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Hyperemesis Support

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LucindaE Wed 09-Jan-13 18:32:37

We need a new thread.

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

I used to include extracts from MOH's wonderful website
but I think that makes this link less visible so am merely putting the link. The information on this site is invaluable.

I would like to thank MOH MOP Ovaltine Caramellokoalalover (I think she's changed her nickname) Fluffy, Horsey Kali and Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.

Marking place. Really bad day...

Oh, and thanks Lucinda blush

Getting bad headaches over past 24 hours and worse nausea/sickness. I've had enough now.

Reebok Wed 09-Jan-13 18:42:54

Thanks Lucinda for sorting new thread. Slightly better today. Just indigestion and heartburn making me feel sick.

Room, sorry to hear its another bad day for you. Here's hoping we will both be well soon and hG will just be a memory.

We must be due near each other, Reebok. It's nice to have a due-month buddy who understands what HG is like (not that I'd wish HG on you!)

Reebok Wed 09-Jan-13 19:51:46

I'm due 22nd July. When are you due Room? I totally agree. It helps to have someone who understands and knows I'm not exaggerating!

My official due date is 11th July but my LMP made it 13th July and second dating scan made it 8th July!

Reebok Wed 09-Jan-13 20:01:18

That's confusing! Lol

nannyl Wed 09-Jan-13 22:02:32

just marking my space...

will be back soonish with update of my manic weeks.....

hope the poorly suffering people improve soon xxx

Reebok Wed 09-Jan-13 23:35:14

Really thought I was getting better guys but spent the evening with my head in a bowl. Think the heartburn and indigestion is making the vomiting worse. I want to cry. Getting pressured into going back to work...my pay will go down soon if I don't and we can't afford it.

I'm like a mad woman...keep talking to bubba and telling it off for making me feel rubbish! Luckily I'm doing it in the privacy of my own home so no one can see my madness except DH (who does give me strange looks when I do it).

Hi Nannyl! You've been missed but hoping you are feeling better...pls give me hope!!

LucindaE Thu 10-Jan-13 12:28:45

Reebok You poor thing, how foul, and how one hates that bowl! But at least the good day is a sign of things to come. Lol about telling baby off. The suffering they cause! Room Sorry to hear about headaches, they just put the top hat on things. It's good you are both due around the same time.
Nannlyl Lovely to hear from you, looking forward to update.

hopeful92 Thu 10-Jan-13 16:28:35

Hi this is my first time on this thread. I'm currently 20+3 with my first. Been suffering all the way through with bad sickness, missioning on through, going to work and everything however it all came to a head before Christmas. I got admitted to hospital and had to stay in for 3 days with severe dehydration. Took 10 drip bags til they were happy I was hydrated enough to go home. Been prescribed Cyclizine which is really helping me to stop being sick. Unfortunately now I'm just absolutely zapped all the time. Been recieving comments off people I know and other mums/pregnant women saying its "just a bit of morning sickness" and that "you would think I was the first woman to ever get morning sickness the way I'm acting" and their personal favourite "you should just be grateful you're pregnant not medicating yourself to the eyeballs to stop a bit of sickness". Its really getting me down now, it's not just a "bit of morning sickness" its all day constant violent throwing up, leaving me unable to eat or drink anything sad sorry for the rant, just sick of people not understanding!

Marking place as not having a good day despite no sickness or nausea yesterday so thought it was passing
Due dc1 19 June
P.s. no dSiL a ginger biscuit will not help!!!

hopeful92 Thu 10-Jan-13 16:50:09

Honestly, if I hear one more time "try a ginger biscuit or dry cracker" I think I will actually scream...

Reebok Thu 10-Jan-13 19:03:42

Thanks Lucinda...I keep praying for this stupid evil illness to end...everytime I feel sick now, I look at the scan. It helps to remind myself why I'm doing this and why I feel so rubbish.

Hopeful, I'm sorry to hear you feel so unwell and welcome. You will get lots of support here, no stupid suggestions of ginger biscuits (eurgh!)...I know exactly what you mean about the ignorance of some people. They just don't get it...hG is nothing like ms!! It's completely different! And please dont worry about ranting...if you can't do it here, where can you?

Littlemiss, sorry to hear you're unwell too. Hang in there...the good days will come for all of us soon enough!

Nexus6 Thu 10-Jan-13 19:15:13

i ran out of tablets over the weekend (damn baby brain!) and so i was a bit sick- I've got cyclizine tabs now but I think the sickness has given me a gum infection. I did have an infection in my gum last time i was really ill and the dentist gave me antibiotics... I really cant handle going on these again my stomach was in so much pain.

Not sure whether I should go to the dentist yet? I really want to try and get this under control with corsidol and deep cleaning.

MotherofPearl Thu 10-Jan-13 22:04:13

Reebok, so sorry to hear you're still stuck in the full horror of it, bowl and all. I think I may have already asked you this so apologies if I'm repeating myself, but have you tried ranitidine for the heartburn? Many women on here have sworn by it, because the heartburn certainly exacerbates the sickness.

Welcome to Hopeful and so sorry to hear that people have been so unsympathetic. Incidently, cyclizine is a very widely-used and well-established drug so people who tell you shouldn't be 'dosing up' on meds during pregnancy (presumably they're thinking about side-effects) should get their facts straight before picking on someone with HG. As you say, it is NOTHING like morning sickness. Actually we employ a Ginger Hit Squad here on the thread, who can easily be dispatched to deal with unhelpful people who mentioned the G-word. wink

Room, hope you've had a better day today?

Lucinda, well done on setting up the new thread with not a single glitch grin, and hope you've recovered now from your migraine.

hopeful92 Thu 10-Jan-13 22:14:28

Nexus sorry to hear your having problems with your teeth - as if hg isn't bad enough without having sore gums!

Reebok thats a fantastic idea, to look at the scan when we feel crappy to remind why we're putting ourselves through this.

I'm hoping to get a scan picture in 2 weeks when I will be 22 weeks as went for one yesterday and the little monkey was facing the wrong way so couldn't get a good angle smile made all the sickness, migraines, tiredness, emotions and back ache so worth it seeing the little wriggler on the screen.

At least we know that it is all for a good cause smile

I'm still being sick. I wish it would stop for today. My dr gave me cyclizine but I can't say I've noticed the difference. They do help me sleep though if I have them during the day I'm out for the count. So good to see this thread, I'm not the only one!!

hopeful92 Thu 10-Jan-13 22:24:23

Littlemiss sorry to hear that you're nit feeling any better after cyclizine - maybe your doctor can prescribe something different? Unfortunately they don't work for everyone sad they have about halved the number of times I'm being sick so at least I can keep some food&water in!! Hope you find something that works for you.

Reebok Fri 11-Jan-13 11:39:36

Mop, I've tried it but doesn't help unfortunately. Waiting for the other gp to return as he will prescribe the other drug...omneprozole (sp?)...current gp wouldn't even prescribe Zantac - had to go to the other one.

LucindaE Fri 11-Jan-13 12:02:59

Welcome to LittleMiss Hopeful and Nexus. Hopeful I am sorry you have been suffering badly so late on - that is tough enough without idiotic self-righteous comments from people. You would think that with all the recent publicity about Hyperemesis people would realise that this is not ordinary M/s. You deserve a medal for still working - I can't imagine how you have managed to keep on - I'm sure the dr would give a sick note after the hospitalisation particularly.
LittleMiss Sorry things aren't improving - so agree with Hopeful that it's a good idea to ask for a change of meds - there are lots they can try which are safe and you shouldn't suffer in silence. I found it difficult to talk on the phone or face to face (as one does, for fear of being sick) but can you get someone to do a bit of talking for you if that applies? Obviously not the SIL who advocates G- B-------.
Nexus Welcome,really sorry to hear of gum infection. That is awful on top of the rest, and I really feel for you about antibiotics. Seems a good idea to avoid them, I wonder if the dentist or GP can think of any way of getting them into you avoiding the stomach, I think I heard of some antibiotic thing that can be applied externally?
Reebok and Room I hope slightly better today?
MOP Lol about the Ginger Hit Squad! grin

Reebok Fri 11-Jan-13 21:27:05

Slightly better day today thanks Lucinda. Mainly the heartburn and indigestion which is rather frustrating as it makes me want to throw up. But so far, only the one! I'm coming up to 13 weeks...only 27 more weeks (hopefully) to go. Trying not to focus on setting myself dates for when hG will end but it's the only thing that gets me through each day. I am secretly praying for a 14 week recovery like one of my sisters...the other recovered at 7 months and mum after labour. Not sure if it will happen though as I felt like I was better on Monday at my scan only to spiral backwards from Tuesday onwards. Probably the happiness from seeing my healthy baby which tricked me into thinking it was gone.

Spoke to work today. The deputy is far more understanding about my situation and being less pushy. Seemed more concerned about my health than the parents who are complaining about me being gone so long whereas, the head teacher is the opposite. The funny thing is the head is female and deputy is male. Anyway we need to arrange a meeting next week in person according to hr and discuss options for further cover. I've been assured that my job is safe which is a relief as I have been stressing.

Wait a minute, my HG seems to have disappeared...

<looks under the sofa>

I'm sure I left it here somewhere grin

I'm onto over 24 hours of not even feeling sick now! This isn't just a bit of an improvement but a swapping of HG to monster appetite!

Reebok Sat 12-Jan-13 11:11:25

Really Room?? That's fantastic! There's hope for me yet!

LucindaE Sat 12-Jan-13 11:28:07

Room That is purely wonderful! Keeping fingers crossed it's taken itself off...
Love that under the sofa comment.
Reebok I didn't realise you had so many relatives who'd suffered too - of course, it makes it more likely that you will but must be a comfort to know that they got through it and know what you are going through.
Hope Everyone is managing?

Reebok Sat 12-Jan-13 12:10:07

One sister understands completely. Mum and the other one on the other hand seem to have forgotten how bad it was and expect me to just snap out of it...they have a 'its all in the mind' attitude! Does my head in. So far, so good. Only the morning vomit. Hopefully that will be it for the day and soon enough I will join Room!

Reebok Sat 12-Jan-13 13:58:33

By the way Room, does that mean even if you don't eat on time, you don't feel nauseous! Oh I'm dreaming of feeling that way!!

Er, no. Apparently not! Eating did cure that problem though. I'm still half expecting to relapse because it's not been long and I'm trying to decrease or even stop meds so that I can get away with no more dude effects! I'd rather keep talking some and feeling good though if I have to. I think I'm surprised by how much better I feel mentally.

Reebok Sat 12-Jan-13 14:30:22

Oh ok. I'm still at the stage where eating doesn't take away the nausea yet and I can sometimes oddly enough feel more nauseous after eating although I'm eating small amounts as often as I can. I seriously cannot see myself doing this again which is why I keep praying bubba is healthy and there are no complications.

hopeful92 Sat 12-Jan-13 15:24:31

Reebok I have found chewable Rennies (spearmint flavour I cant stand peppermint at the mo) to be a god-send for acid-reflux and indigestion, they really do work and are safe in pregnancy (says so on the box!) heartburn n indigestion was making me feel more sick but the Rennies really seem to help. Hope you can find some relief too.

Reebok Sat 12-Jan-13 15:30:29

Thanks Hopeful. Will give it a try!

LucindaE Sat 12-Jan-13 18:50:35

Reebok I am startled anyone can forget just how bad it is - it's been a long time with me, but I have such a grudge against that Hyperemesis...Hope things keep this way for you.
LittleMiss Dare I ask how things are? I'm sure you've got those kesosticks, just in case puking gets too bad...
Apologies to anyone rudely ovrelooked.

nemo08 Sat 12-Jan-13 20:32:12

Hi everyone and sorry to hear you r still suffering sad

We have decided to be masochist and ttc again. Currently waiting for af and then we will start.we got lucky straight away last time so realistically i could be hit by hg in 6 weeks time eek
I hope most of you will have waived hg goodbye by then!

hopeful92 Sat 12-Jan-13 20:38:07

Just checking in.

Bad day today - struggled to eat anything, felt massively nauseous all day sad thought I was getting over the worst of it but apparently not. Trying to hammer the fluids so I don't get dehydrated from being sick again.

Reebok Sat 12-Jan-13 20:41:24

My sister acts like I'm exaggerating although she's experienced it and whenever I say how bad I feel, she tells me to 'woman up' as she had it worse! She should surely understand that all stages of HG are horrible! She's always been like that though. The other one is very supportive though and always checking on me. Pity she lives 3 hours away.

Wow nemo, that's great! Hopefully this time you won't be struck down with HG. Yes and defo hope those suffering (including myself) will be HG free soon!

Reebok Sat 12-Jan-13 20:43:35

Hopeful so sorry to hear its been a bad day. I've done the same with the fluids today or tried anyway! Starting to feel weak n dizzy today so not sure if it's low iron or possible dehydration. Really hope you feel better soon.

hopeful92 Sat 12-Jan-13 21:51:40

Managed a little bit of a smoothie so thats helped with the sugar level a bit, so feeling a bit less dizzy after that. reebok you tried ice pops? Great for dehydration smile

Gonna go to bed n hopefully wake up feeling slightly more human tomorrow, fingers crossed!

Grrrrr, threw up with very little warning this morning. Had to throw up in DS's potty! I've decided one throw up first thing in the morning is allowed but no more!

Reebok Sun 13-Jan-13 09:53:35

Hopeful, yes I've tried ice lollies. Was addicted to them for weeks on end and now I've got a stack in my freezer I can barely stand to look at.

Room, I'm sorry to hear you've had a rough morning. I think the morning throw up is unfortunately guaranteed...well with me anyway. Very rare to have a day without it. I'd rather that than the constant vomiting and nausea all day though. Fingers crossed its the only one!!

PineapplePol Sun 13-Jan-13 14:14:01

Hello! News from the Pink Castle - baby Katy arrived safely in the early hours of Wednesday morning. She was 5 days late and it felt like the pregnancy with all its nausea and throwing up would never end. That got very much worse in the last 3 weeks (but I have been ill the whole way through). But when she decided to get a wriggle on, she arrived in just under 2 hours and although I felt sick in labour, cuddling the vomit bowl was as far as I got! It's so nice not to be feeling sick every evening and to be able to eat properly again. I still have issues with certain foods -a texture thing I think, but thats a small price to pay.

Katy is so gorgeous and I'm so loved up that needless to say, I've forgiven her everything! Thank you to everyone for your support over the last few months. This has been one of the most difficult things I've ever had to deal with and finding people who understand made a big difference.

Now, does anyone know anything about sore nipples .....? Onto the next problem!!!

LucindaE Sun 13-Jan-13 15:12:18

Pinapple Wonderful, congratulations thanksthanks Welcome to the World to baby Katy! You were very brave, and suffered pretty badly. I am so delighted for you, I was thinking of you the other day, and that nappy changing inducing pukes. I'm so glad this thread helped you. Sore nipples, I remember 'em - but I honestly don't remember what I did!
I so agree about ice lollies. I have often mumbled on about them, though not quite as much as I have pestered everyone to get kesosticks because it's so easy to get dehydrated quickly. Sometimes they (ice lollies,not kesosticks) are the only thing that will stay down, don't ask me why, because tepid water did, too, sometimes... I used flat coke frozen as ice cubes, too...

SBoz12 Sun 13-Jan-13 20:27:16

Hi guys, I'm new to mumsnet and just noticed the thread and thought i would offer a bit of support. I had bad HG in my pregnancy and looked on net for support and answers every day. I found that there were loads of people suffering but no answers to any questions as all those that had recovered didn't come back to give support to others.
A couple of tips - eat chicken or turkey pieces on white bread (I got this tip from someone else) something to do with quick carbs filling you up, until you throw up again that is, ice pops help and don't taste too bad coming back up, same goes for tropicana still pink lemonade - I drank two bottles a day 'cos I was so thirsty!
Remember you will get through it, it might be next week or next month but it will stop and you will be able to enjoy your pregnancy.
If I can be of any help to anyone let me knowsmile

hopeful92 Mon 14-Jan-13 09:36:27

Hi everyone, just checking in.

Stuck in the house today, partially due to a poorly sick pooch, partially due to the snow! (dont fancy slipping over!!)

Cleaning a dog crate where the dog has "messed" due to being poorly does not help my sickness sad stupid other half just went to work and left it for me, I am not happy.

On a brighter note, at least I get to have a chilled out day with my poorly pooch (so long as she doesnt make a mess again!) x

Familyguyfan Mon 14-Jan-13 11:23:52

Hi everyone

I'm not sure if I belong here, but never mind. I had fairly awful morning sickness with my DD but certainly not hyperemesis. It lasted 20 weeks but I survived and she is totally worth it!

I'm now 6 weeks pregnant and feel like a troll you would find living under a bridge. I have all day nausea, am sick frequently, can't keep anything down (even water), have dizzy spells and just generally feel awful. I've given in and made a doctors appointment for later today but feel like a fraud.

I've got a deadline looming at work but I just can't pull myself together enough to work properly!

Reebok Mon 14-Jan-13 11:47:05

Congrats pineapple and thank you sboz for your support. Hopeful, are you feeling any better? I had a dreadful day yesterday. Felt so sick and was being sick constantly so struggled to eat pretty much anything. Feels like in going backwards. So far, I've thrown up once today and nothing seems to taste slightly decent. Meant to have a hr meeting with work this week. Don't know how il manage it.

Familyguyfan, it sounds like you may be suffering from hyperemesis, especially considering you can't even keep down water. Defo get checked out by the doc and let them know how bad you feel. Hopefully, early treatment will help you by stopping the sickness develop into full blown hG.

Congrats to Pineapple!

Familyguyfan go to the GP ASAP and chat to them about it. You don't want to leave it until you have to go in to hospital. If you start taking some medication now, hopefully you can get on top of it.

Reebok, I'm fed up of not knowing how good a day is going to be. If I don't do much, I'm definitely better than when I try to 'appear normal' in front of the kids and do things that they want to. Having said that, I still took DD2 and DS out into the garden to play in the snow grin

Reebok Mon 14-Jan-13 13:43:18

Room, wish I had the energy to go outside. I haven't been for a walk since my scan last Monday. It was the last time I felt decent. Forced myself everyday to get out of bed and have taken to laying on the sofa because I dont want to go back to being bed bound again. Bored out of my mind though cos can't really watch tv. The movement and sound seems to make me nauseous. Forcing myself to eat little bits too but as you know, it's difficult. Oh how I wish I woke up this morning feeling like me again! I'm officially 13 weeks...was hoping it would be like a light switch going on and I'd stop feeling rubbish. sad hg sucks!

LucindaE Mon 14-Jan-13 13:56:30

Family Welcome, poor you, it sounds awful, I can't imagine how you are managing to work, and I so agree with others, do make an appointment to get meds from a Dr, you can't struggle on like this, and I think you first you need kesosticks (available from chemists) to check for dehydration, it sounds bad. If it's 3+ unfortunately you'll have to go straight to A and E for rehydration, I do hope it isn't and you can catch it in time.
Reebok and Room So sorry that you are both feeling like rubbish. Cyber hugs. It is so depressing and isolating. The only comfort is, at least its awful weather out there. Time is passing, but it must seem like a snail's journey. If you've had any good days, more are sure to come (I bet you are fed up with me saying that). Sadly, for almost everyone, it's at least week fourteen before you will begin to feel slightly human, on top of everything else, this hangs around far longer than the ordinary MS. I think Nannyl got a lot of relief at about thirteen weeks but that is lucky!
Thinking of Everyone.

Reebok Mon 14-Jan-13 15:22:19

I'm so fed up of feeling like this! I feel like I've been poisoned...I know that's an awful thing to say, but it's the truth. I wish I could enjoy being pregnant but it's just torture. I hate the horrible taste I have in my mouth constantly and I miss enjoying eating and drinking simple things like water in chugs. So so so fed up!!! Praying for relief ASAP for all of us currently suffering.

hopeful92 Mon 14-Jan-13 16:02:46

Reebok So sorry to hear you're feeling so terrible, hg is cruel sad I know what you mean about the horrible taste, and I miss being able to enjoy food. I'm a bit of a "foodie" and really enjoy cooking and trying new foods, experimenting with new tastes and stuff, so it's pretty rubbish not being able to eat and enjoy anything. And not being able to "chug" water is a nightmare - especially when you are so so thirsty and all you want to do is down a pint of water, yet all you can manage is a measly sip, it's pretty frustrating!

I'm 21 weeks tomorrow, and the sickness is getting a bit better because of the medication (Cyclizine) but the nausea is still pretty bad. I'm still awaiting"glowing" stage everyone harks on about... Was told it would appear in my 2nd trimester, that was nearly 8 weeks ago! Felt a bit better since coming out of hospital, but still not quite human.

Sorry, I always feel like I'm being a right whinging cow everytime I have a rant in here.

Fingers crossed we all find some relief soon, and you poor lot aren't still suffering at 21 weeks! Wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy!

Reebok Mon 14-Jan-13 16:06:00

Thanks hopeful. I'm pretty annoyed at my gp. Wouldn't give another sick note over the phone and has asked me to come in to surgery in 45 minutes. It's bad enough I feel rubbish and am expected to leave my house just to be signed off. He saw me a week ago and I clearly wasn't exaggerating then! Stupid men!!

hopeful92 Mon 14-Jan-13 16:15:56

Eugh, doctors are really peeing me off at the moment, you shouldn't be expected to go down to the surgery when you're feeling so rubbish. No one seems to have had much luck with GPs.

Reebok Mon 14-Jan-13 17:00:35

I hate that gp! He rushes appointments, is convinced no drug is safe in preg and refuses to prescribe me anything new. The other gp is away and would have prescribed me omneprozole or whatever it's called but this stupid man wont although I showed him to the printed out information the other doc gave me last time. So frustrating! Has signed me off for another 2 weeks.

LucindaE Mon 14-Jan-13 18:34:36

Reebok Indignant thoughts about that GP angry. I don't see why he has to see you if he only saw you a week ago. I suppose in a way it is the body reacting as though poisoned.
Hopeful Are you somehow managing to go to work still? I find that astounding. Ghoulelocks on this thread just weeks ago developed Hyperemesis late on, was made to go into work (teaching) to qualify for ml and then went into labour at school. I thought it barbaric!
Family I've just realised you had a dr's appointment already - silly me - how did it go? [mutters about the value of kesosticks, ice lollies, etc).
Rooom How are things? Littlemiss and Everyone?

Reebok Mon 14-Jan-13 20:40:19

I want to die! Vomited 4 times today so it's gone back up again from twice a day. Everything tastes and looks disgusting. At least before I could stomach ice lollies. Now I can't bare to look at them. On top of it, DH came home knackered so he's already in bed...I want to kick him out. I was starting to come to terms with the his smell and could cope but for the past 2 nights and now, his breath is making me want to puke!! I can't stand it!

Oh, Reebok, I feel your pain. It's just not fair getting worse after getting a bit better.

Lucinda, I'm not great but not awful either. I'm trying to cope with stemetil as GP is reluctant to keep paying for ondansetron. I'll argue my case if it doesn't work though. I am very tired today and still have another day to cope with before I get to my two child free mornings. I do seem to be much better when I can just sleep whenever I want to.

hopeful92 Tue 15-Jan-13 09:22:38

Lucinda Yeah, still working - in Greggs of all places, the smell of pies makes me want to die sometimes! Taken off a couple of weeks - one when I had the most horrific 4 day migraine that I couldn't lift my head and one week when I was in hospital, but I came out on the Sunday and was back the following Thursday lol. To be honest, the only reason is because I am not contracted enough hours to get reasonable sick pay, and really cannot afford not to have the pennies coming in at the moment. It's bloody hard work, but I only work 3 or 4 days a week so battling on through smile Besides, been this sick since 4 weeks, that was 17 weeks ago! Think my boss would have had a heart attack if I'd had that long off!

hopeful92 Tue 15-Jan-13 09:26:03

This is also what makes it even more irritating, because I have had people say "Well you can't have hypremesis if you have been going to work" Well yes actually, I have passed out 4 times at work from being poorly, and literally felt like death, Only had 4 hour and 6 hour shifts, and ran to the toilet every 10-20 minutes to be sick. Fun stuff! But to be honest, I'm done giving a crap about anyone's opinions on the matter any more! (That wasn't aimed at you lot by the way, it's people I work, live nd socialise with). xx

LucindaE Tue 15-Jan-13 09:27:56

Reebok You poor, poor thing, offeirng gentle cyber pats, if it's that frequent, might the dr not change meds, as these are obviously not working, which ones did you say you are on?
I so know what you mean about the smell of OH's. I used to be right over on the the other side of the bed, holding a lavender sachet to my nose, but not everyone can stand lavender. Annoying of him to go to bed as if he is allowed to have any bad days! That's how I felt, too. He can't be feeling as bad as you for sure.
Room I'm glad you feel combatative about getting ondansetron. It can be so hard to fight your corner when feeling ill. Congratulations on being up and coping with two kids, my goodness...
Glances about anxiously, mutters about kesosticks, and leaves.

Reebok Tue 15-Jan-13 11:47:42

Thanks guys. Lucinda, I'm on cyclizine and metroclopramide...seems to make me feel worse so have cut down on the second pill mentioned. My doc refuses to give anything else. I've given him the information which shows which meds are ok in pregnancy and have been used by 100s of women. Says I'm free to go to another gp but unfortunately there are no hG friendly docs on my area so I will have to simply battle on and suffer.

Hopeful, I don't know how you do it! Hard enough to go into the kitchen.
Room, glad you feel a bit better. Here's hoping you will feel completely human and hG free soon!

hopeful92 Tue 15-Jan-13 12:19:34

Reebok Trust me, some days I have gone in and wanted to turn around and leave. Got sent home one day, my boss was like "what good are you to me when you're in the bathroom all day just go home". I wouldn't have minded, but she said it in such a way that was quite abrupt! Then again, she doesn't have children so has never had to be at work whilst pregnant. Working with ovens is really bad, the heat has made me pass out before. I put the air conditioning on full then other staff members whinge that they are cold - go put your jumper on!! We get provided with jumpers as part of our uniform, it's not my fault you refuse to wear it. Not fair sad

Room Hope you're completely hg free soon, glad to hear you are feeling a little better - it's a bit of a journey this hg business!

Lucinda I'm with you on the smell of OH, it doesn't help that he breaks wind in his sleep, disgusting man... Lol. I'm finding things like that oh so irritating at the moment, normally if he burped I would laugh it off, whereas at the moment it's enough to make me want to physically strangle him..... Slightly worried I will be writing to you lovely ladies from prison haha.

Hope everyone is having a good day. I've managed some pasta on its own for lunch - nice carb hit! Hit the scales this morning, the total weight loss since getting pregnant is now 2 stone 4lbs! I was overweight (healthy but overweight) to start with, so it's not such a terrible thing smile

Reebok Tue 15-Jan-13 13:48:03

Hopeful, your boss doesn't sound very nice. Unfortunately even women who have been pregnant don't understand hG unless they've experiences it eg my boss. Oh I managed to buy some rennie today so hoping it will work on the acid indigestion and help me feel slightly better. Glad you've managed to eat something substantial. Unfortunately I'm still stuck on toast and starburst now to get rid of that horrible taste in my mouth!

hopeful92 Tue 15-Jan-13 14:22:13

That taste you're on about is just disgusting! Every time I eat something, or even if I don't, I'm left with a horrible, sour, bitter taste that won't shift no matter how many times I brush my teeth, use mouth wash, floss, chew gum etc. It's so annoying!

And Reebok you're right, my boss isn't very nice! Luckily my assistant manager had hg (she didn't know it was hg at the time as it wasn't as widely known about when she had her children 17 years ago) and so she understands how I feel. She had it the entire pregnancy, and has that lovely "motherly" nature about her so looks after me smile she's wht got me through those worst days at work to be honest!

Reebok Tue 15-Jan-13 15:57:28

That's lucky you have some support Hopeful.

For those of you who have experienced hG more than once, when it stopped for you, did it suddenly just stop? Like a light being turned on...or was it gradual?

Nomorevom Tue 15-Jan-13 16:43:13

Reebok I am on my third hg pregnancy ( 10 weeks now) and I was still on medication until I gave birth even had an anti emetic injection while in labour.

With dd1 (who is 9) i was sick 60 times a day and doctor was very unsympathetic, I lost over three stone and was signed off work for nearly the whole of my pregnancy. My doctor would only give me metroclopramide (doesn't work for me at all)

Dd2 (2 next week) I was in hospital on a drip by ten weeks as even my own spit was making me sick and really high ketones. I was on cyclizine and stemetil (3 of each a day ) and just about survived by doing as little as possible. Poor dh was doing a 12 hour day, sometimes more, and then coming home and running the house.

With this pregnancy I went to the gp with a list of what I wanted , cyclizine 50mg 3 times a day, stemetil 10mg 2 times a day, b6 10 mg 4 times a day and ranitidine 150mg 1 in the morning 1 at night.

Gp didn't argue just gave me the prescriptions, it's was Xmas eve and I had to go to the surgery by bus without an appointment because no was answering the phones, had both dds with me and was ready for a fight because I'd had enough.

Touch wood I have my bad days but no where near as bad. The ranitidine has been a life saver as the indigestion just makes the nausea and sickness twice as bad.

It might be best if you take someone with you when you see the gp as they can tell him how bad you are. Hg takes over the whole of your body and its hard to put one foot in front of the other somedays never mind argue with a bloody unsympathetic gp.

I know it's really bad now but let yourself have a cry and get mad.

hopeful92 Tue 15-Jan-13 17:27:31

Nomorevom I really understand where you're coming from with the unsympathetic GP. I went to mine at 9 weeks as I was starting to not be able to even keep liquids down, and he basically told me to "eat ice pops and ginger biscuits" i was just my body 'getting used to being pregnant' Went to 3 different doctors and was told the same thing by all of them, just sent away and told to get on with it basically. One even asked if I planned the pregnancy and then had the cheek to say "Well you wanted to get pregnant..."!!!. Midwife wasn't much more helpful to be honest, but was slightly more sympathetic.

I was being told that it was normal to have sickness and that I was making a big deal and I was believing this because it is my first pregnancy, and I didn't know what to expect or how it felt. At 17 and a half weeks I finally decided enough was enough as I was practically a zombie, and couldn't keep water down, even my own spit was making me gag. I rang the out of hours and they sent me to A&E who rushed me to the bigger hospital 20 mins away with severe dehydration. I was in for 3 days on a drip and had very high ketones like you.

I think it is disgusting that the doctor just sent me away without any medication or anything. If I had been given the anti sickness drugs in the firt place I would not have had these problems and I would not have been putting my baby at risk. Luckily everything was ok at the 20 week scan and somehow my baby is within the correct size range for gestation period (phew!)

Nomorevom Tue 15-Jan-13 18:08:38

Hopeful when I went for my 12 week scan with dd2 the 'helpful' hca was telling me about a poor lady who had had an abortion as she just couldn't cope with the sickness anymore then proceeded to tell me all about the raw meat she had got for her tea!!

I just sat there nodding and smiling at how daft some people are. It really annoys me how some just dismiss hg as a 'being a bit sick and a normal part of pregnancy' but it isn't just the physical effects its how down it gets you, it's a mental emotional and physical illness.

hopeful92 Wed 16-Jan-13 08:26:57

Oh gosh raw meat lol. Problem is, some sickness is normal, its just hormones, but what people people just don't understand is that hg isn't morning sickness, it's a completely seperate problem. Wish people would just understand that.

LucindaE Wed 16-Jan-13 12:55:05

Goodness, I am in shock at the barbaric treatment people have received. It was so with me, but that was years ago, and I was hoping medical people were beginning to understand a bit better now that there is all the difference in the world between normal sickness and not being able to retain water, that sufferers are not whinging angry.
Hopeful Surely you should be signed off work? Won't the GP give you a sick note. I am worried about such a level of sickness, surely the doctor can give something more effective? Does he realise how frequent the vomiting is? Can you get an appointment with a consultant, saying you can't cope with this level of vomiting? I'm worried you are dehydrated already if you are being sick every ten minutes at work it must be inevitable, and fatigue and stress will make it even worse. What an awful manager, I'm glad there is a kind under manager who suffered herself. Did you say you have to work with hot ovens and food? How on earth do you manage to keep the vomiting back until you reach the loo - I wouldn't be able to, for sure. I'm worried you'll be back in hospital in no time.
Reebok I am so dismayed about the penny pinching GP. I suppose you don't feel up to asking to see a consultant?
Nomore I am glad you've got meds that help this time, but my goodness, with the first, 60 times a day and only given metracloprimide! You must have been terribly dehydrated.
Hugs to all.

Reebok Wed 16-Jan-13 14:28:54

Nomore and hopeful, that sounds awful. It's shocking how little the medical profession know about hG. Hopeful, I agree that you need to get signed off. I can't cope with teaching children so haven't worked since nov! I don't know how you can manage to work with the dreaded f word!

Lucinda, I've given up. When I have my midwife appointment, I may ask the consultant there. By the way, you said your hG stopped by 14 weeks right? Well was it sudden or gradual? Praying for a 14 week end to this misery. I miss being me. Sorry to moan so much everyone. It's just such a strain on life...especially my marriage. We've only been married a year.

Room, how are you feeling today? And everyone else? Hope you're a bit better.

hopeful92 Wed 16-Jan-13 15:37:46

Lucinda I'm not being sick that frequently now - the tablets are helping to curb it to only a couple of times a day now - I did get very very dehydrate and was hospitalized because of it. If I had got signed off, I wouldn't have got paid! I'm only contracted a small number of hours (even though I work more).

Reebok You're not moaning smile hope you get sorted by 14 weeks. I've hit the 21 week mark lol hopefully won't need to take cyclizine for the entire pregnancy, but if I can't cope without them then I'm gonna have to. Pre tablets I was sick every half hour - more at work - but since the tablets it's reduced to a couple of times in a morning, just plagued with nausea all day unfortunately.

Hang in there ladies, it will all be worth it when we get our babies in our arms smile

Gatorade Wed 16-Jan-13 17:48:41

Hi all, I was hoping I wouldn't be venturing onto this thread with this pregnancy, but here I am.

I'm about 6 weeks with number 2, I had awful sickness with DD (who is now 11 months old) and spent my (un)fair share of time in hospital hooked up to a drop when I was pregnant with her.

I honestly thought I was going to get away with it this time, no sickness or nausea at all until I woke up this morning and have vomited around 20 times since. The memories of how awful it is are coming flooding back, I feel miserable.

LucindaE Wed 16-Jan-13 18:49:00

Gatorade You poor thing,hugs, how awful. Can you get an emergency appointment with a dr? I think you'll be dehydrated before morning if this doesn't stop. As you've been there before you don't need me to say how easy that is. The name makes me think you're in the US, not sure though? If not and I say have you got kesosticks from a chemists to check urine to see if you are then you'll know what I mean but not sure what they are called in the US?
Quite anxious about you - do keep us informed.
Reebok Really sorry you feel so bad again. It is so exhausiting having to fight your corner with medical people when you feel too bad to do anything at all. I hope it does work out at the MW appointment. Mine went of at coming up fifteen weeks. It was dramatic, it responded brilliantly to acupuncture, but I gather, that is hit or miss. Things spiralled out of control at coming up to ten weeks, I was in a terrible state when I staggered to an emergency appointment with an acupunturist in despair having been in bed for a couple of days after the dr refused meds - usual story - but I managed to avoid having to go for IV because the treatment worked! I didn't understand the dangers of dehydration then - the acupunturist told me if the vomiting didn't stop within a couple of hours after the treatment I'd have to report for IV but it eased off a bit and I was able to retain water. I had a few more treatments and it eased off from then on. Unfortunaely, other women on this thread haven't found it nearly so helpful. I had residual heartburn leading often leading to nausea and occasional puking throughout, though, and a miserable bland diet. The dr of course, refused meds for that...
Hopeful Thank goodness for that, I was horrified at the thought of you continuing in that state. For all that, 'only' twice a day is still draining.
Apologies to anyone rudely overlooked.

Gatorade Wed 16-Jan-13 19:20:02

LucindaE - Thank you very much for your lovely message, it's so nice to be able to talk to people who actually understand and don't just tell me to eat ginger biscuits. I'm actually in the UK so everything made sense (alrhough my user name i think is a US hydration drink...strangely fitting!)

I've got some ketostix, only reading +1 for ketones at the minute, if I remember correctly if it gets to +2 then I used to have to go to hospital to be rehydrated and sorted out. I've made a GP appointment for tomorrow morning, it's so much harder with DD to look after too, she seemed quite upset by the vomiting but luckily DH is home now and putting her to bed. I really want to avoid hospital admissions this time round. Unfortunately the medication didn't really help first time around but the worst of the sickness passed on its own just before 30 weeks (which feels a long way away at the minute!)

Everyone else - sorry to hear I'm not on my own, sending you lots of anti-sickness vibes!

LucindaE Thu 17-Jan-13 09:15:20

Gatorade Thank goodness the ketone reading is still low, you wouldn't think it would be after so much being sick. I remember gatorade from when a US woman asked me to take over her thread for a bit! Good luck at Dr's today, I do hope s/he prescribes something that does a good job. Do you find ice lollies or sips of flat coke any use at all? Weirdly enough, sips of warm water sometimes stayed down with me, too.
We don't seem to have heard from First in a while...

BelleEtLaBete Thu 17-Jan-13 11:01:44

Hi: I poked my head into the last thread and was hoping I might not need this one... But I'm freaking out slightly so here I am.

Have been on metaclooramide for a couple of weeks, but started vomiting anyway so have been swapped to stemetil buccal tablets yesterday. Am in bed off work with a chest infection and trying not to feel panicky that I'm going to have serious hg this time again no matter what I do. I really hoped that medicating Pre-emptively would help. I HAVE to be able to work this time.

Hg nearly killed me before, in an indirect way. I was very dehydrated for a long time, and basically immobile. I broke my foot when ds was 4 months old and got a DVT which ended up in about thirty bits in my lungs. I almost died in A&e and was in hosp for over a month. I am so frightened of being that ill again. I've spent the last 2 years in and out of hospital and all linked back to the hg I had in my last pg.

I'm so scared but I feel like I can't talk about it to relatives. They just see me not being that sick at the moment and just kind of hmm at me. Am I allowed to come here and just vent my fears a little, even if I'm not really being very sick ATM? Every wave of nausea makes me remember last time and I think I am overreacting a little.

BelleEtLaBete Thu 17-Jan-13 11:06:09

Oh and ps: if another person says 'well Kate Middleton's got that and she seems ok now' I am going to punch them. Irrational, but true.

LucindaE Thu 17-Jan-13 11:20:54

Belle Of course, come on and vent all you like, that's what this thread is for amongst other things! I am so sorry about those awful complications - was it due to lack of protein making the bones weaker? I have to say I was unlucky too - my migraines have been much worse since that run in with Hyperemesis, I think the hormonal unbalance got much worse, but I don't want people who get migraines to think that's typical or inevitable.
No wonder you are apprehensive! I think you might have to try and few meds, lots of people find the first one's just don't do the job properly and end up on a cocktail (babies fine, of course!) of Ondansetron, cyclezine, B6 etc...I do so hope you can keep on working, a few woman on this thread have somehow kept going, I sometimes wonder how, and how they managed not to puke on the floor all the time, I would have. If you do have to get a sick note for at least part of the time, can it be done financially if you don't mind me asking? (well, I always say there's no tmi on this thread, lol!)
I think Kate Middleton will have access to all sorts of sophisticated treatments not available to the commoners on the NHS and also she may have been one of the lucky ones who are more or less over it at fourteen weeks or so...

Reebok Thu 17-Jan-13 11:24:25

Thanks Lucinda for that info...looks like I will just have to hang on and pray it ends soon. Slightly better morning today. Actually avoided my morning throw up but still felt sick to stomach until I ate. Finding it hard to find things to eat...I now officially hate toast having lived on it so long! So moved on to crossaints...unhealthy yes? But who cares!!

Welcome Gatorade. I hope you get medicated ASAP and have a helpful doc. No suggestion on the dreaded disgusting g.biccies on this thread!

Belle that sounds awful! Hopefully you are not hit with bad hG this time! To both Belle and Gatorade, we are here for support! I've said this many times...this thread is a lifeline. I couldn't have gotten through the past 2 months without the support of these lovely ladies...especially Lucinda and MOP. So please make sure you use it.

BelleEtLaBete Thu 17-Jan-13 11:35:55

Thank you.

The break was from a nasty fall I had. But they think my blood was thick after the hg (all linked to movement with me so I was laid up on the sofa a lot of the pg), so I got the DVT and then the PE's. I am usually so healthy but the last 2 years have been very tough. The Hg had me in hospital, then the foot, then the PE's (I had pneumonia and various complications). Then a couple of months later I got Guillian Barre syndrome and the doc in hospital tied that back to the hg too, saying my body had been through so much that my own immune system was attacking me.

I'm not even being very sick. Just once in the morning and afternoon. Im only 6+6 today and it never stopped last time, only eased after 16 weeks. I had a huge migraine at 16+2 and it was noticeably better the next day onwards.

Stuffing my face and slurping all the water I can: just loads of stodgy carbs at the moment, and cheese. I was advised last time by my very brilliant gp to avoid iron rich food like beef and acidic food like citrus as these apparently can make hg worse. So I'm avoiding them where possible. Turkey and bananas are supposed to be helpful - I lived off Bernard Matthews turkey drumsticks last time! Also, I find freezing a banana and sort of slurping it like a lolly really helped. Turkey and banana have lots of potassium in which is supposed to be anti-emetic. DH used to roast me a whole turkey leg and leave it for me to pick at all day. He used to call me Henry 8th!

Migraine seems to be a common topic here. Does anyone know if its linked?

Also, anyone had good results on stemetil? I've changed to that yesterday.

Familyguyfan Thu 17-Jan-13 11:43:28

Hi everyone

Sorry for not coming back. I felt so awful I couldn't seem to pull myself together enough to get on the Internet.

Doctor has confirmed very bad morning sickness but I am not dehydrated yet. He is keeping an eye on me and I am now off work. He's been brilliant, as have my family and I'm hoping I will start to feel better soon. Good luck everyone. Feel better soon!

MotherofPearl Thu 17-Jan-13 13:52:36

Hi all,
Apologies for being silent for ages. I've noticed that Reebok has been having a dreadful time of it and also that we have some newbies/returnees, but have not had time to post as work has been frantic. angry Reebok, how are you now? Any luck with the Rennies? I found them a godsend. What you said upthread about missing 'being you' really struck a chord. I so remember that feeling, and thinking about how HG robs you of your whole identity, not just your health and any enjoyment of being pregnant. It does put a strain on relationships, too. While I would love a 3rd DC (mad?), my DP has said there's no way he's putting up with me having HG again.

How is Room now? Still on the up I hope.

Gatorade, I'm pretty sure I remember you from before. I think your baby was due a couple of months after mine. Hope this time around is not as bad.

Belle, it's no wonder you feel anxious, after that dreadful chain of events set off by HG last time. What a horrendous story. As Lucinda says, you may well have to try a number of different combinations of drugs before you hit on the best one for you.

Hope everyone else is holding up OK, and apologies to anyone rudely ignored.

hopeful92 Thu 17-Jan-13 14:24:53

Hope everyone is having a good day today. I've had a pretty crumby one to be honest sad can't keep any food down today but thankfully have managed to keep some pineapple juice down so that will at least give me a bit of sugar.

Gatorade Hope your ketones stay at +1, think mine were +5 when I was in hospital last time and I felt very rotten. Have definately learnt my lesson and will not be letting myself get so dehydrated again!

Belle You're not overreacting at all, your last experience sounds terrible, and is bound to play on your mind this time. Just keep an eye on things and don't let things get too bad smile

And if one more person tells me to eat a ginger biscuit or compares me to Kate Middleton I won't be responsible for my actions... I even had someone ask me why I wasn't wearing makeup as "Kate manages to keep up her appearane with hypremesis" shock

Reebok Thu 17-Jan-13 14:34:51

MOP, how did you manage 3?? I can't see myself doing this again and nor can DH! It's really put a strain on our relationship and I don't think I could handle it again. Having an okish day...don't want to jinx myself though as I've said it before and half an hour later...well you all know the drill! Rennies help slightly. They taste awful...not as bad as gavsicon though. Carried on with Zantac...helping slightly too but not great unfortunately. 26 and a half weeks....I can do this!

Lol hopeful @kate Middleton! She has to put makeup on...she's a princess! Lol we fortunately are not in the public eye so it doesn't matter if we sit in our pjs all day looking like a tramp (I am Defo one big tramp! I don't recognise myself anymore!) Hope you feel better soon Hopeful..,tomorrow is another hG day guys. Hang in there wonderful ladies!

Welcome back family....sorry to hear you feel so bad. Yes Defo try to keep those fluids up (I know it's hard to...I'm using a straw so I don't drink more than I can and throw it all up).

Reebok Thu 17-Jan-13 14:35:36

Mop, misread that...realize you have 2...but even with 2, you deserve a medal!

Hey All. Still very up and down here depending on how much I do/how much rest I get. I'm trying to take on more child care/domestic stuff slowly so that DH isn't missing lectures but that does really take it out of me and makes me feel much worse. Unfortunately you can't go off sick from looking after your own children. I so wish that I could!

hello everyone! Just popping in for some tea and retching sympathy wink Just been reading through the thread and really feel for you all. HG is the worst!!

This is my third pg - I had bad HG with DS who was born in Aug 2010, and I was pretty sick (but not as bad) the last time round but I had mmc at 10 weeks. I half believed the reason I wasn't so sick last time around was because it wasn't my first time round and HG is supposed to mainly affect first timers...tho obviously a quick browse of Mumsnet show how often that is not the case! Anyway, I think it's more likely that I just wasn't as sick the last time because pg wasn't developing as it should have but hindsight is a great thing!

Now I am pg for 3rd time, 10+6, and last 3 weeks have been living hell. I went on to cyclazine straight away because I waited til 9 weeks with DS and it nearly got me hospitalized so I knew it was important not to let it get out of hand but I've been signed off work, I'm basically bed ridden round the clock and I can't look after DS on my own so I've had to draft in extra hours from childminder and get my mum, MIL and my aunties to pitch in to help me, and DH has been doing all the housework.

I know I'm very lucky to have a good support system and a very understanding boss in work but I am really at the end of my tether. The vomiting is horrific some days but even the days when it is not so bad it's the round the clock nausea and dizziness that are just sucking the life out of me, Too tired and sick to read or anything, so just mindlessly watching daytime tv!!

Have an appointment with acupuncturist tomorrow since it's probably the only thing I haven't tried before but since acupressure, ginger and hypnosis cds haven't really worked I'm not holding out a lot of hope. My only ray of light is that with DS it stopped just before 14 weeks so if it follows the same pattern this time round I should only have 2 or 3 more weeks of this. But there's a part of my brain telling me that it might be different this time and I could be stuck with this for another 29 weeks!!!! shock confused

hopeful92 Thu 17-Jan-13 16:57:03

LittleMiss Oh no, so sorry to hear you're suffering, sounds awful sad You're right to go on cyclizine straight away, I left it til 17 weeks and it took 10 drip bags to rehydrate me, so definately keep the fluids up!! (Ice pops have been a godsend for me when I coudn't keep water down). Hope you feel better soon x

hopeful - 10 drip bags!!! shock You poor thing sad

motherofpearl - I'm the same as you, I always wanted 3 or 4 but I am never going through this again, no way!! 2 will have to do, I just wanted DS to have a brother or sister but otherwise I would have stopped with 1. HG is possibly the ultimate cure to any feelings of broodiness! However if no. 2 turns out to be another boy I will probably be a bit fidgety about wanting to have a girl. But I hope people remind me very firmly that I really don't want to do this again!!!

Kate Middleton...ah yes... it's quite convenient she has been so publicly ill because it means when people look at you blankly when you tell them how sick you've been you can tell them, 'you know, like Kate Middleton, I have what she has'. On the other hand, have no private hospital to retreat to, no palace to recuperate in and no army of stylists/make up artists to make me look ok when I am able to venture out of house so she is making us all look bad!! (Sorry Kate, it's not your fault!)

PS) LucindaE - that link is brilliant, reading through it all now. I have been off work for a couple of weeks and I'll prob be off next week as well, but I'd like to be able to go in even for a couple of hours at a time the week after and all the advice on stuff to take with you when you are out and about is really helpful..

LucindaE Fri 18-Jan-13 10:45:17

LittleMiss Welcome, love the name - sorry you are suffering so much. is htere any chance Dr might consider Ondansetron, as that helps so many (but locks up the bowels?) or a number of things, maybe, I know nobody likes taking lots of drugs even if they are proven safe but if you are as ill as this, it's the only way. I'm so glad you like the link, that website was created by the wonderful MOH who calls in regularly, and knows a lot about meds. On the rare occasions when Icould totter out when at my worst, it was the old plastic bag to put my head into for me! I think you're vrey brave to go for it again.
Belle What a horrible series of medical 'events' no wonder you are anxious; I think there is a definite link between migraine and Hyperemesis, I suppose troublesome hormonal imbalance of some sort...really feel for you in this anxiety. Frozen bananas, that is a fascinating concept. That cooking Dr sounds just what is needed. Why aren't all GP''s like that?
Room You deserve a medal too, for battling on with kids,and getting tired makes it so much worse. Hugs.
FamilyI'm so glad you are not dehydrated.
Hopeful Ketones 5+? Aagh! You must have felt unbelievably bad...
Gatorade How are things today? How are the meds helping?
MOP Lol about OH, I wonder if the last straw was when he was in the firing line and was puked on when you were in labour?
Further back, Nemo said she was going in for ttc, I hope I didn't forget to wish her luck and remind her never to feel alone if that dreaded Hyperemesis raises it's ugly head again for her, I hope it doesn't.
SB Also gave some great advice about protein, and I'm not sure I acknowledged it.
Reebok Hugs, I do so hope you get some relief soon, this torment doesn't do a lot for relationships.
Make up Someone said people had the cheek to ask why she wasn't wearing make up. The nerve! Anyone with this is brave to be on their feet, and do people ask our OH's why they haven't got their make up on?!
Apologies to anyone rudely ignored.

hopeful92 Fri 18-Jan-13 12:30:31

Lucinda Yep, had a couple of people ask me why I've not bothered to put make up on one of them being my SIL.. How rude eh!!

Took my nephew to playgroup today, there was lots of tiny babies and I had a cuddle with a few - made me think all this sickness wil be worth it smile

Work tomorrow, not looking forward to it, I haven't been in since last Saturday, no shifts available, but not looking forward to it as I'm in 10-4, might not sound like a super long shits, but with hg 5 minutes seems like an eternity of a shift! The ovens don't help - they make me soooo overheated!

Hope everyone is having a good day smile

Reebok Fri 18-Jan-13 12:49:42

Surviving so far...not as good a day as yesterday though. Feel like I'm going back and forth. Come on hG!!! Take a damn hike!! Sorry! Just very fed up.

Hope everyone else is having a better day.

Reebok Fri 18-Jan-13 13:51:58

So annoyed with this weather and how crappy I feel...I have a craving for a tuna subway...whether I'd be able to eat it is another story but it's all I can think about after dreaming about it last night. But stupid weather and hG are not allowing me to fulfill the craving! Subway should really learn to deliver...so many pregnant women I know love it!

BelleEtLaBete Fri 18-Jan-13 15:28:59

Oh, subway! Now I need a Subway Melt smile

LucindaE - I did think about Ondansetron but since cyclazine keeps vomiting (tho not nausea) under control I feel like I should just stick with it instead of maybe trying something new. I may change my mind if the 24/7 nausea lasts past 14 weeks tho...

Reebok - Not a huge fan of Subway but had a real craving for a proper Tuna melt earlier. My mum makes amazing tuna melts - she worked in a dinner in New Jersey for a couple of months one summer when she was a student and that recipe has lasted the course. Nom. Acupuncturist advised me to avoid dairy for next few weeks tho...so no mayo or cheese on mine sad Also fed up with feeling crappy! How many weeks are you?

Went for acupuncture this morning - didn't try that in previous pgs so was curious to see if it would have much effect. It did work...a bit. Can't say I'm not feeling nauseous but I did feel a bit hungry after the treatment and I never feel hungry these days so that was something anyway. Going again on Monday cos acupuncturist reckons first couple of sessions should be close together so we shall see! First trip out of the house in a few days and first trip out alone wthout DH or my mum as a chaperone since HG kicked in.

Reebok Fri 18-Jan-13 19:10:00

Today has been a rubbish day guys. I've spent 2 hours with my head in a bowl puking and crying. I can't take anymore. Littlemiss, I'm 13+4 and losing hope that this misery will end soon. All I can stomach today is crossaint and stupid acid reflux not helping. Burns my stomach and chest and I vomit bile. Sorry tmi!

Feeling very alone. OH is fed up of my tears and complaints. I'm alone all day and luckily have no other dc to look after but it's so hard to look after myself. I have no energy this weak and feel like I want to die.
Lucinda, don't worry...I'm not dehydrated before you ask...have been checking. Just been so difficult lately. I know I'm not vomiting as much as I did at the start but I just feel awful all the time. I'm sick of waking up to face another day of misery and keep having those terrible thoughts again. And I feel so guilty because I've seen my baby.

If you are that bad, you need a change of medication. It's not unusual to be put on one type and need something different or for the GP to be rubbish and refuse. Go to A&E if you get really bad. You will get different drugs from the hospital and then the GP will have to continue with the treatment that the hospital gave you. They may not want to give you ondansetron because it is expensive but it is cheaper than keeping you in hospital. It's used all the time in America without problem. Just get some suppositories for constipation if they give it to you. Trust me on this one. Praying that you improve, Reebok.

Reebok Fri 18-Jan-13 20:09:33

Thank you Room. Unfortunately stupid hospital is just as bad. They only give cyclizine, Metaclophamide and buccustom. Have tried all 3 and doesn't work. I had to tell them about zofran but they say it's unsafe in pregnancy. No gp in my area is hG friendly. Seems like I'm destined to suffer. Wish I had support at home...

Reebok - Really feel for you sad sad i remember getting to my lowest ebb with ds and just literally curled up on bathroom floor crying. This time round it's still v tough going and the guilt of not being a good mum to ds def doesnt help but weirdly cos I was expecting to haveHG this time i am a bit calmer. Tho ask me again in 3 weeks cos im only 10+6 and i've already been in the depths of illness for 3 weeks so by the time im 13+4 i will prob be thoroughly miserable and fed up too ((hugs))

MotherofPearl Fri 18-Jan-13 20:44:45

Reebok, I'm concerned about how low you are. It doesn't sound like you're getting the support you need at all. Might it be worth requesting support from the pregnancy sickness support network (details on MOH's website: https://sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/support/uk-support-network). Depending on where you live, they have volunteers who can give you a ring or even call in to have a chat. I know Kali, who had her baby in November, also found counselling sessions really helpful to discuss all the negative feelings you've mentioned (the hospital where she was admitted organised these for her). Whatever you decide to do, be assured that your feelings are completely normal, and here on the thread, we all really do know just how horrendous HG is. Hugs.

Reebok Fri 18-Jan-13 21:41:37

Thanks Littlemiss and Mop. I know I'm not feeling right...possibly hitting depression but scared to talk to gp or midwife in case I get labelled as unfit to be a mother and have problems post birth. Will look into it Mop. Just had a good cry which resulted in more vomiting...seems stress induces the sickness. Thank you for your support ladies. Helps to have it virtually even if I can't have it in the real world. X

Could you afford a private prescription for ondansetron? I don't know how much the prescription would cost you but it costs the NHS £40 for 30 tablets (10 days at full dose but you may not need the full dose). I know it would be expensive to keep getting it but maybe worth it? Alternatively, could you bear to go and stay with a friend/relative who live near a different hospital? It's very regional the attitude to ondansetron. As I said, it's used all the time in America and considered safe there. You could come and stay with us if you want, they give out ondansetron at my hospital! (I am allergic to cyclizine and metoclopramide though so it was fairly easy for me!)

Reebok Fri 18-Jan-13 21:50:31

Couldnt afford it. My pay will be cut soon as doubt I will be returning to work for a while. DH doesn't earn enough to keep us afloat plus pay for meds. Thank you Room. That's really kind of you but I'd rather stay at home. Really appreciate the thought though.

Totally understand. Just trying to work out options for you because it's hard to think things through when you're so sick.

BelleEtLaBete Sat 19-Jan-13 00:30:48

Reebok, I'm not sure if this helps but you have the legal right to be seen at any hospital in the uk for treatment. Travelling is so hard when you feel like this but if you can get to a more sympathetic hospital you might be able to get the drugs you need. Is anyone supporting you - your dp needs to fight for you on this one. Get him to call every gp and hospital in the area until you find one which will listen?

I know it seems like a fight you might not have the energy for. Is your dp helpful/supportive? Xx

Reebok Sat 19-Jan-13 10:42:13

Traveling is difficult as we don't drive so the further away a hospital is, the harder it will be. Gp wise, Moh was kind enough to research for me... No options unfortunately. It's not even just the meds though guys...my DH is not supportive and helpful. He refuses to understand the severity of hG so I'm pretty much alone in fighting this battle. HG has taken its toll on our relationship and I'm pretty scared we won't get it back. He's not a has person. Just unsupportive right now.

Reebok Sat 19-Jan-13 10:42:53

Bad person*

LucindaE Sat 19-Jan-13 12:28:01

Reebok You poor thing, you are suffering horribly. Sending hugs and sympathy. I'm trying to think of something too, you'll end up in hospital again if you are that sick even though on meds. There must be a way round this. Try and hang on. The chances of it's continuing this bad are very low.

Reebok Sat 19-Jan-13 15:35:32

Thanks Lucinda and everyone else for trying to help. So far, today has not been awful but again I don't want to jinx it as I've had many days which start ok and end up being dreadful. Your support means everything everyone. X

BelleEtLaBete Sat 19-Jan-13 15:54:33

Hang on in there, Reebok. Are you managing any fluids at all? Xxx

To sound like my mum, god love you reebok, you're having such a terrible time. To put your DH in context i dont think any men really understand what it's like, even the most sympathetic of women dont really get it unless they've had it. Wish you could be getting some proper sympathy and support tho, def worth considering coynselling - no one will think you are unfit mother and hg sufferers are more at risk of postnatal depression so its worthbeing on their radar so you can access any support you need when baby arrives.

You're not alone, we're all here!!! Hope you've been able to keep some fluids down this afternoon and get a good long sleep tonight so you have a bit more energy tomorrow

Reebok Sat 19-Jan-13 19:09:26

Thanks Belle, Im managing to drink tepid water on sips and back to ice to keep me hydrated.

Thanks Lucinda. He seemed slightly more concerned today when he saw how little I managed to eat and reacted with 'is that it?' erm yeh! This is how I've eaten for the last couple of months and now you choose to say something?? Will talk to my midwife at my next appointment. No point in going to my gp as well he's an idiot!

Have slept most of the day away which has helped a bit. Can't seem to sleep at night with the pain in my back and legs.

I honestly don't think I would have survived it this far without terminating without all of your support so thank you. You remind me it's possible to get thought it. Here's hoping tomorrow is a better day...for all of us. X

hopeful92 Sun 20-Jan-13 09:55:40

Reebok So sorry to hear you're still suffering. How many weeks are you now? Please make sure you stay hydrated, you really don't wanna end up as dehydrated as I was when I was hospitalised, it's really not good for baby, Stay strong, just remember that it will all be worth it in the end. Just think, there are people on these threads who are on their 3rd hyperemesis pregnancy, so it must all be worth it in the end (easy to say now eh!!).

How's everyone doing today? I went to a friends birthday at their house last night, was so tired but managed to stay til 11.30 then the lads I was giving a lift to had the cheek to whinge I was leaving too early - erm if you want a lift in my car you will bloody well leave when I say so!! Cheeky gits!! Had a good mind to tell them to pay for a taxi! Took myself a bottle of fizzy vimto for a bit of sugar, managed a couple of glasses of it but it decided to make a reappearence when I got home - don't think my belly liked the bubbles so much (and I forgot to take my cyclizine with me... doh!)

hopeful92 Sun 20-Jan-13 10:09:50

Sorry I just read my post back through and realised it sounded a tad patronising, it wasn't intended that way Reebok x

LucindaE Sun 20-Jan-13 10:20:25

Reebok I am so glad you are managing sips of water and that OH actually noticed shock that you are not eating.These men! How are you today? Did you say ice lollies had become sickening, that's awful. I am just keeping my fingers crossed that it eases off massively in the next few weeks, as everyone says, it will be worth it, I've never come across anyone on these threads who didn't say that. I agree with others about counselling, they offered it to Kali and nobody said anything about being an 'unfit mother' (aren't we all?)
Hopeful You managed to go OUT and drive and give lazy people lifts?! How did you do it?
Waves to lovely MOP Room Littlemiss and everyone and hope everyone's coping.

Reebok Sun 20-Jan-13 11:37:31

Thanks Hopeful. Don't worry your post wasn't patronizing. smile I don't know how you managed a party but well done. Must have been nice to actually get out and do something.

Thank you Lucinda. Still not feeling great so I think it will be another day in bed again....better in my own bed than in hospital though I suppose. Thank God for my iPhone or I'd be completely bored out of my mind. Ive gone off ice lollies. Tried one yesterday in the hope that I may like it again but in vain. Ended up sipping on guava juice which is quite nice so fr as less acidic than most juices and my body seems to want juice right now. Never mind...am surviving. 14 weeks tomorrow...pls God make this wretched illness go away for all of us.

Room, Littlemiss and belle, I hope you're better today?

Hopeful - Well done on making it out to the party!! I made it round to visit a friend yesterday who just had newborn twins a couple of weeks ago - getting cuddles with babies made me remember why I'm going through this...again! Hoping to make it to my mum and dad's this afternoon but feeling a bit wretched today confused

Reebok - Hope you are doing a bit better today?

Hope everyone is doing ok!

Reebok Sun 20-Jan-13 13:18:22

Feel rubbish Littlemiss...vomited bile again and the acid burns my stomach and throat. Know I need to eat something but can't find anything remotely appealing other than starburst.

Starburst! For a while i was into coloured licorice but last week or two i've been all about the sour haribo, so I can def understand that. Im sure the bile is awful sad do fizzy drinks help at all? Really cold sparkling water or fizzy orange weirdly helps me if i sip it. My nausea isnt so bad today but energy levels are bottoming out, been in bed all day. Cant wait til booking scan next fri so i can see the baby and remind myself why i'm going through all of this!!!

Reebok Sun 20-Jan-13 14:47:59

How far along are you? I've started liking coke again. Went off it for a whole but problem is leaves me feeling dehydrated because I get so addicted to the sugar and drink less water. Can't drink orangey fizz or sparkling water...comes straight back up. Very little choice about what to eat/drink at the moment.

Yeh must admit scan did help for a bit but now I'm back to forgetting and feeling like I have a 24/7 stomach flu that won't go away.

hopeful92 Sun 20-Jan-13 15:02:02

Earlier on all I could eat was wine gums and fruit pastilles - not exactly nutrition central! Now I am managing to stomach bits of actual "real" food like toast and pasta, but it's about bloody time as I'm nearly 22 weeks now...

Still feeling like absolute crap, and really don't know how I managed the party. It was ok though as I just sorta chilled in the corner talking to one of my friends whose wife is also pregnant, due a week ahead of me. Feel like rubbish today though, it absolutely wiped me out - think I look like I'm the one with the hangover rather and OH - hardly seems fair that he gets drunk yet I'm the one puking the next day... Oh the joys of hg sad

Reebok Sun 20-Jan-13 16:37:49

That sucks about feeling it today Hopeful but glad you can stomach more food now.

I've been drinking a can of Pepsi all day and living off starburst which is so far helping with the nausea THANK GOD! Hopefully I will feel ok all day!! Don't want to jinx it though... How many cans of Pepsi/coke can you have a day?

hopeful92 Sun 20-Jan-13 16:52:54

Reebok - Well they say really you should only have 2 cups of coffee a day in caffeine terms, which I reckon is probably qual to 2 cans of coke. However, I was drinking a lot more lucozade than the RDA of caffeine said I should, purely because it was the only thing I could keep down at about 18 weeks! Are you past the 12 week mark? I think it's probably more important in the first initial development stages, as the baby gets everything direct from you? (Don't hold me to that as I'm no medical expert!) But if it is all that you are managing, I wouldn't worry too much! It's not like you're gonna be doing it for the whole pregnancy smile

Reebok Sun 20-Jan-13 16:59:24

Thanks you for the info...will carry on googling to be sure. My doctor just smiled when I said I was drinking that at the beginning and said if it helps you feel better, to drink it. I'm 14 weeks tomorrow. Hmm two seem manageable...just don't want to dehydrate myself as I end up sipping less water...must be all the sugar which is helping. I feel like an addict...keep looking at the can but know I can't drink in gulps. Funnily, I hated coke/Pepsi before pregnancy and only liked orange juice or lucozade (which I can't drink now).

LucindaE Mon 21-Jan-13 11:09:51

Reebok Will that dr not even prescribe the ranatadine that MOP found so helfpul? That acid and puking bile is so awful; Gaviscon is sickening and re-appears as a strange foam shock. Slowly, the time is approaching when you will start to improve. it did happen even to Kali who had one of the worst cases on this thread, I think. It didn't entirely go away but it did improve a lot.
Littlemiss Those cuddles with babies - how sweet, that's a lovely reminder.
Hopeful I am sure I habitually drank so much coke or Lucozade when I could that I went over that limit constantly, but what is one to do? You have to get liquids down somehow and you need the sugar energy boost.
Room Belle and everyone, how have things been?

Reebok Mon 21-Jan-13 11:21:30

He's already put me on ranatadine but doesn't do much. The coke helped yesterday I must admit but as I've said I don't want to dehydrate myself as I end up only drinking that. Wanted doc to put me on the next med but he won't. Really hope so. Today I just threw up a little water when I woke up but it's because I drank it on an empty stomach. Really hope you're right Lucinda and it improves. I need to go back to work soon...my pay will go down soon and we can't afford it. So praying for better health ASAP.

Hope everyone else is feeling better. X

Reebok - I wonder would coke zero be less dehydrating?

hopeful - my friend is an obstetrician and she just had her first baby a few weeks ago. She had to do night shifts until 32 weeks and she was still delivering babies by c section and with forceps with her huge bump right up to 36 weeks. She suffered badly with sickness too and she just slugged away at the caffeinated fizzy drinks and coffee to keep her going - so I guess even drs don't follow their own advice!!

I had another acupuncture session this morning. Both times I've been I've felt a bit hungry afterwards so on the way home I had to stop and get petrol and I picked up a sandwich from the fridge cabinet. It was chicken and mayo so nothing particularly crazy but for some reason it just really appealed to me. Came home and started eating it. Got half way through and then threw it all back up. Back to square one - bed rest and more Greys Anatomy. Ho hum!

Reebok Mon 21-Jan-13 13:07:54

Eurgh to coke zero! Tastes awful! I need the sugar to stay slightly energetic. Now that you've mentioned your friend though, I feel slightly less guilty drinking it...especially as she is a medical professional. Littlemiss you poor thing! I hate if when that happens. Rest up and hope you feel better soon.

Reebok Mon 21-Jan-13 13:29:55

Thought I'd bring a bit of laughter to the group....I have terrible phlegm so was coughing it up and almost wet myself! Had to force myself to hold it in long enough to get to the loo! Put a smile on my face and brought a bit of laughter to my day though even if it was for a short time. smile

LucindaE Mon 21-Jan-13 14:32:45

Reebok Lol, I wet myself repeatedly! It was my speciality! grin.
LittlemissHow foul about chicken and mayo sandwich. I do hope the acupunture is helping a bit? It's so expensive.
Apologies to Anyone' I've rudely ignored.

Reebok Mon 21-Jan-13 14:50:40

Lol I've been told to expect it often Lucinda. My bladder is extremely weak already! If I had energy, would do those pelvic exercises. Luckily I'm at home if an accident had occurred! Ah the joys of pregnancy!

Lucinda - Yes, it is pricey! I was still a student when I was pg with DS (well a postgrad one but still broke) so I think that's why I didn't try it then. I think it is helping a bit but the chicken sandwich incident may undermine that theory!!

Reebok - My pelvic floor isn't in the greatest condition since DS was born. Most of the time it doesn't really cause me any bother but if I have a full bladder and I start wretching hard I really do pee myself a little bit. It is incredibly disgusting and one of the many reasons I am not in work at the minute!! HG is just so....undignified!

Hope everyone is having a good (or at least ok!) day smile

hopeful92 Mon 21-Jan-13 15:25:25

Anyone know how to get rid of this foul, bitter, sour taste in my mouth? Feel like ive got constant morning breath!! Been trying to get rid of it for like 17 weeks!

Reebok Mon 21-Jan-13 15:35:53

Littlemiss, it's very undignified!

Hopeful, unfortunately I think it's another horrid side effect we have to face....I eat starburst to help take away the taste for a few minutes but other than that, I think the only way to get rid of it is labour.

LucindaE Mon 21-Jan-13 17:30:52

Reebok It's embarrsing for sure! At least urine's sterile, I believe...There was a craze among film stars for washing their faces in their own urine, would you believe, back in the nineties!
Hopeful I had in a supply of those old fashioned barley sugar sweets a funny little sweetshop sold and they helped, but on a bad day sucking sweets can be sickening too. You'll laugh, but I chewed fresh mint too.
I do so hope the Acupunture does turn things about for you, Littlemiss. Everyone who's tried it seems to find it helps a bit,but really dramatic improvals don't seem to be as common as I'd hoped.

Reebok Mon 21-Jan-13 19:58:42

Eurgh on their face! That's gross!

Am quite proud of myself...managed a small plain baked potato today...has stayed down so far. Feeling quite dizzy though but think may be because I had 2 cokes and very little water. Having that 'come down' after initial buzz of energy. Not an awful day today so praying this may be the start of better health!

BelleEtLaBete Tue 22-Jan-13 07:10:22

Hey ladies.

Just popping in with a quick hello. Had a better day on Sun but yesterday at work was pretty bad and I feel shocking this morning. I'm getting observed today (I'm a teacher) and have managed to sneakily find out what time - 9;45 sad I was still leaving the room to be sick at 11 yesterday. I hope I don't get graded down if I have to scuttle off. The mornings definitely seem worse and the stemetil is helping but seems to take a while to take effect sad

The taste in your mouth can be caused by mild ketosis - people who do the Atkins diet can get this. Grim, isn't it.

Hope you're all doing ok. Wish me luck for not vomiting on my observer!

Lucinda - Strangely I seem worse since acupuncture yesterday!! Lots of throwing up yesterday and this morning, totally wiped out. Have to phone GP to get line extended, I might ask him whether it's worth me still sticking with cyclazine or if it's time to try something else... Fed up!!

hopeful - I like cinnamon things (like Big Red) or mint tea to try and get rid of the taste in my mouth but it's basically permanent

Belle - Good luck with your inspection. If anything you should get marked up for soldiering through work while you're feeling so terrible smile

Nexus6 Tue 22-Jan-13 09:35:38

Thanks for the support smile Gums are all back to normal, I avoided antibiotics and just used alcohol free corsidol three times a day and kept my teeth as clean as possible.

I'm not against antibiotics in terms of baby's health- I think they would be fine but with HM your stomach is just so damn sensitive that a course of antibiotics is like setting off a nuke in your belly.

LucindaE Tue 22-Jan-13 10:40:14

Belle You are still at work, teaching?! You deserve a medal! Do they know yu have Hyperemesis, because the idea of your being marked down is outrageous and srely sexual descrimination, men not being put in this position...Best of luck on assessment, I don't know how you've avoided being sick in the classroom to be honest. Everyone else must be a tidier puker than me. I did work with another woman who had very nasty MS borderline Hyperemesis who was sick on her keyboard, putting it out of action...serves the boss right for being unsympathetic.
Reebok Yes, these beauty fads! Maybe the urine increased the beauty of my bathroom floor grin. Congratulations on that potato, a lot of women always find as per MOH's website that potato based foods are the ones that seem to stay down, I don't know why...I'll keep my fingers crossed, you deserve a break, my goodness.
Littlemiss Oh no! Poor you, this is too bad, hugs on offer! Can you phone the Acupunturist to enquire? I suppose it's possible the homeopathic thing sometimes applies - that the symptoms are exacerbated before improving - but that hasn't applied to others at all, so it seems worth asking. I think it's definitely a good idea to get a change of meds - after all, there are a number to choose from and cyclezine's only the first they ususally try (you can even get it over the counter).
Nexus I am so relieved that that awful infection as gone, for sure antibiotics would be the last straw for the stomach...
Thinking of Everyone

Reebok Tue 22-Jan-13 11:00:31

Belle, I don't know how you are managing to work! You do deserve a medal! I'm a teacher too but have been signed off since 6 weeks. Those observations are nerve wracking enough without being sick. I hope it went well.

Littlemiss, sorry you're feeling so bad.

Not having a great morning. Dizziness not gone and once again threw up bile so my throat and chest are currently on fire. I hate acid reflux! Praying the little brekkie I managed stays down.

Reebok - Yes, carby, potato based stuff and oatcakes are always good for me. I might go crazy and try a baked potato this afternoon!

Lucinda - Wow...on her keyboard!! It will be hell for me when I do go back into work because it's a hell of a run from my desk to the toilets, past a whole lot of people!!

GP phoned back - he's a very nice, older guy, in his sixties and very old school. He's very wary of giving out meds in general during pg, which I do understand because obviously I would much rather not be taking them either and I'd rather have a GP that was cautious about that than reckless. Anyway tho, he's upgrading me from cyclizine to Prochlorperazine. Anyone else tried this one? I just stuck with cyclazine when I was pg with DS and it was 3 years ago so my memory might be a bit foggy but I do think it worked better for me then, this time round I just seem to be stuck in the house and worse...mostly flippin stuck in bed!!

nemo08 Tue 22-Jan-13 15:07:19

Sorry haven't posted lately. I regularly check on you all and am astounded by your courage and perseverance under such horrible conditions. HG really is a nasty piece of work sad

I had everything planned for TTC-ing this month (including a prescription for ondansetron and metoclopramide given my Mr Shehata to use as soon as i have bfp). However I had a tummy bug at the weekend and the less than 24 hours of throwing up and feleing crap brought HG memories back to me. And now I'm in a mental mess, thinking i can't put myself through this again sad I'm just not sure I'm mentally strong enough.
I suffer from anxiety and depression and am on antidepressants but everything is well controlled. I just worry that the emotional pressure HG puts on you will be too much for me. I'm just too weak

So reconsidering (again) staying at 1 healthy and happy child (3.5 yrs old now). Not what I wanted ......

Everyone around me is syaing "go for it, the durgs wil help"....but they haven't experience HG and how horrible it is not only physically but emotionally and mentally as well....and that's what worrying me the most.

sorry for waffling, this is the oly place where I know people understand how horrible HG is and why it would make someone think twice before getting pg again sad

nemo - I feel your pain! This is my third pg and I had awful HG with DS, then I had bad nausea in second pg that was a lot easier to cope with but that sadly ended in mmc. I had somehow still managed to convince myself that if I got pg again the sickness would be more like the second time than the first. Unfortunately it's not, I'm right back in HG hell again and it's hard because it's all so familiar. All I can say is that I'm 11+2 now and even though the sickness is really bad, I do find that I am managing it better - having done it all before, yes, I am pretty much bed ridden but I don't need to be hospitalised this time because I'm using the meds, making sure to get enough fluid, I know what to expect a lot better so I don't push myself, I stay off my feet and I'm just waiting it out. It's hard going, particularly with not being able to look after DS at the minute, but I do feel like it will all be worth it in the end. And then I'm making DH get the snip!!! There's no guarantee you def would have HG again but in the end only you can make the choice and I completely agree, having family and friends who haven't been through HG telling you it will all be fine is well meaning but not helpful. Good luck with whatever you choose to do x

Reebok Tue 22-Jan-13 15:59:56

Little miss, it's the first time I've managed to hold down a potato product. Yay! Really tempted to try it with cheese today but think I should stick to plain to be safe.

Nemo, I can completely understand what you mean about the fear of trying again...I don't have any DC yet but this is my second pregnancy...lost first to mmc. I didn't think I would be able to try again after the mc as I had such bad HG and felt like dying. I managed it however, now I keep thinking there is no way I can go through it again...I don't know. I may change my mind in MANY years time. But for now I'm set on this one which upsets me as I've always wanted two. My sis who has not experienced HG annoys me as she says 'you don't know you will get hg a third time.' She has no idea how difficult HG makes your life...hard enough looking after just myself let alone another child! So I completely get what you mean. Whatever you do decide to do though....remember this group is here for you and will give you the support you need. X

cupcake78 Tue 22-Jan-13 16:04:17

It's back! I'm 18 weeks and I've had the honor of 10 days free and this morning I had to run to the toilet and off I go!

I'm so disappointed, I'm back to feeling knackered, feeling sick, being sick and generally rubbishsad.

When will it end

cupcake78 Tue 22-Jan-13 16:11:40

Nemo I also am on anti depressants for anxiety and depression. This is my 4th pregnancy. I have 1 dc. All pregnancies have been horrendous with sickness and yes I find it emotionally difficult to deal with, not impossible but its hard.

I waited till ds was 5 and started school before considering another child. I'm not sure if its easier as I'm having to get up and do the school run and collect as well as try and work and entertain ds.

Basically HG it's not a deal breaker but its bloody hard physically and mentally to keep going. Only you can make the decision but I know for me this is it, I'm not doing it again, I've had enough!

Good luck

hopeful92 Tue 22-Jan-13 16:18:58

Nemo - Ultimately, only you can make the decision of whether or not you can face putting your mind and body through HG again. It is physically and mentally draining, but all for a good cause. This is my first pregnancy, and even though I am suffering so badly, it hasn't put me off going through it again but I have always wanted more than one child (everyone says I'm mad thinking about more already after being so ill and being hospitilized and everything and still being sick every day!)

If you do decide to TTC again, just know that we are all here to support you every sickly step of the way smile

I wanted 4 DCs...4!! I was so into all the natural birth, hypnosis stuff and everything beforehand and then three HG pgs later and all I want is to struggle through this one and then that is def me finished for good!!

No idea whether it's harder or easier to go through HG with an older or younger DC - I can't look after my DS at all at the minute so that's awful but it's easier on him in some ways because as long as I see him in the mornings, sit with him while he's having his bath and read him stories in the evening he's not all that aware that there's something wrong with me and is happy going out to childminder or round to MILs.

Ehhhh basically the verdict from all of us seems to be that HG is just flippin tough!!!

Reebok Wed 23-Jan-13 12:31:57

Wow some people so small minded it does my head in! I said to someone I couldn't wait to have my baby in my arms and get away from pregnancy. She said no cos labour and newborn worse than being preg. I pointed out not if you suffer from HG and that many HG sufferers have said the labor and newborn bit was a piece of cake in comparison to HG. She couldn't understand that as she has never had HG and said it was rubbish. Erm...she hasn't experienced having her head in a bowl 20 times a day! She really annoys me as is preg too and having a pretty easy pregnancy in comparison to me. Always tries to make out HG is nothing and is one of those annoying 'ginger biscuit' people! Arghh!

Reebok - hmm angry hmm I had a pretty horrific labour with DS but I can tell you, hand on heart, that 53 hours of labour was TOTALLY WORTH IT not to be pg any more. I remember one of the first things i noticed was I had got DH a new aftershave for xmas and my HG started the first week of January so I'd spent 8 months basically wretching at the smell of something I had picked in December because I liked the smell of it. If I caught the slightest whiff of it I thought I would puke and then the morning after DS was born and DH turned up at hospital ready to take us home freshly showered and shaved and I smelt THAT aftershave and for the first time in 8 months...I liked the smell of it again!! A magical post-HG moment grin You'll have one of those ahead this summer too!

LucindaE Wed 23-Jan-13 13:47:44

Nemo I do so feel for you, I didn't go for it a second time (one mmc normal sickness, one successful pregnancy with run in with Hyperemesis) but I do regret that now. As others say, only you can decide, it must be so tough struggling to look after a LO, so much depends on how good your support network is. If you do decide, this thread is hopefully always here but it is difficult if relatives don't fully understand your fear.
Belle You brave thing - how did assessment go, dare I ask?
Cupcake So sorry about relapse, i hope it is just temporary. How are you today? Two mc's, hugs, I found one upsetting enough.
LittleMiss Prochloporzine - I need MOH to tell me if that's got other brand names. Sorry it's still so bad despite meds. DS sounds lovely and easy, my DD was demanding and sleepless!
Reebok Really sorry about nothing helping with the awful acid puking.
(Goes off clucking).

cupcake78 Wed 23-Jan-13 14:40:17

Reebok your so right lol. I can't wait for childbirth at the moment because its a guaranteed end to the persistent puking and nausea! People think I'm being weak and I'm getting looks and comments such as 'how can you still be sick, you sure you haven't just got a bug!' Its one hell of a persistent bug if that's all it is. I'd give 2 days of bedridden sickness over this any day!

Lucinda- I'm ok today thanks, still get my dark days but its just something I have to live with until it passes which one day it will. I will feel alot better once I'm past 24 wks until then I'm trying not to get too excited just incase. It does make HG very hard to cope with as for me there is always that chance that my body will get rid of baby before it can survive. My mc were caused by my waters breaking to early so this is always at the back of my mind.

Reebok Wed 23-Jan-13 16:30:36

Thanks Lucinda...okish day today. No acid...so far! And still relying on coke to get me through.
Exactly cupcake! I know labour will be hard but at least I won't have hG anymore and il take sleepless nights from a newborn over pregnanch insomnia...at least it won't be in my body!

Is anyone else feeling isolated by friends? Since I got hG, they've pretty much distanced themselves from me. At first they offered to see me...in the first week or so but I wasn't nearly well enough to have someone on my house. But since then, nothing. Feel alone and unsupported enough a it is but this just makes me feel even worse.

Reebok Wed 23-Jan-13 16:31:19

And cupcake, very sorry to hear about your miscarriages. I've had one mmc and know how traumatic it can be. Hugs x

LucindaE Thu 24-Jan-13 11:18:45

Reebok I hope that lack of acid is continuing? It makes your life a misery. The isolation is very difficult, and as for that complacent woman you mentioned, steam bursts out of my ears angry. She should take a look at MOH's website...I can't recommend this thread as she'd see herself mentioned grin. It's the lack of empathy that is so infuriating, the implication that one is wimp...Twenty times a day must have been truly horrendous.
Littlemiss Fifty-three hours, aagh! Poor you, my goodness shock.
Cupcake I really admire you for being so brave - that anxiety must make things so much worse, did they have any explanation as to why the waters went early or don't they know?

Reebok Thu 24-Jan-13 11:58:23

Lucinda, no acid throw up again this morning! Yesterday i was fine throughout day until around 4ish when heartburn hit and made me nauseous. Think i have to lay off the coke. Here's hoping I'm getting better! I had an awful nights sleep though...suffering from insomnia. Slept at 11pm after laying in bed from 8 and woke again from 2 until 7. I'm so fed up! Been sleeping like this for past week or so. I'm so tired but can't sleep...can't even catch up on sleep during day. Don't know what to do.

As for that woman, there's no point. Some people are just small minded.

Hope everyone else has a good day!

Reebok - Friends is a tough one. A lot of good friends offered to come up and see me but the first few weeks of this I was genuinely so wretched and miserable I really didn't want to see anyone so I just put them off. They know I did this when I was pg with DS and emerged after 14 weeks, if not shiny and sparkly and completely healthy, at least able to chat and have a coffee. So most have gone pretty quiet and you do feel a bit neglected, even though I know it was me that put them off in the first place! I do have a few friends tho who text every few days or once a week to see how I am and things like that, but on the whole HG is a pretty lonely experience at times.

cupcake - So sorry to hear about your losses. I have a fear like that in the back of my mind since my mmc last summer, because I felt sick right up until after I'd had erpc done and my body started to go back to normal hormone levels again, so even though I am suffering badly with HG at the min I know it's no guarantee that the baby is ok. Have my 12 week scan tomorrow tho so fx

New meds are improving things a bit, started them 24 hours ago and haven't thrown up during that time. Still obviously feeling pretty tired and queasy but i am going to tentatively say they're working better than cyclizine anyway...

Reebok Thu 24-Jan-13 15:19:53

Think I over did it. Went for a walk to get some much needed fresh air and thought I'd grab lunch outside...first time since I got HG. Am feeling so sick from eating out...was just a sandwich but wasn't very nice and now I think I need to resort to coke to avoid feeling so sick.

BelleEtLaBete Thu 24-Jan-13 17:46:00

Prochlorperazine is what I'm on. I'm getting on ok with it - better than metacloperamide. It's the generic name for stemetil - mine are buccastem, they melt in your mouth so you can't throw them up. Which I think really helps. I am still retching but I find nothing comes up, or only a bit of bitter yellow stuff. Which means I'm keeping my food and liquid down. And I seem to be mad for primula cheese spread (ham) with thick cut ham and white bread. I can't get enough and it seems to help the sickness.

Inspection went well. I got a 2 - which I am really pleased with. And I managed not to throw up during it - although I did vom straight after. sad

Hope you're all doing ok today xx

BelleEtLaBete Thu 24-Jan-13 17:47:48

Ps - the prochlorperazine is making me drowsy, however. I'm spacing my doses and taking one 4 times a day rather than 2 twice. It's much better according to my gp, but she did say it varies.

Oh belle, that sounds like a tough inspection! Congrats on doing so well - I am so impressed that you're soldiering into work dosed up on anti nausea stuff. I don't know if I'm on a diff dosage of the drug to you since I'm taking it in tablet form rather than dissolve in the mouth but I'm supposed to take one tablet three times a day so I take one at 7am, 1pm and then around 7pm. It knocked me out for 2 hours this afternoon and I had real trouble waking up from that nap so I imagine it is also making me v drowsy. I can live with that as long as I stop throwing up so much - might even make it into work for an afternoon or two next week as long as this keeps up. Today I've had soup, bread, some fruit and cereal and it has all, so far, stayed down so keeping fx!!

BelleEtLaBete Fri 25-Jan-13 01:57:23

Thanks - it was tough. I managed to work to nine weeks last time, at which point I passed out mid lesson, head first into a dustbin (which I had just been sick into). My poor students had to pull me out, covered in my own vom, and go get first aid sad Not one of the most dignified moments of my life, I must say!! I can laugh about it now (dryly) but I was pretty bad last time. I wasn't even on meds at that point.

This time, the meds must be helping as I'm 8 weeks today and getting through the days - just about. I'm eating all day, especially the primula and ham rolls, and all my colleagues know and are being hugely supportive. I haven't told the students yet. I've also discovered my office chair reclines right back so I am basically having a 'lie down' whenever I can - between classes and so on. It really helps, and my manager appreciates that I'm there at all, as I work in FE so getting cover is a nightmare, so I am on light duties and basically getting left alone. I took a couple of days off last week (during an official OFSTED inspection - eek!) when the metaclopramide stopped working and while I waited for the buccastem to kick in. But that's all so far.

The Stemetil is definitely making me drowsy but its not unmanageable at the moment. Apparently it's also used (in bigger doses) as an antipsychotic so maybe it's calming? It's not a bad thing either - it's forcing me to slow down a little. Although ironically I'm not sleeping well at night so who knows!

8 weeks down. 32 to go... Fuck it sounds like aaaages when I put it like that!

Belle - I only got really bad at 8 weeks hmm Last 4 weeks have been really bad (11+6 now), but with DS it really did improve a bit at 14 weeks so hopefully only another fortnight to go. Yeah I saw that about Stetemil being an anti-psychotic, I was wondering if it might improve my mood lol Like you I'm not sleeping great at night either, takes a long time to drop off, have strange dreams, wake up a few times during the night. It's annoying!!

Scan this morning. Eep!

MotherofPearl Fri 25-Jan-13 10:26:52

Reebok, that woman who said that childbirth and having a newborn are harder than HG is deluded. When I was pregnant and joined the thread, I vividly remember one member of the thread, lovely Ovaltine (or theonly as she was then). She had a truly terrible labour and birth, massive hemorrhage, several blood transfusions etc. She astounded the consultant and the whole medical team at the birth by announcing at the end of it all that she felt BRILLIANT and could she please be brought something to eat! They were staggered, but then they didn't realise that it was the first time in 9 months that she'd not felt nauseous! smile After the birth she stayed on the thread for some months, and I was amazed at how elated and cheerful she seemed compared to before the birth when she was still suffering. This will be you in the summer, as Littlemiss says.

Good luck with the scan LittleMiss, and hope everyone else holding up OK. Hugs to Lucinda and everyone.

Reebok Fri 25-Jan-13 10:40:00

Belle, you are seriously a trooper.

Little miss, good luck with the scan!

Mop thanks for the encouragement. I hope so. Currently at doc surgery as I think I may unfortunately have a Uti sad
The reception staff were nicer to me today. Were shocked at how I had not gained any weight and said I didn't look pregnant...erm yea, neither would you if you had HG. Overall were much nicer though.

LucindaE Fri 25-Jan-13 11:54:43

Reebok Was it you who was due for a scan today, I'm a bit muddled here, I think...I'm glad reception noticed that you are very ill and therefore not gaining weight normally - quick on the uptake! Congrats on walk, and actually eating n a cafe yesterday...Hope the lack of acid pukes continues...
Belle I'm delighted about t he assessment going so well, down to being able to be sick at the right time, but really, cluck cluck, I still think even if people are being supportive you shouldn't be in work at all. shock Goodness, about last time's Puking and Fainting in wastepaper bin - how dramatic; I'm glad the students rose to the occasion! You must have been feeling dreadful, not even on meds. It must have started and got nasty very early with you, then if you're only at eight weeks now?
Littlemiss Hey, that food intake sounds good! It's so difficult about lonliness, because you don't want to talk much anyway - it means opening the throat, which is hazardous...I'll keep my fingers crossed for those fourteen weeks for you this time, too.
Hopeful Cupcakes MOP and Everyone Hugs.

Reebok Fri 25-Jan-13 13:13:54

No littlemiss is due a scan today. I had doc app...turns out I do have a uti! Just what I need right now.

My boss is being a right b****! Got to go back next week...luckily am feeling ok to go and hopefully as I hit 15 weeks on mon, maybe il be completely better. Evenings seem to be hardest but the sickness seems managable this week.

LucindaE Fri 25-Jan-13 15:06:56

*Reehook^ Sorry for getting scan details wrong and UTI is horrible, I suppose it goes with being ill and not able to drink as much liquid as you'd like even if you aren't dehydrated. I don't think you should be forced back to work after weeks in bed - you will be weaker than you know even if the sickness is hopefully easing off a little, and if you overdo it it by rushing back to work as others have on here, you can have a relapse. Sorry to sound like a pessemist, mother hen thinks the Dr will surely give you a sick note for a bit longer, u ntil you turn the corner?
Littlemiss How did the scan go?

Reebok Fri 25-Jan-13 15:44:20

The boss isn't making it easy for me Lucinda. My pay will go down massively next week of I don't return next week and there's no way we can survive on it. Will just have to battle on. If Ghoule and Belle can do it, so can I. Granted I will be running around after 4 year olds but not much else I can do.

LucindaE Fri 25-Jan-13 19:06:47

Reebok Oh dear, then you and Belle and Ghoule and Hopeful and others all deserve a medal! Keeping my fingers crossed that the improvement continues...
Any news?

Hello All. Sorry I've not been around. I've been trying very hard to juggle some more family stuff and come off of the ondansetron and switch to stemetil as per the GP's request. I am so fed. I tried telling myself this morning that I did not feel sick, it was all psychological and I just needed to eat some breakfast as I'm now 16 weeks and 'should ' be feeling better. Sadly my body didn't listen and once I started throwing up, that was it. I can confirm that I definitely do still have hyperemesis and the ondansetron is doing a fabulous job (unlike the stemetil that I throw up).

Reebok, I wish I had the finances to pay you to stay at home sad it is so wrong that you have to work. I am very angry on your behalf.

Reebok - Rubbish you have to go back into work sad I'm thinking of going in just for an afternoon or two next week but waiting to see how I feel Monday morning. We can get through it!!

Room - Sorry Stetemil isn't helping much - hope you feel better soon

Only through up once today and ate a proper lunch for the first time in weeks and weeks! Woo hoo! Feel bloody exhausted still but keeping food down is amazing. Also a good scan for me today! Photos a bit rubbish because out little beanie is very active and was spinning and wriggling and kicking all over the place. Poor MW tried for ages to find a better angle or encourage baby into better position but we saw loads on the screen. Looks very like his/her brother, all long legs and very active. No wonder I was convinced I felt kicking the other night! Got a referral to physio because I had bad spd the last time so they are trying to resolve that before it becomes an issue and my next appt is in 4 weeks, tho I'll get my blood results in a day or two. Have decided not to have quadruple test too. I also have a new EDD of 9th August!

Reebok Fri 25-Jan-13 21:23:34

Thank you Room and Littlemiss. Am dreading going back. Feel like I've forgotten how to do everything! Plus scared of being sick but I have a wonderful TA who is willing to take charge while I find my feet/be sick.

Room I was thinking about you today. Sorry the new meds are not working. Pray that you find some relief soon.

Littlemiss, that's great news about the scan. It's a weight off the shoulders once you see that heartbeat right! smile

DH is away. I have all three children to look after and I need to go back to bed. No idea how I'm going to cope today. And the rubbish thing about Saturdays is that everyone says thry would like to help but they have plans already. I would love to be able to go shopping or out for lunch etc etc. I know it's totally wrong to expect help and for other people to give up their plans but today I just feel so terrible and can't help but get grumpy about it.

LucindaE Sat 26-Jan-13 11:07:07

Room You poor thing, that's so awful. I can only send hugs. I do think people close by might put themselves out for a few hours. With three there's no chance of lying on the sofa. Though I stopped at the one, I remember how when OH was at work and my daughter was a toddler how awful it was staggering about with a migraine, carrying a bowl about with me. When is OH due back?
Reebok Is there absolutely no way you can manage another couple of weeks off? I expect it's maddening to have me say this, and I do hope your so much better it's possible. It's just I'm concerned because several women on this thread have gone back too early, collapsed at work, and had to go off sick again. You know best, though.
Littlemiss How lovely about that scan! It makes such a difference.

BelleEtLaBete Sat 26-Jan-13 19:44:38

Reebok - your doc can sign a sick note requiring reduced hours or light duties as a phased return to work. He can write you a letter stating you are to only work afternoons or a couple of hours a day. My doc did this for me last time and by agreement with my school I went in at lunch, taught one lesson, then went home. I did this three days the first week, every day the second, then half days for a week, then ft. My work didn't dock my pay and were just pleased to be getting me back. Could you ask your HR or occupational health dept about this?

BelleEtLaBete Sat 26-Jan-13 19:50:20

Ps - you are all very nice about me being a 'trooper'. I don't feel like one - my HG is definitely there under the meds but Pre-emptive medication seems to have it under control. Fri I forgot to take my buccastem to work and I was being violently ill by 3pm and had to cancel a class and go home. Ew. So it has proved to me it's there but at the moment well controlled.

My first indication I was pg was fainting and vomiting this time. I got my bfp on a hunch when I fainted in tesco and was sick at 11dpo sad I got on meds a week later (so 4 wks pg) and I was being sick 8-10 times a day at that point. Boo to HG.

Room - You have all my sympathy, I haven't been able to cope with DH by myself at all and there's just one of him (*lucinda*, i feel your pain!), don't know what I would do without mum or mil. It is tough though when friends are offering to help because you don't like to impose on their weekends and it's not quite the same as your mum coming round and bringing you soup and taking the kids away while you lie in an uncommunicative slump on the sofa! Hope you managed to get through today ok

Reebok - Argh it's awful work are putting you under pressure. My job is usually very much office-based with a wee bit of teaching so I'm not dreading going so much as I'm kind of dreading the drive there and back cos I do feel very queasy in the car but driving is really the only realistic transport option. If you can get reduced hours or reduced duties or something from GP to make your return more manageable that would hopefully help?

Belle - Boo to HG is right!! I would definitely be throwing up 7 or 8 times a day without the meds, at the minute it's down to once or twice a day which isn't so bad and it's only if I have let my stomach get completely empty so it's got very acidy in there or if i'm running late taking my tablet. It's really the exhaustion that goes along with it that's a real killer for me now...

Made it out for the morning with DH and DS this morning, first time we've all done something nice together since just before xmas since the sickness kicked in really. Had to spend afternoon in bed afterwards cos I was wrecked but worth it to get out and about smile

Reebok Sun 27-Jan-13 09:08:30

Unfortunately I have to go back guys. Not much I can do. My boss isn't very helpful but will see about whether she will allow reduced hours. Have contacted my union too for support. So far I feel ok in mornings now. By 2pm I'm ferl sick but not as bad as before and think its mainly because I'm tired. I slept from 8pm last night as I had a migraine. And while I didn't sleep through the night, feel a bit better for it right now. Fingers crossed for more health improvements as we go along the day for us all!

DH got back during the night and is now on his placement for his course this morning. I'm praying that 2pm comes quickly and DH is good at taking over because I just want to curl up now. The children are all getting cabin fever so I'm tempted to take them to church where they can go to children's groups while I let the sermon wash over me. I really don't feel up to it but another day here with the kids by myself seems so much worse.

LucindaE Sun 27-Jan-13 10:05:16

Room I hope your OH took over brilliantly, you poor thing; three kids and hyperemesis don't go too well to put it mildly.
Belle What a brilliant scheme, why didn't I think of the fact that others on here have had phased returns? I do hope Reebok's union can organise that for her.
Littlemiss Thanks for sympathy with that now distant nightmare. I do think home made soup is wonderful when one is convalescent from this and can face healthy food in small amounts, as distinct from a diet of crisps, coke and ice lollies...
Hugs to all. Apologies to anyone I've rudely overlooked. Hopeful How are you?

Will everyone look out for Lotta1234? I've directed her over here for chat about HG meds. She has posted in pregnancy.

Right, I need to have a moan. Sorry!

This weekend has been ridiculously hard. Having tried to come off the ondansetron as per GP's budget request and failed miserably (I had forgotten how evil HG is because ondansetron is so good!) I really needed help this weekend with the kids. DH has come back and seems to think that because I survived, I must be capable of doing more. I know life is hard for him at the mo with his course, 3 DC and wife with HG but it's not easy for me either! I do not feel able to 'get back to normal' yet but he is asking me to do school drop off two days this week with the expectation hope that I'll be back to 'normal' the week after and totally able to get on with all the school runs. It's going to kill me! I feel so awful because I have done too much. I am utterly desperate for help and school drop off is my worst nightmare at the mo. I don't have the words to explain how ill I feel. I just can't express how angry I am. I'm sorry, but it was him who asked for another baby and I don't see why his life shouldn't be disrupted! Surely I am more important than his course? I've agreed to try the two school drop offs if I feel OK on those mornings because the little ones are in nursery so I can rest after. But as for pushing me to do more and more...

holdon4tomorrow Mon 28-Jan-13 05:45:01

Hi all

I hope its ok to join. I've spent the night reading this thread, crying at times, partly with relief and partly at what others have gone through.

I feel a bit of a fraud though - 12+2 weeks pregnant+had hg since wk5 with two hospitalisations etc. Although having awful time of it (bed bound, can't work) I haven't had it as bad as some of you here - saw one lady was throwing up 60x a day!

At my worst, its been 7-8+horrendous nausea. Its my first pregnancy.

Been touched at how supportive you all are to each other so was hoping its ok to join?

Hugs to all x

BarmeeMarmee Mon 28-Jan-13 08:26:04

Holdon I am actually a "graduate" of this thread now as DD is now 11 weeks old but I just wanted to "welcome" you to the thread and say sorry. To hear that another person is suffering. There is no benchmark as to who is better or worse-HG is horrific at whatever level you may be suffering and the support you will get on here is amazing. I know I couldn't have got through without it. Lucinda in particular does an amazing job of supporting.

I'm sorry I can't respond to all of you personally (DS is curled up on my lap watching Peppa Pig so doing this one handed! And DD is gearing up to complain she wants her nappy changed!) but I just wanted to say I still read this thread regularly and I'm so sorry there are so many of you suffering at the moment. Other people can't ever really understand no matter how much they may try so its great you have each other. And remember... This too will pass!

LucindaE Mon 28-Jan-13 09:14:50

Holdon Welcome, sympathies, and don't feel a fraud, if you are in bed you've got it badly! I'm glad to say only a minority on here have it as badly as being sick 50+ times a day. It's very lonely and isolating and frustrating and even when one can eat one has to eat rubbish for a long while, about which people can be judgemental, thinking that is one's normal diet. It is demoralising to be where you are, so early on, but time slowly passes. Can you bear reading or listening to the radio at the moment?
Room Hugs. It is hardest on you, and if OH wanted another baby and knew you were likely to suffer, he really should not be asking you to do more. Can you get him to read MOH's wonderful website or Helpher where there's advice for family members/partners so he does see that you simply can't solve things by trying to soldier on? I do feel for you.
Welcome to Lotta when she turns up...
Barmee Thank you for your lovely words blush and coming on to encourage people.
Reebok How are things today? Hopeful and Littlemiss and Everyone?
Back later.

holdon4tomorrow Mon 28-Jan-13 15:53:20

Aww thanks ladies for the welcome!

I'm just absolutely in AWE of those who are able to work at the moment. I had to quit my job recently due to HG getting bad. I didn't want to, but they made it v difficult for me to continue.

Luckily (or not, depending!) I'm a freelancer who works at home so this job was a 2day a week thing in addition to my freelancing the rest of the time. Embarrassingly, even though I technically wfh I've had to stop working because HG got so bad. Makes me which makes me more ashamed when I read about the amazing ladies on here going into work at Greggs or teaching when all I have to do is a put a laptop on my lap and write or pick up the phone and do interviews. But apart from the odd article I just haven't been able to do it. And talking on the phone makes me more sick - dunno why!

Maybe I'm a wimp wink.

Reebok you've really, really been through the wars of late. I've been reading your updates with bated breath hoping things improve for you. Hugs.

Room I know re Odanestron - I've read nothing but amazing things about it but knew it would be a fight to get it. I kinda lied to my GP so I could get it (I said my gynae had recommended it to me. He hadn't. I don't have a gynae..) but it's helped me lots so far.

I hope things get sorted with your OH, it doesn't seem fair that he's putting this pressure on you when you need to rest. I hope you're able to talk to him about it when he's in the right frame of mind and make him see how bad things are for you - you're the one suffering here.

Belle sounds like you have a good work situ going on there, although I'm soooo amazed/impressed that you're even working with HG, like Reebok and others!

LittleMiss glad you got out and about - sometimes fresh air does help. A bit. Can't wait for Spring, when the beautiful flowers peep their little shy heads out of the ground smile

Reebok Mon 28-Jan-13 16:36:26

Welcome Holden and thank you for your support. I'm so sorry to hear how awful you feel an hope hG will be short lived for you.

Well guys, I made it through the day with only my morning vomit so far. Felt very nauseous during day but my TA was amazing and took over so I could have a lay down on the carpet with cushions. Was lovely to see my class today...plastered with hugs from them. They were excited to see me and happy I'm back. Hoping the hG is on the decline as ive hit 15 weeks today. So exhausted and almost home so will go straight to bed for a bit.

Hope everyone is ok today!

LucindaE Mon 28-Jan-13 18:02:15

Reebok I'm so glad you managed the day - and sweet about the kids being so delighted to see you -but still hope union might be able to arrange a bit of staggered return for you?
Holdon You are no wimp. I'm in awe of Belle Hopeful and the others who stagger in too. I have said before, how they avoid giving a public demonstration of how bad it is (on the floor) I'll never know, though Belle did have that misfortune with the Waste Paper Bin and fainting episode last time. I'm glad you've got Ondansetron, that was clever of you.
Room Hugs. How are things today?

holdon4tomorrow Mon 28-Jan-13 18:19:49

Reebok awwww, so sweet about the lil kiddies. I'm glad you're glad to be back. Do hope you get to have a staggered return to work though. Fingers crossed that HG is on the decline for you - tons of websites/studies say it fades from week 14 onwards and is fully gone by week 20-22 for the majority of women, so the fact you're 15 weeks I hope it's gonna pack its stupid bags soon!
*LucindeE - Aye, I hate lying but I figured that I'd heard so many good things about Ondansetron that I was desperate to try it. Sometimes you just gotta do what it takes, right?

AFM, I've got my 12 week scan tomorrow - it's my third one this pregnancy. I'm classed as high risk due to my disability. I know she's OK - have a fetal doppler so been listening to her little heartbeat, but still a little nervous if they find anything out tomorrow. Hope she doesn't have what I have, but if she does, she'll have me as a bad role model grin

BelleEtLaBaby Mon 28-Jan-13 18:23:07

Hey ladies.

Reebok well done for getting through the day smile How you doing now?

Holdon welcome. Remember not to feel bad just because others have it 'worse'. It's really important to acknowledge how bad you have it compared to most! It's very supportive here smile

Hi everyone else. How are we all doing?

I'm off work for the week. Vomited all day yesterday. Been changed to cyclizine so let's see how that goes sad

Quick post to say I had a terrible night, managed to get through the day and I'm going to bed now because I can't manage any more. So glad Reebok got through her day too. I met a fellow sufferer in RL today who prayed for me which was very uplifting. I'm not ignoring anyone else on here - just can't keep going any more. Night, night.

cupcake78 Mon 28-Jan-13 18:58:22

Just a quick check in. Hope all if you who are feeling slightly brighter can hold onto the thought that there is hope!

Im now 18+6 and although still nauseous when I'm tired the vomiting has eased off. Had a relapse day last Thursday and spent the day being sick and feeling rubbish. It reminded me that I must rest when I can otherwise I will be ill again.

I am managing to hold off being sick without passing out most days and although still feel sick everyday it's not as debilitating as it was!

Hopefully this is the beginning of the end.

I hope all of you that are still suffering can hold onto the fact that each day that passes is another day nearer feeling human again thanks

cupcake78 Mon 28-Jan-13 19:01:23

Room I'm also in bed! It's either rest or be sick.

Ds thinks its great that he gets to stay up later than mumwink

holdon4tomorrow Mon 28-Jan-13 19:09:04

Room HUGS. Hope you sleep well and have a better night tonight.
Cupcake78 I like that, gotta look as each day gone as a day towards recovery smile

Being bed bound for 8+weeks is a literal pain in the bum. ARGHHHH, I banish thee, HG! Taking lots of hats off to everyone who is able to get up+about. I'm starting to hate our bed. :/ Even my cat doesn't join me for a snuggle anymore. She prefers her own company in the other room. CATS!

Hugs to all xxx

holdon4tomorrow Mon 28-Jan-13 19:17:06

btw Belle GOOD LUCK on cyclazine. Really hope it works for you. And thank you for your kind words. xx

LucindaE Tue 29-Jan-13 13:38:03

Holdon All the best with the scan - the downside I've heard to Ondansetron is it's locking up of the bowels, but I'm sure you've discovered that already and perhaps those suppositories, too...by the way, do you find ice lollies or flat coke helpful? These things vary so with different people...
Belle Oh no for awful day, and I hope the week off and the cyclazine put things right. As you are so determined to go in, you must have been feeling foul?
Room Poor old you, I hope a night's sleep has made you a little better.
Cupcake So glad puking has eased off for you.
Reebok How are you? Any news from union about an easier schedule?
Hugs to all.

BelleEtLaBaby Tue 29-Jan-13 15:33:24

Hi Lucinda. Yes, am pretty rough. I just couldn't hold anything down yesterday. My GP visit was a mixed bag. He asked the dreaded ginger biscuit question hmm. I was like: I've done this before. I almost died last time. Would I be here, pregnant, asking for potentially untested drugs if I thought I could just have a ginger biscuit and pop back to work?

To be fair, once I laid it all out he was better. Prescribed ondandetron suppositories but I can't get them, apparently they are not being made. So cyclizine it is and bed rest for now. I asked about ondansetron. He said in theory he would prescribe it but he would want me to be at the stage of not holding fluid down/dehydrated. Just because its a bit more untested, and we talked about cleft palate risk. I agreed to try cyclizine in the first instance, with a view to ondansetron if I get any worse.

I hate being off. The guilt is awful. But I am having balance issues again and I feel like the floor is lurching beneath me, and I teach dance and drama so it's very difficult. I am just going to have to resign myself to it I suppose. sad

BelleEtLaBaby Tue 29-Jan-13 15:34:24

Sorry, mistake above. Gp prescribed domperidone suppositories not ondansetron.

I'm off to see the midwife today and I'm after some advice. So, I am rarely sick if I take the ondansetron but vomit everything up if I don't. Even though I'm not vomiting most of the time, I feel weak, dizzy, nauseas and exhausted. I really don't feel well. Is this normal while having HG that is well suppressed by ondansetron? Should I be asking the midwife (or GP) about it?

BelleEtLaBaby Wed 30-Jan-13 10:05:52

Certainly ask. You could well be vitamin deficient and dehydrated? I feel constantly dizzy, tired and like the world is lurching about. AFAIK the HG can do this to you. Anything which doesn't feel right, you should get checked - how many weeks are you now?

I'm 17 weeks tomorrow (or maybe a few days ago according to the second dating scan hmm). I think I'll have a bit of a whine and see what she says! I think I may have a little nap now as the DC aren't here. I'll update later.

holdon4tomorrow Wed 30-Jan-13 12:14:09

Belle that's just dreadful your GP suggested the ginger biscuit 'trick'. I actually feel my entire body tense when someone mentions it. I've heard it so often it just sounds such as stupid thing to say. As you say, considering we're pregnant and suffering if we thought a sodding biscuit would help, would we not have tried this some time ago!?

I totally relate to your guilt about being off - but especially because you teach such active subjects, it's so important to only go to work when you feel good and ready or you'll push yourself too hard and get worse sad Easy for me to say, I know.

Lucinde yep, been warned about the constipation issues. I'm getting by at the moment with just one tablet every few days. It means I have one, sometimes two good day out of 3 but rather that than enemas :/

BTW, I can't bear coke, I never liked it as a kid and the idea of it makes me retch smile

Room I'm exactly the same when I'm not taking Odan - dizzy etc. I'm sure that's all part of HG. Whenever I have a bath OH has to be on hand because I pass out afterwards. And it's not because the water is hot, just because I've been so ill. Room let us know how you get on with your MW - hope she's supportive smile

ASFM, had my 12 1/2 week scan yesterday. Little one is fine and was showing off her little cycling skills. Nice to see she has such a plump tummy when her mummy has lost weight and is hardly eating. ;) Na, I'm glad some of the nutrients are getting through to her, my darling little parasite ;)

I was told off because I stupidly mentioned that I use a home fetal doppler. I really don't see the issue - I find the heartbeat and it reassures me. Quite frankly, I've had such a miserable pregnancy that it's the only thing that's reminded me that there is a little person in there and has kept me going. Otherwise I just feel ill all the time and don't see why the hell I'm going through it. Hearing her little heart makes it all worth while.


holdon4tomorrow Wed 30-Jan-13 12:18:01

BTW I didn't know about Odanestron and the cleft palette risk. I know that no drugs are safe in pregnancy but... I feel awful. I'm disabled and my baby is already at risk of having my limb deformities and genetic condition. Am I selfish for possibly giving her something else as well? sad

BelleEtLaBaby Wed 30-Jan-13 12:24:57

No no no. I didn't explain that very well. It's a very unproven idea, just one study, and in no way backed up or verified. Even that study said the risk was tiny. I'm sorry I didn't mean to panic you. I just wanted to illustrate to my gp that I was informed and did not want an effing biscuit smile Please don't panic, I don't want to have upset you thanks

holdon4tomorrow Wed 30-Jan-13 12:37:38

Awwww Belle pls don't apologise, and you didn't upset me. I'm just a natural worrier so I went into research-overdrive, but did see it was just one study. Phew! But yes, no effing biscuits please, for the love of god! grin

fl0b0t Wed 30-Jan-13 13:35:59

Hi Guys can I wade in and ask a question?

I'm just 6+2 but have been quite sick for a couple of weeks. I have been nauseous 24/7 or almost two weeks and actually being sick a couple of times a day for the last few days. I went to see my doctor today and she was very kind and understanding and she said she's happy to sign me off work for a further week if I still feel ill, however trying to avoid drugs if not necessary. I have lost 2kg in the last couple of days and finding it very hard to do anything (cooking, eating, leaving the house, shopping, cleaning, work, reading.....anything!)

I assume this isn't as serious as HG but there's few women on the other threads I've been on so I'm not sure they understand how I feel!

Can I stay to chat and moan? :-)

LucindaE Wed 30-Jan-13 17:59:42

Flo Welcome and feel free to moan. You're symptoms do seem to have started early, and you seem to have lost a lot of weight quickly. I hope you avoid hyperemesis, but watch out for things getting worse. Are you managing to retain fluids? It might be a good idea to get in kesosticks, just in case things get worse, with the danger of dehydration. Do ice lollies, flat coke and nibbles of crisps help you at all?
Holdon Don't worry, be happy! As Belle says, they are always doing studies that suggest this or that connection, but any number of women have had no choice but to be on a cocktail of drugs including the maximum doses of Ondansetron on this thread and all over without reported abnormalities. The dangers of chronic dehydration massively outweigh any risks from taking a whole combination of drugs. That scan sounds sweet. Why were you told off about the doppler?
Belle Dance and drama, aagh! That does not go with Hyperemesis. I can't believe that GP saying that. You would think it might possibly occur to them that women do try all those home remedies as a matter of course, and find that nothing works at all...
Room Poor you, it is dismal. I think there is lingering weakness from the illness for a long time, too.
Reebok Hopeful How are things at work? Littlemiss Ihope (comparatively) OK?

fl0b0t Wed 30-Jan-13 18:31:31

Thanks Lucinda I also hope I can avoid! I seem to be able to keep fluids down and we have some kesosticks from my cat (long story) so I tested today and I'm ok. Nothing really seems to help, except currently I've got travel sick bands on and they've alleviated a little bit......

Reebok Wed 30-Jan-13 20:08:12

Sorry you're all feeling rubbish guys.

Am exhausted and can't believe I've made it through 3 days. The vomiting seems to be calming down. Luckily having a 20 min nap in the medical room while at work. Helps a bit as feel more sick when I'm tired. Union should be able to get me reduced hours Lucinda! Fingers crossed. So tired so going to sleep now guys...2 more days to get through! X

hi everyone! sorry been quite for a few days, back at work on Mon and Wed this week and DS was really sick on Monday night/Tuesday with a bug. I was up with him during the night on Mon and Tues and being up at all hours threw my nausea meds schedule off a bit so I was pretty sick again on Tues and also yesterday morning.

Feeling a wee bit better today, tho MIL has DS this morning and i'm very relieved to get an extra couple of hours in bed, feeling tired and queasy. 12+6 now and I do seem to remember starting to emerge from worst of sickness around 14 weeks with DS, tho it continued to lurk for rest of pg, but I really hope that happens again this time round. It would be so nice to eat a proper meal again!!!

holdon - use away at fetal doppler, i did in my last pg up until i was able to feel DS moving and kicking and it didn't do me, my mental state or baby any harm at all

belle - ginger bloody biscuits!!! Acupuncturist told me ginger is actually worse for a lot of people with HG cos ginger is warming and HG often causes your whole digestive system to feel too warm and acidic, so putting warm stuff like ginger or curry powder or chilli in is a very bad idea. Thanks GP...but no thanks!!

room - Unfortunately I did feel pretty lousy energy wise the whole way through my pg with DS, even when taking the drugs. Drugs did help with nausea but i often felt tired, a bit dizzy and pretty listless. It can be really frustrating when you have friends who are literally glowing and full of energy and you are struggling to make it up a set of stairs or to wash your hair, get dressed and leave the house. But some weeks are better than others. Hope mw is able to help you out or at least reassure you

holdon4tomorrow Thu 31-Jan-13 13:03:15

Hey flobot and welcome. In the nicest way, I hope you don't have to stay in this group long wink (i.e that you don't develop HG), although it sounds like you're already having a tough time of it.

LittleMissSnowShine TY for doppler reassurance. I will definitely continue to use it. We're up to the same pregnancy stage smile Are you due around the 9th Aug? I hope you HG follows same pattern as first and you feel better soon.

Reebok you are effing AMAZING for being at work. Woah. Hope your hours get reduced soon, bless ya.

Lucinde TY smile They just weren't impressed I was using one, said it would give me a false sense of security if I mistook what I thought was the HB for something else and then wouldn't know if something was wrong. Stupid. Because if I didn't have the doppler I wouldn't know something was wrong anyway.

Room Hope all is OK with you, hun

holdon - yes 9th August woo hoo! Seems half a life time away in January when it's still so cold and wintery but by the time spring rolls round i'm sure we'll be feeling very excited!!

fl0b0t Thu 31-Jan-13 13:15:25

Cheers holdon I bloody hope so too. Very hard as just 6 weeks and we're desperate not to tell anyone. And I'm bored!!! smile

holdon4tomorrow Thu 31-Jan-13 13:49:07

Sorry to pester, just me again. Been reading the MOH website recommended at the start of this thread and it said that 67% of HG sufferers have HG their entire pregnancies. This has truly depressed me. I know it lasts longer than MS, but everywhere I've read said that it is usually gone by week 22, apart for 10% women? So which is correct? Not that figures can predict our individual situation, but it's just made me feel pretty shock.

I don't think I can cope with this for much longer and I'm the one who hasn't got it half as bad as others on here who are really suffering.

holdon4tomorrow Thu 31-Jan-13 13:51:12

flobot I SO relate to that. It's horrible not being able to tell people. Hang in there - if you can't work atm, waste the days away by watching rubbish TV which will hopefully make it go quicker before 12 weeks mark arrives. Heh. I'm so desperately bored/miserable, I think I'm going to start watch Jeremy Kyle. Shoot me now.

holdon4tomorrow Thu 31-Jan-13 13:53:19

Snowshine God I HOPE so. I LOVE spring and I just peeked out of the bedroom curtains just now and nearly cried. It's such a lovely day and I can't enjoy it. I don't want to miss the beautiful spring flowers. Want to feel better. Baby Plum, you are making your mummy very sick and as a punishment, you're going to get double the kisses when you're born smile.

fl0b0t Thu 31-Jan-13 14:18:43

I'm enjoying "The Real Housewives of...." such utter shite but quite entertaining! 12 weeks seems so far away still..... I'm nervous about the concept of twins (my ms started at 4+4.....) so almost tempted to shell out for an early scan to pass the time.... but that doesn't make 12 weeks come any closer.....

Gatorade Thu 31-Jan-13 16:31:17

Hi all, sorry I disappeared for a while (after all of your kind words I feel guilty for not responding), I have spent the last 5 nights hooked up to a drip in hospital and I have just been discharged, feel quite down in the dumps about it all to be honest but pleased to have not vomited for the last 12 hours.

I really missed my 11 month old DD whilst I was in hospital, but I couldn't look after her whilst I was at home and as much as I hate to admit this I couldn't stand her smell, I actually feel tearful thinking of it now (she doesn't smell bad!) but I couldn't even hug her without it triggering my gag reflex. Has anyone else experienced this? Does it get better? The only upside is that my husband is very hands on and we have a wonderful nanny who has stepped up and worked extra hours whilst I have been ill.

On a brighter note they scanned me yesterday, I was dated as 8+1 and the baby seemed to have a good strong heart beat.

Another bit of advice I need is work related, I went back to work 3 weeks ago after my first maternity leave, only 3 days per week but I have a reasonably stressful job with a lot of responsibility (senior management), I don't know what to do about working/being signed off work for longer. I haven't told my employer what the issue is (they know I have been in hospital this week but don't know I am pregnant). I know if I return to work next week the exhaustion will make things worse, also I need to drive to client meetings and I don't think I should given how drowsey my medication is making me. But, if I don't go back I will have to tell them I am 'with child'! What approach have others taken with this.

Sorry for such a self centred post, I will try to read through and catch up on everyone else's progress.

fl0b0t Thu 31-Jan-13 17:16:53

Gatorade do you have to tell your work? I'm just 6+4 and have been off this week (and signed off next week if I'm not better)- if your gp signs you off, will it just say "sick"? Sorry to hear you've been so unwell!

gator - really sympathise, feel so guilty about not being able to spend as much time or do as much fun stuff with ds at the min but in the end a couple of months with a sick mum versus years and years of a brother or sister to play with and share stuff with...i think its worth it. Good luck with work, i did tell my manager just before xmas even tho it was v early on cos i knew sickness wd be coming and having her know has made work a lot easier to deal with - if im really sick or tired i can come in late, leave early etc. Hopefully your colleagues will be understanding

holdon - i know, i really wanted a walk today but not up for it today sad that stat on MOH's website scarede too even tho i know by 14 weeks with ds i started to improve. Yes it's true tho that hg never truly goes away in the sense that certain smells still make you gag and you will prob always be a bit low on energy and inclined to be really sick again if you push yourself too hard but in a day to day kind f way i found that if i took things fairly easy i felt almost normal some days after 14 weeks, took a trip with DH, painted nursery, went to.my sister's 21st, finished most of my phd etc even tho i was flat on mt back with sickness for nearly 8 weeks. Hang on to the hope that by time snow drops are up both of us will be emerging from our hg cocoon!!

Gatorade Thu 31-Jan-13 17:50:18

I guess i don't have to tell work fl0b0t but they will be wondering what is up with me (and will probably guess) as other than pregnancy related and appendix removal I haven't had a single sick day in the 10+ years I've worked at the firm! I wouldn't have worried so much but having had a second trimester loss before I am very nervous about telling people.

Thanks for the kind words littlemiss, I like the way you have put that, you are so right that a sibling will be worth it for DD, at least she is young enough to forget about this period.

LucindaE Thu 31-Jan-13 18:19:06

Gatorade Oh no about hospitalisation, that's a long time hooked up to drip, I remember myr previous post about your name and my usual 'have you got kesosticks' but not what meds you were on? Which ones do they have you on now? I do hope they are effective, poor you. I didn't have an LO to smell a bad to me, but I know my OH frankly stank to me when I was ill and still smelt too strong for the rest of the pregnancy. It must be really distressing with an LO, who needs hugs.
FB Did you say you had kesosticks left over from cat's illness? grin. It's so difficult about having to tell people, some have to because employers mustn't descriminate against a woman with a pregnancy related illness, according to legislation, but it's obvious from posts on here that they do in practice.
Holdon I think most people start to feel a lot better between fifteen and twenty weeks, and even those who suffer throughout are almost never as bad later on. I think it doesn't go in the sense of complete recovery, though- residual chronic heartburn is common, though with a lot it's helped by meds, and fatigue and things smelling weird, etc. But infinitely better!
Littlemiss Finished PHD? Painted nursery? The energy...
Reebok So glad about reduced hours.
Apologies to anyone rudely overlooked.

Gatorade Thu 31-Jan-13 18:36:49

Hi LucindaE, I was on Cyclizine pre hospital admittance (unfortunately it doesn't seem to help my sickness and actually makes me feel worse), in hospital they tried IV cyclizine (no help), injected Metoclopramide (no help) and then IV Ordansetron (which finally worked).

Once I stopped being sick (Ordansetron didn't get rid of the nausea completely but seemed to stop the bile vomit cycle I had been in) they reintroduced the Metoclopramide and phased out the Ordansetron and fingers crossed it seems to be working!

I'm also taking the usual Ranitidine and Thiamine. The hospital kindly gave me a couple of viles of ordanstetron which I can take to my GP to have injected if I get stuck in a vomit cycle again - I really want to avoid another hospital admittance although they were not happy that I had waited for +4 ketones to get admitted this time (I have promised to come back if it gets to +2 again and go to the GP to be injected if it gets to +1)

LucindaE Thu 31-Jan-13 19:25:36

Gatorade I'm glad that they're taking the ketones seriously and have a contingency plan worked out! Fingers crossed; you must have felt terrible on 4+ ketones.

Gatorade - cyclizine worked ok for me with DS but has been totally useless this time round. I've got procloperazine now and it seems a bit better, tho trying to avoid ranitidine at the min cos I will be living on it in third tri lol Hope your new drug combo works out well for you this time. I know how nervous you must feel about telling work, particularly after mc, but if you are really suffering then I think you will feel better if you let them know what's going on. Hopefully they will follow the legislation (and show some basic human decency) and give you a bit of a break until you're feeling a bit more human again yourself.

Lucinda - Hmm, yes, probably had a lot more energy then than I have since DS was born and I've been a busy working mum!

Reebok Thu 31-Jan-13 19:54:37

Thank you Holden. I'm just about making it through the day. Almost puked up on the street on the way home. Managed to hold it until I got home though.

Does anyone know when you start to feel the baby? I thought I felt an odd flutter about ten mins ago but wasn't sure if it was just gas! Lol I'm 16 weeks on Monday so I'm guessing it's probably too soon and just wishful thinking.

Sorry I can't reply to each post individually at the moment. Am exhausted and will try to catch up on posts on weekend. Night hG family!

Ps welcome flobot...hopefully no hG for you this time!

fl0b0t Thu 31-Jan-13 20:43:12

Lucinda- Yes indeed- he's diabetic! We've not actually had to use them yet, but bought them incase of hypoglycemia

Reebok-cheers... and don't say "this time" --NEVER AGAIN! smile

I've not been feeling any better this week- would you recommend I make another dr appointment and see what drugs they can prescribe? I don't want to take drugs, but I feel so awful sad

flobot - i started cyclazine around 7 weels when nausea became constant so no harm in making an appt with gp for fri or mon and seeing what they can give you - its even handy just having the tablets in the house in case it suddenly kicks in. Good luck

BelleEtLaBaby Thu 31-Jan-13 22:13:02

Well, ladies, I've been spectacular today. I threw up in the sink during my booking in appt. Then I threw up on DH's feet on the way home (literally across the road). He is cross, but somewhat placated as he will now need new shoes. And I've just thrown up an entire fish & chip supper and may never eat battered cod again as a result! I'm signed off for next week too. Here we go again... smile Am surprisingly cheerful, considering. But I do seem to feel best at about 10pm for about an hour. Maybe I should suggest night classes...?!

My midwife was luffly and had a luxuriant moustache. AND she never once offered me a biscuit smile Hurrah, MW, you passed the test! She was delighted with me and all my health issues - she got to use forms and referrals she's never had to use in a 20 year career. That's cos I'm speshul, innit smile

Gator bless you. Glad you are home. IV cyc is a bitch if I remember correctly. Burns on the way in. When I was first in hosp with hg last time they gave me Stemetil by suppository and I was begging for some to take home but they wouldn't let me sad I was all angry bastards smile DH thought it was funny. I asked him how rotten did he think he would have to be feeling to be begging for a pill the size of a bullet to shove up his bum twice a day. He shut up after that grin

Flo get yourself on meds ASAP. The earlier you take them, the better they work. Honestly, they do make a difference. You don't have to soldier on because you're pregnant. If you were ill and not knocked up, you wouldn't think twice about meds. The only one they get iffy about is ondansetron, really, and the others are all about as safe as any med can be. There's something about saying a doctor has given you an actual prescription that makes the Effing Ginger Brigate fuck off a little bit, too. I always say oh, I've got a pregnancy condition called hyperemesis, which causes excessive vomiting. I'm on medication. People keep their biscuits to themselves generally then smile

Hope all coping ok today. My sense of humour seems to have kicked in, although it is gallows based smile Unmumsnetty (and slightly sicky) hugs all round.

belle - oh you poor thing! i made it thru all my pg appts without throwing up on anyone but i fell down the stairs at 38 weeks and needed a scan and i threw up on that mw and after that it was all down hill really! during labour i puked copiously on myself and anyone that came near me for about 20 hours lol loving your gallows humour and your attitude towards ginger biccies brigade - god love my mum but in all 3 pregnancies she has suggested those bloody biscuits!!! hmm

BelleEtLaBaby Fri 01-Feb-13 07:58:51

Ginger biscuits. Dry crackers. Have you tried sipping water? Ginger tea?

Oh eff off. Do you really think I wouldn't have tried all that, and just leapt to time off and medication? There are still people in my family who I just know think I'm being a princess. I caught my stepmum muttering 'well ginger biscuits worked for my friend.' Said friend sailed through pregnancy, and stepmum has never been pg. So they can both go jump in a pile of ginger I have Hyperemesis Gravidarum. It's like saying a glass of water can help a headache, but it isn't any good on a serious migraine.

My other pet peeve is the duchess of Cambridge, who has not helped matters by being pictured playing hockey days before hospitalisation and emerged from hospital (no doubt up to the eyeballs on ondansetron) looking glamorous, if delicate. I'm glad she is recovering. But I'm not her! I had it all the way to the end of my pregnancy last time and I looked haggard and half dead the entire time.

Ooh I am grumpy this morning! I feel shocking. I've started getting mouth ulcers and they are so painful. This happened last time too. DH has just quit smoking so his patience is a little thin. We are living with in laws at the moment too so I can't even do this in privacy - I'm just vomiting all over someone else's house. There's something about this that makes me feel very vulnerable and its not ideal feeling this way not in my own home sad

How is everyone this morning?

fl0b0t Fri 01-Feb-13 08:36:04

Thanks belle that's helped me feel better! What's even WORSE is that I hate ginger with a firey fiery passion. When people mention ginger, I want to vomit on them.... (maybe they could get new shoes...?)

LucindaE Fri 01-Feb-13 09:22:04

Flo I so agree with others, do demand meds, taking someone to help argue your case if it's difficult to talk (as it is, when you think you are going to be sick any minute).
Belle Lol about shoes, I did that on my own shoes once, those Public Puking experiences are awful, hugs. That wicked sense of humour is wonderful and you are brave to show it, but I'm really sorry about the Fish and Chips Reappearing, it so puts you off any food that comes up at once. As you love an awful joke like me, I feel free to say that Hyperemesis reminded me of a horrible conjuring show where with food, First You Don't See It, Now You Do...
Gatorade Reebok Littlemiss I hope OK. Littlemiss Was it your stepmother who made that outrageous remark about ginger biscuits? I honestly think if somebody says that, they deserve to be puked on, sorry!
I hope everyone is coping today.

Belle - Ooh living with in-laws! Tough going confused Mine are very lovely and they live close by but for vomiting and moping around i am very glad to have my own bed/sofa/bathroom. No wonder you're feeling a bit grumpy! I actually think Kate has done me a favour - for some ridiculous reason Kate Middleton is my nickname in work because it's a community project and everyone thinks i'm very posh (really i'm not at all and i guarantee if you met me and heard my Belfast accent you would certainly agree!). So now me and Kate are both pregnant. Both due in the summer. Both sick with HG. It's kind of helped people in work understand what's going on tbh. Except of course we don't have private hospitals and palaces to recover in, nor a team of dedicated stylists to make sure we look lovely on our occasional trips out. angry

flobot - I used to think ginger was ok, not my favourite thing, but fine. Three pregnancies later and I too hate it with a passion. Hate the smell of it, taste of it, people mentioning it. GRRR!!!

Lucinda - It was Belle's stepmum who said ginger biscuits helped her friend and my flipping mum who keeps pressing them on me, and oatcakes, just to nibble on during the night, you know, to 'stop me feeling sick'. lol. Bless her, she genuinely does mean well but you would think she would know by now that as soon as my hormone levels rise i just become a puking machine and ginger bloody biscuits will never help!!!

BelleEtLaBaby Fri 01-Feb-13 10:50:32

grin at Lucinda. Its exactly like that!

Oh it's bad today. I'm barely keeping down water - although I've sipped half a glass of apple hi-juice squash in the last hour and it's still in. I've been craving apple juice but I avoid the real thing as its too acidic -excellent consultant last time said no citrus, no acid, no ginger (I luffed him) and no iron-rich food like red meat so I am avoiding like the plague. Replacing juice with weak hi-juice seems to quell the craving. This morning's single little (usually safe) brioche came back and it's worse on an empty tummy. I've got to get something to stay down and it might improve. DH is making me a hot weetabix - usually very safe and not awful on the way up if not. Wish me luck!

Lotta1234 Fri 01-Feb-13 10:59:36


Can I join the thread? On Promethazine an 6w5 but threw up this morning and felt v sick day before. Is it realistic to think there's a tablet out there that might stop me feeling and being sick?


fl0b0t Fri 01-Feb-13 14:22:04

thanks guys. I've not kept anything down so far today- this mornings yoghurt made quick reappearance, as did soupy lunch. I've hated toast all week, but now my husband is home and making toast it becomes imminently more eatable. I've made an appt for monday, so fingers crossed I see a nice kind dr who understands!

You see...both my acupuncture hippy lady and belle's consultant said NO GINGER so angry to anyone who dares suggest a flippin ginger nut biscuit to any of us for the rest of our pgs!

Sorry belle and flobot that you are having bad days. I've been up since 5 and I was puking my face off at 6am and didn't start to feel humanish til 10 but ive kept stuff down since then. My best hours are usually 10 til 3 tho and then the evening is a big slump again. Would love a nice bit of scampi or a chicken burger from the chippy tonight but i know if about an hour i'll prob be face down on bed, groaning and counting minutes til DH gets home from work and can relieve me from DS duties!

And welcome lotta - there's a few diff drugs out there www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk/help/treatments/#2 tho i don't think any of them will really stop you feeling / being sick entirely. But they can help if your sickness turns into full blown HG

CrikeeThree Fri 01-Feb-13 15:53:45

Can I just sign in? sad
I was on a thread with fl0b0t so I'm not surprised to see her here! (sorry it's not got any better for you)

I'm about 9weeks pregnant, and since yesterday, have been on anti-sickness meds (begins with B! Can't remember the name... sorry!)

I've had ms for a few weeks now, but this week it got really bad (all day puking etc etc)

Turned up at doctor yesteday, who confirmed I was dehydrated (measured BP sitting down/ standing up etc), signed me off work til end of next week.

Yesterday, I felt awful all day, but actually felt brilliant by the evening.
However, I woke up today and threw up again.
Have been struggling to nibble/sip all day since.... but feeling really down.

Feel a bit of a fraud, as it sounds like you all have much worse cases than me, but I'm feeling a bit down today, as I thought the meds had "cracked it"... but obviously not.

Anyway... hello everyone! And will look through and look at the links later... thanks!

fl0b0t Fri 01-Feb-13 17:35:23

Welcome crikee, sorry you've had to join me. Picked my husband up from the airport and that was IT for the day. Spent the day in bed, nibbling toast and vomiting. Trying to keep hydrated but my wee is really cloudy and quite dark (for me). My temp has been 99.8 (37.7) for three days and I feel very close to giving up on everything. I'm dreading the weekend;more long days of feeling bad through the cycle of "feel sick.must eat something.be sick.must eat something" rinse and repeat (ad nauseum?!). Grrrrrrr .

Rant over. Apologies.

LucindaE Fri 01-Feb-13 17:52:42

Lotta and Crikee Welcome both (or four?), and I heard you might be coming over. Sorry you feel so foul and Crikee Don't feel a fraud, and if those meds aren't workking - would it be forgotten how to spell it, Buccastem? - don't hestitate to go back and say so to the GP, do as I say not as I did and don't suffer in silence! It might be a good idea to take someone for moral support if you can and you're feeling too awful to argue your corner. Lotta Many women on here swear by Ondansetron or a combination of that and Cyclezine or Metrclopramide,but sadly as others say, unfortunately at the early stages the nausea is most likely to persist. it can be as debiliating as much as the actual vomiting in not getting enough fluids down.
Belle and Littlemiss Sorry for mix up over mothers/stepmothers and ginger biscuit recommendations, I only heard of ONE person who was helped by ginger on these threads (not biscuits) weird supplements. Belle I suppose at least the puking in the sink meant they had evidence of how bad it is, if they don't see you they don't seem to believe you! Will they change the meds?
Everyone, avoid museli and rice at all costsshock Belle I hope the Weetabix stayed put?
Reebok Poor you, you tidy thing - bins were my particular speciality (they didn't hae lids on in Ealing back then). Fatigue does make it worse, so that might account for it. I think you should demand anything from the GP that might help to get you through the hellishness of having to work with this.
Holdon and Gatorade I scrawled notes for you and can't read my appalling handwriting. Sorry about that.

LucindaE Fri 01-Feb-13 17:59:29

Flo Cross posted and I wanted to say, so agree that you need meds, poor you. This isn't normal and shouldn't be left untreated.
Hugs to all, apologies to Anyone rudely overlooked

Crikee - I hope things don't get any worse for you and the drugs really help. I do think most HG ladies have diff times of day when they feel ok, mine is usually late morning/early afternoon and apparently you get to have ok evenings. Take whatever you can get and make sure to eat and drink plenty when you're feeling ok

flobot - ooft that sounds terrible sad Didn't have an overly active day myself, a friend called round in the morning, i picked DS up from childminder at lunchtime and nipped into chemist to fill my prescription (trickier than it sounds with toddler plus toy truck in tow!) and then lounged at home rest of afternoon while DS took nap and then we watched peppa pig and played cbeebies games. Bad mummy but mummy couldn't drag herself off the sofa!!

Lucinda - Quite agree on the muesli front ;)

We might have another lady to join us from August thread, she's been hospitalised the last few days and feeling pretty down because she has other DCs at home so everyone keep an eye out for waves

BelleEtLaBaby Fri 01-Feb-13 18:09:09

Muesli! Rice! <shudders> so true. Also; popcorn <has horrifying flashback to last pg>

Perhaps it's food in bits that's worst ?

Reebok Fri 01-Feb-13 19:02:08

I did it guys! 5 full days at work! Exhausted but managed to make it through the nausea. Vomiting seems to be morning and late evening but so far, so good today! Got such bad hip pain today. Doesn't help having to bend down for the little kids at school constantly.

Welcome to the newbies! I hope this thread will be as helpful to you all as it has been to me these past 3 months. You will get through it. Demand drugs and don't feel guilty for taking them! You will be worse off not taking them.

Hope everyone feels better x

CrikeeThree Fri 01-Feb-13 19:05:30

Thanks Lucinda
Yes it is Buccastem. I put it under my lip but don't swallow it.
I think the one this morning didn't do much, as I puked up within half an hour of putting it there. Second one didn't seem to help nausea, but I didn't vomit this afternoon (despite feeling that I would).
I think you're right LittleMissSnowShine ...evenings seem to be "my time". I don't feel great, but I definitely don't feel as bad as I felt today.

Thanks also for the advice re: the doctor, Lucinda. I'll see how this goes. I think I was very lucky that he was so sympathetic when I went, as I have read about other GPs that weren't so good.

fl0b0t and LittleMiss I have basically done as little as possible today, and was also sat with the 2 DCs at one point today showing Peppa Pigs in quick succession!! Luckily my MIL is staying right now, so it takes off the heat a bit.

Gosh! I'km so glad I found this thread. I was feeling so sorry for myself!! smile

CrikeeThree Fri 01-Feb-13 19:06:39

Reebok , I saw that you're a teacher and am full of admiration for you.
I am too (secondary) and am signed off at the moment. Don't know what I'm going to do when I have to go back....
well done you!

fl0b0t Fri 01-Feb-13 19:41:11

reebok I am so impressed- well done you!

I had rice for dinner..... :-S

Also, I'm very jealous of "times of day" as I'm yet to find a good time of day. I had an afternoon nap (during Die Hard 1) which I felt better during, but then sadly woke up! BLEARGH!

Reebok Fri 01-Feb-13 19:57:42

Thanks Flobot and crikey! I've had lots of help luckily from the extra adults in my room so I can crash when I need to...which is often. Been off since 6 weeks and finally made it back at 15 weeks this Monday. Think HG is starting to subside (hopefully!!!)

Don't think about work yet crikey. Concentrate on getting better. I was kind of pressured into going back unfortunately as haven't got a very supportive boss. sad don't quite feel human yet but slightly more normal than I have in a long time...dunno if that makes sense. My brain isn't working!

Hello, could I join? I got sent here by a lovely lady on the due August thread (thanks littlemisssnowshine) I have been home half an hour after begging to be discharged after a spell in hospital. Basically I tried to battle through everything and ended up so poorly that when I finally got myself to the GP on wednesday morning I got rushed to hospital in an ambulance sad I have been on IV fluids (8 litres), IV ondansetron and cyclizine and also blood thinning jabs as the dehydration had made my blood a bit clotty. It's been horrible. I begged to get out as my DCs were missing me so much, and they agreed on the promise I get in touch as soon as I start to get dehydrated. Have also been signed off work, for 2 weeks to start with.

So, the plan is lots of sleeping and sipping water as often as I can and nibbling on small amounts of food. I'm 14 + 4 and hoping that I don't have too much longer of this!

BelleEtLaBaby Fri 01-Feb-13 21:23:19

Waves at waves

fl0b0t Fri 01-Feb-13 22:23:21

waves that sounds awful! I'm determined to get on top of this and not end up in hosp!

I don't know what to do with myself until Dr appt on Monday..... Any advice at all? I'm not sure i can cry and vomit through 2 1/2 more days.....

LucindaE Sat 02-Feb-13 09:18:52

Flo You poor thing, it sounds bad. How often is the puking? can you still retina liquids? Are ketones creeping up? Do keep us informed. Are ice lollies, ice cubes and sips of flat coke no use at all?
Waves Misssnowsine said you were in hopsital, poor you, welcome to the Thread Nobody Wants to Need, I'll just bring in some cushions and hopefully a bowl wont be required! My goodness, given how blase GP's tend to be about dehydration, I hate to think how high those ketones must have been!
Back soon.

fl0b0t Sat 02-Feb-13 09:49:45

Thanks lucinda-seem to be retaining liquids ok, only vomiting 2-3 times a day, usually well after I've eaten so not much comes up. I can handle the actual vomiting ok, but the nausea is overwhelming. Nothing seems to help, and anything other than water heightens the nasty taste in my mouth sad

LucindaE Sat 02-Feb-13 12:46:29

Flo I've just thought of something - silly me - you can get cyclazine over the counter if you don't admit to being pregnant. Insanely, if you do they won't give it to you. Could you get some of that to tide you over? You don't need to tell the GP on Monday!
Waves I hope you saw message below. Still horrified at how ill you must have been.
Belle Did you say you nearly died last time? You brave thing for gong through it again. Aagh! I hope puking has settled down. Those Public Puking Performances are the worst. If I went back to Ealing, those bins would shrink away from me( but they've been replaced by ones with lids now).
Lotta How are things now? Is the puking settling down?
BelleI so agree that the Duchess will have all sorts of expensive treatments probably unguessed at by NHS patients available to her, with money no object. Plus, don't discount a judicious bit of photoshop for making her look healthy. It would be much better publicity if she looked really ill, the high publicity is a double edged sword and I'm still angry at woman here being asked why they don't make an effort, and put make up on.
Reebok I missed that bit about baby moving. I felt the movements at fourteen weeks too, that little flutter was the beginning, isn't it sweet? I think if you are slight (and one becomes a lot more so before turning into a balloon) then you are meant to feel it very early. Some people don't feel it until about nineteen weeks, it seems to vary so.
Crikee How are things today?
Gatorade are you still feeling a bit better?
Room I hope not too exhausted, looking after those LO's?
Apologies to anyone rudely overlooked.

Reebok Sat 02-Feb-13 14:10:54

Ah so it's possible lucinda that I've felt movement. Had it again today and was trying so hard to concentrate and see if was flutters or just gas! Lol don't think it was gas. Gets so annoying when you think you've felt something and the doc or midwife says no, not possible at 15/16 weeks! Grrr

Good news so far guys....woke up feeling almost normal again. Was starving but didn't feel sick for once! And so far, so good. Like Room a few weeks ago, I sat there confused in search of my HG! Looks like early recovery is possible ladies!! Hopefully! *
looks around anxiously in case hG decides to make an unfortunate return...

BelleEtLaBaby Sat 02-Feb-13 14:40:10

Lucinda: sort of. I had HG pretty badly in my last pg, right up until the day I gave birth sad.

As a consequence, I was very depleted of nutrients and very dehydrated for a long time, and immobile/bedridden for many months. When DS was about 5 months old I went back to work (I was the only earner at the time) and a few days after returning, I tripped on my way into work and broke my foot. As a result of being immobilised again, I got a massive DVT in my leg, which was misdiagnosed as cramp. The clot shifted and shattered in my heart, ended up in several pieces in my lungs. My baby woke me up in the night and I realised I couldn't breathe. He saved me life smile

After it all happened, my consultant traced it back to the HG. I was very dehydrated for a long time and this can, as waves said, thicken the blood. Just lots of risk markers got missed in my case, but it's made things tricky this time around. I just knew I would have it again, so I've been medicated very early, and at the first sign working was making me worse, I've been signed off straight away. I'm on daily blood thinning injections, I wear support stockings, and I have foot and leg exercises to do. I can't have the home birth I wanted but I'm ok with that - I'll be particularly high risk after the birth and may not be allowed to breastfeed (although we are looking into that - I'll be really gutted if I can't bf this time). I'm also now a consultant-led pg and I am expecting LOTS of hospital appointments in the next few weeks.

I wish so much I'd known this could happen. I wouldn't have tried to soldier on as long as I did, I'd have demanded meds sooner, etc etc. The key focus this time is making certain I don't get dehydrated. It's tricky but I'm keeping fluid in ok at the moment. Now I'm off work and can lie down all day, I can let the meds do their thing and am now only throwing up twice or maybe three times a day, although the nausea and dizziness are awful.

Tubes tied after this one!

BelleEtLaBaby Sat 02-Feb-13 14:43:10

Ps can anyone tell me about the use of antihistamines in HG? And vitamin B6? What are they supposed to do?

fl0b0t Sat 02-Feb-13 19:05:33

belle that sounds terrifying! I'm amazed you're doing it again-very brave!

lucinda if I can stick it out til Monday I will, but if tomorrow is bad I will consider the cyclazine. What would I have to say to get hold.of it? Just say I've been sick?

Had another crappy day but enjoyed the rugby. Had a friend over who was wiped out with a virus for 2 weeks so he didn't ask any awkward questions.

Booked an early private scan for tuesdy smile now I'm checking for twins! Been sick since 5 eke so who knows?

Belle - Cyclizine is an antihistamine, v common in treatment of HG. I've taken it in all 3 pgs but this time round it hasn't been as helpful so i'm taking Stetemil instead. But ask me anything you want about cyclizine lol Think it's considered fairly safe, it's a pretty common first treatment, can be taken in tablet form or administered via IV and I was given it as an injection too once. Main side effect is drowsiness, and it's not effective for everyone.. Wow, that's scary about the clot sad Glad they are keeping a v close eye on you this time.

flobot - oh good luck with scan!! Twins! Wow, you never know! I have bucked all the trends - HG supposed to be a higher risk for first time mums but I've had it in all 3 pgs. HG meant to be worse for multiple pgs, but i've only had single babies. And HG possibly more prevalent for mums having girl babies. Well I have a son! Hope you can get some cyclizine or you're able to keep down some ice lollies today

Reebok - hurray for feeling normal! I've been feeling okish today too, ate some proper food and everything. Didn't eat a lot, not much of an appetite and pretty tired but was out and about for a few hours with DH and DS and haven't thrown up so high 5 to us!

waves - hello, sorry you're having to join us but this is the place to come and let it all out, the sickness, the frustration, how depressed it can make you. We'll get through it all together smile

Hi to everyone else, hope you're all having nice weekends and not feeling too awful. Nice to see a bit of sunshine today, spring slowly arriving...at last xx

Reebok Sat 02-Feb-13 21:41:35

Littlemiss, I spoke too soon. It appears the week has caught up with me sad the smell of hand wash had me retching so had to chuck it out and ask hubby to replace it with a non smelling one.

Belle, I'm on cyclizine...unfortunately not great with me this time round as I'm still sick and usually feel like a robot after taking it.

Welcome waves! Sorry you have to join the hG group but hoping the sickness will be short lived for you.

Right off to bed! Head is pounding!

Reebok Sat 02-Feb-13 21:42:00

Ps good luck for scan flobot x

fl0b0t Sat 02-Feb-13 21:50:30

Thanks! It's weird things that set us off eh? I might have a sneaky look fit cyclezine in my local chemist tomorrow if I have the energy to leave the house smile

CrikeeThree Sun 03-Feb-13 07:47:56

Hi everyone.
I'm hiding in bed.
I took my Buccastem this morning and am trying to remain horizontal as long as possible, as I always throw up as soon as I start to move around.

My wonderful DH bakes all our bread fresh (by hand!) and I can smell it baking downstairs.... but it's just making me feel sick!! blush
And he's boiled eggs for the kids. I can hear him giving them to them.
Just the thought of it is making me feel awful.
I feel so guilty.... sad

On the plus side, the tablets seem to work better as the day goes on. So I seem to puke still every morningn, and feel nauseous all day. But I can eat small bits, and by the evening, I can eat a "normal" meal.

I feel really guilty for taking the medication, and really hope it's not doing anything awful, but I have no choice really. It's that or just throw up all day, and reading all the stories here, I can see that's no good either...

They make me very tired though. Asleep by 8pm last night!!

CrikeeThree Sun 03-Feb-13 07:49:33

On the "explaining it" thing:
Becuase this is my thrid pregnancy, and I haven't been sick with the other two (both boys), I'll be intrigued to see if it's a girl.... but I have no opinion either way, otherwise.
I want a healthy baby, boy or girl.

But the scientist in me wants to "explain" why this pregnancy is so different to the last ones....

Argh this HG lark is exhausting isn't it. I'm feeling woeful as haven't kept anything down since I left hospital, including water. Might try ice cubes - anyone had success with that?

14 + 5 and still lighter than when I became pregnant. Was only an 8/10 to start with so I don't really have a lot more that I can safely lose. I'm very very stressed as the moment as my marriage is breaking down, and I think that is contributing to the sickness, so plan is to call the midwives tomorrow for a chat to see if they have any advice.

Lotta1234 Sun 03-Feb-13 14:33:10

wavesandsmiles HG is terribly isolating and puts a huge toll on a marriage. is there a friend or neighbour you can ask to pop round a couple of times a week? my neighbour is doing this for me at the moment and it's a lifesaver. she brought me some toast and water the other day. last time, i didn't have anyone as was keeping pregnancy quiet due to mmc before. stress definitely makes HG worse.

CrikeeThree Sun 03-Feb-13 14:45:51

REally sorry waves
I know, even with my rather mild case, it does put a strain on things.
I have wanted to slap DH twice this week:
once when I asked him what he wanted for his birthday, and he said "A cheerful Crikee"

And this morning, when I was getting upset because I knew I was going to be sick, and he told me to "....try not to get upset about it and just get on with it...."

Can you really wait til tomorrow to talk to someone?
Sounds like you should be talking to someone today if you're still not keeping stuff down.
You poor thing...

BabyHMummy Sun 03-Feb-13 16:14:55

wish i had found this forum a few weeks ago!! My hyperemesis was awful and none of the 'remedies' that helpful friends and family members felt the need to impart were any use. Thankfully i have a brilliant GP who has rotated me on a series of different anti-sickness pills until one clicked - am 13 weeks today and hoping that the worst is over...still queasy but at least i can go more than 20 mins without praying to the ceramic deity in the bathroom!

at 10 weeks i was ready to through the towel in as i was so ill, i couldn't take a breath without being sick, wasn't sleeping, stomach muscles so sore i thought i was dying...

am finally feeling exctied about being pregnant which i was worried i never would feel during the worst of it!

LucindaE Sun 03-Feb-13 16:20:41

Just dashing on to say, "Waves* Your poor poor thing, those miserable ketones must be up again? I did find ice cubes helpful, and ice lollies, too, and oddly, sips of warm water. I an imagine you are desperate to keep out of hospital only having been discharged, really sorry but if this goes on it looks like you'll have to let doctors know. Gentle cyber pats on offer, as I'm sure you aren't up to pats. It does put a dreadful strain on relationships, OH's don't really understand the agony you are suffering, try as they might. Has he had a look at MOH's website Pregnancy Sickness SOS or the HelpHer one as they do have advice for partners (much needed)? Everyone tends to fall out badly with OH's at some point during this miserable time,unless the OH in question is a paragon (mine wasn't).
Flo Youl could - while denying being pregnant, as they won't give you cyclazine over the counter if you are, though it's been proven safe for about three or four decades - say you've got a lingering stomach bug?
Hope everyone is coping.

fl0b0t Sun 03-Feb-13 17:24:14

waves that sounds awful, sounds like you're going through a lot. I can't imagine how much worse this would all be if my husband weren't so lovely.

I've not left the sofa since dragging myself out of bed about ten am. I've not been sick (hurrah) but have felt my absolute worst all day sad

Can't wait to see the Dr tomorrow

CrikeeThree Sun 03-Feb-13 17:49:18

Keeping fingers crossed for you, fl0b0t , that they come up with something that helps....

BabyHMummy Sun 03-Feb-13 18:30:26

fl0b0t if they haven't tried you on it already they had me on metochlopramide for a bit which helped a little and am now on prochlorperazine which has been like a wonder drug at steming the sickness and sick feeling hth and good luck with your GP

Reebok Sun 03-Feb-13 18:31:12

Waves, I know how you feel. HG has caused a strain on my marriage too. All my OH and me do is argue because he doesn't understand how bad it can make you feel. I really do hope things get better for you. Hugs x

holdon4tomorrow Sun 03-Feb-13 20:56:59

Hey all, welcome to all the newest joiners to our thread smile

Does anyone feel considerably worse late evening? I tend to feel absolutely effing dreadful by 9/10, and my mood just plummets. Even if I've had quite a good day (rare, but they do happen sometimes), it's always by 9/10 that I feel awful. And I can never sleep til about 4/5 am sad

I've become absolutely addicted to One Born Every Minute on 4, so been watching all the last few series on Catch Up in bed whilst OH is asleep to cheer me up, til the vv early hours. It's the only thing that reminds me that I am pregnant and that however ill I feel, I'll get something beautiful at the end of it. Right now, I don't feel pregnant, I just feel so miserable and ill.

13+2 weeks atm. 186 days to go...

Sorry not to respond to others atm, will do that tomorrow when I'm hopefully a bit more alert....

Hugs to all xx

Lotta1234 Mon 04-Feb-13 08:27:43

Have any of you tried stemetil and found it worked? I'm on promethazine at the moment and it helps but i have thrown up on it once. Doctor has suggested stemetil - but the side effects scare me.

I haven't been on stemetil. Only dodgy side effects I've had so far was from IV cyclazine which made me feel awful. I'm on buccastem now which isn't touching the nausea or vomiting so trying to sort out another gp appt and then someone to get me there as I don't think I'm safe to drive. Laying flat on my back, not moving and breathing only through my nose is about all that is keeping me from retching.

Someone suggested sniffing grapefruit oil on a tissue. Anyone tried that or even heard of it?

fl0b0t Mon 04-Feb-13 11:51:24

waves I am also rocking the "lying still, eyes closed in silence" til My Dr appt later......

fl0b0t Mon 04-Feb-13 13:48:05

Oh god, today sucks. Stayed in bed until 1. Then got up and by the time I was halfway inside my jumper I was retching and got all stuck and flustered and running around the house with a jumper on my head retching loudly. Class act.

Lotta - I'm taking stemetil or whatever you call it. It seems pretty good, doesn't completely stop me from being sick but makes it a good bit more manageable

In saying that I've been up since 5 this morning and I'm currently slowly dying in the office, would love to be at home in my bed!!

BelleEtLaBaby Mon 04-Feb-13 14:24:57

Oh, Flo. Bless you.

I'm another fan of lying down, totally still, all the bloody time. Thought I felt better enough to go and make some porridge (today's craving) but I only got halfway and to the bathroom, where I was sick for ten mins and lost the breakfast I thought I was keeping down. Boo.

I'm so bored I've started entering competitions. I figure if I enter enough things, I may even win something!

waves I have heard of similar things - lemon oil and the suchlike. I think it comes from the heightened sense of smell and scent triggers making you sick; clean smells like lemon or grapefruit are possibly a bit less offensive and so might block the offensive smells? DH is the stingiest thing to me at the moment, bless him. I can't face towards him in bed at all, can barely hug him. He stinks! This happened last time too. He's used to it smile

Hope all coping ok today. One more day done.

CrikeeThree Mon 04-Feb-13 14:28:11

What a great idea, Belle ! I, too, am beginning to go out of my head with boredem.
I'm also cowering in bed, and have been since late morning.
I really need to get up and take next tablet. I'm also a bit hungry for plain pasta... so feel I ought to just grab the bull by the horns and go for it, if I actually want something.

But, in my head, getting up means risking puking... so I find it easier to lie here...

fl0b0t Mon 04-Feb-13 15:26:37

crikee that is exctly how I felt, and I was proved right! Staying in bed seems so easy.

belle I cant admit to my dh that to me he stinks! All the time!

Dr appt went well. She was impressed by my knowledge and that is checked my keetose, and I'be just picked up the promethazine hydrochloride

Lotta1234 Mon 04-Feb-13 16:08:43

Littlemiss that's good to hear. if mine doesn't work again i'll move on to it.

flobot that's what i'm on and i'd say today it's actually kicked in after i've rested a lot for several days. let me know how you get on with it.

What is it with HG and needing not to move at all? I feel so lazy but it really does stop me from throwing up. And although I say I feel lazy I also just cannot envisage getting anything done at the moment as trying to do anything just worsens the nausea.

LucindaE Mon 04-Feb-13 17:32:38

Sorry everyone, floored by one of those stupid migaines, I'll catch u tommorow, I'm glad to see Waves is still out of hospital as yet, it's so dmeoralising when you come out only to be in again within days, as happened about three times to Kalidasa on the last thread.
I saw mentions of porridge and pasta - I had terrible experiences of both on the way up again - I hit the wardrobe with the returning pasta bake, and even after I'd cleaned it OH wanted to know what those red marks were high up - but yuk, maybe it depends how long you cook the stuff?
I so agree about stinking OH's. I held a lavender satchet thing to my nose, back turned, and a vouminous nightie on in case he didn't get the general idea...
Hope everyone has low ketones, says mother hen.

I'm still lying down, and planning to make a gp appt tomorrow. Mum popped round before and reminded me that i was sick right through both my previous pregnancies, worse with DD. Amazing what a 7 year gap (and possible amnesia) can do for forgetting the traumas of the past.

I've had a couple of friends round today, one took my dog for a walk and the other did the dishes and made me some toast. I'm convinced that however sick I am, at least if I manage to eat a little my body will find a way to hold on to something!

No plans to move from this position. The DCs will have to come and say goodnight to me in bed tonight instead of the other way round...

Came home from work & puked my face off for hours last night, charming i know! Still feeling wretched this morning so going to have to stay off from work today. Fed up! 1 step forward and 10 steps back sad 13+4 ... Is this ever going to end?!

kalidasa Tue 05-Feb-13 09:41:38

Just popping in to say hello as I can see that Lucinda has name-checked me! Yes, I repeatedly spent days on a drip in hospital, finally discharged when they'd eventually beaten the ketones down again, only to be readmitted 48-72 hours later. So depressing! But honestly I think they kick you out too fast - it's not enough to have no ketones if you're still on a drip and still not eating. My experience would suggest that they shouldn't discharge you until you've spent at least a day or so in hospital off the drip and eating at least some food without throwing it up; and then they must discharge you with prescriptions for the same level of medication that you were taking in hospital. Otherwise you start throwing up again - if you ever actually stopped - as soon as you get home.

My baby Joseph is nearly 10 weeks old now. Unbelievably I ended up in hospital yet again about four weeks ago - just flu I think but they suspected meningitis and, guess what, I had 3+ ketones so had to be on a drip for a night. Horrible sense of deja vu! though at least I wasn't throwing up. They said it was from breastfeeding all night with a high temperature, I had got very dehydrated although I had been making an effort to drink. Personally I think the seven hours in A&E was mostly to blame!

I have to say that I am still struggling to accept and come to terms with my experience of pregnancy. I feel I have lost confidence with eating a bit, and I am also longing to return to work after being off sick for essentially my entire pregnancy so I am going to go back to work quite a bit earlier than I otherwise would have done.

Good news for you all though is that I was on huge amounts of drugs - max doses of cyclizine, ranitidine, metoclopramide and ondansetron all at the same time for months and starting very early, at five weeks - and the baby is absolutely fine. The only thing I have noticed is that he was born on the 25th centile and has gone charging up the charts, now close to the 75th. Both my mother and the GP think he might have been "meant" to be a bit bigger than he was at birth and is making up for it now. But he is incredibly healthy and very alert.

fl0b0t Tue 05-Feb-13 11:07:30

kalidasa good to hear that you're coming out the other side, sounds like it was a very traumatic time!

BelleEtLaBaby Tue 05-Feb-13 13:45:41

I have to say, the knowledge that it lifts (in my case, at the birth!) is what's keeping me going this time around. I looked at some old photos this morning of the weeks immediately after ds was born. I remember feeling so brilliant! Literally immediately, too, which I thought was weird. Ds was born at 00:26 and I scoffed a huge breakfast down at 8am that morning. I still remember the breakfast trolley coming round, and the heavenly smell - if I could have got out of bed I think I'd have chased her up the corridor. The mum in the bed opposite thought I was hilarious smile

I have been in bed all day today. DH is away and everyone else is out: ds at nursery, dfil is working my job (long story) and dmil is out for the day. I really fancy some scrambled eggs but the only way I'm going to get them is get up and make them, and by the time I've done that I probably won't want them. Come on, Belle, get up. The baby needs to eat!

LucindaE Tue 05-Feb-13 14:23:32

Kalidasa Lovely to hear from you and thanks for message of support! It’s great Joseph is flourishing – does he say Ga-Ga in French as well as English – but sorry to hear that you were back in hospital, and on a drip again, those ketones so love you, let’s hope that is their swan song. I do often mention yours as a very bad case, but I tend to refer to you by the contraction Kali (as in the dread Goddess!).
BabyHMummy A belated welcome, sorry for appearing to ignore you before, I was struck down with the migraines that have been worse ever since Hyperemesis but I don’t want people to think that’s inevitable, I think that was my peculiar misfortune. Thanks for message of support, sorry you didn’t find us before and are still queasy, though, I hope that goes off soon. Prochlorperzine (sp) it’s interesting, I hadn’t heard of that one, MOH will probably know all about it, but it does seem to be helping people on here.
Flo Sorry about jumper fiasco – how foul – glad you can laugh about it. I hope the Pro what’s it helps. Re the lying down, it is so boring and depressing, but the lack of movement seems to be the only thing at a certain stage.
Belle I'm glad it went so quickly with you. Good luck with those competitions! I am horrified at that series of medical complications you got, how brave of you to go for it again.
Lotta I think all the meds have a whole list of possible side effects listed as a legal reqirement which sound terrifying but aren’t very usual, or did the GP specifically mention some? Interestingly, GP’s favourite cyclezine does make people feel very spaced out for a while.
Holden Lol about television choice…
LittleMiss You were back at work, you trooper? How awful, being sick for hours. At least one good day (though yesterday hardly counts) is usually a sign that others are on the way…I’ve often thought that this illness is like a nasty board game with counters, as you say, one step forward, two steps back. But as in my old Snakes and Ladders game, there is the Pink Castle at the end!
Waves Ah, about goodnight kiss. Was it you still only on metroclopramide? Is the GP going to prescribe anything else?
Crikee How are things?
Sorry to anyone I’ve rudely ignored.

LucindaE Tue 05-Feb-13 14:25:00

Belle That 'glad it went so quickly with you' refers to post birth last time, of course!

I've been laying down all day too belle (apart from dashes to the toilet/leaning over the side of the bed to the sick bowl), although off to the GP at 4.20. The receptionist was lovely when I called - I think me being stretchered out of there last week was quite a drama for them blush At least it means they should take everything seriously today.

When I started to remember this happening with DD, I also remembered to my horror that I was still being sick the day AFTER she was born. I wept and wept at the time as I had thought that was that, you know, baby arrives, vomiting stops. At least it was only a day or so til it stopped completely, and probably related to the horrible induction.

It is good to remember that there will be an end to this, and it will be SO worth it

Lucinda - Thanks, you're right, it is definitely one very slow step at a time out of this but at least having the occasional good day or good few hours is better than a couple of weeks ago when it was all bad all the time!

belle / waves - Also been in bed all day, DH dropped DS to childminder, I nipped over to pick him up at 2:15 and now he's napping and i'm back in bed. Feeling weirdly hungry but no food i can imagine eating seems to fit the bill so just watching stupid tv for a while, hoping by this evening the worst of this latest bout will be past!

kalidasa Tue 05-Feb-13 16:00:41

You're right Lucinda - Kalidasa means literally "the servant of [the goddess] Kali". But it's also the name of a famous Sanskrit poet. Obviously I'm not a Sanskrit poet! But that's why I chose the name.

Thinking of everyone suffering. I was still throwing up in labour (all over the floor at one point - had no warning!) but not afterwards, and like belle when the breakfast trolley came round the next morning and the lady asked me what I wanted and listed the options, I said could I have all of them?

Reebok Tue 05-Feb-13 17:28:43

Congrats Kali on the birth of bubba! Glad to hear he is ok and sorry youve been unwell.

Guys I just wanted to give you a bit of hope that things could get better soon. I was 5 weeks when I was hit with HG. Im now 16+2 and no sickness for almost 5 days! I've managed to come off the meds minus ranitidine, am back at work and only suffer from little bouts of nausea when I'm hungry or have tried to eat something that doesn't agree with me. Granted I am on a restricted diet but I'm feeling more like myself most of the day and getting a little energy back! So hopefully HG will subside early for you all too. X

CrikeeThree Tue 05-Feb-13 17:53:18

That's great, Reebok
I was worried about you being back at work, as I can't imagine it right now.
Went to doctor yesterday, and she basically told me not to expect to go back before half term. Sat there sobbing. Don't know if it was guilt or relief (as I had no idea how I'd cope with marking/ planning... let alone teaching!!)

Today started well, in that I didn't throw up as I normally do. I was feeling almost positive, despite the nausea.
But still couldn't face eating.
And as I walked to nursery to pick up DSs, I had to stop to be sick everywhere. Nice!!

Good to be reminded that it stops eventually.... thanks everyone for all the stories and support... and... jsut being here!! smile

LucindaE Tue 05-Feb-13 18:17:25

Crikee Poor you, those Throwing up in the Street episodes are horrible! I'm glad you're still signed off.
Kalidasa A servant of the goddess, that's a great name! The Sanskrit poet I didn't know about at all...
Reebok What did Mother Hen always say, when things were at their worst? Cluck, Cluck, which translates as 'This Too shall Pass'. I'm so delighted that you are feeling as lot better, that's wonderful news, do pamper yourself, though, with as much rest as you can.
I hope everyone is coping.

LucindaE Tue 05-Feb-13 18:21:02

Waves Forgot to say, I hope you weren't stretchered out this time, my goodness, but have they given you something else as those meds weren't doing an exactly brilliant job on the sickness?

Reebok Tue 05-Feb-13 19:22:50

Lol Lucinda! Yes you were right! I can't thank you enough for all of your support without which, I know I couldn't have carried on! I will continue to be on this thread though to give much needed support to those still suffering.

Crikey, how far along are you? Definately don't go back until at least after half term if you are this bad! I waited until I was down to being sick twice a day as it became more manageable (but I was also forced back!) don't get me wrong...it's Definately not easy and there are still points where I wish I was home again but I am coping better now (and hopefully will continue to). Dont go back until YOU are ready...you may not feel ready at any point but don't allow school to make you feel guilty! It's just a job! (yes I went back but I had to for financial reasons unfortunately). Really hope it eases up for you hun very soon.

By the way lucinda, have you heard from room, peppa and nannyl? I do worry about them!

Hi, not such a smiley waves here. Back in hospital and hands and arms super sore as it took several attempts to get the cannula into a vein that didn't collapse!

Midwife listened in to the baby's heartbeat which was so lovely to hear.

Typing on phone left handed as cannula had to go in my right elbow so signing out for now....

CrikeeThree Tue 05-Feb-13 19:57:33

sorry waves you poor thing
Hope it gets better soon.

thanks Reebok
I actually took my sick note in today, and was told to rest as much as needed by the lovely lady in the school office. Also received the most beautiful email from a colleague telling me not to worry and that everyone was thinking of me.
I feel utterly blessed and lucky right now, despite the sickness/ nausea smile

Lotta1234 Tue 05-Feb-13 19:58:12

Waves, you poor thing. big, big hug.

Reebok Tue 05-Feb-13 20:11:26

Aww that's lovely! Glad you have such supportive staff crikey. Everyone is great at work too minus the head...that's where I received pressure from. She doesn't understand HG and thought it was just normal ms! Grr...yes I want to punch her too!

Waves, I'm sorry to hear you're so unwell but you are in the best possible place. Will say a prayer that you are feeling better soon.

racheld33 Tue 05-Feb-13 20:13:21

Hello all,
I am new to your thread (and was hoping i wouldn't need to join!)
I already have DS who is 2.5, for that pregnancy got horrific nausea/vomiting at 6 weeks, was hospitalised at 7 weeks and then on cyclizine (which limited the vommiting to 1-2 a day, even though I still had full time nausea till 24 weeks)
I am 6 weeks pregnant today and last night the dreaded sickness kicked in, up every hour on the hour vomitting (just like last time!!!). On cyclizine today (my lovely GP very sympathetic and happy to prescribe ASAP), but today have have horrific heartburn to add to the constant nausea plus my toddler to look after all day long.
My main question is about the heartburn, I didn't have this last time, and combined with the nausea, it's made me feel so miserable today. Has anyone else had heartburn so early with the hyperemesis? And if so has the GP given you anything to help this?
Also anyone got any advice on what to do with a toddler for the next 18 weeks?!?!?!?
Thanks xxxx

CrikeeThree Tue 05-Feb-13 20:22:05

Oh dear, rachel
I know how hard it is when you have toddlers to look after.
I will be in the same boat as you next week. Until then, my brilliant mother in law is staying.
Are there any friends you can confide in? I sometimes camp out at friends' houses for the morning/ afternoon, and that helps.
Any family that can come and stay?
Any toddler groups you can go to? (they helped my survive my haze of sleep deprivation in the early days of DS2, as DS1 was only 20 months old at the time... but I wasn't ill... jsut sleep deprived!)
Sorry. Not a lot of use am I?

Reebok Tue 05-Feb-13 20:28:56

Rachel, firstly welcome. I'm so sorry you have to join this thread but am sure it will help you through the tough days. I've had very horrible heartburn and acid reflux since the beginning and still suffer from ur despite the decline in HG. My doctor put me on ranitidine. It didn't work at first but is doing a slightly better job now. Apparently there is a better drug but my gp won't prescribe it as he is very anti meds during pregnancy. Hopefully you will have better luck.

You could also try tums, rennie spearmint or gaviscon. None of those worked on me and only made me feel sicker. If you can handle dairy (unlike me), try milk? Hope this has helped.

racheld33 Tue 05-Feb-13 20:46:59

Thanks crikee and reebok,
My mum is my only confident at the moment (not really got local friends who aren't at work in the week), so today I wanted to see how I got on alone, as she already helps with childcare for my 2 days at work at week, will try and find a group for us to go tomorrow morning!
Already been swigging gavison all day today, which doesn't seem to have made any improvement, not a milk fan with the nausea, so think will try the ranitadine.
Thanks for your advice xxxx

Thanks reebok! Even tho i know i did start to feel a bit more human after 14 weeks with DS im 13+5 now and still feeling like i've been run over by a truck so i can feel myself losing patience and hope!! I knew to expect hg but i think i'd forgotten just how bad it can be or i'd not really factored in coping with hg alongside toddler&work responsibilities but im learning the hard way i guess lol

Managed to give DS dinner&get him ready for bed by myself last night&going to attempt work, even for a few hours, today. Prob end up up bloody bed ridden again 2moro but got to keep trying!!

fl0b0t Wed 06-Feb-13 09:58:00

reebok great news- so pleased that you're feeling a bit brighter! Must be lovely!

waves sorry to hear you're in hospital, I hope they pump you full of lots of good things and perk you right up again.

Welcome rachel

I'm yet to find my drugs to have any effect and I'm trying to be patient at the moment.

It's been a mad couple of days- 2 visitors (FIL monday and my parents tues), we've told all close family and been for a cheeky early scan (I think I might be having a duck rather than a human baby according to scan picture!). I'm fucking exhausted, but glad they all know and can be supportive. SIL had some ms (but did tell me she felt much better going to work than "moping at home" (GRRR!)) but interestingly my mother was hospitalised at 7 weeks with hg and refused drugs or scans! She is badass (and possibly a mad old hippy). She did refuse to tell me exactly how long she was sick for when she had me (eek) but symptom wise seems we've been quite similar, including the thick mucus welling up in my throat which I found hard to explain- she had that too.

I'm sleeping well (drowsy from meds?) but would rather just sleep 24hrs to avoid being awake and feeling terrible!

hi all only 6 weeks preg ... Hg only started a week ago been on cyclazine and metoclopramide. But they arnt doing the job in hospital atm for my second overnighter since the wknd. Due to dehydration ... my gp told me (o try to get a ondensteron (zofran) . But I wondered hhow safe it is and if anyone is taking it ...

Lotta1234 Wed 06-Feb-13 10:24:51

rocky I've heard good things about Zofran. My medicine is definitely stopping the throwing up but not really touching the nausea.

Hi rocky, I'm on ondanestron, in hospital through IV or injection but will be taking the tablets when I leave this time as it seems to be best for me

LucindaE Wed 06-Feb-13 12:49:36

Oh, no Waves I was worried those ketones were going to put you in again. I do hope you are feeling a bit better on the drip, poor you? How dramatic leaving the surgery for hospital again!
RockyRoad Welcome, sorry that you are in hospital atm, lots of women on here have had a cocktail of drugs including maximum doses of Ondansetron and its used routinely in the US, it's quite safe, but it tends not to be used so much because of the expense, I believe. MOHs website I mention above gives lots of details about the safety of drugs for reassurance.
Rachel Welcome, I wish I could think of toddler solution, I honestly don't know how people cope when at their worst and looking after a toddler. I can only agree about toddler groups/playgroups. The good thing is of course, that they soon get over the period of having an out of it mother and having a companion more than makes up for it. I suffered from heartburn throughout, and it is miserable. Even when eating again my diet was really restricted because of it. So agree about the Ranatindine, as I found Gaviscon hopeless and milk only seemed to ease it for minutes sad.
Reebok It is so nice of you to give much appreciated help! It was a pleasure to encourage you. Nannyl is fine, blooming, when last heard of, and the last I heard of Peppa she was doing a lot better, but Room maybe one of us I should pm just in case.
Crikee I'm so glad colleagues are trying to understand!
Littlemiss So agree with Reebok, Don't force yourself to do the impossible. Fingers crossed that you will turn the corner soon.
Lotta Sorry about nausea.
Apologies to anyone rudely ignored.

BelleEtLaBaby Wed 06-Feb-13 13:04:39

Hi all. Need a vent. My sense of humour has deserted me entirely and I'm so down today.

I feel like I can't complain, this is a very much wanted, planned and tried for baby. But my life has just imploded since hg again and I'm really feeling quite depressed. I'm not at work, and I've got a little (tiny) sideline business which has also ground to a halt- I make dresses, largely for friends/acquaintances. Ive got seven dresses (bridesmaids) for close friends due in may and i am terrified that im getting so behind. I can barely get out of bed or play with ds. We are about to move house any day now and I can't help. I'm just feeling very low and sorry for myself.

Dh is tired from looking after me and ds, I can barely cuddle him and I miss him. I loved the ttc bit but now I can't even face him in bed. I feel so... Lost.

Oh, someone cheer me up please? I've just been in bed crying all day and I'm really struggling.

LucindaE Wed 06-Feb-13 14:27:31

Belle Hugs! Poor you. I so admire you being able to sew enough to do it professionally, but that's by the by...It is such a strain on the whole family, it's terribly depressing, and I didn't even want OH too near because I thought he stank of roast pork(I should've put an apple in his mouth). You were doing wonderfully for humour a few days ago, but this does get to you, it's so isolating. Trying to think of something to raise a smile - I'm sure the joke about the two peanuts walking up the road - one was assaulted won't - did I tell you about how I projectile vomited on the wardrobe once (pasta bake) so that there were yuk - red bits of tomato still high up after I'd cleared up, and OH naively asked me 'What's that? It looks like paint'...Things will almost certainly get a lot better in the not too distant future. What meds have they got you on at the moment, did you say metraclopramide was one?

Hugs for you from me too belle although not too hard on my part or the drip machine will start beeping saying check line occlusion downstream. Don't tell a soul, but I figured out how to get it working again by myself....naughty waves playing with hospital equipment blush

To be fair I hate being a bother so would rather do this than have to be calling the staff.

fl0b0t Wed 06-Feb-13 15:05:08

belle poor you honey sad

I think it's key to NOT WORRY. I know that sounds ridiculous and very hard to stick by, but since my doctor "validated" my sickness and told me that feeling guilty and worrying would only make me feel worse, I have felt a bit more relaxed.

I know that doesn't necessarily help, but I think being honest and upfront with your friends (how far along are you) about the dresses will help because they will be sympathetic. Also, if you are sewing professionally- you are no doubt amazing at it, and May is a long time away. :-)

My husband is also looking after everything at home (though no other children for him to look after, just a high maintenance cat!) and I won't barely let him touch me. Them boys just gotta take some shit, seeing as you're the one carrying that cute little baby-to-be and feeling rubbish. We need a forum for our husbands and partners!! I think I even told my husband that he was welcome to service himself as I sure as hell wouldn't be! ;-)

LucindaE Wed 06-Feb-13 16:07:20

Waves I hope you feel a bit better? What were those wretched ketones?
Belle Another ridiculous thing was when I was sick on my own shoes, and some went inside...

Belle - I know, I know, and all I can say is it really does suck! Like yours, mine is a very much wanted and planned for baby and I've already been through HG so I knew what to expect but that doesn't stop me feeling so down some days and really wondering how I'm going to cope if the symptoms don't alleviate for rest of pg. I'm struggling to make it into work and I work in such a tiny organisation that I hate taking the time off, struggling to properly look after DS aside from just putting CBeebies on - no fun trips to the park or going swimming or even to the shops. Misery!!!

We'll get through it all, though. Even though it feels very long and slow. A baby is an amazing addition to your family for a whole lifetime and HG is just an absolute bugger for a few months. Hang in there xx thanks

flobot - congrats on telling the family smile and interesting to hear about your mum! My mum had nothing like that so god knows where on earth i've got it from lol Like your DH mine is being kept at arms length - didn't want to risk dtd during first 12 weeks cos of mc and then erpc which can weaken your cervix so we both just felt it was a bit risky and then the HG has just put me off the whole idea of dtd so until it starts to lift a bit DH can have a lot of cold showers!!!

BelleEtLaBaby Thu 07-Feb-13 08:13:12

Hiya <limply waves>

You are all luffly, thank you. Crap day yesterday. And today I've run out of meds and have started bringing up the good old Mystery Bitter Yellow Stuff.

Mil went to get my cyclizine yesterday and boots had run out so they've ordered it in this morning. She'll be back at 12 so until then I'm clinging onto the bed for dear life and trying to eat a turkey sandwich so at least I've got something in my tummy to bring up! I HATE the Mystery Bitter Yellow Stuff. I'd much rather bring up food!

How's everyone feeling today? Xx

Belle - When I was a student and liked to drink err more than a few shandies I used to copiously throw up the mystery yellow stuff confused Then I got pg and got hg and was like...hello yucky stuff, my old friend. Bah! It's horrible! Can't believe Boots didn't have your meds - don't they understand how many women are only hanging onto their sanity and stomach lining by their finger tips and really need these tablets to go on. STOCKPILE OUR DRUGS!!