar-13 19:46:59

OP is it possible to borrow a moses basket from someone in the event of you giving birth before you get your grant through? buggy/pram isn't really essential and you could do without til the money comes through but a moses basket sort of is (unless you already have a cot?) so if you could borrow until the money comes through it would at least put your mind at ease.

GoSuckEggs Tue 26-Mar-13 19:55:21

alright scarlettsmummy2 hmm tough day at work?

Lj8893 Tue 26-Mar-13 20:10:07

Oh wow!!! Tad rude don't you think?!

scarlettsmummy2 Tue 26-Mar-13 20:14:34

Yes, a bloody tough day. Person one- the mother of 17 year old who has been continually let down by the system, who had me in tears by 10am as there was absolutely nothing I could do to help her and she was trying her very best but it simply wouldn't be enough and had to send them back to their life on £80 a week for the two of them, 17 year old two just out of care and didn't have a baldy clue about anything and about to enter own tenancy on £55 a week and terrified that his inept mother may reappear and emotionally blackmail him in to support her to, and 18 year old three just out of custody after eight months for a serious crime and having to sleep on grandmothers floor in a workless household and no support whatsoever, not a qualification to his name and again not a clue and limited hope of holding down a job. And then some idiot bemoans having to pay tax to support the most vulnerable in society, clearly having no idea what life can be like.

Piemother Tue 26-Mar-13 20:16:36

Scarlettsmummy - wine/brew

Gosuckeggs - you sound delightful

scarlettsmummy2 Tue 26-Mar-13 20:18:09

I've went for a bath and an ice cream and then 'the syndicate' on BBC one instead!

MariahHairy Tue 26-Mar-13 20:42:03

OP, i got my moses basket from ebay for £2. they tend to go quiet cheap on ebay. and my pram was only £30 on ebay. both used but in really good condition. it is worth a look. also, did you try freecycle?

Bluemonkeyspots Tue 26-Mar-13 20:47:00

I would put a post on your Facebook page asking if any friends/family had Moses basket/pram for sale (let's face it most of us hoard the stuff as we can't bear to get rid off it) and hopefully someone one will offer you shot or sell you it cheap.

If some cheeky bugger does try to sell you something at a ridiculous price you can just say that someone private mailed you with one you have said yes to but thanks anyway.

laurajane89 Tue 26-Mar-13 20:56:45

Im sorry if it came across that i was being a benefit basher because im really not i just meant i think everyone should have a little bit of help thats all

scarlettsmummy2 Tue 26-Mar-13 20:59:38

Well why mention your tax then! It comes across as begrudging.

Lj8893 Tue 26-Mar-13 21:02:28

I don't think Laurajane did mention tax scarlettsmummy?

laurajane89 Tue 26-Mar-13 21:03:18

I didnt say anythink about tax

scarlettsmummy2 Tue 26-Mar-13 21:05:41

Apologies- meant Gosuckeggs

expatinscotland Tue 26-Mar-13 21:06:31

'I personally think that people who arent on benefits should also get some kind of help aswell because having a baby is expensive and pregnancies arent always planned '

How is that anyone's fault but your own?

Lj8893 Tue 26-Mar-13 21:06:53

The way I have read all these posts Laurajane feels the same as I, that absolutely the grant is a great thing for those on benefits with very little else to help but its a shame that us on low incomes yet not quite low enough for any sort of help/benefit can't claim the grant, but that's the way our government is after all.

laurajane89 Tue 26-Mar-13 21:12:25

Yes thats what i meant

Lj8893 Tue 26-Mar-13 21:15:37

Expat.....are you implying that anybody who isn't fortunate to earn a household income of at least £35k should at all costs avoid pregnancy?

Booyhoo Tue 26-Mar-13 21:18:21

i borrowed my moses basket both times. they were both only in it for such a short time (i dont think they were in it after 12/14 weeks as they got too big) so for me it wasn't worth buying one. i was working both times but every penny counts so i couldn't justify spending money on something that would get so little use. buggys that are from birth recline fully and are fine for day time naps for newborns as they dont tend to nap for hours at a time (IME anyway) and then the cot in your room for night time.

scarlettsmummy2 Tue 26-Mar-13 21:18:22

Are Laura Jane and LJ the same person?

Yes, it would be nice, but obviously it should be the poorest who take from the pot first in this instance.

Lj8893 Tue 26-Mar-13 21:22:23

Lol no I can assure you we are not!
I absolutely agree with you on that, I wouldn't feel right taking anything from the pot knowing someone worse off than myself wasent receiving the same or more. Was just trying to clarify what Laurajane was saying as it started to seem she was getting attacked for something she had said that had been mis perceived.

laurajane89 Tue 26-Mar-13 21:22:53

No we arent the same person

expatinscotland Tue 26-Mar-13 21:24:39

'Expat.....are you implying that anybody who isn't fortunate to earn a household income of at least £35k should at all costs avoid pregnancy?'

Eh? Where did you come out with that figure? I don't see why people should get money just for being pregnant, no other basis.

laurajane89 Tue 26-Mar-13 21:25:34

I completely agree with you on that scarlettsmummy2, i wasnt saying you shouldnt have the grant at all i was saying i feel that everyone should have a little bit of help but obviously not as much help as the people who need it more

Lj8893 Tue 26-Mar-13 21:29:16

I worked out a figure that I believed i would feel safe and financially secure if that were my household income.

Sorry I perceived your post wrong, I agree with you that people shouldn't recieve monetary help just by being pregnant, but do think that perhaps workers on a particully low income yet not on benefits should also receive some sort of grant, although perhaps not the same amount as for those on the bare minimum of benefits.

laurajane89 Tue 26-Mar-13 21:33:04

Lj that is what i was trying to say

GoSuckEggs Tue 26-Mar-13 22:09:24

exactly, 'oh your pregnant, here have £500!'

Lj8893 Tue 26-Mar-13 22:11:35

That's not what any of us are saying gosuckeggs!!!

scarlettsmummy2 Tue 26-Mar-13 22:15:12

Actually it's 'here is £500 to provide for your baby as you are unable to do so yourself'. Would you rather the baby slept in a drawer?

Lj8893 Tue 26-Mar-13 22:19:03

Slept in a drawer, until they're too big and then where?

Not everyone is fortunate enough to be able to buy these things without a thought, unfortunately the world doesn't work like that gosuckeggs.

GoSuckEggs Tue 26-Mar-13 22:32:16

pity no one says 'here is £500, because you have worked and paid taxs all your life, enjoy'

'here is £500 to provide for your baby as you are unable to do so yourself' - shouldnt you consider this before hand? hmm

Booyhoo Tue 26-Mar-13 22:37:33

"pity no one says 'here is £500, because you have worked and paid taxs all your life, enjoy' "

benefits aren't there as a reward. they're there for those who cant for whatever reason support themselves just at that moment in time.

and actually you haven't paid taxes all your life. you have paid them since you were 18 (if you worked since then?)

how do you know that someone who is receiving a maternity grant hasn't worked and paid taxes for just as long or longer than you?

Lj8893 Tue 26-Mar-13 22:38:02

Pregnancy happens in all sorts of situations, and people end up on benefits for all sorts of reasons! Some people work their whole life, yet redundancies and job losses happen and then they end up on benefits and struggle to find a new job. Are they meant to say oh dear I'm pregnant and lost my job, but no I won't take any benefits!

Some people work but are on very low incomes and therefore receive benefits such as working tax credits, income support, housing benefit.....are they meant to just struggle and never have have a child just because they aren't fortunate enough to be in a higher paid job?!

scarlettsmummy2 Tue 26-Mar-13 22:39:07

Stick on bbc NI now, 953 on sky, and come back to me.

GoSuckEggs Tue 26-Mar-13 22:39:46

I think if you can not afford a child at that particular moment, then no you shouldn't have one.

Booyhoo Tue 26-Mar-13 22:41:28

so what? leave it at the hospital?

Lj8893 Tue 26-Mar-13 22:43:41

Not all pregnancies are planned!!!!!!!

I have pcos, I didn't think I was ever going to have opportunity to become pregnant, yet here I am. And yes it will be a struggle, and we will have to claim some sort of working and child at credits but I am not going to feel guilty for having a child at what might not be "the right time" as "the right time" may never have happened!!!

GoSuckEggs- that shade of green is vile. I hope you never have the 'luxury' of having to claim benefits, or falling pregnant and losing your job. It's shit.

I'm sure you'll find having children a real doddle on £80.

Get a grip.

GoSuckEggs Tue 26-Mar-13 22:47:01

of course not booyhoo, people need to start behaving like adults and take steps to ensure they are not at risk in the first place.

GoSuckEggs Tue 26-Mar-13 22:48:07

No that wont ever be a problem for me. thanks for your concern

Lj8893 Tue 26-Mar-13 22:49:36

Behaving like adults?! And how is that.....the way you are behaving now? I agree with wewereherefirst, I really do hope you are never in the situation of losing your job and struggling to find one of the same income, you clearly wouldn't cope.

Lj8893 Tue 26-Mar-13 22:50:19

Well good for you, you do realise your one of the lucky ones in this current state?

wannabeEostregoddess Tue 26-Mar-13 22:51:29

GoSuckEggs...

What should I have done then, in your opinion?

DP signed a 3 year contract at £21k per year. We decided to ttc. The second month I found out I was pregnant. That same week the company restructured and he was made redundant. Contract? Not worth a damn.

Should I have had an abortion?

Booyhoo Tue 26-Mar-13 22:51:33

who are you talking about eggs? because so far OP hasn't said whether or not she was on benefits when she conceived. being on benefits is not a permanent state of being. people can be on benefits for 3 months and then never again for the rest of their lives. what makes you think all maternity grants are given to people who conceived whilst on benefits?

Oh and FWIW, this used to be a universal benefit. You have to thank the Tories for stopping is as you rich people GoSuckEggs, don't need it. What with those high horses you have

Lj8893 Tue 26-Mar-13 22:54:57

I also hope that your future child/children don't ever find themselves in the situation of being jobless and having to claim benefits, would you judge them in the same way?

expatinscotland Tue 26-Mar-13 22:55:59

'Oh and FWIW, this used to be a universal benefit. You have to thank the Tories for stopping is as you rich people GoSuckEggs, don't need it. What with those high horses you have '

No, it was not. The Health in Pregnancy grant of £190 was.

it was in 2006 with me Expat.

expatinscotland Tue 26-Mar-13 23:03:51

SureStart grants have never been universal. Health in Pregnancy was.

GoSuckEggs Tue 26-Mar-13 23:04:02

any future children of mine need not worry about that.

'I really do hope you are never in the situation of losing your job and struggling to find one of the same income, you clearly wouldn't cope.' - I actually have just handed in my resignation at work. I shall be ok for quite a while yet. i realise i am fortunate for that to be the case.

expatinscotland Tue 26-Mar-13 23:05:30

I got one in 2005. It has never been universal and always means-tested. It used to be, however, that a person could get one for each child. Now, it is only for the 1st children.

Booyhoo Tue 26-Mar-13 23:06:49

"I actually have just handed in my resignation at work. I shall be ok for quite a while yet."

massive massive difference between handing in your notice through your own choice having looked at your own figures and worked out you can survive without the wage and actually being told you no longer have a job. huge difference. you cannot compare the two situations at all.

expatinscotland Tue 26-Mar-13 23:07:32

It is available to those in work, which I was at the time, in receipt of Working Tax Credit with disability element in the award, Child Tax Credit at a rate higher than family element.

Lj8893 Tue 26-Mar-13 23:08:01

How do you know none of your children will have to worry about that? And how do you know you will be ok forever, what happens when your not ok financially anymore.

I'm happy you realise how fortunate you are, many arnt that fortunate. I come from a working class background and my parents did struggle bringing myself and my brother up, I don't feel I suffered for it though.

Myself and my partner are a working class family, and yes we will struggle, does not make us bad parents though. And we won't feel guity to claiming what we are perfectly entitled to claim, we both work and are not in a position to earn more than we do, not our faults.

I was led to believe it was universal. Apologies Expat.

GoSuckEggs Tue 26-Mar-13 23:12:11

How do you know none of your children will have to worry about that? And how do you know you will be ok forever, what happens when your not ok financially anymore. - it is quite, quite never likely to happen. I can not think of a single situation where financial security is a problem.

'we both work and are not in a position to earn more than we do, not our faults' - there is always room for improvement, people can always earn more.

MiniPenguinMaker Tue 26-Mar-13 23:13:00

It is a privilege to be in a position to be earning enough to pay taxes.

Obviously we all have our struggles, but worklessness is depressing and sad and newborn babies should ideally get what they need for as decent-as-possible a start to life. I am glad my taxes have gone to pay for it and I'm quite appalled that anyone, especially a mother or mum-to-be, could possibly begrudge it to somebody in a worse position than themselves.

Lj8893 Tue 26-Mar-13 23:14:46

I am in a job where the highest I can earn is about £21k.....that is a long whole off yet and also an extremely risky business where job cuts are rife and promotions extremely scarce. My partner is in a similar buisness.

So are you saying that I shouldn't have got pregnant until we are in the position, if ever in that position?!

Oh GoSuckEggs. Please give us the expert career advice that is obviously cost free as those on low incomes cannot afford to spend more than they are already.

I'm really interested in how society will work when all the Low/NMW employees are no more. Who will do those jobs?

Lj8893 Tue 26-Mar-13 23:15:40

Mini penguin, that's lovely, and exactly how I feel.

Booyhoo Tue 26-Mar-13 23:17:25

gosuckeggs if you are so well off that you know for sure your children will never have to worry about money then what the hell are you doing getting jealous over a one off £500 payment to someone who needs it? you clearly dont or never will need it. i dont understand why you would want it as a 'reward' for paying your taxes. you dont need it- by a long shot by the sounds of it!

GoSuckEggs Tue 26-Mar-13 23:18:14

you said it...

why that profession if it is ' extremely risky business where job cuts are rife and promotions extremely scarce'?

Lj8893 Tue 26-Mar-13 23:18:45

And by the way I do pay taxes, as does my partner and thoses taxes are noticeable on our wages. Yet I don't begrudge my taxes going to people less fortunate than myself, I'm shocked that somebody who clearly doesn't need to worry about the amount of taxes they pay does begrudge it.

wannabeEostregoddess Tue 26-Mar-13 23:19:16

If the OP is still reading

any idea if someone at the hospital could do it? iv got a scan next week as hes a bit small but can they stamp it?

Yes, your consultant (I assume you will see a consultant if hes small but a MW coukd do it too) at the hospital can stamp it!

Lj8893 Tue 26-Mar-13 23:19:34

Because I love my job! And I have neither the qualifications or experience to do anything that is less of a risk?!

GoSuckEggs Tue 26-Mar-13 23:20:10

It is not jealousy, it is fed up for paying some people to have kids.

for once instead of us having to give, give, give it would make a nice change.

I wonder, someone who will not be paying tax soon gets so het up about something to help a low income household.

Your taxes also pay for hospitals/police/fire services etc...

Lj8893 Tue 26-Mar-13 23:20:30

And not only do I love my job but I'm very good at it!!!

GoSuckEggs Tue 26-Mar-13 23:21:50

there are plenty of jobs that are less risky and need little or no qualifications! - i do agree you need to at least like your job though

Lj8893 Tue 26-Mar-13 23:22:50

Please name me some options and I shall consider them

lots of essential jobs are very poorly paid, who will do those jobs?

GoSuckEggs Tue 26-Mar-13 23:23:39

because my DH will still be paying. you have to pay all kinds of tax on money, not just wages.

they do pay for hospitals/police etc, but they also pay for less desirable things too

GoSuckEggs Tue 26-Mar-13 23:25:06

the railway pays very well considering, and as anyone who commutes knows, they have a VERY strong union so job security is very high!

Booyhoo Tue 26-Mar-13 23:25:10

"there are plenty of jobs that are less risky and need little or no qualifications"

yeah, and only like 1 applicant for each of tose jobs right? hmm

noblegiraffe Tue 26-Mar-13 23:25:27

The money is for the baby. It might grow up to pay taxes if it has a decent start in life.

GoSuckEggs Tue 26-Mar-13 23:25:36

i shan't answer that Wewere!! grin

Thankfully we are not in a country where the public choose what is desirable or not, we live in a society that helps people on hard times.

It's not all benefit claimants have 100 babies to get multi millions in benefits, but you do know they are the minority and most claimants have fallen on hard times.

Lj8893 Tue 26-Mar-13 23:28:03

And if i don't live near a large enough station to employ staff?

Booyhoo Tue 26-Mar-13 23:29:23

"less desirable things" hmm

Dare you to answer GoSuck <hunts for pitchfork> wink

Lj8893 Tue 26-Mar-13 23:30:22

And surprisingly a close friend of mine has only just managed to escape redundancy and she works for a rail line.

GoSuckEggs Tue 26-Mar-13 23:31:43

you are only just going for pitchfork?! bit slow! grin

wannabeEostregoddess Tue 26-Mar-13 23:31:51

Sometimes rich womens DHs shag the nanny. Then they have to claim benefits too.

You are leaving yourself in a very precarious position GoSuckEggs.

It was too cold to get the pitchfork before <brave> grin

GoSuckEggs Tue 26-Mar-13 23:34:41

how very presumptuous of you, wannabeEostregoddess.

firstly, why on earth would i want a nanny bringing up my children?
secondly, why assume that it is my DH that has the money?

GoSuckEggs Tue 26-Mar-13 23:35:07

grin @Wewere

Lj8893 Tue 26-Mar-13 23:36:53

My child will have to be in childcare, not with a nanny but still not with me so I can work, because I haven't the luxury of giving up my work because I am having a child.

Booyhoo Tue 26-Mar-13 23:38:02

i've noticed a trend over the last few days of posters coming onto threads about benefits, insisting that there are great paying jobs and that people just need to go and get them, and then it turns out the poster themselves is not working, being supported by a DH and is adamant that they are so financially secure they and their children will never ever fall on hard times and need to make use of the welfare safety net.

GoSuckEggs Tue 26-Mar-13 23:41:00

NO WHERE HAVE I SAID THAT I AM DEPENDANT ON MY DH.

i have noticed a trend of people assuming the man is the one with money hmm

Booyhoo Tue 26-Mar-13 23:43:37

neither did i. stop shouting.

GoSuckEggs Tue 26-Mar-13 23:44:51

oh right, ok booyhoo. hmm

wannabeEostregoddess Tue 26-Mar-13 23:45:51

Shouting is so uncouth.

Lj8893 Tue 26-Mar-13 23:46:13

So if you are the one with the money then how are you affording to give up your job?

Booyhoo Tue 26-Mar-13 23:46:48

i said being supported. unless your DH keeps all his salary to himself?

wannabeEostregoddess Tue 26-Mar-13 23:49:21

If you have enough independent money to leave your job and have no support financially from your DH then what makes you think you have the right to moan about where his taxes go?

Is he as lacking in empathy as you?

Lydia161290 Wed 27-Mar-13 00:24:05

Gosuckeggs

Look at you hiding behind a computer screen. What a big person you are.

GoSuckEggs Wed 27-Mar-13 17:35:16

actually lydia i went to bed. hmm ok with you?

Lj8893 Wed 27-Mar-13 19:47:17

Oh gosh you really are quite irritating.

GoSuckEggs Thu 28-Mar-13 15:08:51

Oh gosh, you only earn 21k.

Lj8893 Thu 28-Mar-13 18:35:26

Ha I wish I earned 21k but no I'm a pauper clearly on £12k!

GoSuckEggs Thu 28-Mar-13 19:08:13

£12K shock

FairyJen Thu 28-Mar-13 19:14:51

Op not getting into debate just wanted to say if you do get a secondhand Moses basket please remember you will need a NEW mattress for your baby. They are very cheap on eBay, markets and Indy baby shops etc.

Lj8893 Thu 28-Mar-13 20:23:38

Yes, £12k, problem?

PandaWatch Thu 28-Mar-13 20:59:51

As someone who has paid taxes since the age of 16 and works bloody hard for the salary from which those taxes are paid, I would be outraged to find myself, or anyone in my position, eligible for a £500 payout for having a baby on some sort of point of principle. The whole point of the benefit system is to help those in need - the grant isn't some sort of congratulatory bonus for giving birth.

To suggest there should be some general handout whether you need it or not (and I mean really need it, not just that it would make life easier) is absurd.

5eggstremelychocaletymadeggs Thu 28-Mar-13 21:03:01

To those who currently aren't getting benefits but are on a low income and will be entitled to tax credits once baby is born you can claim this £500 grant up to 12wks after baby is born so depending on how much tax credits you are entitled to you may be then entitled to the grant.

So get your tax credit claim in asap and then the claim for the grant.

5eggstremelychocaletymadeggs Thu 28-Mar-13 21:04:40

In fact I would Gert the grant for and get it filled in as much as you can and stamped by Dr/midwife so you just have to put the babies details etc and you tax credit details once you have them. Not everyone on tax creditors is entitled to the grant but some are so worth applying smile

Lj8893 Thu 28-Mar-13 21:34:30

Thanks 5egg that's really beneficial to know.

GoSuckEggs Thu 28-Mar-13 21:37:47

No, not a problem for me!

Lj8893 Thu 28-Mar-13 21:39:02

Good smile

GoSuckEggs Thu 28-Mar-13 21:47:00

but 12K! shock

Lj8893 Thu 28-Mar-13 21:48:16

I don't understand why it's such an issue?

Lj8893 Thu 28-Mar-13 21:51:28

Many people earn the same as I, its not really such an abnormal think is it?

KayHunt Thu 28-Mar-13 21:55:07

I earned £12,000 working on a newspaper. It is very common to earn that amount sadly.

Lj8893 Thu 28-Mar-13 21:58:03

And yet its still more than minimum wage which is even sadder.

GoSuckEggs Thu 28-Mar-13 22:13:34

it really is bugger all and quite terrible that people work so hard all day for it!

wannabeEostregoddess Thu 28-Mar-13 22:18:24

I worked in retail management, running a store, managing staff etc etc on my feet all day taking shit off customers and shit off head office for £13k.

Low wages are no joke. We were taking more than that a week.

Lj8893 Thu 28-Mar-13 22:27:24

Sure is, and this is why we will be entitled to tax credits when baby is here. We will seriously struggle without them.

Lj8893 Thu 28-Mar-13 22:28:43

Wannabe......snap!!

forgetmenots Fri 29-Mar-13 15:32:04

Bloody hell.

Well done for turning a request for help and information into a left/right wing debate about benefits.

The people making noises about those receiving grants should be ashamed, no wonder MN has the reputation it does. A bit more support for other mums would be nice without all the political carping.

Fakebook Fri 29-Mar-13 15:55:18

GoSuckEggs, why are you shocked some people earn 12k? You really are an idiot to be ignorant of the state of affairs in this country right now. However, as most trolls go, you're obviously a sad lonely little person, sitting in a damp ridden flat living on benefits and trying to make others feel bad because of your misery. Sad. Now I suggest if you have nothing worthwhile to add to this topic, then jog on.

OP, I hope you got your forms signed. When I got pregnant with dd we were newly married and not exactly on our feet. That £500 grant helped us enormously with the cot and pushchair (both of which are still being used 6 years later).

GoSuckEggs Fri 29-Mar-13 22:22:27

troll? hmm yes ok

Lj8893 Fri 29-Mar-13 22:48:07

It's comments like that that make people think you are a troll gosuckeggs. You have managed to wind quite a few people up on here, intentionally or accidental I don't know. But people ask you questions to help explain your opinions/posts and you don't actually help yourself by answering and/or debating maturely and professionally.

I too am baffled at the fact you are so suprised that people actually earn £12k!

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