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is this an ectopic pregnancy?

(44 Posts)
notsoold Mon 25-Feb-13 21:06:06

Yesterday I started having cramps about 6pm....not so painful as periods cramps but only on my right side.
No other symptoms and otherwise well...
I went to epu today and because I am 6+2 they dod some blood tests and told me to come home. They thought that at 6+2 a heartbeat might not showed in a scan and I would stress even more...
The epu phoned tonight and told me to book a scan tomorrow and that the hcg result was 5163...
Should I be worried???
Can it be ectopic with that result??
Ps I am 41..

notsoold Mon 25-Feb-13 21:42:24

Bump

1500mmania Mon 25-Feb-13 21:50:19

Hi the hcg level may well be fine, a look online said it could be 1000-56000 in week 6 so you fall within that catergory. Try not to worry too much tonight, see what the scan tells you and take it from there. Everyone with one sided pain & positive hcg should be given scan because that is the only way of finding out where the pregnancy is & it is a nonsense that they didn't do it today for you to be honest. Different hospitals have different policies.

If you get severe pain go to a&e tonight. If not good luck for tomorrow.

1500mmania Mon 25-Feb-13 21:51:53

Ps it might not be an ectopic if may be just the corpus cysts in the ovaries. Try not to worry too much (although I know that is far easier said than done)

Guntie Mon 25-Feb-13 21:57:46

Hi notsoold,

The reason they have booked you in for another scan is that very high or very low HCG can be a sign of ectopic pregnancy. However its more important to look at if it is doubling than anything. The actual number is fairly meaningless- at 6 weeks a normal HCG can be anything between 1,080 - 56,500 mIU/ml!!

The good news is that tomorrow they will definitely be able to tell if the pregnancy is ectopic or not. I am pretty shocked they didn't just scan you today to rule out ectopic.

I have been exactly where you are. In the end the pain was put down to post ovulation pain as I had ovulated from my right side. There is every chance baby is right where it should be, but I know you must be very worried now.

Try to get some sleep and relax tonight, tomorrow you will know and it all sounds like it is in your favour.

thanksthanksthanksthanksthanks

notsoold Mon 25-Feb-13 22:14:01

1500...thank you....at least you gave me something to think about...

Guntie....thank you for sharing your story. I also thought they might scan me today but hopefully I will have some answers tomorrow....

Guntie Mon 25-Feb-13 22:41:19

notso I am amazed they didn't scan you today. Terrible. At 6 weeks baby would have have visible and they would have been able to rule out ectopic. Most EPAU cannot "discharge" you from their unit until they see the heartbeat so it sounds like they wanted to wait a week or so then they definitely would have been able to see a heartbeat, rather than have to scan you twice. It seems very mean and doesn't really take into consideration your feelings.

I had a "high" HCG number too and now I look at it and think it was a positive sign that baby was growing and doing all the right things.

Lastly, for anyone else that is reading this and might be in the same situation.. A progesterone test is proven to be very solid at ruling an ectopic pregnancy out (more so than HCG). Basically progesterone levels above 24 effectively rule out an ectopic, so I would push to have that done if anyone is too early for the scan to see where baby is, but is worried about an ectopic.

Fingers crossed for you that everything works out well tomorrow.

notsoold Mon 25-Feb-13 22:50:29

Well...I guess it will be another sleepless night for me...after a mmc last summer and a cp last November my stress levels tonight are quite high..sad
Thank you Guntie!!!

Guntie Tue 26-Feb-13 12:26:25

notso how did did the scan go? Hope everything went ok..

notsoold Tue 26-Feb-13 12:50:35

I am going at 3.40.....

1500mmania Tue 26-Feb-13 13:04:33

Good luck

HavingALittleFaithBaby Tue 26-Feb-13 13:22:36

Good luck OP. really hope the baby is in the right place.

Guntie Tue 26-Feb-13 14:34:49

notso oh no, you poor thing- having to wait all day today as well. Cruel. Hope you managed some sleep last night and that the scan brings good results today.

Elkieb Tue 26-Feb-13 14:42:40

Fingers crossed

shelly81 Tue 26-Feb-13 15:57:02

Good luck OP xx

star87 Tue 26-Feb-13 15:57:52

Good luck xxx

Isitme1 Tue 26-Feb-13 16:03:51

Just want to say I had similar pain to you but was left sided and pain in shoulder and diarrhoea which they associate with ectopic. Mw was lovely and got me in for scan that day and did bloods too. She warned me about not seeing heartbeat and what not but thankfully they saw heart beat and im 19 weeks pg (as im writing this dc is kicking lol)
So hopefully everything is ok x
Fx x

Isitme1 Tue 26-Feb-13 16:04:09

Woops forgot to say good luck x

notsoold Tue 26-Feb-13 16:54:15

Hi everyone and thank you for your good wishes....

What a day!!!!
Just back from my scan and mixed feelings really. The good news is that the yolk sac is at the right place (and not ectopic although I am still in pain).So I was told to take paracetamol. But no fetal pole was found and they said that maybe the pregancy is around 5 weeks??? Well, that does not agree with dates at all even allowing for the egg to hang around everywhere in my body before settling down in the womb (not developing???)
I will have to return on the 7th March for another scan. The MW was lovely but pretty much said to me to prepare myself for the worst sad...
So hearbeat because not even a fetal pole!!!
I am hearbroken, as I feel to hold to hope would be unwise (after seen her face)

1500mmania Tue 26-Feb-13 20:01:08

Oh gosh, I'm so sorry. How upsetting for you I'm h

1500mmania Tue 26-Feb-13 20:02:53

Sorry iPhone posted too soon

I hope that it all works out in 2weeks but completely understand how your feeling about not wanting to get your hopes up. Look after yourself, try and rest xxxxxxxxx

HavingALittleFaithBaby Tue 26-Feb-13 20:11:45

Oh that's the awful thing with early scans sad no clear answer...hang in there notso. I really hope it's a growy baby on your next scan.

honey86 Tue 26-Feb-13 20:22:42

aww hunni sad massive hugs and fx for your scan xx

Icanonlytry Tue 26-Feb-13 20:32:55

I went through the same, suspected ectopic, I thought I was 7-8 weeks but although the yolk sac could be seen there was no visible fetal pole or heartbeat so I was either only 4-5 weeks or pregnancy was not viable, had to go back 10 days later for another scan where ds could be seen clearly, strong, healthy heartbeat and was measuring 7+2 so although I was not as far as I originally thought baby had grown quickly in the 10 days.
I know how awful the wait is and how easy it is to fear the worst but I hope my story helps you see that the scan today does not mean it is definitely bad news, ds is now 20 months and full of mischief fun.

goosey123 Tue 26-Feb-13 20:46:12

I know how hard the 2 week wait is, I have my re scan tomorrow after a scan 2 weeks ago showed 4 to 5 week sac, when my LMP put me at 7 weeks. Although I think I've remained realistic about what I will hear tomorrow , stories like the previous poster (sorry can't remember name, on phone..) have helped me get through. I started a similar thread 2 weeks ago about no heartbeat at 7 weeks, and so many people posted positive stories. It stopped me completely despairing. All the best x

notsoold Wed 27-Feb-13 00:46:36

Thank you all....
1500 you are absolutely right ...my hope is in tatters....

* havingalittle honey* thank you... Xxx

Icanonly thank you for sharing your story. Please do you mind telling me if your symptoms continued during the wait? Your story is a balm to me, although I must confess that I am so disheartened and have cried pretty much all evening.
Even my symptoms disappeared and that reinforces the thought that everything is going downhill... ( sorryfor the pessimism...)

goosey good luck tomorrow hun..
Fx for you. I hope tomorrow to be more optimistic.... Did you keep your symptoms???

ChairmanWow Wed 27-Feb-13 07:40:50

I'm so sorry for all the worry you're going through notso. Please try not to worry too much about your symptoms - I've always found with my pregnancies that you get days when they seem to have eased off and days when they feel stronger.

Will be thinking of you and keeping fingers crossed for a strong, healthy heartbeat.

notsoold Wed 27-Feb-13 15:13:15

goosey how did it go today???

chairman thank you....to be truthful I am trying to keep calm ( if not positive about a happy outcome) but without success....
For sure it will be a long week ....xxx

goosey123 Thu 28-Feb-13 13:15:00

Thanks for asking notsoold. I wish I could post some positive uplifting news, but unfortunately it hasn't worked out for me this time. The scan showed no development. In a way it has helped having the 2 weeks to prepare myself, and I'm still really glad I had those positive stories to cling on to. I really hope you are doing OK with the awful wait x

notsoold Thu 28-Feb-13 17:12:31

Goosey.... I am so sorry.... Take care of yourself... Xxx

beckie90 Thu 28-Feb-13 21:26:23

So sorry goosey sad

Notsoold, just wanted to say, my pregnancy at 5+4 was only showing a sac no yolk or anything, they obviously thought the worse, went back 12 days later and there was a baby with a heartbeat. Finger

beckie90 Thu 28-Feb-13 21:27:09

Daft phone, was meant to finish, fingers crossed for you xx

notsoold Thu 28-Feb-13 22:10:25

Beckie....thank you! I need as many finfers crossed as possible. The fact that they told me the gestacional sac was 12mm ( about 6weeks) and yolk sac but no fetal pole is concerning...
It put either the pregnancy back or ( much worse... Not a viable pregnancy.
I am preparing myself for the worst, not because I am giving up on this pg, but because when I asked if it might be ok and if I got my dates wrong, she said "yes ....but it is more certain that it is not going to be a viable pregnancy....
Hope she is wrong!!!
I am glad you had a good result smile

notsoold Thu 07-Mar-13 11:14:15

Just an update...
I had another scan today and they found the fetal pole with a heartbeat.
Everything measuring around 6 weeks instead of my almost 8 but I was told not tp worry..
smile very happy!!!! Early days I know but I am very happy!!!
Thank you for holding my hand!

SunshineOutdoors Thu 07-Mar-13 12:19:39

Hi, I just read this thread feeling sad and I'm so happy to read your last post. I bet you are too! Good luck with your pregnancy, I hope all goes well for you smile

Knitella Thu 07-Mar-13 16:55:02

Just read this thread for the first time - so pleased for you notsoold!! Brilliant news.

Cavort Thu 07-Mar-13 17:05:26

Fantastic news Notsoold, I'm sure you are thrilled after a difficult 2 weeks smile

notsoold Thu 07-Mar-13 17:19:42

Thank you...the stress levels were sky high! I just don't think I will totally relax until I am holding the lo...smile

1500mmania Fri 08-Mar-13 19:29:53

Great news I'm so happy for you gringringringringringringrin

notsoold Fri 08-Mar-13 21:10:29

smile thanks

honey86 Fri 08-Mar-13 21:30:07

congrats hunni grin although im abit shocked that she said such a rash thing like its more certain to not be viable blush talk about positivity hmm thanks

Guntie Fri 08-Mar-13 21:33:18

notso Congratulations!!! So pleased to hear that!

HavingALittleFaithBaby Sat 09-Mar-13 08:55:34

Oh that's great news! smile Hold on to that hope!

notsoold Sat 09-Mar-13 21:57:33

Thank you!!!
Honey you are totally right.... Had she been a bit more impartial I wouldn't be so down ....

Guntie...thanks hun!!!

Having a little thank you smile

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