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Anyone not washing all their newborn stuff?

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Ohdeargod1 Fri 22-Mar-13 21:18:28

DC2 due shortly. I washed all of DS1s new stuff - the baby grows in packets. This time I don't really want to! I'm going to do the blankets. What is everyone else doing?

Flisspaps Fri 22-Mar-13 21:20:20

I didn't with DS.

Good job. All the newborn stuff had to be returned, he was too bloody big to wear it and we had to get 0-3 instead.

Dannilion Fri 22-Mar-13 21:28:21

I've washed all the 2nd hand stuff as it had gathered a fair bit of dust. Haven't bought any newborn things as I'm convinced she won't fit into it (90th centile at last growth scan).

Cannot be bothered to wash any 0-3 stuff. I guess I'll do it when she's here if I need to.

dizzy77 Fri 22-Mar-13 21:30:30

We did during that blissful period of pre-baby maternity leave. We then had to buy so much stuff in a hurry when DS was too small for the newborn sizes (6lb 13oz so not an utter tiddler) that all went on straight out of the packet.

IwishIwasmoreorganised Fri 22-Mar-13 21:32:47

I did most of ds1's things, but I don't remember ds2 having anything new so nothing was washed especially for him!

ChippingInIsEggceptional Fri 22-Mar-13 21:34:18

Why would you not?

There are so many chemicals involved in the process, why would you knowingly put them on your newborn?

elQuintoConyo Fri 22-Mar-13 21:37:22

We washed everything, second-hand and new. DS was HUGE so skipped all the newborn things and we couldn't take them back, doh!
You could always do a combination of both: wash a couple of newborn bits and if DC ends up not needing it, you can still take the other stuff back.

Ohdeargod1 Fri 22-Mar-13 21:38:54

Is there Chipping? Or is that a myth?

I didn't - I had enough to do without washing clean clothes!

MortifiedAdams Fri 22-Mar-13 21:42:47

I never wash.anything new.

Ohdeargod1 Fri 22-Mar-13 21:42:53

They seem so soft and nice when they've not been washed yet...

Weissdorn Fri 22-Mar-13 21:46:39

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DieWilde13 Fri 22-Mar-13 21:48:12

New clothes really are full of chemicals and they are dirty!
I used to unpack clothes delivery trucks and fill up stock in C&A a big clothes shop and I was always filthy after work.

I would never wear anything unwashed, let alone put unwashed "new" stuff on my newborn!

Abra1d Fri 22-Mar-13 21:49:59

Well blow me, ANOTHER thing MN has taught me I should feel guilty about not doing. Didn't wash new clothes for either of my newborns.

ChippingInIsEggceptional Fri 22-Mar-13 21:53:07

Yes - they really are, it's not an old wives tale. They are full of processing chemicals and that's without the people who have handled them etc

It takes barely any effort to put them in the washing machine and then onto an airer - it's hardly labour intensive or time consuming these days smile

I'm far less bothered about my own clothes grin - though I never wear underwear until it has been washed.

ravenAK Fri 22-Mar-13 21:53:14

Never occurred to me to wash new stuff!

Second hand, yes, to get the fusty charity shop smell out. & hand me downs if they had been stored for a while.

Doesn't washing powder = more chemicals, anyway?

ChippingInIsEggceptional Fri 22-Mar-13 21:54:40

Weisdorn - really? You don't care about harsh chemicals on a newborns skin? Why not? Would you pour bleach on it? Loo cleaner? Oven cleaner?

WestieMamma Fri 22-Mar-13 21:55:28

Is there Chipping? Or is that a myth?

Nope not a myth. My husband is a chemistry prof, he told me that they're sprayed with various chemicals during manufacture to ensure they look and feel their best when they reach the shops. The main one being formaldehyde which is toxic and can be absorbed through the skin. He works with noxious nasties all day and isn't phased by them at all, but he's adamant that all the baby textiles get washed before use. That's all the incentive I need to do it.

sjupes Fri 22-Mar-13 21:56:02

I'd never heard of this till my sister had dnephew and she washed EVERYTHING .. i didn't do it with dd before i knew or ds once i did.

I doubt i'll do it for this brat either grin

my poor kids

mrsbungle Fri 22-Mar-13 21:56:44

I always wash new clothes - well not always my own but always the kids. Formaldehyde is nasty.

Are you kidding me? It's the only time it's ever worn uncreased and ironed.

Weissdorn Fri 22-Mar-13 22:02:44

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Ohdeargod1 Fri 22-Mar-13 22:06:08

Surely if it were extremely toxic they'd be warnings - wash before putting on baby? Or are there?!

Abra1d Fri 22-Mar-13 22:08:31

Why wouldn't reputable retailers like John Lewis or M&S warn you very plainly to wash their own brand newborn stuff if it was necessary to get rid of all these highly toxic chemicals? Why would they risk their reputations?

ChippingInIsEggceptional Fri 22-Mar-13 22:08:42

You wont always see a reaction - that doesn't mean the chemicals aren't affecting them.

Starlight grin

ChippingInIsEggceptional Fri 22-Mar-13 22:10:01

Just think about it. If YOU were selling something would YOU be the one to put that on your labels? ... and watch all the consumers buy from your competitors. Until they are compelled to do so, they wont.

Weissdorn Fri 22-Mar-13 22:11:45

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I didn't.
I have never washed any of hers before wearing for the first time..
she suffers from eczema too,and it has made no difference.

Abra1d Fri 22-Mar-13 22:13:33

The chemicals you refer to are specifically listed as banned in M&S clothes for children, anyway.

corporate.marksandspencer.com/documents/how_we_do_business/environmental_and_chemical_%20policy_module1.pdf

IsSpringSprangedYet Fri 22-Mar-13 22:16:24

I remember seeing a bit on a pack of baby gros saying 'just because I'm new, doesn't mean I'm clean! Wash me at...'

I always wash anything and everything.

of course there are chemicals involved, but they're only bad if you react to them.
it's exactly the same as if you react to soap powder or wool or man-made fabrics.
they're not inherently bad chemicals.

Havingkitties Fri 22-Mar-13 22:27:38

Although I wash second hand stuff (but mostly to get rid of the overly floral scent of someone else's washing) I do not and never will wash new clothes. Don't you think there would be a warning in clothes to wash them if it was such a problem?

There are probably chemicals on clothes...but then there are chemicals on everything. Did you know that chemicals actually make up the vast majority of everything around us, both naturally occurring and man made? (shock horror!) They have even made a periodic table full of these elements that make up the chemicals, and scientists have known about them for years? There I've let the cat out if the bagshock

Come on, let's not push mummy guilt anymore.

ChippingInIsEggceptional Fri 22-Mar-13 22:29:06

U&A - not it's not only bad for you if you 'react' to it. Have you considered that if you did wash the clothes her eczema might not be so bad?

No, of course formaldehyde isn't an inherently bad chemical to be absorbing into your skin hmm

ChippingInIsEggceptional Fri 22-Mar-13 22:31:35

God how naive are some people?

MintyyAeroEgg Fri 22-Mar-13 22:33:12

But why on earth wouldn't you wash it? What is it going to be, in all honesty? One extra wash! One extra wash for your precious new born baby! If you cannot be arsed to do this then you are a genuine lazy fekker imvho.

BabyHMummy Fri 22-Mar-13 22:34:43

i have washed everything - you never know who has pawed at stuff in the shops etc!

but its all a question of personal choice. if you know where stuff has come from then that should be fine

UnrequitedSkink Fri 22-Mar-13 22:36:11

Am astonished - sorry, I'm normally very unconfrontational, but how difficult is it to stick a load of tiny baby clothes through a wash and then hang them on an airer? It's the first act of love you can perform for your newborn - why WOULDN'T you want to do that?

I rarely wash new clothes if they're for me. But a newborn is so tiny and defenceless, their skin is seven times thinner than an adult's. Gah. I despair.

whethergirl Fri 22-Mar-13 22:39:30

I always wash new stuff, think it's quite yuk to put it on straight out of the packet, would never give it a second thought for a newborn. I've been inside some of these huge factories where these get made, it's quite common that these places are full of mice and cockroaches.

You can't be arsed? To put some clothes in a washing machine, take them out and let them dry?? TBH I think it's more bother to start a thread and respond to replies on MN than it is to chuck a load in.

DewDr0p Fri 22-Mar-13 22:39:31

Yes I washed everything. I actually quite enjoyed it (and I am no domestic goddess), part of nesting for me.

sjupes Fri 22-Mar-13 22:45:36

Bugger. We find out the sex next week - once i buy clothes i'm banging them in the wash dp will i don't do washing these days and i'll be washing the other two's new clothes in future too.

I feel bloody awful. Wee shites they are but i'll not affect their dodgy skin any more than necessary - ds in an excema fiend..

Ohdeargod1 Fri 22-Mar-13 22:56:32

God some of you can be bloody rude sometimes. I didn't say I couldn't be bothered/arsed - I said I didn't WANT to as they feel so lovely and new from the packet. Clearly I would wash stuff that's been manhandled in the shops.

Jeez. First act of love?! That's pushing it.

chipping it makes no difference.she doesn't react to clothes.

Ohdeargod1 Fri 22-Mar-13 22:58:40

And just to prove that I love my unborn child I managed to find the energy to put the baby clothes from the loft through a cycle. It almost killed me. Lazy bugger I am grin

dd didn't wear half of what she was given as a newborn. what a waste of new clothes.

I have washed her clothes since, just not for the first time she wore them

I don't react to new clothes, but I react to biological washing powder and most fabric softeners.

atrcts Fri 22-Mar-13 23:02:37

I did, simply to avoid irritated skin. I was glad I did as within a week or 2 we were being treated for eczema - am sure it would have been much worse without gentle fairy liquid soothing it all first!
Second time round I have no choice either, as its all been in the loft for years. Wouldn't wear anything unwashed in those circumstances myself!

whethergirl Fri 22-Mar-13 23:07:01

Sorry Ohdeargod, I swear I read upthread that you couldn't be arsed. But it appears you didn't. It must have been another thread. About something totally different.

dd didn't get eczema until she was about 4 months old.

GreenEyedGirlxxx Fri 22-Mar-13 23:12:53

I agree with other posters that it jut seems crazy not to wash clothes before your baby wears them. I washed everything of DS's. He's 2 now and I still do it.

It's hardly any effort, why wouldn't you just stick them in the wash? Surely even if it just 'might' be some sort of risk to your newborn baby then it's worth protecting them. I'm shocked by some people - not realising it's an issue is one thing, but knowing it is but not bothering is just ridiculous.

UnrequitedSkink Fri 22-Mar-13 23:28:48

Ohdeargod1 sorry, I got a bit dramatic there. I blame the cider. You're right, you didn't say you couldn't be arsed. And the first act of love is usually the conception bit. wink

Dannilion Fri 22-Mar-13 23:29:57

There's a lot of judgemental hysteria on this thread, and unnecessary aggression. It's like a bf/ff topic on AIBU.

No-one I know washes their kids clothes before dressing them. DM didn't and I've always had great skin <shrug>

Wash your kids clothes if you want, don't get all holier than thou about it.

willoughboobs Fri 22-Mar-13 23:50:42

My dc washed absolutely everything for the arrival of her dd and then she gave birth to a DS, she couldn't return one single item confused hundreds of pounds down the drain confused

willoughboobs Fri 22-Mar-13 23:54:46

Df that was meant to be blush

AsukiBlue Sat 23-Mar-13 06:54:19

There seems to be a lot of scare mongering on this thread, as a baby wear technologist I can confirm that there is no way baby clothes are 'sprayed with formaldehyde', this is a substance used to add stiffness (e.g. To A mans shirt collar) unless you wanted a baby grow to stand up by itself you would not use it and permitted levels within even adult wear are so low. Chemicals used during the manufacture process are safe, the chemicals left on garments at time of purchase are no worse than domestic powders and softeners used at home.

To wash your baby's garments is completely a personal decision, not one of safety, I have washed mine but more due to the fact that they will shrink slightly, also I am more than aware just how many people touch that garment in a factory during manufacture.

Nobody should be made to feel guilty about not washing new stuff, there's already enough things that actually matter to worry about, if my little one arrives and can't fit into anything I've bought I wouldn't hesitate to put them in an unwashed suit.

Librarina Sat 23-Mar-13 07:10:03

I'm washing the baby clothes, mainly because I like the smell of fairy but partly because it feels like a nice ritual of getting ready for the baby. Most of the baby clothes we have are second hand but I'm washing new things too so that they all smell the same.
I imagine I'll be a lot less fussy about it after a few months but while I've got the spare time I'm quite enjoying it (makes a change from me being the hideous slattern that I usually am!)

Weissdorn Sat 23-Mar-13 07:11:02

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neontetra Sat 23-Mar-13 07:24:03

Asukiblue thanks for that post, I was panicking.

I didn't. I was so disorganised she was lucky to have any clothes let alone pre-laundered ones. She hasn't developed skin or other problems so I am assuming I got away with it. I am fully aware that I am a bad mother, and will just have to live with my guilt.

Ohdeargod1 Sat 23-Mar-13 08:20:07

Asuki - thank you for that. Mind made up, not washing new stuff.

lollypopsicle Sat 23-Mar-13 08:21:45

Have been watching this thread with interest and would like to thank Asukiblue for being the voice of reason.

Ohdeargod1 Sat 23-Mar-13 08:29:42

Also baby wear technologist sounds like a pretty lovely job!

ginmakesitallok Sat 23-Mar-13 08:32:59

I've never washed new clothes, I don't know anyone who does. I've never heard of anyone reacting to new clothes. I don't think it is an issue.

Crunchymunchyhoneycakes Sat 23-Mar-13 08:37:23

Levels of hysteria on this topic hilarious. I never bothered and won't if there is a next time. What a waste of the worlds resources(and my time!) to wash things that are already clean.

ChippingInIsEggceptional Sat 23-Mar-13 10:47:33

But the point is they aren't clean.

WestieMamma Sat 23-Mar-13 10:51:35

There seems to be a lot of scare mongering on this thread, as a baby wear technologist I can confirm that there is no way baby clothes are 'sprayed with formaldehyde', this is a substance used to add stiffness (e.g. To A mans shirt collar) unless you wanted a baby grow to stand up by itself you would not use it and permitted levels within even adult wear are so low.

I'm sorry, but you are wrong. Research carried out by the European Commission's Chemical Exposure Unit says that formaldehyde releasing resins are commonly used to prevent mold amongst other uses. Furthermore their research shows that 11% of baby clothing sold across the EU release levels of formaldehyde which exceed established limits.

publications.jrc.ec.europa.eu/repository/bitstream/111111111/5233/1/6150%20-%20HCHO_survey_final_report.pdf

ghosteditor Sat 23-Mar-13 11:05:51

I do always wash new clothes. Clothes shipped in from overseas are exposed to all sorts of stuff en route.

I had a huge allergic reaction to (presumably) the dye from a bra I bought new and wore unwashed - started where the bra sat and spread up to my neck and down past my hips. It lasted two weeks even with treatment. I even washed it and braved wearing it again months late and it was fine after a wash.

It's my understanding that exposure to chemical products can set the immune system to overreact to allergens - so eczema and other problems could be influenced by that. Btw, I'm not scientifically trained as I'm sure is obvious and I'm too ill to think straight so I realise this is the least persuasive statement ever grin

sugarandspite Sat 23-Mar-13 11:17:06

The thing is, when they're newborn their skin is so so delicate and new - it's only just been exposed to air for the first time! Why would you not do what you can to avoid unnecessary chemical contact.

I wash baby stuff in pure soap flakes too and no fabric conditioner for the first 6 months, only bath them in water, no soaps / shampoos and try to avoid using wipes as much as possible for the first few months.

I don't get hysterical about it but it makes sense to me

AsukiBlue Sat 23-Mar-13 11:21:18

Well obviously I have learnt nothing during my 5 years in the industry, I'd be better Looking everything up on google and scaring myself hmm Any reputable retailer is going to have dangerous substances banned, legally due diligence must be carried out to check for banned/harmful substances and with the introduction of REACH there is more pressure than ever for retailers to know exactly what is used within manufacture. I can't believe people seriously think that retailers would be allowed to sell products that pose a threat to babies.

I'm not trying to prove anyone right or wrong but I think this thread is causing already paranoid mums to be unnecessary worry, personally I've never opened the paper to read a story about a baby harmed by chemicals on clothing, nor have I received complaints for the same, and believe me mums are super quick to complain about any issues with baby clothes, as you should!

ChippingInIsEggceptional Sat 23-Mar-13 11:41:19

<sigh>

Surely if you were that well trained you would know that the issues are not always 'obvious' hmm

WestieMamma Sat 23-Mar-13 12:14:50

Well obviously I have learnt nothing during my 5 years in the industry, I'd be better Looking everything up on google and scaring myself

I didn't google, I asked my husband who is a chemistry professor with a PHD in the field plus 20 years experience working for the European Commission researching industry processes, so you can drop the patronising hmm. I've supported what I've said with scientific evidence from a reputable source which I've linked so others can read for themselves. You've supported what you've said with 'because I say so and I know better than you'.

I hate threads like this, where someone posts something to be helpful and then someone gets off on trying to patronise and make them look stupid. Mumsnet at it worst. I'm done.

I'm with Asuki on this one.
Naivety doesn't come from not believing that certain things are harmful, rather it comes from believing every thing you hear

BabyHMummy Sat 23-Mar-13 12:25:05

As i posted earlier - surely it is down to personal choice?!

Some people will chose to wash everything and others will chose to be selective or wash nothing, but who the hell are you all to judge?!

There are 2 opposing arguments stated here from people who have profesional knowledge, and whilst it is interesting to read the information it does not mean that it is wholly acurate or balanced. All companies and governing bodies of those industries will have their own positions on the issue of chemicals used or not used. So read both and make your own mind up, but stop with the nasty comments aimed at the OP as it is unfair and unjustified.

I personally agree with her on the issue of prewrapped sealed garments, i won't be washing them through for the first wear as they are sealed.

In my worklife i used to deal with imported goods from the far east so am aware that items especially fabrics can becoming tainted by the odours of other things they are shipped with, and if things whiff too much then i will wash, but this is MY choice and not for anyone else to condemn just because they choose to do it differently!

AsukiBlue Sat 23-Mar-13 12:39:15

My hubby is an electrician, shall I tell everyone how to re-wire their house?! [Grin] I'm sorry if you thought I was patronising, I truly wasn't trying to be, I'm just trying to supply my view from someone on the inside. Not everyone is a chemist and providing docs on chemical levels is a bit daunting and confusing, especially with baby brain! I'm not saying I know better than anyone else, but doing it for a job means I feel more informed.

As for not knowing what issues are 'obvious' if you worried about the unknown you would never leave the house, or dress your child, it can be said for absolutely everything, how can you be completely certain about what's in the washing powder you use?

And I'm in agreement re. Nasty threads, I don't like them, I definitely was not trying to be nasty but I think telling someone they are wrong is a sure way to make them bite!!

I think I made a mistake commenting on this thread, I'm meant to be on mat leave!!

ChippingInIsEggceptional Sat 23-Mar-13 13:00:38

I think I made a mistake commenting on this thread, I'm meant to be on mat leave!!

hmm

Westie - given your DH's credentials, people would be stupid not to listen wouldn't they?! People can choose to do whatever they like, but to deny the truth of it is ridiculous.

Weissdorn Sat 23-Mar-13 13:31:44

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Longfufu Sat 23-Mar-13 14:25:02

I'm with Asukiblue on this one. I was a babywear clothes buyer for a high street store. Baby clothes are completely safe out of packets, no need to wash.

midori1999 Sat 23-Mar-13 14:37:56

No, I never have and never will wash my baby's clothes before using them.

As for someone saying 'why wouldn't you, it's the first act of love you can give your newborn', you've got to be fucking joking, imagine if I said the same about breastfeeding....

honey86 Sat 23-Mar-13 15:09:22

<walks into thread>

<looks around>

blush

<walks out>

GingerDoodle Sat 23-Mar-13 16:00:14

I didn't; I'm frankly sceptical and agree with Abra1d!

DD is 6 months old and fine! Only thing thats given her a rash is bloody Huggies baby wipes!

Notmyidea Sat 23-Mar-13 16:57:02

what are these "new, in the packet" newborn clothes? My impending dc3 doesn't have any of those! The stuff that's come straight from my lo vely-friend-with-a-Boden-habit's 4 month old (God bless her) has been straight into draws as I'm confident it's more immaculately clean than anything else in my house will ever be. Stuff that's been stored a while or has come from charity shops I've washed.

DinglebertWangledack Sat 23-Mar-13 17:11:30

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ButteryJam Sun 24-Mar-13 00:21:16

It's up to each individual what they want to do ...

I personally would like to pre-wash all items, but I have two concerns: a) say the other gender pops out and b) say baby doesn't fit into newborn items. In both of these situations I won't be able to return the items, which would be a shame. This is why I am reluctant and hesitant, but will have to make a decision soon ...

iclaudius Sun 24-Mar-13 01:34:33

Cccrazy silly thread
Nope never washed baby clothes
Never will
Never give them chicken nuggets either!

ladymia Sun 24-Mar-13 02:00:48

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ladymia Sun 24-Mar-13 02:20:38

*What others do!

To each his or her own, but...

I find it odd that people think that because something is in a packet, that means it's clean. Someone made the clothes and I don't know how clean their hands were. I don't know how clean the factory was. That's before the stuff gets in the packet! Also, there are lots of chemicals involved in growing cotton and again I find it oddly trusting that people think that there is no way that there are residues left on the clothes.

Clothes from the loft, put away clean, somehow still smell musty so they get a wash.

The bottom line for me, though, is that I love washing those dinky little things and pegging them on the line and picturing a baby in them. I don't buy a lot of new stuff and don't have massive babies, so taking things back isn't an issue.

I certainly don't think that people who don't wash their baby clothes don't love their babies.

Anyway, I'm just killing time in hospital with a sick baby so don't be mean wink

I've washed things like baby grows and vests but wouldn't wash everything, like many point out you may get so much that they never wear or even a wrong sex diagnosis, plus things like dresses never look that new or nice again once worn if for a party etc, my dd got excema even after I washed all her newborn babygows, I think the washing powders can agrivate it just as much

ChippingInIsEggceptional Sun 24-Mar-13 08:54:02

DinglebertWangledack Sat 23-Mar-13 17:11:30
CHIPPING FUCK OFF WITH YOUR FEARMONGERING

Nice post.

It's not fearmongering - it's simply pointing out that clothes that have just been made are not clean, they have chemicals on them and they are dirty. Do what you like with that information.

ChippingInIsEggceptional Sun 24-Mar-13 08:55:56

ButteryJam Just wash a few things for the first few days, then decide if the rest will be used or not. It's easy enough to put another wash on when the baby is here & you know what size you need smile

ghosteditor Sun 24-Mar-13 08:57:17

You don't have to use washing powder - even a water wash will help, or use soap nuts or homemade laundry goop smile

ChippingInIsEggceptional Sun 24-Mar-13 08:57:50

LadyMia - you couldn't be more wrong grin

purrpurr Sun 24-Mar-13 09:24:05

Chipping darling, do you work for the Daily Mail? You're doing an awfully good job. Perhaps, though, you really should preface your next psychological warfare masterpiece with, 'A leading think tank study suggests...' just for maximum lack of traceability. Or proof. You know, those kinds of things.

Also, massive hmm face.

Lj8893 Sun 24-Mar-13 11:45:15

Oh wow. This thread is crazy!!!!

I'm very newly pregnant and wouldn't have thought about washing new baby clothes, or any clothes for that matter and I work in a very well know fashion brand.

Reading this thread I may well wash my future baby's clothing before wear but probably out of caution rather than the panicky fear that some mothers have on here.

I do however think it is completely up to the individual what they decide to do, am quite surprised and disappointed at the amount of nasty judging going on here!

DaveMccave Sun 24-Mar-13 14:45:50

I did last time. I've often wondered if its necessary. I washed them with softener as well as non bio liquid, who's to say they aren't harmfull?

All the new clothes this time I've bought from h&m, all of them are organic and Oeko-tex certified. Oeko-tex 100 certification means they have proof that no harmful chemicals are used during the production of clothes or at any stage of the process. So if people want to buy but keep in case they don't fit, h&m or anywhere with the oeko-tex label is a safe bet.

Dillydollydaydream Sun 24-Mar-13 15:29:45

I've always washed my dc new clothes when they were baby but only because I love the smell of their clothes washed in fairy & comfort pure, dried in the dryer they're lovely and soft too.

ChippingInIsEggceptional Sun 24-Mar-13 20:08:23

purrpurr - did you actually bother to read the link that WestieMama posted? Thought not.

If clothing was clean & chemical free places like H&M wouldn't need labels telling you that they are chemical free would they?!

Lj8893 Sun 24-Mar-13 20:29:13

And the judging and patronising continues......

AsukiBlue Sun 24-Mar-13 20:53:28

Chipping, I wanted to walk away from this post but blooming hell you just keep going! You have added zero valuability to this thread and you obviously don't have a clue what you are talking about, every post I have given you have viciously quoted but your argument is based on one piece of info, provided by someone else, by reading one doc you cannot claim that all clothing is covered in chemicals. Do you actually know what Okeo-tex is? H&m are very good at marketing things like this. I added my view as I have actually visited mills, laundries and factories around the world that make for the biggest high street retailers and supermarkets, I've seen the process first hand, not just sat at home and believed what I read, which is why I believed my view may be useful.

Stop attacking people, it's completely pointless and you really are making enemies for yourself, and stop judging people for making their decisions.

ChippingInIsEggceptional Sun 24-Mar-13 21:48:34

Asuki - feel free to walk away from the thread, no one is making you read or post on it. Pot/kettle re posting - no?

You have no idea what my background is - none at all. It generally pays to find out things like that before slating people hmm

My advice is not based on one piece of info - I posted three times before westie posted on the thread. Do you actually think you are the only person who has visited mills, laundries, factories etc? Have you actually stopped to think that people here might actually be/have been involved in the actual process of clothing manufacturing and that your 5 years as a 'baby wear technologist' might not make you the most qualified person to speak about such things?

'viciously quoted' - don't make me laugh.

DieWilde13 Sun 24-Mar-13 21:52:25

Asuki, did the mills, laundries and factories that you visited not use any dyes or finishings?
Even the oekotex label only guarantees that chemicals above a certain threshold are not present in the clothes you buy. It does not guarantee that these clothes are free from chemicals, only that they are "harmless to health".

Fearmongering is one thing, but lulling consumers into a false sense of security is quite another!

And, contamination aside, another point to consider is the fact that clothes are simply dirty after a whole process of manufacturing and shipping and the many hands they have been handled by.

Also I am completely baffled by the fact that people sterilise baby bottles and don't wash baby clothes.

ChippingInIsEggceptional Sun 24-Mar-13 21:53:49

I haven't attacked anyone and I haven't judged anyone for making their own decision. I have no idea why on earth are you so defensive and wound up about this.

Uhoh2007 Sun 24-Mar-13 22:12:26

Oh bloody hell I've put them all away unwashed now. They look so new and nice...

Uhoh2007 Sun 24-Mar-13 22:18:04

FWIW I did wash DD1s. Wasn't planning in DD2s - now i'm slightly panicked about this factory handling malarkey.

ladymia Sun 24-Mar-13 22:21:26

Pretty sure Chipping must work for Fairy Non-bio grin have never seen someone quite as passionate about washing clothes

ChippingInIsEggceptional Sun 24-Mar-13 22:21:35

UhOh - they'll still look all new & nice when they have been washed and re-folded smile Chemical debate aside - things aren't clean, they're handled a lot by man and machine during processing, reason enough to give them a wash IMO smile

When is DD2 due?

ChippingInIsEggceptional Sun 24-Mar-13 22:26:05

Haven't you ladymia? Try posting a thread about it or doing an advanced search, there are loads of threads about clothes washing, but the most entertaining are those about the washing of sheets and towels smile

... and no, I don't work for Fairy - nor Persil or Ariel...

AsukiBlue Sun 24-Mar-13 22:27:15

Eurgh, of course I don't think that, I work with enough of them! I just don't think you are making a very valid argument, I'm wound up because I think you come across as being very rude, rather than trying to be informative or helpful you are just telling people they are wrong and provoking an argument- even people that you have not attacked have told you to shut up! I'm sure that you are just a very antagonistic person and yes I should just ignore you. I haven't once said my word is gospel yet you seem to act as if your if the only view that should be considered. And why keep quotating everything I say, 'like I made it up'?! You haven't provided your own background so why would I ask, I made an apology for sounding patronising yet you immediately retaleated by having a dig at me, I think you just want a faceless argument. I will leave it now as its just not worth it and I have better things to do.

Diewilde, I'm not sure if you have read my past posts but I have not said the process is chemical free, I just said that by the time a garment reaches store it has the equivalent of domestic powder/softener on it, and nothing harmful, I also said I have washed my own as I have seen how many people handle a garment!

I haven't said 'don't wash your clothes' I have just given the info that I know so that people can come to their own conclusion.

Considering the severity if issues that get posted on mn this thread seems to have got totally out if hand and just seems a bit ridiculous.

ladymia Sun 24-Mar-13 22:28:48

Hey my conscious is clear I washed all my stuff with Surcare (that must make me a REALLY good mother to be??) but that doesn't make me think I am better than those that have decided not to!

Lj8893 Sun 24-Mar-13 22:37:33

Sorry to say this chipping but you have come across as quite rude and patronising. I agree with you that clothing should be washed before wear but don't agree with the way you have come across on this post.
Perhaps it's the mis communication that happens with text rather than the spoken word but you maybe do need to re read what you write before you post it.

lookingfoxy Sun 24-Mar-13 22:44:30

Agree with everything Asuki has said.
Wow never seen someone so obviously spoiling for a fight on a pregnancy thread, get a grip chipping!

Paradisefound Mon 25-Mar-13 10:31:06

I washed my baby clothes because they did smell unpleasant. Most have come from m&s made in Sri Lanka, it clearly states on the packaging no toxic chemicals or dyes used on our baby clothes. As they come from resealable multipacks they could easily be returned despite the fact that I have washed them.... You never know the history of what you buy, another good reason to wash, in my opinion. I don't think for one minute that you harm your baby if you don't wash their clothes before first use it just personal preference.

whethergirl Mon 25-Mar-13 11:12:30

I dry cleaned all my baby's clothes and then kept them in a sterile clothing unit.

ATJabberwocky Mon 25-Mar-13 11:27:13

I always wash new clothes, you have no idea who's tried it on it the shop or where its been.

I used to work in a clothing dempartment, and clothes end up on the floor all the time and are jut put back on a coat hanger a given a quick brush to take the dust off.

I didn't know about formaldehyde on clothes, that's just scary.

New clothes smell wierd also.

I always washed my newborns, and childrens cloths, always at high tempretures just to be sure. It doesn't matter if you can't see a reaction, it doesn't mean there's nothing happening.

aufaniae Mon 25-Mar-13 13:36:38

It never even occurred to me that people wash new clothes!

If you're washing with powder, surely that's adding a load of chemicals anyway? confused

Ragwort Mon 25-Mar-13 13:40:37

I'd never heard of this before Mumsnet, even when I read about it I didn't do it. I know people who wash sheets before they use them too (adults).

Fakebook Mon 25-Mar-13 13:55:37

I didn't wash Dd's clothes and I didn't wash ds's new clothes either. I'd like to think I'm a well informed mother and made my choices. I doubt there is even 1ml worth of formaldehyde sprayed on each piece of clothing. As for people touching clothing with germy hands and whatnot: nothing is sterile or remains sterile once exposed to air. Sterilising baby bottles is just completely pointless. Same way with clothes, after washing they're exposed to all matter of pathogens in the house. You might have flu germs on your hands too!

Also I don't think this is the right topic to get all evangelical about something. There are probably many vulnerable women on the pregnancy board who will now feel guilty for not washing their baby's clothes and denying them the "first act of love" hmm.

TessTing123 Mon 25-Mar-13 14:12:49

But new clothes smell so horrid. Bury your nose in a darling little new baby frock from any highstreet store and inhale deeply. Then feel nauseous and headachey. Then wash it before putting it on your baby. (It's like huffing glue or hairspray )

TobyLerone Mon 25-Mar-13 14:19:04

I honestly can't believe people don't wash new clothes. Especially baby clothes. It wouldn't occur to me not to confused

Every new thing (clothing, underwear, cooking utensil, storage pot, saucepan, towel, bedding, cutlery etc) which comes into my house gets washed. And anything I'm given. I honestly thought everyone did that!

aufaniae Mon 25-Mar-13 14:32:49

I wash things that I'm going to eat / drink with.

But it has never occurred to me to wash new clothes! I'm shock that so many people here do. I love that new clothes smell!

I'll ask again, if you're washing with powder, aren't you just adding more chemicals?

Toby- you would even dry clean a new frock for yourself?! I find that more shock agree with you about pans etc mind
Paradise- really you think shops will accept returns of anything you've taken out if a pack and washed and tried to put back?! Good luck with that!!
Agree that clothes may have been handled etc in shops but then what do you think people will be doing with your baby when they come to visit or when they start crawling around dirty floors, think the thread has been totally blown out of proportion as someone else pointed out I've never heard any horror stories about shock- newborns clothes not washed ! I must be a terrible mother as I sometimes use bibs etc to try and get more then one wear out of them grin

Msbluesky32 Mon 25-Mar-13 14:43:52

I washed baby clothes and bedding in surcare but only because I had read you should. That's not to say people who don't was them first are wrong - I just felt I should, iykwim! I wash my own clothes in surcare because I have very dry skin, so I didn't buy it especially.

Re: new clothes, I don't bother washing them before I wear them myself. Bedding - yes, because sheets and duvet covers often feel very stiff and they look odd if you try and put them on straight from the packet because of all the folds.

TobyLerone Mon 25-Mar-13 15:04:57

I don't dry clean anything. But yes, theoretically, if I bought something which was dry clean only, I'd have it dry cleaned before I wore it.

GreenShadow Mon 25-Mar-13 15:47:44

Another one who has never washed anything before either I or DC wear it.
Some people are just paranoid.

None of us have come down with anything nasty.

TobyLerone Mon 25-Mar-13 17:24:51

Not paranoid. It just feels stiff and smells horrible. I also really do hate the thought of how many people have touched/tried on items of clothing, but I'm not 'paranoid' about it.

Bue Mon 25-Mar-13 18:10:40

I always hear you should do this but in the grand scheme of things I can't imagine what earthly difference it would make. Really not sure I could be arsed.

I see a lot of newborn clothes as a student midwife - many people clearly wash everything in advance but just as often the baby gros come straight out of the 3-pack!

Cordial Mon 25-Mar-13 19:34:50

I am superbly allergic to new M & S clothes the hives are amazing! So I will be washing everything.

My Sis boil washes all kids clothes is this the way to go or can I stick at my regular 30? Thanks in advance washing queens.

MintyyAeroEgg Mon 25-Mar-13 20:37:15

I am certainly not paranoid and am pretty much horizontal about all sorts of housekeeping matters that Mumsnet gets worked up about,but, my point in all this is, its such a tiny thing to do and so easy then why on earth wouldn't you?

TobyLerone Mon 25-Mar-13 21:17:32

30's fine ;)

Cordial Mon 25-Mar-13 21:44:43

Thanks Toby winkworrying my green credentials were out the window

ExhaustedMamasita Tue 26-Mar-13 10:47:07

Without doubt the best post on Mumsnet Talk EVER! Great effort everyone, loving the passionate responses! As a first time PG Mummy, I've learnt lots and had a little giggle too. Never really considered it before but think I'll wash my newborn baby's clothes. But each to their own!

Peace, hugs and love to everyone who posted! flowers xxxx

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