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empty sac @ 8 weeks

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mummyscrummy · 02/07/2010 16:17

Hi, one of my closest friends had a early scan today but it showed an empty sac, had bloods taken and hgc lebels are 54000. Midwife said its either another MC (she has 1 previous MMC @ 12 weeks), or baby is too small to see, the scan showed sac size was at 7 weeks? She has to go bak on tuesday for another blood test and internal and external scan. this is a very longed for baby so she is holding onto the hope of baby just being small. Has anyone been thruogh similar and what was the outcome please? sorry for lond post but just feel so helpless for her! Thank you! x

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ilovespinach · 02/07/2010 16:50

Hi mummyscrummy,

You are a good friend for wanting to help during this difficult time.

I am going through this at the moment and I'm afraid the outcome is not good for me. In my case though, I had bleeding from very early on which has got worse. Going by LMP I should be 9 weeks but there is just an empty sac measuring 5 weeks. I will either miscarry naturally over the weekend or have to go into hospital next week.

If your friend is not bleeding though it could just be the case that the dates are out and the baby is not yet visible. I also had a loss of all pregnancy symptoms with the bleeding. If your friend still feels sick, tired, needs to wee often etc then I would take that as a positive sign.

I hope that everything goes well for her.

spinach x

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mummyscrummy · 02/07/2010 16:59

thanks spinach and im sorry that your outcome is not good.
My friend says she still feels pregnant and has even been off work all week feeling sick and really tired. Also she has had no bleeding. I was thinking that her dates could be a little out as she was taking tests all the time before she was due even!
I have no personal experience of this but hate seeing her so upset and not knowing what to do or say.
Thanks again spinach and i hope everything for you goes as smoothly as possible, big hug x

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LondonL · 02/07/2010 20:12

So sorry to hear about your friend. Unfortunately I fear the news may not be good when she goes back for the next scan, but there's always hope.
I had a missed miscarriage and the scan I had done at 11 weeks showed an almost empty sac, even though it was measuring 11 weeks. My body just hadn't realized the embryo was dead. It kept acting like the pregnancy was progressing. I had full symptoms, too. In my 11th week I got very faint spotting and cramping, so that's why I went in for a scan. No explanations why it happens, either. I hope this is not the case for your friend, but it sure sounds familiar.

In any event, the next scan should give her a lot of answers. good luck!

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tanmu82 · 02/07/2010 21:06

I have no experience of this, just wanted to wish your friend the best x

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innerstrength · 02/07/2010 21:11

Prognosis not good I'm afraid. Has happened to me a few times. If she is quite sure of her dates (ie sure that she should be 8 weeks), then I'm afraid it is pretty conclusive that she has miscarried, as visible baby with heartbeat should be very obvious by 8 weeks at a scan.

Very sorry . She will need lots of tlc. It is heartbreaking. So sorry for you too spinach.

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rainbowdays · 02/07/2010 21:19

Hi, sorry to hear your friend is going through this. I have stories both ways of being 7+ weeks and seeing nothing. I had one where the sac was empty and was told like your friend that I had either got my dates wrong, or would m/c. I knew my dates precisely so knew I was not wrong with dates and spent a horrible 11 days before going back for a scan where, the baby was fine heart beating and exactly right size for dates. I have since found out that I have a tilted uterus (common apparently) and that my early scans can be about 2 weeks behind.

However, I have also had m/c where I have measured behind on dates, and subesquently m/c'd. I can definitely say that symptoms are not an indicator that a pregnancy is going well and lack of them do not indicate pregnancy failure either.

So simply it is not possible to say either way, but any support you can give to help your friend get through the next couple of weeks will be important. I am surprised they are bringing her back so soon for another scan, it is usual to leave it a week at least.

If you want to read a website with encouraging stories of babies being "found" late on, then the misdiagnosed miscarriage website is good, but be wary of giving false hope.

I truely hope that your friend is one of those who goes on to get good news this time.

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mummyscrummy · 02/07/2010 21:22

hi, thanks to you all for your replies.
My friend knows she is clutching at straws and is prepared for the worst but still has a little hope after reading all the positive outcomes on the net. The nurse has phoned her and said she is 90% sure she is miscarrying so it doesnt look good
And again thank you so much for taking the time to reply, will keep you updated x