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what pram to get? so confused

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Hai1988 Tue 19-Feb-13 09:34:55

I am after a pram that the baby can lay flat in but can also fit a car seat to, as although i walk quite alot (not off road) i use my car quite a bit to get to town.

Would like it to last a few years so needconvert to pushchair .

Both me and dh are tall me 5"7 dh is
6"4 so nothing low down that will hurt our backs.

Have a zafira so boot space not a problem

Budget is only around £300-£400 with carseat so this is what limits me really.

Have been drawn back to the silver cross 3d alot just not sure :$
Please help

HPsauceonbaconbuttiesmmm Tue 19-Feb-13 10:06:35

Silver cross tend to be quite heavy.

3 years ago for DS i got a maclaren techno xlr which is lie flat and suitable from birth. Umbrella fold (which is what everyone ends up with after baby is about 6 months old). Adjustable handles (I'm 5'6, DH 6'0 and comfy). It was great and still in good condition, which is handy as number 2 is on the way.
There is a carrycot that goes with it, but I really wouldn't recommend it, ds was out of it by 8 weeks and it has a really hard base.
The recaro car seat clicks on to the buggy base too which I really liked.

Must admit I do like my friends baby jogger city mini though, which takes the recaro seat or the maxicosi cabriofix and is also lie flat from birth. It's much lighter and very easy to fold but not umbrella so takes up more room.

If i was buying now, i think i'd probably get the city mini.

Shaiandbump Tue 19-Feb-13 10:09:30

I'm in a similar situation especially with the tallness lol
Been looking at UPPABABY VISTA on eBay

farmersdaugther Tue 19-Feb-13 10:09:42

We've got the Baby Jogger Mini too.

Get on Kiddicare, as they do sometimes have good deals.

madwomanacrosstheroad Tue 19-Feb-13 10:12:48

Second hand buggaboo chameleon with new maxi cosi and base. You can always get new fabrics as you go along.
I assume its a newish zafira with isofix - the older ones were a nihhtmare for carseats due to buckle crunch. With a zafira dond assumr a seat will fit. Get the shop to fit it and check.

12ylnon Tue 19-Feb-13 10:25:15

We have the Phil and Ted's smart. It's cracking.
We used just the forward facing buggy with DS up until he was about 4 and a bit and will be using it with a maxi cosi car seat when DS2 arrives. Very easy to get the car seat in and out. It has a carry cot you can fit into it as well (which you can buy a stand for, so no need for a separate moses basket). Really light and small- i used to take it on the bus all the time.
I also went and tested it in the snow the other day and it went very well.

philandteds.com/uk/Products/Push/smart/Customise#smart
www.tesco.com/direct/phil-teds-smart-buggy-peanut-bundle/210-1756.prd

Hai1988 Tue 19-Feb-13 10:27:37

Ok now worried madwoman its a 2002 zafira so not new no, what do u mean by buckle crunch?

Was after something with a carrycot rather than a pushchair that lies flat

DeathMetalMum Tue 19-Feb-13 10:30:08

Pretty much everyone I know who had a silvercross 3d or similar swapped it for a lightweight stroller/buggy once the baby was between 6-12 months. Have a read of the pushchairs section you might get some more ideas there.

HPsauceonbaconbuttiesmmm Tue 19-Feb-13 10:33:15

There is a carry cot attachemnet for the city mini. honestly though, you really don;t need one, especially if budget is tight, that's the thing to do without. Unless you're able to use it as a moses basket/early travel cot too.Some carry cots are suitable for overnight use, some not.

madwomanacrosstheroad Tue 19-Feb-13 10:36:32

The mothrrcare own brand my 4 is quote nice. Also the carrycot is quite roomy andiy takes a maxi cosi. You can usually get a discouny code if you join their baby club. I woild look out for a desent sized basket underneath and go into your nearest town centre or park on a nice day and have a good look to see what other mothers push their small toddlers in. It will give you a good idea of which prams are good and ptactical. Also if you go pram shopping try to borrow an older child to see how big the seat unit is. Some are ridiculously small.

madwomanacrosstheroad Tue 19-Feb-13 10:41:54

2002 zafira is newer than the one we had.Buckle crunch is when you strap the seat in and the buckle sits against the plastic of the seat. In the case of an accident the buckle may not hold. We had a 1998 or 99 zafira and car seats were no fun. We had to change some. Just get a good car seat place to fit a seat for you. We had the fun of the car seat plus it was dc5 so needed to fit pram in with all seats up.

Paradisefound Tue 19-Feb-13 10:45:09

I would recommend going to kiddiecare, mamas and papas, mothercare or similar to try them out ( obviously depends where you live)... Some are very flimsy and won't last, others are really small and won't last, some are a bugger to fold. Have fun!

Pascha Tue 19-Feb-13 10:45:27

Go spend an afternoon pushing some round John Lewis/Mothercare/Kiddicare/Local shop. Make a shortlist based on how it feels to push, what features it has that you want, how you will be using it day to day and then come home and go online to www.bestbuggy.co.uk/ for reviews and comparisons of all of them.

Beatrixpotty Tue 19-Feb-13 10:50:58

Bugaboo bee can do all that but in that price range will be 2nd hand ,can highly recommend though especially if you are mainly town based.I've used one for both mine,v light,baby can lie flat from birth,can stick maxi cosi car seat on it ,easy & light to push & fold.Mine just got stolen so picked up a nearly new one for about £150 on ebay for my next baby.

HavingALittleFaithBaby Tue 19-Feb-13 10:56:32

We went to Kiddicare and tried a couple. We picked the babystyle oyster - had everything you wanted - base folds in half and has carrycot option to start then converts to pushchair. You can buy a car seat that fits the wheel base too. We got it all for £400.

RugBugs Tue 19-Feb-13 11:40:50

We didn't last to even six months with the silver cross 3D. We called it the tank! But, I do go off-road and our pavements are terrible locally. I don't think the council know what a dropped kerb is.

We got a phil & teds (explorer), still using it at 2.3 and DC2 will go straight into it over the summer.

TwitchyTail Tue 19-Feb-13 11:55:20

Just to say if you do get the City Mini and want the carrycot, there are absolutely loads for sale barely used on eBay and Preloved for a third of the price (I got one this way, in fact was my first ever eBay purchase).

madwomanacrosstheroad Tue 19-Feb-13 12:21:38

I got my buggaboo second hand and soldit on ebay for slightly more than what i had paid. Agree to stay away from silvercross (they only bought the name about ten yrs ago, nothing to do with the old silvercross). Oyster is nice but i feel seats are a bit small. Baby jogger are great to fold. Uppababy is very nice and i like how high up the seat unit is and that it is constructed so you can take big steps. I dont agree thatveverybody goes for maclaren. I dont like that the babys face is at tge height of exhaust fumes and i dont like the small wheels or the folding mechanism.

Hai1988 Tue 19-Feb-13 13:34:58

thanks all its alot to think about, I do love the oysters but from what ive seen they are a bit out of my price range.

When did you get all that from kiddicare faith was it in a sale ?

curlyclaz13 Tue 19-Feb-13 15:34:02

The cosatto giggle come with a pram as standard and you can also have it as a travel system with a car seat. I have seen the whole system for £400. The car seat is not isofix though.
I am tempted by the giggle but we already have the recaro car seat so just the pram/pushchair for us !

elsabel Tue 19-Feb-13 15:55:24

Ive just bought the Graco Evo, only paid £280 as it was on offer in mothercare and with that got the chassis, the seat which also reclines so no need to buy a seperate carrycot as its suitable from birth and has the hood, and the car seat, and a rain cover. Easy to fold and folds up quite small aswell.

stargirl1701 Tue 19-Feb-13 15:59:53

I love my Stokke Explory. Plenty available on eBay second hand. I usually go on the bus with it. It doesn't fit in small car boots. I have the carrycot, pushchair and car seat adapters for it.

Hai1988 Tue 19-Feb-13 16:43:05

Curly Have just looked at the cosatto giggle and I do really like that one, have never seen it in the flesh and live in a small town so not much choice to choose from in shops and would have to test drive a pram a bit first instead of buying sort of blind online, will have to see if any shops a lil further a field from me stock the giggle.

I speshly like the giggle in the lime green colour smile

I agree star stokke's are lovely but to much out of my price range and DH refuses to buy second hand hmm

madwomanacrosstheroad Tue 19-Feb-13 16:51:02

The graco looks nice but while graco infant car sears tend to get surprisingly good reviews in crash tests i have never been impressed by their prams. Same with hauck. I would initially look at what feels right, check your options re carseats and then look for offers. Prices can vary hugely. Also you can often find an ex display or previous years colour at a much lower price. I would rather buy the ideal pram 2nd hand (usually about up to half in price if excellent condition, much cheaper if couple of years old). You ll push a pram for a long time. A car seat is not recommended to buy 2nd hand, however if someone offers you one or lends you one and you know them well enough that you know it has not been in an accident and is not too old (5yrs), i would certainly consider that. Have you looked at mutsy or teutonia? They are lovely prams and sometimes can be found in a sale or nearly new.

madwomanacrosstheroad Tue 19-Feb-13 17:11:40

Have just gogled no idea qho kiddisave.co.uk are but they have the oyster with carseat reduced to 355.-.

madwomanacrosstheroad Tue 19-Feb-13 17:34:21

Also mothercare online have a price match policy. So if you find it online cheaper, you can get it through mothercare and have their network should anything go wrong.

joby21 Tue 19-Feb-13 17:39:56

We had no idea about pushchairs. We thought about what we wanted out of our pushchair eg needed to go off road, wanted it to lie flat, big shopping basket etc and went to kiddicare. We then told our list of requirements to a member of staff and she showed us a selection. We chose a britax smart 3 wheeler with the safe sleeper carry cot. It's brill for us!

Kafri Tue 19-Feb-13 19:41:17

I was torn between the oyster and uppababy vista.
chose the vista in the end and its fabulous.
comes as a package with covers and maxi cosy car seat adapter. not the cheapest but you'll get one on eBay at a reasonable price.

John Lewis are great for information and testing even if you don't buy it from there.

Newmum2013 Wed 20-Feb-13 05:58:38

We've got mamas and papas sola. It lies flat and is suitable from
Both. It can face either way and has adjustable handles for height. It also has adapters where you can attach car seat. We were lucky and got ours in the sale but think the whole package will not go over your budget. Feels light to push and move around but obviously haven't tested it fr real as DC is still very comfy on the inside!

Smallgreenone Wed 20-Feb-13 06:49:39

We have a stokke xplory and its great. You can adjust the height so good for you and hubby. It's pricey but am sure you can get a second hand one on eBay. Fab extras too like fur lined mittens to go on the handlebar to keep your fingers warm in winter grin

stargirl1701 Wed 20-Feb-13 08:52:14

I'm loving the Stokke Winter Kit too Small grin

FirstTimeForEverything Wed 20-Feb-13 08:58:39

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Hai1988 Wed 20-Feb-13 09:28:48

Grrr dh doesnt like the cossata giggle for some reason! We will never decide sad

Have both been looking at the jane muum travel system (cant link cus now on phone) Anyone have any experiance with this one?

Trishstar Wed 20-Feb-13 09:38:02

Another vote for oyster. I've got the whole system. It's sturdy, folds down easily, so easy to push/turn etc. deffo you can find deals within your budget.

It's won lots of awards. Have a look round x

CarpetBagger Wed 20-Feb-13 09:52:35

we got a pushchair/pram that looks flimsey and its still going very strong 6 years later for no 2, an aria, baby lies almost flat.

people i know have regretted buying huge heavey things you cant fit well into a car or lift, collapse etc.
our one is so light which is great after birth. folds down great, easy and simple.

dont forget people make a fuss about buying totally flat pram to begin with but then end up carrying and keeping baby in car seat anyway!

we got a three wheeler from about 2 ish year of age off freecyle.

rainand Wed 20-Feb-13 12:22:04

I also went to kiddicare and have chosen the britax smart 3 wheeler, very easy to fold up and within our budget.

joby21, which car seat did you get with the britax?

madwomanacrosstheroad Wed 20-Feb-13 15:54:13

I suppose if you do like the oyster, it does have the advantage that it can use its britax, maxi cosi or babystyle car seats which widens your scope in choosing the seat that best fits into your car. If you look at various online retailers, you can find the actual pushchair for around 250, depending on colour.

I have got a 3d and love it, dd was 3 this week and its still going strong! I really haven't got a bad word to say about it, but does seem that I'm in the minority!

Teapot13 Wed 20-Feb-13 18:04:00

Check out gumtree -- we were so overwhelmed by all the (mostly useless) information that it was easier to make ourselves chose from what was available. We saved a lot of money, and if what we bought hadn't worked out it would not have been the end of the world.

As it happens, we bought a Silver Cross 3d. I loved it, and it is on sale now for £235 (about half what it was when we were looking). The car seat that attaches is probably just a bit over £100, so it would fit your budget. We are expecting DC2 imminently and I am HEARTBROKEN that I can't get another 3d because it won't work with a buggy board. (The first one was crushed in the hold of an airline -- not a reflection on its own sturdiness, IMV.)

It is a bit heavy, so if you are going to be getting it in and out of the car all the time it might not be the right thing. We live in central London and almost never use the car, and I used it for food shopping, so I liked having something substantial.

Hai1988 Wed 20-Feb-13 18:27:24

Does anyone have any experiance with [[www.kiddisave.co.uk/store/product/16550/Jane-Muum-Travel-System-2-Herb-2012/ this one?

Hai1988 Wed 20-Feb-13 18:27:53

sorry messed up the link there this

madwomanacrosstheroad Wed 20-Feb-13 19:01:11

Have no experience, however remember a while ago there were warnings out re the safety of the matrix car seat. Not sure about current system but they did extremely poorly in crash tests.
I think which referred to it as dangerous. If you google jane matrix and crash test you will get the info. Usually which and adac.de are quite good and reliable re car seat safety.

Hai1988 Thu 21-Feb-13 07:22:34

Ok thanks, tbh i love the look of the pram/pushchair bit but am.not to sure on the car seat it looks a bit wierd tbh

MrsExcited Thu 21-Feb-13 20:44:04

I have fallen in love with this one and the price here is only just over your budget, the Babystyle, Oyster

www.preciouslittleone.com/product-information/20/20548/babystyle-oyster-silver-stroller-travel-system-package-%28claret%29/

See what you think, it has so many cool features

MrsExcited Thu 21-Feb-13 20:49:11

have just read the posts i missed, sorry for repeating some other posters but i do think the website i have linked to is one of the best deals out there at the moment!

xlatia Thu 21-Feb-13 20:50:53

we love our mamas & papas joolz. i'm a midget but DP is 6"2 so the adujstable and v long handlebar is fab. ticks all the other boxes you've mentioned too and we got ours on ebay for 170 quid off a familiy with 2 DC. so our DS is the 3rd user and it's still going strong 16 months down the line. a few people on busses have commented on how quick and neat it folds, too.
only had to buy the car seat plus adaptors which was around 120 alltogether, iirmc.

Trishstar Thu 21-Feb-13 21:26:33

I love my babystyle oyster! I got the ocean colour pack for it (was part of the deal) and if we ever have a girl all I would have to buy is a different colour pack! Xx

stacey212528 Fri 22-Feb-13 19:36:01

Have you looked at the Obaby Zezu? Seems like it fits your requirements.

Dogsmom Fri 22-Feb-13 19:59:14

We bought the Mamas & Papas Zoom yesterday, it's down to £299 at the moment http://www.mamasandpapas.com/product-zoom-pushchair-package-blackcharcoal/1819b3700/type-i/

You would need to buy the car seat separately though but have a look online, we've managed to get one off Amazon for £35 (only had 1 left), M&P's are currently doing them for £85 in various colours though so not too bad. You also need to buy the adapters to fit it to the frame, £29.99 in M&P's but around £10 - £15 off eBay.

Doesn't come with a foot muff but again cheap off eBay as they are universal.

The things we liked were how light it is, baby can lie flat in the carrycot bit or on the main seat bit, you can turn it to be forward or parent facing very easily, folds very easily and apparently the child can fit into it until 3-4 years of age.

I'm 38 weeks and we rushed into buying a silvercross 3d when I was about 24 weeks pg, it's a lovely looking pram but VERY heavy and I struggle to fold it, it's also quite fiddly fitting the various bits onto, another thing is that only silvercross seats fit their prams and they only do isofix bases and neither of our cars has this, we need a belted base which they don't do so we're suck having to belt the seat in and out every time. We did need 2 prams as we've got a caravan that we use 2-3x a month so are taking it there and using the Zoom for everyday use.

Phineyj Fri 22-Feb-13 20:09:18

www.graco.co.uk/cdetail.php?catCode=45

Another vote for the Graco Evo -- however, your DH should try one first. We are 5' 7'' and 5' 9'' and it's only just high enough for us. V. flexible though and the wheels are extremely easy to fold and even go in my VW Polo.

Phineyj Fri 22-Feb-13 20:16:59

www.graco.co.uk/cdetail.php?catCode=45

Another vote for the Graco Evo -- however, your DH should try one first. We are 5' 7'' and 5' 9'' and it's only just high enough for us. V. flexible though and the wheels are extremely easy to fold and even go in my VW Polo.

£370 for car seat, pram and wheels from Mothercare currently.

kerrywoo Thu 14-Mar-13 19:47:27

I really liked the look of the Cosatto Giggle and bought one for our first born with some money my gran had left me.
It seemed to be ok at first but on only the 4th use it has broken. I haven't been using it much as advised to rest from the cesarean.

We haven't been anywhere but on pavement with it.
The front wheel collapsed as I was pushing it over a tarmac'd car park. The pram above collapsed with the frame and toppled to the ground. It was an extremely frightening experience for me and my two week old baby.

This is a serious design flaw and Cosatto need to fix it. The wheel is clearly not strong enough and there is no safety feature if it fails.

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