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Last week or two of pregnancy

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squidkid Sun 16-Sep-12 13:44:27

Just a place for advice/suggestions or a place to chat for those of us in the last couple weeks of pregnancy. I am on a brilliant antenatal thread but my due date is the first there and I don't want to bore them all with nonsense about braxton hicks and how to fill my days when lots of them are still at work... and I think they would prefer their babies to stay inside for now! I'm not quite at the "get it out of me" stage yet... but I'm definitely at the "if you came now you'd be very welcome" stage.... smile

I am 38+5 today and this is first baby. I know most first babies come late, so I've been trying to tell myself I'll be late throughout the pregnancy, but now I'm term it's hard not to be excited. In the last three or four days I've had long periods of continuous mild period-like pain, and some painful tightenings (sometimes very close together, but then they stop). Are these imminent signs, do these mean nothing... I don't really know. I haven't had a show.

Baby has been engaged since 34 weeks (uncomfortable!) I'm pretty sure his/her back is on the left side at the front (all the kicks are upper right hand side) which I think is ideal. I'm a little obsessive about keeping baby in a good position - I spend time on all fours, make sure I get plenty of walking/standing, sit on a gym ball when I'm on the computer, sleep on my side, I don't lie back on the sofa. I'm probably overthinking this.

I am doing pretty ok for late pregnancy - still walking at least a few miles a day, or swimming, or walking into town every day. I actually did a charity night hike last night! (Boyfriend carried maternity notes in his backpack through the woods - it was a bit stupid really!) I am slow, but I thought I'd be a lot heavier and more immobile by this stage to be honest. I stopped work a while back - a very busy, stressful, physically and emotionally demanding job - so I've had a lot of time to relax, nest, exercise, see almost all my friends, sort my flat out. Everything is neat and sorted and stocked and ready.

I'm grateful that I've had a troublefree pregnancy and hoping the birth will go fine too. Feeling positive and relaxed about it, just impatient!

How are other people doing? Staying busy, getting anxious, waiting, over-analysing every tiny sign!? Any suggestions for good things to do in the last week or two? Please no one tell me to 'get lots of sleep' as this is the one thing I am completely incapable of at the moment - up every 30-60 mins through the night...

dickiedoodah Sun 16-Sep-12 14:20:11

Hi Squidkid

I'm due 25 September with first baby. I'm trying to encourage the baby to arrive a few days early by walking everyday and using my birthing ball when ever I can. When I saw my doula yesterday she said that crawling around on your hands and knees is supposed to be a good way to encourage things along! So this week I'm planning to scrub the kitchen floor and will practice some labour positions.

Over the last couple of days I've had mild period type pains and felt a bit yukky. Today I feel pretty much back to normal which is so annoying! I'm trying to prepare myself for my due date to come and go but feel like I'm ready, excited to meet the baby and to take on the challenge of giving birth! This will probably all subside once I realise how painful labour is!

squidkid Sun 16-Sep-12 14:25:12

Hey dickiedoodah! I am due 25 September as well, how exciting! I'm doing the walking + gym ball + hands and knees things as well. I can't wait to be able to move normally again though... I'm so slow and awkward!

I know several people who have found labour perfectly manageable, so I try and think about them rather than worry about pain - possibly a naive approach, but I'm sticking with it for now. I think stress / fear slows down labour too.

Mikyahrose Sun 16-Sep-12 14:30:46

Hey there!

I'm 39+5 today, i dont think anything is happening just yet. Had a bit of sexy time earlier though so maybe that'll bring it on? Thought i might also sit on the ball for a bit later too.
I'm still quite comfortable and managing to sleep ok, so not in a massive rush to get him out.
The pregnancy has been a doodle (sorry to those that havent had it so easy) I did give up work at 12 weeks though, so that may have helped. We relocated in April and i wasnt able to find work. I've managed quite well, and definitly got right into the lady of leisure lifestyle - lounging in bed all morning, pottering around the house in the afternoon. The time surprisingly has flown past.
I havent been too bothered about doing anything to make sure labour goes smoothly. Oh, apart from drinking Raspberry leaf tea when i remember. He's been head down since about 32 weeks and was 3/5's engaged at the 36 & 38 week appointment. I dont think he's fully dropped yet, my bump still looks pretty high up. I seem to have a very long bump - it dosent stick out much, but starts right under my boobs, a very different shape to other mums to be i see around. (i've posted a pic of me today, if you fancy a nosey).
I am still getting out and about, walking and swimming and planning to carry on next week too. My BF is going to carry on working till he gets 'the call'. So its all just a waiting game now.

squidkid Sun 16-Sep-12 14:47:19

Hey Mikyahrose - nice to hear from other people who are still out and about and active. People I meet out seem completely shocked I would leave the house near to my due date. You sound very comfortable.

I wouldn't say I found pregnancy a doddle, though I think I was luckier than some. I found work the hardest thing, but have been off since 33 weeks now. I probably substituted labour-prep for work just because it was so much of an adjustment, I'm rubbish at relaxing! I'll try not to be too jealous of the lady of leisure thing grin

I can only see your bump in the bath! It does look lovely though! There are some pics of me under my profile too - I've been quite low for a while now, I think. It certainly feels like baby is almost falling out of my pelvis when I walk for any amount of time, quite painful sometimes.

My boyfriend is also working until I call him - am very lucky though in that he works a few minutes from our flat.

milk Sun 16-Sep-12 15:36:50

Can I join even if I'm 37+6?

I have 2 weeks to go, and it honestly cannot go fast enough! smile

dickiedoodah Sun 16-Sep-12 15:45:46

I'm trying to stay positive about labour. At this stage giving birth is all I can focus on but am trying to take on board only good birth stories. I've heard some horror tales but also from women who have stayed in control of the contractions and had good births. My plan is to exhaust every natural pain option before I turn to anything involving a large needle in my back. Personally I find the thought of an epidural more scary but as I've never experienced contractions it's difficult to know how I'm going to cope. Currently reading Ina May's Guide to Childbirth. Having just moved to Texas from the UK I'm obsessed with reading about the US way of having babies.

Mikyahrose Sun 16-Sep-12 16:01:20

Right, picture now uploaded - had to have a fiddle with it, did a bit of cropping and rotating.
My due date is the 18th - only next Tuesday! Eeeek. I think i'm happy with him staying in there as i'm more worried at the thought of having an actual baby to look after. As excited as i am about becoming a mummy it really does scare the poop out of me.
I have felt like the bump is heavier the last few days and i'm definitely a lot slower at getting up and moving about, but still managing. smile

Orenishii Sun 16-Sep-12 17:03:17

squidkidd I remember you from that weird thread right at the beginning of our pregnancies - the woman who was bitching on Facebook! God that seems so long ago now - I can't even remember what username I had but she was perturbed that we'd want to continue with our "extreme" exercise (I have an open water swim planned) wink Hope your pregnancy has been all good!

Can I join in, even though I'd 36 weeks (tomorrow!). Also doing the all fours + walking + yoga ball. I'm working from home until 12 days before due date in mid-October so I do a half hour of pregnancy yoga each lunchtime.

Getting apprehensive about labour sad I've been doing hypnobirthing, have a home birth planned, the pool has arrived, have had the carpets cleaned, new curtains put up, and had a mad phase of literally smashing things to pieces because everything felt so cluttered and chaotic.

A woman is coming round for a private three hour session of hypnobirthing next week because I'm prone to getting anxious...and I'm getting anxious! Also have the home birth talk with the community midwives next week, and a weekend thing called Babies Know...

Mikyahrose I'm with you, the thought of an epidural is so much worse than contractions. We should share our sources of good births! I've been watching some videos of good home births but the wait is like torture - I just want to be in it, dealing with it already! My fear is about the last bit, about crowning and tearing sad But have been assured by many women on here and offline that you hardly notice that bit - so maybe I'm just being naive about contractions?

Squidkid I get the walking-with-legs-closed feeling the baby is going to fall out too! Is that a good thing?

Orenishii Sun 16-Sep-12 17:07:53

Sorry! The bit about the epidural was to dickiedoodah blush

Forgot to say I've been on the Raspberry Leaf tea for two weeks now, and been getting mild waves of period pains. I like to think it's my uterus limbering up!

funchum8am Sun 16-Sep-12 21:46:45

Hi, I'm very similar to you squidkid, feeling fairly good and staying reasonably active. I am 39+3 and finished work a week ago but had six week holidays off and just went back for one week (am a teacher) so really have had a nice long break. I too am hoping for a straightforward non-medicalised birth at the local midwife-led unit but will go along with intervention if I have to I suppose! I have been preparing with a hypnobirthing book and cd but haven't listened to the cd as much as I should have!

Am feeling LESS prepared for being a parent than I was 3 weeks ago, perhaps because everything is bought and in place so I am not spending my time comparing nappies and cot bedding any more! Anyone else feeling like that?

Heartbeep Sun 16-Sep-12 23:33:04

Hi I'm 37+4.

ELCS booked for 25th sept. this will be DC2.

I'm still pretty active, have a 3yo to run after/dance with/give horsey rides too etc so not much lounging around to be had.

We got the pram out of the attic today to get covers etc washed, bit scary as its just over a week away!

Packed my bag today, planning to paint the hall tomorrow much to DHs annoyance but it needs freshening up & I need something to do during nursery time. I promised I'd take it easy.

I've had a few episodes of period type pain this week but they don't last long. Don't think baby has engaged yet but it is definitely head down, which is largely irrelevant now as I'm having a CS but does mean I'm probably not as uncomfortable as some. Heartburn & insomnia are my two main gripes at the moment which isn't bad really.

Good luck to all over the next few weeks.

Orenishii Mon 17-Sep-12 07:32:45

I have to tell someone this because it was horrendous! I woke up 20 minutes ago with the most horrific back pain, confined more to the right, but in my lower back. I was sleeping on my left side and with right leg slung over a pillow - but it was painful enough to wake me up and make me feel that kind nausea that only pain can bring on! OMG it was awful!

I've had a few issues with the sciatic nerve on that side, and needed regular intense stretching and massaging sessions from DH - he's a personal trainer and knows how to get those trigger points (the agony!) - but this was horrendous. The bed is already quickly becoming a place of uncomfortableness and sleeplessness sad

I've walked around a bit and it's eased up but this gradually increasing general uncomfortableness is doing my head in a bit. I genuinely think I will prefer the sleeplessness from a newborn, and looking so forward to curling up in bed for a few hours, than this new stage of dreading going to bed because it's not comfortable, I can't turn without it being a major act of movement, and am generally now only sleeping 5 hours or so a night. BOO!

(Sorry for the moan - I literally am just so fed up right at this second!)

Mikyahrose Mon 17-Sep-12 08:24:04

Oh i hear ya! I managed to go to sleep ok, but woke up about 2am for a good hour or so - i probably didnt help myself as i got my phone out and started playing and reading stuff. Then when i finally dropped back off it was a pretty broken sleep. Boo!

PollyIndia Mon 17-Sep-12 09:21:38

Hello! I am 38+4. I can't believe I am nearly at the finish line! Also convinced I am going to be late though have definitely started to feel a bit different in the last few days. Same as you squid kid, just period pains and backache. I can't complain though as I have loved pregnancy and not found it hard. Like some of you, I.ve been really active and think that has helped a lot.

Am still walking and doing preg yoga and going to the gym a few times a week. I went to a party on sat and stayed there until 11 which I was pleased about but felt pretty tired since! I am also still working but I work at home, though I d have about 4 meetings in central London this week so baby has to stay out for a week more. I am pretty sure he/she will.

Baby was head down from about 28 weeks then had a fall and he/she moved transverse. So I had to see consultant last week and luckily the head had gone down but. Have to go back again today to double check as am hoping for a homebirth.

Like mikyahrose and orenishii, I dread the thought of an epidural, but what will be, will be. Labour is one thing we have zero control over!

Dickiedoodah I loved Ina may's book! I may reread it as I get closer. Also been doing hypnobirthing, having rlt, taking (and now inserting, ahem) evening primrose oil, bouncing on ball etc etc. Trying everything I can to bring it on naturally - apart from sex unfortunately.

Orenishii, that sounds awful, you poor thing. I think the other key to feeling ok in late pregnancy is sleep. There are some yoga exercises that can help with sciatica, though sure your oh knows about them.

Anyway, time for porridge, shower and conference call with my boss. Hope you all have a good day.

paperclips Mon 17-Sep-12 13:16:26

Hi everyone.

Had to join in with this thread as so many of you have described how I feel. 39+5 today. I've had a lovely easy pregnancy, I was camping at 33 weeks- people thought I was mad- but it was fun. I've not been as active as some of you guys- ashamed of myself because I was really fit this time last year. Trying to go for short walks daily to keep myself sane but bump aches and top of my legs ache and tired etc.

I finished work at about 33 weeks because I do a physically draining job and I had loads of annual leave to use up. I was really looking forward to being off work with nothing to do.... Everyone (rightly) says "enjoy it because you'll never have this time with no responsibilities again" But after a month having nothing to do is boring! I've started baking cakes and I love it but having to give them away because me and DH have already got too fat! He's been eating for two throughout my pregnancy including joining on on my chocolate cravings!

Weeks ago people were like "I bet you're getting really fed up now?" and I was like "No, I love being pregnant!" but the last week or two have been getting tough. I still love looking at my bump in the mirror and feeling all womanly, and the knowledge that there's a little wriggly person inside me, but I'm getting more and more uncomfortable. Not quite at the "get out now!" stage - but only because I'm insisting on thinking positively and not allowing myself to feel like that yet because it could be another 2 weeks.

Loads of braxton hicks type "tightenings" at least one an hour for the last week, getting stronger but not painful. Last 4 or so days had dull period pain type aches, more over the weekend. Last week the head was not engaged and doesn't feel any lower now despite extra walking and sitting on the ball. Woke up with a belly ache last night. Got me wondering until I had a big ol' fart and then felt normal again!

It seems like EVERYONE is popping babies out left right and centre at the moment! Hope it's me soon. I'm ready and want to meet him/her. I'm not scared of labour, or nervous, but I'm a very chilled out person. I bet I will be scared when it starts.

How are you ladies keeping sane?

squidkid Mon 17-Sep-12 13:48:18

Hello all

Wow, there are quite a few of us then!

Milk, of course you can join, though we will all be jealous if you come first!

Dickiedoodah - you're in Texas? Wow, is it very different there? I always imagined americans to take a much more medicalised approach to childbirth. I wouldn't be too scared of epidurals (so easy to say, I know!) - they will give you a bit of anaesthetic first so it shouldn't hurt - and if you're in the middle of labour I doubt it would even register! I'm keen to avoid one if possible because they can slow labours down and make other interventions more likely. However there are situations where I'd definitely consider having one, like if I was being induced.

Orenishi - yes I remember you! My pregnancy has gone fine thanks (and I did do that "extreme" hike at 14 weeks, all 60 miles of it, it was great!) Impressed you're still working, I bowed out at 33 weeks, I was nearly collapsing at work daily, it was tough.
Sounds like you're pretty well prepared - sorry you're feeling anxious. I sometimes wonder if too much overthinking is a bad thing - I'm not watching any videos that's for sure, though I have seen women deliver before. My abiding memory of that is that when it's all over they cry with happiness and it's like it didn't happen. My mantra on labour is - it's only one day. Perhaps two. And you get a baby at the end.
Feeling like the baby's going to drop out probably means you're engaged? Which isn't always essential before labour, but it means things are going in the right direction which is encouraging. Where was your baby the last time you saw your midwife?
I also feel like I'm going to sleep better with a newborn... SO sick of people telling me to enjoy my sleep angry

funchum - I hear you on the suddenly feeling less prepared - I sorted all my stuff out a week or two ago now, and I suddenly remember I only half-packed my hospital bag, or did I actually buy the baby a hat...
Sounds like you're doing really well too (is this the thread for the lucky/active preggo girls!?)

heartbeep - nice to meet you too. I am very keen to have a vaginal delivery, but I must admit, knowing the date your baby is coming is pretty sweet! That's my due date - I'll be all jealous on that day if I haven't delivered by then! Good luck to you too.

polyindia - hey, you sound really well too! I really do think the activity helps, if you can make yourself do it... Rather you than me on the still working, though!
Sounds like we're all trying similar things which is encouraging (was beginning to wonder if I was just a mad hippy doing this labour-prep as most people I know said they spent the end of pregnancy on the sofa eating cake)
Good luck to you too - surely it won't be long! Hope you're taking your notes to work with you!!

paperclips - again, lovely to meet likeminded ladies... my job was physically tough and lots of stress and responsibility and I was supposed to be moving to a new post in August - couldn't face it, stopped then. Am so glad I did! Spent the whole of August having the time of my life, best social life in ages! I have slowed down now though and just the last week really got a bit... yes... bored. And I told EVERYONE I wouldn't be bored! Don't be scared of labour, sounds like you've got a great attitude, what will be will be, being relaxed and calm helps, and if problems arise we can all just be grateful we live in the 21st century. That's how I view it anyway.

So, a mega-hello from me!

Been out for a walk today and bought my nephew his 5th birthday present - can't wait to have a kid of that age myself, such a lovely age. Been on my ball... taken my raspberry leaf tea... about to wash up and make food for later... oh and my big news today is the birthing pool is ready to pick up!! (Im hoping for a home birth too.) So I will pop off and get that when boyfriend is home. Do I need to try it out before labour, do you think? I have a TENS machine too, is that worth trying beforehand?

Orenishii Mon 17-Sep-12 14:47:30

Yay squidkidd - home birth/birth pool/"extreme" exercise kindred spirits grin

MyNameIsSuz Mon 17-Sep-12 15:41:19

Hi! I'm 38+1 and am just winding down at work at the moment - spending the week working at home on reduced hours just finishing stuff off. I've had a splendid pregnancy so far, heartburn has been the worst thing I've had and I've generally felt good throughout, so I'm not too sick of it yet.

That said, I'm starting to feel it now and really glad I don't have to go anywhere I don't want to go! I'm also getting some backache and period pains - I don't really want him to come early, but feel prepared enough if he does. Hospital bag is packed and we have most of the things we need. I did feel the whole way through like I was going to be late, probably because I'd done a few online due date calculators based on my cycle (a little longer than a month) which put me at about a week later than my official due date, though I'm now not so sure.

Is anyone else finding it hard to sleep because it's impossible to turn over without massive effort, so you wake yourself up, but sleeping on one side all night absolutely kills whichever hip you're sleeping on??

paperclips Mon 17-Sep-12 15:58:26

MyNameIsSuz- agree totally about sleeping I can't sleep longer than about 2 hours at a time, I suppose usually you change position without waking up. Now changing position is like turning an oil tanker. I hate sleeping on my side.

I wouldn't worry too much about the difference between the length of your cycle and your official due date, since the baby can't read calendars anyway! I'm totally ready but trying to imagine I've got a couple more weeks (edd is wednesday) so that I'm not quite as annoyed if he/she is late.

dickiedoodah Mon 17-Sep-12 16:51:20

Morning!

Yeah, I would say it's pretty different here. When I first arrived I was pretty naive, hadn't given the actual birth much thought. Assumed I would be able to labour in whatever way I wanted. My original plan was to go it alone at home for as long as possible and once in hospital to get on the G&A. I was told by my doctor in the UK to request to be seen by a midwife when I arrived in the states but quickly realised this wasn't going to happen! Since there are only two midwives available and they are on the wards at very specific times during the week I don't really stand much chance of getting one of them. The hospital I'll be at is a teaching facility so you're seen by students and apparently an actual doctor makes an appearance at the end to catch the baby!!!

So I had a bit of a freak out about all this at 36 weeks before getting my act together and putting some plans in place to bring my blood pressure down! I wrote a detailed birth plan and hired a doula to coach me on managing my breathing and to support me along the way.

I'm now alot more knowledgeable on the US birthing system. As far as I can see they're working to a deadline to get the baby out. It's not really about listening to your body and doing what comes naturally. I feel like I'm going to be constantly battling with the staff to be allowed to stay on my feet. If I didn't object they would have me on a bed hooked up to a monitor from the start. But I have made my intentions clear and since I've had a low risk pregnancy I don't see why I shouldn't be able to steer clear of the leg stirrups!

I think you're spot on about the epidural. I'm sure there will come a point where if its necessary you go with it. What scares me the most is not being able to achieve what I'm capable of. I think this is why I've focused on staying active, have seen it as training my body for a marathon and don't want to fall at the final hurdle.

Has anyone been feeling a bit sick at this final stage? I have waves of sickness at some points during the day and my appetite is a bit all over the shop. Not sure what this is or if it's normal.

funchum8am Mon 17-Sep-12 17:18:33

We do seem to be a relatively lucky/active/healthly pregnancy lot don't we? It's nice to feel I'm not some kind of macho freak - I am sure some friends who already have kids are thinking I'm lying about feeling well at this late stage!

Having said that I have just had a really annoying MW appt - they have cancelled next week's clinic, at which I was meant to have a sweep. I would be 40+4 then so I thought if I go that far it would be nice to have that to look forward to as potentially DOING SOMETHING about bringing baby into the world, but without it being a huge medical intervention. However now I can't have one til the next clinic on Friday 28th when I will be 41+1. I am not sure why but it has really annoyed me so came home and had a little weep on DH, which is completely out of character.

However I have also been booked in for induction on 2nd October (40+12) - the MW said that even if I don't want to be induced it's best to get the appointment so that if I change my mind I can go for it! I can always go on the day, discuss my options and opt for expectant management with daily monitoring instead. So looks like things are all mapped out and all I can do now is keep active (possibly in the bedroom area as well as by walking etc...), eat right, drink my raspberry leaf tea and hope for a nice natural labour to start asap.

Hope you're all feeling as good as before and the NHS isn't annoying you!

lisbethsopposite Mon 17-Sep-12 18:00:24

Hi girls - can I join?
I am on the same thread as Squid - due in October. I think you started that one first day Milk. It has been lots of fun and support.

I am 37 +3 (due Oct 5th) with no 2. I will be 2 weeks to DD on Fri.

I was induced at 39 +3 (I think) after waters broke with #1. I felt awful last week, heartburn and nausea, and was thinking of begging hospital to DO SOMETHING, but quite good in last few days so calmed down.

My worst symptom is a combination of heartburn/nausea

PollyIndia Mon 17-Sep-12 18:47:06

Dickiedoodah, I did the london marathon last year and I've felt that this is quite similar! Actually as I get to the final hurdle, i feel that less but certainly earlier, it felt similar in terms of preppng and staying fit. I am definitely in the same boat re appetite and nausea. I never had morning sickness but Ive had nausea on and off for the last few days and I've not had much of an appetite, which is totally unlike me. Oh, other than for chocolate which I can eat at any time! The doctor at my appointment today said I was contracting quite a bit - BH I presume - so must be to do with that as also had backache and bad period pains.

Mynameissuz, I had been sleeping fine (other than waking up every 2 hours), but last night, that is exactly how I felt. That my hip was getting crushed, but I didn't want to turn over as am scared of baby getting out of position.

Paperchips, I feel like I am in the same boat as you - in no way at the get it out stage yet but definitely starting to feel uncomfortable. I got told today my baby's head wasn't engaged though he/she is head down, so that means no slouching on the sofa and lots of birth ball bouncing and walking to try and encourage the head in. Sometimes when I am walking it feels low, I feel it in my bum or even on my cervix, but it's not all the time so maybe its moving in and out?

Funchum8am, this isn't based on anything except my own ideas (and I know nothing!) but I wouldn't be worried if I couldn't have a sweep earlier as unless the baby is ready to come anyway, they just seem to bring on uncomfortable cramps and pre labour but not to actually bring on labour itself. My sister had a sweep and it broke her waters (at 40+4 I think) but nothing started so she had to be induced. My mw said even though she has to offer a sweep at 40 weeks, she doesn't really advise it until 40+7 at the earliest. So frustrating I am sure, but maybe not such a bad thing?

milk Mon 17-Sep-12 19:46:25

Hello, My name is Milk, I'm 38 weeks pregnant... and I want it out!!! angry

funchum8am Mon 17-Sep-12 22:17:45

Thanks pollyindia you make a very good point in that a failed sweep could actually be worse than waiting a few more days, as in your sister's case. I hadn't thought of that! I hope your sister's birth turned out well in the end. Feeling a bit more cheerful now after chatting with friends and DH - have arranged things to do tomorrow and weds and Friday so should keep me entertained. Staying in touch with all of you is so helpful smile

Emmiedarling Mon 17-Sep-12 22:37:57

Hello! My c-section is booked for a week tomorrow - 25th. So can I join?!

Feeling very sorry for myself as yesterday morning I woke up with the worst bloody cold ever! Eyes and nose are streaming and I have more aches/pains/tiredness than I did before, if that's even possible!

Sorry for the moan! How are u all spending your last few days?!

mrswoz Mon 17-Sep-12 23:02:36

ohhhh i feel your pain...all of you! we are nearly there now though aren't we, the end is in sight.

Had my pre-op today for ELCS on 24th, didn't know whether to squee with excitement or cry with fear, as this is DC3 I know what's coming hmm, the good and the bad! Trying to treasure it all as this will be our last baby but feel so shit today with tummy troubles, lack of sleep and my ever growing to do list.

in total agreement with the major effort required for moving in bed! Problem is when I do manage to turn over I usually find someone else breathing in my face and have to turn back anyway (DH or DD mainly) the agony lol

i do hope to be in a better mood tomorrow!

PollyIndia Tue 18-Sep-12 03:32:44

Funchum8am it did in the sense that I have beautiful niece who is now 1, but wasn't the best birth. Cascade of intervention I think they call it!

I seem to be quite busy in last few weeks. Got friends coming for lunch tomorrow and for dinner (and was going to go to gym but as I am awake at 330, will have to see), then work meetings all day weds and thurs and out thurs night. Just need to get to Friday and I can relax as the work will be mainly done!

squidkid Tue 18-Sep-12 08:18:54

Morning

I've felt loads better physically the last couple of days - perhaps due to some rest, perhaps that means nothing is ever going to happen, WAIL! Bags of energy and no pains, sleeping a little better. Constipated again, grr.

39 weeks today. Got lots of plans for next few days - out for lunch today, yoga this evening, seeing a friend tomorrow, got a couple of events fri/sat to go to, having friends over sunday, going to a gig sunday night. Got a few things pencilled in for next week too (more friends, a massage.) Surely all this activity means the baby will have to turn up and ruin SOMETHING!? grin

Then next Tuesday I will be 40 weeks, but I'm going to try and wait till 41 weeks to have a sweep, I think. I have also been told they work better later, and I'm keen to avoid intervention as much as possible. If I did go to 42 weeks I'd rather go for monitoring and waiting than induction, I think (unless any problems or advised otherwise). Hopefully 3 more endless weeks of pregnancy won't completely erode my views on this.... confused

I am feeling a bit hopeless like labour will never happen, to tell you the truth. I'm not even due yet - must shake this. Have had some signs, baby is engaged, bump is dropping (I look like I'm getting smaller daily... which is odd.) I'd be unlucky... right?

OK, stop ruminating, go get busy. Love to all and hope to see some babies soon! x

blondiep14 Tue 18-Sep-12 08:24:46

Due today!

I was sick last night and got my hopes up (yet again) that last night was going to be The Night. But no!

Just the usual up every 2 hours to pee. With added agony thrown in by SPD. Went for a little walk yesterday and could barely put my feet on the floor last night. I actually had tears in my eyes!

Feet firmly up from now on. I'm pretty sure this baby's never coming out! Poor DS1 and 2 are so excited about meeting him or her, their little faces every morning are full of disappointment!

Mikyahrose Tue 18-Sep-12 08:56:50

Happy due dates to us both blondiep14.

Nothing happening here for me, gonna go swimming a bit later, then have a wander into town and then got the midwife at 4. Seeing a differnt one today as mines on holiday. Actually quite excited to see someone new. Dont think they'll offer a sweep today. The mw at 38 weeks said it wouldnt be offered till 41 weeks. My bump doesnt look to have dropped at all. Baby was 3/5 engaged at 36 and 38 weeks though, so he is going in the right direction.

blondiep14 Tue 18-Sep-12 09:38:54

Oh have a lovely day. I'm going to put my feet up!

I haven't got a mw appt until next Tuesday, I think they'll offer me a sweep then but don't know if I'll have it.
Only had one attempted one with my first but his head was so far down she couldn't do it.
It was a highly unpleasant experience!

Orenishii Tue 18-Sep-12 09:49:16

Oh due dates galore! Good luck to all of you for the imminent arrivals grin

Can I ask how you're feeling about/approaching avoiding inductions and how far you're comfortable going? Someone on another thread posted a great link to a MW blog going through the myths of waiting up to 42 weeks, deteriorating placentas etc, and it made me a lot more confident about waiting for when my baby decided the time to come

dickiedoodah Tue 18-Sep-12 15:17:51

Morning!

Whoo hoo, 39 weeks today!! Can't believe I only have one week to due date. Pretty crazy! Squidkid, I know what you mean. Feeling totally normal today, made pancakes and dancing round the kitchen! What's up with that?! I am the complete opposite to you. I have no plans besides housework and catching up with family on Skype! May watch an episode or two of Baby Story and read some more positive birth stories. My next hospital appointment is 24 Sep, I'll definitely be apprehensive before the appointment. Will be expecting them to book me in for an induction which I really don't want unless I go to 45 weeks and I've made no progress!!! I had to have a VE at my 38 week appointment due to slightly higher than normal blood pressure so after that sobering experience am reluctant to get anymore. I think I was just unlucky with the doctor and am sure the next one won't be as bad. Here's hoping for a nice slow start to labour so we're holding our babies by due date!!

PollyIndia Tue 18-Sep-12 15:35:14

Orenishii, do you have a link? I'll do a search as well. I am definitely thinking I will opt for monitoring over an induction. But I have heard they put you under lots of pressure so no idea if I will stick to my guns.

In my area they book you in for an induction at 40+10 which seems early to me. I would definitely hold out to 42 weeks assuming all ok.

I am 39 weeks thurs so just behind you dickiedoodah and squidkid.

Good luck to those due today!

Orenishii Tue 18-Sep-12 17:05:41

Will have a search through my history!

Orenishii Tue 18-Sep-12 17:07:56

Here it is - really good blog, non-hysteria, balanced views, really good read:

www.theunnecesarean.com/blog/2009/10/3/postdates-separating-fact-from-fiction.html

I think also a fair few women have posted in Childbirth about their reasons for holding off and how they firmly stood up to invitations to be induced.

PollyIndia Tue 18-Sep-12 17:39:14

Thanks!

PollyIndia Tue 18-Sep-12 17:50:21

That is very interesting, thanks for sharing

Orenishii Tue 18-Sep-12 18:02:53

No problem - I saw it on a thread in Childbirth! I think I was mistaken about her being a MW, that was another blog. But it's definitely interesting reading - postdates start at 42 weeks, not 40!

Mikyahrose Tue 18-Sep-12 20:56:46

Went to see the midwife earlier - he's not even engaged now!!

Been told to do lots of brisk walking, and to get bouncing on the ball.

She also thinks that my original date of the 23rd (based on my lmp) is more likely to be right.

JessTT Wed 19-Sep-12 07:55:36

Hi ladies, may I join you please....I am due tomorrow with my second. Also have had good active prenancy (running after 2yo daughter) and am going for waterbirth at home. Also like some of you am likely to decline induction if poss.....have had very sore tummy on and off since yesterday but not sure if it's the start of something or a bit of a bug! anyone else had similar?
Last time I had no signs at all until the first contraction...this time round have had lots of niggles and period pains over past week.

Lots planned over next few days and at mo am in no hurry for bubba out (declined sweep at midwives yesterday but maybe I'll feel differently in a week!)
Have a good day ladies xxx

paperclips Wed 19-Sep-12 08:48:12

Morning all. Due date at last!

Baby not going anywhere for a while I'm sure. Felt the same all week.
Midwife yesterday told me head still not engaged. Going to do loads of tidying, and a long walk if I have the energy. She has offered a sweep on Tuesday which I will have if I'm still waiting. Lots of Braxton Hicks and dull period type aches but I've had that for a week.

Come on baby, mummy and daddy want to meet you now....

Orenishii Wed 19-Sep-12 09:32:44

Just booked the home birth!

How are you all feeling approaching/meeting your due dates? I still have a few weeks left so still have remnants of feeling apprehensive.

Do you all feel pretty ready now? I have a lot of faith in nature, that we'll be prepared by the time is right but I just keep churning thoughts/wondering how it's going to be round and round. I feel all keyed up like a boxer before a fight! Hoping this nervous energy will turn into impatience rather than thoughts of - holy crap, have to actually do this! Hahaha!

Congratulations to paperclips, JessTT, blondiep14 and anyone else for meeting your due dates - happy due date! Haha, oh god, I'm losing it! Good luck for when it all kicks off grin

Mikyahrose Wed 19-Sep-12 10:11:14

Its a very strange feeling for me. We've spent the last 35 weeks or so counting down to yesterday and now its been and gone and there's no baby yet. I also dont think its really really hit me that i'm having a baby. I think the actual being a mum bit is the most scary. I've loved being pregnant and have a really good pregnancy. Even now i'm still managing ok, moving about fine and sleeping well. I'm not too scared about labour (actually looking forward to it - the becoming of a woman and all that). I have no idea how i'm gonna deal with it though. I cant think of a time when i've been in real pain, so not sure how i'll be. I dont think i'll be a screamer or shouter. i imagine i'll go into a little quiet zone.
Practically i think we're ready, the cots up, the carry cot is in the bedroom, the bags are packed, i have a million muslins. i'm sure we've got everything we need.
I do keep having worries about looking after the baby and how i'm going to know what to do. But i'm thinking motherly instincts will kick in and i'll just know - thats what i'm hoping for. smile

PollyIndia Wed 19-Sep-12 10:12:25

Is it your first Orenishii? Are you doing a waterbirth at home? I am booked in for a homebirth too. I am 39 weeks tomorrow. I don't think I am going to get a pool as I think it sounds like a potential source of stress getting it filled and emptied etc but i don't know if that's the right decision.

I don't feel ready yet I have to say. I've got most of my stuff I suppose, but still need to get homebirth stuff like blankets and sheets, and haven't bought some essential bits like big pants and maternity pads. I've got 2 busy work days today and tomorrow so will think about it friday.

I know what you mean about nervous energy!

Orenishii Wed 19-Sep-12 10:20:34

Yah, first baby. We've bought a pool as that was the only thing I really, really wanted. It has a quick five minute inflate device with a special hose for the bath taps, and quick fill/empty hoses. I'm a bit reluctant to spend big money on myself generally - have never spent hundreds on shoes or whatever - but I was happy to spend £99 on this!

Mikayrose I'm the same, I guess - scared of all that happens afterwards, the enormity of being a parent. I think I'm a little melancholy this morning and very grateful for all you lovely ladies on this thread.

I think it's the apprehension - right? That once you're in the middle of it, and doing it, it's OK - you just get on and deal with it. But this prolonged build up is a blessing and a curse smile

Mikyahrose Wed 19-Sep-12 10:42:50

Its that fear of the unknown. People keep asking me if i've had enough and am i excited.

Well, no, i like being pregnant and i'm far more scared than excited!

I'm gonna be a mum!!!!

I'll nip in and say hello as I see some with the same due date as me - tomorrow. The September thread has moved from antenatal to postnatal and while it's lovely reading about everyone's new babies, it's making me impatient. Have had a fairly active pregnancy too, like a lot it seems, and still walking miles a day (and running after my four yo). Actually feel like I can't sit still. Have to be doing something constantly and my legs paid for it yesterday when they went up like balloons after a mammoth cleaning/ironing session.

Have not had any signs at all of impending baby and I'm getting a bit anxious she won't want to come out and I'll have to go to section, rather than the vbac I have planned.

whenhenshaveteeth Wed 19-Sep-12 12:18:31

Can I join you?

I'm 38+4 and I'm eager for baby to arrive. It's my second and I was induced with my 1st, which is what I want to avoid at all cost.

I've have a few tightenings and BH but nothing that really makes me think he's about to come. MW said he was head down and 1/5 engaged on Monday, although she said the "engagement" didn't mean anything with second babies as they sometimes engaged only at the last minute.

Did 1h swimming this morning and have some work to do today but I'm planning on going swimming again tomorrow and doing the cleaning. I also do yoga, try to sit on my birthing ball as much as possible, plus walking a fair bit and running after 3yr old on his scooter - surely that's make the baby come out?!

Milk - I remember you form the TTC thread! I had a different name back then though.

PollyIndia Wed 19-Sep-12 12:55:01

Mikyahrose I could have written your post! I do have waves of excitement but mainly it just feels surreal and scary and I don't feel ready for it.

Orenishii which birth pool did you get? £99 is fine! I thought it would be more...

PollyIndia Wed 19-Sep-12 12:57:29

And I am still enjoying being pregnant.
Whenhenshaveteeth, I am sure with all that, the baby won't be too late. You have some time before they talk induction don't you?
I am just 2 days in front of you smile

JessTT Wed 19-Sep-12 14:05:56

Ah, am slightly jealous of all you ladies who are on your first as you have it all ahead of you and there is something just soooo special about those first moments of becoming a Mum! :-) I remember those mixed feelings before it happening very well....it all seeming very surreal and to be honest it seems pretty much the same second time (don't think you can ever imagine it happening until it does!) - got to be said though as soon as I felt my first contraction the body/mind just took over - its amazing. I had a pool at home for my first birth and although I did end up getting transferred to hospital after she turned back to back and wasn't arriving after 2 hours of pushing (was fine by the way - definitely a time and a place for being in hospital and managed to discharge myself very quickly after!) I used my pool LOADS in my loooooong labour and found it amazingly relaxing - PollyIndia...didn't find it stressful to fill, keep warm etc.....gives whoever is with you something to do and I didn't think it took too long to sort out (although I was pretty pre-occupied at the time!) - do you know anyone else that has one? I borrowed one and just bought a new liner (£25) x

FjordMor Wed 19-Sep-12 15:54:57

Joining in from the 'weird thread' wink since I just received my induction date today for 1st October. I'm 36+3 today and baby is 'weighing' 8lbs 6oz and I'll be 38+1 on my induction date. Oh, and I have (well) diet-controlled gestational diabetes.

I'm not worried at all about induction (I don't want to try to push out a baby much bigger than this!); I live in Norway and they are very non-interventionist here...you have to both be in danger to get a CS of any kind (apparently they frequently deliver breeches naturally). I'll get to have a mobile labour with water etc. with just some extra monitoring and I won't be pressured quickly to a syntocin drip. Baby has very well developed lungs and has been declared as 'ready' and very healthy. Will be doing everything I can from around a week's time to encourage natural labour however smile. (lots of sex? did someone mention crawling around on all fours?). I feel very much the same way squid does about labour (<hi squid> smile) so I won't re-articulate what she put so well, although I'm older and have had a lot less of an active pregnancy, and this obvious complication. However, I'm hoping an epidural won't be necessary, and am more focused on getting to know my little girl and learning to be a mum. I think the shock of having her in my life all the time is greater than any thoughts about how she might be getting here! This however, could well change... confused.

Interesting to hear how many of you are going over and having home births. 2 things I guess I've more or less known from the beginning wouldn't happen to me. My bump has been heavily 'dropped' for a couple of weeks now and I'm finding walking any distance painful and uncomfortable. Pee on the 1.5hour all night every night and getting used to the sleeplessness...looking forward to imminent news from some of you! smile

PollyIndia Fri 21-Sep-12 07:36:45

JessTT not sure I do... But it does sound good. I am seeing my doula later so will chat to her about it. This last bit is quite surreal, it's true!

Fjordmor, not long for you. Nice to have a date!

Have any of the due babies arrived? Am now 39+1 but I feel less close to giving birth than I did a week ago if anything. Baby's head def not engaged now and I've got my energy levels back again. Weird! I have always expected this baby to be late though, and pretty sure that is what will happen. I have put loads in to keep busy, so seeing friends most days and evenings and will go to gym and yoga. So even if that doesn't encourage him/her to make an appearance, at least I won't be bored!

Hope you are all feeling good smile

JessTT Fri 21-Sep-12 08:09:24

No due date baby here! After feeling fine all week I did wake up in a slight due-date grump.....I've decided I don't like due dates and if I ever have another I won't tell people the exact date as there is a weird feeling of expectation when you get there even though babies very rarely arrive on that date! Feel back to normal today though....still happy pottering on although will be happy if it comes before the induction chat starts happening (although I plan to decline, would prefer not to have to even go there!)
How is everyone else feeling? Hope you are all ok xxx

funchum8am Fri 21-Sep-12 09:25:28

Also having a bit of a post-due date grump here as it was yesterday. I was always sure baby would be late but I wanted to be wrong! Though now I can grump without having to say "even though I am not actually due til 20th..." which is something!

I drove to see friends two hours away for lunch on weds and had a lovely time, and kept busy meeting people yesterday so I can still enjoy myself if I don't sit about at home alone - off to ring everyone I know who isn't at work and suggest lunch....

PollyIndia Fri 21-Sep-12 10:45:18

JessTT even though a doula told me when I was about 15 weeks pregnant and it was said again in the hypnobrthing class to lie about due dates, I've still told everyone the truth so people are already saying isn't the baby here yet?!

It's not bothering me yet but I bet it will be in a week, despite having said to myself and everyone for the whole pregnancy that I think the baby will be late.

I am on a countdown to next thursday too despite the above, so I think like both of you, I'll have some kind of latent expectation that something will happen although I keep saying it could be 3 more weeks.

Defo about keeping busy if you can I think. Though I am revising my earlier post about being full of energy. I was - last few days had work meetings and squeezed in lunches and coffees with friends as was in central London and felt fine, but having got up and walked to the dentist today, I am feeling exhausted. So I spoke too soon!

I'll join jess and funchum on the 40+1 and now overdue club. I meant to spend the day active and up-and-at-em yesterday, instead ds and I munched our way through some dvds cuddled up on the sofa with the duvet over us. Was lovely to spend some chill out time with him alone before the lo makes an appearance.

Not feeling too bad about being overdue, except the texts and facebook messages started yesterday. Am getting a few more twinges, feeling heavier down below the last couple of days so hopefully the midwife will report things are moving on in the right direction today.

I'm also finding the amount of homebirths interesting. From reading my hospital booklet there was only one they dealt with last year! Obviously not the done thing where I am.

Mikyahrose Fri 21-Sep-12 10:57:22

No sign of baby here yet, now 3 days over. Been trying to keep active, bouncing as i type, went swimming yeterday, did 10 lengths then spent the next 30 mins just lying in the pool on my tummy. Hoping that the baby will turn round to the right place and then engage. Gonna go swimming again later too. Got a busy day planned tomorrow, off to DP's work for a family day. DP has also said he really doesnt want him to arrive on Sunday as there is lots of football on and we've planned to go out for a curry that evening too. You know, it'd be typical for him to come then now.

What's everyones thoughts on inductions and why are some people planning on declining them? I havent had this discussion with my mw yet. Not seeing her again till nex wedsnesday, so thinking it'll be discussed and booked in then.

paperclips Fri 21-Sep-12 11:33:25

40+2 here now.

Last night had lots more of period-type acheyness and tightenings, quite regular but not painful, they are getting stronger every day. Nothing bad enough to keep me awake though and slept really well. This morning the same kind of crampy feelings and low bachache. Not even bad enough to bother taking paracetamol although I might have a warm bath now.

Pooing a lot and hoping that it might be my body having a clear-out (or maybe just that I ate a lot yesterday). Was getting hopeful but its probably nothing, been like this the last few days. A week even! Might still feel like this in another 10 days! Baby doesn't feel any lower.

As for inductions, I'm hoping it won't come to that. Midwife will do a sweep on Tuesday (will be 40+6), if that doesn't work, then they'll offer induction for about a week later. And yes I probably will have the induction. I'm not keen on ending up with loads of intervention, but it doesn't always lead to that, and when it comes to it, I don't really want to go over 42 weeks either. Right now I don't feel like I will last that long, or maybe that's just me being optimistic.

I want to go out somewhere and keep active but the weather is crap, I'm trying not to spend money and so I dunno where to go! Nothing I need to buy. Got a few nice things planned for tomorrow with DH, a local farmers market- might look out for some nice pate for afterwards (if baby ever comes out).

Mmmm... some good bread and pate and a cold glass of bubbly.

whenhenshaveteeth Fri 21-Sep-12 12:16:19

That sounds quite promising paperclip!

I'll be 39wks tomorrow and I feel a bit off today. Did 60 lengths at the swimming pool then spent 3h cleaning, not to mention walking 3yr old to and back from nursery... Had a bit of pain on my right side in the pelvic area when I was swimming, which came back in the evening but much stronger and then gravitated to my lower back, so I spent the night clutching a water bottle and I slept well.

This morning the pain is still here and walking is quite difficult. I feel queasy and grumpy and my bump is rock hard. I can't decide if it's the start of something or if I've just pulled a muscle. It's doesn't feel like contractions, just pain and I'm pretty much all baby so my belly is always on the hard side... I popped some paracetamol though as the pain was getting a bit much, I feel better now.

Mikyahrose Fri 21-Sep-12 12:23:51

Mmm, bread, pate and bubbly - sounds lovely. i think i might do the same. :D

Same here on the sweep and induction front. Seeing mw again at 41+1, will have a sweep then. Although i think she'll only do one if she thinks it'll make a difference. ie. if he still hasnt dropped and got engaged i dont think there's much point - or that was my understanding of it. I'm happy for an induction, but as you said paper i'd like as little intervention as possible.

My poo seems to have been less solid than normal the last few days, although i'm not going anymore than normal. No other signs showing, no aches, period type pains or cramps. A few tightenings, but nothing more than normal.

I just went for a walk up and down my road the other day, put the ipod on and got into the music. Maybe you could do that too paper?

JessTT Fri 21-Sep-12 13:37:18

Mmmmm.......pate, bread and bubbly sounds amazing! Followed by rare steak, cheese platter, and some sushi! What a feast :-)

Re. Induction....just would like to give my body a proper chance of starting things naturally and seeing that the amount they let you go overdue differs SO much from place to place (and country and country) I just personally don't feel like the baby would necessarily be ready to come out if I go over the '10 days over' mark - but obviously the safety of bubba is paramount and would would only be happy to go on declining with the relevant checks taking place (think they get to be monitored daily to check placenta is still healthy etc). I haven't had the chat with midwives yet either (apart from my sis who is a midwife which helps alot in the few times I have gone against advice as I have felt fully informed and supported which is important!)

whenhenshaveteeth - wow, sounds like you had a REALLY active day yesterday! I keep doing lots in the day (easier to be out and about with a toddler than in at the mo!) and feeling fine until the evening when I suddenly feel worn out and a bit 'ouchy'. I have had a 'sore' tummy on and off the last few evenings - not obvious contractions and easy enough to ignore and sleep through....I just keep telling myself that the more niggles I have now maybe the shorter the labour will be (I had such a long latent phase last time but no niggles before!) as its just the body getting itself ready!

Feels exciting now that everyone is SOOO close....am sure we'll start getting the birth stories any minute :-) can't wait - Good luck everyone x x x

blondiep14 Fri 21-Sep-12 14:40:50

Sooooo, have been trying to be more observant and keep an eye on the period type cramps I've been having as they seem to be more frequent today.

I think they're about every half an hour lasting 5mins-ish.
I wouldn't go so far as to say they're contractions really and they're in no way agonising - but it's a good sign, isn't it??

Baby still moving.

Please tell me it means something is going on?!

Feel daft as this is #3 so I should know but just woke up to waters going with other two. Nothing about this pregnancy has been the same!

dickiedoodah Fri 21-Sep-12 15:32:18

Am jealous of your cramps blondiep14! This week has gone soooo slowly for me while I wait for due date of 25th to arrive. Stupidly thought I might get lucky with an early arrival but have accepted that I'll go over. As due date gets closer I'm driving myself nutty thinking about names for baby. Does anyone else feel overwhelmed by the responsibility to get the name spot on or is it just me?! My main worry is whatever we have it might be the only one of that sex so would hate not to get it just right!

blondiep14 Fri 21-Sep-12 15:55:06

Well, have been having them for a good week or so doodah so not hopeful they're going to lead to anything today either. But it would be nice!

I didnt really worry with names for DS1 and DS2 as they were named after family members so were always going to be that IYSWIM?
When I brought DS1 home I did keep wondering if it was right tho!

This time is our first time of really 'choosing' and we're still not 100% on a boys name!
We have a list we'll dig out after we've met him (if it's a him) and decide.
We stopped discussing names as were driving ourselves mad!

funchum8am Fri 21-Sep-12 18:42:45

Well no news here at 40+1 though various period pain type episodes, though they are not regular or strong so I am ignoring them for now!

Trying to keep busy but my only friends who don't work all week are from nct and keep having their babies so keep dropping off the list of people free to meet up!

Re induction, I gather from antenatal classes that it leads to higher rates of intervention and can, for some, be a lot more painful. There is apparently no evidence that going over dates is high risk IF you are properly monitored. However I am now so keen to get on with being a mum that I am likely to grab it with both hands when I get to the date I am booked in for!

PollyIndia Fri 21-Sep-12 21:13:02

Dickiedoodah yes! I have gone off all my names. Hoping all becomes clear when I see the baby

whenhenshaveteeth Sat 22-Sep-12 04:50:04

Any news? Blondie, it all sounded promising, any more contractions?

I can sleep, been awake since 3.30am now and can't go back to sleep for no apparent reason.

My stomach is still quite painful now and again but I'm not convinced it's labour related. My bump itself feels sore around my belly button and when I stand it feels like I need to literally hold and support my bump to ease the pain - it's almost as if my skin couldnt support the weight of the baby anymore sad

Right, will try to close my eyes again...

PollyIndia Sat 22-Sep-12 05:25:14

I am awake too whenhenshaveteeth. I've slept brilliantly all pregnancy until the last week - now I wake up by 4 every day. Nervous excitement I think, also baby moving and weird aches and pains.

My tummy is painful too but not labour related. None of us have long to go - you less than me. Good luck with getting back to sleep.

YompingJo Sat 22-Sep-12 08:10:55

Hi,

Hopping onto this bandwagon, 38+1 today and feel like this is never going to end!

Orenishii I remember you too, I was also gaped at back in that thread for wanting to continue running and for missing my adrenaline sports and feeling trapped because of that, lol. Seems like a long time ago.

Have loads booked over next 2 weeks, going with the theory that if I book up loads of social things it's bound to get labour started at an inconvenient moment! The week of my due date is looking very empty though, guess I need to arrange more stuff for then too!

whenhenshaveteeth Sat 22-Sep-12 08:27:23

Morning polly, hope you managed to go back to sleep. I did but then woke up at 7.3am convinced my phone had just beeped and that it was my friend who was in labour and needed me to look after her daughter...

I'm the same as you, slept like a log so far but now wake up around 3.30am every two nights. Must have a nap today, going to be shattered later and really don't fancy going into labour in that state!

Pain still here but no contractions sad
Feels like my belly button is going to rip and I feel like he's suddenly dropped.

milk Sat 22-Sep-12 08:34:42

hello whenhenshaveteeth smile

Last night I woke up almost every hour to pee sad Totally sucks!!!

I am 38+4 today and want this baby to come out now!!!

Hope everyone else is well today smile

I've been like that the last couple of weeks whenhens . Have to hold my belly at the bottom when I stand up out of bed as the weight of the baby moves down and really hurts. Can feel the shift in weight moving from side to side in bed at night too.

Still nothing here despite getting my hopes up yesterday when I started to lose a bit of my plug and getting a lot of tightenings and period pains. Totally fed up now being overdue as two of my friends have had their babies over the last couple of days - and their due dates were behind mine and they didn't even hit them. Grrrr. Have the day to myself so gonna head out and walk this baby out. Midwife commented yesterday baby is still very high.

Have a good day everyone and sending labour vibes to all those who need them!

firstbubba Sat 22-Sep-12 10:15:46

Hi im firstbubba from the other October thread EDD 2/10 had a sweep thursday and due anothet one this week if nowt happens then booked for induction 1/10. DP currently away til next week.

Still nothing here

milk Sat 22-Sep-12 15:24:32

firstbubba : If you are due on the 2/10, why are they sweeping you so early?

firstbubba Sat 22-Sep-12 15:45:34

milk hoping i will go naturally i think booked for induction 1/10 due to age

milk Sat 22-Sep-12 15:51:04

My due date is also 2nd October smile Although to be honest I'd be quite happy if baby made an appearance sooner rather than later grin

firstbubba Sat 22-Sep-12 16:09:45

Me too know how you feel (grin)

milk Sat 22-Sep-12 16:21:07

People keep telling me to enjoy the rest, but how can I when I have to get up every hour during the night to pee and feel horribly uncomfortable! lol

firstbubba Sat 22-Sep-12 17:19:19

Yup not quite the rest I had in mind either with the frequent toilet trips should have shares in Andrex, which I have noticed is not of the standard I remember and rips easily

milk Sat 22-Sep-12 17:23:57

In Tesco you can buy Spring Force Toilet Tissue 9 Roll for £1.99 and it is the best toilet paper I have ever used grin

Mikyahrose Sat 22-Sep-12 17:31:22

Nothing to report here ladies. Now 40+4 and still no sign of anything happening. A few tightenings, but thats it really.

Sleeping isnt too bad, turning over is such an effort though, getting up twice for a wee most nights and tend to struggle to get back to sleep the second time, so end up playing on my phone at 4am, Do manage to drop back off eventually though.

DP has told me he's not allowed to come tomorrow as there is too much footy on! Off for a curry tomorrow evening though.

milk Sat 22-Sep-12 17:33:25

Can curry really help? I wanted to go out for a Chinese with DH this week, but if curry can bring on labour then I think I'll have to switch to Indian instead :P

Mikyahrose Sat 22-Sep-12 17:47:36

I dunno, but i'm now just trying most things that people suggest. I've also heard pineapple is good, so have eaten a couple of tins of that.

Think i've talked the DP into sexy time later too. ;)

squidkid Sat 22-Sep-12 18:19:55

Hey there. Sorry to read about others struggling! I have been pretty rubbish last few days really... the waiting thing has caught up with me I think.

I'm 39+4 now. Lots of achy period pain and tightenings, but sporadic and no pattern. More today than before, but still don't think it's going anywhere. Sleeping badly, but not due to that. These symptoms have been going on for about a week now. It's made me very frustrated and emotional - been crying a lot.

I have lots of pressure down below, but I've had that for about 4 weeks now (baby was engaged from 34 weeks).

Feeling very emotional and hormonal and like I am letting everyone down by not having had the baby yet (even though I'm not due yet!) Finding it hard to care about things. My friends aren't being annoying with texts, but they are... well, excited. I feel like I am disappointing them...

Have been a bit better today though due to sunshine and being busier (out at some festivals and seeing friends). Got friends coming tomorrow as well... and a gig in the evening.

I always said and thought I'd go overdue as most babies do but SO MANY people have told me "bet you'll be early" because I'm very active and baby was engaged early - must have subconsciously believed them. Meh. Boyfriend is buying champagne ready... I just want my baby now. Still walking 2-5 miles a day, sitting on my ball a few hours a day, listening to hypnotherapy, spending up to an hour a day on all fours. I have been eating a lot of pineapple too... I don't believe the curry thing, I've eaten food spicy enough to blow your head off since I was first pregnant, that's just the way I cook it! I had sex 4 times this week so that's not worked either! I think babies just come when they come...

Damn it! I started this thread all positive and have turned into a "get baby out of me now" woman! Actual due date is not till Tuesday, and most people do go overdue.

I am thinking of all of you. I warn you though, I will be completely irrationally jealous of anyone who comes early grin

missjackson Sat 22-Sep-12 18:40:00

40 plus EIGHT here today! Was offered a sweep yesterday but decided against it in the end - am going to trust my body to do it when it's ready (DC3). squid you sound very active, I was like that with number 1 and 2, but this time I am much bigger and have backache, so much more sloth-like! Hang in there, you won't remember all this waiting around when you finally have your snuggly newborn in your arms!

firstbubba Sat 22-Sep-12 18:49:29

Ladies, midwife recommended sex, curry and pineapple! Lol

PollyIndia Sat 22-Sep-12 19:42:20

Has anyone tried acupuncture or reflexology? I am only 39+3 so wouldn't until 41 weeks I guess... definitely thinking about it as I don't think this baby is coming any time soon. I am still in no rush though. I only finish work on tues so I am looking forward to a good week/10 days of catching up with mates, going to the gym, pottering about and having indulgent afternoon snoozes. Though the insomnia has started - I wake up for the loo and then can't get back to sleep due to the nervous excitement that has started to build. It's not too bad yet though.

I'm also doing the evening primrose oil thing which is meant to soften the cervix. I am single so no sex unfortunately (baby's father is an ex), and I also cook really spicy food so I don't think that will work.

I think the baby will come when he or she is ready - I just hope it's before they induce as am really not looking forward to that prospect one iota.

PollyIndia Sat 22-Sep-12 19:44:13

I have also just realised my heating isn't working so this baby can't come until that is fixed as I am hoping for a homebirth. So actually I'll be staying away from curry and pineapple for a bit!

Chillis and spicy food is the norm for me and too much pineapple would just give me heartburn - I did try that one briefly though. I'm not with the baby's father anymore so sex is out the window for me also (though I'm sure he would probably step up to the mark if I asked grin )

Funny I was considering asking my mum's friend, a reflexologist, if a session with her was worth a shot.

paperclips Sun 23-Sep-12 00:10:44

Strange day today.

All the aches and tightenings I had the previous night had stopped by morning so was a bit down in the dumps. Went to a crap farmers market and a crap carnival and generally was in a bad mood. Then burst into tears when dh had to help me get out the car.

More worryingly baby was moving a lot less than usual throughout the day. Baby is usually busy partying every night, but not tonight. So ended up at the MLU triage at about 10pm. Stuck me on monitoring for an hour. Baby woke up then, and everything was fine.

While I was there we heard someone coming in, get shown into another room, scream a bit, followed by cries of "the head's out" down the corridor, people running, then a lovely healthy baby crying. Was very moving. Pretty sure I won't be popping any babies out in triage or any time soon though.

Baby now moving more now and I'm much happier, and have had a trial run of finding the unit.

YompingJo Sun 23-Sep-12 08:46:48

Ballroomblitz, sex with a reflexologist is a clever way of combining the two! gringringringringrin

Sorry, know that's not what you meant by "a session" but couldn't resist!

38+2, want this baby out NOW.

zoey11 Sun 23-Sep-12 08:53:20

I'm 39+6 days and the last 2 day I've had really bad watery discharge but no pains with it, this is my 2nd baby but I had my first at 37 weeks, is this normal this far gone?

whenhenshaveteeth Sun 23-Sep-12 09:06:49

I like the idea of having sex with the reflexologist too grin. I tried with my husband yesterday but it hasn't worked, maybe that's where I'm going wrong wink

I also tried an extra hot curry last night, which was yummy but didn't bring on labour. I don't really believe in those methods (apart for sex because of the prostaglandins) but I thought it would be fun to try. TBH I eat quite hot food normally so I'm probably immune to it anyway.

I don't know what the weather is like where you are but it's foul here, so there's not much to do apart from giving birth really... Plus I slept really well last night, DH is at home so can look after DS and I think my MW is working today. The baby would be bloody cheeky not to come today, don't you think?!!

Joke aside I lost a blob of clear/white stuff this morning - is that a bit of the plug? I know it can be pinkish/greenish but can it be clear/white? I've been having discharge for a while but this one was "bigger" than usual. Your thoughts?

grin grin so that's where I'm going wrong YompingJo ? Hats off to those even entertaining the thought of a jiggy session - I feel and look as sexy as a baby elephant.

Yep zoey sounds normal to me.

I think the mucus plug can be different colours whenhens . Mine was mainly brown with a bit of clear - like a jelly consistency, but I'd had a sweep done 48 hours before so was still bleeding old blood a bit and quite common to lose some after a sweep apparently. From what I picked up reading about it the other day can be clear/white but preferably pink tinged (bloody show) as it shows your cervix is dilating/effacing.

zoey11 Sun 23-Sep-12 10:24:49

thank u ballroomblitz,
well hopefully he will show his little face soon lol I've got my first sweep next Thursday and what I have readed up about it, it isit very nice so I'm praying he comes soon lol but I've tried everything even sex!! but he's to happy in my belly lol

firstbubba Sun 23-Sep-12 11:39:46

zoey i had a sweep last week and due another one this week MW was lovely not nearly as bad as i was expecting tb. Doesnt seem to have made the slightest difference tho!

funchum8am Sun 23-Sep-12 11:40:19

Zoey I have been getting similar fluid etc, hoping it is normal (am 40+3).

Does anyone know what % of women get each early sign of labour, eg show vs waters trickling or gushing vs contractions? (let me know if that is a stupid question for any reason!)

zoey11 Sun 23-Sep-12 12:18:35

oh no a lot of my friends said it doesn't do nothing, well fingers crossed he might come tomorrow when he's due lol wishful thinking thou lol

zoey11 Sun 23-Sep-12 12:22:06

funchum8am it's not very nice when I told my midwife about it she said it could be my waters leaking but I don't have no pains with it so just going to sit sight and wait till I start getting other signs of labour but I hope it's soon lol

Mikyahrose Sun 23-Sep-12 15:07:23

Sexy time session. Done. Still no baby though. :/

Drinking a raspberry leaf tea as i type and curry booked for tonight.

My mums coming tomorrow for a few days, so maybe he'll come then, she'd absolutely love it if she could be there at the birth (i live 3 hours away from her, so she's only got so long booked off work)

Will probably do more swimming and walking next week while she's here too.

40+5 now.

milk Sun 23-Sep-12 18:14:42

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! A friend due a few days after me just had her baby yesterday angry How inconsiderate :P rant over smile

Hope all you other ladies are well this evening... sending labour vibes to you all smile

If you think it's waters leaking zoey I would get checked out. I just said thought it sounded normal as I have been getting a lot more fluid discharge, especially in the morning after getting up. My friend's waters leaked about her due date, but they scanned her saw there was still enough there and left her to start on her own a week later.

My sweep wasn't too bad (looking back smile ) . Not exactly enjoyable at the time but I found the second one far easier as the female doctor was lovely and I was more relaxed, compared to the strange, brusque male doc I had the first time. Neither one did anything for me though.

firstbubba Mon 24-Sep-12 11:21:35

Been up most of the night with painful swollen ankles now concerned re lack of movement and cant get a hold of anyone to take me in to get checked over

PollyIndia Mon 24-Sep-12 11:35:15

firstbubba can't you get a cab? Do you have other children to look after? If worried, best to go in.

How is everyone on this beautiful morning?

I had a good nights sleep last night - probably because the guy from british gas didn't get there to fix my heating and hot water until midnight so I was shattered! But still, lovely to get 8 hours although I woke up a lot - standard. My birth ball definitely has a slow puncture as I am sitting on it as I work getting shorter and shorter as it deflates.

Penultimate day at work, though don't have much to do so going for ribs in shoreditch for lunch then got a facial booked in that I paid for a year ago. Due Thursday and definitely getting much stronger period pains last night and today but not particularly hopeful that it means anything.

I am going to look into this acupuncture and reflexology too for when I get to 41 weeks.

Anyone feel like labour is imminent?

JessTT Mon 24-Sep-12 12:37:21

Nope.....don't feel like its imminent here! Haven't even had any period pains for the last day or so after having them almost every evening for a week-ish! Feeling a bit rubbish today but not due to anything pregnancy related...more a raging sore throat so think am coming down with the cough/cold my DD is full of at the mo :-( - don't really fancy going into labour not being able to breathe properly so hope am wrong!

Got a midwives appointment tomorrow, sure they will offer me a sweep and start talking about induction but am going to say no to both at mo....whether I'll feel the same in a weeks time I have no idea! But sleeping really well and don't feel too fed up so making the most of it.

Apparently Clary Sage essential oil (good to add to baths and massage oils etc) is quite effective if anyone is getting to that point.....am kind of in the 'it'll come when its ready and not before' camp but then I have never got to that point when I have felt in desperate need to try anything to get bubba out so maybe I'll be covering myself in the stuff in a weeks time ;-)

Mmmmmm....enjoy your facial Polly! x

whenhenshaveteeth Mon 24-Sep-12 17:53:34

Hellooo!

I tried clary sage + jasmine + lavender yesterday in the bath but didn't do much. At the same time it's not like I'm overdue (39 + 2)... Tried curry and sex too, nice but not effective - didn't think it would btw but just wanted to try for fun.

Planning on going for a long walk + (gentle) swimming on Wed and Thursday to see if that helps. Planned lots of stuff for the week, so surely the baby is bound to come and disrupt something!

funchum8am Mon 24-Sep-12 18:03:52

I am now four days over but slept brilliantly last night as for some reason my sleep apnoea vanished, so feeling ok. I feel even less like baby is ready to appear than I did last week. Had my toenails done with Shellac and my legs waxed...am sure baby will be very pleased. It helped me pass the time at least!

Orenishii Mon 24-Sep-12 19:11:37

Fingers crossed babies start putting in an appearance soon, ladies!

I had a cry today when the midwife came to book the homebirth sad The only fly in the ointment was my BMI was on the high side.

Now - I'm not completely delusional about my body: I'm short with a big rump and breasts. But. Pre-pregnancy my waist was 24 inches with a 13 inch difference between my hips and waist. My BMI was always on the high side anyway because my penchant for muscle building type fitness - Olympic lifting, gymnastics, martial etc, not fat reducing cardio. So I'd always dismissed BMI as a fairly stupid and arbitrary measurement - my pre-pregnancy ratio of height and weight in no way reflected my fitness levels or fat versus muscle. To add, my husband is a personal trainer and very knowledgable about how ridiculous BMI measurement is.

The MW took my height and weight and said my BMI might be too high. Literally she only measured those two things to determine weight gained - it's not like she actually measured my body fat. She then said I might not be eligible for either an HB or the MLU. I just burst into tears at this point because a) a labour ward was the last place I want to be and b) it seems so fucking stupid that something like a BMI measurement should be the thing that prevents the birth I'd prefer.

I promise you - if I was just fat, I'd suck it up. I've been overweight, I know what overweight is. If it was something like blood pressure or protein in urine or anything like that, I'd suck it up. But I know BMI is an arbitrary measurement. I've not even gained that much, about 2 stone which is within their guidelines - it's just the ratio of height to weight and it pisses me off!

Argh, anyway after that stress they looked at my activity and actually fucking looked at me, conceded I don't look "overweight" and that I would be eligible for the planned HB or going into the MLU if I wanted to. But I am still sad about the whole thing.

Sorry! This is long. It's not all about me, I know. I hope y'all are OK and edging ever closer to meeting your little babies. Safe arrivals all round, ladies!

firstbubba Mon 24-Sep-12 19:43:16

What a day, fully checked over and both of us given the all clear. Being in the hospital with other mums to be made this feel very real only a week to go.

squidkid Mon 24-Sep-12 20:03:54

orenishii I share your opinion on the BMI scale, ridiculous for the athletic. I'm really sorry they upset you (it would have upset me), though I am glad they decided it didn't matter in the end. SHould they even be measuring BMI in pregnancy....? hmm For the record, anyone with a 24 inch waist who only puts on 2 stone in pregnancy is CLEARLY not overweight. I also weigh more than I look like I do - hover around a BMI of 24-25, wear a size 8/10. I mean I would look like death with a BMI of 19. Stupid.

PollyIndia Mon 24-Sep-12 20:06:23

Firstbubba, very glad all is well.

Orenishii, that is bullshit. How dare they put you through that only to look at you and say actually there is nothing to worry about. I am sorry you had to go through that. I've been lucky with my homebirth team - they seem very pragmatic and supportive. Was that midwife the homebirth midwife or one of the community ones?

Jess, facial was actually quite uncomfortable! It's the lying on your back, even with my shoulders and head elevated. But was nice to get my skin seen to and not sure when I will get the chance to do something like that again. Am also thinking of getting shellac funchum8am, just as I like having my nails painted and again, don't see myself getting a chance to do it (or the inclination!) for a while.

Whenhenshaveteeth I have been planning lots too - almost daring the baby to come. Pretty sure it's not working. Though actually am kind of happy for another week at least. Though might change my mind when my due date comes and goes on thursday.

squidkid Mon 24-Sep-12 20:07:52

I am due tomorrow.

I feel like baby is never going to come.

Had 7 hours of contrations 5-10 mins apart on sunday, but it came to nowt and I haven't really had anything else today. So I spent all day today crying, very constructive use of time... horrible torrential rain didn't help, I think this is the first day I haven't exercised at all in my entire maternity leave.

Boyfriend came home and decided he wanted to induce labour and we had some uncomfortable but fairly wild sex! For 40 weeks anyway... Then I went to the loo afterwards and, ta-da! Mucus plug. Huge and gross and brown. He is very pleased with himself, men eh.

I know it doesn't mean labour is imminent though. Meh.

I thought I'd be so happy getting to my due date but I just feel like crap. Hope tomorrow is better.

Orenishii Mon 24-Sep-12 20:22:35

Awww thanks squidkid and pollyindia - I am going to shake myself out of it because I've been super positive throughout, and it's been the first wobble - maybe it's just nerves and hormones and stuff smile

squidkid MUCUS PLUGNESS!! This is awesome! I know, I know it doesn't mean instant labour but it's BEGINNING. Things are happening. Props to boyfriend wink

polly all that pampering sounds so good - although I'd have the same issues with lying on my back. But all that pampering must have relaxed you, definitely smile

firstbubba glad to hear everything is well and good!

Also no feeling of imminent labour here. I feel like this baby is never going to move tbh and have been getting myself a bit upset about it today. I feel like I've reached my physical and emotional limits.

I have heard that your body can sometimes delay labour if you are coming down with something Jess . You have my sympathies. I'm convinced I'm about to get a virus or something too. Have been feeling fluey and generally like poo the last two days. Have no energy whatsoever and ds has started coughing with a bunged up nose. The joys of him starting back to school means the two of us will be dying with this and that for months.

Glad everything is ok firstbubba . I have days bump goes fairly quiet but always best to trust your instincts and get checked out.

You are brave getting waxed funchum . I couldn't face that atm.

Kudos to your boyf squidkid (and you for even attempting sex) grin

JessTT Mon 24-Sep-12 22:44:06

Well I take back what I said earlier about it not being imminent......my waters just broke!!!!! (luckily had just got out of bed to go to the toilet so just avoided soaking the mattress!) Suddenly my snotty nose seems less significant ;-) getting a few tightenings but nothing major yet so gonna try snoozing while I can.....

Wish me luck ladies! X x x

funchum8am Mon 24-Sep-12 22:47:07

squidkid hope you are feeling better, or indeed that labour is beginning...I would be so excited to have a show (that is sad isn't it? Being keen to have mucus fall from your nethers...but I AM keen!)

Still zero signs of labour here and I can't sleep either.

pollyindia Shellac is great, it lasts for ages especially on your toenails.

Waxing was actually ok though the lady had to get me to stand up so she could kneel down and do the backs of my legs.since I couldn't lie on my front! Luckily it is a salon where I know the staff so we had a good laugh about it.

Here's to some overnight labouring action everyone!

funchum8am Mon 24-Sep-12 22:47:47

Ooh good luck jess!!!

Wow loads of luck Jess .

Not jealous in the slightest grin

If it's any consolation I had a show 3 days ago funchum . Nothing happened after it for me.

ST82 Mon 24-Sep-12 23:52:38

jessTT good luck!!!

39 +4 and still no real signs of anything, expect for random period like cramps, pains and lower back ache pains, nothing regular and very sporiadic.... ,u bump is still quite high up, i think, and i don't feel like the bby has dropped or engaged!! due to see MW on wednesday...

Come on baby - mummy and everyone else is ready to meet you.....

paperclips Tue 25-Sep-12 04:36:44

Gave up on sleep at 4am as mind all over the place. This is the first time the tightenings have ever continued overnight. General back pain more so. Not really believing this is "anything" but the "tightenings" are feeling significantly stronger, more uncomfortable though not painful. Think I'll ask dh to work from home unless it all stops.
Feels "different" but then that might not mean anything. Going to relax with my book on the ball then go back up and try to get as much sleep as possible.

I have put a contraction counter app on my phone- you press it to count frequency and duration.

Hope you are all ok...

PollyIndia Tue 25-Sep-12 07:27:50

Good luck jess! ST82 I am the same as you.. Pretty sure baby not engaged.
Squid kid, I thinking would be excited to have a show too. Hope it has kick started something.
Funchum8am I was contemplating a bikini wax but don't think I an be bothered. If still no signs of labour in a week though, I probably will just for something extra to do. Maybe I can practice my hypnobirthing breathing!
Paperclips, that sounds positive! Hope you got a bit more sleep.

I was awake at 5 too... I am going to get up and do my preg yoga DVD I think. Then got a bit of work to finish off, lunch with my 38 week preg friend, haircut and a birthday dinner tonight in shoreditch if I feel ok. I think it's 45 people and a set menu though so I might just show my face and go home.

Here's hoping we have some babies today!

whenhenshaveteeth Tue 25-Sep-12 09:05:06

Haven't got time to post, just wanted to say good luck Jess, soooo exciting!!

Paperclip, thinking of you too. Hope this is it, will keep an eye on my phone for updates!

JessTT Tue 25-Sep-12 13:38:20

So.....Nell Rosa (we're not 100% sure of the name yet!) arrived at 9am in the pool at home......yay!!! She's amazing (currently snoozing on my boob making cute snorty noises) and am sooooo happy I got my pool homebirth!!!

Now good luck to all you lovely ladies x x x

CluelessMama Tue 25-Sep-12 13:44:47

Hello all, just found this thread and though I haven't caught up with all previous messages yet, I feel very at home here! Identify with so much of what has been said!
I am 40 + 3, have had a good pregnancy. Bags have been packed for weeks and until a few days ago I was excited and smiley and really felt ready for the challenges to come. Now I have a weird feeling of anticlimax, a bit bored as if I've lost interest in the whole thing!! I'm sure I'll get excited again pretty quickly when things start happening, but I'm so much more tired and to try to avoid myself going mad I've been avoiding baby-related reading/preparing for a few days...all in all I feel less ready/able to cope than I was before!!
Midwife appointment and sweep on Friday, will be happy to have sweep if it works but suspect it only has an effect if my body and baby are already pretty close to going anyway...will go with it and see what happens I guess.
Good to see a couple of names I recognise from Sept thread, was wondering about you funchum and ballroomblitz, hope things happen for you both soon but nice to feel there's others in the same boat as me!

CluelessMama Tue 25-Sep-12 13:46:04

On a more positive note...congrats JessTT!!

whenhenshaveteeth Tue 25-Sep-12 14:02:15

Congratulations Jess thanks

That seemed pretty quick, which is encouraging for the rest of us!

Paperclip, any progress?

Nothing for me, literally nothing. I know it's not even my due date yet (friday) but I was so convinced he was going to be early, I'm a bit confused now.

I've got a few things to finish so in a way I'm not too bothered but still the wait is a bit weird, I like having a plan!

Re: BMI, I wouldn't worry. You know the BMI doesn't work for people who are muscle heavy and you can easily back that argument so that your MW leaves you in peace about it.

I love Shellac too, it's just a bit of a bum to get off so I'm not doing it this time. I'm too tight to pay to have it remove and given the weather I reckon I won't be exposing my toe nails so regularly so I'm just going to give them a fresh over for the birth and then I'll have other things to worry about I reckon...

Right, need to go for a nap, I'm shattered!

funchum8am Tue 25-Sep-12 15:49:37

Hi cluelessmama, you sound like you're having very similar feelings to me! I have a sweep on Friday as well bit as you say, it will only work if things are ready anyway so not getting my hopes up!

Congratulations jess, I am glad to hear you got the home birth you wanted!

Orenishii Tue 25-Sep-12 16:27:33

OMG JessTT HUGE congratulations!!!

And yay you're my hero - at home!

When and IF you feel to ready to, do tell us all about it - I am beginning to get the slight fear, but then you hear of someone just doing it and that person is amazing - bloody well done!

Mikyahrose Tue 25-Sep-12 16:48:37

Congrats jess. smile

Still nothing for me. Been for a brisk walk and swimming today.

Seeing the midwife tomorrow, hopefully having a sweep.

40 + 7 now.

paperclips Tue 25-Sep-12 17:04:45

Many Congratulations JessTT lovely news!

Still nothing here. All my aches and tightenings during the night calmed down again by morning, but every day they are getting stronger. I actually want them to get stronger more painful! It's weird to be hoping for pain!

This afternoon I've seen the midwife and had a sweep, well more of a poke around than a sweep she could only get a fingertip in, but cervix is 80% effaced so things are moving in the right direction. All those aches and things are having some effect. Also baby's head is now 4/5 engaged. The "tightenings" are continuing, stronger but not really regular.

Going to try another sweep on Thursday. Also have a booked for induction next week when I'll be 40+13, just in case I'm still waiting. I hope I don't need it.

Found out yesterday I have group B strep so will need antibiotics and have to stay in hospital for 24-48 hours after delivery. Bit upset about it, I've never been in hospital before and had hoped for everything really simple and to get home asap, but baby being safe is the most important thing. Just really want to meet our little snuggly baby now.

I would like a long walk but its so rainy here I got soaked just walking the 5 minutes to the clinic. It's awful outside.

Congratulations Jess

<waves to cluelessmama > Good to see some of us from the Sept thread are still im patiently hanging around for arrivals.

How did you find out you had strep B paperclips ? I know what you mean about it being weird wishing for pain smile

Now five days over sad Had a bit of walk despite getting told off by my parents for walking everywhere. Amazing that I'm in my 30s and still getting told off by them. Think they're a bit worried of my waters suddenly going when I'm out and about but just reassured them I always carry my phone with me.

I'm not noticing my tightenings getting stronger at all. Think I may just settle my head for section next week.

PollyIndia Tue 25-Sep-12 21:00:31

Ballroomblitz, my parents are always telling me to slow down. Walking is meant to be good for bringing on labour though. I reckon I have done about 4 miles today!

But more importantly congrats Jesstt. So pleased for you and second orenishii in saying I would love to hear a longer birth story. So hoping I get my homebirth!

paperclips Tue 25-Sep-12 22:25:44

Ballroomblitz - You asked how I found out about the group b strep. On saturday I went up to the hospital as I was worried about reduced movements. Baby was fine, but when they dipped my urine there was signs of infection so they sent it off to microbiology, and then I got a call from my GP about it on Monday. At least I found out though or I would never have known.

funchum8am Wed 26-Sep-12 09:42:35

Hi ladies, sorry to hear about the GBS ballroomblitz but at least you've found out so they can deal with the (very low) risk it presents. I do find it strange they don't test everyone for it routinely at the end of pregnancy here in the UK.

I have been waking up in the night and also when I wake in the mornings with sore hands and stiff fingers; turns out it's likely to be carpal tunnel syndrome. It will go when baby arrives most likely but SURELY it is not fair to get new symptoms AFTER my due date!!!!

Had a couple of more painful contraction type feelings yesterday but nothing since so am not getting overexcited. I am booked for induction next Tuesday when I'll be 40+12 and am trying to think of that as my "due date". I wanted to avoid induction but now I think I'm going to grab it with both hands! Good luck to everyone still waiting....we are dwindling in numbers a bit aren't we??

FirstTimeForEverything Wed 26-Sep-12 10:47:13

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Mikyahrose Wed 26-Sep-12 11:46:42

Morning everyone. 40+8 for me too. Just got back from the midwife. Had a sweep, not too bad actually, was expecting far worse. Did bleed though, which she was a little concerned about, but has sent me away saying just to keep an eye on it and if it dosent stop then i'm to ring her. No new blood in the last half hour, so hopefully its stopped. I hope so, as i'm planning on going swimming in the next hour.
Also booked in for my induction, which is Monday at 8.45. Eeek!!

TurquoiseGoldandOrangecat Wed 26-Sep-12 11:58:41

Hi all, I'm 40+3 today, and really want the baby out now but at the same time am freaking out about labour.

Trying everything now, fresh pineapple, spicy food, hot baths, I even let dh 'do the sex' last night blushgrin. No baby yet sad

Hospital bag has been packed and repacked. I can't do any more batch cooking as I've run out of room in the freezer. I feel like I can't drive anywhere because maybe I'd go into labour and then dh would have to pick me and a car up from a random place. I'm watching far too much e4 and am spending too much time on mumsnet I woke up the other night drooling over my pillow, having had a dream where I was on a train with Leonard and Sheldon, and we were having an argument about whether I was being unreasonable to not go and get more wine blush.

I'm sick of being too warm and not being able to walk properly and looking and sounding like a beached whale every time I try to get up. Im paranoid about my waters breaking in the newly decorated living room. I don't want the sweep. I want the damn baby now angrysad. Sorry for the long rant, but apparently I needed it wink

Orenishii Wed 26-Sep-12 12:06:56

Awww Turquoise rant away! I'm a few weeks behind you and can completely feel your pain!

I think the worst thing is not knowing what each little niggle is. Bump just suddenly started hurting massively - in a need-a-pee kind of way and went rock hard and super sticky outy. It's softened up a bit now but...how do you know?? I had back ache last night - is it labour back ache, or is it regular back ache? was the bump hardening/tightening regular or labour tightening?

Aaargghhh!

JessTT Wed 26-Sep-12 12:19:51

Hi ladies,
Ok, now I've had a bit of sleep.....here's my birth story:

Didn't think labour was at all imminent as had had less period pains etc than the previous week however got up to go to the toilet around 10pm Monday eve and literally felt a pop and waters went. Tried to go back to sleep but was too excited so rang my sis (who is a midwife but was gonna be there as my birthing partner, along with my partner) who lives about 45 mins away. Started getting contractions around 11ish...pretty regular but manageable one every 10mins. Gave up on trying to sleep about mid-night when my sis arrived....(told my other half he night as well get the sleep in) and we watched a film and then tried to snooze on sofa downstairs in between contractions. Bout 3/4am they were coming every 5 mins and I needed to get up, walk and put the Tens on as they were getting more painful.

Woke up my partner about 6am so he could start to sort pool out and also get daughters stuff together so that when she woke up at 6.45 she was ready to go accross the rd to our friends house. Rang midwives around 7ish to say was about to get into pool and also had got to the point of needing some gas and air. They turned up soon after just as contractions were really ramping up and asked if I wanted them to check how dilated I was....declined and carried on using g&a in pool...soon needed to start pushing and think it was about half an hour-ish of pushing before she was born!!! Stayed in water with her on me for 20 mins to wait for placenta to be delivered....ended up getting out and it being delivered after bout half an hour.

So was a very straight forward birth.....waaaaay easier and quicker than first time round. Not trying to make out it wasn't hard work at times but I never felt like I couldn't cope....guess I had faith that my body could just do it! Recommend going til you really can't handle the contractions without tens (if you're using one), then same with g&a as I felt just at the point of finding them hard to cope with so although am not sure how effective either are for actual pain relief they definitely were the distraction I needed at the time. Was just soooo lovely being at home, and getting to snuggle up in bed with my family straight after!

I hope you are all ok......you'll soon all be enjoying baby snuggles!
X x x

paperclips Wed 26-Sep-12 12:24:34

Hi all.

I'm feeling a bit brighter now because I have decided to try to forget that I'm 41 weeks today, and instead think of Tuesday (induction booked) as my due date. So I should have a baby by this time next week.

If baby decides to come out in the meantime then I will be delighted. I'm going to try not to sit around counting tightenings, and thinking "is this the start of it etc etc", because I've been thinking that for well over a week and nothing ever happens.

Best thing is the rain has stopped here so I can go for a little walk. (Before it starts again). Got another sweep tomorrow, and even though it hurts and is rather unpleasant, I am looking forward to the appointment, as I'm very keen for news on the state of my cervix!

I also think I should stay away from Mumsnet as it just makes me dwell on it, and I'm jealous of people having their babies. But I can't stay away!

paperclips Wed 26-Sep-12 12:27:51

JessTT your birth story sounds perfect. Sounds like you coped brilliantly too. Congratulations again.

PollyIndia Wed 26-Sep-12 14:32:30

That is a lovely story jess. Many many congratulations.

Paperclips, sounds like you have the right attitude. I hope I can be like that next week and just go out for a walk and not think about it.

Sorry to hear about the group b strep ballroom blitz. I don't think I have even been tested for that.

Firsttimeforeverything, mikyahrose and turquoise, really hope it all starts for you soon. But at least with induction getting close, you know there is an end point. I bet it doesn't make it easier.

Orenishii I totally relate to that post after today! I just walked up to the town centre to pick up post, shoes, birth ball and last bits for my hospital bag, and apart from everyone I came into contact with commenting on my bump and if it was a boy or girl (this doesn't bother me, I quite like it), I was getting really bad period pains and backache and started to be convinced this was it! Got home, had a cuppa and a bacon and avocado sandwich and the pains have gone.

Due tomorrow... I have always thought I would be at least a week late so made plans for tonight, tomorrow and the weekend and was out most of the day yesterday and at a birthday dinner last night, but now thinking that maybe it could happen sooner. Not sure I am quite ready! Either way, am going to try and enjoy my last few pre baby days/weeks!

funchum8am Wed 26-Sep-12 14:54:23

firsttime sorry to hear you're having to wait - hopefully the midwife will be wrong and it will all be fine when the time comes.

turquoise I could have written your post - freezer full, trying everything including "doing the sex" grin when DH can cope with the prospect, bless him and watching too much Big Bang Theory! Though I haven't dreamt about Sheldon and Leonard just yet....

Had a teary meltdown at midday as I tried to ring the community midwife to check if my newly developed carpal tunnel was in fact a sign of a problem eg raised blood pressure. The phone rang for 6 mins on each of the three calls I made then rang off so I rang the antenatal ward instead, thinking they could give me the advice I needed. Woman there was a bit stroppy saying I had to keep trying the community line and I went and started crying which is very unlike me. She then became WONDERFUL and put me through to the delivery ward once I told her I was overdue; the lovely midwife there reassured me, said I could go in for a check and calmed me down to the point that I didn't take her up on it. Cue about ten minutes uncontrollable hormonal sobbing after I finished the call though. I think I have reached my limit with this overdue business but I have a sweep on Friday so hopefully will be fine until then now the sobbing is out of my system!

Going to watch a film and eat a doughnut...should go for a walk instead really shoudn't I??? Will bounce on my ball to watch to make up for my lack of motivation to go out and walk about!

Huge sympathies to everyone else who is waiting and hoping - here's to lovely babies arriving soon.

PollyIndia Wed 26-Sep-12 15:30:55

Poor you Funchum8am. My sister had carpal tunnel and another friend has it and it's so painful. But you can't have long - there is an end point. Maybe do some stretches on the birth ball while you watch the film and eat a doughnut - that is as good as a walk.

Hope it's not too uncomfortable.

paperclips Wed 26-Sep-12 16:27:24

It was me with the Group B Strep- Ballroomblitz was asking about it. I am getting used to the idea now. Midwife says they don't routinely test for it is because it often comes and goes so they would have lots of false negatives.

Just one of those things, I have had a very straightforward easy pregnancy so far so lets just hope this is the only complication I get.

Yes I'd just asked paperclips about the GBS as I know they don't rountinely test for it in the UK. One of my neighbours is not long after a baby though and they found out she had it through a urine test also. Only noticed because she was in and out of hospital with UTIs.

Sounds like you had a really positive birth Jess. Well done.

I'm getting pretty much in the same mood as everyone else and starting to consider my section date on Monday as my due date. Kind of disappointed as I'm not looking forward to the recovery from it, especially with a four year old running about and wanted to give vbac a go but will just trust that whatever happens, happens for a reason. Hospital on Friday to get bloods taken, sign consent forms and the like so hopefully they will give me a quick scan to ensure everything is ok in there and placenta is still holding up.

funchum I've been walking miles a day and it doesn't do any good. I'm in the slob around and stuff my face camp now smile

PollyIndia Wed 26-Sep-12 18:03:38

Ah, sorry Paperclips. Baby brain strikes again!

funchum8am Wed 26-Sep-12 18:34:39

I did manage some bouncing during film and DH is now home...we ate going for a curry (mainly because we like them rather than for baby purposes) and he has suggested a bit of bedroom action so clearly he is as keen as I am to get things moving!

Not sure curry then sex is the right order myself but that's what he is up for....poor fella....

Namely Wed 26-Sep-12 18:38:39

Can I join please?! I am 40+3 and had a sweep today. Feeling absolutely nothing different. No pain nothing. Here they do 3 sweeps, one every other day so booked in again for Friday. I have now given up on other methods of inducing labour and am in the sit around, eat and watch telly camp! I am actually finding it quite stressful having no control and just having to wait!

PollyIndia Wed 26-Sep-12 18:57:56

I am having curry tonight too Funchum8am.

Namely, I don't think any of them really work anyway. Baby comes when he or she is ready! But am still going to have a curry and do my evening primrose oil tonight just in case!

PollyIndia Wed 26-Sep-12 18:58:22

And if I get to over 41 weeks then I may do the expressing thing....

YompingJo Wed 26-Sep-12 19:09:49

Sending all you overdue peeps thanks, biscuit, brew and sympathy - just wanted to say that it must be really hard to put up with when you are powerless to do anything to get things moving.

I completely expect to be in the same camp in a couple of weeks - due date is 5th October from scan but I know when my last period was and I felt when I ovulated and I calculated my own due date as 12th Oct, so not expecting anything to happen much before then. So when midwife thinks I am 41 weeks I think I will be 40weeks and when she starts suggesting induction etc I will have to battle it out - don't want to be induced, would rather be scanned and monitored.

Hang on in there everyone, it can't last forever.

Heartbeep Wed 26-Sep-12 20:26:38

Baby boy born yesterday by CS, was a lovely birth despite it being a medical birth. Very calm & genuinely enjoyable.

I'm so pleased he's here & so very glad for pregnancy to be over.

Wishing everyone still waiting the very best of luck, I hope all your aspirations for birth work out & that everyone has happy healthy babies.

PS its definitely boy season in this hospital!

ST82 Thu 27-Sep-12 00:49:46

40 weeks today! Having more trouble sleeping and just generally getting comfortable in bed... Starting to hate night time and the fact that everyone goes to sleep and im left wondering and feeling like crap!

MW went well yesterday, i measured ok etc but baby's head whilst in good position is not engaged yet?!?!? What is this baby think!!! I told MW im not prepared to go for a sweep yet, i will give it till next week at 41 weeks and then consider my options... I just hope i dont end up having to be induced!

Simpathy and encouragement to all of us going those painful last few days of our pregnancies! Hope so much its not long left for all of us

paperclips Thu 27-Sep-12 03:24:48

Anyone else awake? Since tea-time been having stronger "tightenings" to the point where I'm going to start using the word contractions. Also got low backache. Not managed to sleep yet. Doesn't seem to be a regular pattern in their timing. They are uncomfortable enough to keep me awake but not unbearable.

Worrying about lack of sleep is also keeping me awake! If this is really it I want as much sleep as possible. DH is snoring away, don't really want to wake him, at least one of us needs a good nights sleep.

I am expecting this all to be another false alarm. However its kinda getting more painful. Paracetamol has taken edge off backache. Might try a warm bath.

Just stressing about doing this on no sleep!

Wish me luck will let u gals know tomorrow if its all a false alarm or not!

TurquoiseGoldandOrangecat Thu 27-Sep-12 03:47:33

Hi paperclips, yes me! Think I might be starting contractions though they're probably just fucking braxton hicks, I'm timing them now to try and see a pattern. I hope this is it, but at the same time it hurts and I want it to go away.

TurquoiseGoldandOrangecat Thu 27-Sep-12 03:49:31

And good luck! To both of us - here's hoping they're not false alarms, and the dh's can be woken in a blind panic [evil maniac emoticon] grin

paperclips Thu 27-Sep-12 04:03:57

Well good luck to you too turquoise. Wonder how many women around the world are wondering the same thing at the moment!

Hope it goes well, look forward to hearing happy news, and to telling happy news!

I've been longing for this for days, (41 +1) just wish it wasn't middle of night.

Take care. X

Mikyahrose Thu 27-Sep-12 05:26:53

Ooo exciting news paper and turquoise. Can't wait to log on in the morning and see what's happened.
I'm struggling to sleep here, not uncomfortable or anything happening, just awake.
Popped back to see the mw earlier as I continued to bleed a bit throughout the day after the sweep. She was happy with the type of blood (quite dark) as this means it was just the mornings bleed still coming out. Just been to the loo and there's no blood now, so all is good. Apart from the sweep has done nothing! Hmpf!

PollyIndia Thu 27-Sep-12 07:29:06

ST82 I am due today too!! I know it's an arbitrary date but am still excited to have made it.
Paper and turquoise, hope this is it for you. Fingers crossed.
Glad to hear the bleeding has stopped mikyahrose. I am refusing my sweep Saturday I think. Not sure they do much if your body isn't ready.
Had lots of period pains yesterday and needed the loo a lot, but feel normal again today and had 6 hours sleep so don't think it is anything.
If I feel ok when I get up, I might go to the gym and see if that does anything.
Got friends coming for lunch then out for dinner - I have been making lots of plans to dare the baby to come and disrupt them, but don't think it is working!

ST82 Thu 27-Sep-12 09:37:29

pollyindia i think the fact that i have prepared myself to go well beyond due date is proving to be very useful, though it feels great having reached this big iolestone!!! I finally managed to sleep 7 hrs last night with only 2 trips to the toilet and not fully waking up and staring at the ceiling for hrs... Have had more pariod like pains this am and baby is soooo active, but other than that, not a lot more to report on...

Bestest of luck to those of you who have started to feel the real thing!!! Pass the love around pls smile

Sending you all love and higs!!!

PollyIndia Thu 27-Sep-12 10:01:49

It does feel great doesn't it! I made it to the gym and just cycled for a bit on zero resistance, but between my music, the endorphins and the insane levels of hormones, I actually ended up crying! What an idiot.

I'll probably be crying in frustration in 10 days time when i still haven't had the baby, but for today I am just really happy to be here smile

So I am also sending lots of love!

Mikyahrose Thu 27-Sep-12 10:02:18

Think my 'show' has just come out. i've googled imaged what it should look like. Mine was a lot dirtier than the pictures, but then i 'spose i've still got yesterdays bleed up there. But deffo looked similar to the pictures. Dunno if it comes out in one bit or a few little bits?

squidkid Thu 27-Sep-12 12:42:24

PollyIndia, I am impressed with your attitude. I had (I think) a very good attitude to late pregnancy until about 39 weeks and then I CRACKED! Am still staying very active but am tearful and emotional and want the baby now and having crises at the thought of baby not coming.

I'm 40+2 now. Had LOTS of signs last week (diarrhoea, tightenings, a period of contractions 5 minutes apart for 7 hours) but it's all stopped since Sunday. I am constipated again (boo) and the odd twinge but nothing like it was last week. I have been passing my mucus plug/show for the last three days, mine is coming out in bits and seems to mostly after exercise or sex.

Saw my midwife on tuesday and all is fine except no appearance from baby! She said she would be led by me as to sweeps/induction. I have decided to have my first sweep at 40+7. I don't think they do anything before then. So I am having one week of "I'm due, let's see if you come naturally" then I will have one week of sweeps every other day, and I'm not going to discuss induction until 42 weeks as I don't believe women are overdue till then.

This makes me sound a lot more patient than I am!

I have lots of things planned till the end of the weekend, but it's hard to think about anything except baby. Come and meet me honey, I'd like to say hi...

squidkid Thu 27-Sep-12 12:43:25

Mikyahrose - the google images of shows are awesome. Yuk!! It can come out in one piece (huge) or bits. Some women don't see it at all, I guess it comes out with all the rest of the gunk during labour!

Hoping there are some congrats for paperclips and turquoise today.

I bled after my sweep too mikyarose . Fresh blood that day and old blood for two days after. The doc said to expect it and not to worry unless it turned to fresh blood again after the first day. Also made me loose part of my show and was brown obviously cos of old blood. Again I was told this can be common after a sweep. Was six days ago so it didn't signal anything for me anyway. Hope you have better luck!!

PollyIndia Thu 27-Sep-12 14:41:43

Thanks squidkid - as I say, I am sure it will be a very different story in a week from now! I agree with you re sweeps. I don't want one before a week today at the earliest.

I also read on the how to induce baby thread about stimulating nipples through expressing. If I am still here in a week/10 days, I reckon I might do that. Right now though, definitely no desire to start expressing!

Surely good news re the show Mikyahrose? Although I guess not for you ballroomblitz. I really hope it happens for both of you very soon. And for all of us actually!

Nothing from paperclips or turquoise which is promising...

funchum8am Thu 27-Sep-12 14:44:11

I have a sweep tomorrow at 41+1 and then if that doesn't do anything they may let me have one on Monday; booked for induction on Tuesday if baby hasn't arrived by then.

I really need to decide whether I'm going to agree to induction at that point - I desperately want to have the baby now but I agree with you squid that we're not really over due til 42 weeks (Tuesday will be 41+5) and if there is no medical reason to induce I'd rather wait. This because a) I can go to the midwife led unit that I'm booked into rather than the labour ward and b) they won't strap a monitor on me which traps you on your back on the bed.

My midwife said they won't make me stay on my back on the bed if I am induced BUT I have met a couple of people booked into the same hospital who were told this and then on the day had MWs who weren't trained on the mobile monitoring unit so ended up strapped to monitor and were told not to move from the bed. I am NOT comfortable with that idea and can imagine being rather uncooperative if they tell me I have to stay put during labour!

But on the other hand I can't imagine how I'm going to feel by Weds/Thurs if the baby still hasn't shown signs of arriving and I'll know that I could have been home with baby by then! And I'll feel bad for delaying it for DH (though he will support me no matter what I decide.)

Anyone got any ideas/advice?!

PollyIndia Thu 27-Sep-12 15:34:04

Well, I wouldn't feel bad for your DH - as you say, he will support you whatever. I guess you need to think about what is the right thing for you and your baby - and that will be the right thing for him too I am sure.

I am a week behind you, but already had the induction conversation with my doula. I feel right now like I want to go to 42 weeks assuming all looks ok with placenta etc - then take each day as it comes.

But easy to say at 40 weeks and I may be desperate in 10 days time. Thing is, my mum was 2 weeks late with me and my sister so I feel like maybe we need 42 weeks in our family to go into labour naturally.

I don't know Funchum - I'd like to say just take each day as it comes then go with your gut when you get to next week - but not sure that is helpful.

On another note, currently building labour playlists. Am I way off the mark to be putting together one that is upbeat songs that I love? Should it be very chilled music do you think? It is hard to know what I will want to listen to....

Mikyahrose Thu 27-Sep-12 18:13:47

Thanks for your story ballroom nice to know its pretty common, the mw seemed a littled shocked by it, although sent me away, so obviously wasnt too worried.
The bleeding has stopped today and no more signs of the show or anything for that matter.
Feel a bit emotional this evening, picked dp up from work at 4 all happy, then suddenly plumitted. Not really sure why. Very strange, sure i'll be fine in a bit though.
Had to take the car seat and wheels back to the shop today as i'm really struggling getting the car seat on and off the wheels. They've give me a temporary carseat to take away, but i'm sad that i probably wont be bringing baby home in the proper kit. sad i know its petty, but has bothered me really. I'm annoyed at myself for leaving it so late too - i've been struggling with it for a few weeks, so should've sorted it sooner. Huff!

I'm sure your dh will be happy as long as you are happy funchum . I know it's hard thinking that if you refuse the induction you may think later in the week you may have had a baby by then. I kind of felt similar a couple of days ago knowing I'd refused the initial elcs to try for vbac and it doesn't seem to be happening and will probably have a cs anyway. Ended up thinking to myself wish I'd just got it over and done with, I'd be a week into my recovery and have bubbs by now. Have come round now to what's an extra week in the grand scheme. of things? At least I know that I gave it a proper go. In a couple of weeks I'll be looking back and thinking I should have just enjoyed the last week of relative peace to myself.

I have a mixture of the pregnancy mediatation music I have been listening to polly and the type of songs that keep me going when I'm out for a jog. I could be waayy off the mark also. My friend told me she brought a load of classical music for her labour and couldn't listen to any of it.

Hope you're feeling a bit better now mikyah . I swing from one mood to the other so quick these days. Takes the smallest thing to set me off.

paperclips Thu 27-Sep-12 21:53:00

It wasn't a false alarm, Noah Alexander arrived at 3.30pm today. Was all a bit mad, at midday went to community midwife 3cm dilated, in tears because og pain, sent me to labour ward then 3.5 hours later I had a baby! It's all a blur I was off my face on gas and air, dh has had to fill me in. He's so beautiful and little. It's amazing!

PollyIndia Thu 27-Sep-12 22:01:05

AMAZING! That is wonderful news. Congratulations Paperclips. Just lovely xx

ST82 Thu 27-Sep-12 23:38:10

wow massive congrats paperclips !!!!

enjoy the amazing journey of motherhood

TurquoiseGoldandOrangecat Fri 28-Sep-12 00:45:36

And another baby here! grin. This one's a girl thank goodness, would've been an interestingly dressed boy if the sonographer was wrong!

Name to be announced tomorrow (figured family should know first, sorry mnetters!!) arrived at 7.46pm. Have to say I really didn't enjoy the labour, I was definitely a screamer blush, and I had to be transferred from the mlu to the hospital during my pushing stage, which pissing hurt I now hate roundabouts with a vengeance and I ended up with an episiotomy sad. But all of the midwives were great, especially those in the hospital.

And I now have a beautiful (and big, 7lb12 to my 5'3"-ness!) little girl, so I can't be too sad!!

Congratulations to paperclip, hurray for not false labours! - and our babies now share a birthday with Meatloaf and Gwyneth Paltrow!! grin

funchum8am Fri 28-Sep-12 05:38:21

Congratulations paperclips and turquoise! Enjoy your beautiful newborns!

I am hoping for a similar experience to you, paperclips - had two contraction type pains this morning and off to the MW at lunchtime....

JessTT Fri 28-Sep-12 07:50:54

Yay.....more babies!!!! Fantastic news, huge Congratulations Paperclips &Turquoise! Enjoy the snuggles.....

And hang on in there you ladies that are still waiting.....you'll soon have your babies and nothing else will matter!

Xxx

Mikyahrose Fri 28-Sep-12 08:38:08

I want my baby!! sad

Massive congrats to you 2 girlies paper & turquoise. And fingers crossed for you too funchum

squidkid Fri 28-Sep-12 08:49:46

Massive congratulations to paperclips and turquoise... you guys give me hope... am beginning to feel like my body cannot go into labour.

Am only 40+3 though. I guess there's time. It just doesn't feel like it's going to happen now.

Really constipated and feel like this means labour will NEVER happen. Am eating a tin of prunes a day and been taking lactulose for a couple of days now. If I can't get my bowels moving will that mean labour will delay even further....? sad I feel like everyone I know said they had diarrhoea for a day or two before labour so there's no chance of it happening till after the weekend now. sad

Sleeping badly because I just feel like my body isn't working and is letting me and all my friends and most of all my boyfriend down. I am ok in the evenings but by the morning so sad again.

I am too sad to write on my normal thread this morning, I will try and cheer up before I go there.

Mikyahrose Fri 28-Sep-12 08:54:39

Oh squidkid dont be sad. I felt a bit like that yesterday, but it passed soon enough.

Just think, this time in 2 weeks you will definitely have a baby. I know that seems like ages away, but honestly the time will fly. i'm on 40+10 now and my due date seemed like just yesterday. I'm off to be induced Monday unless it all kicks off before then. So i keep telling myself that by this time next week, i should be home with my baby.

Dont think you're letting people down, there will be a baby. smile

Orenishii Fri 28-Sep-12 09:01:44

Massive congratulations to paperclip and turquoise!!!!! Wow ladies, you're so very, very awesome grin

squidkid don't lose heart. A - you're not letting anybody down, your body is doing it its thing. Trust that your body and baby know what they are doing smile Some have diarrhoea before, some don't. It's not a foregone conclusion. Just keep relaxing, walking, maybe some swimming - it's about the relaxation at this stage. Your body basically just wants to be in a safe and open place - physically I mean, not like in an open plan lounger/diner.

If you're all tense and beating yourself up for such things you cannot control, you're going to either go into labour tense, or continue to tense all your muscles up that need to be all relaxed. I'm not explaining this well but basically just trust that your baby will come when they're ready. You're body will kick into action when it needs to. You just concentrating on not stressing yourself out, resting and knowing that you're ready to KICK ASS when the time comes.

PollyIndia Fri 28-Sep-12 09:37:33

Echoing what orenishii and mikyahrose say, don't be sad squid kid. You started this thread so full of positivity and it was a breath of fresh air. You are so near the end. Definitely try and do some things that make you relax and it will happen. It will happen for all of us within the next few weeks.

Sending you lots of good vibes and love.

And congratulations turquoise. Mikyahrose, hope your baby comes today.

I am 40+1 and feel less like this baby is coming today than for the last few weeks. So I will almost certainly still be here in 10 days.

Xxx

Orenishii Fri 28-Sep-12 09:42:35

I dreamt last night that DH and I were having a practice run at the birth, and as our baby emerged we pushed it back in because it was just the practice run.

sob

squidkid Fri 28-Sep-12 10:12:39

Thank you guys. That's really kind. I've just had a long, relaxing bath and feel a load better. I DO feel ok as the day goes on, and I KNOW I'm being ridiculous. It's rare to deliver before your due date for a first time mum, the way I am trying to view it is

40 weeks - now I'm due! (should never have really considered coming befoer - though I did have a lot of signs!)
40-41 weeks - hopefully I'll come naturally (I think about 60% of mums do at this point)
41-42 weeks - hopefully I'll come with a leeetle assistance from a sweep or two
Apparently 95% of mums will go into labour by 42 weeks naturally, which are GOOD ODDS!

And obviously it's not my fault, and I do loads of the stuff people rarely do in late pregnancy (proper long walks, sex) so it's not like I could have done anything more. I'm sorry for being so sad! Awash with hormones...

Orenishi of course, you are totally right. I'm useless, I concentrated so hard on getting relaxed about the thought of labour (I am totally chilled about the idea of giving birth, possibly naively so!) that I didn't think enough about the "letting it happen when it's ready" bit! Relax, relax, relax. Also that dream is SO UNFAIR! I had a dream about work - it was weird, I wasn't pregnant in it. Normally I am pregnant in all my dreams at the moment.

pollyindia thanks sweetheart, and ... I like to be positive, I will try and get back to that place. I have a lot to be positive/thankful about!

Mikyahrose all my fingers and toes crossed for you love. I know it must feel near the end but your odds are still good. And like you... There Will Be Babies.

FirstTimeForEverything Fri 28-Sep-12 10:19:10

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Orenishii Fri 28-Sep-12 10:34:29

Feeling sorry for myself klaxon: y'all will well have had your babies by the time I get to my due date (only at 37+4). Need to round up some more MNetters wink

squidkid Fri 28-Sep-12 10:39:25

Orenishii you should go join the "due in October" club, the ladies there are really amazing, have been so supportive and cool and fun. I only defected to here recently because I was the first one due and so as I am going batty with the wait they are still finishing work etc, and the early inductions/sections are making me burst into tears! (and then I feel like a selfish cow, as I am the one with the low risk pregnancy!)

let me find a link :
here

Congrats paperclips and way-hey for gas and air grin . Love, love, love the name Noah - it was one of my choices for a boy and Alexander is a family name so love it too. Big congratulations too on your baby girl turquoise

Good luck for today funchum and hope the contractions turn out to be something, even though I will apologise in advance for being slightly jealous because we had the same due date grin

Just to reiterate that your body isn't letting you down squidkid . Have faith that your baby and body know when the time is right. Think I read somewhere that although they aren't sure of the mechanism to start labour they believe it may be something to do with the lungs of the baby signalling they are fully developed which initiates labour. Stress can also delay labour so relax (easier said than done eh)

40+8 today - or is it 41+1? Whichever I'm off to the hospital shortly to sign my consent forms for my section on Monday. I've been saying to my mum the whole way through what's the betting baby will hang on until I get my head round having a cs and will arrive just before it happens? Feeling much the same - no real contractions or anything, only thing different last couple of days is the pressure round my pubic bone. Feel like it's bruised, even on the outside. Going to have a lot of do this weekend between getting the house ready, maybe getting myself some more new pjs, repacking my hospital bag for a longer stay for me and baby, sorting out ds to stay with my parents and what I'm going to do with my dog. Cannae be bothered.

Hopefully things will change for you over the weekend firsttime . Would you consider an early epidural if things don't change and you have induction, back to back? You have my sympathies with the nerves being hit. Until a couple of days ago I've had weeks of baby hitting the nerves at the top of my thighs/groin area. So painful. Everyone though it looked really funny but really makes you double over and catch your breath.

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funchum8am Fri 28-Sep-12 11:55:50

Sorry to hear you've got the blues squid I felt the same earlier this week but feel better now even though baby isn't here yet and hopefully the same will happen for you!

Just been to visit a friend with a 3 day old baby and held her for half an hour so if that gets the hormones going I may have news later. Just sitting in Starbucks killing time til my Mw appt for my first sweep

funchum8am Fri 28-Sep-12 11:58:23

Sorry to hear you've got the blues squid I felt the same earlier this week but feel better now even though baby isn't here yet and hopefully the same will happen for you!

Just been to visit a friend with a 3 day old baby and held her for half an hour so if that gets the hormones going I may have news later. Just sitting in Starbucks killing time til my Mw appt for my first sweep. Sadly haven't had any more contractions since two very early this morning but hoping they are a sign that things are ready enough for the sweep to work.

orenishii that is so unfair of your brain to send you a dream like that!! How rude smile

Mikyahrose Fri 28-Sep-12 13:58:25

Sounds like we're in the same boat firsttime.

I'm also 40+10, with a back to back baby and booked in for induction on monday. Had a sweep Wednesday, which doesnt seem to have done anything (apart from make me bleed) Got another booked for tomorrow, then off to the hospital at 7.30am on Monday.

I've heard that b2b labours are harder, but the mw hasnt mentioned anything about having an epidural to me. i hope i dont have to, as i want a water birth, and she thinks thats should be fine providing i dont get hooked up to a drip.

I 'spose i'll find out more when we get to the hospital on Monday. Although i'm hoping it'll all start on its own before then.

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Mikyahrose Fri 28-Sep-12 18:21:16

Its odd how midwifes can differ so much.

I'm seeing a different one tomorrow, so will ask all the same questions and probably some new ones and see what she has to say.

Lets just hope our babies turn and that its not as bad a we're led to believe.

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PollyIndia Sat 29-Sep-12 08:05:29

Ballroomblitz, how come you are going straight to c section and cutting out induction? Sounds kind of appealing When so many inductions end in emcs!

Firsttime, hope things do change. I don't think my baby's head is engaged either. Seeing mw today so will see what she says, but I think you now don't you?

Mikyahrose, it is good you can have a water birth even with induction. The thing I want least of all is to be hooked up to monitors flat on my back. I know by then it won't matter as all I will want is the baby, but would like to try everything else first.

Any movement funchum8am?

How are you feeling today squidkid?

I have been having bad period pains on and off but I know this can last for weeks. It's weird, I have always said I thought I would be late and always thought 11th oct (my birthday!) as the time by which I would have the baby despite a 27th sept edd, but having passed the 27th sept, I have started to get quite antsy. It has really surprised me how wedded to this date I obviously am, despite knowing how arbitrary it is. I was at my sister's for my mum's birthday last night and they were all getting hammered and I just wanted to be at home on my own.

Anyway, going to try and pull myself together and go for a nice walk in the park today and have lunch at the William Morris gallery up the road with some friends. I have to keep remembering that this is a precious time, as once the baby is here, life changes forever!

I had a cs before Polly cos of pre-eclampsia and placental problems. Labour can cause problems with the scar as it is hence why they like vbacers on continuous monitoring, but induction puts more stress on it and it can rupture or come apart. I think with my hospital they give you the option to try you on one pessary only and no drip but I just didn't see the point. I was keen to give vbac a go but from researching my risk factors are slightly higher than normal of rupture because I had ds premature with no labour. I'll just try to trust that if my body doesn't go into labour, it's for the best. Saying that I've been having a quite a few pains and feel just generally really uncomfortable from last night so you never know smile I watched my whole family getting drunk two weeks ago at my cousin's wedding fed up too. Lasted til about 10pm, party pooper that I am.

Going to spend some precious time with my son today and spoil him rotten so hope everyone has a lovely day (and maybe some with good news later??) x

CluelessMama Sat 29-Sep-12 10:21:21

Congrats on new arrivals!
Squidkid and Polly - I'm now 40 + 7 and I've been so much more up and down emotionally over the past week than at any other point in pregnancy, makes me feel a bit unhinged at times to be honest!
Yesterday was probably the worst yet. Had MW appointment first thing, expecting to have a sweep and make an appointment for another sweep two/three days later, along with the usual checks and chat about what's going on. It was MW I hadn't met before, ran through the usual checks as at every appointment over previous months, then went to make a phone call and came back with a booking for induction on Tuesday! I was completely thrown, managed to stay quite calm while I asked A LOT of questions about induction, but she could see that this wasn't the conversation I was expecting.
I'm seeing MWs in one NHS Trust area but will deliver in another, and I think a lot of the confusion stems from the fact that they follow different procedures. While I was expecting two sweeps before I would be booked for induction approx 40 + 14, the hospital where I am delivering induce at 40 + 10, which for me equals Tuesday. There's a lot about being induced that makes me feel really anxious, so to suddenly have a date sooner than I was expecting made me feel really stressed.
MW had already told me that she felt my previously well positioned baby had turned so that their back was to my side, and while I had been told at last two appointments that the head was mostly engaged, it seems it is now mostly free. Neither of these things would be an issue for induction, but it was suggested that I need to try to turn baby a bit if I'm to go into labour spontaneously, and that now has to happen against a deadline of Tuesday.
When I finally fessed up that I'd been expecting a sweep, the MW was happy to do one, carried out internal exam but couldn't do sweep as my cervix has not done ANY of what it should be doing to get ready for labour. If baby was fully engaged, the head pushing on the cervix might help my body figure out what it should be doing, but otherwise nothing I can do.
On the positive side, I'm well, baby is well and by the end of the appointment I had answers to all my questions and we know more about what is going on.
On the negative side, if nothing happens this weekend, and lets be honest it's looking unlikely, I have to go to the big hospital on Tuesday to be examined and monitored. They will expect to be doing induction, I was told I can be examined to see what's going on and then discuss delaying induction for a couple of days, but think I'll need to be firm if I really want to go against their policy. Lots to think about.
Meantime my OH is really sensibly saying "don't worry about Tuesday yet, just do what you can each day to change baby's position"...so I walked two miles yesterday, swam 25 lengths and have a serious crick in my neck from watching TV on my hands and knees last night!! In low moments I get really blue thinking about Tuesday and can't think about anything else, to the point that I even reversed into a bollard when I was leaving the swimming pool yesterday afternoon!! In the sane moments I can remind myself that when I'm holding my baby this will all be a distant memory, whether I'm induced or not. This is just a few days, being a mum is forever, that is definitely the bigger picture I have to cling to.
funchum I hope your midwife appointment went better than mine?!!

PollyIndia Sat 29-Sep-12 10:21:25

Ah right. Sounds like you have exactly the right strategy then.
And here's hoping it all happens for you tonight
But either way, you will have given it your best shot and if the baby is meant to come out through the sunroof, then that is obviously how it is meant to be. xx

My midwife has just been. I LOVE the homebirth midwives. They are both just the nicest women you could ever meet and I just feel totally confident in their care. Baby's head is defiintely in pelvis and maybe engaging she thought, so that is good.

But she said I am not allowed to go into labour this weekend as she has other births on - it's funny, that's released me from my slightly over-emotional and antsy feelings of wanting to be in labour and I feel happy and calm again.... for now

So I will be 40+4 by Monday and then the baby can come any time he/she wants.

PollyIndia Sat 29-Sep-12 10:24:12

Cross posted CluelessMama. You have hit the nail on the head I think, that this is such a short time of frustration and anxiety - you will be holding your baby in no time at all and none of this will matter. I am so impressed with your superwoman approach to it through.

However the baby comes out is the right way as that is what happened.

And will you all remind me of that in 10 days time when I am in the same boat?!

xx

CluelessMama Sat 29-Sep-12 10:45:18

Polly good hear your homebirth midwives are lovely, sounds all sounds fab.
Laughed out loud when you said I have a 'superwoman approach'...not feeling at all like a 'superwoman' but you're a gem for saying it cos it made me smile!!

YompingJo Sat 29-Sep-12 11:16:50

Clueless, just wanted to post to say that you DO NOT HAVE TO AGREE TO INDUCTION AT 40+10. It might be hospital policy but it's YOUR body and YOUR baby. You have the right to say no, please don't feel like you are powerless here. If it's a decision you are happy with then by all means go for it but do not feel that you HAVE to go with it. By the sounds of it from your attempted sweep, your body is not ready yet, and this is the problem with induction and the reason it can (as I understand it) lead to longer, more painful labours and ultimately the possibility of more intervention - it is trying to get a process started without the body agreeing to it in the first place.

It's great that you asked lots of questions but it might be worth asking one more: what happens if I refuse to be induced?

If I am sounding over-militant and this is not what you want to hear then please tell me to bog off! It's just personal bugbear that women feel they have to do what they are told by medical professional , when birth is a natural process that has gone on for aeons before hospitals took control of it all.

<performs triple-pike dismount form high horse>. OK, rant over. But just do know that you have choices. Sending you thanks for the stress.

Also, AIMS have guidelines that it might be helpful to read and wave at the midwife - I'll see if I can find some online for you.

YompingJo Sat 29-Sep-12 11:19:43

It is NICE I meant, not AIMS. Guidance here.

Couple of key phrases:

*You should be offered a membrane sweep
at your 40 and 41 week antenatal appointments during your first
pregnancy, or your 41 week antenatal appointment if you have had a
baby before. If labour does not start after this, you can ask for additional
membrane sweeps.*

*You should be given plenty of time to discuss induction with your partner
or family before making a decision, and your healthcare professionals
should support you in whatever decision you make. If you choose not to
go ahead with induction, your midwife or obstetrician will discuss your
care options with you.*

I'll leave you in peace now blush

CluelessMama Sat 29-Sep-12 11:52:51

YompingJo - I don't think you sound militant at all and totally agree with and appreciate what you have said. Very reassured to read your views and feel that I'm not mad!! It's all about the importance of being informed. I asked what if I don't want induction on Tuesday, and was told I still have to go to hospital an hour away and be examined by them, and discuss the issue with them (couldn't just make appointment to be examined with local MW again). If I say no to induction, MW thought they would want to monitor me in the days that follow. She said local MWs would happily do that, but hospital might want me to keep going back there to be checked.
As you say, if body isn't ready on Tuesday it would seem to me that induction will be a longer and more unpleasant process as they try to bring every aspect of labour on artificially, so I'd be inclined to say no. On the other hand, if an internal exam on Tuesday shows progress from yesterday, then things are heading the right direction and I'd be inclined to say no to induction as I'd have evidence of things happening naturally.
Given how keen I have been for baby to appear it seems entirely crackers to be contemplating choosing to delay things!! I feel, though, that all NHS information suggests that there are potentially issues if pregnancy goes beyond 42 weeks, and this is the date other Trust areas work with, so asking at 40 +10 to be given 2/3/4 more days shouldn't be a problem, and if we get to 42 weeks we discuss induction again.
Also have to be open to the fact that if there are health concerns for me or baby I'll say yes to induction. And if I get totally fed up maybe at some point I'll completely change my mind and just want baby in my arms! And maybe something will happen before Tuesday?!!

Orenishii Sat 29-Sep-12 12:23:23

Pollyindia homebirth midwives are lovely! I went to check out our local MLU as a sorta "if I end wanting to go in" kind of thing. In front of about 30 other women at the talk, I sorta mentioned an HB was my actual choice - I got two very enthusiastic "Good girl! Is it your first baby? GOOD GIRL!!" from the MW giving the talk.

Aside from the girl bit, I felt very proud and it really validated my choice, and gave me a lot of confidence.

JessTT Sat 29-Sep-12 12:48:15

Hi Ladies,
I've been popping back often to see how you are all doing and just wanted to say I think you are all wonderful and have fantastic attitudes! It is hard going over that annoying due-date.....seems to have a huge emotional effect for most people (me included) but just hang on in there!

I felt like I was nowhere near giving birth until my waters went which just goes to show you can feel like it's never gonna happen one minute, then suddenly be in the middle of giving birth the next. Whenever and however it happens you will have your snuggly bundles soon. Although my home waterbirth was incredible, my first birth which was long, and ended up in hospital at the end was also incredible and both experiences special in their own way....

We decided on the name Annie in the end for our little girl....she is now 5 days old and extremely chilled....she barely lost any of her birth weight and is now busy getting porky :-)

Sending you lots of positive thoughts.....keep smiling, you're doing fab!
Look forward to all the birth stories soon xxx

Mikyahrose Sat 29-Sep-12 15:49:44

Hey everyone.

Had my second sweep this morning and the mw was very positive the labour will start before the weekend is over. She said he's now engaged and my cervix is lovely and soft 'like a blamange'. smile

So fingers crossed now, and if it doesnt happen, then i'm off to be induced monday morning anyway.

milk Sat 29-Sep-12 16:01:55

Good luck Mikyahrose - sending many going into labour vibes your way smile

I'm 39+4 today, and had my first sweep smile It was uncomfortable, but not screaming painful which was nice smile

firstbubba Sat 29-Sep-12 16:06:17

Waves

Had my second sweep Thursday and no change here at all apart from having the cold which is making me even more miserable. Booked in for Monday afternoon anyhooo.

I agree milk was uncomfortable but nothing more than that thankfully

whenhenshaveteeth Sat 29-Sep-12 18:03:28

Congratulations paperclips and turquoise! How lovely!

Milkahorse I'm crossing my fingers that the second sweep will work, go for a long walk and imagine your baby coming.

I'm 40+1 today and have had a few tightenings but nothing more. I've got a sweep booked for wednesday and I have a feeling I will still be pregnant on wednesday. I'm supposed to be the first of my friends to give birth but have the feeling I'll be the last. I'm ok about it for the moment but will get nervous when they start talking induction, I was induced last time and really don't want to happen again.

Got to rush, DS is being a little monkey! Sending lots of labour vibes your way ladies - don't forget to have a curry tonight!

Mikyahrose Sat 29-Sep-12 18:11:31

Not about babies, but whenhens your addaption of my name really made me and dp chuckle. grin

Ooo and a little about babies (and because i just spotted the perfect smiley) the midwife instructed me to have a glass of wine and chill out this evening. Yey!! smile wine

funchum8am Sat 29-Sep-12 18:13:55

No news here yet. I had an hour of pains at around 3.45am but nowt since. I went to a sling library meet and have had instruction on how to use a wrap sling I have rented so at least it's been a productive day.

I think I am looking at induction on Tuesday now but have made my peace with that.

The MW I saw ten days ago said induction had to be on the labour ward, but the one yesterday said they may agree to move me to the MW led unit if induction leads to good regular contractions first time. I forgot to ask whether I can labour in water if induced though. Weird how you can never get a straight answer!

paperclips Sat 29-Sep-12 18:23:25

Thanks everyone for all the congratulations messages and I hope you get to meet your babies soon.

We got home last night, very happy to be back.

I think it was a good brisk walk on Wednesday that worked for me! The tightenings I'd been having all week got much stronger and by midnight I knew it was the start- although I kept it to myself- didn't tell dh I'd been up all night until 5am. I didn't get a wink of sleep, contractions were every 5 minutes from about 4am when I posted on here, but not very painful.

Rand the maternity unit at about 7.30am for advice because I had been told to try and go in earlier because I needed antibiotics at least 4 hours before birth, for the group b strep. "But your first labour will take much longer then 4 hours" .....so they all told me...

Rang again later as much stronger, and was told to get community midwife to assess me. So I managed to see the communicty midwife at midday by which time I was in lots of pain and quite tearful. She confirmed I was 3cm dilated and range the labour ward, and sent me down so I jumped straight in a taxi. DH found time to make himself a sandwich!

I had planned for a water birth but as I arrived at the MLU at about 12.30 my waters broke and had meconium in. So I was transferred down the corridor chugging on my gas and air, to the consultant led unit for monitoring. At this point I started really hammering the gas and air and it is all a blur after that. I was kneeling on a mat. I was examined and was 5cm. Around that time I started begging for an epidural, as there was no let up between contractions, they were constant! Really soon afterwards, I was told I was 8cm! I was still waiting for my epidural. I believe the anaesthetist was there but then I was fully dilated and everyone was asking if I was ready to push. I wasn't quite ready. But I remember realising I could probably do it without, and wanted to as, I had always intended to be on all fours or upright as possible. However....just then the baby's heart rate dropped, emergency alarm was pulled, and the next thing I knew it was "we've got to get this baby out" and a registrar appeared to get him out with forceps. I don't remember her at all but DH tells me she was totally brilliant. Within half an hour little Noah had been delivered safely onto my tummy at 3.30pm and he was absolutely fine, and super doctor was stitching me up. Had to stay for 24 hours to keep an eye on him. But the post-natal ward was great.

So from being at home 3cm, to baby in arms with epesiotomy and forceps, in 3 and half hours with just gas and air...blimey I'm hardcore!

It was all a blur like I'd been out on the vodka and dh had to fill in a lot of bits that I didn't remember!

A thing I would say to any first time mums who are anxious about having to stay in hospital rather than going straight home. I found it brilliant and I'm really glad I did. The midwives were so helpful, but never in your face, they were really approachable and if baby was screaming in the night they'd ask if you were alright without making you feel judged. It was great for getting to grips with feeding, as you could just buzz for them if you wanted to check baby was latched on alright. It was just good to have them there to ask "is this normal".

OK sorry to fill up the "I'm still pregnant" thread with my birth story....I know what its like. Just happy thoughts to you all... it will happen, you'll have your beautiful baby before you know it. And don't worry about not getting the birth experience you wanted, plans are made to be changed and when your little one is safely in your arms it doesn't matter how they got there.

funchum8am Sat 29-Sep-12 18:25:02

cluelessmama I feel exactly as you do about induction. I am also booked for Tuesday (will be 40+12) and was thinking of postponing til 14 days over. However now I have had that date in my mind for a while, and have been reassured that I can delay if I want to, and am really uncomfortable, I think I am going to go ahead on Tuesday. However if I feel things may be starting naturally (eg more tightenings etc) I do feel confident enough to argue for waiting.

Forgot to say, had my first sweep yesterday which was uncomfortable but not really painful BUT delayed by the fire alarm going off just as the MW was putting on her glove! I ended up in the car park, with no knickers on, for ten minutes!!!

PollyIndia Sat 29-Sep-12 19:52:58

Ha cluelessmama! Glad to be of service smile It does sound like an impressive level of activitY!

Mikyahrose (I agree milkahorse is a good adapation!), sounds very promising. Fingers crossed.

I had my mw appointment today at 40+2 but she didn't offer me a sweep nor did I want one. I might take one in 8 days to avoid induction but with the homebirth midwives, they don't offer you an induction appointment until 42 weeks then it's up t you if you take it as they are totally happy to discuss expectant management, and happy to do homebirth if you go into spontaneous labour, even late. I was really pleased when she told me that as makes me feel like my options are open in a way that I don't think I would be here if I was still under hospital care. As a few of you have said, I may well be desperate to get the baby out by that stage so grateful of the appointment but it's nice to know it wouldn't be a battle if that weren't the case. Anyway, hopefully baby comes before but if not Funchum8am, at least you will have your baby within days. I have read loads of positive induction stories.

Orenishii sounds like you've had good experience with the homebirth team too. My mw said today that most of the mums she sees round here are first timers. People say I am brave, but I've looked into it all and I am 5 mins from the hospital so I feel happy with my decision.

Paperclips, congrats again. Fast labour! Sounds like the midwives etc were all lovely for you. As you say, it's all about a healthy baby, however he or she gets here.

Love the name Annie JessTT.

The mw appointment this am really calmed me. I had a lovely day playing in the park with my niece, having lunch with friends and wandering round the william morris gallery and the park and now got curry coming and xfactor with the parents. Then we are going for a huge roast 6 + 2 babies tomorrow and I am going to attempt the gym. I love this autumnal weather smile

Have a nice evening all of you. Hoping all of you ready for labour finally get going tonight.

xx

whenhenshaveteeth Sun 30-Sep-12 08:39:37

Mikyahrose, sorry to have got your name wrong! I'm not the brightest at the moment... Having said that, I think you should consider a name change, milkahorse would suit you I reckon!

Paperclips your birth story sounds stressful but it also sound like you coped very well, well done.

Funchum I reckon you're going to be next and that you won't need the induction, just walk and visualise your baby. I know I keep saying that and it might be a lot of rubbish but I think it's worth trying. I do hypnobirthing and they recommend visualising a budding rose flowering to ripen your cervix - again could be a lot of gobbledyggok but it doesn't cost anything trying.
Also, meant to say, your kinky session in the car park made me laugh (a shiver a bit!) grin

milk any progress?

Polly several of my friends had homebirths for their first time and it was fine. I think one of the most important things in labour is to be comfortable with your environment and the people there so if for you it's at home, it's the right decision. Plus, as you said, you're 5 min from hospital so if you need to be transferred it'll be easy.

Literally nothing from me. I slept really well - I do that al the time: I have a bad night and then sleep really well. I can't see this baby coming out any time soon tbh. In my head it'll be wednesday or thursday after the sweep. I'm planning on doing my cleaning, going for a long walk and going swimming after. I often feel like he's prodding me down there and have some tightenings but nothing that really hurt.

Right, need to think of something to do with DS today bearing in mind it's raining - aaargh!

Mikyahrose Sun 30-Sep-12 12:13:20

Feel a bit periody painy this morning - so hopefully thats a good sign, off to a car boot in a bit, then food shopping - which is a difficult one this week, trying to think how much to buy and what food will keep better than others, and trying to to think of quick easy meals and snacks. We're thinking we deffo wont be home for tea Monday night, but could be back home tuesday. Or if it gets dragged out, might not even be back till the weekend. Who knows eh!

What we do know though is that this time tomorrow, we'll deffo be at the hospital and hopefully in labour!

Oh my goodness looks like there will be lots of obstinate, didn't want to come out little ones making an appearance tomorrow and Tuesday.

I agree paperclips with not worrying if things don't go to plan, all that matters is your own and baby's safety. All my options, except following a medicalised route, went out the window last time which is why I kind of laugh when faced with writing a birth plan, and then don't bother other than vit k, skin to skin and breast feeding. I think you sound like you have a really positive attitude regarding your birth that didn't exactly go how you anticipated it. Well done!

How are you today funchum and milk ?

I'm not bothering with a food shop Mikyah . My freezer and cupboards are fully stocked and I can do an internet shop when I get back or send other people out to skivvy for me. Not sure when I'll be home myself. It's normally three days they keep you in after cs but I know my friend got home earlier than that after her second. Saying that I'm in no rush. I've never breast fed before, expressed and then bottle fed ebm to ds as he couldn't latch, so like the idea of mastering that before I get home.

With regards to induction I know my friend has turned hers down so far and is just doing sweeps with daily monitoring.

Amyway may get back to the housework as it won't do itself.

squidkid Sun 30-Sep-12 13:33:32

Just to let you all know I delivered a gorgeous baby girl at 5.30 this morning at home, after a tough and lengthy labour. Waters broke midnight friday. I was hoping so much for a home birth that I feel a bit bad saying I found it incredibly tough!!

truthfully I feel a bit shellshocked (and haven't slept since thursday now!) but am here with baby Jess in my arms and that makes it all ok. lots of love.

PollyIndia Sun 30-Sep-12 16:22:00

Congratulations squidkid!! Well done you. You must be so pleased. Sounds long and tough though. Eek!

But brilliant news.

Mikyahrose and Ballroomblitz, good luck for your inductions.

My family all just left after staying the weekend and I had a little glass of wine at lunchtime and now feel a bit meh.... Just realising that this will be tough, waiting for the baby to come and then doing it on my own when he/she is here.

Whenhenshaveteeth, hope you had a nice day with your ds. Homebirth is appealing but will have to see how it all plays out!

Mikyahrose Sun 30-Sep-12 18:12:56

Congrats squidkid. smile

Think things may be starting here. Had period pains all day, which now seem to be getting stronger. Think i've just wiped away a bit more plug too.

Just cooking tea, then gonna have a bath.

The car is already packed up ready for the morning, so we're ready to whenever really.

Ooooooo!!!

FirstTimeForEverything Sun 30-Sep-12 18:25:03

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Congrats squidkid . I hope you feel a bit better about the birth once you had caught up on some sleep. Personally I think you sound like a trooper.

Have been getting contractions from about 6.30 tonight. 30-50 second ones every 1 to 4 minutes so not totally regular yet but between that and a bit of spotting (and toilet clearing out - tmi sorry) it's getting promising that I might not be making my section tomorrow. Had a bath which helped a little and took some paracetamol which didn't at all. Ow, ow, ow. Remind me why I went for vbac again grin

PollyIndia Sun 30-Sep-12 20:43:01

Ooh, really hope this is it Ballroomblitz xx

paperclips Mon 01-Oct-12 07:57:55

Good luck ballroomblitz! Hope you get your lovely baby snuggles soon. X

whenhenshaveteeth Mon 01-Oct-12 08:23:12

OMG! So much action!!

Congratulations Skidkid!! thanks

Ballroom, FirstTime and Miky good luck, it all sounds promising and I hope you'll soon snuggle with babies.

I have no sign apart from a weird calm feeling that descended upon me yesterday evening. I watched lots of birthing things on youtube, then bought another hypnobirthing album to put on my ipod for the birth. I woke up at 4am (thanks DS!), listened to my hypnobirthing tape and because I couldn't go back to sleep I got up, finished the last bit of work I had to do, made a list of the bag I need to pack for DS, a list of a snack stuff I want to put in his bag, wrote some instructions for the friend who's going to look after him and all that while listening to birth affirmations...

I feel ready now.

ST82 Mon 01-Oct-12 09:04:43

40 +4!!! Im ready to go!!! Come on baby!!!

Best of luck to all of you for whom things are about to happen! So exciting!!! I will pray for you and i am sure all will go well!!!

Has anyone ignored their birth plan till now? I have but think it might be a good idea to finish it off today!! Which is exactly what i am going to do!! Everything else is ready to go.....

Much love!!!

Orenishii Mon 01-Oct-12 10:01:31

OMG SQUIDKID!!!!

Congratulations!!! Sounds like you did brilliantly - what a trooper you are! That is a marathon!

funchum8am Mon 01-Oct-12 10:12:26

squidkid congratulations!! Sounds like you did brilliantly! Enjoy the cuddles with your gorgeous daughter.

Still absolutely nothing doing here - people have even stopped ringing/emailing to check up on me (save family!). Looks like I am going to go all the way to induction tomorrow. I have decided to accept induction but may not let them put me on a continuous monitor unless I can stay mobile as I am horrified at the idea of being flat on a bed to labour. I hope I can still go to the midwife led unit and/or labour in water but you can't have everything!

My mum is visiting today which is lovely so I will be busy most of the day, then can do last bits of preparation tonight with DH (ie make sure I have nice snacks to take to hospital!) And try to get some sleep!!!

Good luck to everyone else who is being induced today and those who are still waiting - it has to happen eventually!

Had a baby girl this morning 7lb 12 and managed to get the vbac I wanted. Got to hospital at half ten last night and hooked up to monitors to find I was still having irregular but strong contractions that the midwife said is a good indication of early labour. Think all of us were surprised to find I was 6cms especially as I was calm and had had no pain relief. Everyone was really supportive and encouraging of my decision to try vbac even though I had cs booked for next morning and could have gone for one.

So straight up the stairs to the delivery suite where I had gas and air and some time later diamorphine. Didnt feel like any of it helped but honestly didn't feel like I couldn't cope at any stage bar the last two cms which was hard going. Pushing was a strange experience but escaped any stitches even though I have some deep labial lacerations where she came out with her hands at her face - and long fingernails. Ooch. All in all 11and a half hours start to finish and feel battered and bruised but a really positive experience.

Good luck to all who are still waiting xx

Orenishii Tue 02-Oct-12 06:31:23

Congratulations ballroomblitz!!! Well done grin Sounds like a great birth, and really glad it went how you wanted. To get to 6cms without pain relief - hero!

Glad it all went well and you and you are your little girl are cuddling smile It must have been quick once you got to hospital, no?

Congratulations again!

I'm where y'all were a couple of weeks ago - 38 weeks today, Braxton Hicks all over the place, body emptying itself and constant dreaming I'm in labour hmm

Good luck to all being induced today!

PollyIndia Tue 02-Oct-12 07:14:03

Woohoo!! That is brilliant news Ballroomblitz. Congratulations!

Any news mikyahrose, funchum8am or firsttime? Hope the inductions have all gone well.

Whenhenshaveteeth, how are things? Are you in for induction too?

ST82 we are the same - 40+5 now. Zero signs. All the signs I did have last week like period pains and backache have gone. So I will be here for a while longer. Went to the gym and did lots of walking yesterday, which probably hasn't done anything to speed things up but made me feel better. And today going to preg yoga, for another walk and meeting a girl my midwife hooked me up with, who lives 2 mins walk away and is due in a few days. She says she likes to pair up new mums. Isn't that good!

So I am trying to keep busy and stay positive.... I just wish I had some signs of my body preparing! But it will happen when it happens, and certainly within 10 days which is nothing in the grand scheme of things.

Orenishii, you sound like you have some promising signs!

Orenishii Tue 02-Oct-12 07:39:54

It seems though, judging from this thread, you get all the promising signs...and then nothing, it goes quiet on the Western front wink

Even Drew Barrymore has had her baby. I am sure I was pregnant before her! Does it not seem like celebrities suddenly seem to have their babies before everyone else? What do they know that we don't??

We tested the birth pool last night and had to leave it up all night. This morning, my cat has the devil in her - she keeps leaping in, running around it, running to the middle where I can't lean over and grab her. Much growling at me for trying to remove her, and now she's sitting next to it, like a child saying "I'm not doing anything, I'm just sitting.". Yeah, right.

PollyIndia Tue 02-Oct-12 07:50:33

Have you got 1 cat orenishii? I have a cat I have had for over 10 years, and am a bit worried about how she is going to be. She has always ruled the roost in our house! I started closing the bedroom door and few months ago to get her used to it before the baby came, and whereas before she wasn't that bothered about sleeping in the bedroom, now she isn't allowed, she is desperate to, and every night comes up and cries and scratches, and waits until I go to the loo (every hour) then dashes in.
I have managed to keep her out until 6 for the last few weeks, and figure I will be up by the with a new baby (assuming I sleep at all initially!). She also lies right by my pillow and has shown zero interest in the co-sleeper cot, which is good.

Do you think they can sense what is going on? It is such a basic process, pregnancy and birth, I wonder if they can. She has been much more clingy.

Sorry for the digression!

Orenishii Tue 02-Oct-12 08:02:47

Yep, just the one - and she's very much the PFB wink She even comes up for snuggles onto my chest and nuzzles into my hair, just like how you'd hold a baby. She's completely obsessed with me, and more so since pregnancy - when she's in, she's my little shadow. I've had a few emotional "what will become of her!" wobbles but in reality, she is an independent little beast that loves to be outside for about 16 hours a day. It's me that will need the period of adjustment!

I'm fairly relaxed about her being around the baby though - we've had the cot bed up for weeks and I tend to think with cats, if you try to stop/prevent them from doing something/being somewhere, it becomes the most intriguing thing in the world, and ALL they want to do is what you don't want them to! A shut door is the most enticing thing to a cat - all they want is to be on the other side of it. Personally, I'd not shut her out - take the sudden mystery away, let her come and go, and she'll soon be as disinterested as before.

I think I might get some Feliaway, just to keep her chilled but apart from that, I tend to think normality is good - for everyone!

PollyIndia Tue 02-Oct-12 08:08:41

She is used to the door being shut when I go to bed now even if she doesn't like it. I don't think she would do anything to the baby but I do worry a bit that she might feel displaced. I am sure it will all work out!

I've been using feliway for a few weeks.

I wonder how she will be if I do get my homebirth!

squidkid Tue 02-Oct-12 08:13:58

Thanks for the congrats guys! Have been thinking of you all.

Polly/Orenishii - my cats were at the home birth, they weren't that fussed in all fairness! One of them kept trying to get in the pool. The other one tried to eat the placenta. (I was flat on my back exhausted and no one else had noticed and I was just saying "cat... placenta... stop the cat.." - hilarious in retrospect grin)

They seem a little jealous of the baby now but still coming for cuddles and strokes.

whenhenshaveteeth Tue 02-Oct-12 08:23:39

Congratulations Ballroom!! thanks Sounds like you did really well, 6cm without pain relief is great!

Polly I fee a bit like you, 40+3 today and no sign of anything. I have a sweep tomorrow, which I hope will kick start things. I don't mind still being pregnant but I don't want to be induced again so I dreading going too far. I'm going to go for long walks after the sweep tomorrow and will bounce on my ball to see if that helps. Might go swimming too.

We have a cat and had 2 when DS was born. I think they could tell something was up when I was pregnant. When we came back from hospital, we took DS in the garden, put him on the floor in his car seat, they both came over, had a sniff and left... They seem to have understood he was part of the family, they never tried to "sleep on his face" and stifle him as everyone was warning me, they were more scared of his screaming the place down if anything!

They were used to sleeping with us too though and we did the same as you Polly, it took a while but they finally got the message - btw, we did it more for us than the baby since DS went in his own room quite early on. We just didn't want to be potentially woken up by a baby and 2 cats!

PollyIndia Tue 02-Oct-12 08:36:21

Squidkid, I just laughed a lot at the thought of the cat trying to eat the placenta! Good to hear they are ok.

I completely agree Whenhenshaveteeth - feel fine still being pregnant, but I don't want to be induced. Though by end of next week, I will probably be begging for it! It is also my birthday when I turn 42 weeks pregnant. Not sure if that's really how I want to spend my birthday. Last year I was in berlin at berghain until about midday on the sunday, which is this mental club. Not sure I would EVER have predicted where I would be this year then.

Glad to hear another positive cats and babies story too smile

funchum8am Tue 02-Oct-12 08:41:52

Just rang the ward and have to call back at 9 or after when they will know if they have a bed for me. I am not sure what I will do if they say they don't!!

Huge congratulations ballroom it sounds like you were a real trooper!

funchum8am Tue 02-Oct-12 10:57:32

No beds available yet so I have to wait and they will call when one comes up. Should be today though.

ST82 Tue 02-Oct-12 12:44:59

PollyIndia im thinking of you..... No progress here what so ever! I sometimes think this baby will never come!!! smile))))

Update on *Milk'8 !

She's been admitted to hospital to be induced as they suspect pre-eclampsia...she's waiting for a bed on the very full labour ward then they'll start induction...but they've shut the labour ward but as she's already in the hospital she can stay grin

She has no internet (She's currently moaning about it on the phone to me ) and no tv wink

But Mini-Milk will soon be on his way! Hurrah! grin

And yes, she bemoaned the lack of internet/tv before the bemoaning of no bed

The woman has her priorities right wink

Update on Milk !

She's been admitted to hospital to be induced as they suspect pre-eclampsia...she's waiting for a bed on the very full labour ward then they'll start induction...but they've shut the labour ward but as she's already in the hospital she can stay grin

She has no internet (She's currently moaning about it on the phone to me ) and no tv wink

But Mini-Milk will soon be on his way! Hurrah! grin

And yes, she bemoaned the lack of internet/tv before the bemoaning of no bed

The woman has her priorities right wink

PollyIndia Tue 02-Oct-12 13:35:25

Funchum8am - how frustrating. Hope it is today. Either way, you are there - even if it is tomorrow, 1 more nights sleep then it is baby time!

Unlike for us ST82 - though I shouldn't speak for you! I did just do a move in pregnancy yoga where i could feel the baby's head right on my cervix, but seems to have retreated. And nothing else. So looks like we are in the same boat!

I have heard breast-pumping can help. I am definitely not ready to do that yet, but if the baby isn't here by Monday, then I might try it just to avoid induction. Doesn't affect the colostrum for the baby apparently.

Until then, I am making lots of plans for every day. I WILL enjoy my last week of non-parenthood. Screw you hospitable uterus!

PollyIndia Tue 02-Oct-12 13:37:19

Ihopeyousteponalegopiece - thanks for the update. GOOD LUCK to milk.

PollyIndia Tue 02-Oct-12 13:38:22

Hope all the inductions go smoothly too - funchum, milk, firsttime mikyahrose xx

ST82 Wed 03-Oct-12 00:33:04

I finally officially changed hospital at 40 +5!! Cant believe i left it this late and too many people will think im crazy, but i just could not go ahead eith my original choice! Visited the new hospital today for a "booking" appointment and also had a routine MW session. Feeling so much more confident and comfortable now. Im really pleased! On the other hand, my baby is not engaged yet!!! What is he doing? Seems he is doing everything except for the one most important thing, which is to come out smile)

Next MW appointment booked for next tue, and if things have not progressed by then, induction will commence on Wednesday at 40 +13! I hope so much something will happen by then though! I really am not keen on being induced. In the mean time, i have refused sweeps, onthe basis that thy hurt and there is no guarantee they will work!

On the more practicle side of things, i have a badly trapped nerve which is massively effecting my mobility and generally my well being. I can hardly walk cause it is so painful!! I just feel soooo lazy now! The only positive thing is that i have stayed active throughout my pregnancy, and whilst it is not great that i am not able to be so active now, all the walking etc i have done, will still come handy.

Regardinv sleep, i am really struggling with turning and changing sides! The other night i had to literally sit up, turn my top half of my body to the other side and then lie down again!

I wish all of you who are in labor or about to go into labor the very best oc luck!!!

PollyIndia Wed 03-Oct-12 07:26:49

If that is what you feel is right, then totally sensible and not crazy at all ST82!

Having said all along I didn't want a waterbirth, last night I bought a birth pool. Also felt a bit ridiculous seeing as will be 41 weeks tomorrow with zero signs of labour being imminent, but am trying to stay positive!

Sorry to hear about your trapped nerve. That sounds horrible. Is it pregnancy related? Hope you aren't in too much pain.

Will we have any babies today I wonder....

ST82 Wed 03-Oct-12 08:10:32

trapped nerve is horrible and totally pregnancy related..... It started hurting around 20-22 werks but it has got worse ad thd baby has got bigger.. Now it is so painful and effecting my mobility.. sad

Good luck with the birthing pool.. I live with the hope that it is possible not to have imminent signs of labor but still go into labor eventually... 41 weeks tomorrow for me as well and here is to staying positive.

Btw my bump gets really really hard at times!!! I cant help but feel sorry for the little one sometimes as i feel he is realy struggling for any space in there whatsoever... On the hand, we had a relatively good sleep last night...

YompingJo Wed 03-Oct-12 09:14:08

Hi all,

Variously 39+5, 38+5 or 37+5 today depending on which due date I choose to believe, and so over being pregnant!

ST82, I have known people, both in RL and online who have gone from zero signs of labour to holding their baby in the space of a day, so it does happen. Sorry to hear about your pain from trapped nerve, not what you need on top of all other pregnancy discomforts but I guess at least you know it should disappear as soon as the baby is born? And well done for changing hospital, sounds like a good move.

Pollyindia, I went to a prenatal exercise class at my gym on Monday and when we did walking lunges, I couldn't lunge very far down on the left hand side as baby's head was in the way! Really weird! But like you, nothing else since than, although I'm not quite overdue yet. Another vote for birthing pools here, hoping for a homebirth in the pool, have visions of serene labour and birth in our living room with low lights, warm water and hippy music - ha ha ha, reckon I have an almighty wake up call coming pretty soon! You could always sit in the pool for a bit with some clary sage oil in the water - apparently can help kick off contractions.

No news from Milk yet!

PollyIndia Wed 03-Oct-12 09:41:51

I only just ordered the pool yompingjo so it isn't here yet. But I have the same vision now I have ordered it!

I am not actually over being pregnant, but I definitely want to meet my baby now. And I don't especially want to get to 42 weeks. If I knew it would all start of its own accord in the next week, I would be perfectly happy. And I guess there is every chance of that. I must think positive! That has to be my mantra.

ST82 could the bump being hard be braxtons? That is a sign of something at least! I agree, the trapped nerve makes everything much harder. Well, neither of us have long at all. And I know it could happen at any time.

No news from any of the people being induced. I hope they all have lovely snuggly babies now.

I am off for a walk in the forest - make the most of the sunshine!

Milk is still waiting to be induced sad

If this baby is half as lazy stubborn as his mother then this could take a while wink

Spice17 Wed 03-Oct-12 10:41:16

Hello, can I join? 39+4 today and getting desperate (and I know a lot of you have waited much longer)

I could describe how I feel but WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!! somehow covers it better grin

DH not helping with his own desperation for DD to arrive and ringing me from work to see if anything is happening at least twice a day (Does he not think I would contact him if it was??)

Felt both heartened and like crying my eyes out reading this thread. So immobile now and fed up but I know I'll have her in 2 weeks ish I suppose.

PollyIndia Wed 03-Oct-12 10:56:37

Ihopeyousteponalegopiece, jeez, poor Milk. Send her our best.

Hello Spice17!! Yes, not long for any of us, however much it might feel like we will be pregnant forever! All our babies will be here soon - these are the last days of freedom (well, as free a you can be when you are extremely pregnant!).

Did a 3.5 mile stomp round the forest. Next up, I am going to meet my friend for lunch at Nandos. Extra hot chicken and the XXX hot sauce. I know none of this stuff really works but sod it.

PollyIndia Wed 03-Oct-12 11:50:58

Spice and ST82 (and whenhenshaveteeth - are you still waiting?), I just read this article on being 'overdue'. Interesting I thought.

http://m.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2010/oct/01/pregnant-for-10-months?cat=lifeandstyle&type=article

blooblies Wed 03-Oct-12 12:40:20

pollyindia and ST82 I was due the same day as you. My last baby was 16 days late and I agree with much of that Guardian article. The change in how you feel after your due date has passed is always surprising, especially if you have friends who don't do long gestations! Good for you in sticking to your guns about your hospital and water birth. I am declining induction and waiting it out, but happy for sweeps to get things as primed as possible since I'm a VB2AC and really need to avoid any excuse for intervention/syntocinon. This baby will engage 1/5th if I walk for a while and it happens to be in the right place at the time. The rest of the time it is suiting itself all over the place, despite the lack of room. Hard not to get frustrated, especially as I know my cervix is soft and ready to go. Positive vibes.

Spice17 Wed 03-Oct-12 13:15:12

Interesting article, thanks. I've been getting strong, sharp, shooting pains on and off since Sunday, worse when Im moving around. Pretty sure its not contractions but is anyone else getting it or had it?i also had it few weeks back and posted. But pains are sharper now, so wondering if its am indication of labour starting? Here's hoping!

blooblies Wed 03-Oct-12 15:50:03

Spice, I've always put sharp pains down to the baby stretching ligaments that haven't been stretched yet, like when it is moving down. Labour pains are much more like period cramps which start at the back and then crawl round and up your bump, much like a wave of nausea (but sore!).

They've started milks induction!!

Mini milk is on his way!!

PoppyT Wed 03-Oct-12 16:21:25

Hi
I'm 40 + 7 & saw midwife today, baby's head engaged but midwife was unable to do sweep as cervix too far back.

I'm booked for induction on Monday which I want to avoid as this took 3 attempts with DC1 & I really don't want to be stuck in hospital that long. DC1 was never engaged so I know this baby is in a more favourable position.

Anyone else had this & any tips would be welcome.
I'm trying to walk but very uncomfortable & I've been rocking on ball.

blooblies Wed 03-Oct-12 16:40:17

Yay for Milk!
Poppy, you can choose not to be induced if you think that things are going to go naturally for you. I cleared it through speaking to the consultant midwife. They will meet with you and go over the relative risks of choosing induction or delaying induction/expectant management and you can make your choice based on what you hear. You can't be asked to undergo any procedure that you aren't happy with!

Having baby's head engaged is definitely a positive start. Could you ask MW to try another sweep before Monday? Other than that, the usual things fabled to bring on contractions such as going up and down the stairs, ball bouncing, raspberry leaf tea, clary sage oil, curry/bowel stimulation etc. can make you feel better by trying.

PoppyT Wed 03-Oct-12 17:35:11

Thanks blooblles. I've already had induction delayed to latest date that my consultant will agree due to my age, high blood pressure & needing bloods checked regularly so I know it has to happen Monday. My midwife has been great & I'll try to see her Friday for another try at sweep but my cervix was same in last pregnancy & she thinks it's just the way I am unfortunately.

I've just booked a reflexology session for tomorrow, not sure if it will work but if anything it will help to relax me a bit.

I've been drinking raspberry leaf tea so I'll keep having that & I've got chilli for tea tonight, will get a curry tomorrow. Sent my DH to get pineapple on his way home so fingers crossed I'll get things going before Monday.

Spice17 Wed 03-Oct-12 18:35:05

Cheers Blooblies, 'productive' ligament stretching it is then - have to keep positive!

Every nihgt I go to bed and think, 'could be tonight' and then wake up in a foul mood!

Good luck to all the overdue ladies xxxxx

PoppyT Wed 03-Oct-12 18:53:28

Spice17 I keep going to bed thinking the same. It's so frustrating. I'm sick of all the texts & phone calls now - people keep asking if baby has arrived yet, I know they're just excited but surely they realise I will let them know when baby is here. I wish I had a good sarcastic reply but I've taken to just ignoring anyone who asks.

PollyIndia Wed 03-Oct-12 18:55:32

Good news Milk!

Blooblies, that is it, I have been really surprised at how passing the due date has affected me. I always thought I would be more than a week past that date, yet still wake up every day thinking oh, is this the day. I've been having a nice time, walks, yoga, gym, meeting friends and having lots of little snoozes - but still, there is this underlying sense of just waiting for something. Sending you loads of positive vibes smile

PoppyT I am sorry, I know nothing so no tips, but surely baby's head being engaged is promising? Fingers crossed it starts before Monday.

Spice17 I've not had pains like that I don't think - maybe the odd sharp pain - ligaments makes sense.

I am definitely feeling more crampy tonight, but it could have been all the XXX hot sauce I had at nandos at lunchtime on top of 5 miles of walking. We shall see!

Just spoke to milk they broke her waters at 625 and are monitoring her

So its all heading in the right direction!

ST82 Wed 03-Oct-12 23:45:29

PollyIndia i am jealous of your 5 miles of walking and really disappointed with myself and the bloody trapped nerve... however, i did have an amazing day out with my mum today, i drove to see our friends and their new baby girl, which was amazing, and i have been feeling full of energy and high spirits...

around 3pm until about 7pm i have almost hourly period like cramps and lower back pains; i got really excited and i suddently felt a lot more energetic and so ready to do this now... but things have slowed down since then... which is ashame.. it is unbelievable how much much my mood has changed over the last week that i have been overdue. Agree on the calls/txt from friends and relatives, i thought it was great the first couple of days after my DD but now it is getting a bit annoying, specially as there is NO news... anyway, i have decided to take every day as it comes and just enjoy these very last few days of being pregnant...

41 weeks tomorrow!!!

best of luck to all.... much <3

PollyIndia Thu 04-Oct-12 06:54:20

Sounds like a lovely day st82. And very promising re the cramps. Any update overnight?

Totally agree with you re trying to take every day as it comes and enjoy the last bit of being pregnant smile

Lazy day today as got to wait in for birth pool and the you view installation man. Got a friend coming up for coffee though. If they all come early enough I might treat myself to one of those gel manicures. I never have manicures and my nails are dreadful. Might be a nice thing to do in the last days of pregnancy.

Any news from milk?

whenhenshaveteeth Thu 04-Oct-12 08:30:02

Morning and hello to everyone new - sorry can't be more specific due to my stupid phone...

Any news from milk? Any more twinges anyone?

Had a sweep yesterday, I'm OS ie my cervix is 1cm open but only bcs I had a child before and that it never quite closed since (charming!). My cervix was still "pretty thick" so it's not looking good. Had no show or twinges since... Off to literally walk myself into labour after I've typed this - I don't want be be induced!!!!!!!

Btw, I also tried caullophylum, clary sage, Jasmine, lavender, acupressure and bouncing on my ball...

PollyIndia Thu 04-Oct-12 08:50:09

It is a beautiful day for a walk whenhenshaveteeth. Fingers crossed it kicks things into gear.

Autumn is my favourite season

blooblies Thu 04-Oct-12 12:48:11

Off to see the consultant and be lectured to about induction...

No news from Milk yet

I texted her this morning and she's v good at getting back quickly when you text her....so am hoping the fact that she hasn't replied means she's in the throes of labour!

(Not often you wish for your friend to be in pain....hmm )

whenhenshaveteeth Thu 04-Oct-12 14:00:34

So, went on my walk - it was a beautiful day: sun shining, morning dew, smell of freshly cut grass, multi-coloured trees. I felt so relaxed and inspired to give birth, I listened to birth affirmations on a loop, surely that was going to help? Nope.... nada! I'm sure I did at least 4 to 5 miles for Pete's sake!

I'm getting worried about induction now, I'm only 40+6 but that only leaves me 6 days before they talk induction, which wasn't pretty with DS. I know you can ask for monitoring and delay things but I fear it won't be realistic to go to hospital every day with DS.

Bit sad now

Spice17 Thu 04-Oct-12 14:01:24

Afternoon ladies (lovely sunny one it is too) Just wanted to make a suggestion to all of you that might help.

I've just been for lunch with my boss and chatted to a couple of other work colleagues and it was so nice to engage my (work) brain and talk positively about being due on Sat instead of feeling like I'm constantly sat anaylysing every twinge or discussing labour and babies with all my friends who have kids. I would recommend it - and I really didn't want to go this morning.

Also, am king of wondering if Milk is my good friend who I know is in labour at the moment after being induced last night - small world if it is!

Is your friend a H who's married to a C Spice?!

Good luck to everyone on here!

I like it on this topic...I may stay despite the lack of pregnancy grin

YompingJo Thu 04-Oct-12 14:18:58

bloobies, I'm looking forward to that treat next week confused. Off to see the midwife now to argue over due date, because if I'm actually due tomorrow then I somehow magically managed to conceive before my last period and before I ovulated hmm. Wish I had worked this out a few months ago rather than a few days ago but never mind...

Spice17 Thu 04-Oct-12 14:39:08

IHYSOALP No, it isn't her then but at least I know now, thanks! smile

PollyIndia Thu 04-Oct-12 17:47:06

I agree Spice17. I worked until 2 days before my due date and meant I didn't have time to obsess about it.

It has been a surprise to me how going past the due date has left me in a weird state of (slightly obsessive!) limbo as I never expected it to bother me. I am still having a nice time and not at the get it out stage, but it is a strange time. And like all of you, I don't want to be induced, so I can see how I will get more fed up as that day approaches.

YompingJo - hope it went well with the midwife. Dates being wrong seems to be a very common reason for being wrongly thought of as 'overdue'

Whenhenshaveteeth, that does sound lovely. Hopefully it will kick the baby into gear tonight.

How did your consultant meeting go Blooblies?

Having thought I would be having a really chilled day, it's been like grand central station here. Birth pool arrived , yay, and I now have YouView (like virgin), yay, plus had visits from my bro-in-law and niece and 3 friends with babies. Everyone has just left and I am settling down with Lindor eggs and period pains excitingly. Funny how at this stage of the game you get excited about period pains!

PollyIndia Thu 04-Oct-12 17:47:34

Oh, and sending positive vibes to Milk!

FirstTimeForEverything Thu 04-Oct-12 18:07:26

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

PollyIndia Thu 04-Oct-12 18:19:41

Congratulations FirstTime. Sound like you were a warrior, and it must be wonderful to have your baby xx

funchum8am Thu 04-Oct-12 23:29:15

Congratulations firsttime
I too have finally managed to give birth; our daughter arrived at just after midnight today (thursday 4 October). Induction with propess was horrible and I had them remove the thing in the end as they wouldn't give me any pain relief beyond tablets, and examinations repeatedly showed no progress in terms of the state of my cervix. However contractions continued and when DH was back next day during visiting hours with the TENS machine I coped much better. Next exam showed I was 6cm dilated so got moved to labour ward, had nothing but gas and air til fully dilated and then an epidural as contractions slowed up and they said it could be hours still to go! The epidural wad a godsend and I ended up being prepped for a c-section, but they gave it a go with forceps first and happily that went smoothly. Am now on the postnatal ward with our lovely DD but she is not letting me sleep!

Very best of luck to everyone still waiting - I have to say if I do this again I will be refusing induction but it was still an amazing experience and well well worth it!

Mini milk is here!!

He arrived at somepoint this afternoon grin

Will let her properly announce it smile

PollyIndia Fri 05-Oct-12 07:16:54

Ah, amazing news, congrats Funchum8am and Milk. And I wonder if maybe st82 has had her baby as she has been quiet.

Funchum8am were you 42 weeks? I am 8 days over now, need to think about what I am going to do re induction. I really want this home water birth, but obviously don't want to put the baby at risk and also might be quite fed up in another 6 days.

Anyway , must be so lovely to finally have her!! Xx

whenhenshaveteeth Fri 05-Oct-12 10:35:49

Congratulations firsttime (ouch!), funchmum (what an epic!) and milk!!

Polly, I'm in the same boat as you. According to the scan date I'm 41wks today and still no real sign of anything. Got lots of snot like discharge today but no blood in it so I don't think it's that significant.

Fed up and scared of being induced. I'm going to walk some more, do some visualisation, acupressure, more clary sage and jumping up and down. I want him out!!!

funchum8am Fri 05-Oct-12 12:02:41

I was induced at 41+5 and gave birth at 42 weeks. I personally would not go for induction again but I now know for a fact that my body reacts to prostaglandin with extremely strong contractions, which others don't know. It is a risk, not a guarantee, that it could be more painful. There are risks to waiting as well, though they are small and can be mitigated by scans and monitoring after 42 weeks. It is a really personal thing!

PollyIndia Fri 05-Oct-12 12:18:15

I have just had the midwife round which has made me feel loads calmer. I am going to have a chat with the consultant about induction this weekend and they will scan me to check all ok with fluid and placenta but they will support my homebirth post 42 weeks assuming all ok. And if all not ok, then I wouldn't want to wait anyway. So that's good smile

I have booked in for acupuncture monday and might have a sweep tues or weds. Then Thurs is my birthday and I will be 42 weeks. So if I get to that day without anything happening, will need to make a call then based on how I feel and baby movements etc.

My sister had same experience as you Funchum - hyper contractions off the drip. It is a tough decision at 42 weeks though. I don't yet know what I will do. But I am very pleased you have your beautiful healthy baby! That is ultimately what all of this is about smile

Whenhenshaveteeth, that sounds like a good day of action. Let's face it, that's all any of us can do as we have zero control over this! Good luck smile

ST82 Fri 05-Oct-12 13:19:46

hello all, i am still here and still no baby!!! My trapped nerve is still causing me too much pain! 40 +8 today... or smth like that... appointment booked with midwife and consultant on Tuesday, if nothing has happened till then, we may go ahead with induction on Wednesday. I am really praying he will make a move this weekend though. My birthday is on the 7th of March so i am hoping he wants to come on the 7th of October and share the same date me me (?!?!) or maybe it's just me and my wishful thinking.

The frequency of my cramps has increased in the last couple of days and i have had more back pain, but nothing regular yet. These are all signs, i am sure, but still no sign of the real labor. My bump is quite hard, and it gets a lot harder at times, depending on the way baby positiones himself as well i guess.

As we have recently moved to our new home, my mum dropped off a few of my pre-pregnancy clothes this morning. Feeling quite optimistic as i realised there are a few things i should be able to fit in within the first 1-2 months, which is fab!

best of luck to everyone!!!

Orenishii Fri 05-Oct-12 20:16:10

Sorry everyone just have to say OMG! Just suddenly vomited and had diarrhoea, and then the bump dropped down massively and the top of my abdomen looked like it did pre-pregnancy with six pack! It's gone back up a bit now but....yay??

Sorry everyone will post less me, me, me things when the episode has passed completely!

Orenishii Fri 05-Oct-12 20:16:46

Meant to say I'm 38+4

whenhenshaveteeth Fri 05-Oct-12 20:58:26

Go orenishii, go!

Feeling a bit queasy and have some back and stomach pain - trying not to get excited!!

PollyIndia Fri 05-Oct-12 21:52:38

That sounds very exciting Orenishii - well as exciting as vomiting and diarrhoea gets! Funny how you welcome the oddest things in very late pregnancy.

And bring on the queasiness and pain whenhenshavetteeth.

ST82 - sorry to hear you are still with us though glad to have you here, if that makes sense. We are the same days so 40+9 tomorrow. I now have a really sore throat ( but zero labour symptoms) so am feeling quite sorry for myself tonight. Must do better on the positivity tomorrow!

Mikyahrose Sat 06-Oct-12 02:18:57

It's taken me a while to get on and update. But I had my little boy on Monday.
Was due to be induced on Monday at 40+13. But naturally went into labour Sunday night (40+12).
We arrived at the hospital at 11pm, was examined but only 1cm. Was given cocodomol and told to rest. Examined again at 4am, 2cm. Given a shot of diamorphine to help me get some rest. Was told this wasn't a pain relief but would make me very sleepy, so I could sleep between contractions. Would also make baby drowsy, but would only last 4 hours and I wasn't even in active labour yet.
Examined at 8am hoping to be at least 3cm. And was 8!! Best news ever. smile
Started on the gas and air then, my waters were broken at 11am, i started pushing at midday, although I wasn't quite 10cm, but the mw said to just go with the contractions. He was finally born at 14.10 after over 2 hours of 2nd stage labour. Nearly had an episiotomy, got as far as having an anaesthetic put in, but managed to push his head out in the next contraction. Official labour time was 6 hours although my times from getting to hospital to birth was 14hours. Suffered a 1st degree tear, so had a few stitches.
All in all a good labour experience. Didn't get my water birth or delayed clamping, but hey ho.

Now all tucked up in bed feeding. The first night was great and he slept lots in his crib. But since then he's decided he doesn't like it. He sleeps well, but only on me. So I find myself managing to sleep but in awkward positions around him. But he's just too cute to be annoyed by this. smile

Congratulations to all you other new mums. And thinking of the rest of you, fingers crossed it won't be too long a wait. x

PoppyT Sat 06-Oct-12 02:58:40

Just wanted to say hello & big thanks for listening to me whinge the other day. Great news....I avoided induction, my baby arrived safe & well in early hours after quick labour. We're both well & enjoying lots of cuddles. I'll be watching thread & wishing everyone still waiting lots of luck. X

PollyIndia Sat 06-Oct-12 04:50:15

Congrats mikyahrose and poppyt. Lovely to hear you have your beautiful babies safe and well.

whenhenshaveteeth Sat 06-Oct-12 07:28:14

Morning everyone and congratulations Miky and Poppy it gives hope to us all that feel we're competing with elephant when it comes to gestation...

Turns out my symptoms were "nothing". I haven't given birth and happily slept through the pain with paracetamol and a hot water bottle. This morning I don't feel queasy anymore (maybe that was my dodgy cooking!) but I still have back pain (again could be because I slept in a weird position). So I don't know...

I'm bouncing out on my ball (gently so as not to bring up my breakfast...) and DH and DS have been told we're going for a brisk walk this morning and possibly this afternoon too if it doesn't piss it down with rain.

This baby WILL come out this weekend, otherwise I put him on the naughty step straightaway after he's born!

ST82 Sat 06-Oct-12 23:52:13

i think i am finally starting to make some real progress ladies! started this morning really, with the usual cramps but that have been getting stronger, more frequent ie every 15 mins at the moment and regular. i had a little bit of a show at around 4pm! back pain has been particularly bad but i just had a nice long bath my partner ran for me and they have eased off.

very excited right now, please pray for me that this is it! we have been through the hospital bag to make sure we have everything, partner has gone out and got loads of snacks, drinks and fruits, and i am planning on getting some (hopefully good) sleep. in the mean time, will enjoy a movie and bounce on my ball for as long as i can....

I will keep you all posted....

much love!

Mikyahrose Sun 07-Oct-12 04:04:42

Ooo 'citing ST82. Hope this is it for you. All sounds quite promising.

I've just woken from the longest block of sleep in 6 days. A full 4 hours! Well done little man. smile

whenhenshaveteeth Sun 07-Oct-12 04:29:23

ST how exciting! I'm so jealous as I'm convinced I will NEVER give birth... Wondering how you're getting on, please give us an update when you can.

Miky, your post reminded me of the reality of having a newborn... Sleep deprivation is the worst thing ever.

Walked and walked again yesterday but still nothing. I thought I was starting to lose the plug yesterday as I had some discharge that was darker than usual but it wasn't that much and has stopped since sad

Can't sleep. Got some back pain but I reckon it's to do with the fact that I'm enormous and lying in bed is pretty awkward now.

Got another sweep booked for Monday.

Mikyahrose Sun 07-Oct-12 04:48:14

Ooo fingers crossed for the sweep whenhens. I think they helped me along. I had 2, the first I was showing no signs if being close, and the second I was all ready to go. All started the next day after the 2nd, not properly till the evening though.
I haven't been to bad sleep wise. As much as I'm not getting a lot, I don't feel too bad for it yet and am still managing to function ok. And I think tonight's 4 hours (so far) has set me up for few more days.

whenhenshaveteeth Sun 07-Oct-12 06:34:01

Well at least you've got the right attitude Miky and are positive regarding your lack of sleep, that's probably half the battle. I think I'm just one of those people that turn evil when they don't get enough...

Never managed to go back to sleep and had to get up. Still have back pain but it's not in my lower back so I suspect it's to do with my sleeping. Having said that, I've just been to the loo and at lots of discharge that was slightly tinged with browny pink... Giving birth on a sunday during the day would be ideal really. Should maybe try and get some sleep but I can hear DS is awake in his room.

whenhenshaveteeth Sun 07-Oct-12 07:50:21

it's definitely the plug! I've had a lot more discharge and it was clearly streaked with blood. Quite excited! I know you can lose the plug weeks before you give birth but surely at 41 +1 that must mean things are imminent?!

Orenishii Sun 07-Oct-12 08:03:03

Sounds like it must be whenhenshaveteeth! Oooooh so exciting - today would be a good day! Starting early in the morning, done by evening in time for Sunday roast grin

Many fingers and toes crossed for you. Get some breakfast down you, and plenty of water!

PollyIndia Sun 07-Oct-12 08:40:03

Good luck ST82. And exciting you have lost the plug whenhenshaveteeth!

Mikyahrose, you must still be going on adrenaline and joy!

40+ 10 here and feeling like it will never happen on its own. No twinges even really. I am going to go to the gym and stop feeling sorry for myself. I have an appointment with the consultant Tuesday and imagine they will want to induce me by the end of the week. I suppose that is still 4 more days for the baby to come on its own? I am just not sure I see it happening though!

Orenishii Sun 07-Oct-12 09:10:19

Polly you're my hero. I want to last to 42 weeks without being scared into an induction - husband can be militant and although I am with him on the decision, I lose confidence in my decisions easily. 40+10 is bloody going and you have trusted your body and your baby this far - good for you!

PollyIndia Sun 07-Oct-12 09:23:37

It's just kind of happened that suddenly I am at 40+10 I think! Being on the homebirth team really helps as we've only had 1 easy conversation about induction and I am not seeing the consultant for The Chat until Tuesday when I will be 40+12. I trust the homebirth midwives though, and I know they will advise me on what is right for me and my baby. That is the beauty of being with them rather than just generally in the system. There are only 2 of them and they know all their patients well having been doing all appointments since 36 weeks.

I'll have a scan on Tuesday to check fluid levels and blood flow through the placenta. Baby is still moving well and heartbeat was strong at appointment on Friday. I guess I will have to go in for monitoring if I want to delay post Thursday.

I don't know what I will do - instinct says this baby has to come on its own eventually assuming everything is working ok. But that is the question isn't it.... being sure everything is working.

I am single which maybe helps too as I only have to consider my opinion. My ex, who isn't involved at the moment, would never want to go down this route, I know. We are very different people! He would never have wanted me to have a homebirth even!!

Anyway, I am sure you will make the right decisions too should you get to that point. And you probably will give birth before you get to this point!

It's just a bit frustrating to have not even had any signs yet!

However I did drop my iphone down the loo and it is working this am after having been in a bowl of rice overnight. And it's sunny. So they are good omens surely?!

funchum8am Sun 07-Oct-12 09:33:54

Best of luck with whatever route you decide is right for you polly. I would day that if you get to ask the consultant questions, do find out what would happen if induction caused you labour levels of pain before labour actually began, iyswim. If pain relief would be available to you (beyond a few tablets, that is) and you can be somewhere private it means you know you won't be left exhibiting yourself in pain in public like many women are (bit of a sore point with me after last week!) And ask whether the induction method is reversible (is it via a tampon like Propess, or a gel/pessary where once it's in, there's no going back.)

I am keeping everything crossed for everyone on here to have lovely smooth sneeze births!

PollyIndia Sun 07-Oct-12 09:36:20

Not sure I quite understand funchum, but that sounds like a very good question... do you mean that they give you the pessary or whatever and then you start to get pains but aren't actually in labour?

PollyIndia Sun 07-Oct-12 10:50:05

iPhone NOT now working so am feeling quite depressed about ever going into labour naturally!

funchum8am Sun 07-Oct-12 11:36:12

They give you the gel/pessary or propess and your waters go and/or you start contracting, but they didn't, at my hospital, consider you to be in labour until your cervix started to dilate. I had painful contractions which an internal showed were doing nothing at all to change my cervix. So technically I wasn't in labour, but it bloody well felt like I was! And at my hospital, or with that particular Mw, no labour meant no private room and no pain relief. I made her remove the propess in the end since it hurt so much. Luckily as it had made my waters go, nature took over and I jumped to 6cm dilated within a few hours of it being removed.

Sorry if I am worrying you, it is not all that likely this will happen, or your hospital may have better policies for this situation, but if you can ask the consultant about this scenario you may be able to get a clearer picture of all the possibilities.

PollyIndia Sun 07-Oct-12 13:10:24

No, not worrying me, it's good to understand the process. That's really helpful, thanks!

I made it to the gym (literally for about half an hour!) but made me feel much better. Willing this baby to come on its own with positive thoughts! And roast pork, crackling and lemon meringue cheesecake smile

YompingJo Sun 07-Oct-12 14:09:50

PollyIndia, I am full of admiration for your attitude and hope I will show the same strength of character in a couple of weeks. 39+2 here as I got my midwife to agree that my given due date from my first scan was ridiculous, and I have no current intention of accepting any offers of induction if babay doesn't show in next couple of weeks - fully prepared to have scan and monitoring every couple of days, with the expectation that the baby will come when it is ready - but I also know how hard that is going to be to stick to when I am already totally fed up with the discomforts of being heavily pregnant, and I also know they will try to scare me with stories of deteriorating placentas and reduced amniotic fluid sad.

Think it is so sad that the people who should know best (the midwives) are the ones who are will try to make me feel bad for trying to keep this natural when it is such a natural process. Bah. Enough politics!

ST82 and whenhenshavveteeth, hope this is it for both of you!

YompingJo Sun 07-Oct-12 14:11:19

And PollyIndia, is there room for another at dinner? Your meal sounds lush!

ST82 Sun 07-Oct-12 14:28:44

Quick update ladies! Lost all my plug around 7am an there was quite a lot of it! Contractions were getting stronger and regular during the night so we decided to pop in the hospital around 5am. Following examination, the MW confirmed my waters are intact and i have not dilated at all! I hope hoping for at least 1-2 cms...

Anyway, cane back home around 7am which is when i lost the plug. Managed to get some sleep but woke up because of the contractions, right now they last arouns 40-45 seconds every 4-5 mins. Went for a longish walk with my partner and hoping things will gradually progress ie my waters break or my contractions get a lot stronger, otherwise it means no progress.

Going to take a bath now. Will keep u posted!!!

Ps you will know when labor is about to start, i knew straightaway, i felt different, its difficult to explain how but diferent! You will know what i mean when it happens to u!

funchum8am Sun 07-Oct-12 15:36:09

Good luck st82!

Mikyahrose Sun 07-Oct-12 16:33:38

Ooo good luck ST82.

You are right about labour, when its it, You know.
You're doing we'll getting out and walking when your contractions are that often and long.

Hang in there overdue ladies. I was due to be induced at 40+13 9am. But got to the hospital at 40+12 11pm. With no real signs till about 7pm that night. I'd had 2 sweeps one at +8 and the second at +11. And I do think they helped me on my way.

My due date was also brought forward by 5 days at the dating scan, so possibly wasn't even as overdue as they said.

PollyIndia Sun 07-Oct-12 18:41:32

YompingJo, thanks but I don't feel very strong! It's definitely getting to me a bit. Had a nice day - went to gym, walked around in the autumn sunshine and had a yummy lunch - but still, nothing!

I have a consultant appointment to talk induction on Tuesday... Will see how I feel re accepting it or going for monitoring after that. I am taking my doula and hope she will be a good soundboard. Mikyahrose, did you end up having a last minute spontaneous labour? That gives me hope!!

ST82 so pleased things are happening for you! Can't wait to see your birth announcement. And looking forward to seeing news from whenhenshaveteeth.

Mikyahrose Sun 07-Oct-12 20:18:41

polly. Yes. That's what happened. I had a sweep sat 9am. And was told I was fully effaced and she thought I'd labour before the weekend was over. Felt no different Saturday. A bit periody achey on Sunday. But went to a carboot and then food shopping. Got to about 7ish and a realised the aches were stronger and a bit regular. Held out till 10.30 then went to hospital. And my little man was born 14.10 on Monday. I was due to be at the hospital at 8.45 that morning for induction.
Odd to think this time last week it was all going on and he wasn't even here yet!

PollyIndia Sun 07-Oct-12 20:33:02

What a week! It is amazing how things can change in a week.
Hopefully by this time next week I will be saying the same thing.

Glad to hear your story - it has given me hope! I am only 10 days over. Lots of people get this far. It just feels like everyone I know who was due around me, or even after me, has already given birth. But it will happen this week I am sure smile

Orenishii Sun 07-Oct-12 22:34:54

st82 sounds like IT! Good luck with it all - so exciting!

So yes, that whenhens and st82 potential birth announcements happening very soon grin

Polly it will SO be you soon!

In other news, I got my brave on and got the electric pump out to express because a) I wanted to try the nipple stimulation thing, b) I am a tiny bit weirded out by breastfeeding and I don't want to be and c) I was curious.

I expressed! A tiny amount of colostrum! I feel weirdly proud of myself. The machine pinched a little, my heart pounded ever so slightly, but when I saw it I just congratulated my breasts on a job well done and have a lot of faith baby/BFing hormones will kick in now smile

whenhenshaveteeth Mon 08-Oct-12 04:17:42

Ok, pretty sure this is it...

No real progress yesterday after my post but I woke up at 2.30am with some pains and I've been having contractions since. I'd like to sleep so as not to be knackered but went to bed uber early yesterday as I was shattered so I don't feel that tired now.

Plus I kind if need to breathe through the contractions even though it's nit that bad for the moment. So I took so co-codamol, stuck a hot water bottle to my back and I'm reading my book. Hope to get a couple of hours sleep though...

Will update when I can x

PollyIndia Mon 08-Oct-12 07:12:53

Great news whenhenshaveteeth! Good luck.

And thanks orenishii. Got acupuncture today and will be doing a lot of walking as need to go to the applestore to try and fix my phone. I might copy you tonight and get on the breast pump!

milk Mon 08-Oct-12 09:55:24

I'm back grin

William Andrew was born on Thursday 4th October, at 02:01am weighing 7lb 8oz smile born 40+2

I had to be induced on Wednesday 3rd October, due to having symptoms of pre-eclampsia.

I am so happy my family is now complete smile and I can use my BJCS grin

grin

Hooray! you can use the buggy he's here grin

Orenishii Mon 08-Oct-12 19:15:48

Congratulations Milk! Welcome to the world, William grin

Whenhens and ST82 hope everything is going well smile

Polly....suspiciously quiet from you today. Well, I guess not really but maybe I am turning into one of those annoying "has anything happened yet??"

Today I had a nose bleed, fell over, went for a swim and bought a casserole dish. By far and away the best thing in the last 24 hours has been the expressing wink

blooblies Mon 08-Oct-12 19:25:47

Congrats on all the babies grin! And Pollyindia I hope your silence is productive!

My story is here, posted a minute or two ago. All very, very unexpected in lots and lots of ways.

It gives hope to those waiting in that I never really even had a show other than post-sweep mucus. So it CAN happen all of a sudden, but best if not quite so sudden!

Orenishii Mon 08-Oct-12 20:02:05

WOW blooblies!

milk Mon 08-Oct-12 20:27:18

blooblies shock You are so brave!!! I would have freaked out if I was without a midwife and had to push!

milk Mon 08-Oct-12 20:27:31

Congratulations btw smile

PollyIndia Mon 08-Oct-12 20:29:50

Congratulations Milk!

And WOW Blooblies! What an amazing story. Congratulations! That is a brilliant birth story.

Unfortunately my silence is nothing exciting. I have had a RUBBISH day. Went to applestore in westfield stratford and they wouldn't fit me in to sort my phone, despite me actually crying on them. I have cried about 6 times today. It's very unlike me!

Then went for acupuncture and the acupuncturist had a doppler and said she was worried about the baby's heartrate as it was only 70 bpm and I should go to triage. After the treatment she tried again and it was 140 but she still said i should go. So I spoke to the homebirth midwife who said she really shouldn't be using a doppler as she wasn't a midwife but as she had mentioned this, I would have to pop in. So I did and all fine of course. But not contracting at all. And I am 40+12 tomorrow! I wonder if the acupuncturist was listening to my heartbeat.... anyway.

I have a meeting with the consultant and a sweep with the mw tomorrow. I know they will put me under pressure to book in for induction and having been really positive about the whole going into labour spontaneously thing, I am now feeling really wobbly and like maybe it's just not something my body can do....

The acupuncturist also said that to be this far along indicated a problem. Then the triage midwife said the placenta fails post 42 weeks. I've done my research and I know that isn't always the case. But it's amazing how much you start to doubt yourself as time goes on. Especially when you are doing this on your own actually.

Anyway, sorry for the moan on what should be a happy congratulating post!

whenhenshaveteeth Mon 08-Oct-12 22:09:52

Congratulations to milk and bloobies!!

ST82: any news??

Polly: sounds like you need a hug... Must be hard to make all the decisions on your own. It's rare that the placenta fails after 42wks but it can happen so it's valid from the consultants to want to avoid that. On the other hand, it's not
Fun being induced but you may only need the pessary to kick start things...

So, I'd left you at 4am breathing through the contractions... DS2 was born a few hours later in a similar way to bloobie.

6am: bath, played tetris on my phone (!) and paused every so often to breathe through the contractions.

7am: texted MW to say I probably didn't need a sweep as I reckon I was in the first stage of labour.

Then I sorted DS's breakfast and pack the rest of the stuff for my bag.

8am: breakfast, contractions are getting stronger but manageable.

8.30am: I pop a couple of co-codamol to see me through the next few hours.

9am: MW rings and say I can still come for the sweep to help things along, I decline as
I reckon baby will be here today. I tell her the contractions are close together (every 3/4min) but short (25sec or so). She says that's fine and that we want them to be 1min or so. I also mention I really want to pee during contractions and she says it's a good sign that baby is low down.

9.20am: DS gets picked up by friend.

9.30am: contractions intensify, I find it harder to focus but manage.

Suddenly really want to pee, sit on the loo bur it won't come out. Feel like I'm losing it and feel a bit ashamed to be coping so badly when I thought I could do it with the help of hypnobirthing! Hippy fool!

Feel the need to take my tights off and lie down on bed with legs open. Then plop my waters go.

DH: ok, we're going to hospital
Me: not going anywhere can't move. Call 999
DH: what??? You can't give birth here!
Me: call the birth unit - who told him to call 999...

In the meantime I had gone onto all fours and within one push the head came out, another one and so did the rest.

9.45am: paramedics arrived, just missed DH catching baby grin

MW arrived shortly after to deliver placenta and check all was well. Amazingly, I didn't tear although I feel pretty sore and swollen down there.

No room for me in hospital so Ive at home since...

Can't quite believe it!

Now I need to get some sleep as I've been up for a loooooong time now.

Labour vibes and good luck to everyone still waiting xx

funchum8am Mon 08-Oct-12 22:44:56

Milk! Blooblies! Hens! Huge congratulations to all of you! Two unattended births....wow. complete and utter respect to you and your DHs, ladies. Here's to swift recoveries.

Milk - babyfunch was born just before William. Hope you're recovering well, I am starting.to feel more normal, physically, as of today.

Polly - thinking of you - whatever you decide will be right for you and your baby. Let us know how it goes with the consultant.

Mikyahrose Mon 08-Oct-12 23:28:28

What amazing stories. Massive congrats ladies!

weezl74 Tue 09-Oct-12 06:28:39

Hi smile

May I join? I am 38 weeks today. Third baby. Planned homebirth. (had my first 2 at home too)

Best of luck to you all!

emzypoo Tue 09-Oct-12 09:17:26

Hiya I'm 39 + 6 today woken up by cramps last nite that seemed to get stronger no more than period pains tho and then just died off! Losing the will big time lol x

Orenishii Tue 09-Oct-12 10:55:50

Hi weezl74 and emzypoo!

I think a few of these ladies have had homebirths - more power to us smile I'm planning a HB for my first due in...oh, a week!

39 weeks today and very angry grin I say this with a big grin because I realise it is very unreasonable of me. I'm just fed up - swollen, achey, painful hands, constant heartburn, fucked off with people asking me how I am and if I've had the baby yet. I'm not even due yet!! I feel like screaming "Just fuck the fuck off and leave me alone!!" MiL - who I normally love - has called me, DH and messaged me on FB several times today and I just want to be left alone. I don't want to chat. Our grandparents emailing to ask if we've had the baby yet. My dad constantly talking about his granddaughter is annoying me - we don't even know what the baby is so just bugger off!

Aaarrgggh, so angry. Orenishii SMASH!!

But as DH says, I'd be upset if no one was interested...

emzypoo Tue 09-Oct-12 11:15:58

I'm finding my mum highly annoying right now shouting at my bump constantly Come out itys nanny speaking ! Grrr Also when at the checkout in morrisons yesterday she introduced me to the operator she had never met before as her daughter and I was pregnant! Like its obvious lol! X

weezl74 Tue 09-Oct-12 11:17:17

poor you Orenishii, that sounds hugely frustrating. Have you got any easy retorts planned to gently but firmly get them to stop?

as there are fellow homebirth ladies, can i ask if you are using a pool, and when you plan to do the filling and inflating. also has anyone got any thoughts on aromatherapy in labour?

ta ! smile

Orenishii Tue 09-Oct-12 11:43:26

Hahaha angry pregnant ladies!

I feel like being really sarky and saying - oh yeah, we had the baby couple of weeks ago, just didn't get around to telling you.

But I fear that is beyond mean and am instead just resorting to ignoring until I'm able to muster a semi-reasonable response. Something like - not yet but we'll be sure to let you know!

Take the hint, mofo's!

emzypoo that would seriously irritate me and I would be forced to walk away, muttering to myself like a crazy lady.

weezl74 yes, we have a pool! We've had a dry run, so to speak. It takes about five minutes to inflate, and about 20 minutes or so to fill. I'm hoping to hold off getting in until about 5cm or even later, so I guess the basic plan is to get it inflated once we've worked out things have started, ready to fill when I want to get in. DH is completely in control of it and we've had it folded up in the living room (our bathroom is on the same floor as the living room) for a week or so now.

I've been using clary sage oil in the bath for a week or so, and made up a mixture of clary sage and coconut oil for massages during the birth. Who knows - maybe it's all placebo but it makes me feel good so that's something in itself! How about you?

weezl74 Tue 09-Oct-12 12:30:52

emzypoo eeep at shouting at your bump!

Orenishii thanks for pool timings, they sound slightly quicker than ours so we've left it inflated as one less job in early labour. i am not sure if labour 3 is meant to be a bit quicker so i thought maybe good to keep things simple!

i will look into the clary sage, thanks! i haven't got an oil burner but have been improvising by warming dried lavender in there in my slo-cooker! lol. i am a bit of a cheapskate smile

Spice17 Tue 09-Oct-12 13:30:55

Wow what amazing birth stories! Polly's gonne quiet again, hope she's OK and perhaps in labour as I type.

I'm now 40+3, had a horrible day yesterday sitting around, feeling so fed up. Also went to see MW as had headache, felt sick and was getting rib pain (bit worried about PE but all OK)

Have decided to be more proactive today - which has benefited the house grin

Have cleaned the bathroom and dowstairs toilet, cleared out the (disgusting) fridge, swept and polished everywhere, made soup and am going to change the bedding when I've eaten it!

Really hope it gets things started - have sweep booked in for Thurs and am not keen......

PollyIndia Tue 09-Oct-12 17:20:29

No, no Spice17 - I am still here!

Whenhenshaveteeth, amazing! Congratulations lovely - what fantastic news.

And thanks Funchum8am.

Sorry to hear you are feeling fed up Orenishii. Hang on in there - could be a little while yet and the questions will only become more annoying. You've got a great plan and no reason it won't happen at this stage. Keeping everything crossed for you.

I feel like the thread elder now at 40+12! Welcome emzypoo and weez1234.

Also hoping for a homebirth, though lady luck will be smiling on me if it happens now I tend to think. I've kind of made peace with that. after a SHIT day yesterday when I kept bursting into tears (sounds like your day spice 17 - glad you feel better today too). I had consultant appointment this am with the matron and midwife and you know, they talk about the risks of going over and it does make you question yourself. I haven't decided what I will do yet. They said they are fine with me going to thursday for now, when I will be 42 weeks then we will decide whether I wait a few more days or go for induction. Baby is moving well and I have agreed to go in for daily monitoring. So let's see what happens. He gave me a very vigorous sweep (my first) and stretched me to 3cms dilated and seemed pretty confident that I would go into labour before thursday. But despite some contractions immediately afterwards, I am feeling fine again now.

Anyway, fingers crossed! As I say, I am feeling positive about it all again. Been for a few walks, eating a whole pineapple from the market and just made yummy coconut flapjacks while dancing round the kitchen to Absolute80's which is cheese-a-rama but brilliant nonetheless.

Sending labour vibes to all of us xx

PollyIndia Tue 09-Oct-12 17:24:16

It might be time to bust out the medela.... they do say that can help tip you into labour don't they???

funchum8am Tue 09-Oct-12 18:33:47

Wow Polly I had no idea they could stretch things that far!! I am so impressed that you are patient enough to be going for monitoring. Even If you go don't into labour before Thursday you know you gave nature her best shot. Fingers crossed!

PollyIndia Tue 09-Oct-12 19:17:36

Yes, that's what I figured Funchum. It's up to the baby now! I am hopeful, but if it doesn't happen, well maybe there is a good reason to go for induction and get on with things. Thanks!

mummy2benji Tue 09-Oct-12 19:47:01

Hi ladies! Joining thread for the first time, bringing biscuit and brew for everyone.. I'm joining a little early as I'm only 37+3 although ds was a week early and I'm having BH aplenty so never know when it might happen (wishful thinking).

Just read some amazing homebirth stories - congratulations and hat off to you ladies! smile

General self-indulgent moan: knackered today as spent half the night in labour ward due to baby girl deciding not to be her usual wriggly self yesterday evening - worried a bit, couldn't sleep and eventually phoned labour ward at 4am who told me to come in for monitoring and told me off for not having gone sooner. All was okay thankfully but spent an hour on the monitor then got home around 6am - just time to drop off to sleep before ds woke up!

Hubby has major career exam less than 2 weeks after baby is due so he is having to work / study 24/7, which means I am on 24/7 ds care not to mention the usual cooking / housework. Would be nice to be able to rest a bit but no relatives nearby to help out so not an option unfortunately. Nervous about getting ds off to a neighbour and retrieving hubby from work in time when I do go into labour - my labour with ds was 12 hours and started instantly on waters breaking, so a little fearful of it all happening too quickly and having no-one to help. Oh well, will figure something out...

Thanks for the moan smile Hope you're all doing well and healthy babies pop out soon x

weezl74 Wed 10-Oct-12 03:05:52

that all sounds hard mummy2benji. how far away is your dh when at work? have you got a home/hospital/mlu birth booked?

squidkid Wed 10-Oct-12 09:58:59

Polly, just popping back to say as ever I am so impressed with your attitude and general outlook and have all my fingers crossed you go into labour naturally in the next couple of days. I do know several people who did at 42 or 42+1 - my sister in law went into spontaneous labour on the way to the hospital for her induction at 42+0 - had a 4 hour labour! I started this thread what feels like years ago and though I only went a few days overdue I have to say I found it the hardest part of the entire pregnancy. Am thinking of you all.

YompingJo Wed 10-Oct-12 11:11:59

Orenishii I feel like being really sarky and saying - oh yeah, we had the baby couple of weeks ago, just didn't get around to telling you. - oh god, I have had to hold my tongue to stop myself from saying this so often! Keep getting texts from my parents: "we are off to (insert country here) for a few days, please text if baby arrives". Like I might just forget? FFS angry. Like you I am ignoring until I can be more polite but how much do I want to stick something on FB or somewhere similarly public along the lines of "every person who asks if we have had it yet gets themselves automatically removed from the list of people we notify when we do actually have it!"

weezl74, another hoping for homebirth in pool here - it's a Birthpool in a Box Pro. Feel like it is slightly inferior as it took approx 30 mins to fully inflate and will take about 3 hours to fill as the crappy tank runs out of hot water when the pool is half full, and will need to be left for a couple of hours to heat another tankload! I am crossing my fingers that as this is a first labour it will not be speedy and DH will have plenty of time to get the pool inflated and filled. Our place is small so there's nowhere we can keep an inflated pool at the ready just in case.

As for aromatherapy, my doula suggested putting a few drops of oil (eg lavender) in a bowl of hot water so it can infuse the room. I guess burning a lavender scented candle might have the same effect too? Have been told not to put the oil in the birthpool water in case I decide I don't like it and am them pretty much stuck with it.

Wow to birth stories from Bloobies and whenhens, and congrats to milk, you were one of the very first people I "met" on MN, way back in part 1 of the Due in October thread, and I remember you had a few early pregnancy wobbles, and I'm so very glad it has all worked out and you have your baby son! Come and update us on the October thread when you have time, we love all the birth stories and would love to hear yours!

39+5 (again) today, and very up and down. Had a day of full on tears and meltdown on Monday but great fun yesterday with DH painting the bump (photos on profile if anyone wants a giggle). Seeing MW tomorrow to stave off talk of induction, wish me luck...

Orenishii Wed 10-Oct-12 11:20:03

YompingJo hahahah totally love the "you will be crossed off the list!" Haha! I'm not even due for another 6 days and this morning I have had Mum calling (we spoke YESTERDAY), FIL texting, Mil FB messaging...for christ's sake, y'all never called me this much pre-pregnancy!

I am determined to keep myself in a stress free zone. Landlady wants to install a new bath, which means a day of work with the water off. No idea when she wants to do this - whenever her handy man can fit the work in. I am determined to stay flexible i.e. it doesn't necessarily mean no homebirth - if I go into labour while he is here, he can finish up quickly or put in a temp solution and just turn the water back on!

Polly, you're a trooper and like you say, you've given it as far as you are comfortable going, and that's the most important thing! Whether you go to be induced on Thursday or hold out another few days...it's been on your terms and I think we've all been so impressed and inspired by your reserve...you have had to make these decisions on your own, and for that you are an absolute star!

weezl74 Wed 10-Oct-12 12:05:15

yompingjo my remembering of physics is appalling but wouldn't 1 kettle of boiling water raise roughly 3 times its volume of cold water to roughly blood temp?

unless this is a muppetty idea, getting a couple of spare rapid boil kettles might be a quicker solution to getting a lovely warm birthpool. smile

thanks for the idea about the lavender in was water. are any smells associated with pain relief or ate they mote relaxants /get
things moving?

hope you are all ok and not too fed up!

YompingJo Wed 10-Oct-12 12:12:43

Weezl, impressed at your physics knowledge, and yes, probably worth a go if everything starts moving too fast for our pathetic little boiler to keep up!

Think lavender and ylang ylang are good for relaxing - not sure any oils are associated with pain relief as such, but if they relax you, the theory is that the sensation of pain will register less, so gotta be worth a go! This blog has some good info too

weezl74 Wed 10-Oct-12 12:25:16

smile large kidded pans of water on the hob , plastic jug of water in the micro and don't forget your pressure cooker!

my friend's boiler broke mid home waterbirth, and we even got her hubby putting casserole dishes of water into the oven!

thanks for the blog linkie. will peruse now....

weezl74 Wed 10-Oct-12 12:36:37

ooh geranium oil applied directly in perineum massage!

must persuade dh. he is well up for the massage (impressive gusto) just not sure what he'll say about adding the geranium component. teehee

Orenishii Wed 10-Oct-12 15:55:53

I've just spent the last half hour looking for a thread in which we talk about evening primrose oil and how to use it as a pessary - with much laughter about capsules in knickers...and I can't find it!

Does anyone know how much/how often/just how??

weezl74 Wed 10-Oct-12 16:35:46

Orenishii, I am using 1000-1500mg daily in pessary/capsule form. Mine has combined Vitamin E but only cos that's what asda had on special offer. Still, I'll have a well-moisturised lady garden, if nowt else smile

weezl74 Wed 10-Oct-12 16:40:01

Sorry forgot to say, I originally was pricking them with a pin and inserting them, but then it went everywhere and dribbled back up my arm, so I switched to just inserting them. I thought the capsule casing might re emerge, but after 10 days I can safely say they aren't.

I have wondered tho if I will give birth to a baby and a neat little pile of capsules. grin

I just had MW appointment. I am 3/5ths engaged. Also the heart was doing rhythmic accelerations, does anyone know what that means?

Orenishii Wed 10-Oct-12 16:48:32

Thanks weezl74! I am in a weird place because while I'm sure all these things help but not bring on birth especially - my landlady has a handy man ripping out our bath on Friday and I am due on tuesday! I don't want to scupper our HB plans, I don't want to start before Friday...arrraaaggghhh, why now, landlady!

But if we say no, we might never get it done, and it needs doing. Waaah. Breathe, breathe.

So someone else said they also massaged it into their vagina and felt it helped with tearing so maybe I'll take one, massage one in, and insert one...daily. I only have the 1300 mg.

Oooooooooh 3/5! What week are you at? Sounds like it's all happening at the right pace! So exciting. No idea what rhythmic accelerations are...googling doesn't seem to throw anything obvious up!

weezl74 Wed 10-Oct-12 16:59:27

Thanks Orenishi. I am only 38 + 1 but I tend to go a bit earlier than dates.

That's so gutting about the bathroom! What pants timing. If it is any help, there is a lot of evidence to suggest that women (along with all female mammals) do have an instinctive sense of not birthing if the environment is wrong. Plus also maternal tiredness, dehydration and anxiety all have a tocolytic (labour-suppressing) effect. So my hunch would be that your body would wait.

My DS2 got diagnosed with asthma today, but for a bit it was query whooping cough, so even tho I'm beyond the 38 week window I went for the jab anyway. Have any of you lot gone for it?

weezl74 Wed 10-Oct-12 17:03:41

sorry me again, Orenishii, do you have a pool, or were you hoping on the bath for some comfort? I am sure it would be no big faff to wollop the water back on, but if you were depending on the bath that could be a bit of a bummer.

mummy2benji Wed 10-Oct-12 17:15:57

weezl74 thanks for the sympathy! Dh works 45 min - an hour away depending on traffic. I have a hospital birth planned but midwife-led. Hospital is only 15 min drive away (5-10 min in middle of the night). I am feeling more positive today and hopeful that ds can be safely delivered to neighbour, dh retrieved from work quickly, and baby born in hospital! Here's hoping, anyway...

I had my whooping cough (and flu) jab last week (37+4 now). WC arm was quite sore after! Glad I had it though. Glad your ds2 didn't have WC but sorry about the asthma - hope it is just mild. How old is he?

orenishii - I tried a perineal massage oil / gel with ds and not sure if it did a lot, but it does feel like you're doing something to prevent damage down there at least!

x

weezl74 Wed 10-Oct-12 17:42:13

Mummy2Benji I am sure you will get there on time smile

Thanks, yes I'm pretty sure the asthma is mild, the GP didn't admit him.The other good thing is that his older brother gets it too (DS1 is 3 and a half, and DS 2 is 2 and a half) so he has seen his brother take ventolin via a spacer for yonks, so is less scared of the new procedure!

hufflepuffle Wed 10-Oct-12 19:08:58

Hello all! Can I join?? Hoping not quite 2 weeks to go, I am 39+ 3 today and not really feeling anything new ! Bit periodyheavy today but wondering if is my imagination!!!

Got my WC jab last Tuesday so actually hoping bubs doesn't come before wknd anyhow so as can have 10 days to allow antibody production to transfer to baby, that's what I read last week anyhow.

Hoping to keep up with this post for any hints and tips!

Huffle 35, 39+3 DC1

seabuckthorn Wed 10-Oct-12 19:28:21

Hello, can I join? I'm actually only 36 weeks but this is my third and my lot are early babies!
I feel terrible even feeling this fed up already! I definitely have the 'angry pregnant lady' badge.
I just want everyone to leave me alone! Sadly no one seems to be getting that vibe from me.
I should realistically do some more sorting before I give birth and cook some freezer meals but I just want to eat toast, nap and watch tv in peace!
My DC know something is up and aren't sleeping and my eldest is currently having a bedtime meltdown only a toddler knows how.
DH is working late and not being overly helpful and we are now due to move house when I will potentially have 3 week old baby!
Stressed up to my eyeballs and this baby decided to have a practice run at the weekend but luckily decided that actually he was snug where he was. Which is great but that was rather stressful!
Sorry big old rant! I'm not always this grumpy I promise smile

weezl74 Wed 10-Oct-12 19:45:34

hello huffle and seabuckthorn smile

what kind of births do you have planned, all going well?

seabuckthorn Wed 10-Oct-12 19:52:40

Hello weezl74 Just gas and air this time I hope! Natural 3rd stage and then tea and toast aka the 4th stage!
How are you doing?

weezl74 Wed 10-Oct-12 20:09:18

ooh well done smile seabuckthorn i seem to manage with g and a until transition and then i get it in my head i need pethidine!

hoping to be able to stay at home as that's where both my sons were born.

this time I've booked a doula, never had one before smile she thinks we are interesting as we are 'unusual clients' grin

tell me more about natural 3rd stage? I've not read much.

seabuckthorn Wed 10-Oct-12 20:16:00

I did my second with just gas and air... not so much by choice, I seem to remember demanding an epidural to only be told the midwife could see the head!
Natural 3rd stage is where they don't give you the injection that makes you deliver the placenta quite quickly. I think they give up to an hour to do it naturally. My body took a long time to recover from my first, I was drugged up to my eyeballs and it seems they took a long time to get out my system.
Interested to hear about your doula and why you are unusual! I think if DH would agree I would have a doula too!
Do you know what you are having? I'm having my 3rd boy!

weezl74 Wed 10-Oct-12 20:30:37

ooh 3rd boy here too!

well, when we interviewed doulas, quite a few said that typically most clients have come from a very strong non-medival low /minimal intervention model. often panting more of a hypnobirthing, method and also seeing a much more ?spiritual/mystical (not sure of right word) approach to childbirth. then there is a rising % of clients who sadly have felt let down by nos midwifery and essentially want an advocate for their choices.

i respect both of these positions, but dh and i are both much more medical and endlessly read medical journals before deciding stuff if we can.

in south Wales where i live dh and i are therefore an unusual category.

sorry for such a mahooosive answer!

weezl74 Wed 10-Oct-12 20:32:09

*scuse terrible typos!

seabuckthorn Wed 10-Oct-12 20:58:39

Ah I see! DH and I are very much medical in that sense too.
3 boys all round then!
I hope it goes well for you. I did think about a home birth but I think my two are too little I think it would disturb them too much, their feathers are easily ruffled! Starting to hit me, having to give birth soon. I'm trying not to think about it too much!

seabuckthorn Wed 10-Oct-12 20:59:23

Mind you people might actually give me a blinking break once I've given birth!

hufflepuffle Wed 10-Oct-12 21:00:36

Hello! Hoping for hospital birth but without drugs or interventions, being as active as possible, water birth if available and natural 3rd stage. This is however DC1 and I may be completely and utterly deluded!!!!!!!

seabuckthorn Wed 10-Oct-12 23:11:56

Hi huffle! You aren't deluded! Hope it all well for you, how much longer do you have to go?

seabuckthorn Wed 10-Oct-12 23:12:27

Hope it all goes well that should say. Sorry its late I should go to bed!

PollyIndia Wed 10-Oct-12 23:14:55

Thanks for your lovely words squidkid and orenishii. I am happy to say I think it might be happening!! I have been being period pains since the sweep yesterday then at monitoring this am it showed I was contracting regularly as high as 80 or 90 on their scale thing. I then went for a walk and walked home and had real pains on the walk which had turned into contractions by the time I got home. And that was 9 hours ago and I've been having contractions every 5-15 mins since. So I hope so... What do you think? Pool set up downstairs. It is my birthday in 47 minutes too! This would be the best birthday present ever!!!

Fingers crossed!!

OctoberOctober Thu 11-Oct-12 01:36:18

pollyindia - hope you are well on the way to getting a fabulous birthday present with your LO making an appearance grin

Glad to hear that the sweep seems to have kick started things, reckon I'll be heading that way next Mon if make it to 40+3

weezl74 Thu 11-Oct-12 04:13:27

happy birthday pollyindia!

i hope it is all going well and that things progressed well after you posted smile

notjealous notjealous notjealous notjealous notjealous notjealous notjealous notjealous grin

funchum8am Thu 11-Oct-12 07:19:34

Oh Polly I am sooo pleased for you...I have in fact welled up here! Hope you have been progressing well overnight, can't wait for news!

Orenishii Thu 11-Oct-12 12:34:03

Happy birthday PollyIndia and....maybe happy birthday to baby Polly too?? It definitely sounds like things are progressing, fo sho!

YompingJo Thu 11-Oct-12 14:17:48

Fingers crossed for you Polly

PollyIndia Thu 11-Oct-12 15:11:59

Well I am very happy to announce that baby rafferty Horne was born at home at 5 this morning at 42 weeks on the nose and my birthday. In the nick of time! The homebirth was amazing... Contractions much more bearable than expected (even weirdly enjoyable!), pushing way harder. But it was amazing and I feel so lucky that this happened in the nick of time. I would have been back there today fighting induction battles had this not happened.

I would like to thank you all for your wise words on this thread. And good luck to everyone else awaiting birth!

squidkid Thu 11-Oct-12 15:20:41

Wonderful news Polly!!! Well done you for waiting, what an inspiration you are. On your birthday too, how adorable! And at home... you really are a posterchild for patience and good sense!

Massive congratulations, am tearing up a bit here thanks thanks

Enjoy the newborn snuggles.

I found contractions loads harder than expected and did better at the pushing smile

Orenishii Thu 11-Oct-12 16:41:29

Polly you are amazing and an inspiration!!! Bloody well done and congratulations to you and little Rafferty! grin

You're all amazing, you all did so wonderfully. I have 5 days before my due date and currently wishing I didn't have to go through it sad I hope to change this frame of mind soon and you lovely ladies and your amazingness is such an inspiration.

Orenishii Thu 11-Oct-12 16:43:36

Oh polly, does this also mean you share a birthday with your little one? Awesome! Happy birthday to you both grin

mummy2benji Thu 11-Oct-12 17:40:16

Polly huge congrats to you and glad you got your home delivery as you'd wanted, and on your birthday too! How lovely smile

Btw weezl74 I live in south wales too - small world!

I nearly slipped over in the mud today - horrid rainy weather - gave myself bit of a fright and lots Braxton Hicks today and achey bump. Thinking it would be nice if baby girl decided to make an appearance, but as I still have 2 weeks till D Day that is rather wishful thinking!

Greetings to all other achey bumps and impatient bump owners!

weezl74 Thu 11-Oct-12 19:07:08

congratulations Polly! wow smile

yay for fellow south Wales mummies smile is your ds going to go Welsh or English pre school route?

Spice17 Thu 11-Oct-12 19:28:16

Many congratulations Polly! And happy birthday to you both!

I had a sweep today at 40+5 doesn't seem to have done much but very bottom of my bump (and baby) moving all over the place and twinging quite badly, hope this could be something.........

seabuckthorn Thu 11-Oct-12 20:45:10

Congratulations Polly! What a Birthday present!
Hope everyone is ok, I'll post properly later after my supper.

mummy2benji Thu 11-Oct-12 20:55:55

weezl74 ds is going English route (we're both English) but in our village school they still learn some basic welsh - he started nursery this Sept and is already able to sing me a song in welsh! I'm thinking of learning some basics myself just so I can check he's not saying naughty words and telling me they mean something different!

funchum8am Thu 11-Oct-12 21:03:36

Polly I am sooo delighted for you! And I LOVE his name! Let is know how you are getting on in a few days.

JessTT Thu 11-Oct-12 22:19:13

Yay, huge congratulations Polly!!!! Sooooo happy (and slightly emotional) that you managed to avoid induction and have your homebirth! Well done you.....sounded amazing and like you coped so well! Did you use your pool in the end?

Happy happy birthday to you and Rafferty....enjoy the baby snuggles x x x

weezl74 Fri 12-Oct-12 04:50:59

Hi all, is anyone else getting terrible insomnia at this point?

I am averaging 3-4 hrs sleep a night, and it has been going on for so long that I am a bit concerned about having the energy to do labour.

I am getting crampy pains a fair bit, (just period pain type ones nothing like a proper proper contraction yet), am feeling that end-of-pregnancy agitation feeling and also have my purple line, but nothing symptom-wise that makes me think this is anything too meaningful yet.

I am glad I've read that it is all getting me somewhere though smile

Mummy2Benji, that sounds very cool about the Welsh song smile Aw! my 2 DSs are in Cylch Meithrin (we're not welsh either, but decided to go for welsh-speaking nursery) and it is so so cool hearing their Welsh. DH and I know that we have to really pursue our own Welsh if we are going to properly go down the welsh-medium route, but then I got pregnant with number 3, and DH has been finishing off a PhD, so that hasn't quite happened yet!

Hope everyone is well, and not too fed up of being pregnant

Weezl x (3rd baby, third boy, 38+3, hopefully having a homebirth)

AliceHurled Fri 12-Oct-12 04:59:17

Not posted here before, but yes that is precisely why I am up! Can never sleep at this time now

AliceHurled Fri 12-Oct-12 05:00:12

Where do you get a purple line? confused Do I want one? grin

weezl74 Fri 12-Oct-12 05:05:11

Hi Alicehurled!

Sorry you are wakeful too. It sucks doesn't it? Have you got to go to work today?

Re: the purple line, apparently it's another way of measuring labour progress, that some studies think is more accurately reflective of labour progression than cervical dilation. More about it here if interested!

When are you due, is it your first, what plans for the birth... And all other nosey questions grin

AliceHurled Fri 12-Oct-12 05:13:41

No work luckily. My partner has to though so I get up so as not to disturb him. Especially as I already woke him screaming out with a nightmare a few hours ago.

I'm tempted to wake him to look for my purple line though grin he'd love that.

I was due yesterday. The baby will just pop out in water in hospital.

AliceHurled Fri 12-Oct-12 05:14:16

And yes it's my first. Hence my expectations of labour wink

weezl74 Fri 12-Oct-12 05:17:57

Water is lovely in labour, I really benefited from it! I think it's good you have positive labour expectations, and I hope it is all fab and straightforward for you. Mine have been very straightforward too.

When I presented my bottom to DH for inspection, and asked about the line, I also asked if I had always had it.

he: dunno

me: we've been married for 13 years!

he: you know I'm not good at detail

grin

weezl74 Fri 12-Oct-12 05:25:11

ps (sorry to thread hog!)

this is a really good type of acupressure to teach your oh/birthpartner/hospital janitor brought in from the corridors smile in case anyone is looking for additional things to help during a contraction.

Doodlekitty Fri 12-Oct-12 05:50:39

Ooh, end of pregnancy agitation? Finally a symptom I seem to have! A just can't settle, ever. Sat here wide awake, today is technically week 38 and I'm so fed up and it could be another 4 weeks!

Sleep is for wimps

emzypoo Fri 12-Oct-12 05:55:17

Congrats polly india on the birth of rafferty! I am loving the name is gorgeous! Also weezl174 and mummy2benji I'm also living in south wales its a small world!hope everyones ok, saw my mw yesterday and booked for a sweep tuesday, my lo had decided to disengage and do mw popped the head back in am now 2/5 engaged. X

mummy2benji Fri 12-Oct-12 08:29:31

Yes dreadful insomnia - can't get comfortable, heartburn if I lie on my right side (which is more comfortable) and feeling wide awake. When I do sleep I dream about labour! Are other people having lots of dreams about labour and giving birth?! I'm getting them every night! Not in nightmare form, thankfully, just about being on the labour ward having contractions. I could do without them all the same! Would be lovely to have a good night's sleep... I am so going to be back addicted to the strong black coffee again the minute dd is born.

Right, I'm just off to the bathroom to check out purple line in a mirror (hubby is at work!)... sorry TMI... smile

weezl74 Fri 12-Oct-12 09:00:36

from the whooping cough thread i picked up that you know tonnes more about this stuff than me smile but i wondered if you'dtried renatidine, as this helped me masses, when a stupid amount of gaviscon was not even touching the sides.

sorry so many of us are sleep deprived, it's grim isn't it? small possible crumb of comfort i read that while a mother is most restful the baby can be most wakeful and vice versa (as we compete for the same energy source) so if we are awake in the night, at least we are training our babies to sleep at night time! grin

weezl74 Fri 12-Oct-12 09:03:04

emzy hello another welshy lady!

i'm in cardiff, gimme a shout if i can point you in the direction of any mum's groups or anything like that. smile

Beeblebear Fri 12-Oct-12 11:13:09

You know you are 39 weeks pregnant when your husband has friends over and you don't even bother putting trousers on for the occasion.

Orenishii Fri 12-Oct-12 11:30:00

mummy2benj try fennel tea for heartburn. Works a treat - heartburn was my morning sickness and it returned with a vengeance since week 37. I was dying. Nothing I did made any difference - I am not a fan of just washing it away with Gaviscon because it feels like it doesn't treat it and it'll only come back. You can't have much in late pregnancy, but one cup of fennel tea has made the world of difference to my heartburn!

Another one constantly dreaming of giving birth - the other night I dreamt I was cryogenically frozen in order to give birth to triplets; last night I dreamt I gave birth to a girl and my cat was its nanny!

Spice17 Fri 12-Oct-12 11:39:06

I keep dreaming about people telling me they're dying or even more weirdly shooting people! I've heard that this is fairly common in late pregnancy with the life v death thing.

Also dreaming a lot about having a baby now and being a bit bloody clueless. Had one last night where I was looking after my mums new baby (she's 54 and had a hysterectomy about 18 years ago?!) and she asked me to feed him and I forgot and went home!

Orenishii Fri 12-Oct-12 11:51:21

Hahahaa spice - is this your first?

I can't wrap my head around there being an actual baby...and parenthood...it's all a bit overwhelming!

mummy2benji Fri 12-Oct-12 15:06:40

weezl74 I do have some ranitidine in the cupboard but I'm lucky in that gaviscon does tend to settle it, so I've just stuck with that. Glad fennel tea has helped yours orenishii. The joys of pregnancy!

Well I have the purple line... up to the top of the natal cleft, which, according to the article, suggests I am minutes away from 2nd stage of labour! Except that was 6 hours ago. And apart from the usual BH nothing else out of the ordinary has happened. Darn!

Spice17 Fri 12-Oct-12 15:49:47

Orenishii - yes it's my first. I've also dreamed before that baby comes out and she's the size of Thumbelina and sits in my hand like a cute little doll and I think to myself, well this isn't what I expected but hey ho!

Btw, I wish our Cats could be the nannies - I would definitely trust mine! smile

mummy2benji Fri 12-Oct-12 20:14:36

Spice17 that would be nice and easy to give birth to! The danger would be in not realising baby had slipped out. If only...! smile The dreams about shooting people sound more entertaining than my labour ward ones. I have to go through labour as it is, I don't want to feel like I've gone through it for the fourteen nights in a row beforehand too!

x

weezl74 Sat 13-Oct-12 12:13:41

Are you all giving birth? smile

PollyIndia Sat 13-Oct-12 12:14:38

Thanks for all your lovely words.

So it is day 3 now and we are doing well I think. The homebirth was an amazing experience. I started getting noticeable contractions around lunchtime of 40+13 after having had a very vigorous sweep the day before. I spent the afternoon dancing around with my 1 year old niece to absolute80s radio feeling so excited that this might be it then they ramped up by about 6. I put on the office season 1 as our hypnobirthing teacher said that relaxing and laughing is the best way to progress labour. And it worked I think. My sister and the doula arrived at about 730, we ate and put the pool up. I called the midwives at about 11 and they arrived at midnight and examined me and said I was already 5cms and I got in the pool and we watched take me out - felt all very jolly and not really like being in labour! Contractions started getting much more intense and longer but totally manageable with the old hypnobirthing. I started using noise for the outbreath and banging stress balls together which also really helped. My waters broke at about 3 and I went straight into transition which was excruciating but only for about 10 minutes and I knew why it was so painful then I felt the urge to push.

Pushing ended up being nearly 2 hours - half in the pool and half out - and my doula said yesterday that he was a difficult baby to push out. Breathing down just didn't work so I had to do full on purple pushing in the end. Luckily I was coached brilliantly by the midwives but I have never felt ANYTHING like that in my life. I do remember feeling in total shock when he finally popped out and none of the euphoria I had expected. This wasn't helped as he was a bit blue so we didn't get skin to skin and the cord had to be clamped and cut quickly then I was kind of left to deliver the placenta on my own as the midwives dealt with Raffy. Then they decided to take us in as they weren't quite happy so before I knew it I was in my bloodstained tracksuit bottoms and some old t-shirt in the ambulance heading to hospital and I was scared to even hold him, plus I couldn't talk or walk and still felt in total shock. Anyway, within 15 mins of arriving, the pediatrician said we could go home but by then we were in the system so it took 6 more hours to be discharged.

Once I got home and I was able to just sit with him and process the birth, I started to fall in love with him, and now I just can't believe how amazing he is. So it was a slightly tough end to what had been an amazing birth but it hasn't coloured it and I still feel very lucky to had the experience I did. I love the fact I can remember it all and I got to experience it. Pregnancy was unplanned for me and at 36 (now just 37) I wasn't sure if I would ever have kids. Then I had a thing with my ex in thailand and the rest, as they say, is history. I couldn't be happier right now.

We are getting the hang of breastfeeding thanks to my doula (who is amazing - cleaned everything up while I was at the hospital - pool down and packed away, towels all washed. Honestly wonderful). I had no stitches amazingly (raffy has a big head!), and my parents are here and helping out. I seem to have visitors booked in for every day until xmas but it's lovely seeing how excited all my friends are about raffy's arrival. I think being on your own, people rally round more.

Anyway, thanks again to you guys as well. And thanks for your lovely comments!

Funchum, JessTT and Squidkid, thanks so much! How are you guys getting along?

Mummutobenji and Weez174 I am from south wales - caerleon near newport - though I live in London now. Good luck with your births.

Orenishii, I so hope you get your homebirth. I am sure you will. You are so positive about it all and so prepared. But if not, it will still be amazing!

Hope the sweep worked Spice17! And thanks Seabuckthorn.

Good luck to all of you. I'll be popping back to hear your birth stories! This shit is addictive!

seabuckthorn Sat 13-Oct-12 14:03:52

Hi everyone, well nothing to report here, I did get my haircut so I can now give birth...obviously!
Not really any more twinges, I get lots at night but I think that's normal! Plenty of time but still.

Your actual birth sounds just lovely Polly. I'm so sorry you had to go to the hospital but so pleased all is well. Enjoy these early days they are fab!

mummy2benji Sat 13-Oct-12 14:48:51

Ooh congratulations again Polly and thanks for telling us your birth story. Sounds like you coped wonderfully and glad that baby Raffy was fine after the trip to hospital and didn't need any treatment.

I am finding it hard today confused Hubby has major exam less than 2 weeks after baby is due so is currently revising 24/7 when he isn't otherwise at work, so I am consequently on 24/7 childcare duty with ds (who is approaching 4). Added to the lack of sleep - insomnia, getting up to pee, two interruptions from ds then up at 7 - I am just feeling knackered, sore achey bump and in a witch of a mood. I knew it would be tough - we didn't exactly get our timings organised very well! But today just feeling bit resentful, fed up and emotional. Grrrrr! Almost feel like at least when I go into labour I'll finally get to put my feet up - although I'll be too knackered to push her out! Argh!

Anyway, hope the rest of you ladies are having a better day. Lots of love x

Beeblebear Sat 13-Oct-12 14:53:39

Well... First day of maternity leave. Have prenatal class all day. Last day of our 3 day crash course and this one is all about what to do with an actual baby! Lol

Bookec myself in for a pedi on tuesday. May try and get a haircut on thursday.

Nno real signs of impending birth here. Some bh, mostly when I move after sitting a while, or doing things where I repeatedly bemd over (like taking laundry out of the dryer. No crampy type pains except yesterday when my stomach felt ill from eating too much sugar

I have totslly hsd the mini baby dream. I kept loosing him in the shrets of the bed, or putting him down and forgetting where he was.

Also have lots of shooting nightmares, but that happened pre-pregnancy too.

YompingJo Sat 13-Oct-12 15:15:11

Beeble, what does one do with an actual baby? This baby is now late so I'd love it to get a move on but don't have a clue what to actually do with it when it is here!

Polly, congrats, thank you for sharing your story, really positive overall and glad you got your homebirth!

funchum8am Sat 13-Oct-12 18:12:32

Polly congratulations! I'm so glad you got your home birth, even if finished off with a trip to hospital. At least you know 100% he is OK.

I'm doing fine - yompingjo to answer your question (from my oh so experienced perspective based on all of ten days of motherhood) what you do with an actual baby is something like feed-wind baby-change nappy-put baby down to nap-try to sleep while baby sleeps-wake up to sound of baby crying-feed-repeat! But it's lovely and if you have family and friends round it's all lovely, people are so touched by a newborn.

Polly now you've had Rafferty you might need some company at night - there is a lovely group of ladies on the night feeds thread. I am going to go and learn how to do a link and then come back and post it for all of you who might be interested in the near future - good luck for natural, straightforward births and SOON!

funchum8am Sat 13-Oct-12 18:20:19
Spice17 Sat 13-Oct-12 18:25:59

Thanks for the update Polly, well done and congratulations - no stitches too!

My sweep was more of a painful poke shock and hasn't done anything. 41 weeks today and thinking I'm definitely going to get to induction now (probably next Thurs) and that makes me very sad, just want my body to work for me sad

To all the South Wales ladies, I'm in Bristol, so not far away!

PollyIndia Sat 13-Oct-12 21:42:42

Funchum, I will check that out! xx

weezl74 Sat 13-Oct-12 23:40:50

Aw Spice17, I am sorry you feel induction is inevitable now sad Do you feel up for trying/have you tried any of the 'natural induction methods'?

weezl74 Sat 13-Oct-12 23:44:03

My doula did me some reflexology today. It was lovely. I was hoping it might get things going, but nope!

Sorted out a lot of aches and pains though smile

Beeblebear Sun 14-Oct-12 04:59:07

Ugh. Over the las t couple days I have started to retain water big time. My joints are achy, and my wrists are swollen kicking up the carpal tunnel. If I sit wrong my feet go numb annd... when I walk, the top of my feet jiggle ewwwwwww.. So done!

According to class, we will feed, burp, change and swaddle our new babies.... Hmmmmm did I forget something?

weezl74 Sun 14-Oct-12 07:30:58

pooh beeblebear! swelling is a good sign! smile

weezl74 Sun 14-Oct-12 07:31:35

*oooh (darn autocorrect)

seabuckthorn Sun 14-Oct-12 08:17:11

Did she do induction reflexology Weebl? I'm having that next week. I hope it blinking works!
I have terrible backache but I can't decide if that's our mattress or the start of something. I cannot believe I can't remember how labour starts!

Hope the swelling isn't too bad Beeblebear.
Hope everyone else is ok.
I'm starting to get some horrible anxious moments where the scary thoughts kick in sad

YompingJo Sun 14-Oct-12 11:28:27

Lol @ Spice17's "painful poke", sounds like a more natural method of induction in my current state grin

weezl74 Sun 14-Oct-12 12:31:28

seabuckthorn, she did use a little bit of clary sage and do those areas, but she was quite restrained as i am only 38+5. i would definitely have a proper one after dates though if needed smile

Orenishii Sun 14-Oct-12 13:45:52

Awwww seabuckthorn I get those scary thoughts too but we have to trust that when things start, our bodies will get us into a "let's get to it!!' frame of mind. All those hormones, serotonin, adrenaline etc, will kick in and we'll be all about the giving birth smile

Yomping are you really looking forward to it? I know you're waiting for it to happen and obviously want it to but would you say you're actively looking forward to it? I seem to have lost that (lovin') feeling (woa, woa) in the last few days and I want it back sad I almost feel afraid of my baby - oh god, that sounds mental.

weezl the reflexology sounds lovely, definitely going to try that at 41 weeks if I am still here!

How can I say I am afraid and in the same breath talk about more ways to bring on labour??

weezl74 Sun 14-Oct-12 13:57:08

am not yompingjo but i do understand and feel both the huge excitement and wanting to meet silas ( the baby) bit also being very frightened of him coming and all it might mean.

not sure why i said that as i have no sage words! just hoped it might feel nice to not feel alone in the feeling!

Orenishii Sun 14-Oct-12 14:23:51

weezl totally right - just nice to know we're not alone in these feelings smile thank you.

Spice17 Sun 14-Oct-12 14:41:11

Weez have so far tried (lots of) pineapple, bouncing on my ball and had a long walk today, DH says we should try sex tonight and that 'I don't have to enjoy it' grin

I do have some Raspberry leaf tea but I imagined it would be all fruity and nice but actually smells like mushrooms <boak>

weezl74 Sun 14-Oct-12 14:41:15

Agreed! but socially i think we are all only expected to say and feel the 'yay! a baby' part. so it can be a bit lonely-making sitting with the other bit. hugs anyway, and i hope some of that lovin' feelin re-emerges soon ;)

weezl74 Sun 14-Oct-12 14:45:21

SPICE! you made me spit out my tea!

how kind of him to permit you not to enjoy it! grin

I hate to disappoint him but your enjoyment brings forth a useful surge of oxytocin, so he does need to erm.... be attentive shall we say ;)

Spice17 Sun 14-Oct-12 15:04:27

Ha ha, he just asked me about whether he could, erm, 'do things to me' and I said it might feel weirdly inappropriate but, well if it's necessary then I guess I'll have to let him! grin

seabuckthorn Sun 14-Oct-12 15:28:26

I hope mine isn't too restrained! Weezl sorry my phone changed you to Weebl! Do you feel any different?
Orenishii, thank you, I'm glad it's not just me that has these wobbles. They tend to happen when I'm up in the middle of the night.

How is everyone this afternoon? I'm about to have a decaf coffee and a mince pie (yes, yes judge away!)

seabuckthorn Sun 14-Oct-12 15:29:00

Lol spice! How did I miss that post!

YompingJo Sun 14-Oct-12 16:05:54

Orenishii, I fluctuate between looking forward to it and dreading it, if I'm honest. I'm still very much looking forward to it in a "when the fuck will this be over?" kind of way, but that's not what you meant.

For a while, I was really genuinely excited about labour, for lots of different reasons - a totally new experience, a chance to find out how I'd do, a chance to put my body through something really intense after such a long time of not doing this (mountaineering, rock climbing and running have had to be postponed and I'm really, really missing the physical challenge, and I think labour will be a bit like that - a real physical challenge, like a race or a mountain I'm slogging my way up, getting more and more tired as I get close to the top), the start of something utterly new, , sheer curiosity about this amazing thing I have never done...

I don't know what happened to all that positivity though. Confusion over due dates has meant that I have felt like the baby could come at any minute for 4 weeks now, with a possible 2-and-a-bit more weeks to go before I am properly overdue. That's a long time to be "ready", and my symptoms (BH, achy feeling of baby being engaged) fluctuate daily rather than gradually increasing. Loads of people who were due before me or at a similar time to my original due date have now given birth (on here, in NCT group, in real life) so I'm starting to feel like this will never happen. Having read other people's birth stories, I'm starting to doubt myself and whether I'll be able to do this the way I thought I would (home, water, hypnosis and relaxation as my pain relief), - I guess the stories give me a more realistic view but it does dampen my enthusiasm as it makes me feel the experience that I was enthusiastic for was just a stupid unrealistic dream - so I no longer have such a solid view in my head of how I think it will be and I can't get enthusiastic about uncertainty. I actually feel really sad typing this, because it was nice, and really liberating, to be looking forward to labour and I don't feel that I am any more sad. I think the threat of having to fight off induction soon is making me feel negative too.

Perhaps it is just a hormonal thing and this is just a bad day. I'm really fed up with the physical discomforts of late pregnancy, the difficulty moving around in bed, the inability to bend over or sit comfortably, the heartburn if I dare to eat a normal sized portion of food, the discomfort of the baby moving around as it is running out of room - all these things are putting a real dampener on these last few weeks, and I know that is very self indulgent of me because compared to most people at this stage I am actually having it really easy and have very little to complain about. There's just not much to distract me from it at the moment. DH works shift, 5 days off, 5 days on, and I'm pretty lonely at the moment when he's at work, but equally too lazy to actually get off my butt and do anything. Today is his last day in this set of shifts so I'll have him around for the next 5 days and I'm sure they'll fly by and I'll feel more positive.

Wow, that was a bit of an epic post. Guess the answer to your question was quite complex confused. I'm not scared of the baby (although I do know what you mean), but I am scared of not doing myself proud and feeling like I let myself down by not being strong enough to have the birth I want, and the more time goes by, the less confidence I have in myself in that respect sad.

weezl74 Sun 14-Oct-12 16:44:33

YompingJo, that's a really insightful post. I really like and relate to this phrase 'I can't get enthusiastic about uncertainty'.

Can I ask why using other coping methods than the ones you mentioned would make you feel less good about the experience of labour? Please feel free to ignore if you'd rather not say smile

We spent the morning in the assessment unit as the baby hadn't moved for 14 hrs, where usually he somersaults like mad. He's fine though, so that's good. I was frightened, but mostly because of my 2 older sons.

Orenishii Sun 14-Oct-12 16:46:07

Yomping I coud have written your post word for word. Swap out the rockclimbing/mountaineering for running around the forest, parkour, climbing trees, martial arts, open water swimming challenges - and I'm 100% identical to you. I was so into this idea of seeing what my body could do - so into this getting down with the primal thing of childbirth. DH and I are really into primal movement, we eat a paleo diet, we're barefoot runners, everything we do is about getting back to our primal selves...what on earth could possibly be more primal than surrendering your body to the transition your body makes during childbirth?

But now...like you, maybe I've read too much and I'm really doubting my ability and my choices. I also opted for a hypnobirth in the pool at home - for my first! I had so much trust in my body just doing its thing but now I've read too much, realised anything can and will happen and it just makes me doubt myself. I know hypnobirthing really just means we could give birth on the high street and it doesn't matter - what matters is the head space. But your last paragraph is exactly where I am right now. Maybe it's just last minute jitters. I still have faith that in that moment, when it's all happening - regardless of what happens - there'll be some inner-ness that pulls through. But my previous resolve is going. I was downright excited to give birth - and not just to see my baby but to also just get an animalistic, and now a very modern, very unwanted Orenishii is taking over and I don't like it smile

Orenishii Sun 14-Oct-12 16:49:38

weezl hope you're OK, that must have been very stressful! Glad to hear the baby is OK.

seabuckthorn Sun 14-Oct-12 16:49:43

Yomping, I can relate to how you are feeling. With my first I feel similar in terms of the physical challenge and new experience.
I can also relate in all 3 of pregnancies to the last few weeks uncomfort, I seem to be generally annoyed a lot of the time. Everything is an effort and my brain is suddenly refusing to function. I no longer can make even simple blinking decisions!
Hormones play a big part and having a shifted due date must be so annoying.
Your OH is off for the week so hopefully that will help you will feel more perky, fingers crossed!
In the mean time please pass the gaviscon.
I'm not sure I've helped in any way but you are not alone!

P.s piles, oh my word help me!

goldengirl71 Sun 14-Oct-12 17:00:24

Yomping, labour will be unlike any other extreme challenge you have undertaken, ever. That's not to say it will be the stuff of nightmares, but your body will have to endure an experience it's never known before. If you were told you were about to climb a mountain or a cliff face more challenging than you had ever known, could you be persuaded to alter your perception of the equipment you may need? Try to look at labour like this. You may well have to accept all kinds of help and equipment to get you through but that just means your mountain was extra specially hard. I think you'll do a marvellous job.

weezl74 Sun 14-Oct-12 17:06:10

Great analogy goldengirl.

I also was going to say that I don't know anyone who doesn't feel like a goddess after doing labour, no matter what extra help they needed. (if they did) I hope that is in someway reassuring.

Orenishii Sun 14-Oct-12 17:33:37

Goldengirl that is a great analogy and weezl, that is very reassuring!

I guess for me personally it's more the mental aspect? When I think about what's required mentally to jump off high things, crawl along narrow things, get in the ring...I suppose I always kind of equated it with the mental aspect of childbirth - not being afraid, trusting your body etc. I don't feel like it's anything to be disappointed about if intervention is needed...but I also want that actively looking forward to giving birth to come back too.

Hahaha I think there is a massive amount of anticipation, over-thinking and worry going on that will dissipate during the birth because I suspect our minds might be on other things smile

weezl74 Sun 14-Oct-12 17:51:25

Overthinking? That's me in a nutshell Orenishii ;)

Possibly a tad too over deep for a sunday afternoon, but one idea which helped me slightly after DS1 and DS2 (both of which very straightforward homebirths BTW) when hearing the vast range of women's experiences of what they had needed in labour in order to cope, was to hang on to the idea that labour isn't just one fixed thing.

It's not like woman A and woman B have the same labour, and woman A soldiers on with a hotwaterbottle, whilst woman B turns into a jelly and demands an epidural with no reason. (which I think is what women end up feeling when they feel a failure, 'why couldn't I manage without xxx, like susan up the road did?')

One key component of this, for me, is time. I used an impressive 9 cannisters of entonox in labour with DS1 and barely 1 with DS2. Had I acquired an amazonian resiliance in the interrim? Nope, DS2 took 1/6th the length of time to emerge of his brother grin

Also factors like how the baby is positioned, how full your bladder/bowel are etc etc all of which make it really different for every woman.

So I think in a nutshell I think that we will all do our very best with what happens at the time, and reach out for whatever resources we need to get us there.

Sorry if that all sounds a bit pontificate-y, it's probably the hormones! ;)

mummy2benji Sun 14-Oct-12 18:01:07

I was terrified about labour with ds - because it was fear of the unknown, and because I'd worked in obstetrics and seen a skewed proportion of complicated deliveries rather than straightforward labours like the majority are. My actual experience of labour was really positive though - despite having an epidural in the end, at no point did it feel unmanageable or did I start to worry that I wouldn't be able to get him out. The decision to have an epidural was a reasoned one because I was getting very tired and didn't know how long the labour would go on for. I had to push for 2 hours but it didn't feel anywhere near that long - thank goodness! Guess I must have been off in my own little zone. I think staying calm and not panicking is the key to a good labour - I know there are other factors, such as baby size and lie etc - but trying to stay relaxed helps your body to relax and do what it needs to do to get baby delivered. It sounds daft, but I was pleasantly surprised how my body just got on with it! There is so much talk about what to do during labour, how to breathe, what position to be in, but at the end of the day your body knows instinctively how to deliver a baby and will simply get on and do it! You have to join in at the end with some highly unglamorous pushing, but trusting in your body and letting it get on with it is the most helpful thing you can do! Hope that doesn't sound patronising